2019...I am forgotten

I dropped this years ago. Did Sinbad end up becoming an antagonist? Did Morgianna end up doing anything at all? Did yellow hair guy (forgot his name) end up becoming powerful?

Google is your friend

>I am forgotten
never got this meme

That's a lot of Lemons holy shit.

shitposting meme

So did Alladin and Kogyoku actually became a thing or what?

see

In the last thing Othaka uploaded of Magi, Aladdin stills acts like a beta to Kougyoku so no.

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>Did Sinbad end up becoming an antagonist?
Yes
>Did Morgianna end up doing anything at all?
She became Alibaba's cumdump
>Did yellow hair guy (forgot his name) end up becoming powerful?
Yes and powerlevels got way out of hand

>tfw AliKogyo shipper
they have so much chemistry to each other

I blame Sinbad wanking.

I don't think there's a single person who wouldn't blame the drop in quality partially to Sinbad becoming the load of the series.

that's because it was shit.

Wait, is this recent? i don't remember this

Kinda, from Othaka's website some months ago.

Huh, i thought she would only focus in Orient now

YOU FUCKING Yea ForumsTARDS REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING DOESN'T HAVE CONSTANT THREADS DOESN'T MEAN IT'S FORGOTTEN.
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You shouldn’t let shitposters get to you user

I kinda miss Magi threads, is Orient any good? haven't had time to read it yet

magi threads were shit, the fan base here was cancerous like most shonen series

Well yeah, but which threads aren't shit anyways

>Alladin is the one who freed Morg and did so much for her at the start of the story.
>Morg : "Alibaba-san! I love you too!"
>Alibaba became Kogyoku's closest friend, and is the first to do so onscreen. She's also in really bad terms with Alladin.
>Alladin : "K-Kogyoku-san, does that mean y-you like me over Alibaba!" *sounds of spaghetti spilling in the background*
But why?

I would act like a beta too if a cute girl asks me something as retarded as making her into a 2 meters machoman while begging and crying.

Show was better when it was having lighthearted comedy hijinks than when having a serious plot

hope Orient gets a better studio then A-1

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the first arc featured slavery so it had a "serious plot" from jump

i dropped the manga at the end of the balbad arc. does it get better? morgianna is one of the worst case of mary sues ive ever encountered, its so offputting.

Don't expect anyway decent analysis from Yea Forums

>i dropped the manga at the end of the balbad arc.
Yes, you dropped it before arguably the best arc in the series and you have no idea what a mary sue is until you're read the Sinbad prequel manga, or even late game Magi.

Kek the kid that was all over boobs falls for a flat girl, how ironic

God, the sinbad wank was awful, what tf was othaka thinking?

Seething

>Mary Sue
Why is it when I encounter this word it’s being used an someone stupid?

lots of right wingers started using it when the new SW movies came out

What's wrong with sinbad?

Nothing, people are just stupid and for some reason didn’t expect him to be an antagonist.

>tfw have known the word since mid-2000s because of fanfic circles
>now it's apparently a sexist slur

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Wasn’t that foreshadowed to hell and back?

It ended, what the fuck else do you want to happen ?

See It’s just a shitpost

Let them be retards, this is Yea Forums.
Zoomers don't get nuance.

Yeah.

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I don't get how anyone could not see it coming.

but "I am forgottent" its a Yea Forums meme, isnt it?

Which studio do you want?

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You don't udnerstand, Sinbad is literally the chosen one, a singularity. Everyone agrees with him in the end even if he's wrong, rude, or just plain stupid. In his own prequel he lectures other national rulers about how shit they are despite him having no plan for succesful rule himself, then he beats them up and suddenly everything gets better. Even when he becomes the full blown antagonist and threatens reality itself he still gets off scott free and even put back into the cycle of reincarnation with all his perks intact.

He is an actual Gary stu in the context of the story.

The problem is that he's Ohtaka's pet character and she isn't subtle about it.

Him being a blatant gary stu and author's pet.

