Realistically, how would you feel about...this. In one hand, it is kinda your sister. In another hand...

>murdered your actual sister in the womb
like can only ve repaid with like.
forgvenes can only be purchased murdering her womb in revenge

>it is kinda your sister
can someone give me a quick rundown?

In the interest of time, she's basically a changeling

That is not really explaining the sister thing

>murdering her womb
>not filling her womb and having her make a child to replace what was lost

There is this immortal bird which impregnates a woman with itself to rebirth itself and live forever.
But she doesn't know she is that.
MC finds out

She is actually a phoenix-like being that reincarnate by replacing the baby in mother's womb. But she doesn't really know that, and grew up like a normal sister would

But she doesn't wonder why she can shapeshift?

That make no sense. There's no such thing as a daughter-imouto.

She cant

>There's no such thing as a daughter-imouto.
There would be if you impregnate your mother

you murdering her womb by drowing it in semen

I meant changeling in the folklore baby replacing sense, not some sort of shape shifter

Bump 4 birb

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Platinum cute

I'm pretty sure I kill more cells than she did every time I jerk off so who gives a fuck?

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technically she's a magic cuckold bird. ararararrraragi's dad is a cuck.

>In another hand, it murdered your actual sister in the womb

It clearly didnt, considering she looks exactly like her relatives.
Also a fetus isnt technically a human yet, in the same way that a larvae isnt the insect its going to evolve into.

Dilate

Mods confirmed for not passing 8th grade biology class. Unborn babies are not like larvae.
Is this post high quality enough for you?

platinum cunny

Only if she lets me lick her feet and have sex with the geta on with her

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I'm a beefag anyway

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>beef ag
Mmm... beefy!

both sisters are top tier

>the birds and the bees

Holy fuck, how did I just notice this? I'm S L O W

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let me tell you about the birds and the bees and the flowers and the trees and the moon up above and a thing called love.
youtube.com/watch?v=NAPoxEdwLJM

>original replaced before it was ever actually a person
>fake grew up with shared parents, environment, life experiences etc

Oddity-Tsukihi is a realer sister than the "real" Tsukihi ever was. Would continue to love, defend, and occasionally molest as per usual.

tell me about birb
why does she wear the yukata?

In a sense, didn't Birb steal that life from the real sister? It's the part that bother me the most. It's just hard to accept

Maybe if "real" Tsukihi already a baby or something but birb hijack her when she's barely a fetus. Kinda hard to feel sorry for something that's hardly alive yet.

this but also she should have beat bat's ass for 3-0

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You murder her womb through repeated penetration.

this is comfy. it's from the tsukihi phoenix op, right?

Yes it's from Platinum Disco

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Would you die if she took it off?

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Nice, wholesome incest.

No, Yozuru was actually right. My distaste for oddities and love of justice overrides my familial bonds with a bird which killed my sister and took her place.
The fact she didn't consider Araragi himself an oddity shows you how loose her definitions for human are as well considering I wouldn't consider Araragi a human with his ability to regenerate, eternal otter mode and incessant need to turn into a Vampire.

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It's a package deal

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short-hair skeehee is a treasure

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She didn't murder jack, you headcanon cuck. She got into Mamaragi's womb (presumably) as she was giving birth to Karen, and then just grew like a normal fetus.

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I too skipped episode 11's opening narration.

Thats not really true. The immortal bird fused with the fetus creating an entity that is neither the original baby nor the monster.

Oh for sure Ononoki and Kagenui were doing the right thing by exterminating that thing. Araragi is the one who's fucked in the head. His self esteem is so low that ANYONE, even inhuman monsters that systematically abort children against their mothers will, are worth more than he is in his eyes.

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Me in the middle.

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This and the more recently translated bird doujinshi by the same mangaka were great.

Isn't bee over 6 feet tall, a police woman and still living with her brother in the time skip volume?

Snek is not even cute.
She's disgusting.

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>Opening narration literally says the phoenix is a harmless oddity that never hurts anyone.
>murder

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She's probably going to live with him for the rest of her life if she has any say in it.

It isn't like araragi can do anything about it.

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You never knew your actual sister. Who gives a shit. Unless you care more about blood ties than a sibling bond, it's a worthless argument.
You know the famous idiom "Blood is thicker than water"? Today you learn that it's actually a shortened version of "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb." As in, blood soldiers shed together is worth more than the water brothers are born in. The meaning became completely flipped in recent centuries, but what matters most is the bonds you make, not the bonds that are made for you.

Lies.

