> Majin Buu is involved
> Interesting antagonist who isn't just strong with brute force. So Goku and Vegeta being Op doesn't matter anymore
> Intergalactic exploration, including Namek
> Cool new characters, including Merus and the Galactic Prisoners
> Constant threat that keeps you wondering what will happen next
Is this the best arc since the Android/Cell saga?
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I'll probably like it more when they adapt it in the anime
I hope Moro is actually a lasting villain for awhile, he's probably the most interesting antagonists the series has had in years.
More importantly
> Vegeta actually getting character development > Vegeta befriending Namekians and actively wanting to make amends for how he treated them back in DBZ
> Vegeta DITCHING GOKU AND GOING TO YARDRAT
I'm very excited to see what Vegeta will do in Yardrat, while Goku eats shit with Jaco and the galactic prisoners visit Earth
Reminder that:
>joblyfags were proven to be literal arabs on /int/
>joblyfags were exposed to actual custom-created jobly cuckold porn
>joblyfags don't know that "cloth" is a word
>joblyfags don't know that "hypocritic" is a word
>joblyfags lost arguments non-stop until they literally gave up on debating, in favor of shitposting
>joblyfags fuck up on a daily basis to the point that there is a literal archive of their humiliations
>joblyfags get BTFO so much that they had to try and force a meme that sourcing your claims with evidence is somehow funny (ie. "lol u proved me wrong with a dictionary that means i actually win!!")
>joblyfags shitpost and off-topic spam constantly as their only means of fighting back
>joblyfags got exposed as falseflagging as Jirenchads and then samefagging MASSIVE amounts of replies (see image)
>joblyfags imitate and parrot everything that their masters, the Jirenchads, bully them with because they aren't intelligent enough to come up with their own bantz (inadvertently showing how much these hurt them)
>joblyfags are literally mindbroken to the point that they think about Jiren all day and will bring him up at every opportunity
>joblyfags have daily freakout meltdowns and temper tantrums because of all of the above
Expect another one of their freakout meltdowns ITT.
Vegeta is going to get Instant Transmission?
SOON
The Alpha of Awe. The Brute of Brawn. The Cultivator of Class. The Duke of Domination. The Emperor of Eloqurtnce. The Fiercest of Fighters. The Greatest of Glory. The Height of Heroism. The Imperator of Intellectualism. The Jarl of Justice. The King of Knights. The Lord of Loquaciousness. The Master of Mortality. The Naysayer of Noobs. The Overlord of Obituaries. The Prince of Passion. The Que-hagen of Quixote. The Ruler of Ruination. The Sultan of Smite. The Taskmaster of Trembles. The Undertaker of Ubiquity. The Vaeyen of Vociferousness. The Warranter of Weaklings. The Xenophobe of Xenogeny. The Yardmaster of Yesteryear. The Zhar of Zoroastrianism.
THE INDOMITUS REX
THE ALPHA OF ALPHAS
THE KING OF KINGS
THE LORD OF LORDS
THE JUSTICIAR OF JUSTICE
CHADREN THE GRAY
APEXPREDATORren the MASCULINE
GRIPren the CRUSHING
INSURMOUNTABLEren the UNSURPASSABLE
AESTHETICren the BEAUTIFUL
SWOLEren the RIPPED
PHYSICALLYIMPOSINGren the INTIMIDATING
DISCIPLINEDren the ENLIGHTENED
ZENren the SPIRITUAL
ALMIGHTYren the INVINCIBLE
IMPERIOUSren the DOMINATOR
INVICTUSren the ETERNAL
MAELSTROMren the TITANIC
LORDren the KING
DEITYren the CHRIST
CRIMSONren the LEGEND
SUPERNOVAren the TRANSIENT
RENCHAD THE JI
JICHAD THE REN
RENCHAD THE CHAD
ENCHAD CHADREN
THE CHAD OF CHADS
CHADCHAD CHADCHAD CHA CHAD
ENTER CHADREN
i like it. but i also liked jiren. if you add the parts of the anime that made sense with the manga, he was ok (eg remove the part about him attacking goku's friends)
Maybe so, that's going to be interesting
I’m kind of disappointed, goat looked much better with his beard.
HOLY FUCKING APEX BASED
So far so good for me. Moro is cool to read and I hope Toyo doesn't fuck it up. He could end up being one of my favorite villains. It looks like those prisoners are heading to earth now so you can bet we'll get a chapter with the rest of the Z Fighters getting a chance to fight. And we still have whatever Vegeta is going to learn on Yardrat. I'm guessing he'll also pick up IT too. Monthly manga doesn't usually bother, but it does for DB. I wish it was weekly.
this arc is shit, as are your standards OP
Well toryiama is involved so it couldn't be that bad. Though I'm still worried how it will go. Not really interested that much in the prisoners. Also wonder if Vegeta gimmick will have him do something or again jobs with it and Goku saves his ass again. It better be a good gimmick.
After Buu being absent for so long, I'm glad he's finally involved
Brought a tear to my beautiful cheek.
>Merus is as strong if not stronger than SSJ3 Goku that is now way stronger than the same SSJ3 Goku that fought Kid Buu
>Moron left Vegeta and Goku alone because reasons
>Buu is conveniently asleep AGAIN
Why do people like this arc again? Lets not talk about how Goku and Vegeta got fucking hurt by lava because that a whole different level of bullshit. Everything here reads like a fanfic. If Toriyama really is writinb this (I doubt it as this doesn't read like Toriyama's writing eventhough the manga did state that Toriyama is writing it), he really needs something to explain all this bullshit. Like we went from FTL+++++/ Faster than time, universe busting to planet cop level that can get defeated by a gun. You toyopedros are pathetic to actually like this shit.
>Why do people like this arc again?
Nobody likes it you retard.
The way the last chapter went seems to be an indicator to how the arc will end. Vegeta will learn something, Moro will counter it, Goku will activate UI and win. The arc will serve to push Goku closer to mastering UI.
>fell back asleep
So much for that
Toei will handle it better than Toyotaro, just like their ToP arc was several times more interesting in the anime than the manga (and the Future Trunks arc too to a lesser extent).
> Buu asleep
They can just wake him up again with that hypnosis thing
I don't watch Dragon Ball but I wanted you to know that "Yardrat" backwards is "Tardray".