>You don't udnerstand, Sinbad is literally the chosen one, a singularity
and if you paid attention you would have realized that meant nothing in the end.

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>Everyone agrees with him in the end even if he's wrong, rude, or just plain stupid
Lies

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>Chapter 320 Jafar (his right-hand man) tears into him

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>main character doesn't get baited into this
My mistake, only a handful of people in all of creation don't buy his nonsense.

It's not that it meant nothing, it's that he's basically just another cog in the machine and they could use that to get him to realize the futility in his own actions. Singularities still have the ability to eventually fuck over an entire plane of existence.

>In his own prequel he lectures other national rulers about how shit they
>despite him having no plan for succesful rule himself,
? He asks them to form alliance when him to stops war and forms his own country.

>Morgiana
>Mary Sue
Retards like you should get lobotomised.

What about the people living in the mountains whose leader had the lance metal vessel? Isolated population whose only benefit was a trading route for Sinbad but otherwise they had nothing to do with anyone else. It was all for his own benefit at that point and he at least threatened however insincere to destroy the whole place because he's just better than their leader in combat. A lot of his early alliances are with incredibly niche groups that didn't interact with the world at large.

Fantastic read. One of my top 3 shonen. Arba is the ultimate perfect girl.

>then he beats them up and suddenly everything gets better.
He was the first metal vessel user and Sinbad loses plenty of times as well. A major part of his backstory involves the first version of his country getting destroyed and becoming a slave.

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>Even when he becomes the full blown antagonist and threatens reality itself he still gets off scott free
>he still gets off scott free
No he doesn't, he's not even with everyone else in the ending, no one knows where he is. Also Sinbad came to his senses towards and had noble intentions he wasn't pure evil, like most antagonists in this Cassim, Mogamett etc.

I'll be honest. I was enjoying it a lot but the last arc bored me to tears and I ended up not giving a shit about Simbad. I also felt Ohtaka kind of missed a golden chance to pair Kougyoku and Alibaba together, his thing with Morgana felt forced and too cliché. So aside from a couple of outstanding moments the manga's just one big blur in my mind now.

>My mistake, only a handful of people
Moving the goal post?

>it's that he's basically just another cog in the machine
Not nothing special, ok.

No one was mad at the fact that Sinbad became an antagonist, you braindead mongs. The salt came from how poorly it was executed.

>We need Aladdin and his Solomon's Wisdom in order to get to the Sacred Palace
>lmao actually no we don't we'll just use this convenient plot device so no worries
>Actually wait you should know that there is literally a less than 1% chance of you surviving this and this surely isn't a cop out to give the illusion that there are stakes in this when everyone already knows the outcome lmao
>But why do you want to do all these shitty things to everyone anyway?
>I dunno guess I'm just greedy lol
The final arc of Magi was rushed to hell and back. This is happening a lot with Shounen manga nowadays and Magi fell victim to it, and Sinbad was the worst off for it. Alibaba was the only one I still gave a shit about.

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I remember picking this up only to jerk off to the redhead's feet and then I dropped it on episode 8 or so

>English translation is only up to chapter 38
Wow. Good that Russian translation is up to the latest chapter.

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>The final arc of Magi was rushed to hell and back.
user..... Magi was axed. Sunday's editor in chief at the time decided to axe most long running manga, including Kenichi, Magi, and Hayate. This is why they all had abrupt final arcs. This is why Ohtaka moved to Magazine.

>What about the people living in the mountains whose leader had the lance metal vessel?
He couldn't even do a full djinn equip

>Isolated population
Are you implying the isolated countries can't be attacked? Cause that's wrong.

>It was all for his own benefit
Not really, no one could go to war him those countries because of their ties to Sinbad. Saving them from people like the Kou empire.

>no one knows where he is
Uvo sends him back to be reincarnated.
>Moving the goal post?
Nope, I used hyperbole, I was wrong to do so. I am amending my statement, he is able to get virtually every single person in reality save a small handful of people including the main character to agree with him and only them because they are equally unique existences within reality.
>Not nothing special, ok.
They are special, unless you don't see unique existences as special because they are fated to happen?

