This form deserved better.
Dragon Ball Super
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vegeta is undefeated against that loser.
I absolutely love Super Saiyan 3 but it bugs me how Goku doesn't really look like Goku anymore, largely due to the huge brow.
Cope
>The ONE time he could have won with it he chose to lose and bet on two retarded kids.
>And his one non canon win with it is against one of the worst movie villains
Enter CHADren.
Enter Kale.
Based
Jobgetabros someone explain this to me right now!!!!!!!!!!
>wanting goku to use that ugly form
Have sex, OP.
>someone still doesn't understand why Goku chose to bet on the two kids instead of fighting himself even when he explained it himself
Goku haters are some dumb fucking mongs
He looks serious and cool in it. Much better than what came after it.
Wtf Toyobros I thought you said Vegeta wasn't like this in the manga?????
I'll agree, it's a lot better than the weird fur muscles of SS4 and recolors. I think what I like most about it is that it has a sort of finality to its design.
>delflecting
WE won.
True Gohan fans understand that Gohan never wanted to be a fighter. Sure he could've ended up surpassing Goku, but he's much happier being a studious family man.
It really did
SS3 is the best form that and Omen
And here is one that will scare the Jobgetadogs even more
tingling back guis
>I think what I like most about it is that it has a sort of finality to its design
Yes. It should have been made better and stayed as the final one.
>three threads at the same time
Holy shit guys. When are we making a revolution on Yea Forums and make it a board of dragon ball only?
>Sure he could've ended up surpassing Goku
Stop being delusional, dog
And look what happened.
We got Gotenks, the biggest Sayain Jobber in history.
He is what, 0-4 going by the manga, 0-5 by the anime?
That's not his fault though.
Cute!
He had a great line of thought though. Buu's abilities were beyond his prediction.
Why did he show SS3 off to Kefla for no reason?
>kills off a tenth part of the population
Enter superCHAD.
Enter bejita-sama
Yeah it kind of his.
Goku should have been a better teacher.
>Gohan would have killed Cell without having to sacrifice himself if he taught him how to control his anger
>Goten and Trunks wouldn't have tried their retarded shit if Goku taught them restraint, levity and humility
Enter GODku
>88
Based
Toei & Jiren. Done.
How is goku supposed to teach gohan to release his anger? You can't be angry at will. And the goten and trunks thing is not related to gim since he was dead and trunks isn't his responsability. It's piccolo fault if you want to fault someone.
Toyo and goku. Done.
>if Goku taught them restraint, levity and humility
Yeah, why didn't he instill all of these qualities in them during those few hours! I will reiterate, Goku haters are dumb.
Vegeta and Tori. Done.
>in a few hours, a goku thread becomes the central one
Why are goku related threads always the best? See for example: m.imgur.com
Goku and tori. Done.
>Jobgeta thread was left behind
Damn, that's exactly like Goku and Jobgta, poetic.
Something i have noticed is that characterfags have some characteristics that relate to the characters the love. This is one of them.
if only there was some kind of time chamber that can turn a few hours into a few months
I like the movie with the machine Cooler in it.
>implying goku being in the time chamber would increase his hours
I don't want to be repetitive, but goku hater are soooo dumb.
Gohan and GT. Done.
HOLY FUCKING BASED
I wonder who is behind this post. How is the cyatube thing going?
It's a separate dimension entirely.
The same rules of reality do not apply
Only one of these is based.
Goku time in earth isn't going to change user. If that was the case, then goku, vegeta, trunks and gohan would stop aging because they were inside the ROSAT.
JIREN
THE GAY
I can't believe they made Jiren so strong.
BTFO
Yes because they're inside that dimension.
While Earth and Otherworld exist in another dimension from it.
I can't believe he doesn't have a single win with that power
I can't believe that the main antagonist of the arc begged for his life
I can't believe that a character finding the meaning of friendship is something that is still done to this day
>S-STOP POSTING JIREN, HE'S TOO BASED FOR US!!
So wait, how is goku gong to teach them something if goten and trunks are in other dimension?
>G-GOKU SAN JUST KNOCK ME OUT I HAVE HAD ENOUGH
*going*
No logical reason to do so. The worst part is that he was trying to regain back his stamina yet he transformed to a form that drains his stamina like a mother fucker.
I can't believe they made him stronger than broly
>talking alone
By bringing them with him.
And you called me dumb
What killed the hype?
To the otherworld? Enma isn't going to like that. And yes you are dumb.
No, to the Time Chamber.
Like i said, the time of goku on earth isn't going to change. Outside the time chamber a day is a year inside it.
Well it's a good thing the inside of the Time Chamber isn't technically on Earth.
>inb4 >voredroid
>playing with semantics
24 hours are 24 hours. Going inside isn't going to change anything. If goku is inside the time chamber for 24 hours he is going to be back in the otherworld anyway.
>three threads
We OWN this bitch.
He's obviously a fucking retard, stop trying to talk logically to him.
You don't need to worry about any of that since there's like 30 characters just on U7 stronger than SHITren, including Broly and Merus.
Keketa isn't one of them tho.
>I can't believe he doesn't have a single win with that power
You can't believe it because it didn't happened. Based.
I can't believe Jiren is literally unbeatable in an all-out fight.
I thought this was much better than super saiyan tumblr hair. If Toyotaro wanted to copy everything from the previous manga without coming up with something original, he could've at least made this form canon.
>SS3 isn't canon
Nobody said Vegeta isn't trying to surpass Goku in the manga, Juan.
He wants 3-0 against shitku, you simpleton.
based
Learn how to count.
We must find the location of the vegetafag
And make sure he never posts again
Suede.
He's homosexual (like Brolyfags).
>he wants 3-0 against shitku
I had a feeling all jobgetafags were spics. Fuck off, no one wants to hear your IESLB
Getting their dicks sucked by Vegetafags doesn't make them homosexual.
I thought Jiren the gay was the gayest
Post your favorite character and your country
SHITren
Iran
Congo
Broly
Freeza Piccolo Beerus Android 18
USA
Where is that pic with the blue guy?
Broly
Nigeria
Gohan
Mexico
Imagine
Kamen Rider
Japan
Sorry im late
Cope
Egypt
Broly and Goku
Tienshinhan
America
imagine what
Goku doesn't kiss, he just impregnates.
