Mahou Shoujo Tokushusen Asuka ch. 47

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>she's just there to be a magic sperm receptacle for Sekhmet and die
I think Sekhmet was just a project title because of the hunter connection. I'm sure nobody is hoping she'll die.

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So is the Queen Francine or not?

Maybe.

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My bet its a reanimated frankenstein monster out of all the dead magical girls possessed by the dias king. Or some shit. Queen being francine would be kinda boring and expected

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When Kurumi delivers her little speech about remembering the six who died, Abigail gets really angry. I thought she was just being impatient but Kurumi may have hit a nerve in some way and complicated how Abigail felt about fighting her.

dunno man, the story could go anywhere really

Nazani was extra cute this chapter

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>>either the final arc or close to it
>I doubt it.
I could see it being the final arc of this series specifically, and then a break and full on sequel set 5-10 years down the line I guess. Even if they win and shutting down the advance guard plans forestalls a bigger invasion, big theme of the series is that life still goes on and there are always new problems, just hopefully smaller ones (at least for a while).

>Queen being francine would be kinda boring and expected
Eh. I think this sentiment can get taken too far though sometimes, where it becomes "different" just for the sake of it, even if it doesn't actually fit. And you run the risk of going circular, where then suddenly everyone starts expecting a "twist" each time to the point where the twist itself becomes stale. I think "expected" sometimes is just fine if it's been foreshadowed, what really matters is how well its executed. What exactly are the reasons for it? How did it come about? How well are the emotions for everyone conveyed and develop? If it's executed well and you can see how everyone's actions are logical and everyone (who survives) develops in permanent ways, no bullshit reversions, then I don't think what scenario plays out matters much.

For this series at this point author has earned benefit of the doubt from me, I'll be curious however it plays out.

>check for updates before bed
>nothing
>go to bed
>get up and already missed first thread
damn it. thanks for linking op. liked the corpse dummy thing, thought at first that was her and whatever they'd injected her with was having that effect.

The fuck is up with that fork, though. Also Chisato's a cheeky fucker, considering she's an actual bootleg magical girl.

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>she's an actual bootleg magical girl
Nah just an illegal criminal one. Once they've been converted by whatever fairy, it's permanent apparently and no further connection is required, so magical girls can change sides freely by default.

Nazani was definitely cute though. But anyone who can't transform isn't a magical girl, they're mercs (or maybe they'll figure out some better name, it's amusing to see "title creep" turn up in the manga though just like it does IRL).

This chapter pretty much set up a precedent for Disas posession. Queen is probably similar to Sekmet in that regard, in this case possessing Francine's body.

She's unofficial, illegally-made, and all the second gen are weaker knockoffs of the first. Which is interesting in itself, why are they all weaker, anyway? For that matter, does relative magic power actually matter a shit, beyond maybe spamming multiple rollups successfully?

Doggo is always cute!

>This chapter pretty much set up a precedent for Disas posession. Queen is probably similar to Sekmet in that regard, in this case possessing Francine's body.
This is a series where mechanics matter though and we don't know enough yet about that. Like, can they use a dead body for possession, or must they be live? Does resistance play a part, because magical girls (even mercs to some extent) can shrug off magical interference that would instantly take over a normal person (which is why Kurumi had to use more power to torture nico).

I could see it going a lot of ways, from Francine just plain changing for some reason (could be for real, could be because she's planning to double agent the bigger war thing at a key moment), to full outright possession of her body (is it even Disas though, or are there further worlds out there?) maybe with some memories, to something in between where she agreed to possession/merger to save herself or accomplish some goal and is now a kind of hybrid.

Time to murderize some magical girls

>Like, can they use a dead body for possession, or must they be live?
We only have confirmation on 5 of the six dead girls, so that is a relevant point.

>is it even Disas though
Well, their supports are fairies...

oh yeah I trust the mangaka to put out a good conclusion to it. Everything seems to be created with a theme in mind no reason for doubt in the final stretches

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You couldn't even murderize a laptop.

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>She's unofficial, illegally-made, and all the second gen are weaker knockoffs of the first.
Nah, not "knockoffs" just discovered later. It's the same process as the originals, but now after the war and without dimensional bombs going off all the time and disrupting travel there are more fairies able to search and more time to do so.