Him being put in slavery was probably the high water mark of his spinoff. But it still doesn't really take away from what his character is consistently treated and portrayed.

Don't be in a thread for another low-rate shonen only good for waifubait then.

Sunday's current editor came in around Spring 2015. Magi ended in Fall 2017, over 2 years later. It wasn't axed.

>Uvo sends him back to be reincarnated.
That's was before the final battle and regardless pretty much everyone gets reincarnated in this setting.

>he is able to get virtually every single person in reality save a small handful of people including the main character to agree with him an
Again wrong, unless you're talking about the brainwashing which doesn't help your point. Since he forced them to listen to him.

>They are special,
See

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>I dunno guess I'm just greedy lol
>If a put lol after the sentence maybe if will sounds like a real argument

lucky bastard

>>Actually wait you should know that there is literally a less than 1% chance of you surviving this and this surely isn't a cop out to give the illusion that there are stakes in this when everyone already knows the outcome lmao
That was obviously there to set up how powerup Ugo was since he's basically God.

>I dunno guess I'm just greedy lol
Nothing wrong with this, the most powerful human desire, hell people IRL doomed the planet over this and it's not like it's his his sole reason.

>lmao actually no we don't we'll just use this convenient plot device so no worries
I'll give this

>Again wrong,
Not really, he's both insanely convincing before the brainwashing, but also afterwards that just solidifies his own actions as getting people to do what he wants has been his M.O since the beginning in addition to fighting people.

>See
Care to tell me why singularities aren't special existences just because something else chose them?

>He couldn't even do a full djinn equip
Right, he didn't want an alliance and Sinbad forced the issue.
>Are you implying the isolated countries can't be attacked?
No, just that that particular conquest for Sinbad had nothing to do with spreading peace it was economically motivated.
>Not really,
Yes really, I don't even remember the Kou empire being a problem at that point much less it being Sinbad's concern to resist them. I can be wrong on this one it's been years since I tried reading Sinbad's story.

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>Ichihara considers fostering the talent of new manga artists the magazine's biggest priority. Weekly Shonen Sunday, as well as Sh?nen Sunday Super, will remove some of the currently-serialized manga to make way for a succession of new faces.
>2015-08-21

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>2015-09-19

>he's portrayed like he's special and never loses
>except for all the times when not and when he gets the shit kicked out of him
Yikes

>he's both insanely convincing before the brainwashing,
Clearly not or he wouldn't have to use brainwashing.

>Care to tell me why singularities aren't special existences
The page I posted spells it out pretty clearly >Right, he didn't want an alliance and Sinbad forced the issue.
So? Now you're complaining Sinbad isn't a saint?
>Sinbad had nothing to do with spreading peace
Except Sinbad said that was the case and giving his backstory of the war in his home country it makes sense why he would want this.

>I don't even remember the Kou empire being a problem
So your argument is "there's no problem now so there will never be a problem"?

God, Arba was hot as fuck. By far my favourite female anime villain to this day.

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>Literally goes out as an example of what NOT to do
>But MUH SINBAD WANK

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>The page I posted spells it out pretty clearly
That doesn't make singularities any less unique because he's even able to survive a completely impossible odds entry into the Sacred Realm because of his godly luck. He ammassed all the influence he has in part because he's this chosen one. And he was the first metal vessel user and the only person to cap out on Djinn because of his status.

Just because people can point out that other people have a choice somehow makes his existence less outstanding? Is that your argument?

I miss it a bit but whatever. The threads on Yea Forums were absolutely dogshit so I'm glad Yea Forums forgot it.

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>That doesn't make singularities any less unique because he's even able to survive a completely impossible odds entry into the Sacred Realm because of his godly luck.
No, he's able to survive because David helped him, also most Magi characters have unique shit Alibaba's slow down reaction thing, Aladdin's Solomon Wisdom etc

>He ammassed all the influence he has in part because he's this chosen one
Not really, without Yunan he probably would have died as a nobody or that time when he was a slave if Jafar and the others didn't help him.

