Fate/stay night

almost done heavens feel.
so, the original point of the holy grail war by the einzbern is to just make servants and let them die so the winner of the holy grail can become an ascended being?
the wish is just a side thing?
how did they manage to fit all the info dumping from heavens feel in the movies, didn't watch them yet.

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The scene you reference will be in third movie.

I hope you've been collecting those Ilya points, onii-chan.
Actually I hope not, because you should do normal end first.

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>wiki
I know.

i'm at the start of day 16, but i think it doesn't matter since you can choose normal or true?

i thought i had to go back and treat illya like shit, but it seems you have a choice as long as you have illya points

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Einzberns wanted the 3rd magic. Originally grail could grant wishes of winner but now it's corrupted.

oh i see, so they just want to summon the servants to let them die and make a pathway to the swirl of origin so the einzbern can retrieve the third magic.

Yes, the whole grail part is just to attact the servants so they can dei to gather enough magical energy to get to 3rd magic. It's basically a giant honeypot. It's mostly Einzbern's project, but they still needed help from Matou's and Tohsaka's,

It's been corrupted, but as far as I recall it still grants wishes.

It's just collecting magical energy to grant a wish of birthing angry manjew ever since his soul got into the grail in 3rd war.

I think it's canon that the wish from 4th grail war was granted.

They only really needed the Tohsaka's land, they are kind of irrelevant.
It was always mostly a project between the Matou and the Einzbern really.

it grants wishes but destruction always too.

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It still technically grants wishes. The wishes just get twisted into whatever benefits Angry Manjew the most (usually "kill everyone").

Well, yes. That's the corruption and catch, but it'd be still inaccurate to imply that it doesn't grant wishes anymore.

Well, if I recall correctly isn't it mostly Einzbern's magic by origin and despite Matou's involvement their lineage has decayed a lot, so that leaves them mostly out?

What's wrong with the Type-Moon wiki? I see people shit on it all the time but I don't get specifically what it does wrong.

It's the same as with any other wiki. It's compiled by people and most people don't really know that much and in case of fate rely on 2nd grade fan translations.

I wouldn't know any better anyway, so it doesn't bother me, but it's still better to take it with a grain of salt.

Literally the same question but speaking of which, what's so wrong about the Mirror Moon translations? I see people shit on them all the time but I don't get what they specifically do wrong.

Hey I read the VN almost 10 years ago.

The reason why the grail finally worked as intended is because all of angra's shit leaked out/was relocated via Sakura right?

I just finished the first movie, it skips a fucking lot of infodumps and assumes you're familiar with the movie or at least have watched Zero and UBW.

Honestly if Fate ever gets an adaptation I hope it's done by people as passionate as the ones who made this.

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familiar with the material*

Really the only problems I have with the film is it skips over Archer vs Lancer in the school, Lancer killing Shirou, Tohsaka reviving Shirou, Saber's summon and the CG in the Lancer v Assassin fight.

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A lot of the problem is simple verbage. The language used is austere to the point of not fitting the writing style of Nasu. There also are meant to have been some bloopers and ways of being translated that introduce misunderstandings. That whole ordeal with molestors for example.

I recall that one post trying to more accurately translate the opening and how it is just unlike what it's translated as.

While the translation might be accurate, as a matter of fact, to a decent degree, it just doesn't do justice to the writing style, giving people incorrect impressions and generally low appreciation. You're just not reading the same thing Nasu wrote by a long mile and while that's naturally the case in any translations it really is quite huge in this one as far as I could tell.

There's also the obvious issue of the VN being heavily Japanese, so it's just difficult to convey properly what is being said as it also relies on the reader being familiar with the culture and its references and its importance in general.

>Honestly if Fate ever gets an adaptation I hope it's done by people as passionate as the ones who made this.
I just hope it's as good as UBW.
The UBW adaptation exceeded ALL of my expectations.

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You have to finish true before you get the choice, it's better just to reach limit vs Saber so you read normal end first

That's my favorite part about it actually. It's the adaptation of the 3rd route and it doesn't hide that fact. It cuts all the fat and entirely expects you to have been following along with the franchise to at least some extent. Especially considering that they went with the movie route, I feel like it would only bog things down to dwell on information that we should already be more than familiar with by now, especially considering that most of it is irrelevant in this route anyway considering that the entire war gets fucked up.

First you play the games.
Then you watch the movies.
Then you throw all that out the window because Grand Order gives you a superior kouhai and Fuyuki is never spoken of again.

Welcome to TYPEMOON.

>this post
Congratulations, my soul died a little.
Grand Order is shit, but then again, so is your taste. Mash is a cardboard cutout just like every Gachaonly character.

Go back

Not even the third magic will save my soul from the tertiaries

Fuck Nasu for not making more fate stuff

I can't really make my mind up if I agree with you or not, I don't really dislike those changes but I think they could've been handled a little differently than just being scenes in the intro credits, at the very least I think Saber's summon should've had her first in it.

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first line*

This is not /vn/ you know.

>Brother and Sister
Why is Shirou such a siscon?

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