Why don't you learn Japanese?

>most burgers know any other language besides English

>Likely someone who is still learning and makes plenty mistakes which you'll never realize
And thus you ask us to be in the same place anyway...the irony.

>ESL cunts
>who refuse to learn another language
what

I am learning. Kanji is a fucking pain but Anki really helps.

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comic books for chuldren aren't that deep. I'll consider it if I get into actual Japanese literature

There is so much better shit to do than learning moonrunes just to watch that one chinese cartoon no one cares about.

What is the best way? Will Aru hit me with her "do your best beam" too help? Will the mod start cracking down on these threads!?

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but im already learning, im at 1400 words

I'm Aruposting and there's nothing you can do about it.

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>ESL cunts who refuse to learn another language

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>Are you really such a casual about your hobbies
I don't wanna hear this from someone who has likely never truly engaged with a piece of Japanese animation. Tell me: What do you do beyond consumption, casual? Not much would be my guess.

>Knowing any other language other than english
Okay thirdworlder

I did learn japanese op, probably biggest mistake of my entire life.

back when I was a little weeb kid I always thought of japanese as some mythical thing, an incredible skill. then I actually learned it and spend around 5 years consuming all kinds of different media and even translating some, before I realized all I managed to achieve by learning the language is expanding the ocean of escapist media I can drown myself in. But there already was more media than I could ever consume back when I only knew english, so what did I really achieve? atleast back when I didn't knew japanese I could pretend my life would magicially improve if I ever managed to learn it.

Learning another language requires an aptitude for literacy and Yea Forums already has trouble with that

I’m scared of Kanji and the fact I have to memorize it sending chills down to my spine.

Seems like a waste. I'm not even sure if I'm not gonna off myself in the next couple of years.

just because you were dumb and thought your life would be better by learning a language doesn't mean everyone has to be, it can be just for fun too.
you literally have nothing to lose by at least trying to learn a language. if it ever feels like a "waste of time" then you probably just don't want to learn the language

OP again, forgot to mention: learning Japanese has never been easier, with so many great resources available now. With excellent sites like itazuraneko.neocities.org/ there really is no excuse any more. I'd have killed for something that comprehensive when I started out.

I say learning something useless is better than learning nothing

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I'm studying Chinese characters now. They are similar to Japanese characters in meaning (in 80-90% cases). I find it the best to learn Chinese first then Japanese.
Chinese provides you access to Chinese medicine, martial arts and other (if they are not translated to your native language yet).
But Japanese allows you don't wait for subs (fucking where). And Japanese music is awesome. Also porn.
But is too difficult to learn Chinese characters because there are 6000+ of them. And they are separated by simplified and traditional. Fucking hell. I know about 1200 Chinese characters (simplified + traditional) right now.
I recommend to use free and open-source Anki program to study any languages (both Windows and Linux available). It is really easy and takes 20 minutes in a day. You can use it on your desktop or smartphone (and synchronize the study progress between devices).

i hate doing effort for anything

Kanji study is such a big fucking mountain to climb

> too help

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It's not even completely useless. I'm sure learning a difficult language like japanese has some benefits on mental capabilities like memorization.

Can someone tell me who AnimeBytes recruits from? I'm desperate.

>Are you really such a casual about your hobbies?
Why are you asking this on Yea Forums? Of course this place is full of casuals. True otaku can be found on /jp/.

Look, Japanese is a language. Like any language grammar, phonetics and vocabulary are the most important thing. Kanji are important insofar as they can be used for writing.
Instead of trying to memorize Kanji, try to learn (when starting out) two or three words for each Kanji (particularly words that use different readings).

because im not a hikkyneet

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remember how as long as the first and last characters are unchanged you can shuffle a word's characters and you can still read it? same logic applies to kanji. you don't actually read the words every time you see them, you just recognize them by glancing because of how much you've seen them before

>tfw you easily remember all 2350 kanji from Kanjidmg and Kanjidmg+ but hit a vocabulary wall after a mere 3000 words
Heh, nuffin personnel.

There's strong evidence that learning more languages helps keeping the mind healthy in the long run.

Pick a LN and a dictionary nigga

>ESL
>Refuse to learn another language

This is the state of burguer education...

itazuraneko.neocities.org/

anything will at worse at least help killing time
DON'T LEARN CHINESE

do people really keep count of all this shit? I know I never did for any language. just seems like DJT memes too me

burgÜer

Based.

Kanji a bitch

We're entering the Chinese century user.

anki counts it for them
it's still dumb vanity if you ask me

Oh wow, it's another
>I refuse to use technology and tracking
meme. Where do you people breed? Is there a nest?

this

they are very close to over taking america
in the future china might be the country in which everyone follows as america is proving more and more every year they don't know what they are doing.

Somebody post the chineseanon copypasta.

china is in decline already just like everyone else

Oh shit. What’s happened to DJT? I totally forget about it.

English is my fifth Lingua Franca plebeian

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>When you read a translated manga, all you're really reading is someone else's interpretation of it, remember that.
I want to point out that this is what anime adaptations are as well. If you watch anime adaptations of manga or LNs you're watching 24 minutes of some talentless hack's interpretation of the source.