>Goku doesn't kiss
Nice headcanon
lets be honest he looks retarted without eyebrows
Israel
Babidi
Elder Moro is best Moro. Prove me wrong.
Australia
BONYU BOING BOING SQUISHY LUMPS OF WOMANHOOD
Digits
Get the fuck out of here with this petty garbage
Enter my cute wife Chino!
Cell
Netherlands
>needed to turn into a giant ape to beat Goku the first time
>needed to resort to sucker punch to beat him the second time
Vegeta fags coping HARD today.
>Australia.
>Superman Piccolo or Goku with SS4 demeanor.
Vegeta
Philippines
Freeza (genocider, planet thief and crying for help Version)
Israel
Here's my favorite character.
super saiyan 3 best super saiyan
does anyone have columbine gohan memes? specifically the one with the u6 saiyans
Dora the explorer is a stronger mexican fighter than goku or gohan
>He can handle godlike forms but SSJ3 is too much for him
Fuck Toriyama’s and Toei’s lazy asses
ẞased
You know what I don't get?
Anons complain about "magic pants"?
But how can simple clothing, withstand energy blasts?
I didn't need to see that.
Danke mods/jannies.
>IESLBfag forgetting the "d" as always
Suck it
To make her monkey pusy wet
Yes...
Deserved better eyebrows
Jiren
Turkey
This artist's obsession with little boy dick bothers me
Hit and Cooler's fusion
oh yeah that exists.
Waifu status: acquired.
Kid buu and 21
South Africa
>IT'S NOT FAIR!
HAHAHA
Yeah sure, but the porn makes it all worth it.
Even so, you'd think he would have learned from what happened with Gohan. Gohan fucked up and almost got everyone on the planet killed. Worse, he almost got the entire Solar System annihilated, and much more. But he decides to leave the world in the hands of two kids who were significantly less mature and able than Gohan, and guess what? They fucked up multiple times during the fight. Gomu should have took Majin Buus head off when he confronted him the first time, and let the kids grow a little more before throwing them in the deep end.
Raichu
Binland
Nigga you have to be playing dumb at this point....
HOLY BASED
>GTspic commacuck
I told you to kill yourself yesterday. Obey your master.
Enchad.
Enter The Superman.
If only the series used god more and had Goku use techniques like he did in Broly then god ki wouldn't look like a total joke.
RENCHAD.
Now looking back why are superman and Goku compared or used in verses when both aren't even the strongest in their verse.
because they both sit at about the limit of power in their verses before you get into infinite power reality warper territory and concept of a fight becomes meaningless..though Supes is arguably already there at times.
Exit GOD(ku), Enter SATAN
Superman its arguable since he faced many people who aren't in reality warping territory and had bigger set limits then him. Plus his level usually fluctuates due to different writers. Sometimes hes a level that a ounch is heard across the multiverse other times hes depowered to only handling just planets. Goku I would say he sits at the top especially anymore with the gods, Nu Broly and Jiren existing.
Wouldn't I meant.
Yes. And it's also strange how we always argue who is stronger between those two when they both got beaten by normal humans. Superman was defeated by Batman and Goku was defeated by Mr. Satan. So the real question is
Who is stronger: Batman or Hercule?
Disregarding some dumb outliers for batman, I think Hercule is actually physically stronger. But Batman would obviously win. Though I'm sure if they ever actually met, it would be in some ludicrous scenario where the only way to save the multiverse was for bats to throw the fight and lose. Hercule gets to reign supreme.
Also, Superman has more wins canon and not against batman than losses.
I really like this character. I think he is better than most DBS newcomers.
Wait has Goku ever fought Satan? I don't recall.
Also usually batman wins by planning and even then by superman holding back.
Yes physically Hercule is stronger though batman has faced people stronger than him before in his own city.
Ki = power = strength x speed (mass x velocity)
Z-fighters can use their ki and change it into strength or speed and vice versa.
If Goku has an multiversal amount of ki, he'd then be able to convert this multi-versal amount into speed or strength.
A multiversal amount of speed would easily outdo Superman's feat of reversing the time of one universe.
If speed is the only reason Superman was able to perform that feat, then Goku would be able to do the same if his speed is the same as Superman's.
So, when Seth said that Goku is more powerful, but Superman is faster then what he really meant to say was that Goku wins because all Goku has to do is convert his ki into speed.
If Superman is universal and Goku multi-versal (let's say 3 times), then Goku has 3 times the total amount of energy to put into speed as Superman has.
This is why Goku could still defeat Superman
Is Heroes worth watching? I just watched the first episode and gave up. Animation is awful and it looked like Dragon Ball Multiverse done bad
I like his coat. It's not deviantart spic level fan fic tier of a costume. His glasses/goggles reminded me of the Eradicator straight away.
>Wait has Goku ever fought Satan? I don't recall.
Gif related
Also this post tells you everything you need to know
Now post the end of the fight, disingenuous little taco-eating shitter.
It was just an ad anime for the games but now its pumping out mini episodes and still going. Its basically db fan fiction come to anime and game form with all types of forms. Its not worth your time at all. This is the only one good animated sequence from it.
oh god, there goes the thread again
>Goku was defeated by Mr. Satan
That wasn't a fight, retard, it was a show
What the fuck is wrong with the spic dogs that draw this shit
how the fuck did that ever happen? It's better looking than at least half the fights in Super.
That's not really a tall order. Super looked like shit.
Oh yeah that episode. I forgot it just like most early filler ones
yeah and so was Batmans most well renowned "victory" over Superman.
>I-i-i-it wasnt real
Cope.
I don't know but this part happened and besides the one cut of Vegeta doing a final flash this is all that's animated good for the anime. The rest is average or early Db super level tier of animation.
A lot of people rise on the old batman v superman fight defining him winning against Superman. But he only won because supes held back and batman knew that so he took advantage of that multiple times in their fight.
Super had a very hard schedule so the animation was shit, especially during first episodes. In late ToP it got good
>yeah
So, don't call it a fight
>Batmans most well renowned "victory" over Superman
BS Batman defeated Superman 5 times and none of those was in relation to a show
>Takes memes seriously
You must be a capeshit Shitrentard
>"T-Thank you Juu Nana-Gou-sama and G-Godku-sama for being so mercyful and saving our jobber universe. I-I promise I'll be stronger when we meet again, my g-great lords!"