Based Believers
>CHADren
>CHADly
>CHADku
>CHADgeta
>CHADhan
>CHADro
>CHADell
>Human/Jiangshi (Jinn) CHADS
>CHADkkoro-san
>CHADit
>CHADooler
>CHAD Kais
Cringe Apostates
>Buu (Black magic)
>Furiza (Sees himself as the most powerful being)
>Shenron (Black magic)
>Dende (Not the true guardian of Earth)
>Super Shenron (Black magic)
>Porunga (Black magic)
>Beerus (False God)
>All other Hakaishins (False Gods)
>Whis (False angel)
>Zeno / Future Zeno (not the King of All)
>EGP (False angel)
>Zamasu (False God)
>Supreme Kais (False Gods)
Imagine basing your whole life on a fairy tale. Not that you have a choice, otherwise you get beheaded.
Hell no.
*tips fedora*
>not being retarded is fedora'ing
I pity you... Not
You don't belong here.
Not funny.
Nobody is laughing, apostate.
No. Vegeta realizes that Shunkan Ido is pointless when energy drain is involved. He is getting a different technique, one suited towards fighting tricky opponents that rely on unfair tactics.
Undefeated
Well, since the Android/Cell saga was worse than the Buu saga, you're not making much of a point.
Reminder that GT is non-canon.
Quiet, sand gobbler.
Whoa wait they are gonna give Vegta a new technique and not Goku? I'm intrested usually Tori just gives Goku all the new moves and abilities.
Who the fuck needs a reminder for that?
>Tori
That's because he's not involved in this arc.
Who needs that reminder?
UNHOLY BASED
Even better maybe we won't see this end with Goku being everyone's last hope like it just about always ends with ever mature threat and yeah I know Gohan beat Perfect Cell but he had Goku pushing him on in some spiritual bullcrap and Goku did technically kill Cell like Twice.
You seem to have mistaken /DBS/ for r/atheism my fedora wearing friend. This is a Mohammedan board, and kafirs like you are not welcome here
Hes asleep this time because the battle took a toll on him.
I really hate UI to be honest. If could stand the white eyes and all but the white hair and how it's implemented is garbage.
>having shit taste
>2 pesos have been deposited to your account
Suddenly El Hermano
>If could stand the white eyes and all but the white hair and how it's implemented is garbage.
tell that to Gohanfags, their spic memes made this possible
inb4 it's another variation of final flash
Not a chad.
new technique no matter how uncreative it is, is more hype than another transformation at this point
Hey Im huwite and I like Broly.
Jiren is a sobstory fag.
WHERE MY SAIYAN CHADS AT?!
>the new MC of the show about fighting doesnt like fighting and hasnt trained at all?
this is what gets to me the most. ever since gohan's introduction in the saiyan arc he was always set up to be a good fighter. why did they just drop it? i mean, i know he was a bookish kid but before the cell arc he didnt seem to hate fighting. (sure, he was scared during the saiyan saga but he seemed to have gotten over it in the namek arc). even so its still an odd thing to do when your show is about fighting. its almost like they set him up to fail.
there are so many hiccups in dragon ball that just dont make sense to me.
>see image
>why did they just drop it?
Women.
Cry more Goku babies.
>Interesting antagonist
Stopped reading right there, you're just a toyo cocksucker. Moro has no personality and the implementation of his power drain gimmick was done in the absolute worst way possible. That's not touching on all the other problems with this shitty arc either.
So let me get this straight
For DAYS, literal DAYS, Piccolo has just been doing fuckall after getting blasted by Baby-controlled Gohan, allowing Baby to make his wish on the Black Star Dragon Balls, allowing Baby to take over Dende, not even bothering getting the Sacred Water to heal up those inflicted by Baby's parasite (something he would know about because he was once Kami), and now. NOW. Piccolo is just going to fucking die with the Earth, STILL SOMEHOW BLEEDING from the wounds he suffered from Baby Gohan? This shit makes no goddamn sense.
Zamasu himself got hit by Goku kamehameha and hasn't regenerated since, Kamehameha canonically block regenerations
What happened?
CELL REGENERATED FROM GETTING HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF BY A KAMEHAMEHA
the baby arc was fucking retarded.
besides, if youre going to blow up the earth along with an MC, dont bring it back right afterwards but not the MC.
i was shitposting
What did I miss bruh?
Jobrenfag jobbed to based janny again
Chill nigga
Be nice to him, he's mad because he knows GTfags will do anything to defend their series
Because they gotta do Piccolo even more dirty, that's why they didn't bring him back
And caught samefaggingBusiness as usual.
This is such a pitiful fucking taste, kill yourself.
to be honest with you, i'd rather take that death over him dying for no reason just for Gohan to be a beacon for IT, i'm saying this as a canonfag
>Interesting antagonist who isn't just strong with brute force. So Goku and Vegeta being Op doesn't matter anymore
>most of the fights involve Goku and Vegeta anyway, Buu / Dai Kaioshin is already sleeping, while both Goku and Vegeta are going to train to take on the antagonist again
>falling for that cheap bait
Kek.
Those fucking donkeys..
if were gonna talk about things that dont make sense in dragon ball, chichi's reintroduction is something that didnt make sense to me.
at the point when she re-appeared she was about as relevant as any of goku's other childhood waifus but the way they show her kind of feels like theirs some kind of big setup behind them. then goku just marries her outright just a little while later even though they haven spoken since childhood. it seems like it was rushed, even though it might not have been. and on top of that she never really has much personality behind either being goku's wife.
i dont hate chichi, but she seems like she got the short end of the stick in character development.
>accuse others of samefagging
>someone quotes a reply to his deleted pasta
>also banned
Seeing that shitty Gary Stu upsets me. Fuck this arc and the manga.
But Piccolo got done so bad even Yamcha looked better by comparison
>waifutrash
Didn't
Even
Read
Haha.
I want Android 17 to be in too
yeah, what happened to his Super Namekian shit? in GT he died at the first arc, in Super he's even weaker than Ginyu now
I wonder what does Vegeta think about his wife's boyfriend.
i never watched much of GT, but in super it seems like they looked at how he liked gohan in Z and just decided to turn him into a babysitter.
its all so tiresome.
GT wasn't very consistent and forgot a lot about the series beforehand, remember dende suggested getting medicine at the very first episode when goku got exhausted, WHEN HE COULD HAVE JUST HEALED HIM!
Hail Satan
Gohan's time is next chapter.
I thought this shit ended with that alien power ranger fight
they should've made them another Duo just like Goku and Vegeta, what a wasted potential
>another thread ruined by animeniggers and characterfags
I wish there was someplace better
go to /vg/ and discuss Xenoverse and FighterZ then
Reddit, they like the arc and Shitrus there
No.
