ITT: Characters that saved their respective series from being total, irredeemable trash.
ITT: Characters that saved their respective series from being total, irredeemable trash
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>Shippuuden character saving Naruto
But it was the best in Part 1 though? Stop being a contrarian.
I was talking about Shippuden???
>*Kills your main villian*
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kill yourself narutard
What is it about Madara that makes him so cool and charming as a character? I can't quite put my finger on it.
he wasn't just a Uchillia, he was THE Uchillia
>Uchiha
He was part of the problem.
>t. Tobirama
Fuck you 2nd hokage.
i miss him bros
The actual best boy and should've been MC.
He wasn't as one dimensional as say Aizen who was 'Keikaku Dori, Keikaku Dori' over and over.
Madara had a more established end goal, showed multiple emotions other than stotic villain badass, especially when he fought actually challenging opponents like Edo Hashirama, Guy and Naruto and Sauske.
Plus 'But what the SECOND meteor?'
Is Sasuke as strong as Madara was in his prime now?
Without question.
probably
call me when he can use Tengai Shinsei
Stop spamming your shitty thread, Narutard
This arc was best
>Plus 'But what the SECOND meteor?'
Absolute Kino moment.
Onoki was robbed of a Kino death.
But the real answer to the OP is Obito.
>>*Kills your main villian*
she didn't kill him. Madara was her reincarnation.
He's based enough to at least get his own spin off damnit
He can, his rinnegan is stronger than madara's.
A great character surrounded by plastic people
Half the jokes i Gabriel Droput revolve around Satania. Shit, I love her, but Raphi is basically there exclusively to set up jokes involving Satania.
Also, I want to be her toilet.
>DAE thinks that NARUTO is bad
>XD XD XD XD lollololololol
>Also ban me mods
This so much
Too bad the author doesn't give him the love he deserves.
He was average at best in his introduction arc after that he became fairy tail's little bitch which in turn made him another worthless boring character.
These two
Saved the series from cancellation.
I love Madara so much!
Damn wrong picture
Based Kaguya getting rid of him.
Their gay adventures are the only reason I checked out those Boruto eps.
Based. Also Mirai's gay adventure with TenTen
Absolutely based opinion. Obito's character was just layers upon layers of narrative irony and callback kino.
>last thing he does is make it in time
>last thing he does is save his comrades which is the only thing he ever wanted in the first place
>last person he saves is kakashi, just like at kannabi bridge
>saving me is the same as the saving the whole world
>minato stops kakashi from killing him and he immediately saves naruto
>naruto revives him and he immediately saves sasuke
>sakura heals him and he immediately saves naruto, sasuke, and kakashi again
>arm crushed by rocks leading to the worst moment of his life, failing to make it in time to protect rin
>unlocks mangekyou sharingan ability which lets him instantly make it in time to any location
>can also use that ability to phase through objects
>only with both eyes together can you unlock true power, right madara?
>that's right, now gimme the rinnegan
>i'm talking about these eyes
The examples go on and on. Unironically the best writing Kishimoto ever did, even in spite of the war arc clusterfuck. It's still Kishi writing, but moments like these start to make up for the shit writing elsewhere.
Kaguya loves Madara!
Mirai's pretty good too. Would watch a spinoff with these three.
Please read the chapters again, you're wrong about her "killing" him and/or "getting rid" of him.
It's not even made a secret how Kaguya and Madara were related and you still managed to misunderstand.
Kiba is cute.
Still got rid of his annoying ass. Don't care how or why. He was gone and that's all that matters.
Please don't be mean to Madara, he only did what he thought was best.
Her will defeated his and he died as a result. The Juubi is Kaguya's will incarnate. There was no "relationship" to speak of, he was the Juubi jinchuuriki, that's it. Taking over the host is what the bijuu do. The Juubi tried to take over Obito but failed, the Kyuubi tried to take over Naruto several times and failed, and Kumogakure had training grounds to help jinchuuriki stop bijuu from taking over their hosts. In all cases the jinchuuriki's will must triumph over the bijuu's to prevent the bijuu from taking over. You can argue semantics all you want but she defeated him.
Madara is far more complex than that. He really wanted to end conflicts in the ninja world, but got addicted to the battles and conflicts.
He's more disappointed that the current generations are all scrubs who can be beaten by his shadow clones, then warriors like the First Hokage.
She wasn't the main villain?
She's too cute to be a villain, silly.