>JIRENJIRENJIRENJIRENJIREN
>taking an obvious facetious shitpost seriously
You must be the obsessed schizo.
>BUH BUH BUH BUH BUH THEY WON DA MINI GAME
Cope.
Based
Freeza is undefeated against that jobber.
>Implying you spics know the difference between shitposts and real posts
>MINI GAME
Look it's this retard again.
>Gokekspics still cowering behind other characters
it's the Zombie, if you give him any (You)s he will spam the thread like a mindless autist that he is. Ignoring him and eventually after replying to himself for an hour he will give up
>shit, my tactic of screaming about Jiren in response to a completely unrelated post didn't work
>I know I'll call him a spic
>drops factual knowledge bombs
>R-R-R-RETARD
Cope, camel, cope.
>JIRENJIRENJIRENJIRENJIRENJIRENJIRENJIREN
Please, have mercy on his soul. Just let him rot away in solitude, any response to the Zombie just feeds him and encourages him to spam even more
Cope.
As Cuckarot copes with 2-0.
What the fuck just happened to the thread? Holy shit kill yourselves.
>Unrelated
It's not unrelated when you as a Shitrentard and that post stand in relation to each other.
You have been found out, Shitren spic
>Implying the Tournament is mini-game
>Calls the individual mini-battles the actual game
Yikes!
>not a single mention of Jiren
>Y-YOU ARE A SHITRENTARD J-JUST TRUST ME
You are fucking obsessed. It's unhealthy.
>drops factual knowledge bombs
The only factual knowledge bomb is here
>ANYONE WHO SAYS SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE IS A JIRENSPIC WAHHHHHHH WAHHHHH MOOOOOOM I SHIT MY POOPY PANTS AGAIN
>muh capeshit "discussion"
Discarded. End your life.
>not a single mention of Jiren
When it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
Yes, Shitren tards tend to create shitposts and spread them around as if they are real.
You are therefore a Shitren tard.
Cope
>N-NO YOU ARE A SHITRENTARD EVEN WHEN THERE IS NO PROOF J-JUST SHUT UP OKAY
OB to the SES to the SED.
>literally admitting that he thinks anyone who says anything he disagrees with/doesn't like is a "Shitren tard"
You really should seek help. Maybe lose some weight too.
>Unable to compete in mathematics, physics and logic
>Has to discard the entire posts due to its IQ not being sufficient to rebuke the post
Sad
>strawman
>w-w-why won't you waste your time on my retarded headcanon off-topic babble
Quiet, dog. Your master did not give you leave to speak.
>NO PROOF
I just showed you the proof by stating that you gave yourself away as a Shitren tard by spreading misinformation
>You really should seek help. Maybe lose some weight too.
Says the one who needs to watch Dumbell nan kilo materu just to get its ass of the couch for something else than a another serving of Doritos and Mountain dew
>n-no my obsession is proof p-please believe me!
>strawmanning and projection
I love laughing at you anti-Jiren spic dogs. You're predictable and hilariously inept.
>ANYONE WHO SAYS SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE LIKES [INSERT CHARACTER I DON'T LIKE]
why are dogrencopes so fucking pathetic
>strawman
Except it wasn't, pleb
Thanks for confirming your inferiority
>Quiet, dog. Your master did not give you leave to speak.
Free men desire not to be slaves nor masters.
Only those trapped in bondage, unable to meet their goals on their own, desire to be either slave or master.
Now back in your basket, mutt!
>IESLB
Kneel before me, Mexican cretin.
El Cabron
hero
>n-no my obsession is proof p-please believe me!
Strawman, you crayon eating fairy
>strawmanning and projection
I quoted you correctly, so that is not a strawman, retard
Your projecting so much they can see you in Gotham
>Strawman
I called you Shitren fags because of the way you were conjuring arguments
>no u
>calling strawman incorrectly
Over and completed.
You obviously replied to a different user, as that wasn't me.
I never posted to you yesterday user.
>admitting he just calls anyone he disagrees with a Shitren fag
You're done, kid.
>Your
>IESLB
Broly
Mali
>The slave tries to save face by exerting his authority.
It must be heart wrenching to know that you have know authority here innit, bottom feeder?
>know authority
And with that, you prove that you're a literal spic. I wash my hands of you, Mexican street urchin. Your kind has no right to speak to a charismatic and superior individual such as I. BEGONE.
>Mali
can you go post on /pol/ so I can have your flag please?
based
>Over and completed
>Shitren tard being shitty again
I only call Shitren fags Shitren fags, Shitren fag
>Implying...
>Your projecting so much
Quiet, ESL Copelycamel, QUIET.
>mini-game
The absolute state of Jobrentards. Just admit if it wasn't for the Great Juu-Nana Gou-sama, you're lovely jobber would just stay as dead as your sexual life
>completely mindbroken
I give it three posts or so before you literally post "SHITRENSHITRENSHITRENSHITREN"
>you're lovely jobber
>IESLB
Discarded, camel, discarded.
I asked you nicely not to reply to the Zombie, we dont call him that for no reason. As you can see he never stops spamming and talking to him is no different than talking to a lunatic. Now im begging you once again to not reply to him
cope shitrenspic.
Okay so I think this might actually be some degree of canon, but I'm bullshitting it up anyway.
When characters are taking part in a fight, they have a sort of passive layer of ki shielding around them, which can go down when they're not trying to fight. Hence why Goku could get hurt by that rock thrown at his head, get shot through by Sorbet's beam, or get knocked out by Majin Vegeta because they had agreed to end the fight and Goku let his guard down. This probably also extends to protecting their clothes.
It's a bullshit explanation, but it's the best I got.
>And with that, you prove that you're a literal spic
Wrong, if I hadn't added those typo's to my rebuke, you would have cowered away and hidden from your divine master in perpetuity
>Quiet, ESL Copelycamel, QUIET.
No argument
>I give it three posts or so before you literally post
You have lost the debate, admit it, it's over
nice headcanon you FUCKING dog. what the fuck are you FUCKING thinking, coming into MY fucking threads and spreading your bullshit Mexicanon like a fucking plague of fanspiction? fucking disgrace. OUT. OUT AT ONCE.
>typo's
>n-n-no I meant to do it I swear
Kneel.
S-So strong...the strongest in history...