GT is shit, live with it
That's it bitch, these threads belong to the ToeiCHADS. Apologist toyospics are not welcome. Get out of MY thread.
come to think of it, most relationships in dragon ball are a mess.
yamcha and bulma seemed to be set up to fail, and vegeta seems like he only won the bulmabowl because goku was already taken. though that one turned out okay.
after tien and launch fell apart launch just stopped existing because AT literally forgot about her
there's the old theory that chichi was brought back to piss off an editor, but thats never been confirmed.
not to sound like a shipfag but this is a clusterfuck
>Made Caulifla
>Made Minus canon
>Included the Galactic Patrol from another manga
>Okayed Merus
Reminder that Toriyama is destroying the franchise.
What are you guys going to do when the anime comes back and just adapts the manga
Jirenscholars
>You are arabs, which was proven on /int/
copelydogs
>no u are arabs
Jirenscholars
>*breaks copelydogs mind* You are mindbroken
copelydogs
>no u are mindbroken
Jirenscholars
>*sees Incomperhensible ESL babble* IESLB
copelydogs
>*sees perfect english but cannot think of a rebuttal* no u are IESLB
Jirenscholars
>*gets his post deleted by a mindbroken janny who removes everything Jiren related because the Legion completely took over /DBS/*
copelydogs
>jajajajaja there are no Jirengringos posting here anymore, we won
Can copely dogs do anything besides parroting what their superiors say?
>Caulifla
>Minus
>bad things
all me
>192291065
>rivisonist falseflagging shitrendonkey
Discarded
>192291065
>BROLYBROLYBROLYBROLYBROLYJANNYBROLY
>rivisonist
Point proven
Nope. He is only to blame for Merus probably. Accept that Nu-Toriyama is shit.
>gokek takes a year to learn instant transmission
>prince CHADgeta the prodigy is going to to take less than a week to learn some tricks
Never, you have a scapegoat here, why don't you pin everything to him instead?
Discarded again.
>parrots the JIRENJIRENJIRENJIRENJIREN post and just replaces it with BROLY
Point proven
This. The females need to be retcon out of the series.
>192291205
>parrot
>misread JANNY
pointd provend
>RTH
Sad life, Shitrendonkey.
>keeps repeating "discarded" like a lunatic, not knowing what else to say after getting exposed for what he really is
>t. incel
>pointd
Point proven
Are you new or something? We all prefer the term CHADren here.
>T-TYPO
>BETTER TH-THROW MY NEWFAG ABBREVIATION AND RUN AWAY LIKE A BITCH NOW
>*donkey noises*
>192291303
>point proven
Pointd provend
Fucking CHADsed.
>Fucking
Fuckingd
>I-i-if i say it incorrectly again it's gonna look like i did it on purpose last time
They have no other choice. We are their main source of English education. It's like reprimanding a student for repeating what his teacher just taught him. We are truly deserving of the academic title of Jirenprofessors.
>I-i-if i say it incorrectly again it's gonna look like i did it on purpose last time
Id-Id-ifd id sayd itd incorrectlyd againd itd'sd gonnad lookd liked id didd itd ond purposed lastd timed
trounce
Then and only then it means the arc actually follows the canon outline.
>d missing from "purpose"
>IESLB
>attempting (and failing) to imitate the Jirenscholars' posting style
Anyone else?
ENTER CHADREN
>Included the Galactic Patrol from another manga
but the take over body one is great
>extremely low quality
You know what to do, gentlemen.
I remember when a brolyspic tried to make a joke about jirenscholars being called scholars because they like being near kids, thinking that scholar means someone who works in schools
yesd putd 'd' ond everythingd justd liked whatd ourd brethrend wantedd
>Id-Id-ifd id sayd itd incorrectlyd againd itd'sd gonnad lookd liked id didd itd ond purposed lastd timed
Completely dominated and utterly mindbroken, a brolydog has no other choice but to mash his keyboard in rage
What's the point if it just adapts the manga 1:1
Reminder Base Jiren solos the iCarly verse.
>d missing from "rage"
>IESLB
>attempting (and failing) to imitate the Jirenscholars' posting style
Anyone else?
i dunno, ultimate freddy and gibby blanco are pretty strong.
You forgot the d in based.
Good animation, soundtrack, DBZ was an adaptation.
Soon.
Reminder that Nigga-Chan is stronger then Copypasta Cell.
>d missing from "base"
>IESLB
>attempting (and failing) to imitate the Jirenscholars' posting style
Anyone else?
Why though?
Only time the d shit has ever made somewhat sense.
No it wasn't. It added a huge plot hole in the universe and added tons of uninteresting comic relief characters
See what happened in this thread when you acknowledged the existence of that Zombie that goes shitrenshitrenshitren? They spam the thread with Yea Forums tier spam as soon as they get a (you).
See, for example, last thread. The same taco that's spamming the thread now got completely ignored, he spent over 30 posts talking to himself while spamming "shitren". So I encourage you to not even acknowledge that deranged being's existence anymore. Like a Jirenbro said last thread:
>There is no sanity left, no arguments to win, no glory to gain, and nothing to prove. Just a rabid, screeching animal that is the very product of our unending success.
wrong target, don't target the wandering user
Never. Jiren's wife is Ribrianne.
>d missing from "example"
>IESLB
>attempting (and failing) to imitate the Jirenscholars' posting style
Anyone else?
>after being humiliated starts adding the letter "d" at the end of every word thinking that it's an epic comeback while failing to realise that it just makes him look even worse
After witnessing firsthand that brolydogs are nowhere near my intellectual level i will take your advice and stop giving them (you)'s because just like Jiren doesn't prey on the phisically weak, i shall not prey on mentally weak.
Enter CHADhan
>after being humiliated starts adding the letter "d" at the end of every word thinking that it's an epic comeback while failing to realise that it just makes him look even worse
Howd dared youd mockd ourd belovedd Jirenscholard teachingsd, don'td youd dared touchd ourd GODrend imaged withd yourd disgustingd handsd youd falseflaggingd brolydogd, id hoped youd died horriblyd somedayd
A-Anyday bros....
BASED
GT was shit
youtu.be
>d guy is actually getting rid of the Jobrenfags
holyd fuckingd based!
HOLY BASED
post the one where they throw rocks at tanks
>J-JUST IGNORED THEM AND THEY WILL STOP D-DON'T RESPONDD
Petition to start d posting every time our based CHADRENSCHOLARS are here
He fought Basil.
Can't say I'm surprised a fellow Jirengod is a comprehensive and compassionate being. The teachings of Jiren's philosophy are truly beneficial to everyone. Can't wait for his return in Heroes, his character development (as shown when thanking Toppo and cooperating with Dyspo), and how he's gonna one shot Hearts.