>Which is interesting in itself, why are they all weaker, anyway?
Yeah, hard to say. It might not even mean anything though andjust be pure chance, or self-selection: the girls with the most raw magical potential (rather then capacity like what brigade was looking for) were simply the easiest to notice even from a distance, so the few (only? did best rat find all the original magical 11 or did we see another fairy in the original war?) fairies found them first purely for that reason. It wasn't random, these simply were the highest potential girls on the planet at that specific time. And there may be new ones who'd be stronger who are little kids right now or simply haven't been found yet. It's super rare, there are 7 billion people, not like there is comprehensive planetary screening at all or even in developed countries or else whiplash would have been found earlier.

>For that matter, does relative magic power actually matter a shit, beyond maybe spamming multiple rollups successfully?
We haven't seen many magical girl vs magical girl fights yet except amongst 1st gens, and even then most Kurumi, the weakest in raw attack power of the 5. Yet she still managed to win vs a 2nd gen combat type, and Asuka would have slaughtered scissor slut without the slightest difficulty if there hadn't been interference, and that's after slaughtering two skilled magic mercs 2v1 when she was pretty rusty after years of inaction.

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Time to place bets! Who's on the death roll?

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I don't see how magical power effects either of those fights you mentioned. It only helped against the mercs because rollups are a thing.

>We haven't seen many magical girl vs magical girl fights yet except amongst 1st gens, and even then most Kurumi, the weakest in raw attack power of the 5. Yet she still managed to win vs a 2nd gen combat type, and Asuka would have slaughtered scissor slut without the slightest difficulty if there hadn't been interference, and that's after slaughtering two skilled magic mercs 2v1 when she was pretty rusty after years of inaction.
Also, of course Phoenix just crushed Whiplash, even ignoring her speciality and changing to CQC she was still better in every single way including raw power. I don't think we've seen any 2nd gen girls yet pull of their supers, so don't know whether they have anything like laser beam or siege cannon or tornado generator or "literally slice through literally anything".

Probably the new magical girls. I doubt any of the main characters will die. And I don't think Sayako is gonna die either.

Claire and Tiger. I'd like to say Nazani since she doesn't seem to be going anywhere character-wise, but she's comic relief now.

>I don't see how magical power effects either of those fights you mentioned.
Endurance? Strength/speed?

>It only helped against the mercs because rollups are a thing.
She had to create the opening for that user. She fought them, took damage, used the rollup, then immediately was so overwhelmingly superior that she could just take the other out without any difficulty at that point, then immediately moved on to engage the hostile 2nd gen MG and still had no real threat from her.

I mean, hard to say without seeing how a friendly 2nd gen MG would have faired in that situation. But could easily see them becoming exhausted much sooner say. Or if their weapon is destroyed, taking much longer before they could resummon it.

none of the good guys or too many of them

>And I don't think Sayako is gonna die either.
At the risk of sounding like Kurumi, it would probably be better if she did. Asuka hasn't been ptsd enough lately, although maybe the upcoming carnage will 'fix' that.

>Endurance? Strength/speed?
I could just as easily attribute those to the massive amount of experience Kurumi and Asuka have which Whiplash and Abigail both lack. We haven't really seen any feats of strength beyond Tamara kicking Kurumi into a wall hard enough the shatter it and blocking a halloween from stomping her. It just never seems to be a factor in their fights beyond that.

>She had to create the opening for that user.
Not with her magical power.

>But could easily see them becoming exhausted much sooner say. Or if their weapon is destroyed, taking much longer before they could resummon it.
This is kind of what I assumed. So far it seems like the one who'd benefit most from that ring is Nazani, being the only one who's actually run of of juice.

It also just occured to me that Tabira said putting the ring on would fuck up your abilities for a while. Maybe the second artifact is to link Qween to Sayako so she can spam powers for days.

most of the bb. iron man dies after we find out what he is so revengemad about.

