Symphogear XV

I actually quite liked it, it did a lot for Tsubasa’s arc, and it made Maria useful too. I’m particularly enjoying Maria’s dual wielding. Makes her more unique cuz no one really dual wields like that outside of certain attacks. There’s also the hype factor of Tsubasa not only fighting Fudou, but holding her own against him.

LISTEN TO MY SONG was the only good bit.

Genjuuro getting assblasted in his only fight was lame.
Topdad provided nothing to the episode
I thought it went really quickly, and Tsubasa's emotional development was stunted

Maybe I'm the one who sucks, and should watch it again, but my initial impressions weren't great.

I do agree that this was probably only the 3th or 4th best final episode this season, I look forward to seeing how the remaining 4 final episodes will play out though and adjust my rating accordingly

XV has been shitting out trash episodes for like a month now.

Honestly, all these people that took this long to realise XV is fucking trash, really do deserve XV.

>the fanbase is entirely supporting of every single character being lesbian
Even Genjuro?

>Solved Tsubasas problem in like 30 seconds
>Kill her "dad" to give her a reason to fight
>Tsubasas Amalgam is just her with a fire sword
>Don't kill him or you will be just like him
>Fakeout death for Noble red
>Topdad may not have been an asshole but provided nothing yet hibiki still actls like he said some sort of advice to her that makes her forget that her soulmate may be gone forever.

It didn't quite use up the potential it had, but it wasn't terrible by any stretch.

Well Genjuro was understandable in that he’s far too moral to go all out against his father, no matter how bad a person Fudou is. He almost went in for the kill and stopped himself, which Fudou took full advantage of.
Nothing good comes from Topdad so you should’ve expected that
And Symphogear does have a tendency to be fast-paced, but I don’t oersonally think that’s a problem so that just comes down to taste.

brotherly love is like the second most popular fujoshi setting, and baras are known for taking it up the ass.

Fucking retard XV has been amazing so far. 6 and 9 are the only weak episodes until now. And weak doesn't mean they were bad they just didn't manage to deliver on the hype of the previous episodes.

It was by far my favorite episode of the season and one of my favorites of the series.

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Yes, Kamiku killing NR manage to somewhat save it.

How did Maria survive Fudou's punch while being ungeared?

>Genjuuro getting assblasted in his only fight was lame.
He actually had the upper hand until he hesitated because it was his father, something that even Fudou himself said.
>Topdad provided nothing to the episode
His bit at the end was actually nice, with the whole thing about what's a curse for some is a blessing for others. You'll see it get brought back in regards to the curse of Balal
>I thought it went really quickly
That's every geah episode though
>and Tsubasa's emotional development was stunted
She finally had some sense slapped into her though, it felt like decent development for me.
And then there were the action parts too as well as Shem-Ha being intimidating.

She's a big girl.

bellyfat absorbed the punch

4u

None, Noble Dead got smited.

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snork genes, they're agile.

Wings and Tail eat Bat and Dog turning into full monsters.

Shem Miku will resurrect them as minions and they will make a moon bridge for Hibiki.

>XV has been amazing

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>replying to the usual contrarian

with regard to Tsubasa, maybe it'll be better in retrospect next episode, after she has time to process everything. She had a lot thrown at her in 20 minutes and it is understandable that she's a complete mess right now, emotionally.

>3th
Oyo?

Thirth

>Acts calm around the gears
>Instantly "kills" jobbers

Shem-ha has like 2 minutes of screentime and she is already one of my favorites.

>So, anyone else think this was a really weak episode?

Pic related was my reaction after finishing this episode.
It felt like 3 episodes worth of material smashed into 1.

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So why didn't they send Chris? She just turned 18

lol get shit on

She's mentally 12

>She finally had some sense slapped into her though, it felt like decent development for me.

It's easy to forget that this isn't just about Tsubasa in XV. Even after becoming wings she was always defining herself as needing to protect others but never really gave thought as to why beyond it being her "purpose" and as a way to seem stronger than she really was as a means of self defense. It was really nice to finally get her a chance to break down.

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Shem-ha's suit looks too nice to be a Faust Robe, every other one looks like a total mess

There's a minimum height requirement for joining the assault squad.

Where is the other version?

Maria, I am metanoia now! Thank you.

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what with how short she is, the adults keep mistaking her for a kid.

How do you miss the point of Symphogear so hard you want them to die?

Watch the episode again and see how Vanessa reacts to her family being beamed. It's pretty fucking obvious that they can be fixed.

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The wing still worked on the arm even if it was hurt, I am guessing a full monster TF

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Chris is taller horizontally!

Its better then the Top Brass but I really liked Carol's and besides Shem Ha's dress leggings are garbage.

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Vanessa's response was stunned disbelief.

Or that this is a last minute addition after everyone hated the characters.

She isn't Kirika
>in b4 Kirika is even younger

why didn't they send out carol9, she's like 300 years old

strawpoll.me/18572440/r
>people actually like the mutt

Yes lets talk about the elephant in the room here. Although we got every plot point and event we were looking for the execution of them all was not very good. Tsubasa's entire arc for just this season being in a single episode was just plain bad and the earlier middle episodes of the season horrible pacing led to this. The biggest Issue is the fight between Tsubasa and Maria was way too fast and had none of the emotional impact that her fight with Chris had in G. The same goes for her fighting her bastard father coupled with some low quality animation left much to be desired. Even if they did not want to spread the plot beyond a single episode, wasting about six minutes of your air time having TopDad talk about actually literally nothing was a poor choice regardless of your opinion on the character.
Nobel Red's deaths were well deserved and good shock value but I really don't see the reason that had to reenact the tragedy of S1 and not even allow Tsubasa and opportunity to confront the perpetrators. Also for an event as huge as Tsubasa's "father" actually being killed, not using a different song for the fight against Fudo was a big misstep. The new Alchemy power up also really doesn't fit with the theme of the Symphogears and should have stayed a one time thing like Hibiki's previous gold form which would eliminate these silly threats of the main characters being under house arrest.

Highlights were Nana's voice acting and getting to see Genjuro unleash even if he jobbed in the end. It always feels like they write Symphogear as if it has 24 episodes which causes most of these issues. Another postitive is there are no hang ups going into the end game so hopefully it's just cool action from here on out.

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Not everyone wearing a Faust Robe was Judeo-Christian God

>everyone hated the characters.
Imagine actually believing this.

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No shit. She was cute.

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This season needed to be 26 episodes long. I hope Fuodo isn't really "defeated" yet

Nobody would like Carol's design if she didn't have the hat.

No user your other personalities don't make up the majority of the fanbase

>Vanessa's only biological aspect is her head
She's gonna jury rig what's left of the bodies together and fulfill the Frankenstein motif.

>Nobel Red's deaths were well deserved and good shock
>Tries to make a serious analysis of the plot and saying something fit or doesn't fir the theme of Geah
>Thinks Noble Red dying there without a last word would fit the theme of Geah
>Even though every villain death before it was never this edgy
Impressive

Tsubasa's drama in XV was pretty bad. I had such high hopes after episode 2, but they fucked up.

Imagine not liking this innocent creature

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I liked Tsubasa not getting to confront Noble Dead. They'll probably run across their bodies when they check out the lab but I like that there are many things happening and sometimes both us as the audience and Tsubasa as a character don't get what we want or expect.

Doesn't HQ pick up their signal when they transform? When I read some doujins now, I imagine the other geahs crashing the scene, thinking it's an emergency and video kicks in at the sub. I need this to be a thing now.

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I don't necessarily mind Genjuuro losing to Fudou. That's appropriate. What's not appropriate is that Genjuuro's first real fight since S1 -- since 2012! -- was one he was destined to lose. He deserved to have a good winning fight.

Tsubasa vs Maria should have lasted longer, involved a touch more dialogue, and could have been much more emotionally engaging.

Just drop every single second of Topdad, show Bikki in the hospital for 5 seconds or something, and you save around 5 minutes to accomplish both of the above.

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Hafus aren't real people

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>The biggest Issue is the fight between Tsubasa and Maria was way too fast and had none of the emotional impact that her fight with Chris had in G.

I don't know if you remember G to well but that fight happened really fast too, and it also was broken up half way so it could sandwich Kiri v Shirabe only to be resolved in a flash back. The senpai stuff was nice but Maria flat out calling Tsubasa on the bullshit Fudoh was feeding her was also just as meaningful.

I thought those harp wings were fucking bitching the purple is some sleek shit, the covered tummy to contrast with Hibiki's bare midriff, the miniskirt, and those fucking shoulder-pads.

I unironically think Carol had one of the stronger designs in Symphogear.

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>Dad dies
>Tsubasa clearly very very hurt by this
>LOL COOL TRANSFORMATION SEQUENCE

Way to ruin a potentional sad moment.

It was really good. My only gripe is not getting to listen to Miku song, so only 10/10.

Not much they can do with the limitation of packing so many things in an episode.

So what the hell's gonna happen next?

>not even allow Tsubasa and opportunity to confront the perpetrators
She did. She beat Fudo, who was the one who told the vampire to wreck her show.

Anyone that is older than 9 years old please raise your hand if you actually think Noble red is dead.

