State of the media

>people will call it "art" when all they care about is their waifu
IT'S A MEME YOU DIP

>anime is turning into all fanservice nowadays
>anime in general is bad and even the ones I used to like are bad
>literally acknowledges that people have been saying "anime is all fanservice nowadays" for over twenty years but still keeps going with the complaint he just invalidated himself
I don't even get what your point is, it sounds like you just don't like anime and you're sort of flailing about randomly because of that. I'm going to leave this thread, have a nice day.

>'95
Damn, looks like anime peaked in the 80s and all been downhill since.

This entire thread could be answered with a yes or no answer, but people chose to complain. Never change Yea Forums.

However if you throttle back hostility by 50% you might have a better time, not everyone is looking for an argument or fight, just discussion.

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Yes

There were never many good shows without lots of female characters or fanservice. Not because those things are necessary, but because creators like them and tend to put them in everywhere.

>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters? or very few and no fan service?
I already enjoy Hajime No Ippo and Akagi

>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters? or very few and no fan service
Yes I would love more Kaiji and Cromartie High School

why didnt you watch Bungou Stray Dogs?

>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters?
Gay, i'm not interested watching dudes all the time.

>or very few and no fan service?
Acceptable. I appreciate fanservice and always consider it a bonus but i don't consider it mandatory.

If you don't want discussion just make a fucking strawpoll.

>Space Battleship Yamato.
20 seconds of fanservice in 24 episodes.
A single bath scene and a naked girl inside a capsule from what i remember. I would spit in the face of all the people that made me waste time on this shit commenting everywhere that was some kind of soft porn.
I fapped more to Sakigake!! Otokojuku

The market is dominated by obsessive otakus.
Hence why things like idolshit usually end up being a top-seller.

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It's not like Mori-san in the original Yamato served as more than
>be harassed constantly by Analyzer
>serve as love interest
So women conveying the fanservice isn't related to how many of those you have

Massive amounts of all media use attractive women (and men) to sell better. It's nothing to do with otaku.

It's impossible to discuss this topic because criticizing staple anime shit means you're not a real, informed fan even though the lowest common denominator happily eats that shit up. That or you have to be under countless layers of irony, you lose if you take the medium seriously and want more out of it.

>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters? or very few and no fan service?
Jojo?

It's impossible to discuss if you ignore everyone in the thread actually trying to discuss it, or if all you actually want to do is bitch and moan about it.

>you lose if you take the medium seriously and want more out of it.
More like you lose if you try to make more out of the medium than it is or has been since inception, that being an entire medium of trends and advertisement that occasionally puts out something better than its contemporaries, especially if you are whining about this while not being Japanese, ie, the actual target audience that matters

>It seems anime as an industry is just a fan service factory. if there aren't breasts on screen it won't happen.
The real question is, why someone should be bothered by this?
And don't tell me about redundancy, or else i should complain of every punch on the face, friendshit power up, and hundreds of other tropes that are not less redundant and spreaded everywhere. But for some reason a girl taking a shower is everything evil in the industry.

I watch no anime without a single cute major female character that caters to my taste.
It's physically near impossible for me to enjoy any piece of entertainment when there is no cute girl involved, be it anime, manga, games, TV show or theatrical movies.
Even when playing video games, I always focus on the female charcaters. I always pick the girl in Pokemon, and my teams are strictly made of female cutemons.
I always spend time making cute girls in SoulsBorne, vastly favor playing cute girls in fighting games. For the latter, I exceptionally learned male characters for potential Ryona matchups in fighting games (and always used cute girls as punching balls during my training sessions).
Persona games? I play them for the cute girls.
FF games? All female teams, and always kill the permanent male characters as much as I could.
Porn? I only fap to porn with cute girls in them.
Even when it comes to music. I tend to favor songs with female vocals.
All men should be like me.

>all men should be gynocentric cumbrains

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>Porn? I only fap to porn with cute girls in them.
Too far.

1 can handle 1 female character, as long as she serve a purpose in the storyline. I'm neither hyped or bothered by fan service.

Stream it if you're so good

Here.

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>webm
This is badong

This.
No girls: no fun.
Also gay.

One of my all time favorite anime, while having an almost all female cast, has no fan service in the sense of the word you're thinking of. That being Aikatsu, and I love it to death because the characters aren't all static perfect moe blobs, but feel human because of the growth they have throughout the series. A lot of it is very simple, but it's expected given the target audience of very young girls. The anime staff didn't have to make the series as good as they did to please the producers, as it's an anime that does exist to sell cards for the arcade game, among other things within the franchise.
To also answer your first question, yes I do also love anime without female characters, anything by Fukumoto immediately comes to mind, along with a good chunk of sports series.