Like, how do I even get started with this?
I know my hiragana and my katakana, and even know all the N5 words, but it's not helping.

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I've only seen 3 Japanese people in real life and there are no local communities. But there are a fuck ton of Chinese, Vietnamese and Korean here.

It's a giant shithole of people who argue about which eceleb knows japanese the best and which anki deck is clearly superior while boasting about how many reps they manage to squeeze into a day.
90% of the posters literally just grind anki for forever and wonder why they still haven't learned japanese after several years

Lmao bitch like i give a shit about someone "interpreting" shouting battle moves and "He is so fast!" -type dialogue.
I don't give a shit about harems,isekai,moeshit,light-novels,romance.
As for non battle manga, there are usually official translation of the "artsy" stuff.
In short, i only read shonen battle scanlations, for everything else i read the official translations.

I semi-learnt it that I understand basic grammar, can read kana and numerous amounts of kanji, but am just stuck at a basic level because I stopped learning years ago and never picked it up since. I also know how to capture text so I can figure out vocab I don't know. It's enough that I can tell when the subs/translation is just plain wrong, which is pretty much all I really gave a shit about with learning Japanese anyway, so whatever.

You read low to mid level VNs with a texthooker that shits out furigana for you.

Read some comics before jumping to LNs.

Jeez sounds like I’m not missing on anything.

>all I managed to achieve by learning the language is expanding the ocean of escapist media I can drown myself in.
This is why I'm learning it right now, and I have no regrets about it tbqhwyfam

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>DON'T LEARN CHINESE
WHY NOT?
THIS LANGUAGE IS MAYBE №2 on the internet, BUT BECAUSE THE MOST CHINESE LIVE IN THE VILLAGES!
ALSO THEIR ARMY... YOU MUST TO LEARN CHINESE IF YOU WANT TO LIVE!

>anime
>hobby
lol

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well if you are not going to move to japan or want to work in the japanese media industry in some form then you kind of wasted your time learning it if all you want to do is just consume and not consume and create.

jesus christ he sounds traumatized

you will years down the line

As a professional Japanese to English Translator/Editor, I love these threads. I love the basement dwelling knuckle draggers who think that learning Japanese is as simple as grinding kana for two weeks and then just drilling kanji.

I started studying Japanese when I was 15, that's 16 years ago and it wasn't until about 4-6 years ago that I honestly felt like I was actually getting the full experience, and even to this day I'm still learning.

It's not that simple, that's why you stay reliant on translators. The reason you get varying degrees of quality in translations is because it's not a fucking easy language to learn.
But sure. You're gonna pick up that Genki workbook tomorrow and start practicing again, aren't you?

There's a reason the hourly rate as well as the per page rate for translation is so high.

But I have been learning Japanese. Came in pretty handy while I was in Japan. A little bit of Japanese is necessary to get into quite a few soaplands and brothel shops.

F-fuck...

Even if you know japanese, some of them won't even bother with gaijin.

Plenty of them do, though. This is a pretty good resource for just Yoshiwara. All of the shops in the Tobita Shinchi brothel district pretty much welcome foreigners too (my preferred area).
tokyoadultguide.com/threads/the-yoshiwara-soapland-resource-thread.10381/

>ESL cunts
I know 6 languages, you fucking nigger.

How did you learned Japanese?

Of course a pro translator would say that. You're the town fisherman, you wouldn't want the townsfolk to learn how to catch fish on their own.

Cool, I might use this when I travel in two months. Myself I've been rejected just because I'm gaijin. I think girls usually ask (via the boss) if the client knows japanese, if it's a foreigner and sometimes if they are good looking for some reason.

I've seen something about using Yotsuba to learn some Japanese because it's written so simply. Are there other low level written manga that are good for that? Shonen in general will be kind of rudimentary but even in shonen you're bound to get harder stuff for beginners.

のんのんびより is good.

My job is stressful and requires a lot of mental and physical labor, so I don't have the effort to spare for learning a language. I would like to if I had the time.

why didn't you just say non non byori? lmao nerd

thanks for the suggestion btw

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i have also heard this as well and wondered the same thing if there are any more simple writing manga like yotsuba

Where in Japan will you be? Just Tokyo?

Pic related. A little bit wordier than Yotsuba perhaps, but still easy.

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Sendai, Tokyo, Kansai region and Kyuushuu for a few days.

where can you read it online in japanese?

KYS Weeaboos

Since you'll be in Kansai, I do recommend visiting Tobita Shinchi in Osaka. I don't have as much experience in Kyoto, though. You can just walk through the brothel district, and the girls and mama-sans will call out to you as your walk past so you'll know if you're welcome without doing much work.

>Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard.

You'll have to torrent off nyaa or check out the itazuraneko library.

Yea Forums - Brothels and Prostitution

thanks i'll try and find it on nyaa

>ESL cunts who refuse to learn another language

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I'm trying to learn, OP. In fact, now I read doujins exclusively in Japanese to get better at reading. For some reason my vocab is mostly erotic words, though.