Say what you want about Genjuro, he had the upper hand before he hesitated, and even after getting supplexed he got up and saved Fudou's life and Tsubasa's sanity. Honor saved.

He's done, both physically and politically. All he can hope for now is to escape and pull a Ver entrance but he doesn't have the charisma with the fans to manage that.

Is that really your main issue with Noble Red? For real?

See I was thinking about that too. Instead of having Tsubasas either forgive or execute them now she has to actually think about it.

Will Maria comfort Tsubasa as she's grieving for her brotherfather best week ?

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Why are the people who try to analyse Geah on its deepest always the dumbest ones?

Anyone that is older than 9 and loves cock please raise your hand.

Carol and the Autoscorers were peak Symphogear villain design

All of my complaints aside, this bit was awesome.

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Hibiki arrives and tries to stop Satan. Satan kills Fudo before fucking off to the moon. Noble red gets saved so they can die later. Episode ends with them flying to the moon.

>actually wanting to see Tsubasa moping around for ages instead of realizing it's time to teach Fudo the power of her song

>Chris always has 1 scene in every season that proves why she is the best girl.

True or False?

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I thought it was done very well. Tsubasa's character is transformed by her dad's dying words.

Will we get any Kanade or Maria mentions before the season ends?

The poor sword was pulled in three different directions this episode and was emotionally ripped apart. Her very sense of self was put under fire. That's impactful and meaningful. I just think it all went by too quickly. Maybe it'll look better in retrospect after another episode or two.

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At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Tsubasa accidentally killed Genjurou just to add more angst

Yes anything revolving around Tsubasa's family arc is fucking retarded and this is a show where half the characters spin around like beyblades

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Of course

I don't know how well the main anime will focus on it, but I suspect the others will give her some amount of care. I bet the shinnais will have a lot to say about it.

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I just saw the episode and the scales were "small" but very emotional and personal and holy shit Maria did good finally, Maria bros your girl did it and I am sorry for all the shit.
Moon cliffhangers, anybody willing to knock me out until saturday?

We have a bingo too right?

>day face
I feel bad. She really looks broken.

So only Hibiki and Tsubasa have a golden Amalgam form? Now I want the other 4 girls to get one.

Maria's probably going to be triggered by something to do with Serena and her Gear. Chris is going to be an asspull out of nowhere, and the babies are probably not going to get one huh>?

no they're balls now

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No Noble Read should have been gone by episode 6 I'm just talking about this episode.

>no argument
>shoving 20 plot lines in a single episode is good
>sonic spinball Tsubasa didn't look like shit

Almost no Hibiki = Great episode. The Tsubasa side of the episode was good, just wished Genjuro had put a better fight but he was holding back.

It's so damn hard being Hibiki's friend. If you're not being kidnapped, you're spending half of the time around her dodging noise that show up when the seasonal jobber randomly decides to walk down the street in broad daylight. No wonder the other 3 classmates have only shown up in one frame this entire season. I guess that's just the power of Bikki Dikki.

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Fine next episode

>Solved Tsubasas problem in like 30 seconds
It was fast, but at least she got substantial development out of it, and Maria doing it made sense.
>Kill her "dad" to give her a reason to fight
Nothing wrong with it. Brodad dying was a gutpunch.
>Tsubasas Amalgam is just her with a fire sword
It fought for 10 seconds.
>Don't kill him or you will be just like him
That's not what Genjuro said. He just didn't want Tsubasa to be broken, which she'd have.
>Fakeout death for Noble red
We'll see where this leads.
>Topdad may not have been an asshole but provided nothing yet hibiki still actls like he said some sort of advice to her that makes her forget that her soulmate may be gone forever.
Topdad gave actual pep talk on top of the heiki heicchara, making it work. It doesn't solve Hibiki's problems, but it lets her see them from another perspective and channel all her strength into solving them. Getting close to her father again also helps. Topdad was based and did exactly what needed (and could) be done.

They were so much better than the Top Brass and Noble Red its not funny.

>Ghost Kanade isn't in this frame
ONE
JOB

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no way. Genjuro getting his ass handed to him lets Fudo be a good threat. Too bad Fudo is finished too fast. he needed to become the monster.

Everyone does, but Fudo's bullshit intervention stopped them from using it earlier. Now that the restriction is lifted everyone is is going to spam theirs.

shirabe will get one when she fuses with fine during her return

Tsubasa isn't completely insane like Hibiki

This episode was QUALITY as fuck outside Fudo vs Gen. Clearly they new they were fucked with this plot and started working on the Miku episodes.

What even is the point of symphogear for you? What are its themes? For fuck sake, you spent what? Five years watching something and still can't get its 101

Chris and DMJii will happen together because they are irrelevant to the plot.

G had them beat however.

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>can hold out against Tsubasa on his own
>not already a monster

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gotta slash fast

Its coming

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I'm sure Fudo didn't suddenly become gigantic. So I'm guessing Fudo swung a little too low and Maria's ass was able to absorb most of the impact of the punch.

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What makes it better is that he didn't lose because of power but because he had moral standards, and that on top of it he got up and done more shit before the end of the episode. It'll be perfect if he actually wrecks some shit in the 4 remaining episodes.
Topdad was good.

what the fuck is even a faust robe anyway

Fudo should have killed Genjuro.

>Elsa gets devoured by her weapon and becomes an actual wolf
>After redemption literally becomes DMJii's pet.

Dess and Jii are gonna do their duet while in Amalgam mode

This episode feels like it could have been 2 like in G, this season really needed 2 more episodes to spread out some things a bit more.
Watching geah weekly never gets easier and fuck we have only 4 more to go.

>noble red fakeout

Noble red literally got lazered to death. The only one I can see coming back is Vanessa because she's the leader like Saint Germain and will have a final talk with Biki while she's dying and gives her the special not-before-mentioned way to defeat Shem Ha before she dies.

>AHHH EVERYTHING SUCKS AHHH

They were saving the rest of the budged for all the Shem-ha stuff. We are almost at the finale we all knew the Tsubasa stuff needed to get resolved but be honest here after hype as fuck episodes like carol and shem-ha who the fuck still gave a fuck about tsubasa having the same issue for the 100th time? Atleast fudo was based.

You could make a case that Vanessa's still alive, since she's a robot, but Millarc and Elsa are definitely dead. They got cleaved in half from their waist.

Although I want them to bring Millarc back so that she can confront Tsubasa on a 1v1. I wonder how it'll play out, without the vampiric suggestion making Tsubasaa go ape.

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Not in S3

I hate Topdad but his interaction with Hibiki is necessary, at least to make Hibiki brave enough to face Shem-ha.

This.
Is Maria's ass big and fluffy enough to absorb a direct hit? I need some proof to your claims.

DMJii's amalgam is going to be them literally having gay sex with gears on, on screen, while singing a duet.

Don't ruin this for me.

Are you an ESL or something? Theme as in how the new power ups look not the theme of the show. These oversized weapons have been lame and they clearly don't have a grasp on animating them well. Each appearance of it has had some of the worst animation of the season which is worrisome considering they need it to fight Miku. If you actually remembered the Symphogears have a near infinite pool of still unlocked potential but they forgot everything Fine said after Alchemy started invading every aspect of the show.

I can't believe I actually liked a Topdad episode.
>cooks (instant ramen) for Bikki instead of begging her to buy things as a small way to show development
>tells her to say what's bugging her, quickly admits that he's fucking useless for giving advice
>then reminds her that what's a curse for some is actually a blessing for others, something that will most likely be plot-relevant soon
He's as useless as ever and nothing about him was redeemed, but this episode didn't make me hate him at all. That's a lot of character improvement.

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Dess and Finejii*

user, did you miss the last 4 seasons of Symphogear? No important character dies without a monologue, I know it made your peepee hard, but at the moment Noble Red's ''death'' goes against the integrity of the show's themes and against the rules of its style.

Feelsbadman that kanazari senior had a go at her from behind before tsubasa did

Yeah sure they are just gonna kill noble red in some random tsubasa episode background scene. You know what if they do atleast it would be easy to declare this as the worst episode in XV.

Patterns aren't themes though

Now only Fine and Ver need to come back.

The real question is who are the gears going to fight? No way they will 1v6 Miku or bench all the gears just for Hibiki.

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Crunchy was a mistake.

This
Say what you will but XV made me love GX more, yes its still the weakest season but when you rewatch it now its much better than when we did it weekly.

>rifle butting Phariah
>not cute

>Power is literally to alter their bodies
>Think they won't asspull (literally on Elsa's case) a way to come back

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Geahs 1v6 Miku and her tentacles

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My wife Hibiki was super cute in this episode and I actually liked Topdad aswell. Thanks bullshit Tsubasa drama for ruining the rest of it though.

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That was Liuer

>It always feels like they write Symphogear as if it has 24 episodes which causes most of these issues.

This is what I feel the most as well. The interactions between the characters are condensed as much as possible and they always end up wasting time with side stuff that would make sense if they had more episodes to develop it better but in the 13 episode schedule just take up precious time. Like what was the purpose of Noble Red's development, their backstory and teamwork and whatever? They just fucking died, because they're bad guys, because that's what badguys do. It's entirely pointless to waste precious minutes on them, yet it happens anyway.