>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters? or very few and no fan service?
I'd enjoy a modern anime with no male characters and 0 ecchi fanservice more.
Like if you present to me a choice between two anime about, say, grizzled old war veterans out for one last hurrah, I'd enjoy an all-female cast of battle granny's more than an all-male cast of battle grandads.

this but unironically

>I always pick the girl in Pokemon, and my teams are strictly made of female cutemons.
You lost me here. Fucking retard

Anime in the 80s was dogshit as well

Anime is doing far better than Hollywood despite its faults.
Fuck off kike

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Currently watching Haikyuu, so I can definitely enjoy shows with very few females. I do prefer it when shows have a bunch of cuties in them, but it's by no means a requirement for a good show.

Wow you typed out all that just to say you haven't seen much anime. Great job.

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Not all media is either animu or Hollywood, you know

Back to Yea Forums with your shitty meme, champ.

What you say user? Maicching Machiko sensei? What's this?
Ranma? No girls or titties there.
Is all now, that the industry is all T&A. Before it was all hokuto no Ken and Riki-oh.

this exists

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haha cumbrain

Faggot.

fpbp

males and females have gotten boring.
I want stories about more than just two sexes.

Yiff in hell.

GEAR DIDNT DO ANYTHING
IT GOT POWERED DOWN OVER THE COURSE OF THE SERIES JUST SO THAT THE GUY CAN HAVE A SHOT AT WINNING

Since the 70s that are like three good anime that don't have cute girls

Most western media does originate from Hollywood though

Counter point: the state of the media of live action movies.
would you enjoy a modern hollywood movie with only unattractive female actors? or very few attractive ones but no sex scenes.

ect. ect. you're not worth the effort of copying the rest of your post, you get the point.
attractive women in a visual medium is the standard across the board.

Even then, it has changed so much that it might as well be a completely different beast. They'd never do something like, say, Gone With the Wind now.
Anime as we know it now is a younger medium and it has always been less varied in scope, but it's way too risk-averse now.

There's still always going to be at least one unique anime per year though.
Lets not forget that Manga and light novels give plenty of inspiration and material too

Oh my god watch more anime you fucking newfag

>modern anime has 10x less fanservice than 5-10 years ago
>soicuck from Yea Forums still whines

Dumbass is looking like a complete idiot, OP isnt watching Given. It has everything they want. I think OP is a femanon

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Do you seriously think there's as much variety as cinema? Not even being pretentious, it's bound to happen since it's younger, concentrated in a single country and making anime takes a fuckton of effort that might not even be paid off.
And there are very few successful original projects, usually shit backed by Aniplex.

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>Be honest here Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters?
As long as it is good, Kaiji is my favourite anime and it fits that description.

Not even disagreeing with the idea that the 80's had tons of smutty ultraviolent shlock, but there still was the climate (and economy bubble money) for investing in ambitious projects, like the Giant Robo OVAs (even though the sequel was never made because of the crisis).
That's why I say it's risk-averse, would you rather bet everything on animu originals that don't rely on associating with musical labels and GSC or make isekai adaptions that guarantee you some returns?

There are anime that take risks every single year or unless you mean by "taking risks" you mean "pandering to my normalfag tastes"

Yes I would enjoy a modern anime with no female characters as long as the cast has good chemistry. I'd prefer an all male cast to a all female cast

I read manga, which isn't as bad (or at least isn't as saturated with series like that) with needing to appeal to fanservice-obsessed otaku.

I don't think you know what an otaku is

A hobbyist or fan, generally an obsessive one. In the west the term is mostly used to refer to Anime and Manga Otaku, and more rarely Idol or occasionally Train Otaku.

>Giant Robo OVAs
>ambitious
They're no different than any other OVA to come out in the 80s or 90s. Good animation but overall pretty mediocre but still heralded as some great piece of art for some reason. Not to mention it had Gin-Rei who is there partially for fanservice which is something that makes OP upset.

If that meant that the effort allocated into the fanservices goes toward actually quality, fucking yes. I unironically hate 95% of anime series for the sole reason of waifu culture alone.

Stop watching anime

>I hate 95% of anime
It's always MANimefags, shounenfags and Toonamifags with this horrendous opinion. Fuck off back to facebook, newfag.

I'm a mangafag. There's still a shit ton of fanservice but at least it looks nicer.

You're still cancer and should fuck off

Anime is not a medium for you

I prefer shounenshit to that degenerate pathetic waifushit that you watch. I legitimately stopped watching that garbage after 9th grade. Grow up, virgin.