>Not with her magical power.
Yeah it was absolutely with her magical power. I mean are you serious, have you been reading manga so long you've forgotten how actual humans can move? The two mercs she fights are at least somewhat (very skilled/trained) human bound, and use their magic tools for higher speed stuff. But Asuka is herself moving so fast that the water spirit and two magic mercs combined have trouble keeping up. She jumps like 20 feet in the air (or follows the van that gets thrown up) no problem. Her shield is so much stronger that the merc's full overhand strike with a very strong magical axe (that later she can use far better) only creates a small crack.

Like, that's all magical power user. That's where an MG's superhuman abilities come from. And then while she says she expended a huge amount, she's not even breathing hard, and can immediately race off at superhuman speed. What do you mean "not with her magical power"?

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And how does any of that factor into their fights with other magical girls? She can do all of that because she's a magical girl, not because she's specifically a 1st gen, which is what's being discussed.

1st gen got to suckle on Tabira's tits so they're more powerful.
It also would explain why Francine was strongest girl because she would have no qualms in doing so on a regular basis.

That would explain a lot, but it doesn't explain why she isn't trying to fuck the 2nd gens all the time. Maybe she has to submit requests.

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So-Yeon and Claire will die, Jade will almost get killed but be saved just in time by Mia, and then Jade will glue herself to Mia while squealing onee-sama incessantly.

>BB are a French girl and an English girl
Jade and Claire.

Maybe 2nd gen has a different, less powerful mama.

>And how does any of that factor into their fights with other magical girls?
Because more magical power would mean more of just plain everything? More speed, more strength, more damage resistance, more magic resistance, stronger, and the ability to just plain keep fighting longer? I'm genuinely not sure exactly what you're expecting here out of "1st gen have more magic power then any discovered 2nd gen so far", it's more then just their super moves.

I'm expecting it to actually mean something we can see. You're just assuming it does all those things listed but we don't see any evidence for it. Bigger reserves makes sense, but other than that it doesn't seem to mean anything in practice.

They just have the most magical power.

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>Abigail getting that cuck feeling from watching Qweeeen with another girl
Could you be any more of a thematic counterpart?

Yes, and my original question was, 'what does that mean in practise'? Because the answer is apparently 'nothing'.

FAT war COW

never forget

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>fat

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It means you get cute 2nd gen fangirls who want to bed you.

If you're looking for fat, look for Jelly Abby, who's jelly over glasses and who recently has jelly rolls on her belly according to Queen.

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>picks Kurumi's counterpart
Possibly the worst example to use.

Jade won't die because she has the power to blend into her surroundings.

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when are we getting more 4komas, i really like them

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*kind war ANGEL

She deserves to die for those shoes.

Peipei skin suit was hilarious.

Never.

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In a pinch she will just ditch them along with the rest of her clothes and meld with the floor tile pattern, like in

>naked Jade

Wait I forgot my image to convey my feelings on the matter.

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Abbi should just team up with Kurumi on that matter.

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>I'm expecting it to actually mean something we can see
But we can actually see their super human capability, and that they're able to beat powerful enemies and stomp all over any 2nd gen girl we've seen so far.

>But we can actually see their super human capability
Again, that's just magical girls in general. Nobody's saying they fight like normal girls.

>and stomp all over any 2nd gen girl we've seen so far.
Who have no combat experience.

Recently, I have been so starved for content I've been trawling through internet bins for it. What I have largely discovered is salt.

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>Go watch Princess Tutu. And Ojamajo Doremi.
Based.

This. Match made in heaven.

>animes

I can't believe Armenian Nico is just a generic unbranded MG.

>Again, that's just magical girls in general.
And again, the DEGREE of that is different. All magical girls are superior to normal humans, and they're also superior in general to magical mercs (though mercs who are smart and make use of their specialty can match some MG at that one special thing or if they make use of terrain or whatever). But just as all regular humans are superior to infants but there are major differences between adults anyway, not every MG is equally strong and that's tied to magical power, because that's what fuels everything they are. Like if a 2nd gen girl is able to exert 700 lbs of force vs a 1st gen who can exert 1500 lbs of force due to more magical power, both of them are obviously super human, but that doesn't mean the 1st gen isn't at a clear advantage.