Sorry but episode 4 still exists.

All villains acted in the way they did for a reason, Geah never played a villain death for cool points.

He did everything that was in his power. Sure he's a mess of a person, but he tries. Him finding something to say to his daughter and motivate her showed that he genuinely cared, and this was enough to help Hibiki, a lot.

Top dad was unironically top today.

They could still be alive enough when they rush the bunker so who knows if the monsters make it or not.

I want to rape you to death.

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Shh user, let them believe what they wish to believe.

Shem-ha is the God, while the five of them getting beaten up because muh god power the last standing one will be Hibiki the godslayer and it will become 1v1 fight.

This fucking shot, kek.

He can still come in to help Tsubasa beat the shit out of Vampire when she comes back as a complete monster.

I'm going to be in agreement with Tsubasa's character arc in this season being absolute shit.

>sees 70k people die and a little girl killed by some vampire
>loses all resolve when her character songs have always been about being stoic, carrying the burdens of being a protector, muh swords
>blames music and her geah for what happened when if she didn't have them in the first place the entire world would have been destroyed multiple times
>all of this is the catalyst for the mind rape working
>said mind rape is easily broken by a slap from the most useless character in the series and a shitty pep talk
>trigger for her determination to fight again is her worthless father getting shot; a character who's relationship was established in GX in one shitty episode and the two never spoke again until this episode
>MUH DAD MUH DAD MUH DAD

Honestly the entire writing for this season has been crap. I'm sick of seeing another Hibiki feels like she's losing Miku again development when we had that in seasons 1 and 2. Noble Red's concept was cool at the start and they've been completely butchered in their attempts at being the sympathetic weak villains.

I've still enjoyed the show for all the fanservice moments like Hanasaku Yuuki duet, Autscorers returning, Carol, and Genjuurou fighting. But the writing has been complete dog shit.

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Their personalities are more fun too. Cagliostro is a poor man's Micha.

All that happy Bikki gave me diabetes too.

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>mfw they die and stay dead and literally noone cares

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But that is a one episode to two episode deal at best, there are four to go and you can't have shit like DMJii amalgam duet against Shem-ra

>He might be your daddy
>But he wasn't your papa

>muh writing
sausage

>I AM SHEM-HA THE ONE MAN WORSHIPED AS GOD
>Get's stopped by some mcguffin on her back
>NUHU I AM SERIOUS HERE SEE?!!? *lazers the biggest jobbers in the entire franchise which 100% aren't even dead*

Stop trying so hard Shem-ha you are still my god.

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Japan has been complaining.

Funny the Hanasaku Yuuki duet is so popular cause that's exactly where the season tanked writing wise.

t. retard trying to sound smart when he's barely scratching surface level shit

Shem - Ha will fight all 6
then they'll job until Fine Returns and has some dialogue with Shem-ha then fights a bit until bikki is ready to do the final blow and save miku

Before the episode aired vampfags were bragging about how Millarc was going to get a "redemption arc" and get excused for killing ~70k. I wish I could of seen their reactions live. There's at least 1 vamp fag out there who flipped out and cried when Noble Red turned into Noble Dead.

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>I'm going to agree with my other posts
Ok

The speed is its charm and its problem, the show was great in S1 and G with the tempo but now its just going too fast to fit anything.
G had 2 episodes for Jii vs Dess on top of how many more scenes in between and this gets 30sec but G had 6 girls to deal with this time they have 6 geahs, 3 monsters, miku, kyaroru and anybody from the cast who needs a scene or two so yeah XV being 24eps would help a lot.

He did shitty things but isnt evil and i like how XV deals with it.

>small brains assblasted when an user calls out trash

All those pictures and you missed the best ones where she's just standing around with her fangs poking out of her closed mouth

They're dead, Jim

The bullshit limitations are gone, whatever's left to fight in the moon will be pretty much fought constantly in Amalgam mode.

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Yeah, from the way they treated him in this episode, I think the show is aware of how much of an asshole they made him in GX.

>biggest jobbers in the entire franchise
That's the Autoscorers. It's literally their job.

I recognize you.
>I'm sick of seeing another Hibiki feels like she's losing Miku again development
Except it's actually a pretty realistic fear when your friend's body becomes inhabited by some bitchy god.

The writing is fine. The pacing is a bit too fast for the amount of things they want to do. I think they wasted too much time trying to have throwbacks like devoting 2 episodes to Carol.

wtf is going to happen now that fudo and tsubasa got one-and-doned

Limiters are always a mistake.
I'd post an MSLN Strikers pic but don't want to summon the autist.

>100% aren't even dead
Vampfags being this delusional. Your redemption arc was literally stolen by top dad, of all fucking people.

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Don't forget to post a wojak dude

>I don't necessarily mind Genjuuro losing to Fudou. That's appropriate. What's not appropriate is that Genjuuro's first real fight since S1 -- since 2012! -- was one he was destined to lose. He deserved to have a good winning fight.

Quite a few people were expecting Genjuro to fight against Fudo and job. So it's an expected outcome.

>He did shitty things
He absolutely did, in the past, but nowadays he's doing pretty alright.

You're not calling out trash though, you're making shallow points that don't even start to consider the big pictures just in order to match the patterns that you've heard are "good writing". Tsubasa's arc being solved fast is true, the parrot tier criticism is dumb.

He could have not done it in an episode they were trying to fit 5 plot points when ultimately Hibiki did nothing anyway.

Miliarc and Elza are retards like Jii and Desu and don't need monologues

Only Vanessa needs a speech about her kazoku before dying

>The dolls are gone!
>The alchemists are gone!
>Jobber Red is gone!
You people never learn. If this was S1 you'd be asking for Chris' head and saying the noise she summoned killed countless. They are going to get redeemed and then die, like all the non geah users villains, end of story.

>when an user
he's doing it again

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>The only way to save Miku is to seal her away
PLEASE DO THIS!!!

This where the fuck is my Kanade throw back and First Love Song throwback. Fuck Carol and Fuck all GXfags.

Just check twitter.

My pet theory is that he get's "accidently" cleansed by SSJ and becomes a container for the divine power, cue final boss.

But we've seen that happen 3 seasons ago, so it's BAD WRITING user don't you get it? :^)

Don't shitpost with the happiest girl in the world.

>Bikki finally summons her armed geah
>it's a golden Gungnir
>the last frame of the franchise is Bikki penetrating Miku with her spear

it's all as it should be...

Person who loves Noble Red here. I'm perfectly aware that they're completely fucking dead, as much as it saddens me. A miracle bringing them back would be nice, but they're out of blood so it wouldn't make sense unless ketchup actually gives them a hidden resurrection power.

What would you prefer
>Synchrogazer plus maybe S1 songs in the last episode
>A full on ten minute long medley like youtube.com/watch?v=Cdrb9tpTcuw

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Dolls were absolutely gone until XV though.

Hibiki is the only character that truly matters and thus deserves screentime. The rest exist to pave the way for her punching the bad guy in the face.

>The pacing is a bit too fast for the amount of things they want to do
This 1000x. The execution of important events is marred by having so many of them happen at the same time. Just look at all of the different things that were occurring in this episode simultaneously, it's like they want to get them out of the way so they can focus solely on the finale.

>the bigger picture
>they save Miku by showing her a light not even god knows

Wow...so deep...I wonder what will happen guys. Just reveal yourselves GXfags you had the same dogshit arguments during Tsubasa's trash episode in that season too.

What's there to complain about? People like jerking over sanjurmain and Bikki. They gave an upgraded gear boost with her as fanservice. It's much better than Ignite and how awful the plot centered around it in GX. Here it's just a power up.

You retards would swallow anything the show gives you at this point. Go eat semen faggots.

And? Since when in the world does one watch Symphogear for realism. The point is this character arc has been done multiple times over and it's cumbersome to watch again.

and even these ones where basically copies

If only they were standing next to a god in need of some jobbers to pad out 4 episodes and give her a lift to the moon on their magical 'exactly as long as needed to get to the moon' train.

I wonder if Elf9 has had the chance to explain to everyone how completely fucked their chances of getting Miku back in one piece are yet?

I chose to believe it's some retards like the vampfags here that are just loud, noone actually gives a shit about noble shit

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Person who hates Noble Red here, I can't tell how people really think they are gone if it breaks every single pattern this series has had so far. They will be fucking back, maybe as monsters or whatever, but they will actually finish the plot, this isn't some edgy post-madoka magical girl like Site, Genei or Raising Project.

Link 10 tweets.

The same god who immediately killed them and who can fly?

>While Tsubasa grieving over watching her dad dying in front of her Hibiki is having a good time with topdad

I just need the hear the first few seconds of Synchrogazer in any form to be fully erect.

power up like the other alchemist for the other symphos

>miiiiku
>uta ga aru
>datoshitemo!!!
>screams very loud
yawn there is your series finale same thing you've seen 4 times already

>he didn't actually go nude

>the bigger picture
>they save Miku by showing her a light not even god knows

Thanks for proving my point and show you can't start to see more than one element at a time, OR the final climax of the season.

GX was trash from start to finish. I struggle giving it even a 3/10. This episode was fucking good despite being slightly rushed.