You have to be 18 to post here

>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters? or very few and no fan service?
Sure, if the writing is good and the characters are interesting. There's a reason why LOGH is still popular. It's just that the industry knows that attractive women sell, so they put in as many of them as they can.

I actually think unnecessary fan service can ruin shows, If the show is fan servicey from the get go and relies on showing breasts/bras/pants etc then it's fine but when they force it just ruins the feel of the show because it wasn't needed.

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Shut the fuck up tripfag

user, we've had this conversation so many times. Yes, fanservice runs the industry. Why? It makes money. Eventually you just block it out and understand how to take the value underneath.

Have sex

>cumbrains

I wouldn't call it mediocre, but it's ambitious in the sense that it tried to do something greater than itself (and got fucked when they ran out of money). Not to mention there were some genuinely talented big names behind it.
OP's problem doesn't seem to be with fanservice in itself, just shows that rely entirely on it. Ginrei even had those slutty OVAs but they were still something accessory to the original, not the main attraction.

>but it's ambitious in the sense that it tried to do something greater than itself (and got fucked when they ran out of money)
How incredibly vague

What more do you need? They took a short manga a tried to make a kolossal spanning 6 years that involved mecha, melodrama, spaghetti western music, espers and wuxia, and that was just the beginning of what was supposed to be a much greater whole. All while keeping consistent top tier animation

>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters? or very few and no fan service?
Very little. Ghost in the Shell (I mean it), Space Brothers, LoGH. Most male only anime is retarded battle shounen or stuff aimed at fujo/otome, which are not my thing. There are exceptions. Didn't read the rest of your post because you sound like a faggot. Also, sage.

Read Hunter x Hunter.

One punch man was fucking great before slutto sisters slowed up and tittyed all over the place, like when it was just Saitama being a bum and killing shit and punching people in the dick by accident

They barely get any screentime though, are you joking?

when you have a brain tumor, most of your body has no cancer cells in it, but you still have cancer

Gay.

>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters?
Fujobait?

Give me anime with no characters

>Stop enjoying natural landscapes, start staring at this garbage dump and enjoying it!
>What do you mean, you like roses more than common weeds?
>Why do you like to cuddle with cats but don't want to touch that decomposing one?
When people will realize that it's fucking natural to enjoy staring at nice things? Desiring seeing anime girls doing cute things over, dunno, anime boys punching each other in face is same as desiring quality art over non-quality art. There are simply things that attract more attention than others, and you either have to admit it is so, or go hang yourself, because sure as hell you ain't going to change nature of all living.

Let's say you have a good idea which will work even without cute girls. Why not make it even better and add some cute girls to it?

My AOTD top 3 is Ping Pong, Uchouten Kazoku and Penguindrum, i generally despise CGDCT as well as fujobait as well as their fanbases and it's been this way for all the 15 years i'm with this medium.
Everything is good in moderation, i love some good fanservice but only as long as it's not a substitute for a good show at which point i may as well just go to boorus for fap material without wasting my time.

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How utterly pretentious

>Gay, i'm not interested watching dudes all the time
You could not watch a fucking Predator without heart attack.

>Anime is doing far better than Hollywood
Yeah i don't think so. Anime industry is going same path with all those remakes or sequels to old shows.

>There are anime that take risks every single year
Like what?

So in your opinion anime industry is perfect?

Anybody who watched enough anime has watched plenty of stuff with little to none fanservice.

The idea that the quality of writing is inverse to the amount of fanservice is completely unfounded as shown by western cartoons.

Eroticism is a form of artistic expression.

You are neither an intelligent nor mature person. You are just both arrogant and ignorant.

no

>anime boys punching each other in face
Why is it always shounen with you faggots? You know all male or at least most of male cast kinda shows can be more than just that.

Literally pick any show that thinks it will overtake the industry with a shit idea and fails to do so.

When I was in my 20s I was able to have sex with a few preteenaged girls or fool around with them but I am growing more concerned that even though it has been many years, I wont be able to get close to any new ones because I am nearing 40. How do I stay sexually active with young girls after 40? Money, language doesnt seem to help these days and I am in a dry spell. I think cellular devices are frying their brains.

>Eroticism is a form of artistic expression
I fucking wish there was more Eroticism in anime and not just in your face ecchi.

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Dumb Yea Forums retard

In your face ecchi is eroticism.
>inb4 mental gymnastics

But i am right.

Then more subtle eroticism.

DeCarlo is a GOD

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I only watch anime to enhance doujinshi

I only watch 20th century anime because back then knew how to tell a story, write characters and how to draw/animate.