>Who have no combat experience.
Abigail definitely had combat experience. Whiplash started as a martial artist, did at least a little training under BB, then fought the one battle again JSDF, then did a number of missions and took down at least one serious very experienced combat magical merc before facing off against Phoenix. And experience alone doesn't account for the level of destruction we see the M5 put out repeatedly vs any of the others.

>I know I'm right despite having no actual evidence to support my position.
How did this manifest while Kurumi fought Chisato?

>Abigail definitely had combat experience.
We haven't seen evidence of that and she acts the exact opposite of it.

>Whiplash started as a martial artist, did at least a little training under BB, then fought the one battle again JSDF, then did a number of missions and took down at least one serious very experienced combat magical merc before facing off against Phoenix.
That's all trivial shit except for the base assault where she fought one fight and lost, not due to differences in magical power I might add. Tamara on the other hand has a shit-ton of actual combat experience.

>And experience alone doesn't account for the level of destruction we see the M5 put out repeatedly vs any of the others.
I think you're underestimating how much of a disadvantage being a rookie puts you at.

>How did this manifest while Kurumi fought Chisato?
What? Like I already wrote, Kurumi is by far the weakest in direct combat of the M5. She was shown that way repeatedly right from the very intro, where she is caught off guard by an enhanced Halloween class. She's ultra valuable as a support and effects mage, but she needs one of the others on the front line in front of her. Yet she solo beat Chisato, a heavy close range combat specialist who had trapped them in a tight small magical arena, by tanking tons of damage from her and then physically overpowering her before finishing it with a OKO syringe.

>We haven't seen evidence of that and she acts the exact opposite of it.
Yeah we have and no she doesn't.

>That's all trivial shit except for the base assault where she fought one fight and lost, not due to differences in magical power I might add.
No, none of it is trivial shit and she lost in part due to differences in magical power.

>I think you're underestimating how much of a disadvantage being a rookie puts you at.
I think you're underestimating how much of a disadvantage flat out being weaker puts you at.

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I think 'bootleg' fits perfectly. Magical Girl piracy is a serious issue that needs to be addressed.

I'll add that being able to generate things in violation of mass/energy conservation is also a use of magical power. Kurumi's (and the others) ability to generate/modify consumables or regenerate herself or others are also the result of her magical power.

does disas use denuvo?

Tell me about it, billions of dollars in sales of MG kits are lost due to all these pirates.

>Yet she solo beat Chisato, a heavy close range combat specialist who had trapped them in a tight small magical arena, by tanking tons of damage from her and then physically overpowering her before finishing it with a OKO syringe.
Her tanking isn't a result of her being 1st gen, it's just her schtick. She didn't 'physically overpower' her, Chisato just doesn't understand magical comabt due to her lack of combat experience, and thought that sitting on her was a pin, which it isn't when both parties are strong enough that weight doesn't matter. You could have that entire fight with Kurumi also being 2nd gen and it would still make sense without needing to invoke 1st-gen super-strength like you're doing. Apart from anything else, Chisato is obviously faster.

>Yeah we have and no she doesn't.
You're going to have to refresh my memory about all those fights and missions we've seen her do except for the one where she fought Kurumi, had to get her two Disas to do most of the heavy lifting, and then lost her cool and had no counter when things started to go against her. She's probably been sparring but that's no substitute for actual combat.

>o, none of it is trivial shit and she lost in part due to differences in magical power.
It completely fucking is, and you even had to insert 'a number of missions' in there that are complete bullshit.

>and she lost in part due to differences in magical power.
That's your contention but once again, you have zero evidence to support that position beyond the fact that she lost, which also supports my position that she's just a scrub.

>I think you're underestimating how much of a disadvantage flat out being weaker puts you at.
Got some evidence to support that? No?

Magical girls have magical powers, huh?

She's not even a magical girl since she can't do shit without her fire stick while real magical girls can do shit even without their toys.

Whatever user, you can invent your own head canon if you want. But this series is thankfully not dbz/naruto/bleach and the differences in having more magical power are clear but not beating the reader in the face, nor is magic in general impossibly overpowered versus regular tech.

>She's not even a magical girl since she can't do shit without her fire stick
More that she can't transform, period.

>while real magical girls can do shit even without their toys.
Also can create their tools out of nothing and regen/resummon them if they're destroyed, given enough time.