I still find it hilarious this series was some shitty rom com highschool manga that was going to get canceled at like chapter 15, then the author suddenly makes it a full battle shonen and it instantly gained massive popularity
shouldn't have been an obnoxious uchiha then
/y/ go home
Remainder:Kakashi is the best character and he should have been MC
Naruto doesn't know that Kiba got fuck his wife's godly pussy, not everyday you get a submissive girl as your teammate. What better way to show you are the alpha?
Until she became plastic too
I know... he is too good to be an Uchiha. Madara Otsutsuki is so much better
She was, she just needed more foreshadowing and her own separate arc instead of the tail end of an arc that already had like four other antagonists.
delet this
>kiba
>alpha
That was an entire team of betas if there ever was one. Every single Kiba scene is "wtf why is no one listening to me, I'm gonna be Hokage too!" Every single Hinata scene is "N-Naruto-kun!" Every single Shino scene someone is talking over him.
He was capable of backing up his own hype but also acknowledging when he is matched rather than cry or throw a tantrum like most of his type of villains do.
They were badass in the forest of death though. Literally just killed some niggas to get the scroll
>never won a fight against wood man except that one time when edo tensei wood man defeated him but then he got rinne tensei'd
>backing up his own hype
We all know you cheat on Nort on his back,even after the marriage Hinata.
Kiba is more alpha than Hinata,that is what matters. If I was in his position,I would mark all over her enough to make her forget who Naruto is.
Not just any random people either, they killed fellow Konoha ninja. They were so cold-blooded the anime had to change their opponents to be from some other village.
She wasn't needed at all, even Hagoromo would have made more sense as a final antagonist
Imagine if Harry Potter were written like Naruto
>Voldemort is the main villain
>Actually Grindelwald
>Actually Slytherin is the main villain
>Actually Rowena Ravenclaw is the main villain
>Actually Morgana is the main villain
Also
>You're a horocrux, Harry!
>Also horocruxes are now characters
>Also they're now good
You all thought this was a normal shounen anime?
That was all a part of my plan.
Who is even the Voldemort of Naruto? Orochimaru, Sasuke or Obito?
>Kiba is more alpha than Hinata
Doubtful
Obviously he is an alpha. Naruto is a beta male that doesn't even realize he is getting cucked lmao.
Kiba is the only boy in class who was more of a loser than Naruto, and whereas Naruto became ninja jesus Kiba stayed a loser.
>Naruto is a beta male
Konoha literally had to put guards at the front of the village because woman were traveling hundreds of miles just to look at him. He is the gigachad of the series like it or not.
>went to insane lengths to escape death and suffering only to die younger than average for his lifestyle
Obito
Haha imagine the loser fucking your wife when you aren't home. Hinata was meant for Kiba,too bad Kishimoto is too much of a hack to pull it off.
His life is more like Obito, but his actual character was more like Orochimaru.
Come here and Bend over. I'll mark you.
>dog person
>marries a literal who cat person
JUST
How shit does your life have to be that you self insert as the character whose life is a literal gag in the series just because of how meaningless it is.
Guards are to protect Hinata,Naruto just couldn't stop Raikages numerous attempts to kidnap her by himself.
No im talking about after the final war when Naruto became jesus there were hundreds of fangirls lined up in the front of konoha just to see him.
he lost against hashirama on purpose though speedreader
Imagine the wars that would've been fought if Naruto was a girl.
He didn't though he just got lucky and stole some dna without Hashirama noticing. At the end he got what he wanted but he did not want to lose that battle.
Wrong. He needed the flesh, but he didn't have to lose on purpose. He could have killed him and taken the flesh or he could have survived and fled and then taken the flesh. He was a jobber.
Hinata is a bunny person. Hana is a catgirl but that is what makes it good.
Atleast he had a fight against the Naruto and only lost because plot armor and His fight with Sakon was Kino.
Did the anime only put on an effort for Kakashi vs Obito and Nardo vs Sauce?
>Lost to a literal fart
Thanks for reminding me how pathetic he really was.
Even in his fight with Sakon he had to get bailed out by the sand village.
Holy shit,how fucking great could have the relationship been. Just imagine all the fanart.
>implying this wouldn't happen if Naruto was female.
yes
Sel insert? I'm not evern the Kibafag,I just thought they had more chemistry together and made way more fucking sense than what we got. Naruto never deserved Hinata.
>I just thought they had more chemistry together
How? We literally never saw them interact besides fillershit from the anime.