>Opening narration says that the dying bird killed Tsukihi and replaced her
>not murder

That's a fucking lie people have been pushing for ages.

Killing a fetus isn't murder you /pol/fag

You fell for a meme, I'm sorry. "Blood is thicker than water" dates back to at least the 12th century and meant the same thing.

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Nice back pedaling speed watcher-kun

FUCK OFF POL!

If said phoenix carefully worked to be identical to the actual sister, then it is basically identical to her now, so little difference.

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Nah it's fine, I'm pro-choice

it would extremely platinum

Lmao

>Smart
>Cute
>Feminine
>Crazy

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Replacing a few cells is not killing someone, you really should know that

>love of justice overrides my familial bonds

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Imagine if someone malignant killed your newborn sister and replaced her with own child. But then you grew together as siblings and realized the replacement only after a couple of decades. Will you kill the resulting sister for nbrness, or just ignore it? Comparable problem without oddities.

Yeah, it's like any of the other oddities that possess people. It's not actually killing people and taking their place, just integrating itself into them. The Phoenix is harmless because, unlike the others, it doesn't actually do anything after that. Skiihi really is his genuine sister, she just has an oddity ingrained in her soul.

>the victim isn't your sister, it's your mother

What kind of bootleg translation did you watch this with?

Or did you get confused when shinobu described an actual cuckoo, that kills the existing eggs, with the oddity, that does not.

No it doesn't. It is the fetus. There was no original fetus to replace.

already answered: you murder the "nbr" by taking her to pound town

>with a bird which killed my sister and took her place.
But he didn't. He simply pretented to be a new child.

An approachable level of crazy. Like, she does whatever the fuck he feels like at that second but also knows how not to cross the lines of what people will put up with.

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Scramble her eggs in righteous fury.

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>spoiler
That's false though, did you actually do any research before trying to make your claim?

Where did she get such a large egg?

It's not exactly by choice though

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Which Monogatari girls have you guys jerked off to the most? Be honest.
For me it's Karen.

No other comes close.

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Karen is pretty up there for me - Araragi family incest is top tier - but it also might be one of the lolis. I wish there were more Monkey doujins.

God that's a hot Bird.

Probably karen but bird is second.

Birb

I probably could've single-handedly saved the white race with the amount that I've spilled it to Shinobu

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Is she Prime?

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Yes, she is lewd in many of the same ways.

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her age is divisible by numbers other than itself and one, so no.

based snek fittin' slap bat's shit. AGAIN

>filthy cuckoo trying to replace ANOTHER arararararagi sister
bout to get STUNG by the superior ACTUAL imouto

The actual imouto loves her though.

Mayoi by a long shot.

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But she is a child!!

A sexy child.

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I'm not gonna say that I haven't masturbated to her, but she doesn't exactly murder my dick like some other characters.

I enjoy her personality and design quite a lot.

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I do too, they just don't give me a lot of inspiration to jerk my dick that I get from Shinobu, or even Yotsugi.

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you might just have a case of the big gays user

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I think I'd personally only be bothered if she knew and was actively living a life of deceit with the intention of replacing future children. Besides, Shinobu killed and ate people, and not just that one vampire hunter. This just isn't a series to get hung up on those sorts of details.

bros...

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Sounds like you need to trade her in for one in working condition.

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I'm not fond of how he's got fuck-me eyes looking at me and not Mayoi

Shinobu, but mostly just because she has the most porn.

You don't like the thought of being next in line?

Give her three years.

Math is one of the best. It's just a fact.

>he doesn't want to be fucked by araragi
Everyone wants that semi-vampiric dick. It's a universal constant.

one of the best tropes for sure

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Senjougahara because of that one classic doujin.

I’m gonna need a source on that.

>your actual sister
No, she is Araragi's actual sister. They grew up together as siblings and share that bond. Some fetus who never even developed a brain can't compare.

Think of the cuckolds. They put their eggs in other birds' nests. Tsukihi is like that.

Snek, then bee, then bird.

I like how she's a crazy bitch

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Lolililiragi's dad is the cuck. Lolililiragi's main GF is ok with cuckoldry, and fugged Kaiki. It must run in the senpai...
Cockblocking yanderes are the worst , user.

>It must run in the FAMily..

But unironically so.

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Fucking in her clothes without even inviting her is just a dick move. Also, Karen has cockblocked just as hard.

...Koyomin

A fetus isn't actually your real sister. The person you grew up with and loved, that is your real sister.