>the only person to cap out on Djinn because of his status.
We never found out what other peoples limits were.

>Just because people can point out that other people have a choice somehow makes his existence less outstanding? Is that your argument?

No, my argument is just like everyone else he can make mistakes and fail and he has many times. The final arc is he being wrong in his methodology and Alibaba and Aladdin trying to get him to see reason, if he was so the chosen one then it would be the other way around, just like David he let his singularity status cloud his judgement.

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When you post Aladdin looking like a snack like that, no wonder the threads about it goes to shit quick.

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Why did Ohtaka keep up the pretense that Aladdin was the MC when it was obvious to everyone that it was really Alibaba?

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if only

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But yunan helped him specifically because he felt something about him. Singularity status has insane perks.
>We never found out what other peoples limits were.
Irrelevant, he's the only person who was outright rejected by the Djinn system for further additions to his collection. Not even the best guy in the Kou empire can claim that and he had 3.
>my argument is just like everyone else he can make mistakes and fail and he has many times
That just makes him fallible, that doesn't mean that his existence isn't still demonstrated to be above others in terms of influence, power, and even potential. This is a core mechanic of the setting, people of greater potential stand above the others, king vessels, singularities, The depraved, and even magicians all play into this dynamic. But one of these still stood above the rest and it took basically the son of a previous singularity and the administrator of the current reality to stop him.

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Everything in that bitch is forgotten except for Sadpanda, Fire Force, and Death Note

>But yunan helped him specifically because he felt something about him. Singularity status has insane perks.
Yunan helped him because of his strength of character, hence when he started getting shady Yunan and Sinbad fell out of favor.

>Irrelevant, he's the only person who was outright rejected by the Djinn system
Actually quite relevant Sinbad actively went out seeking Djinns so no shit he hit the cap, the next highest is Kouen and the Kouha flashback shows us he could have had four if he wasn't rejected by that female Djinn.

>That just makes him fallible, that doesn't mean that his existence isn't still demonstrated to be above others
Except for the final arc making a case against this many times

>This is a core mechanic of the setting, people of greater potential stand above the others, king vessels, singularities, The depraved, and even magicians all play into this dynamic.
Yeah, you completely missed the point of the final arc, it completely goes against this.

>it completely goes against this.
They make it not work that way but that does not invalidate that entire society that was built on the previous rules. I'm not saying it's right that things worked that way but it's still what happened for the story.

>the next highest is Kouen and the Kouha flashback shows us he could have had four if he wasn't rejected by that female Djinn.
But 4 wasn't his cap, it was just chance that the djinn he encountered didn't favor a playboy like him. Only sinbad was ever just told "no more djinn period".

>Except for the final arc making a case against this many times
See my response above. Just because people changed the system doesn't mean that Sinbad wasn't a monolith unto himself in the context of the story. Saying that it's wrong to have singularities running around fucking stuff up is wrong isn't my problem, I agree. But saying singularities aren't special because something else chose them, or the Main Character changes the rules isn't accurate either.

So why did they cancel the anime?

Remember when A-1 tried to push the Tumblr ships?

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I forgot how gay he was.

>They make it not work that way but that does not invalidate that entire society that was built on the previous rules. I'm not saying it's right that things worked that way but it's still what happened for the story.
?

>But 4 wasn't his cap,
I didn't say it was, I'm saying he could obtain at least 4 Djinns maybe more.

>Just because people changed the system
Again you've missed the point even before the Magi system was destroyed that was the whole point of the arc hell the whole series. It's not like Aladdin and Alibaba only started to go against Sinbad's tyrannical rule after the Magi system was destroyed.

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Shut the fuck up and roll, faggots.

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I liked hakuryuu's wild ride

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Actually... my favorite battle shonen. I mean, it's definitely better than this Attack on something that's currently so popular. It has better worldbuilding and is less convoluted than HxH. Anime adaption was pretty mediocre tho.

