So her parents divorce when she's 2 and her dad completely ghosts her for 16 years. He bought her an euphonium once, didn't even bother to see her or listen to her or keep track of her at all. Meanwhile her mom is raising her while holding a job and STILL lets her play the euphonium even though she hates it. And what does Asuka do? She tries to get to the nationals just so her ghost dad can acknowledge she exists, and mom has to watch all that happen. And she hates her mom on top of that because she thinks its her fault that her dad won't see her. As if he couldn't get visitation rights if he really gave a shit about her.
huh almost as if raising a kid is hard. Better disappear for 16 years and send an expensive gift once.
Wyatt Williams
>the abuse is justified because I'm a single parent Hope you don't have kids. who am I kidding, this is 4channel
Isaiah Williams
That's the level of entitlement in a lot of parents. They think they deserve to be appreciated and loved just because they worked hard, even if it was the wrong thing to do.
Decent chance dad is staying away because he knows that mom would make things worse if he got involved.
Isaac Stewart
There's nothing funny about pretending to be retarded. Say it out loud. Go on. Reflect on it. And then go away.
Jacob Miller
They're adults and they can work a visitation program that could work for the child. They don't have to love eachother or to not even hate eachother. Millions of divorcees do this.
To say the dad stayed away just because he was afraid Mom would somehow do something bad (what?) and make it worse for Asuka makes it sound like the dad is completely powerless.
And mom, other than that incident of abuse, is not shown to shittalk the dad OR prevent her daughter from following in his footsteps. She let her play the euphonium for 16 years.
Benjamin Ross
Can you imagine how hard it must be seeing your daughter idolize some ghost that doesn't give a shit about her and somehow thinking that if she plays in the Nationals, he will acknowledge her and maybe even talk to her?
You have to sit there and watch that shit going on. Meanwhile, you know that it wont because you dated that guy and you know exactly what kind of person he is and what he cares about it. But you still have to encourage your daughter to play euphonium because it, on its own, is beneficial and a good skill that she cares about.
Brody Ward
Mom sure doesn't act like an adult. And we've got one incident of abuse out of the two appearances she's made? "Only" 50% is doing great.
Julian Lopez
Part of why I appreciate Kyoani is their appreciation for fathers.
Gavin Torres
Sounds like you're trashing her dad and not her.
Joseph Scott
I guess i should cut her some slack because she's still a child.
No, I didn't know about that thread but thanks for posting it. I'm honestly curious how would anyone see this situation differently from me and will check the replies. It looked so cut and dry I was surprised Kumiko didn't call her out during that scene.
Benjamin Gomez
wait, that thread is about Shuichi. I am talking about Tanaka and her dad. how are they related.
Easton Gutierrez
He is a faggot that posted a twitter thread. You shouldn't engage with him.
Oliver Nelson
Asuka’s parents are just plot devices to push the story.
Noah Wood
If you want to talk about this in terms of story elements, then yeah. They were plot devices and quite bad ones at that. It banked on the romanticism of trying to reach out to a distant figure through your actions, show through that that you share your love of music. But it completely avoids talking about why that figure is distant in the first place and it makes the scenes worse instead of better.
Asuka was already a compelling character, didn't need a fairytale dad reunion.
Owen Ward
when will I be able to finally watch the 3rd movie?
literally next second Kumiko says 'But really you hate her right" and she doesn't refute.
Robert Clark
Essentially the same plot hole as “why Nozomi and Mizore has no contacts for a year despite both of them go to the same school everyday.” Those inconsistencies happened because Hibike was not expected to go beyond S1/volume 1 of the novel.
Julian Adams
It's been a while since I watched it but Asuka's mom seems very emotionally manipulative. Smacking her daughter and then crying as if she's the victim. I think she said something like "I raised her all by myself" as if that's an excuse that Asuka has to obey everything her mom asks her to without question. Maybe she forbade the father from seeing his children. Some mothers are just cunts.
Aiden Torres
she cant forbid anyone from seeing his child unless the guy is a pedophile or something. The dad could definitely have been in her life if he wanted to.
The slap is obviously not cool but don't forget that she did actually let her play the euphonium for many many years.
>She cant forbid anyone from seeing his child unless the guy is a pedophile or something. I dunno about that, how are family courts in Japan?
Nathaniel Perry
>let her play the euphonium Allowing something is not some kind of accomplishment.
Hunter Perez
Appearently Japan does not support joint custody. I don't know much about Japanese law but I've read some stories online about how people are unable to see their child despite their best efforts. Though most of these stories involve gaijins.
Alexander Baker
IT's not an accomplishment but it's also evidence that she doesn't have to obey everything her mom asks her to without question. If mom looked out only for herself, she wouldn't have let her daughter play the same instrument as her ex.
That would explain things.
Nathaniel Moore
This. From what little we've seen of Asuka's mom, she seems like a textbook narcissist.
Grayson Gomez
>If mom looked out only for herself, she wouldn't have let her daughter play the same instrument as her ex. Asuka is extremely strong-willed and stubborn, so that was probably a compromise her mother had to make if she didn't want to make Asuka completely impossible to handle. That doesn't mean she sincerely cares about what Asuka wants.
Mason Smith
I think you're forgetting how young Asuka started playing. Her mom could have easily influenced her away from it before Asuka even had a personality to speak of.
Luke Powell
Don’t remember if the anime went through it. Asuka only got informal training in elementary school and didn’t play in band until middle school. Also she got her dad’s euphonium when she was like 6 or 7
Adrian Wright
If Asuka was that easy to influence as a kid, her mom would have never let her develop such a stubborn personality to begin with. Remember she's meant to serve as a foil/role model to Kumiko, who was easily swayed into playing the eupho instead of trombone because she was always an insecure and indecisive kid.
Ian Ortiz
holy shit I love eupho so much but they have too many degenerate fans.
Nathan Price
>get visitation rights do you think japan is a civilized country or something?
Liam Clark
since making this thread and that other poster mentioning it, I read up on this and holy shit lol.
Benjamin Williams
The character designers and instrument animator for Hibike are all gone. The visual core of this franchise is dead. That hits like a fucking dagger to my gut, man.