They are thoroughly trouncedd.
It’s like one fag suicide bombed his own army.
>literal low tier TRASH in DBFZ, the only DB game that matters
>GODhan is in top tier where he belongs
>even Dogly is at least in High Tier
Shitren virgins, what's your excuse?
>CHADRENSCHOLARS
Who? I only know of the Shitrendonkeys.
yea, i'm reforming to a Jirenfag now if their languaged is this fucking basedd
What the fuck are you even talking about? Your mental gymnastics are insane.
It'sd Shitrendonkeysd retardd, learnd yourd insultsd Brolydogd
When will Jobren get his first win? Such an embarrassing character. Much like his "fanbased"
>Videogames
>Powerscaling
You know Saibamen can hurt SS4 Gogeta in these games right?
Jobren beat many characters in the ToP. He usually didn’t ring them out because he’s retarded though.
>army
More like his own pack of animals
Did you reply to the wrong person? What am I seeing here?
Yeah but that haircut wasn't necessary
Her SSB tier toughness is the only one capable of handling Jiren's thrust.
You could only win in the ToP by being the last man standing. And in Heroes, well... Jobren doesn't have a single win under his belt.
And him
>we didn't get a kibito v Zamusa spar
>Zamusa
it's Zamaus
Who?
I can’t believe he jobbed to Merged Zamasu. Even a character weaker than him got him half purple.
Reminder that all SHITly posters are actually SHITren posters and SHITearts posters, all of which are actually SHITgeta posters, who are all SHIThan posters. Don't be fooled into thinking there's some kind of Broly vs Jiren war, they're actually two sides of the same coin.
cope
>the only panels that don't look like utter garbage are the ones corrected by Tori
Kek.
that's like saying Gokufag is a vegetafag and Gogetafag is a Vegitofag and Gohanfag is a cutecuck
t. avatarfagging Tardkushitter.
t. obsessed Jobgetatard
I still can't believe that the guy is still posting and replying to himself. I once felt pride for mindbreaking brolydogs, but now i feel nothing more than pity. It saddens me to see a man reduced to this sad, pathetic state
Aaaaand I hit the nail. Go kiss a wife, tardkushitter.
Now we know why Jiren didn't go all out in the beginning. He didn't want to kill anyone. We didn't heed his teachings and see what happens, our intellects fully unleashed, minds start crumbling.
*ahem*
I'll call him Zamasu. Don't know why it typed Zamusa.
He has a lot of nice panels in the manga also the spar was better than the one he had against Goku.
have sex
what will happen if he tapped his ass?
Reminder that Vegeta's training will have to at least match Goku mastering UI with Merus, and the people from Yardrat may very well help him tap into Ozaru power without being a legendary sayan like Broly. SS4 will finally be canon
>reporting
for shame
>The legion of SHITrentards have all the same IP
>based mods BTFO the spamming taco again
HAHAHA mods = gods
>same outfit as the MC, same hair and eye color
>looks far better
no wonder Toriyama retired Yamcha
It will just be Broly’s form.
Broly is a legendary sayan so he keeps a human form and goes berserk, Vegeta would be a "fake" version, so it would retain aspects from the ozaru form
>why do people like this arc again
Because
1: We know when a new character is hyped up for his misterious strength for months is because there's something special about him rather than be a random that is just strong.
2: We know Moro leaves people alive as livestock for future meals, not only because it makes sense but also because Moro literally said so in the last chapter.
3: We enjoyed Boo's funniest and more varied performance in years
4: We know the difference between headcanon (hur hur SSG should be immune to lava because I say so) and reality (Toriyama still checking and approving every chapter of this arc as Toyotaro confirmed in a recent interview)
5: We know what the "anesthesia" part of "anesthesia gun" means
tl:dr People like this arc because we have functional brains and we can read, unlike you.
Based SURPRESSED IQ Jirenbro
Ahhh my job here is done. I shall hit the sheets feeling accomplished just like Jiren after another day of retaining his title of "The strongest in the multiverse and all the timelines, canon or not".
>Ahhh my job here is done. I shall hit the sheets feeling accomplished just like Jiren after another day of retaining his title of "The strongest in the multiverse and all the timelines, canon or not".
don't forget to d post, those joblyfagsd fears itd
>Strongest
Angels? Zeno? I can at least understand some warped logic for the others but seriously.
Based CHADrenbro
>soul vs soulless
>spams
>gets banned
> ban evades
>back to spamming again
Wow and pointing fingers too, it's like a rapist accusing someone else of being a rapist, so ingenious!
I agree with that.
So far we know:
>Berserk Kale > SSB
>FP Broly > SSB
>Kefla >> Berserk Kale
>Omen > Kefla
>Suppressed Jiren >= Omen
>UI > suppressed Jiren
>LB Jiren >= UI
Therefore, even the dullest mind can conclude that
>LB Jiren >>>>> FP Broly.
Like clockwork.
>but muh non fighting characters
Shut the fuck up.
enter oolong
youtube.com
>We didn’t get soul.
They look a lot more alien in Toryiama's colors.
enter Yamaha
>Kaioshin of Time (forma hentai)
Based.
How strong is she like this?
>Jiren's philosophy are
post Chronoa (forma puta demonio)
Like he one shot his cube.
>Women.
Life's greatest gainz goblins
>SHITrentoddler can't even write suppressed
Holy cringe
Are you crying?
Nope. Still shit. Make the other cast involved. Bring back tien, piccolo and krillin.
>Like he one shot his cube.
Tien its too late they already ruined him beyond repair. Krillen why even bother and piccolo they barely want to use him or correctly.
>tries to make amends
>threatens to kill the galactic patrol pilot
Yeah, hes a good guy alright
As her strongest she utterly curbstomps anyone in Super, just like most characters in DBH/Xenoverse.
i dont think there was any real reason why, but i think AT really didnt know what he was doing with relationships.
I mean in relation to the Xeno cast.
Enter Shin
So when will we have an arc that isnt some saiyan jerk off fest? I mean whats the point in using a character if his hair cant change color?
Its dragon ball they can bullshit whatever they want. If the writers wanted to use tien they could just use bs like how they made roshi equal to base goku without training for 20 years.
not him, but dragon ball shouldnt have really taken the cannon story past Z. they should have done some split off or spinoff after the buu arc, at least then it would have kept the power creep and character obsolescence down a bit.
Remimder that Broly got roided out with so much dark energy and time breaker shit he turned black.