S3 fucking when?

anyone, please?

Edgebros was edge done right.

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fuck off retard

Congrats, user, you got the Fish on first try!

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>Why can't I hold all these lemons?

I don't even know the name of 6 of those characters

God, I fucking hate waifufags and shipperplebs, can't these fuckers get laid and stop projecting on to fictional characters?

>Ohtaka too much of a chicken to make Juhaku canon

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Someone should dump chapters to drum up interest

That's gay.

probably the most thoroughly mediocre anime I've ever tried to watch

the magi fanbase on Yea Forums is cancerous fuck that

Why so casual?

Yea Forums still remembers edgy bitch though.

Then we're never going to get translations unless Kodansha USA decides to pick it up

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I know the name of hakeui whoI've gotten so it's okay
also why no arba

The point of the series was to work towards a world where there wasn't a cosmically instated system that backed specific people over others. But because those rules were in place it enabled people like David, Solomon, Sinbad, even Matel to stand above others. Learning that ruling over people like that isn't a good thing isn't the same as making the universe not operate on those same principles.

I got the series just fine, Aladdin struggled to find an answer to these exact questions because it was constantly pointed out to him that people aren't created equal despite him wanting everyone to see things on those terms.

I hated him from the start.

Yes.

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>But because those rules were in place it enabled people like David, Solomon, Sinbad, even Matel to stand above others.
Except Magician can still use magic and regular humans can't use metal vessels anymore, so by your own logic nothing has changed. Regardless of the system the point was no one person should rule over others, the destruction of the old system was more thematic than anything destroying the idea of a single king ruling over all as Solomon did.

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>Anime adaption was pretty mediocre tho.
This
Studio Wit or Bones

Morgiana honestly isn't even really a main character, what the hell are you smoking? Magi's strong suit has always been in moral and philosophical discussion, not in the substanceless fights that were an excuse to drum up a fanbase

>so by your own logic nothing has changed
No more Sinbads at least. That's a net positive for everyone and honestly I kind of thought magic should have gone as well but oh well, Ohtaka thought otherwise. Plus with the landscape fucked like it is I guess having spellcasters isn't as big a problem. and Magic potential isn't strictly speaking hereditary so it's still more liberal in dispersal than once in an era figures like David.
>Regardless of the system the point was no one person should rule over others,
I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean that people like Sinbad weren't special in the context of the story even if he was wrong about his methods and actions.

I just remember Paimon

More like Op-paimon

>No more Sinbads at least. That's a net positive for everyone
So you agree Sinbad didn't "get off scott free" good. Even if he did stay now that he learned his lesson the shouldn't be a threat.

>honestly I kind of thought magic should have gone as well but oh well
So unless everyone is 100% the same there can be no peace, any differences between people need to be removed? Basically an ethnostate?

>if he was wrong about his methods and actions.
Alright, you agree he isn't the chosen one, good.

>So you agree Sinbad didn't "get off scott free" good.
No, even with all the stuff he did he was forgiven. I just mean no more people who have that much potential to completely fuck over reality, although Aladdin still exists so whatever.
>So unless everyone is 100% the same there can be no peace, any differences between people need to be removed?
Don't go /pol/ on me now user, we've had a good conversation. The point is that with magiciains still a thing you still have the potential for another Matel to manifest down the line because the differences in capabilities between magicians and non-magicians can still create friction if that relationship is exploited on either side.
>Alright, you agree he isn't the chosen one, good.
Nope, by definition singularity is treated the same as chose one, doesn't mean the chosen one is right to assume control of everyone's mind because he feels it would be best.

Copying SnK? Embarrassing

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Fishbaba and HakuMor shippers got BTFO so hard. I remember it being a meme to call Morgianna "who?" for her irrelevance and to call Alibaba a cuck

finished the manga recently
the first half is better and isn't rushed
how do you feel about all the mythology and magic stuff?
do think it was represented well?

