Which one is, in your opinion, the best anime in terms of sheer animation and graphics?

>when virtually no professional or industry person has ever even paid it noteworthy amounts of attention
So please tell me, whom do you consider to be a professional or industry person of acclaim who actually addressed the medium's greatest accomplishments in the last decade? What other anime have they pointed to? What was their reasoning?
Not only is appealing to authority not an argument, I very seriously doubt you can even cite your appeals. More than likely, you're just spouting >hurr not top 25 bullshit because you don't see it discussed on ANN or whatever shithole you get your opinions from because you can't actually think (or see, in this case) on your own.

Not part of this argument.
Appeal to authority has always confused me. I understand the inherent problem, but that is more a matter of people not being perfect.
You cannot research everything. On many matters, you have to trust what others have found out. You consult a dictionary on how to spell a word, you ask a doctor what's wrong with you, and every time you enter an elevator, you trust the manufacturer and the inspectors to have done their jobs and that the security features of the lift are properly installed and functional. You can't test all that. You just nod your heads at the guys and say: "They probably know what they were doing and are doing their job properly."
But dictionaries can get words wrong. And doctors can misdiagnose you.
So you have authorities, and it's the right thing to do to ask for their expert opinions on matters. So long as you are not blinded by their supposed knowledge of the matter.
You can correct your spelling. You can ask a second doctor. You might even survive an elevator accident.

So I don't think calling on authorities in an argument is wrong. It's a decent point to bring up. It's just not the end of all arguments, especially when that guy provides no source for his expert opinions.

You badmouth ANN, yet Redline isn't even praised anywhere outside of the western community. ANN is your most important, hell, your only ally. My suggestion is to learn Japanese and watch more anime. Or you could continue to call Redline ZA GREATEST ANIMATED ANIMA EVA for another 10 years instead.
>greatest accomplishments in the last decade
But it appears you're already backpedalling and start to limit your claim to the most recent decade. Guess that's progress. Problem is: Redline can't even keep up with Ordinal Scale or Legend of the Millenium Dragon, let alone major Ghibli films. And, if Japanese critical response is to be trusted, Kaijuu no Kodomo is on an entirely different level than anything else produced this decade.

>Redline isn't even top 25
So what's the top 5?

What does it matter? Queue up some random Ghibli productions + Akira + Okiura and you already have like 10-15 better animated films. Redline doesn't hold a candle to Miyazaki's late 90s+ feature films. Ponyo is shorter than Redline, yet has 70% more frames. E.g. The wave-chase sequence is more impressive than anything found in Redline.

>You badmouth ANN, yet Redline isn't even praised anywhere outside of the western community
Again, can you prove this claim in any meaningful way?
>ANN is your most important, hell, your only ally
Fuck right off.
>My suggestion is to learn Japanese and watch more anime
I've probably watched more than you, newfag, not that this has anything much to do with the argument.
>But it appears you're already backpedalling and start to limit your claim to the most recent decade
You're a fucking imbecile. I limited it to the last decade because Redline came out a decade ago, and so discussions before it could not possibly reference its quality or lack thereof, and would not be relevant to the argument. I assumed that this would be understood implicitly, but I guess you're just *that* stupid.
>Redline can't even keep up with Ordinal Scale or Legend of the Millenium Dragon, let alone major Ghibli films
Oh, okay, you're just baiting. Got it. Either that, or you genuinely don't understand that we're talking about animation and not overall film quality. Redline isn't a very good film, but it's much better than fucking Ordinal Scale or Millenium Dragon in terms of animation. I will give Miyazaki his dues, and his animation is obviously very good, but outside of some certain cuts most of his films aren't as consistently technically great as Redline. Redline is an arthouse film. You don't hear people talking about it for the same reason you won't hear people talking about live action arthouse films, but instead about Hollywood ones. It's obscure, and it's not as good as mainstream films overall, but that doesn't mean it doesn't do its own niche thing better than those.
>And, if Japanese critical response is to be trusted, Kaijuu no Kodomo is on an entirely different level than anything else produced this decade.
Haven't seen, can't comment.

>dodging user's question
As expected.

Devil man crybaby of course

>I will give Miyazaki his dues, and his animation is obviously very good, but outside of some certain cuts most of his films aren't as consistently technically great as Redline. Redline is an arthouse film.
I'll just highlight this part. Maybe I'll print it and frame it.

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>but outside of some certain cuts most of his films aren't as consistently technically great as Redline
By this I don't mean to say that Ghibli animation isn't consistently good. It's obviously very fluid and lifelike, but it's just that 90% of the time it's safe and boring. It may be very well made, but it's not impressive. It doesn't have to be. Ashitaka riding his deer doesn't have to be dazzling. In contrast, Redline is basically animation for animation's sake, so virtually every cut takes it ten steps forward. It may not do everything as consistently smoothly, but it makes for a more technically impressive product. Kind of like an amazing 3-star michelin restaurant dish that's just shy of perfection, vs a perfectly executed run-of-the-mill burger.

You didn't really answer my question...

>My suggestion is to learn Japanese and watch more anime.
Weird flex. The series being mentioned as better than Redline have all been subbed.
So what's your point?

Not him but try posting actual arguments instead of memeing if you're so confident in your opinions.

Movie: Madoka Rebellion
TV: Mononoke

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akage no anne

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There's no point in answering your question since it'll just result in a worthless debate over whether A is actually better than B, despite it being of minor importance to the topic. It doesn't matter which of Mononoke, Howls, Ponyo, Spirited Away, Kaguya is the most well animated and makes a top 5. They all shit on Redline regardless.
>actual arguments instead of memeing if you're so confident in your opinions.
Sorry, can't do. People who claim for Ghibli animation to be uninspired are one thing. But people who claim for Redline to be art house, or for art house to be ignored by industry people, are just laughable. Every live-action critics poll ever conducted consists first and foremost of art house films. Mind Game (that's an actual art house film) also makes virtually every Japanese "muh greatest anime ever" poll. Art house isn't ignored. Garbage however is. Hence why nobody cares for Redline.

violet evergarden

>There's no point in answering your question
Stopped reading here. I accept your defeat.

Oniisama e is the best looking TV anime of all time. You can't convince me otherwise.

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I it comes to movies, Probably your name but ghost in the Shell and Akira are up there too.

If it comes to TV series SnK (S1) but If we are tal king about animation as a whole series, either Escaflowne or Cowboy bebop.

It looks as good as most other anime aired that decade, lad.

Watch more anime holy shit.

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Finally some good fucking taste

>it looks as good as most any other anime that decade

But it has a very distinct art style and direction that elevates it's visuals significantly.

Define animation and graphics first.
Means animation pure effort/workforce put in per frame?
And how could u even define "graphics"?

The Lawnmower Man

Hyouka

P-H-O-T-O-G-R-A-P-H-Y dammit! I had this painful experience b4!

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