That was terrible. I wish Roshi wasn't in ToP. It never made sense. If he trained them before Top that would have been great. Also I doubt they'll do anything like that again.
So what's Freeza doing during this entire arc? Surely those prisoners are going to catch his attention unless they're avoiding pillaging planets owned by the empire.
if sun a dark energy? do i get stronger if i got tanned?
it didnt make sense but i did like it. it brought back relevance to an otherwise forgotten character and did do some good development. take what you can get and what not, i suppose.
Still weaker than the Sayins, Dabura's hot sister and the other Demons I think, but she has some gimmicks.
why doesnt Goku just instant transmission his fist into Moro's brain
and the best thing, the main villain have the name of the Minister of Justice of Brazil.
seriously though.
and whats the point in jerking off the saiyans specifically if you never explore their linage or history? broly was a perfect opportunity but the flashback didnt show us hardly anything new. having goku remember bardock and come to terms with his saiyan bloodline would be a great idea if they ever bothered to do anything with it.
he knows
You just get skin cancer.
Time to move on.
Power creep is so integral to DB now you can't really do anything exciting without some new transformation/fusion/technique
Okay that's it. I can die happy now. It's all down hill in my life from now on.
He was always black, Roberto, this Broly is not the one from the movies, who also has SS4.
context?
i suppose, but i feel it would be more exiting to explore new parts of DB rather than to just keep scaling up ad-infinitum
I took it as stupid. Most of the ToP was. Even with them being involved only Roshi out of the humans seemed worth shit.
remove technique, we have never ever seen techniques being shilled to oblivion, it's still worth getting hyped for
Gogeta and Shenron looks weird
>Always Black
It's Kenji Yamamoto, the guy who did pretty much all Dragon Ball video games up until 2009 and he worked on the series too. He arranged Cha-La-Head-Cha-La, Spirit vs Spirit, Mind Power Ki and fucking loads more.
and you messaged him? good for you friend
oh dont get me wrong, the ToP was dragon balls lowest point imo, but roshi's training was good when taken out of the context of the rest of super. it gave him some good development showed him interacting more with the cast. his kamehameha in the ToP was good too but thats about all i can say for the ToP
Source? We never see this Broly without glowing red eyes of dark power.
I've been meaning to ask this for a while, Blanco or Ultra Instinct? which is stronger?
They're the same form
Good morning, my pets
Yeah no shit I messaged him, that should be obvious Dude is a huge part of the series' musical legacy.. Had no idea if he spoke English or not so was surprised when he responded.
You sure about that?
Yeah I noticed it was the same pose that both made in that one game intro. I took a double take and thought I was seeing things.
I wouldn't hate him beating just the fodder group with his whatever fake UI but him going against Jiren pushed it really. Anime wise I didn't like his encounter with the girl. Other parts he seemed serious but I didn't care since his time passed. The death fake out didn't sit with me either.
Also here's Orc Jiren
Blanco by a long shot.
most nips should be capable of basic english especially if their franchise appeals more to the overseas rather than their own soil
like i said, you have to take it out of context with the rest of the show. (much like most of supers good moments). seeing the rest of the cast actually start to care about roshi and him getting motivated again to be more active was a very welcome callback to the days of dragon ball. his ultimate Kamehameha was nice too, but the fakeout was really stupid tho since if he died the other universe would have a fighter erased.
Why does Legendary Super Saiyan make characters white?
because thats part of becoming more powerful
Yo Buu really hit Moro with that FEINT
Because whiteness is the ultimate final form of humanoids.
I do take it out of context of the tournament and I still don't like it. Yeah he's back but why? Unlike the others his time was Dragonball and nothing in z.
As for the others, Krillen was garbage even worse in the anime to have all that development go no where but to him dick riding Goku non stop. Tien.....god that fucked him beyond belief both manga and anime. His episodes are the worst and it seemed they actively did it on purpose. Piccolo was just support the entire time with his only shine a combo team with gohan agsisnt the u6 Namekians which still leads to Gohan carrying his ass. Gohan was like krillen on and off with development only to lead to now where really. He got about two moments to shine and that's about it. His talk of new power nowhere ever came of it. 18 I forgot she was even in it.
Because Blanco is the best form for both saiyan and human
No other dark dragon Ball character changes skin tone.
There's no reason to believe broly did just because
Especially when it's explicitly stated these people are all from different realities
as you said before, he's not necessarily back so much as they just wanted to give him some screentime. i fully expect this to be completely forgotten by the next arc (and it seems like im right). just think it was nice to see a quick callback to the old days of dragon ball, i couldnt care less about everything else.
cant disagree for the rest though, they did my man piccolo dirty.
"According to Takao Koyama, the writer for the first thirteen Dragon Ball Z films stated that - even including the TV anime - nobody exists in the world who's stronger than Broly, and that there is absolutely no way Goku could beat Broly outside of the unorthodox methods he used in the films."
UI Goku confirmed weaker than OGly forever.
>No other dark dragon Ball character changes skin tone.
See
Ss is literally lighting them up
I'm expecting him to show up but who knows, maybe they want to give Frieza a break after being shoehorned into a new arc and a new movie recently
Blanco but on Gohan
It it's not stated by Toriyama, it's not canon. Don't bother replying to me.
>noncannonly
discraded
Piccolo they gave no power ups or even a clear stance where the hell he's at except below the totem pole even more. He used the be the next powerful person behind the saiyans. Now he's below 17 who's above even Gohan. The worst moment is how they get rid of him with those bugs. He should have easily heard them yet they give the hearing to 17 for some reason. Hell his arms should have been long enough though the manga the place they disappear past the ring is much shorter. In the anime its fucking wherever so that Goku and Jiren can bullshit their way back
Because Toei's color palettes are always shit, Toriyama never changes someone's skin color because a transformation, he only does when he literally forgets how its skin is supposed to be
Source of what? Broly dark was always like this.
The regular Broly is from the movies universe.
racism
Whites are the strongest race duh
if were being honest piccolo should have got the ToP win.
Sorry but it's part of the package, Goku can never beat Broly 1v1, everyone knows this.
See pic has no aura.
Did he always have red eyes too? I think it’s just part of the transformation. I know there are alternate versions of characters but why would they be different skin color? They all have looked similar before.
>192295247
I miss this old shitpost, i guess OGlytards are still as stupid as the Shitrenturds
I wouldn't say Piccolo but he definitely deserved some kind of power up at least or new techniques. Instead they left him stagnant.
Also I believe Goku and vegeta should have been the last one standing and fighting Jiren while Frieza and 17 were left.