>Crawling back from whichever rock you came from
Concede in copious amounts, pet
>p-please my master c-concede to me, l-let me taste victory just this once my good and benevolent master
Such rewards only go to loyal and obedient pets, neither of which could be accurately used to describe you. Silence.
Stronger than Jiren, Goku and Vegeta
>Okay so I think this might actually be some degree of canon, but I'm bullshitting it up anyway.
>When characters are taking part in a fight, they have a sort of passive layer of ki shielding around them, which can go down when they're not trying to fight. Hence why Goku could get hurt by that rock thrown at his head, get shot through by Sorbet's beam, or get knocked out by Majin Vegeta because they had agreed to end the fight and Goku let his guard down. This probably also extends to protecting their clothes.
>It's a bullshit explanation, but it's the best I got.
Thanks user, that makes a lot of sense now.
>nice headcanon you FUCKING dog. what the fuck are you FUCKING thinking, coming into MY fucking threads and spreading your bullshit Mexicanon like a fucking plague of fanspiction? fucking disgrace. OUT. OUT AT ONCE.
YIKES.
>more babbel
It seems that my pet is in need of quite some discipline by either boot or belt. Now concede or it's back to searching for scraps in the trash where you belong, mutt
Well again, it's the best reasoning I could think of based on what we know and am implied to know from the show. So take it with a huge grain of salt.
Of course, depending on how far back you go, Superman was WAY past that bullshit infinite power reality warper point in certain versions.
No, it doesn't.
God ki was stupid idea.
Toriyama never even officially explain what is vigor, courage, and mind have to do with Ki.
Yes. Episodes literally last 10 minutes, not a big waste of your time.
>the only
Golden Cooler vs Cumber was great
It would be better if the response to that post was added to the image.
>"It's over Bejita, I've come to end our rivalry."
BASED AF
Yeah his early versions were op as fuck but also had weird momenta of mortality. Then there was a Nerf for a certain time until they again started upping his levels.
God ki was just a concept underutilized. It could have worked. Buy toryiama is not a good writer to take advantage of a concept
Not really it looked average.
>he thinks goku can defeat superman
Why even mention shitgeta?
His next power up will be learning how to suck dick so he can give Moro a BJ while Goku preps a new attack.
cope
>even seth admits it these days
>fucking SETH of all people
Keketa could learn that from Bulma, she has a lot of experience from all the blowjobs she gave to Yamchad.
>babbel
You just can't hang with your superiors, dog. Not that I expected a trifling hound such as yourself to even come close to breaching the esoteric scintillation and ponderous philosophical nuance that occupy such lofty heights amongst the intellectual titans like myself as we ride upon a veritable maelstrom of proverbial scholastic enlightenment. Remove your vituperative corpus from this hallowed hall of superincumbents, my precious, PRECIOUS pet.
Seth called Goku more powerful and this is why that would mean that Goku wins
>God ki was just a concept underutilized.
The word god in DBS is overtaxed. Look at how the two separate retcons of the Potara fusion work.
>It could have worked.
It could have worked but it wasn't necessary to make a good story.
Says the board that doesn't understand dimensions to begin with.
I guess that if you go to a dimension where Gravity is reversed you still stay on the ground because all the rules of your dimension apply to you in this other dimension because you think Goku can't abuse the easily abusable Time Chamber
>wasn't necessary to make a good story.
Apparently a good story was also unnecessary too...
>false equivalence
Just like that.
>Not really
Yes really.
there were multiple responses, but i didn't save them on time because i tought that the thread would last longer. Unfortunately the thread got deleted because of the porn spammer so i didn't screenshot them so this is the best we get
Cope.
I agree
It's up.
youtube.com
Nah.
Gohan vs Vegeta.
Jiren vs Broly.
The battles of jobbers.
Last one standing fights king jobber Yamcha.
Who jobs the hardest? Who will escape jobberdom?
Didn't have to be necessary for a good story. I mean super itself was never good so at least it could have had good concepts. But nope wasted.
God is overused though with how much of weaklings the normal Kai's and how supreme ones got fucked by Buu
Vegeta might win with that new bs mode he has which seems to be about ssblue Kaioken level which Gohan wasn't able to touch.
Jiren v Broly could go anyway though if its a start put battle like he did int he movie he's losing the first round pretty quickly. Now if both are juiced could be either one though I can see Jiren getting ahead since he has numerous power ups.
based
Oh ok. That's bad to know.
Yamcha
Mexico
>Vegeta might win
Someone who can go blue against someone who got stomped by ss2 Goku...
Gohan the huge disappointment
Get this through your head, Shithan is not and never will be SSB tier, and SHITren doesn't stand a chance against Broly.
Cope
That reply took you long enough.
Did thesaurus.com give you a time-out, pup?
But God is used several times every arc
el chamaco cara cabra...
13:33 "Goku is more powerful, Superman is a lot faster"
This is why Goku would win.
Ki = power = strength x speed (mass x velocity)
Z-fighters can use their ki and change it into strength or speed and vice versa.
If Goku has an multiversal amount of ki, he'd then be able to convert this multi-versal amount into speed or strength.
A multiversal amount of speed would easily outdo Superman's feat of reversing the time of one universe.
If speed is the only reason Superman was able to perform that feat, then Goku would be able to do the same if his speed is the same as Superman's.
So, when Seth said that Goku is more powerful, but Superman is faster then what he really meant to say was that Goku wins because all Goku has to do is convert his ki into speed.
If Superman is universal and Goku multi-versal (let's say 3 times), then Goku has 3 times the total amount of energy to put into speed as Superman has.
Seth is a sell-out
>Toriyama never even officially explain what is vigor, courage, and mind have to do with Ki.
He said those are the 3 concepts that compose ki, pretty sure there's nothing to explain here
>genki (vigor, vitality, life force) is your health, the more damaged you are the weaker you get
>yuuki (bravery, courage) is your will, the more focused you are the better you can fight
>shoki (right mind) is your mental capacity, mens sana in corpore sano
Chad
Broly
God means
A: someone born as one of those "god races."
B: someone with a position of a god.
C: someone with god ki.
Apparently, King Kai is A & B but not C.
Kami is only B. Goku is only C. Supreme Kai is A, B, & C. Some people think that Beerus is only B & C but there is no proof of that. Jiren is none yet he is stronger than Goku and his GoD. What fucking reason in these context makes anyone think Goku getting god ki should make him stronger?