You're a retard complaining about an appropriate and valid plot point that was hinted at 9 episodes ago because something vaguely similar happened during 15 minutes, 40 episodes ago.

What a strange world this is where people who hate something want it to come back while people who like something understand when it's gone

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You forgot
>mune no oto

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Please don't criticize this show in anyway guys. This is a circlejerk thread. Symphogear is the best anime ever. AOTY right guys? Everyone else is retard for not watching this show. lol normies

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No I thought it was really good.

He's so boring though outside of being either a desk enemy or part of Tsubasa's drama.

Its mostly reddit who seems to hate them, actual gear fans from the west and most of Japan knows Kaneko won't pander to edgefags after 7 years of begging for them to kill villains and present it as fun instead of sad to satisfy their twisted desires.

If she could fly to the moon on a faust robe the custodians wouldn't need the frontier. And she killed them because they were about to turn the mind control back on. If you have the ability to casually kill and raise the dead with your divine power it makes way more sense to get killing first instead of just telling them to knock that off and then 'fixing' them and telling them they work for her now. With sweet full monster upgrades now, and they'll be butthurt enough after all their miserable failures to accept it, at least until they get a little friendship fisting before they reexplode horribly.

>actually posts the wojaks
Why are you trying so hard to prove you're a retard again and again? We've already got it from your first post.

>Yea Forumsedditor
like clockwork

False flag shit eater posting Yea Forums shit. Your bait wont convince anyone this episode wasn't botched as fuck all around.

Yeah but that's why I watch this show.

>who can fly?
A jet can fly, a bird can fly. Neither can fly to the moon.

Fuck you.
Symphogear is the best show of the season, but it's still worthy of criticism. You can have both HYPE and sensible discussion of the merits and flaws of the show.

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Well, they being gone wouldn't change my opinion in anyway and if anything just make it worse with the lame death.

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>wojak
He actually did it, the absolute madman

What song is playing during Tsubasa and Maria's fight? Sounded new for a BGM and I didn't recognize it as an instrumental for any of the vocal tracks.

The problem is that NR were complete filler characters because the Geahs couldn't fight Fudo and Gods for 13 episodes. Thus they threw in some fleeing jobbers to stretch the plot until we get the juicy parts in the last episodes.

Even if Doggo and Vampire come back as monsters somehow, this part doesn't change.

>replying to yourself

Go back to the bandwagon retard.

All one person.

>So, anyone else think this was a really weak episode?

I feel the brainwashing Tsubasa thing was really lame in hindsight since she got snapped out of it by Maria's slap

If this was Tsubasa's own doing, it would have made Maria's slap have a lot more heft

I don't want them back but I just know they will be, Noble Red are such jobbers they won't even get the honor of being the first villains Symphogear has unceremoniously killed off.

>GXfags

I'll give you a hint. It's not a new ost.

Also, Maria is too much of a wuss to be Brightslapping anyone.

How is nobody commenting on Tsubasa slapping Maria's tits and ass? That was some serious foreplay, just how pent up is the sword?

Do jets and birds have sickass disco pants?

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You weren't actually supposed to post them
>lol normies
jesus

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>she got snapped out of it by Maria's slap
Yeah that was dumb

Miku Gear does not fucking need the same regurgitated character arc, nor does it being pointed out since AXZ make it any less of a recycled writing tool. You're a fucking retard.

They play every OP in regressive order in the last fight and end with synchrogazer

Are you the GXfag essay user? Your prose is pretty distinct, and repetitive, after you read a couple of posts.

I'm a GXfag myself and this season has unironically been my favorite season so far:
>Carol's back
>doll's are back
>Faust Robes are suddenly important
>Top Dad gets fucking redeemed!

Not going to excuse Kaneko's writing so far, especially with how rushed this episode was. 70k, Tsubasa's rampage earlier, and all that set up was solved in a two minute fight and a slap from Maria. Seriously?

Also, the geahs are suddenly tip toeing around red tape
>need permission to use Amalgram even though it was Fudo who put the ban in the first place and they've already confirmed, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Fudo was the big bad behind the shadows
>"Maria we need you to do this mission solo because we don't want our underaged staff to go. Oh, Chris? Yeah, she turned 18 but an 'adult' in Japan is 20 yo."
The Amalgram permission slips doesn't even make fucking sense. How the fuck does the bridge getting approval enable Tsubasa to use Amalgram? Couldn't of she just used it the entire time? That "underaged staff" shit came straight out of left field, too. Since when did being minors stop the geahs from performing their duties?

Personally, my tin foil hat theory of why the writing suddenly took a nose dive is that this season is an allegory for both Symphogear and Nana's life as an idol.

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A sword is meant to be sheathed, user.

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Nice try dumbass. Not everyone is blind about when they don't deliver in a way they should especially in the final season.

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The episode was great. A bit rushed, but for the number of HAPPENINGS it got, there was no way to do it better than this.

Depending on what happens next, it'll be good overall or not. If Fudou is taken out completely so fast, unless there's something better in store, this'll be botched.

It wasn't the slap you goon. It was Maria actually reaching and getting Tsubasa to admit that Fudoh's shit was retarded. The way the Seal worked was that it made Tsubasa very suggestible based on her mental state. Even when she was next to Fudoh she was already feeling like something was wrong. Maria reaching out and slapping her was just the push.

She has Dom legs, a Dom can't fly into space under it's own power either.

The difference between NR and other villains is that NR got wiped out all at once, all other villains were picked off one by one. They don't need a monologue because their STRONG BONDS caused them to all fucking die at the same time same place. THE END.

She needed to release a lot of sexual tension

They are DEAD, if they come back because Shem-ha revived them only means they'll get killed again or self sacrifice, plus if Shem-ha can bring back the dead means Ver is coming back, hell even Adam might

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LISTEN TO MY SSSSOOOONNNNNGGGG!!!!!

I am pretty sure no custodian in their right mind would ever revive the absolute failure that is Adam.

GX was my most hated season and I pointed it out being part of Tsubasa's shitty character arc. Try again.

Should have been 2 episodes for all of this
Give sword time to reflect, deal with Dess, give Maria vs sword a few more scenes, sword amalgam needs a few more too etc just so they have some time and so it doesn't seem like everything was solved in 30sec

they'll fight Fudo since genjuro has a concussion now and won't be able to fight for the hypothetical 4 upcoming seasons

No it wasn't retard is was literally just the slap which is why the whole betrayal arc fell flat on it's face. Tsubasa just pretended to be sonic while Maria said some shallow as fuck generic phrases really surprising considering the history the characters have at this point.

Cool inspect element bro.

What does this have to do with Mikugear? Why are you using this retard-tier meme instead of the actual arc being discussed, aka "Miku turns into a God and brings on the apocalypse or at least something huge"?

Miku putting on a dumbass weapon to shoot lasers at people doesn't matter in this, retard.

Except it doesn't? People in this series who don't die on-screen can never be trusted to be fully dead, but we've literally NEVER seen somebody get guro'd/carbonized on-screen and make it back. Actual blood = dead in every case so far.

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>I might be reading too much into this, but I think Tsubasa's character arc is an allegory for Nana coming to terms with the end of Symphogear and her (eventual) end as an idol.

My going theory is that Symphogear as a whole has always been a way for Nana to work through her emotions and demons, and frankly nobody even told her that this was an anime. It's always been a Nana documentary. And there is nothing wrong with that.

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>Ver hijacks Shem-Ha from afterlife and resurrects himself
>the Ai no Tame idea people have been mentioning actually refers to him

Of course they will fucking self-sacrifice.That I don't doubt.
But going from the meta narrative perspective, plus the needs of shit like the Gacha and the Zesshōshinai will make it so they will get the same noble death as any other villain. Otherwise all plot points with them in this season and in the zesshōshinai will just be painfully meaningless if the main series treated them like mooks.

What I really like about Symphogear is that it's never a 1v1 fight at the end.

It's always 6v1 to defeat the final boss.

Shem-miku will summon up some Noise for them to fight. Guaranteed.

>Actual blood = dead in every case so far.
Genjuro got run through in S1 by Fine and lived.

AXZ is the most hated season.

>these are the absolute retards calling other peoples arguments surface level

Kaneko being a fucking hack for half a decade now has nothing to do with some meta commentary on Nana's life.

Only by retards. It was still kind of close to GX, but did everything GX better.

>Otherwise all plot points with them in this season and in the zesshōshinai will just be painfully meaningless if the main series treated them like mooks.
You are literally the only idiot that cares about them

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The SSJ shins combined with that weird, overly long frilly dress ruins the design so much. Otherwise, it looks great.

Did Nana's audience get slaughtered twice? And is her grandpa actually her dad?

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Why the fuck do people still keep going "HUUUUH KANADE IN TSUBASA'S AMALGAM, SERENA IN MARIA'S AMALAGAM, etc..." when it's painfully clear that Standjerman was just Hibiki's imagination. If the two got a new song together I'd buy it more but it was just excuse to put out a studio version of the Hanasaku Yuuki duet from the AXZ concert.

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smiling Fudo is cute

We also have never seen a villain go down without some sort of redemption or last word. Not Fine, not Ver, not Carol, not Adam, even the dolls who died quickly still had a few last words.Its ironic, but if Noble Red had died slowly, I would fully believe the jobbers are gone.