Those were the only fights that mattered. Actually Madara vs. the Allied Forces was sakuga too, which I always find funny because he was literally just beating up fodder and acting smug about it. Then Temari gets the first hit on him. Temari.
They were in the same team and had many missions together.
>but that's forbidden jutsu
Wasn't he a NaruHina shipper in the filler? He teased her about Naruto a few times.
That we never saw. You are just inserting your own fan fiction into the story.
And then he just dusts the sand off his shoulder
Yeah he was, Kiba was a bro in filler for the most part.
He warned her not to fight Neji after he got btfo by Naruto and he went with her to watch the chunnin exam tournament where she passed out because of Nedgy ptsd.
So basic team shit.
>filler
Lmao,when she was small she canonically had more interactions with Kiba than Naruto.
Yeah,he cared for her when she had no one to take care of her.
This has to be bait
And she paid him by rooting for Naruto in their fight rather than for her own friend and teammate.
Is there anything wrong with what I said?no filler and the retcon movie doesn't count.
Her and Naruto had way more interactions in part 1 and the entire Neji fight was built on the emotional conversation they shared before hand Kiba had none of this.
She literally saved the manga.
Hinata and Naruto * getting late
What are you talking about? She was conflicted on who to root for the entire time and she decided to root both of them. She even decided give Kiba the ointment before Naruto after the fight.
He had the right idea, but he went about it the wrong way. What he should've done was use his unstoppable strength to unify the continent, removing the feudal lords from power and thus eliminating the need for ninja wars.
No, she only wanted to root for Naruto
Why do Narufags keep hatin' on Kiba? Are they still mad that Kiba called Naruto shit in front of the entire class in that flashback?
kek Kibafags will never recover.
He is the Yamcha of the franchise but atleast Yamcha was cool in the original Dragon Ball Kiba doesn't even have that
Kiba was ugly asf in the manga
>that kurenai thought bubble
Man she had it rough. Thought she would be the one to whip Hinata into shape for Hiashi. Thought her team could beat a student of Kakashi's. Thought her genjutsu could beat Itachi.
I despised everything after P1 except for the Itachi/Jiraiya and Pain arcs, but holy fuck Madara was kino. I hated Susano and and the lame ass sharigan bullshit, but GOD. DAMN. was the moment where the five kage brag about being 5 on 1 and taking on a single Susano, only for Madara to smugly and nonchalantely make 5 clones each with 5 susano and then the next frame is just all the kages dead or close
Man Hinata is shit. Not even rooting for her own teammate.
Because only gay furfaggots like him and it's easy to shit on them by reminding them that the MC beat "their boy" by farting on him
>Thought her genjutsu could beat Itachi.
And she got herself genjutsu'd to the background as a result. Itachi doesn't play.
It was 5 clones per kage, each with their own Susaano iirc. It was perfect. Same the second meteor. Him and Pain felt like genuine threats, villains, and final bosses
She only exists to get impregnated by Naruto. That's why she does little to nothing of importance in Boruto. Her character already served its purpose.
Kishi never threw her a single bone. To bad in Japan women can only be doormat-kun
That's nothing compared to having to spend all of part 2 being pregnant in the background just to show off how awesome Shikamaru is because he wants to take care of his dead sensei's kid.
He needed training for being a dad, had to fix his laziness and all
This.
The series had already been suffering from really bad power escalation before then, but Madara and Hashirama absolutely fucking shred it like 10x over. The level of destructive power you see Pain do should have been as far as it goes.
He;s entertaining though I'll give him that
Japan is based.
>Lost to Itachi.
Practically disappeared after that.
>Got impregnated by Asuma.
>Spent all of Part II at home.
>Her man gets murdered for the glory of some guy's satanic god.
>Flashback has her dad telling her as a woman her purpose should be to give him grandchildren.
>Gets referenced sometimes about her popping out a child.
>Aged like shit in the Boruto era.
I think Kishimoto hated this character.
being a kurenaifag sure is suffering
wtf? I love sensei now
Would it had been better if she had been the one killed off instead of Asuma?
Yes, maybe to add growth to Hinata or something
the kakshi gaiden arc was pretty boring if you ask me. I did tear up when he passed team 7 though. Pretty interesting to see that he let himself be pranked by Naruto at the start so that he could bring the team closer together.
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Bullshit. Look at her clearly conflicted on who to cheer for. Like I said she went to Kiba to give the healing potion before Naruto because she care about Kiba more than Naruto.
God, why do filler kids have such ugly designs?
>Team 8 fights Hidan and Kakuzu.