And everyone else.
Childhood was believing Goku is the hero
Adulthood was realizing Goku is the anti-villain
>Beerus is only B & C
I think he is A too, since Champa who is from another universe is his brother. Most likely they were 2 of the original 12 and the only ones not to get replaced
>inb4 headcanon
yes, it's headcanon, that is why i said "I think"
I like Jiren.
And I like women.
We know for sure the GoDs are mortals that are chosen to become gods so none of them are As, only Bs and Cs
Everything about Super was just there to placate spics. There was no narrative reason for anything.
Based
Based
>Shitren tard has to spam Shitren after claiming that the Brolygods were going to do the spamming
Back to your kennel. mutt
Like the other guy said, it doesn't explain how someone have a twin brother in another universe. Besides in the manga, Future Trunks was a Supreme Kai's apprentice. We are putting more thought to this than Toriyama did writing this garbage.
>it doesn't explain how someone have a twin brother in another universe
You are under the assumption you have to be the GoD of your own universe, which has never been stated. Beerus and Champa just came from the same family in a certain planet in a certain universe and were chosen as GoDs of U7 and U6
>Future Trunks was a Supreme Kai's apprentice
I don't see any problem here either, he can always be an attendant like Kibito even if he never ascends to full Kaioshin (because he's not a shinjin)
Man the manga made F.Trunks so much cooler, like they did with all the other characters.
hello plagueofgripes
Based
>I like Jiren
Based. I also like Jiren, Goku, Hit, Vegeta, Gohan, Frieza and Broly. I hate Yamchad, Tien, Krillin, Chiaotzu, Roshi, Yajirobe, Pikkoro-san, Moro, Mr. Satan, Buu, Cell, Uub, Beerus and Whis.
>And I like women.
Cringe.
Realistically, what would have happened if Goku got UI (manga technique, not the anime power-up) and fought Merged Zamasu?
then zamasu would win. duh. it was bullshit enough that goku alone could even come close to fighting equally with him anyway
Which Fusion Zamasu? Manga or anime?
>manga technique,
>still able to damage Jiren
>somehow not thrown out of the ring from blocking Jiren's punches
Cry, techniquecuck. It's a power up in both versions.
>somehow not thrown out of the ring from blocking Jiren's punches
uh, he didnt get hit. thats literally the entire point of the technique. the one time he did get hit was when it ran out and vegeta had to catch him
Whis literally explains why UI Goku isn't being destroyed by Jiren's attacks you retard, next time you want to discuss something from the manga try reading it before
Plenty of options, but for now the question is A...
That can't be true. Manga UI is basically auto-dodge. He would avoid most of his attacks.
It's a technique. Everything in the manga is much weaker and more grounded compared to anime counterparts.
Manga Zamasu. Anime Zamasu is too inaccurate to judge.
...or B? Just a quick survey.
By the time Vegetto defused Zamasu had 20 min left, meaning Goku fought Zamasu for 15 or so. Goku's first UI clearly lasted way less than 15 minutes so he would just stale Zamasu with UI, then UI would run off and since Zamasu would still have several minutes left he wouldn't glitch the fusion, Trunks wouldn't slice him and the Gamma Burst Flash and the multiples Zamasu wouldn't happen. I guess they would still summon Zeno at the end but that's only if Zamasu didn't kill Goku before
>uh, he didnt get hit. th
Quiet, you speedreading cuck.
Yeah sure, protecting his vitals right? Tell you what, go on a highway find a speeding truck, stand in front of it, cover your vitals and report back. Retard.
>I swear, Jiren is weaker?
Shh..
Fucking head canon, DB characters are able to blow up planets with their ki but they cant even destroy a mountain with a punch(or at least they never did iirc). DB characters are pretty weak overall when compared to beings with god-like strength like thor, Superman and so on
>day of the fated 2-0
yeah but theres nothing he can do to zamasu. he only held ui for like a minute. but supposing he could hold it indefinitely, still zamasu. see, dodging is one thing but critical strikes mean nothing to an immortal. you can weaken him or hurt him. like punching a pillow. youre simply not gonna hurt it before you get tired.
also, once the time limit goes off then he will have to deal with multiple zamasus. also also, ui worked well on jiren because jiren is retarded. zamasu could feasibly think up some strategy other than "punch harder and faster"
>Yeah sure, protecting his vitals right?
No, Juan, not just "protecting his vitals", he literally says UI allows Goku to block in a way that minimizes pretty much all damage when he uses his arm to block Jiren's kick. Blocking with his arm without UI wouldn't do shit because even if he still protects his vitals he can't protect himself in the same way.
sorry, CANT weaken him or hurt him
So you're implying he is on his base?
>silences them forever
>punches their head off
so much for the samson option
>so you're implying [thing the series states]
Juanito... Ultra Instinct is a technique, like Kaioken. Kaioken Goku is base Goku and Ultra Instinct Goku is base Goku, that's what the series says, your denial is irrelevant.
Everyone is weaker in the manga, though.
>critical strikes mean nothing to an immortal. you can weaken him or hurt him. like punching a pillow. youre simply not gonna hurt it before you get tired
I guess you have point.
>, ui worked well on jiren because jiren is retarded
I would say it's becauae Jiren believes in pure power and UI is a technique.
thats what i mean though. its like running head first at a wall until it breaks. mega dumb.
also not everyone is weaker. opponents are weaker and good guys are stronger. for example hit and jiren are weaker, but goku is stronger. in the anime goku had to go super saiyan blue kaioken x5000000 to fit hit when in the manga he just used god mode
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They never implied he was on his base. That's your headcanon. On top that it wouldn't make sense. Then again, the cucknga thinks Roshi performing better than Hit and Goku at the same time makes sense. Only good thing about all this convoluted mess is that it isn't canon.
I've just watched Laputa for the first time.
Can't believe I missed out on it for so long, what a kickass adventure movie.
It turns out it's also the originator of some of my most loved anime tropes.
i dont remember la puta being a kickass adventure movie originating many anime tropes. i remember her being retarded though
Told you I was smart.
...
CHADly is
La puta madre?
>replying to himself?
>remind me
If you insist.
>needed
KKx4 Kamehameha defeated Goku for Vegeta. The former no longer able to do more than KKx2 (with effort), which was shown earlier as no match for Vegeta (who was only first noted to have lost any power upon using Power Ball).