Hell Vegeta got even worse. He did barely anything for majority of the tournament and got a bullshit power up.
"Broly's profile in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi refers to Legendary Super Saiyan Broly as "the greatest, most powerful adversary" out of the villains in that game, which includes Strongest Form 2 Baby Vegeta, Super Buu (Gohan absorbed), and Super 17."
Canon villains like Buuhan have less stock than a non canon villain, but as his creator stated no one from Z is stronger than Broly, not even the fusions.
despite all the powerups and asspulls, goku and vegeta were done the worst by super. their dynamic was ruined, their characters were broken down (and in some places reverted) and their growth stagnated. i really hate seeing it since i was such a fan of their dynamic in Z, especially towards the end of the buu arc
Merus levels of oc here.
>See pic has no aura.
I didn't say the aura did it
I said super Saiyan did
Honestly, at this point I don't even know what to think as a Yamchafag. On one hand he got absolutely nothing but on the other hand he didn't got shat on because of it.
Fuck man, I just want the humans and Piccolo to be relevant again.
Then transformations can change skin tone.
be careful with the monkey's paw. the humans being relevant again means theyre going to be slandered just like the saiyans were.
Chadren is stronger then Chadly. Chadly can surpass Chadren easily though.
Vegeta III
The cooler Vegeta III
i liked his red armor better tbqh
The manga seems to be the only one that attempts to move their characters in some direction. The anime does none of that ever. God ki also ruined them by having it be one upped and matched by people without it or using it better. Red god they barely used which was a missed opportunity and I like it more than blue.
The anime treated him like a meme just like everyone else did. I do want the other characters involved but at the same time third chances of being ruined ad the user below said are high as hell. Just the anime ToP shows how bad it can get if they ever get back again.
The question was "why do they turn white"
I'm saying "same reason the hair is gold. Their literally lighting up"
Understand?
Cope.
>Jobren is stronger then Chadly
Nice headcanon
Oh. You should’ve responded to original post instead of the one about Broly Dark then.
Goku and Vegeta relationship has never been better, faggot
>then
>IESLB
point proven
>Ad Hominem
I want to see you guys debate this with feats and statements.
i guess thats true, but its still not good at it. all of the fundamentally bad stuff is still there. and all the stuff we saw at the end of Z is either gone or not present for a majority of the time.
its sad too, i would have loved super if it the characters still had the same dynamics as they did at the end of Z
>192295900
>ESL is still trying
>Jobrentard trying to pin his poor grasp of English on me
And SHITrentards even tho shitren is weaker than Broly still shit up every thread with their headcanon lmao.
The name alone is power, popularity, money.
>192295916
>replying twice
>fixes Chadren to Jobren but ignores then because he's an ESL
it's a test and you failed it
sure, if you like jar jar binks and his angry comic relief sidekick.
>shitren is weaker than Broly
Did you even watch Shitly's movie retard?
Not the same guy lol.
no
I was the one saying dark broly is dark skinned because it's obviously not caused by his dark dragon Ball, as no one else had it happen to them
Legendary Ss4? Maybe, who knows. Ss4 is fucking magic anyways.
But I also was saying ss lightens skin cause it's literally lighting you up.
Again, Ss4 doesn't follow that rule
>192296010
>I-I SWEAR YOU DIDN'T KNOW I'M SWITCHING IPs!!
Do you think his red eyes were always apart of him?
Why would I even need to switch IPs? I just want to see your reasons for Broly beating Jiren.
>192296079
>Why would I even need to switch IPs? I just want to see your reasons for Broly beating Jiren.
Perhaps you thought repeating the same shit instead of grabbing a dictionary would get you your answer huh?
Post my spelling mistakes then. Unless you think that “than” from earlier was from me. Stop hiding behind ESL and make a claim.
>192296183
never
Failure.
Just remembered his fur is also darker in this state.
I try to stay away from these threads to avoid spoilers and the same 4 recycled memes, so I’m kind of out of the loop. is there any idea when the anime will be back?
Post your favorite foods anons.
July
>jar jar binks
>implying I'm talking about the anime
Wasn’t that last July?
You're going to start spamming your headcanon?
The manga already confirmed that SS Broly was impossible to defeat with their advanced SSB, just a fraction of Broly's power.
Jobren couldn't even handle Hit alone.
What else, Hit is stronger than Champa and Belmod is the strongest God?
Jobren fought 20 God tiers at the same time?
Take your time.
yeah, it's "airing" now according to Geekdom's sauce
People think it may return next year because Gegege no Kitaro and DB always use the same timeslot but Kitaro's series always have more than 100 episodes, meaning the anime could return in July of 2020, but as far official info goes they have zero plans for more DBS anime, Toei is busy with SDBH now
no, the manga is shit too
Regular Pedroes SS4 Broly
youtu.be
Based. When can Super return? I need more of characters acting like real people.
>Pancucks
>real people
The biggest fuck up development is Vegeta. After Buu he admitted how kakarot was better and always be one step ahead. Then the final panel of db has him still complaining about not catching up. I think because of that and toryiama not giving a shit about Vegeta he's always wishy washy about the whole thing. Your right that their dynamic in z isn't there or is there but stagnant and flanderized. You get panels like thesr that are great like the one with beerus saying he's not following kakarot then it goes back to I hate kakarot again. Its never consistent.
Actual argument thank god. I guess only anime Jiren had feats and statements better than Broly.
I mean the talk between Piccolo and Goku. It just seems so human.
"Promotional material for Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 states that Broly is the fighter recognized by everyone to have the highest power.[12]"
So nice of Whis and his sister to acknowledge that Broly is the strongest!
yea, ignoring pan, it is, that's why DB is the only anime benefitted from filler, unlike other shonens
Is it on SCP-294 shit? In that case “Perfection.”
>look at me! My taste sucks haha!
Nobody cares.
>The manga already confirmed that SS Broly was impossible to defeat with their advanced SSB, just a fraction of Broly's power.
SSB didn't do shit to CHADren either. CHADren at maximum strength would demolished the advanced SSBs too. Could Shitly deal with SSBKK and Royal Blue easily?
>Jobren couldn't even handle Hit alone
Are you talking about Base(D) anime CHADren or Based(D) manga CHADren? Hit was taken care of pretty easily in both versions.
>Hit is stronger than Champa
Nonsense
>Belmod is strongest God?
In the manga yes. He played strategically but still landed some devastating attacks on the opponents. If his objective was victory then he would have won.
>Jobren fought 20 God tiers at the same time?