>There's a reason the hourly rate as well as the per page rate for translation is so high.
Nice larp. If you were actually a pro you'd know the hourly rates for every language are dropping like a rock, even for Japanese. CR J->E translators make something like $100-200 for an episode, and Netflix doesn't offer much better rates.

Yeah I've heard of that place. Next time I'm in Osaka I'm definitely giving it a try. Sounds like less of a hassle than in Tokyo.

More expensive and it's a less intimate experience, but the girls are hot. Youth street is the shit.

A piece of advice for learning by reading: never get too hung up on understanding every little sentence perfectly. It's fine to rely on context and just read on. You'll pick up on things naturally in time. Analyzing every little thing too heavily will make reading a chore and make you do it less which is obviously not good.

I'm a doctor, my work is hard and time consuming. There is enough translated stuff I can drown myself into in my limited free time without the need of learning language for more.
Damn, I want to be carefree high schooler dreaming about Japan and learning japanese again.

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Freelance? Which industry? As far as I know only medical, academic, and legal translators make decent money these days, especially E>J ones. J>E translators for mainstream media make shit now. Also the majority (in all industries) do them by word/character, not hourly.
this

user, it's never too late to drop your boring doctor job to get into your hobbies!

But I did.

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The writing system is too complicated. Logographic symbols for entire con cepts:kanji. They all have their own unique meanings and pronunciations. That and the kana, which already has dozens pf symbols likewise. Besides, why would I go full weeb? I use manga and anime for escapism. Learning japanese will not bring me any real benefit.

thanks based user i will keep that in mind as i read yotsuba and other manga in japanese or doujins.

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You aren’t even decent at jap until you can read and fully comprehend Genji Monogatari

Learning kana is great and will make reading manga better even if you're reading translations because you can make out stuff written in the environment or sound effects. And even with just (manga and anime based) art outside of manga and anime where if there's stuff written it's unlikely to be translated.

Why waste time on Monogatari when you could be watching Game Center CX?!

I'm already at a level where I can listen to most anime and understand whether a translation is a semi-accurate or not. Add some experience in translating providing context about whether a translation sounds good overall, and I'm at a point where I don't feel too encouraged to actually study Japanese.
I admit I'm still fucked about manga, though.

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I’m 25% in to the core 2000 aniki pack and I’m having a fun time mining words/sentences from books, movies, audio, anime, 2chan etc. I’m also listening to more audio with and without transcripts so I can practice listening. Have a question for anyone who can answer. What’s the best way to understand the grammar other than looking through your grammar book every time you don’t understand something?

Because for example this image:
> ganbaredo-mu
WTF does that even mean? It's like than every time: I can read some words, but they're all mean nothing. No vocabulary -> can't understand shit -> no vocabulary.

>do-mu

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>ESL
>Refuse to learn another language

kek

>do-mu
It means you're a sub.

Retardation with hiragana and katakana is another thing. OK, so it's bi-mi, but the whole system is just like that: と and ヒ. Thanks, very useful.

>bi-mi
just stop

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>bi-mi
Never gonna make it.

Those two kana look different enough to be distinguishable. There are some that look really similar but those two aren't that bad. You sound like you skimmed the Wikipedia page on kana and gave up.

Anybody who falls for this meme is retarded.

>と and ヒ
user, I'd understand if it were シ and ツ or ね and わ, but what the fuck?

That's not how you greentext, retard

Why rely on duwang tier subs when you can learn the language of what you’re watching?

Duwang subs are less and less common. Even if they weren't it's not worth learning one of the most difficult languages for a marginally better experience + some obscure LNs. You'd have a point if the person learning japanese actually cared about the culture and not just the weebshit.

>do-mu
still at sub-n5 i see

I'm trying but Kanji is getting on my nerves
>You have to learn 54964597 runes that have many different meanings lmao

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with 1000 kanji you can read about 80% of anime

And I've just learned like 40 god damn it

you don't even know how to properly use certain english words

Kanji seems hard at first but the more you learn the more you see the patterns and logic in character construction.

Because there is no more DJT.
Back then it was perfect because I could learn Japanese with some Yea Forumsnons, but then it had to be purged. As of today I still ask myself why, why. It was my motivation seeing everyday the thread up as a reminder I have to study Japanese, but there is no more. It doesn't exist. This is too cruel.

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I stopped studying English so I tend to make these kind of mistakes

it still exists on /jp/

What's wrong with his sentence?

you didn't want to learn japanese, you wanted to feel part of a group who wants to learn japanese

Try Anki program. You can learn about 20 Kanji in a single day. Just pay attention to the strokes (in Kanji characters).

You might be watching childrens anime exclusively. This isn't accurate at all.

I mean a single episode. It is frequently based on household dialogue, like Ohayo and other stuff. When you want go deeper you can learn some extra Kanji

Daily Japanese Thread. It was moved to /int/ but the guides are the same.

Brainlet cope

i got interested in that one, can you show me an example of that?
(googled it but couldnt get anything to what i was thinking)

Good advice