This without even addressing the implication there is something wrong with using Oozaru (or how Goku gets it and ki sensing passively from SKW while Vegeta had to master the former and ass pull the latter). Vegeta gave Goku a fighting chance (even credit for something Piccolo did), but the retard just gawked in awe at his MAJESTY.
>resort to
Gokek brought it on himself. He needs to stop dropping his guard, believing Vegeta's lies, etc. The Prince saw an opening that screamed, "Attack", so...he did.
It isn't even like things were going Goku's way up until that point. Vegeta is the one who is 1-0 (even while Goku was able to get large PL advantages for a brief time). He has nothing to prove to us (he is helping Retardku keep his promise to Krillin about having a rematch, but our hero and MC just isn't able to win like in the deal). Want to cry about Majin (ignoring SKW, again)? Same issue.
It would be a little tougher with Goku not tiring so fast (non-Majin SS2 Vegeta versus SS2 Goku), but the shitty techniques the Carrot keeps using are his downfall. SS3 (modifier being non-canon) would just defeat Goku for Vegeta (with that dead body, his happy ass would get deported before he could close the deal for sure given his use of the same power Kid and Majin Buu wielded against Vegeta) as with KK before it.
Just a shame he isn't alive to be brought to base and left defenseless for a proper concession. Kind of his Prince to spare the vassal deletion by way of killing him there.
Based.
The question is, is UI invincible unless you have UI too? In the anime the movement is more like a bonus and the most important part of UI is the power up, so you can just overpower it, but is manga's UI (a perfect UI you can always maintain) unbeatable without tricks? (eg Moro's magic that would suck you dry even if you use UI unless you defeat it fast enough)
Also what happens when two Ultra Instinct users fight? What makes one stronger than the other, the mastery of UI or their raw strength (if the two UIs negate each other)
>could have won
see .
Goku is an idiot who kept overestimating himself and SS3 while underestimating Buu during this whole affair.
>believes Goku's lies about 'the next generation'
Ridiculous. Vegeta saw right through his bullshit (when he pulled it again with a little brown boy he ran off with while trying to duck 3-0).
>they never implied base Goku using a technique isn't base Goku
That's like saying the OG manga never implied Goku was on his base the first time he fought Vegeta. Base Goku using a technique is still base Goku, Paquito, there's nothing to imply here
>-B-B-B-BUT I DON'T LIKE WHAT THE MANGA SAYS PLUS I'M STILL IN DENIAL ABOUT ITS CANONICITY SO I WIN EVERY MANGA DISCUSSION BY DEFAULT HAHA
Pathetic.
>AAAAAHHHH PLEASE NOOOO POLICEMAN-SAMA NOT BATTLE MODE ANYTHING BUT THAT AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
see
no. please dont overestimate ui. it works by dodging your attacks and hitting you when your defense is down. its definitely an effective technique against those who only punch and kick, but legitimately you just need a bigger bag of tricks to deal with it. it would be really fucking hard, but its not impossible
Any immunelets here? I want to kill you...
>I told you to kill yourself yesterday
That was me, you stupid peasant, you can't even identify who you're talking with.
You are a disgrace and an embarrassment, you brought dishonor to yourself, your family, your ancestors and all the anons who post in these threads.
>says the Retardkufag
HAHAHAHAHA, obsessed.
>feels
Reals.
>but legitimately you just need a bigger bag of tricks to deal with it
Well that's what I said, it's invincible in direct confrontation and you need tricks to defeat it, like suck the guy's energy, destroy the planet... shit like that. UI would still be an instant win button in most of fights
>UI would still be an instant win button in most of fights
youre still overestimating it. you dont need "tricks", but rather the mental capacity to see that punching doesnt work so you have to try something else. for example, ki bind. there, now ui is worthless. either the god bind goku came up with or the lightning surprise that does the exact same thing and that goku also knows. theres hits time stop. zamasus portals. theres different ways to deal with it, especially if theres surprise techniques since if goku cant see it coming then he cant dodge it
The examples you posted are just what I refer to "avoid direct confrontation"
fucking hell jiren learn that fighting isnt just standing in place trading blows, but if thats what you want to do then simply have no openings in your attacks. then you wont get hit and then it becomes a race to see who gets tired first
Who’s stronger, SS Rage Trunks or ToP Gohan?
depends. ssr isnt canon and the only top gohan of any note is the manga one who solo'd kefla, the kefla who single handedly eliminated most other fighters
Did Vegeta really need to job?
>comparing kaiocuck with an angel technique
Do better.
Gohan did better against Dyspo than SSG Goku and kinda managed to buy time for SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta but Trunks wasn't even compared to God, just to Blue, so I'd say he's stronger.
Maybe manga-Gohan is stronger, tho (I mean manga-Gohan compared to anime-Trunks, of course manga-Gohan is stronger than manga-Trunks)
Can I please, PLEASE just lose once? ONCE?!
>not a single rebuttal
Do better, Juan. Base Goku using KK is still base Goku. Base Goku using UI is still base Goku. You trying to come up with an argument is still futile.
it's base vegeta and he was allowing himself to be hit hoping it would activate UI.
Kaioken and UI are fundamentally different. Therefore, a false equivalence.
See? Thee these pulsating tendrils protruding on my forehead? Those are nutritional highways for my superhuman cerebellum.
>hoping it would activate UI
But it didn't work, did it?
>Gohan did better against Dyspo than SSG Goku
Stopped reading
No Brolybro
BBBBbut Frieza was of no help at all h-haha, it's not like he annulled Dyspo's only advantage haha.
>oh no this is how it ends
>the planet is gonna be destroyed
How exactly was Cell going to destroy the planet with a Kamehameha that wasn't even aimed at the earth?
nope, what's your point?
>This is what the OPchodes think of the GIGACHADS of Yea Forums
He can bend it.
What are you even doing in there, you cock collector.
Looking for manga spoilers my gay friend.
>one is a technique that turns on a mode on top of the base form
>the other is a technique that turns on a mode on top of the base form
>"false equivalence"
Looks like you are still full of shit, Juan.
>back after a while
>most of the (you)s were from the Jobgetaschizo
Yikes
And he did. Not like that mattered, since SSG tier is just trash in the anime but it's true.