I'm not that guy, your "arguments" are still retarded MAL-tier surface level """analysis""".

They will be redeemed

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Yes but that wasn't a "death" scene, he was seen alive before Finé even left the scene.

>I'm a sword
>I have a sword that turns into a bigger sword
>I also have a motorcycle that's also a sword
>oh, and my swords are wings!
>also, I'm an idol!
Feels ripped out of chuuni Nana's thoughts.

No new sword song, no Kanade, no Maria vs Tsubasa forehead flick, no grandaddy telling sword to "do it" like the emperor to force her into killing her friend.
Too much shit and not enough time.

Adam had a redemption? What was it? I don't remember it except him turning into Bahomet, and getting smashed with a giant fist drill.

>ends with Synchrogazer sung by everyone

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My theory is that Symphogear is real, and we're an anime

Th4e motorcycle has no swords on it, those are just her legswords.

The fact that he's the same kind of retard who keeps talking about "writing" and calling people "hacks" is the best proof there is of that.

I'm just glad they got rid of SSJ's bear trap looking helmet. That thing was an absolute travesty. SSJ Faust Robe makes Miku look like a dom queen.

Jojofags

As it stands, I'm 100% convinced Vanessa will come back (cyborg), probably have a conversation with the chunks of Millaarc and Elsa left before the two expire, then stick around until sacrificing herself during the last episode.

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What if we were the anime all along?

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>Tales of Berseria ending

>Adam had a redemption
Hibiki left a giant redemption in hist chest

Fuck you, Miku needs her bear trap

I mentioned redemption or last words
>anime ja nai was foreshadowing.

Because you're using the fact that they hinted at it to excuse the same Hibiki character arc this show has gotten countless times over when it easily could have been her donning "God's weapon" without the need it. None of what you say counteracts the fact that this is the third time
>oh no, I argued with Miku
>oh no, I'm about to lose Miku
>oh wait, my determination and love is going to win the day again
has been used.

Just admit you're a colossal semen guzzling faggot that would still defend literally everything about this show if in the 10th season the do the same shit again.

Shit taste desu

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Whens Ver Yea Forums? Isn't that why we are all here?

I will give Kaneko $77 for an animegeah.
Do you think he'll do it?

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That can't be. There wasn't even the part about how Tsubasa was molested by her producer so she got fat to try to make herself unattractive.

This so much the only plus is they got it all over with at once instead of doing it badly over 2 episodes.

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Ver has 2 eps to boogie, then Fine has 2 eps to boogie.

I hope Hibiki kills Miku or gets rid of her someway.

Every character had someone they cared about die, but moved on with their lives. Hibiki is the only one that hasn't. Miku dying is the only way this show can correct it's own ship.

I am preparing my body.

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I am 100% convinced the monster parts will take over the two, they will be fought as mooks for two episodes, with Vanessa going to song, before either they come to their senses and sacrifice themselves or Vanessa sacrifices herself to take one of them or both of them out and be cleansed of her sins.
Every villain with flashbacks in Symphogear has a moment where they realize the other side is right, Noble Red will have it like everyone else.

>Vanessa's still alive
>manages to cauterize Millarc and Elsa together
>Noble Dead -> Noble Red
We still on track for our redemption arc muh /familia/?

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>Too much shit and not enough time.

Isn't that basically just Symphogear in general? The series has suffered from being too big for 13 episodes since its inception, and from S1 to GX it also suffered from never knowing whether or not there would be another season.

Every human on earth gets a gear and zesshous. It's no Carol, but it could be good enough for something.

Moon ruins anyone? We're finally getting around to it. The ending is getting closer and closer and shit will go down soon.

Everything will be OKmori.

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I can easily see them spending a couple episodes dungeon crawling.

They announced S4 and S5 at the same concert so the fact that both seasons have really bad episodes is a massive failure.

This arc never happened, dumbass. An abridged, simplified version of it happened 40 episodes ago, and lasted 1.5 episodes. It involved "Miku died! She actually survived, gets kidnapped, forced into a brainwashing armor that makes her shoot lasers, we need to destroy that device to save her".

It's far from a big climax. If anything, it's a small subplot. What we're dealing with is entirely different and will involve very different plot thread and stakes. Mikugear was one random soldier, one more piece on the board. Shem-Ha is literally the alpha and the omega. It's the endgame.

Why would you want Noble Red to have no proper conclusion? Why don't you want them to face their mistakes before being offed? Damn edgyfags are dumb, they will take a worse story provided it has shock value.

Well yeah but s1 and G had less to deal with and XV is just too big for it's own good

Boisterous Dork.

This is what I've been waiting for since season 1. Everyone can cry about their waifus not being written like their notebooks full of fanfiction, I'm here for the ancient aliens.

How long till Tsubasa asks Maria to "take responsibility"

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Instead of blaming Yea Forums and reddit, does anyone actually want to defend Tsubasa in this season?

What constitutes a "Proper conclusion" because characters who do wicked things for power getting killed by that power is a pretty fitting ironic end"

She didn't kill 70,000 people, and that counts for something.

There really should have been a line like that for Tsubasa

They don't deserve to conclude anything.They willingly murdered people with full knowledge of what they were doing for ultimately selfish reasons. Did you even pay attention during the Car chase scene?

>does anyone want to actually take my bait? p-please??
Not really.

What conclusion is there? If they haven't faced their mistakes before I don't see why they would now. All they've ever cared about is getting muh real bodies, and they don't give a shit what they have to do to get it. It would be out of character for them to suddenly feel remorse.

Defend her from who? Retarded ass shit posters?

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The most amazing accomplishment of this season is them actually managing to fix topdad as a character

>Why don't you want them to face their mistakes
She was standing like ten feet in front of them lasering them in half, I'm not sure how you missed that.

Getting mindfucked into doing whatever your dad tells you to do and being mentally broken about it is a difficult thing to deal with

>I wonder if Elf9 has had the chance to explain
The answer is no, she is always too late when doing anything important.

Ignoring unironic wojak and frog posting is like ignoring a massive teratoma that's sprouting eyes and teeth. Look at the state of the site in general and tell me letting these vermin have an even bigger foothold on Yea Forums will lead to anything good.

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Are Akira and John the coolest symphogear characters?

No user, nobody wants to hear you repeat the same autistic shit for the 10th time.

They didn't fix shit he's still the same trash he always was and he should have just sent a text message or off screen call like earlier instead of wasting my fucking time.

Im actually surprised and glad they noticed the mind control shit right away.

Realizing they would have had humanity if they had lived as friends instead of being obsessed with human bodies. Having a moment to think about that before exploding to save the city or something.
>because characters who do wicked things for power getting killed by that power is a pretty fitting ironic end
When has Symphogear done this before?

He fixed everything. Based top dad.

Based John Wayne Vercingetorix

>BAAAAAAWWWWWWW TSUBASA HAS BEEN SHIT THIS SEASON

We heard this bait the first 77 times.

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>When has Symphogear done this before?
Adam...

>When has Symphogear done this before?

No reason it can't now. It's not a law.

Fine and Adam.

Also technically Fine, she made gears to further her space cannon plans and then gets flattened by things she considers toys because of too much PHONIC GAIN

If Noble red where ever going to find their humanity it would have been a long time ago.

I kinda hate that we still have almost no idea what Shem-ku's actual goals or motivations are. Does she want to blow up the moon like Fine? Just get everyone to worship her?

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Adam might be Baphomet but in the show he acted like a better person than Fine.

The key word here is "acted".

Also El Presidente and his Nazi pals.

>nothing can happen that hasn't happened before
dumb

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This is the first episode she really did anything and she spent most of it sleeping because of Fudo's mindhack backpack.

I see you are a man of taste as well.

Ah yes, I too remember when Fine just died without saying anything.
>No reason it can't now. It's not a law.
It fucks the themes of the show, it fucks previous interactions, it makes every moment humanizing them useless if you are just going to go full edge-dumb and 'kill people because they deserve it'. Which is why it won't happen, unless you retards believe the flashback swas to "create more shock value when they die"

I will post this every thread until they dock.

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He took up too much fucking screentime. And apparently Hibiki's mom is like chopped liver or something.

The fact that we got to see top dad talk for like five minutes and cut out Hibiki's running away and lines is just sad. XV has been cutting out actually seeing people devastated over and over and over again.

What the fuck is happening in this thread?

Seeing Elsa and Millaarc become full monsters would make Vanessa immediately realize they had humanity before.

Diehard fans coping. They can't handle the fact Symphogear is getting worse and worse with each season.

Come on, his dialogues showed he was a pretty chill guy. It's hilarious how he goes "STOP" whenever Bikki's around.

>Ah yes, I too remember when Fine just died without saying anything.
Just gonna slide those goalposts over like I wouldn't find out?

It's really ironic you regard people saying they didn't like the show's writing as the shitposts and samefags. Is no one literally not allowed to say a single bad thing about Symphogear?

>for the finale
>implying they won't be back by next episode

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>Ah yes, I too remember when Fine just died without saying anything.
I remember when St. Germain disintegrated a dictator and his pals and the best they got was 'Kimochiiiiiiiii~' as a final line. Did that fuck with your themes? The Americans have also been frequently bit while fucking around with shit they shouldn't. Your current point isn't 'they got no lines when they died' your current point is that nobody in symphogear has ever been bitten and died by power they created, which is not true many times over.