>Kurenai gets killed by Hidan.
>Team 8 is devastated. Hinata feels weak as fuck and blames herself for letting this happen.
>Asuma is out for blood.
>Rematch is Team 8 + Asuma vs. Hidan and Kakuzu.
It MIGHT have been better.
SPs filler character designs are notable for being atrocious
Don't start this faggot,don't devolve this thread. Hinatafags are smart enough to not take the bait.
So just replace Shikamaru with Hinata?
Why are you sperging out?
>hinatafags are smart
user i...
Ofc, more Hinata the better
That sounds like a good idea. Shikamaru sucks.
>"DUDE, MY IQ IS SO HIGH! I CAN CREATE THE MOST COMPLEX STRATEGIES EVEN THOUGH IT'S BASICALLY POINT A TO POINT B BECAUSE KISHIMOTO ISN'T SMART ENOUGH TO WRITE AN ACTUAL SMART CHARACTER! GOTTA PLAY SHOGI!"
Because you are attempting to devolve the thread by waifubaiting.
Who else is?
Disgusting,Shikamaru is one of the better characters in the show.
Find a flaw.
Spoiler: You can't.
He's an Uchiha.
mmmmm wouldn't wanna mess with my boy Kiba
Easily fixable when he marries me and takes my surname. He doesn't look like a dirty Uchiha red-eyed bastard, nobody will know
Without the sharingan Uchihas eyes are pitch black
>the blackest eyes, the devils eyes...
>wtf dood, why isn't my Amaterasu working?! Fucking bugged piece of shit sharingan mechanics dood!
He ascended the Uchihas when he became Rikudo (the best form btw)
Still Uchiha garbage. Ain't no fixing that.
His eyes are a beautiful shade of purple. Rinnegan cannot be turned off like the inferior Sharingan
>Rikudo best form
Finally somebody with god tier taste, I like you
Well she's a retard for trying to use genjutsu on ITACHI UCHIHA!
^^ THIS SO MUCH
I cant even begin to comprehend that detour. How do you just erase a characters personality.
Unironically Rohan is included in this
Best boy
with his tomoe Rinnegan he is stronger
it was definitely the last good arc, but Madara is at least entertaining
he literally had sex tho, which is more than any cuck in fairy tail can say
He didn't get talk no jutsu'd into being a good guy
Pein, Obito, Orochimaru, Saucegay- the majority of villains ended up being "coolest guys". Not Madara, not fucking Madara. Even after hundreds of chapters and a hundred years, he doesn't suddenly turn around and say "you know maybe this annoying faggot with the stupid haircut is right and he should be hokage and end all the ninja wars and shit".
No, Madara has his OWN idea on how to fucking create paradise and it's not naruto's gay little "maybe everyone can be friends" idea and he's been planning for 100 years to fuck everything up. He's fought gods and demons, the best and worst the world has to offer. Naruto isn't anything special or remarkable to him, Naruto is some retarded kid who just happened to become a vessel for a demon. Nothing else. He won't be swayed by friendship or retarded memes because he already bought into that once and got fucked over.
So it's 100 years of preparation coming down on all these faggy kids with their hippie bullshit, because great-great-grandad thinks saucegay is a disgrace to the family name and the entire leaf village was a fucking mistake. So he's going to take on the entire fucking world to make his ambition a reality and even with every ninja aligned against him they still can't fucking stop him.
I guess at it's core it's because naruto is supposed to be about trained assassins murdering each other but somehow Naruto and his friends turned it into something incredibly lame and touchy-feely, so Madara coming along and getting us back on track by murdering a bunch of these fuckers feels really satisfying- you want him to win, because Naruto is a fucking faggot and a disgrace to the word "ninja".
His sharingan was deactivated.
I love him!
saito being a scumbag is the only flavor familiar of zero has.
Yeah, instead he abandoned his ideals without even being talk no jutsu'd. I'd say you're right, Madara was definitely not cool. He was pathetic. After 100 years of preparation his """plan""" is "well I hope these guys revive me after I'm dead". Nagato didn't, Obito didn't intend to, it was only because Zetsu had his own master plan that he got revived at all, as a mere pawn, all to carry out the real 1000-year old keikaku, a part he played to the T. He was a joke.
he was a FOOL
What even was that nigga?
Nobody knows
This nigga did nothing wrong. He just wanted to bring his white mommy back and have her take back what was taken from her.
