So what's the most influential shonen ever?

Dragon Ball. Nothing comes close to it.

Other than Dragon Ball and Fist of the North Star...
Kinnikuman and GeGeGe no Kitaro were also pretty damn influential.

Dragon Ball but Super and American ''''''''''fans'''''''''' that have only watched Z on TV give it a bad name

oh but aku no hana is such a classic, right?

This image is bait so who cares. Neither deserve to be on the list

this as well good list

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>putting the worst jojo part there

Devilman

Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daishou. The first mega hit in WSJ and the first series that was "asked" to continue past it's original ending, inspired Masami Kurumada to become a mangaka who's first big work was Ring ni Kakero which is the only battle shounen older than Kinnikuman to have typical battle shounen stuff in it, and inspired both Tetsuo Hara and Buronson to become manga artists and authors respectively. Without it, WSJ would have never become the big magazine it was back in those days.

Kinnikuman came up with most of the battle shounen stuff that is still used now
>Power of friendship
>Naming super moves
>Retarded MC who likes to eat but is a steadfast hero of justice
>Enemies becoming allies
>No one ever dying
>Infinite tournament arcs

Fist of the North Star defined an era of manly battle manga mainly through it's aesthetic.

Dragonball was good in it's own right (anyone who says it's bad hasn't read the manga) but only really pioneered beam spam and Fist of the North Star had a primitive form of that in there, just not really as good. Maybe power ups as well but I don't know. It's biggest failing is inspiring shit like Naruto and One Piece though.

So to conclude, Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daishou is the original elder God of battle shounen.

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It's Astro Boy and it's not even close.

Tetsuwan Atom. It thought it'd be obvious.

Ashita no Joe is older than Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daishou

>FM shitchemist
>best anything

Yikes and cringe. You're as non influential as they come. Forgotten crap.

Dragon ball

Depending on the era, one could say FotNS or Dragon Ball. Jojo also has it's place but not as much as those two

Ring ni Kakero, if I remember correctly, is the first shounen manga to have the characters calling out their attacks that basically every shounen used so that's pretty influential in that way

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>Jojo also has it's place
I'm not saying it's bad but it influenced nothing. It also started off as a HnK ripoff

Devilman. Anyone implying otherwise is lying.

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>it influenced nothing
Maybe not to the extent that others have, but to say Jojo has influenced nothing is flat out wrong these days.

>YYH
>Two great villains
I haven't watched the show besides some clips. But are the villains Toguro and Sensui? Because I only saw those two fights.

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it's a bildungsroman you peasants

Dragon Ball was like the start of a shonen renaissance

I assumed on the virtue of him posting Fist of the North Star that we are talking about battle shounen, asking "what is the most influential boys manga" seems a bit stupid. But if that was the question then yes Ashita no Joe would take it, or maybe Devilman. The fact that they are so hugely different suggest the question is flawed unless a subgenre of shounen is specified.

this guy gets it

>But if that was the question
Then Dragon Ball gets it since every other shonen manga that came after it is influenced by it

It isn't though since Kinnikuman and Ring ni Kakero had nearly everything in Dragonball before it did. And without Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daishou the magazine would have never been able to produce those two.

Yeah I too have watched that video by YonkouProductions. Guess why Dragon Ball and Hokuto no Ken are still the most influential? Because they weren't an uninspired snoozefest that is Kinnikuman. Also Ashita no Joe predates Otoko Ippiki by almost 1 year and it has introduced the nekketsu genre in manga

you pos..dammit

Devilman

1.Dragon Ball
2. Ashita no Joe
3. HnK
4. Devilman
5. Slam Dunk
6. JJBA
7. RB
8. YYH

>Rurouni Kenshin, City Hunter
Those fucked with a otherwise good list.

Even as popular Devilman is, I think that Cutey Honey (beautiful-joyful fighting girl ecchi comedy) and Devilman "sequel" Violence Jack (badass lone fighter in a apocalyptic world journey) are more influential Nagai manga in the genre directly speaking.

Harenchi Gakuen, as it is the first modern ecchi manga, the manga who made Jump skyrocket early on and the manga who made Go Nagai (in)famous.

Dragon Ball

>It isn't though since Kinnikuman and Ring ni Kakero had nearly everything in Dragonball before it did
God tier paneling? I don't think so

Kinnikuman is way better than Dragonball though.

>ippo
>best fight choreography
"PUNCH HARDER KID, KEEP BLOCKING WITH YOUR HEAD, YAMATO DAMASHII YOU STILL GOT OXYGEN IN YOUR MUSCLES"

Yea Forums is indeed one person that believes all of this

Most modern shounen is influenced by Dragon Ball and Jojo. Hokuto no Ken influenced both, and also was probably responsable for popularizing most of the tropes that shounen manga took from martial arts movies, so Hokuto no Ken, definitely