You don't get to bleat 'head canon' at me when you're the one pulling a load of shit out of your ass.

Okay this is just pure autism.

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>Denmark is a permanent magic council member
What did they do to deserve a permanent member? US, UK, France, Russia nad China are the original big 5 and all of them except possibly bongland (I forget some of the nationalities of the original members) had members in the original 9 and Japan has two, but we haven't heard shit from Denmark's magical girl (Also, Germany and Mexico had members of the original 9 but are non-permanent members)

That's where the other permanent gate is.

>Denmark
Ah right, that would explain it.

Mia is from Texas, and Texas is part of Mexico.

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>You don't get to bleat 'head canon' at me when you're the one pulling a load of shit out of your ass.
No user. Actual repeatedly stated canon is that the first gen magical girls and M5 in particular have way more magic power then any others so far discovered. You're the one trying to claim otherwise. I'm saying in this series the effects of that are more subtle then in others, but they're still there because magic power is literally behind every single superhuman thing MG do, it's the general fuel. Having more of it means more options, being able to go longer, recover from mistakes, and so on.

No we don't have tons of context yet, but we do have some and what we've seen bears that out. You keep claiming somehow this isn't the case and making excuses for why 2nd gen MG are somehow just as good. Despite always losing and never showing off the kind of endurance or power at the M5. It's your problem.

>But this series is thankfully not dbz/naruto/bleach
>magical powerlevels are what matter, not actual skill and experience
user what the fuck are you even saying.

She was already a bootleg Nico before she became a magical girl bootleg.

>had members in the original 9
Not disagreeing with the rest but it's 11 user.

>Also, Germany and Mexico had members of the original 9 but are non-permanent members
Like the actual UNSC it has more to do with strength/value at the time formed rather then historical.

Though one thing that doesn't seem to really fit (maybe the author abandoned this thread) is that there are supposed to be a few hundred MG if I remember right worldwide, counting both registered and unregistered. Or at least that's what Japan guessed. So that might be a hand wave too, some of those countries might have a bunch they're keeping under wraps officially but everyone knows they've got them. Though like I said maybe that's been dropped because otherwise you'd expect to see at least a few dozen of them summoned for this meeting, even if disguised.

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>Actual repeatedly stated canon is that the first gen magical girls and M5 in particular have way more magic power then any others so far discovered. You're the one trying to claim otherwise.
You are actually retarded, aren't you?

>Having more of it means more options, being able to go longer, recover from mistakes, and so on.
Source: your ass, and not borne out by the actual manga.

>what we've seen bears that out. You keep claiming somehow this isn't the case and making excuses for why 2nd gen MG are somehow just as good. Despite always losing and never showing off the kind of endurance or power at the M5. It's your problem.
>they're just as good
>they lack skill and experience
Pick one and stick with it retard.

We really don't know anything about MG recruitment. For all we know the fairy officials might be restricting the supply so the criminal black market taking up 10 times as much market share would make sense. I doubt governments would bend those rules to acquire their own because of the trade access they'd risk losing. Ain't nobody making their own orichalcum

>>magical powerlevels are what matter, not actual skill and experience
Man if you're going to be a jackass who just invents strawman then yeah, just stick to your own head canon and be happy with that.

Otherwise, I never said that. I said that magical power levels make a DIFFERENCE, not that they matter exclusively. And that we see combat situations where that difference shows up and, alongside everything else, helps tip the scales a bit. Since it's a world where it's subtle, it's not definitive alone, experience but also type compatibility and the terrain/situation being fought in (arguably influenced by experience in some cases, but also by prep of the enemy or just luck). But neither is it non-existent.

In my opinion, first gen having more magical power just means that whatever magic they specialise in, they can do it better than hypothetical 2nd gens that have the same magical specialty.
Say, compared to Kurumi, a 2nd gen support could heal/poison, but to a lesser extent.
Or compared to Mia, maybe a similar 2nd gen might have a much shorter-ranged clairvoyance.
Or in Tamara's case, they'd have a smaller flame AoE and are less masochistic.
Less pedo than PeiPeidophile.
Less broken than Asuka.

>You are actually retarded, aren't you?
Nice projection.