He fought many of them in Base(D) form. We're not even talking about Full Power CHADren, or Limit Breaker CHADren or even Full Power Limit Breaker CHADren.
Based
The dark dragon balls have been known to give glowing, colored eyes, so probably not.
The magic behind potara earings. Mixed food can taste like shit. Hopefully fusion can optimize it.
>t. literal retard that can't understand Vegeta having goals without being an angry manlet
Vegeta admiting Goku has always been better than him doesn't mean he has to stop trying to be better. It makes sense for Vegeta to try to surpass Goku now that he's 100% aware Goku has always been superior than him, it's called having a goal and makes way more sense than have him giving up because "well Goku is better than me right now I guess this will never change and I should stop trying or something"
i dunno, goku got it pretty bad too. he was always on the slow side, but he was still a genuinely good person who could be a good leader when shit went down. now its like they just erased everything about him. he's just there to be strong and to spout out gags.
DB was never consistent, but you can clearly see in the end of the buu arc that vegeta has gotten past his obsession with goku. it would have been great to follow this up with the two of them getting stronger of their own accord and not just playing catch-up with eachother.
Only yellow eyes though and see Broly doesn’t have the Dragon Ball in this scene.
Also see Broly’s fur seems like they have the same darkness as his skin.
Official Broly Ranking List:
Full-Power Super Saiyan Broly: BR > Super Saiyan Broly: BR >=< Broly Dark >=< LSS4 Broly >=< Broly God > Ikari Broly: BR >=< LSS3 Broly > LSS2 Broly > M10 LSS Broly > M8 LSS Broly >=< Base Broly: BR > SS Broly > Bio-Broly > RSS Broly > Base Broly
If you say so, a close up shot of his face isn't really proof
In the manga his darkness is unrelated to the dark dragon balls. He's called broly dark due to corruption.
Glowing eyes show up in various dark characters though, of different shapes, sizes, and colors
Base Broly should be higher. Also unless this is SDBH Broly Broly Dark and the other Xeno characters shit on Super.
>you
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>the point
>CHADren at maximum strength would demolished the advanced SSBs
Nice headcanon
>Could Shitly deal with SSBKK and Royal Blue easily?
Shitrenspic trying to pass these filler forms as stronger than the manga SSBs, big cope.
The rest is automatically discarded, I felt embarrassed just reading that shit.
Looks like the dragon ball only scared him.
>In the manga his darkness is unrelated to the dark dragon balls. He's called broly dark due to corruption.
>Glowing eyes show up in various dark characters though.
So his skin tone is a result of dark magic.
Any proof Advanced SSB is 20 times SSB.
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>any argument whatsoever
i guess its better than GT where vegeta goes back to outright hating him like in the cell saga or something.
although i will admit, that page was a glimpse into how good super could have been.
stop being a retard, superkun
Ahem...stronger than any DBS non Angel character.
I just find it hard to believe Merus is as strong or as fast as ssj3. Super saiyans dont mean shit no more.
Broly Dark tied with Mira and SS4 Goku Xeno (the one weaker than a 5% of SSB Goku's power), even Ikari BRoly is stronger than him
Also the script writer of the original movies said the new antagonists always surpassed the previous ones so Bio-Broly is stronger than M10 Broly and Toei just buffed Goten and Trunks
>multipliers
Hypothetical SDBH Anime Broly stomps though.
40-Day Dry Aged MSB7 Australian Wagyu Steak.
That's my line Juan, you the one crying because someone acknowledged another guy as superior in the past and now expends his time trying to surpass him
What is Advanced SSB additive or something. Doesn’t sound stronger than SSBKKx20.
if you missed the point of that scene this fucking badly, then you are beyond hope.
just because someone stops being obsessed with someone doesnt mean theyre giving up.
The result of our creation.
base M8 Broly < base M10 Broly < base Bio-Broly < Heroes-Broly
And Vegeta stopped being obsessed with Goku, retard, he sees him as his goal so he obviously cares about him, but Goku isn't living rent free in his head like in the past
CSSB is already stronger than gods and stronger than God ki Toppo, capable of matching a fusion that was baby shaking 2 SSB.
Nevermind adv.SSB, was SSBKKx20 stronger than any God?
Senzu Bean
Evolution which is as strong if not weaker beat Toppo.
>Shaking 2 SSB
>Times 20
Lol
See And
and now youre just in denial.
either form a cohesive argument or stop posting.
I want to taste this and not some recreation.
Crab
Seriously?
this scene is good until you start to think about it.
what was the point in wasting their lives fighting zamasu when they could have just hopped in the time machine and went back to the other timeline to figure out a way to stop him? they could just pop back in right after they left so whats the big deal?
Yamcha needs to impregnate a Saiyan chick to be relevant. Perhaps a Saiyan mother would raise a child who actually enjoys fighting.
>vs battles wiki
OH NO NO NO
...
The best answer.
>Vs Battle
Looks more like a knock off.
Antidepressants
Soon
>CSSB Goku was equal to Merged Zamasu
>Needed Vegito to be equal to Merged Zamasu
I guess CSSB completely shits on the anime filler forms
Are they making any more spin-off mangas?
Or maybe Anime Zamasu is just stronger than Manga Zamasu.
Heroes.
there should be.
Super
I don't think that's Cell.
sure
And Trunks has God tier speed and strength while we're at it.
>N-NO YOU ARE JUST WRONG BECAUSE... YOU ARE WRONG! NOW FORM AN ARGUMENT OR STOP POSTING!
Also didn't they deal with this power drain nonsense back in the android saga ?
>One shotted Vegeta
>Wasn’t getting asskicked by Vegito.
>Didn’t think Goku was shit so he probably launched a suppressed blast.
>Anime characters have better feats than manga.
>Hit is an example of different power level between mediums.
See Broly Dark is Xeno Goku tier and that faggot can't even make anime Goku use his 100%
SDBH is non-canon to DBS so sharing feats with Xeno characters doesn’t work. SDBH Goku is pretty much another Goku despite the same past and personality.
>muh holding back meme
sure zimzamfag
and now youre coping.
either watch the show again, or dont post in the general.
>Broly Dark is Xeno Goku tier
>Xeno Goku
>who must always hold back or else he collapses the timeline
If Buu absorbed Imperfect Cell would he gain the ability to absorb the twin androids and become perfect. If he became perfect the Cell absorbed wouldn’t become perfect because he’s not using his tail but Buu’s tail that’s mimicking Cell’s. What would happen if Cell was ripped out of Perfect Buu?