Overall though, I find it hard to argue she did anything wrong. Even if she could have chosen to stay dead, which I don't think she could have, then why should it? For the sake of a unborn human child that might or might not even reach adulthood?

Is there anyway I can read Tsukihi undo? I'm guessing it's only in moonrunes now, but it looks like so much fun.

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>In another hand, it murdered your actual sister in the womb.

Is that what happened? I thought she just went inside the mom during sex?

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckoo#Brood_parasitism
>The cuckoo egg hatches earlier than the host's, and the cuckoo chick grows faster; in most cases the chick evicts the eggs or young of the host species.

Cuckoo girl magic aborted the real sister,and replaced her.

Was this confirmed in the novels/anime etc. rather than just you supposing from something you read at wikipedia?

Does it even really matter?

You've only ever known this Tsukihi, so it's not like you should have any attachment to the "original".

She didn't even make it past being a fetus.

Shinobu said it's harmless and never hurts anyone. I don't think it's ever stated when the oddity actually happens though.She also said it functions the same way a cuckoo bird does by planting its egg in a human nest (womb), but she doesn't say if it gets rid of a real child or anything.

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>As a phoenix, a bird of the ashes, it transmigrates into the womb of a mother who has conceived
>Karen was born in June and Tsukihi in April, making the math between their birthdays haphazardly close

If the official TL didn't fuck up the first line, than there was a fertilized egg, but even if Paparagi fucked Mamaragi right in the labour ward, it was ~1 month old, only a child to mentally-ill pro-lifers. That's why the book also says:

>And so, strictly speaking, it is not thy sister that the bird possessed, but rather thy dam. Thy mother.
>Broadly speaking, it is a harmless variety of aberration. It carries out no mischief on human beings─it is simply a fake.

I wanna fuck that bird

1 month is like the minimum of when it's recommended to to have sex again so it must've been instant or a few days old. Regardless, it doesn't really answer the question of whether or not it replaced a fertilized egg that could've been a real sister given the time, or if it was always going to be Tsukihi from conception. It probably did replace something because that just sounds the most logical given the oddity.

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No this is just another brilliant reason to get busy with your "sister".

Maybe the first quote is supposed to mean "literally in the moment of conception."

As I see it, it became the fetus. If we are going by the cuckoo theme, then it was the birb that impregnated the women with itself.

Kanbaru. Bat is my favorite but I can't fap to her.

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No way fag

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crab and or gaen

Ignoring any "But they are cute" arguments. Is there any reason to be against Oddity genocide?

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unfortunately only sodachi fiasco is translated from orokamonogatari

Why would you do that? If they benefit you, and you can control them without causing too much trouble for normalfags, why genocide them? Yeah, ones like monkey, where you go berserk if you use them, or tiger burning everything for fun is a no go. Those like snail or bird or even crab are mostly harmless, and by inhabiting former or current humans, their sins are not great enough to deserve death. Instead of killing them, teach the wielders how to keep their oddities in line or even use them for good if possible. Preferably without pulling any Charlotte shit in an attempt to weaponize them

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is there any reason for oddity genocide?

Because humans would just generate a bunch of new ones and then you'd have made the potentially dangerous system a whole lot more chaotic. Also because it would involve murdering a bunch of harmless and sentient lifeforms.

You can fuck them.

Kanbaru

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She almost killed best girl
But she's the main reason for the best arc, so I forgive her

>192625293
Also this

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That reaction was priceless.

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Weakness disgust me.

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>Because they are a danger to humanity
humanity is the reason they exist in the first place
are you retarded?

Can they actually be controlled though? Outside of arguably Shinobu, it doesn't seem to be easy.

They are a possible threat to human hegemony.

Does it actually work that way in this universe?

But we already have humans for that.

Humanity being the reason they exist doesn't make them any less of a potential danger.

A real psychiatrist (read one whose purpose isn't just to sell meds) can easily help them at least keep the oddities on a leash if not control them. They act on their masters' emotions. With the anime sample size I cant really say how to refine the controllable ones and the ones that must be killed off. But if a fucking highschooler can help the victims overcome their problems, imagine what a mental health specialist can do. Half of the girls were in need of mental help anyway

I mean, I would agree with you. But i'm unsure if psychiatrists actually exist in this universe.

Sure they do. And they are jus like ours. You don't visit them unless you are forced to or are really in the deep shit with no way out. And even if they don't, if a person is comfortable with his oddity and isn't causing too much trouble, who are you to take it away from him?

All the three lolis they have the best doujins

Ougi best girl (male)

As long as it's this cute