>They can't handle the fact Symphogear is getting worse and worse with each season.
But AXZ was better than GX and XV so far is better than AXZ.

>it's shit
>you're shit
truly it's disappointing it didn't get the extended rebuttal it deserved

Obsessed dumbasses trying to sound smart by saying dumb shit.

Accept her death user.

No he didn't he spent all his screen time laughing about what a dick he was. Fine at least cared about someone other than herself.

The same old. The fanbase screaming about how this is AOTY, some people call it shitty, arguments. Same people were defending GX when people started complaining.

>château is a philosophical weapon that can dissect the worldly from the divine
>was teased but not used in episode 8
Gee, I wonder how they're going to save Miku.

I'm not a diehard fan though and I'm loving the shit out of XV

You're allowed to say whatever you want, and people are allowed to call you a moron in response. Cut it out with the fucking persecution complex.

user, why hasn't Symphogear simply killed each and every single villain before in a cool scene with explosions and cheers? Why was Fine's death, Mom's death, Ver's death, Carol's Death, Saint-Germain's death, hell, even Adam's death, never played like it was awesome?
If you are going to mention one-episode characters you can as well mention all the S1 deaths.

The same autism as usual.

Clearly you forgot about AXZ.

>a dictator and his pals
These are like the extras who die every episode for no reason. Them dying is as different from actual antagonists dying as Yatsuhiro dying is compared to suits.

>AOTY
Ehh... Kimetsu already won that award.

Frankly, XV might become the best season depending on how strong the ending is. I have a few issues but the goods strongly overweight the bads especially now that we're more or less sure Noble Red will die, later if not now.

Well you see Hibiki is going to scream very loud, throw a punch and the day will be saved.

Just don't whine when they return in some form or another.

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Would you believe me if I told you I didn't write those posts, or are you just going to scream about only one person samefagging?

There was discussion some weeks ago about if Doggo and Vamps were like traditional Werewolves and Vampires, where unless you used the traditional killing methods, e.g. silver, stake through heart etc, they would recover no matter how much damage was done to them.
I guess we'll find out next week.

You're equally retarded either way.

He also said stuff like he had valid reasons to do what he did and asked people to stop messing around.

>say retarded stuff
>people call you retarded
Must be the hivemind!

2 fights/episode quota, because how else are you going to shill your new songs (most B-sides aren't even sung in the show), really puts a burden on the writing.

I appreciate the quieter moments, like this episode starting out and ending with Top Dad, but Symphogear is spinning too many plates!

Top Dad's scenes weren't also that bad. It looked like he's actually putting in some effort in order to get better.
>cooking for Hibiki instead of asking her to fork over the bill
>providing Hibiki a shoulder to lean on
>assuring Hibiki that she, and her friends, will be OK
Holy shit, was Top Dad just redeemed?

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>Would you believe me if I told you I didn't write those posts
i didn't accuse anyone of samefagging and i don't give a shit who you are

the point stands

Why does that matter? If you're going to jump into a conversation and defend a point then you might as well be the same guy, that's how anonymous forums work

Id sooner call this episode one long battle royal

>the same retarded whining about "writing" as always
>"why won't you take me seriously!!!!"
I wonder.

We haven't seen either of them do much in the way of regenerating before

>2 fights/episode quota
That's not even a thing
Did they even have a new song this episode?

If anything we've seen them struggle with lesser wounds

>The themes of the show are that everybody gets redemption and anything goes against that is wrong and never happened
>Unless it happened to bit characters because who actually gives a fuck about actually every human lol
If you think people can't go out while being assholes and stay dead then most of this series would like to have a word with you. I don't think they're dead either (well technically they are, like Tsubasa and Chris actually dying in S1) but mostly for narrative padding reasons and not for something dumb like 'nobody ever dies in symphogear because they fucked with something they shouldn't have or were hoist by their own petard'

Yeah he was redeemed. Also this The 2 fights/episode quota worked very well in G. GX destroyed it. Remember that awful Garie episode? AXZ did it better, but XV is where the formula got G-good again.

Yeah, i had problems with him still being a mess

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>Elsa comes back and reveals that she hid in the explosion of her own blood

>He also said stuff like he had valid reasons to do what he did and asked people to stop messing around.
Fine also said she had a valid reason and Adam literally said he intended to use the DP to take over the world like Fine.

Anyone who thinks Noble Red is permadead is an absolute fucking idiot. You don't bring on subantagonists, give them half the screentime in the show, then have them played up repeatedly on supplementary material by VAs and everyone fucking else too, just so you can dead and stay dead them in fifteen seconds flat.

>silver
That won't be a problem.

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The keywords said that they couldn't activate it again, not even Carol's song could do it.

Is Fudo still going to be an antagonist or is he done? It wasn't really clear at the end of the episode if they managed to arrest him or what

Fine went ragemode and "FUCK YOU I'LL KILL YOU" when people criticized her reasons. Adam acted more like a human being and less like a ball of anger.

That's because it's broken and only some kind of madman could possibly fix it (again)

Yea agreed. Hopefully they can nail the finale.

I'm not defending the point any more than people who would state the writing is good. I just haven't seen anything properly arguing against the points other than "retard."

Its just so fucking lame user, if this was their actual end I would be fucking pissed. I don't fucking understand why anons are so keen on it. They just made some retarded edgy characters to kill in a retarded edgy way and if all this was for shock value only I will be pissed. There is still a chance of a good message about humanity and becoming a monster with NR and I hope they don't fuck it up.

Dumb Maria never even realized she should have tried to abjure Millaarc with her crosses

There isn't anyone there who can put Fudo into actual jail, Tsubasa is done and I don't think Gen's in a state to 1v1 him. He'll blast off and come back for the finale.

Why? That's the point of his character. He's a fucking mess, but he can still try and improve things bit by bit. Bikki singing "even a little courage is courage" when he gets his GX episode isn't coincidence

I missed "no"

Exactly, because Kaneko is saving it for the Miku exorcism arc.

Nah Symphogear has good writing. They won't pull a cheap move like that. They're dead.

He seemed like he was basically done when Murakumo got destroyed.

>the fuck these weirdos are talking about

That's because he knew he was about to get his shit murdered, and was trying to coward out.

>silver
>also a Custodian relic so she does holy damage
Frankenstein's monster didn't really have a weakness besides being smelly.

Mostly because a lot of people really didn't like them as villains, they went out of the way to make themselves unsympathetic, plus the whole villain redemption stuff has already gotten pretty old, so a lot of people are happy to just have them killed off without having to go through that

>hey this show sucks
>100 posts of REDDIT, Yea Forums, FUCK OFF
>we never took the bait guys

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>it's a tsubasa acts like a retard AGAIN and gets her dad killed episode
Jesus christ

Why the fuck does every single bullshit theory about Ver coming back, no matter how many times he dies or is stated to be dead, sound perfectly plausible
I love how crazy this series is

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Anyone who writes a big blog about how something is shit is just going to get called a retard. Less is more.

It IS his character, but that doesn't explain why we have to watch him be a big fuckup. Even if you NEEDED some number of Hibiki-topdad minutes to pad out the episode it should have been tilted more Hibiki's way. It took Hibiki a long fucking time to make it from the crater to her dad's house, a complete fucking wreck, and we don't get to see any of it or any explanation why she did it other than "I just did.":

Okay what other plot points does this Season have to close?

>Maria's gear
>Apple song
>Miku
>Hibiki and Gungir
>The moon beam

Anything else?

I can't wait for the Ver x Nephilim duet.

The real question should be 'how will his death redeem him?'

I wish I could, but hope is the last thing to die.

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>Frankenstein's monster didn't really have a weakness besides being smelly.

He had no weaknesses to speak of but also didn't have any real invulnerabilities either. He was just really strong but killable by normal means

How is it a blog to talk about anime?

>Failed alchemic experiments trying to make fictional monsters won't die unless by the weakness of their fictional counterparts
>Implying a god beam can't override any of that bullshit
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

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s1 had a lot more quieter moments than the rest of the seasons because they only had 3 geahs to advertise. They had much more room to breathe. With the FIS trio joining, they were now shilling 6 geahs * 2 songs (A/B sides) + (2 to 4) group songs

Then GX had Ignite and they had more alternate versions of songs and the antagonists started getting their own songs. After Ignite was union and the number of duets increased. You can see why they're incentivized to have as many fights as possible to squeeze as much songs as they can.

Still pretty sure they could at least have discussed the uses of god power

Disagreed. Some down time with character interaction is good. Better than a walk.

I recall him not really liking fire, at least initially. Although while that's kind of her general idea, Vanessa is more of just a cyborg than a frankenstein, so maybe zapping her? Does Astroboy have any weakness besides running out of butt oil?

Case in point.

He's certainly disappointed but he was ready to take that last attack head-on, I think. Even spirit-broken and bare-handed he's still one of the strongest people in Japan.

>Scorpions
>Custodians
>Original song/language
>Shem-Ha

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His weakness was loneliness

Desspression

The nation he says he was defending wants him arrested. Unless he go "I'm Japan" he's pretty much done.