>Source: your ass, and not borne out by the actual manga.
Literally shown in the manga, sorry it conflicts with your head canon.

user, you haven't shown a single instance of magical power mattering a shit that can't be just as easily explained by experience. Either put up or get out.

>Nice projection.
I didn't claim they didn't have more magical power. I said they don't seem to derive a practical benefit from it. Reading comprehension.

If Nazani dies, she'll have to die like a dog.

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Mia is going to be jaded after this whole incident, in more ways than one.

>We really don't know anything about MG recruitment.
True, but
>For all we know the fairy officials might be restricting the supply so the criminal black market taking up 10 times as much market share would make sense.
This doesn't make sense though from what we've seen of the fairy force, they seem pretty friendly and generally decent. Though it's possible that a lot of the MG are made by rogue fairies, like Chisato was.

>I doubt governments would bend those rules to acquire their own because of the trade access they'd risk losing.
Definitely good point that the Fairy alliance wields a big negotiating stick there, but on the other hand they were apparently surprised by how powerful some human MG are, particularly the M5 that they said were unprecedentedly strong. And disas (and maybe others) are their enemies. Since they're a NATO style collective defense organization from the sound of it, they're probably always looking for more members and material support. So they may be hoping strongly that humanity will stay decent/friendly at least in part, and at some point come far enough to join up as members and contribute back themselves. Which would be kind of cool actually.

Big no-no seem to be the Disas-style bioweapon stuff, presumably other magic WMD type things too. Other issues are probably more negotiable depending, just like IRL.

>you haven't shown a single instance of magical power mattering a shit that can't be just as easily explained by experience
Every single instance I've shown was magical power mattering. Experience alone doesn't let you soak up way more damage or do way more damage.

>I said they don't seem to derive a practical benefit from it
And I said and showed that they did seem to derive practical benefit from it.

>Either put up or get out.
I'm stating canon, you guys aren't. Want to show it doesn't matter? Show the 2nd gen girl who fights enhanced halloween or stuff like that dragon or even mercs and punches through everything like we see the M5 do. If you can't do that you have no grounds to claim it makes no difference.

>This doesn't make sense though from what we've seen of the fairy force, they seem pretty friendly and generally decent.
That's how diplomacy works, even if you're being a douche. If they're not restricting the supply, why are there ten times as many girls being detected and recruited by criminals than by governments?

>I'm stating my headcanon is canon, you guys aren't.
>Want to show it doesn't matter? Show the 2nd gen girl who fights enhanced halloween or stuff like that dragon or even mercs and punches through everything like we see the M5 do.
Because that proves the difference is in magical power as opposed to skill and experience how exactly?

>why are there ten times as many girls being detected and recruited by criminals than by governments?
What, where did you get that from? My recollection of that page was that "unregistered" did not necessarily mean criminal at all, or at least not criminal as-in unassociated with a government (I guess technically Chisato is definitely a criminal and engages in criminal behavior since black wet work tends to be that way at least somewhere, but I mean she's not with the mob). Or maybe some are freelance mercs like Peipei, but the work they take follows some standards or is affiliated with a government.

They keep throwing 'up to 300' around as a statistic. The legality seems to be determined by the magical security council registering them, and if they aren't, then they're illegal, which given how often it gets mentioned is presumably not irrelevant. Since the only other source of MG's seems to be random gates and smuggling, that only leaves criminals doing it.

>Because that proves the difference is in magical power as opposed to skill and experience how exactly?
Are you saying "skill and experience" is what lets Mia punch through assault helicopters and solid matter repeatedly without issues including getting tired, or Asuka just stand there and stop an attack swing from an enhanced halloween, or cut through the dragon, or what? FFS. Every super human thing they do is powered by magical power I don't know why you'd find this hard, that's how this setting works. So if you want to claim it makes no difference, show an MG of the same type that is established to have less power (so any 2nd gen MG) who can do all the exact same things for just as long.

Simple as that. You seem really assured of it so this shouldn't be a hard lift right?