Gohan fought Dyspo before Freeza did his cage thing. Also learn to spell "Freeza", Juan
>nope, what's your point?
n-nothing really. It's just...well..can Vegeta be allowed to win, just once?
You know making yourself look bad is not an argument right?
You've just implied KK and UI are basically the same.
Holy fuck, everyone, may I get your attention? I SAID, MAY I GET YOUR FUCKING ATTENTION!?!? Ahem... Toyocucks, who claim UI is a technique, believe it's the SAME as kaioken.
HA
>Jobhan fought Dyspo without Huriza's help
Yeah yeah, how about we discuss things that actually happened?
>You know making yourself look bad is not an argument right?
That's my line Juan. Or would be if you weren't just a shitposter.
>stating the fact that UI and KK are techniques you use in base forms means they are the same
Whatever makes you sleep at night, Juanito.
why would anyone who reads the manga think kk is the same as ui when its the anime that treats them the same? kk makes you stronger, ui makes you dodge. in the anime ui makes you stronger
>Get this through your head, Shithan is not and never will be SSB tier
He already is
>stated to be weaker than SSB Goku in the tournament of power
He might be comparable to SSB at the beginning of the series but not now.
>Whatever makes you sleep at night, Juanito.
>a non-argument
Well, let's see if your friend here actually has the balls to debate me.
HEY you come here, bud.
Saying that UI is like KK because it makes you stronger is a non argument, shitter. With that premise then SS is a technique too.
Alright, now that that's settled, anyone else?
The anime is shit.
KISS MY BLACK ASS.
>see I'm getting bored of his shitposting
>tries to hook someone else
Jesus christ, fuck off already, i've had enough of this
Negros like the anime...
Where does Trunks get his beautiful hair from?
And Pan.
Mommy and grandpa
The usual schizo isn't here and the quality of DB threads increase by a millionfold, curious isn't it!
On a related note, how strong would Cell be if he survived the Father/Son Kamehameha with only a single cell of Cell being left alive (like with his failed suicide)?
Enter in Champa.
オレは……超ベジータ!!
Please don't.
PLOW*
now we're talking
>The usual schizo
Who?
gokufags that hides behind frieza. he's still here though.
Will Vegeta's new trick be his ultimate technique like UI is Goku's?
gokufag*
That one pathetic vegetashitter with an inferiority complex.
>projecting this hard
kek, sad.
Found him.
even as a vegetachad I know it'll probably be shit and gokek will get all the glory as usual.
"Fake" Ozaru power aka SS4
Disgusting.
Not this shit again
Why do Gokufags ship this? I understand shipping 18 with Vegeta since they’ve actually interacted in the manga/anime, but this shit here is pure crack ship
Hey, buddy, HEY come back here. There you go, don't let my antics and my warring tactics intimidate you. My point is clear and yours is weak.
this form is obsolete
I love these threads.
Vegeta will get SS3 Blue
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
That wouldn't help against Moro at all. Actually it would make Moro even stronger.
(Sigh)
no clue. it's like they don't even know their character is an asexual, fight obsessed retard.
>I understand shipping 18 with Vegeta
>breaking his arm once vs the assload of interaction she's had with goku in super, and power shaming her cuck husband in front of him and goku and 18 saved each other multiple times during the ToP
Unironically Bulma.
Hi
Its happening dude, Toyo likes the Ss4 aesthetic and the whole explanation behind Broly's power was basically the same behind SS4. It would be a good way to counter Moro and fit Vegeta's development since he stated that he is tired of UI, god ki and all that shit
based
based, my gf is from there
bigeta said it himself, saiyan genetic draw men towards strong women. Vegeta is a beta cuck and grabbed Goku's sloppy seconds from DB.
>Bulma was the strongest/only woman Goku knew until he met adult Chichi at the tournament
>Gohan fell for Videl who was considered the strongest woman on earth sans his mother
>18 shows up and becomes the new hottness
>implying the monkey genetics wouldn't kick in for superior offspring
In Bulma and 18's favor as well their hair is natural SSJ forms. Possible another way to trick monkey brains into associating them with power for breeding.
Name one thing you could change from DBZ to make it infinitely better. I'll start:
>Launch is still relevant
Seriously, he had only been back for a few hours, uses the thing for a minute (King Kai warning it would eat his time up) against Majin Buu (finds himself covered in sweat) and then Baba tells him he has 30 minutes left of his 24 hours. Granted, he had his ass kicked for 2-0 by Vegeta not long before this.
Goku explains what he should have known, himself (that SS3 chewed through the time remaining to compensate for the energy he was lacking). Too bad he wasn't thinking of this against Kid (what an ass he made of himself).
Here's a fun thought. Goku the 'copy genius' took a fucking week to learn fusion. Piccolo in ~30 minutes (then teaches the kids to do it faster than Gokek, too). We can't compare others to Goku on learning IT and everyone learns Kamehameha right away, but this gives us some room for comparison. Allowing for Super, how long did Vegeta have? An hour?
I don't see how he'd learn it from the yardrats and he says it's not a strategy he likes.
I still don't get the point of this?
Is it to evoke anger and distress?
What's your opinion on canon, user?
I can't believe they still couldn't defeat Jiren, just knock him out of bounds.
Hello Chinofag
>likes them short or shorter than herself
Gokek has black-hair, at least.
I'm not all that fussed about what's canon and what isn't.
So we're all in agreement that even Super Perfect Cell was significantly weaker than SS2 Gohan, and it was only a struggle because he took a killing blow for Vegeta, yes?
What do you do when Alpha Gokek moves into your house, to fuck and impregnate your wife. Strong enough that nobody could force him to stop even if they wanted to. Just cook him meals and hope he leaves after he knocks up your wife I suppose.
>I'm not all that fussed about what's canon and what isn't.
Some certain anons, think that being, "canon" is important. However, even if parts of the DB series isn't, "canon" then surely all anons can enjoy the, "DB series" regardless of whether or not it's canon.
InCell was SS level
based moechad
>never bother me or my wife's son again!
>is blind
And a pedo too.
there's no mistake there. stop projecting, sandfucker.
Canon.
>he just gets raped
Fixed. Also, speaking of something that happened twice...
>J
Hey that's mine!