Why didn't Tsubasa and Fudo have a full on sword fight instead of just taking turns being overpowered. How did they mess up so much bros.

If it's long it's a blog. It's been this way on Yea Forums for about a million years. It's not even the first time it happened with this very show and why people continue to be surprised that their long-ass reviews are received poorly is beyond me.

>Some down time with character interaction is good. Better than a walk.
Hibiki has like five fucking lines total. It's mostly just watching topdad talk.

>They're dead.

Except that that wasn't Vanessa's reaction

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Union was actually good though. This way they could squeeze the 1 fight/character into 0.5 fight/character.

Fine/Enki
Maybe finding something for Chris to do

They brought Top Dad back, there's no way they'll not bring back Ver.
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Why didnt Fudo had kids with Tsubasa

It needed 2 eps not 1

That's how that family swordfights.

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>Hibiki and Gungir
What's there to close? It's Hibiki's Gungnir.

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>Still pretty sure they could at least have discussed the uses of god power
He said he was going to use it to oppress the shit out of humanity, and ignore the god killer spear instead of using it to kill Shem Ha or double teaming it with her. There was nothing he had to say about god power that was good news.

The hell are you talking about?

Fudou could literally not give less of a shit about the government, "dog of the government" is his go-to insult for the sons and daughter who disappointed him. What he thinks is Japan isn't anything nearly half so small as "the government."

Wait, weren't the experiments done on them about trying to become immortal in first place? Even though they were failures I now have a minimal amount of hope that they'll come back on their own somehow.

Nah he's trying to do Palpatine's "strike me down with all your hatred" at that last moment.

>It's mostly just watching topdad talk.
Still alright. Bikki talks more than 5 lines. Topdad got things to breath a bit.

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>If it's long it's a blog.
If you want to say someone should write shorter posts, just say it instead of using a word improperly and looking stupid.

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Our seasonal shitposting

Because Tsubasa is a lesbian and in love with Maria who is also gayer than a tangerine.

Did he ever talk about "oppressing" humanity? He did talk about ruling over and controlling humanity but I don't think he considers that "oppression" because Adam's opinion of himself is that he's fucking awesome and the right man for the job.

>but that doesn't explain why we have to watch him be a big fuckup
Because that's what's in the script of the show. Nobody's forcing you to watch it.

Remember when Milaarc reacted to 'beating' Carol? Yeah, I'm sure Carol was totally dusted by her attack even though you can still hear her singing. Watching NR's reactions is definitely a sure fire way to tell when people are dead. Also did Milaarc have a look of absolute unconcern or did she look super horrified about doggo getting lasered for half a second before they both get cut in half?

Fudo dominated Tsubasa.

He was still more open to dialogue than Fine was. Fine would cackle "i got you good guys haha" when Adam would go "i'm doing it for this reason, inferior beings can't understand it"

mfw Noble Dead

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They needed more talking, longer fights and 10or so minutes in the next ep to deal with this.

>just say it instead of using a word improperly and looking stupid.
You and the person you're defending are the ones everyone's calling a retard. I'm doing just fine.

Take your long-ass review and put that shit into a blog. Nobody wants to read it. You can tell I'm right because nobody did.

We could watch Fudou take a shit for 15 minute and it would be in the script of the show but being in the script of the show does not mean, automatically, that it is good.

Yes, he mocked Germain when she said he would use his devine power to save humanity from oppression. He then said maybe it could be used for that but I will rule humans instead. So yeah he planned to set up an oppressive rule.

Milaarc might be a bitch who killed 70k people, but I would totally give her ketchup if she let me ravage her.

What a dumb response

He might have been more open to dialog but he also Roofed of Heaven an entire city.

He didn't destroy a city though did he? He just hid himself in the sky to get the god power

Fine planned to Noise an entire city, it's not Adam's fault that he's better at getting his way than Fine was.

Yeah he kinda did, then he went and hid after Hibiki got the god power instead.

Because it was a dadidose.
>Fudou beats Genjuro
>Tsubasa's dad (not) dies
>Topdad actually manages to cheer Bikki up

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Unless you're talking about his first appearance, but that was his only option to hide gungnir

Haven't seen the episode yet, what am in for?

>TSUBASA! YOU'RE BACK! HOW ARE YOU! I HAD THE BEST WEEKEND WITH MY DA....I mean yeah hey.

Even if that were the case, I'd think god power would have precedence over failure's effects if that's even their purpose. Also, can't alchemy undo alchemy? I'd think that would invalidate their regen as well if you have an alchemist on hand. Also, didn't they just take tomato juice from Fudo? Their blood needs are also a weakness. They are pretty fucked.

Kazanari showdown.

Tsurugi Yo

They better stay that way, only a little show left every moment they are on screen is wasting time.

dads

>Hey Tachibana, wanna go to the karaoke, we can invite Kohina- oh, right

Glad we're done with Tsubasa being stupid. Noble Jobbers dying and Genjuro was the only thing good about this episode.

Shitty Tsubasa character development, people swinging swords, and monsters getting literally shredded.
>vampfag tears

He could have also just not bothered getting all his Top Brass killed and just bribed SONG to keep him safe after he did the sky thing to get DPed and asked to work with Hibiki so they don't get their shit rocked in a few years. Instead Adam chose to do the most insane and pointless evil plot in Symphogear.

We are talking about Vanessa, not some dumb vampire who doesn't know when to retreat and lacks any judgment.

Old man EWGF-ing his daughter's wife.

Would you let Maria pound your ass?

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I think it's fine for topdad to show up but I think it is just absurd that we skip a shitton of Hibiki and just have him sit there and listen to her dad talk. Like, "and before I knew it, I was here." Why? "Because you're my dad." Why not her mom? It's not like GX set up their relationship so bloody fucking well that it became the natural #1 place to go.
Come the fuck on. I don't know if I'm the only one but the whole thing felt like it could have been set up far more naturally than it was.

Also topdad literally knows who Miku is so that's weird too and how the entire cut-out explanation that Hibiki gave (shouldn't we at least be KINDA interested in what Hibiki is thinking more than fucking top dad?) went is just a big question mark.

I can see this happening
Sword is denser than steel and Hibiki is well Hibiki

Miku smiting demons

Maybe it's that kind of fucked up immortality that only activates under extremely special circumstances, which is why the rape alchemists assumed it to be defective.

>Noble Dead coming back is determined by Vanessa's reaction
You guys are arguing about the dumbest shit. Millaarc and Elza could have been thrown in a blender and made in to smoothies, and they can still come back through some bullshit reason.

I would breed a new wave of humanity with her.

Why are you setting yourself up for disappointment?

>all these seething vampirefags calling this the worst episode

Well, I'm already desperate, so I'd gladly take a tomato.

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Innocent people dying

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user, you can't get pregnant in your butt.

>Maria
>being aggressive
please

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Maria has the sexiest bodysuit prove me wrong

>Maria's gear
Already revealed as a custodian relic recovered from the Iraq war.
>Apple song
Already revealed as some Custodian tune from maria's ancestors, but much more importantly is is we've got Chernobyl as an established thing we've barely touched on outside of the OP and Maria mentioning her ancestors having to be evicted.
>Miku
All signs to today's episode point to her being dead, unless the small fragment of Miku remaining in Shem-Ha freaks the fuck out the next time she sees Hibiki
>Hibiki and Gungir
This shit won't be explained at all in-show and it'll be left for keywords, mark my word
>The moon beam
The one Enki sent down or the one at the end of today''s episode? The former is him starting up the Curse of Balal, the latter who knows what the fuck it is.
>Scorpions
Just a way to go "Hey this thing that's normally found here was at this place a really really fucking long time ago, so there might've been custodians here".
>Custodians
ayyyy lmao Shem Ha and Enki are two, there might be more that Shem Ha's calling for up on the moon, let's wait and see
>Original song/language
Shem-ha/Apple's aufwachen form, though there might be more to it asides from "Custodian language". If the series ends with everyone talking in a made up alien language once the curse is lifted then the ending becomes 10/10 by default
>Shem Ha
After ten thousand years she's free, it's time to conquer earth.

Sure, anything CAN happen, there can be an infinite god machine hidden in the moon and Kanade and Serena will come back and they'll all throw a big party, but the fact that Elsa and Millaarc have been bisected rather than blended means that Vanessa can bring them back with nothing but basic-bitch alchemy and surgery instead of relying on truly philosophical-weapon level supernatural bullshit.

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MIRACLES DO EXIST!

Wouldn't it be fun if their parts melded together into a bat-dog abomination?

oh please, she's the one that wants to take in the sword.

Adopt a miracle

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Maria should have wrapped her arms around her there but she still did good.

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Maria thought she was a sword but she was actually a sheath the entire time. She just wanted Maria's big slav hands to (wo)manhandle her.

>All signs to today's episode point to her being dead
The last time we saw her she was flying towards a bright light, if you think they'd kill off Hibiki's wife of five seasons without even a send-off you're smoking something.

>This shit won't be explained at all in-show and it'll be left for keywords, mark my word
You're not wrong except insofar it was already explained in AXZ keyword 11.

That was probably going to be her next step but Fudo

Unironically yes. I fucking love fusion.