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>then they're illegal, which given how often it gets mentioned is presumably not irrelevant
Right, but I'm trying to draw a line between "illegal" and "criminal", or maybe it'd make more sense to use different language? Like, "out of control" or "terroristic" or something? Because governments have always had plenty of reasons for wanting semi-deniable, secret unregistered forces at their disposal, but said forces are usually at least meant to be under some level of control. The CIA say got up to lots of bad shit in the 50s and 60s in particular, but at least in theory it was still supposed to be answerable the US and working towards American goals and it was still a scandal for the US when it fucked up badly enough and got caught.

MG are really really ideal for black ops if you think about it, arguably that may be where they shine the most vs big maneuver warfare, particularly in a relatively peaceful world. Or at least a MAD world, where major power hot wars are still considered something to avoid. So it'd make sense if governments mostly preferred to keep their MG under wraps for use in black ops, and to give them a freer hand period.

also
>Or at least a MAD world, where major power hot wars are still considered something to avoid.
If a hostile enemy power REALLY wanted to fuck up Earth, they could probably just freely give everyone some sort of magic field generator that suppressed nuclear reactions within its area of effect. Suddenly no more mutual nuke threat, and shit would that shake up the international scene a bit in, interesting, ways.

>Are you saying "skill and experience" is what lets Mia punch through assault helicopters and solid matter repeatedly without issues including getting tired,
No and I don't know how retarded you'd have to be to come to that conclusion.

>or Asuka just stand there and stop an attack swing from an enhanced halloween
No and I don't know how retarded you'd have to be to come to that conclusion.

>Every super human thing they do is powered by magical power I don't know why you'd find this hard
You keep saying this but it only becomes apparent when they're fighting mercs. You never catch 2nd gen bitching in their heads about how much stronger or faster or tougher they are, but they never do anything that illustrates it either. Your position is just 'well they won so I'm right' which is childish.

>So if you want to claim it makes no difference, show an MG of the same type that is established to have less power (so any 2nd gen MG) who can do all the exact same things for just as long.
I see you have passed the burden of proof, except my position is actually 'we haven't seen any evidence that it makes a difference', so actually you have to prove it does.

Remember when Chisato is planning to fight Tamara, and she goes over what went wrong with Kurumi, and how to face Tamara in light of that? What was the problem? It's not magical power, strength, speed or shieldiness, it's carelessness. The problem she sees with tamara isn't speed or strength or toughness due to being holy 1st-gen, it's the fact that she has a flamethrower.

Well, to be honest I was basing my opinion on this page, which does make it sound like either you're registered or you're a terrorist, but I suppose that's not the only way to look at it.

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>THIS will end up as roadkill

This new evil chick is pretty cute.

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me on the left btw

I dig the monkey earrings

We keeping her or killing her off?

You're girlier than the loli.

no way she hasn't sung her song yet

>which does make it sound like either you're registered or you're a terrorist, but I suppose that's not the only way to look at it.
Nah that definitely isn't it, because of Chisato right there. Sure she WAS a terrorist, but then she joined the Japanese military to essentially pay off her crime debts through service like the old days, but was still unregistered.

Actually, she's a good illustration for another reason why governments might prefer unregistered: I doubt torture/threats and then essentially enslavement (including a kill collar) is officially legal in most of the first world, even in that universe. MG who join through legit channels, who were good (or at least Not Bad) from the start, are more often or always registered and both are a fighting force but also good PR, can officially deploy to fight Disas and so on. But they might in turn help capture criminal MG, which given their rarity and value governments would then want to serve through any means necessary. But said means could well be illegal themselves, or if not illegal technically (somethingsomething war authorization emergency act somethingsomething) than unsavory and cause activists to get all protest-y. Having them unofficial might avoid some of that?

the song of her people?

>Sure she WAS a terrorist, but then she joined the Japanese military to essentially pay off her crime debts through service like the old days, but was still unregistered.
Well, that wasn't long ago and they're trying to register her now. They could just not bother if it was that advantageous, putting aside the fact that in her specific case Miura clearly intends to deploy her in urban areas where she's going to be seen. They did say there might be an unofficial inquiry, which I took to mean 'don't mention the torture abuse and conditioning and we won't mention the ten dead cops.' I'm sure they would prefer unregistered assets, but they'd be a huge risk. I honestly figured the registration stuff was just a stick to beat people with if they didn't want to work for the government. i mean, who gives a shit what the UN thinks normally?