>haha the villain got deus ex machina'd by something with literally no foreshadowing, therefore btfo!
seething narutard. The real tragedy is that the indonesians like you now have boruto to jerk off to as well.
Manifested will. A sentient version of the black chakra receivers which automatically enacts its creator's will. The rods can be used to exercise manual control, like how Nagato uses them to control Pain, because that is Nagato's will. Black Zetsu automatically and sentiently executes Kaguya's will. Possibly the same material as gudoudama.
>ad hominem
Nice counterargument loser. Keep coping, Madara is shit. Boruto is shit. Madara being a loser was always foreshadowed since he has never won a fight against Hashirama and if you remove Zetsu-ex-machina he would never have even been revived because his plan was so god damn stupid it didn't even ensure a way to revive him.
No
And whose fault is that? How many times has he fought Hashirama and yet he didn't expect a wood clone substitute and didn't keep Sharingan up until the end? This is the kind of shit that fools children when it shows flashbacks to fights at the academy. 5 year old Naruto is like "haha I got you" and Sasuke is like "lol that was a clone" and this is how the great Madara Uchiha loses yet another fight and nearly dies if it wasn't for the Izanagi. Hilarious.
That one time and only then
>I want to control the world by turning the moon into a giant eyeball so there's world peace
>wait nvm I'm just Goku and I want to fight strong people because it's fun
>wait nvm I want to become a fucking moon alien
Madara ruined Shippuden and it's clear Kishimoto didn't care about his character and had no clue what to do with him
>one time
user have you even read this series? He loses three times in the same flashback. Four if you count the time he said "we can't win, Hashirama is stronger than me" when he was a kid, but I'm sure you'll dismiss that as "b-but he just didn't want to fight his friend".
>had no clue what to do with him
Would a better writer save Madara?
bump
Nope, nothing to his character other than strongest guy
A slightly better writer would have just used him as the final boss which would have meant that he gets his skull cracked by Sakura.
So you're saying that if I absorbed all the tailed beasts into myself and went super mode I could have a cool shadow dude manipulating events to keep my lawn mowed while I napped for a thousand years?
a man of taste
Yea
But with each passing moment his job becomes more and more difficult.
Still an awful series but the clock goth episodes were worth it
This thread literally opened with, and is largely about, Naruto. One of the worst series to spiral into death that has ever been written. You're in good standing here, sin-kun.
There is only one character that ruined shippuden and you know damn well who it is.
>powerbombed sasuke
based
I'm not the Sasuke autist.
That based episode where Madara alone faces the combined armies of all the hidden villages. NGHHHHHHHHHHHH, prime shounenshit kino.
This was so humiliating that i have no idea how did 5 cuck nations ever recover
Yeah I can't imagine how they lost to an asspull machine with unlimited chakra and regeneration when they all had finite chakra and didn't regenerate lost body parts infinitely because of edo tensei.
Madara was just that powerful. One of the most iconic moments in anime history.
Just look at this salty Leaf cuck
What is there to be salty about? Madara died like the worm he was, killed by half of the weakest Akatsuki member in one shot when he was at full power.
Umm he was backstabbed
But then we wouldn't get the ayylien lore in Boruto.
Naruto and Hinata is only enhanced by them both being girls.
Basically the last 40(with the exception of Naruto vs Sasuke) or so chapters, with all the aliens, reincarnations, barely any changes to shinobi world, ninja jesus, nonsense ships and etc were written just for Boruto to exist. Imagine writing your story for decades and giving up on it for money. God what a shitty ending
As if you can enhance perfection.
>being this much of a speed reader
Madara always relied on Zetsu to ensure his revival. The only flaw in his plan was that Zetsu was actually doing it all for Kaguya.
it's a different shade of perfection
This is the only shade of perfection.
Based
Based it is.
Madara and moon people made up some of the worst parts of the ending. Also the reincarnation shit.
Should've just stuck with Orochimaru as the main antagonist, with the Akatsuki being a wildcard.
lol, I was the original Kibafag in this thread and it's so funny to see Narufags getting triggered at the thought of Hinata and Kiba. I don't care about if he got together with Hinata or not, all I know is that Kiba would've been a far cooler alpha, non-uchiha obsessive MC.
Alright, brb.
BASED
Unironically this, the only reason most people watched this trash show
war arc was fucking shit, I almost dropped it until Madara showed up
Thats because they decided a shitload of awful filler masked as the real thing was a good idea
Pretty much
Badass design
Awesome presentation
Lots of build up
Hype
And his copypasta is great