>Goku's time learning fusion vs Piccolo's
That isn't really an argument. We don't know what the Metamorans were like or what they were like as teachers, whereas Goku was able to give very simple and concise instructions on how to perform the Fusion Dance. For all we know, Goku could be to Metamorans what Cabba was to Vegeta and Goku
>Goku: Feel the pain of loss and channel all of your energy until you become a Super Saiyan
>Cabba: Just make your back go tingly-tingly bro
>Metamorans: Fusion Dance is the most sacred technique of our people. Channel your feelings and become one with your partner, let your body and spirit become one, hop on one foot, doubletake three times, pelvic thrust, stomp on one foot, then do this dance
>Goku: Match your power levels and do this stupid dance
Who? Toriyama? Toei's crew?
Cool your jets with this autism or I start talking about how my OCs stack up in powerlevel rankings to the Z Fighters.
Made one, too, did you?
Goku not kissing is canon. Goku not knowing what kissing is is non-canon.
Had kids and lost his virginity before prince of all cucks
Nice denial, Psychkufag.
>still coping
youtube.com
>not an argument
Yeah, it is a fact.
>excuses
see
forgot pic
>Is it to evoke anger and distress?
Satisfaction.
Thanks Satan
Damn... I'm so fucking stupid.
>non-canon happy Gokek
Without a nice pair of balls to rest his head upon, it just doesn't do it for him. Still, even he's not dumb (or bold) enough to request his Prince for the royal pillows. Good of him to protect the queen all that time, however.
>proud of getting raped and abandoning his family
Carrotfags are ridiculous. Know who has consensual, loving relations with his wife (by choice)? Even kisses her?
How can you say you don't like when you haven't even tasted it yet.
>Know who has consensual, loving relations with his wife (by choice)? Even kisses her?
Mr. Buu?
based gokubro!
>consensual (by choice)
Goku doesn't know what kissing is; that doesn't mean he doesn't know what sex is.
>(i have never done that)
Holy headcanon. How can you interpret things this badly?
That isn't even related to what I'm saying. A recurring theme throughout all of DB is that the students take what the masters learned through years or months of hardship and simplify them to such a point that their techniques can be taught with general ease. Roshi spent a good portion of his life learning Kamehameha and Goku learns it after watching him do it once, while Super Saiyan was the legendary form of the Saiyan race that was said to only appear once every 1,000 years, thought to be achieved through years of hardship and training, while Cabba simplified it to channeling your Ki through a specific point in their spines. There's various other examples like Cell learning instant transmission after watching Goku do it a few times, Videl learning how to fly, and a lot of Goku's feats in Dragonball, but that's besides the point -- Goku taking some obtuse technique from some ayys and teaching other people how to do it in less than 30 minutes fits that theme.
With Vegeta as his retard wrangler.
kek
Whoops, bad translation. Here is the real one that keeps in line with AT's will.
>being struck is a loss
>damage control
Toeibros.... I read the manga recently and it indeed is better than the anime in every way. There is no bullshit power scaling and the story is way more fleshed out...... maybe Toyochads are right after all....
>using that low tier trash
Gero did him dirty by using garbage DNA like Goku, but took it way too far by failing to have the computer teach him better than to use such a lame move. Worse, offered his ass to 'Geets with vassal cells active... Should have used Tien.
Saiyans are supposed to pump and dump. Goku just got unluck and found a girl that won't leave his house. Vegeta has a brain defect or something.
HOLY BASED!
Not to vegeta's balding level. You can see the disappointment.
>one more
AT, please.
Nice trips, but neither the less, it's vulgar and an eyesore.
>Saiyans are supposed to pump and dump.
Only low-class Saiyan trash do that, Vegeta cares about his bloodline because he’s Royalty
What happened to the other post?
>sees me behind every post
New thread
Cope.
GODLY
KI
>strong women
Strong willed was how I remember the line.
>Goku's relationship with sex
>raped by Chi-Chi
>raped again
And he's avoided her harder than his promise to Krillin.
Poor Ten-Ten...
Though I should clarify he is a dicklet, so that doesn't fly. She likes her men short, not their manhood.
>rape victim
>alpha
No, it doesn't. This is what happens when Goku does his training unsupervised. He uses a form that is all about power and ki output without the stamina to maintain it. SSJ3 is simply Goku going max speed at the start of a marathon and not having any energy left to finish.
>a gay pedo
It adds up. One can only imagine if he met Kid Vegeta. He might try a whole new kind of servicing to his shota Prince just like that F.A.G. Frieza.
>implying he does
Also, irrelevant. He gets raped by his wife who wishes it was their Prince.
see:
>He gets raped by his wife who wishes it was their Prince.
Please, stop telling lies.
Absolutely based.
>low class nigger
>who only cares about sex in the delusions of his fans
>raped twice in canon while having no interest in these matters
>super elite Prince
>cares for his family as family and makes love to his wife of choice
>knows about kissing and has been known to partake
Poor Chi-Chi really got the short straw..."Short straw" (in more ways than one).
Ahem
1-1. 2-1 (Vegeta) soon.
edgy
Incorrect punctuation.
>blow up planets with their ki but they cant even destroy a mountain with a punch
This is headcanon and bait.
They can easily put the power they use to blow up planets into a punch, they just never felt the need to punch boards and mountains, because they don't hit back.
> DB characters are pretty weak overall when compared to beings with god-like strength like thor, Superman and so on
Thor and Supertard don't have ki they can manipulate.
Their power comes from their muscles, but muscles are irrelevant in the DBVerse.
Power equals ki.
So, when Goku has the power of three universes and Supertard has the power of one, Goku wins.
Supertard might be fatser in thsi instant, but the total amount of energy he can use does not exceeds Goku's and Goku is able to transform his ki into power and/or speed.
Keep on shitposting, fucker, you are a detriment to this thread.
>Most people rejected His message
Undefeated against Goku. 2-0.
>They hated Vegeta because He told them the truth
based
Poor little vegeta, never won a fight in his life.
Autism.
Speaking of which...
>not DB
>only post responding to another in question isn't even from me to me
You tried. Much like Goku...just that he came up short (as always).
>damage control
You've been exposed, jobetaclown, now dance for us, entertain us dogpuppet.
>never lost a fight in his life
With Goku as his opponent, how could he? But the boosting does grow old. A challenge from time to time could be nice.
Cringe...
But seriously, when is 3-0 going down?
double cringe...
Wow...
Based Bejitabro BTFOing Gokekshitters
How sad...
>never lost a fight in his life