>No, even with all the stuff he did he was forgiven
Like Cassim, Mogamett? This series doesn't have black and white morality (for the most part), Sinbad wanted peace his methods were questionable but his goal was noble, so yes he was forgiven.

>Don't go /pol/ on me now user, we've had a good conversation
Just stating what I thought you were getting at, I disagree with that idea.

>another Matel to manifest down the line because the differences in capabilities between magicians and non-magicians can still create friction if that relationship is exploited on either side.
See, you shit on Sinbad but here you are basically doing the same thing, trying to take care of a problem before it has even happened yet.
>Nope, by definition singularity is treated the same as chose one

>He was wrong in "his methods and actions."
>Literally goes out as an example of what NOT to do
But still the chosen one apparently, yeah I don't think we're ever going to agree on this. Both him and David were the antagonists and they were clearly in the wrong. David's status as a singularity gave him a shitty empty life and cost Sinbad his own.

Of course Sinbad can be forgiven, but he did far more despicable things in my book and the story lets him off in the end. Doesn't mean he isn't deserving of forgiveness, but I still think he's an asshole.
>trying to take care of a problem before it has even happened yet
I'm not trying to do anything before anything retard. It's a fact that people are going to be in conflict over the things that set them apart, even in this new world give it a couple generations and some conflict will arise again. It just won't have the benefit of cosmic superpowers throwing hands. And the gap between magic and non-magic users isn't going to suddenly not cause problems in the future, it's just in everyone's hands to deal with whatever problems come down the line and no more "Gods" should have a say in it.

>David's status as a singularity gave him a shitty empty life and cost Sinbad his own.
Still chosen ones, still special existences. You're right though, we won't agree because you think the chosen one has to be infallible and personally fulfilled. Not a wrong assumption but you forget that even if someone isn't those two things if whatever higher powers at be give them their status they are still chosen ones.

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Meh

Magi actually got me into a lot of interesting historical and mythological shit while it was still running. It's thanks to Magi that I have such a keen interest in the Ancient World and places like Mesopotamia and Rome and read a lot about their mythologies and pantheons.

Nice

>how do you feel about all the mythology and magic stuff?
>do think it was represented well?
I think a major plus towards Magi is the worldbuilding and believably of the setting. Each location has a sense of culture to them, and it's relevant not just background dressing. Stuff like Alibaba mentioning how bowing has a different meaning in Balbadd was a neat little nod to how stuff fit together as well as allowing him to be clever in the face of adversity. But also the history of this world and how artifacts from real world mythologies the idea that there's a common base for all languages leading up to the revelation of what Alma Torran actually was maintained a solid backbone for the series.

Magic was also fine, this is the rare series where martials and casters can sit on equal ground since everyone uses magic. It's just the difference between using a staff or using a metal vessel. While Magi do get to be more broken it's not like they are the end all be all given it takes a group effort to take down the bigger threats. I really enjoyed Magnostadt as a whole for being a real examination for how magic could be used to develop a civilization and different groups having their own magical research departments and arriving at different innovations.

Magi is a series where even if I'm not familiar with 1001 arabian nights I still get the impression that it was a well researched series that the author then took in her own direction. Shame about the final acts being what they are.

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huh

They were so shameless about it too.

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Good, it sucked anyway

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Magi threads were fine before the timeskip and that huge flashback arc. After that shippers from tumblr came here and just started shitposting en masse until chapter 314 came out and BTFO'd them hard.

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Magi threads were perfectly fine and low-key until the shipping and power levels both got out of control

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Name a better girl than Arba, I dare you.

get laid

Based and jewpilled

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What anime is Get Laid from?

I miss Judar and Hakuryuu's Edgecellent Adventure

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reminder he was supposed to be a girl initially

dilate

your mother's bedroom

boards.fireden.net/a/thread/144251766/
Remember the good times.

Never heard of that anime before, user. Sounds pretty niche.

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Obvious bait is obvious.