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Noble Dead's going to need a miracle to get out of this alive.

Shem-Ha gotta get cannon fodder from somewhere, unless you like fighting noise for 4 episodes.

So is this the rankings?
>Best Ass
Hibiki
>Best Breasts
Chris
>Best Hips
Maria
>Best Legs
Tsubasa
>Best Hair
Kirika
>Best Face
Shirabe

Maria did good
You Maria fags are okay, you can stay

Welp, I better put a stop to that.

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That's a valid point, Vanessa's body was almost completely destroyed and she was still saved by ALCHEMY.

But who has the best pits?

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Its a good thing that they are next to the lord of miracles.

I want to put a miracle inside of Kyaroru's belly!

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>Vanessa can bring them back with nothing but basic-bitch alchemy and surgery
Nigga they can barely patch up booboos when Vanessa isn't currently cut in half and at least four pieces scattered around the room. They don't regenerate for shit, especially not when they're running on ketchup. They only thing that could possibly fix them is Shem-Ha and that's a straight resurrection because they are fukkin' ded kiddo.

Well, I am the Lecher Bitch
And I call on all who feed on danger
Taste of the whore, suffer my seed
Crawl with the heretic
And the world outside gets a little bit stranger
Look in my eyes
Wanna little star fuck and a little good pain

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Will she get a new hair wing? Is the old one gonna have some sad backstory in the key words? Like being a gift from her brodad

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I don't think Vanessa'll be resuscitating doggo's heart hole and blood loss when she needs time to put herself back together first. Also, severed spine is pretty much ded status. Vanessa will be lucky to crawl over and hug their meat slabs.

>Best Legs
>Tsubasa
That's Milaarc now

Vanessa has like three biological pieces in her entire body, she can probably deal with this kind of thing.

Too late for that.

That one is just part of her gear and it's already back in Amalgam.

Long and smooth>>>>>Turkey drumsticks

Nigga you're literally me.
>her ass if Hibiki's charm point
>technically Maria has a bigger bust than Chris but her diminutive stature just makes Chris' tiddies more pronounced
>on paper, Maria has the highest waist/hip ratio. Them Ukiranian genes.
>Tsubasa has very long super model legs.
>dess
>Shirabe's eyes are mesmerizing.

>Tsuria just spend the next several moments honking her own tits.

Millaarc will use her magic bio booster wings to replace doggo's heart lungs and spine before dying. Vanessa is still fine as her head is still whole so those two will be fine and get to die making the Moon bridge so Hibiki can one-v-one Shem Ha.

Vanessa is actually decent at putting herself back together, she was able to get that new hand out of nowhere and she's literally held together by energy fields.

If Noble Red was two-episode bit antagonists I'd agree that they sure LOOK dead but they've been set up far too much in XV, both in-universe and with all sorts of promotional IRL shit, that I guarantee their story isn't over yet even if they all go into a blender. The rest of what I'm doing is just guessing how it happens.

Some bullshit with their monster-half will happen, unfortunately.

>she was able to get that new hand out of nowhere

In her home based where she had tools to play with. Right now she's basically obliterated

The problem with NR is pacing. They could have started showing sympathic flashbacks at the beginning, with no real victims at the start (neither Chris nor FIS have killed people on-screen; Maria only killed innocent-killing Americans, those don't count). But the longer the series goes and the deeper down the rabbit hole they go, the more bad things they do and monstrous they become, which would also double as character development.

Killing 70k+ people + donutting a loli, then go "WOE IS US!", then continue to ruthlessly kill people is just jarring. They show no remorse or character development, so why should we have sympathy for them?

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RIP until they aren't RIP or until the gacha, I guess.

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>oh sorry for just killing you.

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They aren't even worth of gacha hell

>head is still fine
>body is not
Yeah, she'll definitely be able to put them back together with no tools or spare parts. Sounds legit.

>it's a dad episode
Okay that was cool, now can we really get the Shem-Ha plot moving please.

>nothing personnel, kid

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>Noble Red can just heal it up quick!
Milaarc is still wearing her bandage from when she got beat up by that Zababa Plane.

I don't like NR, I do agree with you their pacing is shit, but I think them dying for real here only makes things far worse.

Vanessa will be just a robo-head that gives advice from now on.

>Hang on miss god/satan thing, I see that you've effortlessly lasered me and my kazoku into bits but could you kindly not to that for a few minutes while I roll myself back together and then perform miracle life saving surgery on two living beings that have currently been bisected in this lab without proper tools and in record time. If you could could you also pick up us some super rare blood that isn't actually ketchup, because we also need that to live. And distract the gears outside while you're at it so they don't come in here looking for you and find me trying to stitch my sisters back together. k thx.

Yet using the wings she could still use that arm no problem. All Elsa and Millarc need is to apply their power to their everything.

It's 2019, wireless is everywhere.

What if the rare blood is what prevents from turning into monsters, thus needing regular transfusion to replace the blood gone bad? It would also make sense why using their powers requires blood afterwards, since using their monster abilities speeds up their transformation.

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I figured she fucked off to do whatever it is Shem-has do in their spare time after her whole neat slice-and-dice thing.

That's clothing now. They are basically hobos after all.

>Elsa will be stapled back together with duct tape, wishes, and buttplug tails

It did moral damage. She could never recover from that.

Fake chart poster. Just go away already.

Did you not listen to the other part where Doggo will put her back together?

WRYYYYYY

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It just sucks to have four seasons telling a certain type of people they wrong just to give them a treat on the fifth.

>>Best Hair
>Kirika
This needs to be appreciated more. Dess's hair is super cool and fluffy.

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But who puts back together the put-back-togetherer? They have a hard enough time finding blood, do you think Fudo just keeps readily transplantable hearts and lungs lying around?

You know what? Symphogear is pretty realistic in that most lesbians do have daddy issues.

The canis will be cannibalized.

Meanwhile during the TsubaMari fight

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man of culture.

>do you think Fudo just keeps readily transplantable hearts and lungs lying around
Do you really want an answer for this one?

>Dess's hair is super cool and fluffy.
But that's all of Dess

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Rate the dads
Yasuhiro > Genjuro >>> Topdad >>> Fudo

Well, if they need all her parts to repair Millaarc and dog, that really will be all that's left.

>do you think Fudo just keeps readily transplantable hearts and lungs lying around?
Where are the other Kazanari brothers?

What would he ever need those for? The only organs he'd allow in his body would be pure Kazanari stock. Can't have inferior non-sakimori bits dragging you down.

Shouldn't the transformations have started then? There's been some time since they took the tomato sauce and they had to drag themselves from the chateau to Fudo's house.

How come the only female Kazanari we see is Tsubasa?

tsubasa was supposed to be the big cheese and all the others were just breeding stock

>topdad being useless but still tries his best to help
>Genjuuro fight since forever
>Maria actually did freaking broke the seal
>More Tsubasa suffering for a sweeter tomato
I like this episode, I don't care if I have shit taste
t. Maria&Swordfag

They're probably running on fumes and plot armor if that's the case. We'll see next week what happens.

>female
You know how Tsubasa's grandfather was actually his father? Well I've got some more fucked up news for you.

I liked it too user.

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>Episode 5 - 9 all happen within the span of 2 days
And the happening still shows no sight of stopping. Everyone's stress level must be through the roof now.

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>You know how Tsubasa's grandfather was actually his father? Well I've got some more fucked up news for you.
> his father
> his

Tsubasa is actually a trap, so he can use the Symphogear like a true SAKAMORI?

Finé when? Vercingetorix when?

Millaarc dies to put her wings on dog so she has a working set of heart and lungs.

What would be more thematically fun if NR has to survive somehow.
>Millaarc and Elsa turn into monsters, Vanessa fights them. All her internal dialogue is about how dumb and wrong she was, but she wants to make up for it. All/Some/One of them survives, but stay eternally monstrous.
>Only Vanessa survives, is depressed by the death of the duo but the show plays the 'poor innocent villains' card and tries to victimize them. She later does the villain sacrifice shtick.

What if, this happened... and Shem-ku was still there? Could you imagine them getting back up and then getting beam sword'd again and more vigorously? I'd be good with that actually. Kaneko, get on that.

>Millaarc and Elsa turn into monsters, Vanessa fights them. All her internal dialogue is about how dumb and wrong she was, but she wants to make up for it. All/Some/One of them survives, but stay eternally monstrous
This one sounds way cooler

I don't think that's how wings work. The most 'reasonable' thing for any of them to do is for Milaarc to glue her wings on Vanessa's head or whatever is left and doggo to plug her tail into that.

Y I K E S

> lasers them to death over and over again
> THEY STILL REGENERATE
> eventually, Shem Ha just says "Fuck this shit!" and turns them into monster minions

>What would be more thematically fun if NR has to survive somehow.
Shem-ha revives them as full monsters, they accept because it beats being dead and at this point they give no fucks anymore. The build a daedalus end to the moon and try to stop the gears from reaching Shem-ha and get friend punched and told that it doesn't matter what they looked like because the real humanity was inside them all along
Except that it wasn't because they're total bitches and then dess desses them to dess for good.

>Finé when?
In three episodes
>Vercingetorix when?
In one episde