Well, Chisato didn't get tortured. Kurumi only tortured Nazani.

Well okay 'don't mention the torture and abuse of this little girl or the fact that we put a bomb collar on you and conscripted you and we won't mention the assault on a military base, the four murders and the terrorist attack on Naha.'

Salt, you say?

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>If a hostile enemy power REALLY wanted to fuck up Earth, they could probably just freely give everyone some sort of magic field generator that suppressed nuclear reactions within its area of effect. Suddenly no more mutual nuke threat, and shit would that shake up the international scene a bit in, interesting, ways.
this would make for some great /k/. would like to see this setting done now. all of a sudden no more nukes on major population centers or bases (maybe still works tactically, like field takes tons of power, only covers a few miles around). let the great games begin again holy shit.

She forgot to mention that Kurumi is cute. Cute!

Behead those who insult War Angel.

She sure is.

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So what animal will she be broken into? Looks kinda like a potential cat to me.

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Holy shit, kill it with fire.

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I was thinking it'd also be "keep our secrets and we won't unleash Kurumi on you" too, but then realized that if such threats were needed it'd be a bad idea to risk it at all. But she's pretty well turned at this point and was fucked over by BB pretty hard in the first place turning her, and the government actually should be used to that even. I've read that's a classic child soldier/mob/cultist type thing, making them do some crime against innocents so that if they ever think to go and confess they're guilty too.

It's still a risk though in a democracy, because of domestic politics if nothing else. Government might say "we'll ignore your crimes" but that also creates a blackmail point if it's secret, because relatives would still be angry, people would still be mad about a cop killer terrorist traitor who "got away with it." It'd have to be finessed fairly carefully, play up the "tricked/forced into it as a child by the REAL terrorists" angle, also play up the "volunteered for very dangerous work fighting back against said terrorists" angle, play down the rest. But some opposition figures might still cause trouble anyway.

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>I watched this with cliche expectations that were not met, and now I am upset. I need my simplistic aesops or I cannot cope
Jesus fucking christ lady.

Not be completely destroyed in the war.
Viking blood stronk
>ywn plunder the divas world with your danish bros

>Not be completely destroyed in the war.
now that you mention it wonder what the overall damage actually was and how evenly it was distributed globally. japan probably got hit hard cause of the topology bridge, but where else? 3rd world easier to attack, but also in turn strategically less valuable.

be nice to have some world flavor chapter at some point, some strategic global map giving an overview of damage and major strategic actions during the war.

To be fair, Kurumi's characterization in the anime was shit too. They diverted too much from the manga. Kurumi is supposedly to be merciless, but she doesn't go out of her way to harm people. She doesn't perform unauthorized torture or interrogation. She's a pro working for the government after all. In the anime they treated her as a joke character.

>why isn't Kurumi working hard for all the normal people
Too busy reee'ing at ep.8 to be able to answer your own question I see. Although really I'm just kind of glad to see any sort of recognition that this series exists outside of Yea Forums. I wish it was more popular.

*supposed to

>I wish it was more popular.
I think it embraces its niche, you kind of need a certain amount of /k/ommando or TBS/Grand Strat autism as well as liking anime and knowing it to really get the most out of the author's attention to detail. Like it was pretty cool in previous chapters to realize how much thought had gone into some of the weapon usage or general mechanics, but no way is that something any random would get.

Also like said typical anime adaption issues just compound it. Wasn't even that bad for a budget adaption honestly, but they still clearly didn't know what they were dealing with. Or maybe thought they could make it "broader appeal" by going overly hard on the funny bits rather then the professionalism aspect.

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They decided to work Sayako and Nozomi in more and part of that seemed to be more shipping. I get why they thought there was room for expansion but they didn't make either of them more interesting characters in the process. The direction is all over the place, really.

and yet it was still a better adaption then berserk got

whatever its flaws, there is a reason a lot of us stick to Yea Forums anyway vs anywhere else

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>bomb collar
More like Kurumi Magical Sex Drug collar.

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KWEH

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The perfect ending.

I can't believe we are seeing Sacchu's friend now.

Thats literally Gundam though.

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