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I can't rewatch half the anime I grew up on just cause they're not filled with cute girls. Pretty much all the shounen stuff that aired on cartoon network in the 90's/00's feels like flyover, with cardcaptor sakura and sailor moon being the only two from that time period I can really enjoy.

I remember i used to think all that action shounen shit used to be awesome. I think Betterman and Serial Experiments Lain planted seeds in my mind. Or maybe the hidden meaning of evangelion has finally worked it's magic.

Pretty girls need to be main characters in anime, if not MC then they spend nearly every moment around MC.

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>those
>pretentious
Watching shit rots your brain, user-kun.

And you misused the term anyway.

You might argue about the quality of each instance of fanservice, but the moment you do that you've already accepted fanservice as an integral part of the medium.
As far as I am concerned that's a checkmate.

Nigger that's the same shit.

Because it's just an example you goddamn cretin. There, you can now be offended that I called you names. Hopefully it will be enough of a fix of being offended to last you through the rest of day.

>either girls that look like toddlers or punching boys with all the cliched tropes
The moeshitter with no taste

Anime tiddies and fanservice are artistic expression you retard
Most of humanity's greatest accomplishments in the figurative arts have been about about expressing beauty and ideal forms
So why would anime be any different?
Ever heard of Pygmalion?

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I don't see the problem with waifushit existing. It's been around for 40 years now. I stopped watching ecchi haremshit because it's boring. Not because I feel some sense of duty out of not watching certain kinds of cartoons like a lot of fags on social media.

Anime is cheaply made with the purpose of extracting as much money out of otaku as possible, this isn't very different to entire film studios flying out to countries with dubious laws and no unions to film shit.

Once the kind of stories I'm interested in stop being produced I'll abandon the medium and it won't make a difference to anyone because I've spent nothing.

Every 13 year old fag goes on a phase of only watching 2DEEP4U shit like Ergo Proxy, Mongatari, or whatever; and claiming everything else is trash ruining the medium. Shortly before realizing you were a pretentious fag. Purposly avoiding anything someone may find attractive doesn't get you "Legend of The Galactic Heros" it gets you She-Ra or Steven Universe.

At least I know you fags will deserve it when eventually all anime will consist of CG mocapped Vtubers streaming themselves rolling gachashit

>either 2deep4u wankery or borderline porn
Really? Can there be nothing else?

Watch more anime, seriously, there are countless ones with all-male casts and ones with females that have no fanservice

m8 you're delusional.

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Sure some of them but most of time it is just so you get horny otakus to buy your shit.

What was the last high selling fanservice show? Closest thing I can see is strike witches and that was a huge flop while shows without female fanservice dominated.

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What about Sanctuary? I think it would great to have more that kinda anime out there.

>not enjoying male bonding in the name of honor and justice by pulverizing their enemies into bits
Fucking faggot.

yes

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Just you wait, I bet it'll happen at least 10 years from now, that and AI generated scripts

there is zero precedence for your idea. You've merely confused virtual youtubers with actual anime.

Making non-sexual garbage that appeals to normalfags is not any better

I'm not. That's the problem.

/thread

Dumb nigger

Sounds like a transexual

You should examine why you FEAR ecchi. Yes, you are fearful of mixing of ecchi and good anime. The fear response is due to stress you experience because you've been brainwashed by western media.

>Be honest here
>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters? or very few and no fan service?
Fuck yeah, I loved Toriko, though the manga was obviously much better because Toei were the ones fucking adapting it. I don't really care for fanservice in anime, people who watch an anime just for fanservice and then call it "good" are fucking daft because if you watch something purely for the lewd fanservice you're better off watching porn and any other anime out there.
On that note, I don't mind if an anime is obviously trying to sell merch, so long as it's still cool and creative with how it does things. Niggas gotta make money and I'm not going to shit on anyone for trying to fucking live.

Learn to read, retard.

Normaly the whole bromance involves protecting a cute girl, rei and kenshiro became bros to protect rei's sister.
Avoid fujobait, though.

Neither of those is a meme in the sense that you're using the word.

The seeds of evil were planted, stop Skynet before it takes over

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>Would you enjoy a modern anime with no female characters?
I know I wouldn't be watching Sounan Desu Ka if it had the original plan of it being all male and similarly doubt I'd watch the majority of stuff I do if they replaced the characters with guys.
Even with no fanservice the characters being cute is enough to make it better.

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Imagine the smell

Zipang, is good and it has like one female character who is an old fat nurse.

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Legalize child pornography and consensual preteen sex TODAY!

Not really, even getting through Vinland Saga is a struggle without eyecandy