>Needed Vegito to be equal to Merged Zamasu
I don't know what you guys are talking about but I just read this and let me tell you you are fucking retarded. CSSB is just SSB's peak without drops, it's not stronger, just more constant, and Vegetto wasn't remotely equal to Zamasu, he was stronger than Zamasu IN BASE FORM, just like in Broly movie Gogeta's base form was above SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta
Merged Zamasu =
I mean clearly he was.
Here’s where he powers up.
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how is cell holding 17 off the ground? does the inside of his tail have its own grip?
To force him through the whole tail it would need a grip.
>Making mistakes twice
what else Zimmyfag? makes the same mistake thrice?
The Goku that Xeno Goku fought in Prison Planet is based on DBS, it's literally Heroes' adaptation of Super-Goku
Broly Dark = Xeno Goku < Super-Goku < BR Broly
>who must always hold back or else he collapses the timeline
He only had to hold back the form and that only happened when the timelines were unstable for Mechikaboola empire shenanigans, that's why Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta can spam SS4 like nothing now
>look at him, he's stronger than SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta together!
>nevermind Goku just btfo'd him even without Kaioken
>b-but look now, he powered up and is as strong as Vegetto now!
>nevermind Trunks just sliced him ala Freeza
What the fuck was Toei's Zamasu problem? I can't tell if they were trying to make him look good or pathetic
>Damaged by Vegito
>Trunks could fight Rose in SS2
Trunks was inconsistent all through out. Also Zamasu is kinda insane and retarded.
>immortality can be damaged
your excuse is starting to look bad zimzam apologist
Enter my cute wife Chino!
>Immortality
>Purple Mutant Face.
>Zimzam apologist.
Aren’t you saying Manga Zamasu is stronger.
You ignored my other points.
Good post on CSSB. It’s obviously not as strong as SSBKK.
with namek back I was hoping piccolo was gonna do something. I guess I'll settle for buu
>Aren’t you saying Manga Zamasu is stronger. You ignored my other points.
I'm not even a zimzamfag but you shilling your purple hulk is just hilarious, other points huh?
>SS2 Trunks vs SSR
it's fucking SSRage
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>Trunks is p-plotted!!
nice excuse
>Super Adaptation
Is Z Movie Goku the same as Z Goku. It’s an adaptation of the character. Again SDBH Goku’s feats are non-canon to Broly.
>He was Rage.
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Here he is resisting his attacks in SS2.
This was originally about comparing SSB upgrades which you have also ignored.
Didn't the anime Goku and Vegeta fused together and using all of their power lose to base Cumber?
Didn't the faggot's fusion handily defeat SS3 Cumber?
So the faggot and his partner have a lot more power than the SSB+ kk saiyans, correct?
>"Evil Saiyan"
>Recognizes SSG
He's one of the SSG legend's evil saiyans isn't he?
>using pre-zenkai Black
>only kicked him once
oh you're getting desperate! Here's more to BTFO you
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SS4 Vegito was stronger than SSBKK Vegito because:
>SSB X 20 X Goku X Vegeta < SS4 X Xeno Goku X Xeno Vegeta
>Take out the equal variables.
> Vegeta X 20 < Xeno Vegeta.
Makes sense to me. SS4 Vegito might be even stronger because they both were transformed while fused.
Black would have won if he didn't fuse with Zamasu. His Zenkais would endlessly power him up and fully heal him forever. Even Vegito would eventually fail to harm Black as Black's Zenkais would put him above the Angels. Best yet, he'd likely come up with another unexplained scythe clone attack to deal with Zeno.
>So the faggot and his partner have a lot more power than the SSB+ kk saiyans, correct?
That's how feats works, the SS4s have more power than the DBS characters.
Expect some abc logic reply or none at all.
>SDBH Goku feats are non-canon to Broly
SDBH Goku feats are non-canon to EVERYTHING because it's not canon, if we are comparing SDBH with canon we have to mix shit up
>Zenkai
Goku Rose was stronger than SSB Vegeta already.
>One kick.
Stopped attack he was gonna use on Blue Goku.
It’s not my fault Toei is inconsistent. Still ignoring CSSB and SSBx20 comparison.
Fused Zamasu is just a nerf in anime
Incorrect because you are talking about the anime adaptation, the source material for SDBH is the arcade game and in the game Cumber jobbed to both Vegettos, not only the Xeno one
Yeah but we’re talking about Broly: BR. We can’t give him non-canon feats.
>> Vegeta X 20 < Xeno Vegeta.
So Xeno Vegeta is more than 20x stronger than Xeno Goku? And that also makes them more than 800x stronger than SSBKKx20 Vegito?
Nice to know.
Merged Zamasu’s body only had regeneration. He would still get zenkais like Black and Cell.
>Stopped attack he was gonna use on Blue Goku.
you mean like how someone stopped an attack stronger than him every fucking time?
>I-IT'S NOT MY FAULT!!
it's not your fault that merged zamasu is weak either, why are you defending him?
Then we can't compare him with anything from SDBH and this discussion is stupid
The anime fucked goku's character. Manga Goku is more straight forward and isn't as grating. Then again its also because I can't hear the Atatat while I read.
Oh shit my bad. Forgot to include that they were both SS4.
>SSB X 20 X Goku X Vegeta < SS4 X Xeno Goku X SS4 X Xeno Vegeta
>Take out the equal variables.
> Vegeta X 20 < SS4 X Vegeta
>Stopped an attack stronger than them.
Is that an argument. I guess I can ignore the holding back thing as Goku was just stopping attacks stronger than him like everyone else.
>Defending
I’m defending him because you guys are saying CSSB is 20x stronger than SSB.
Well we can use SDBH feats to say that Broly Dark has then more powerful stuff than Broly Br. and is then stronger.
You know what to do.
God tier edit
More ?
>Vegeta X 20 < SS4 X Xeno Vegeta.
>warp final flash
>he warps his final flash from a long distance to hit Moro from a long distance
Based
>Is that an argument. I guess I can ignore the holding back thing as Goku was just stopping attacks stronger than him like everyone else.
Yes, because they weren't holding back in the first place? That black is outdated whether you like it or not
>I’m defending him because you guys are saying CSSB is 20x stronger than SSB.
and what? Zamasu jobbed galick guns, SSB kamehameha, kicked in the face by SSBKK and jobbed to fucking trunks in a fair fight in anime
>inb4 Trunks killed zamasu in manga too
he jumped a surprise attack on him
also here's another example of someone defending an attack stronger than him
Fellow dragonball fags. Here me out for I have a new idea for dragonball super arc. After the events of Maro, Frieza finds some of his henchmen lacking in strength. He then asks scientists to breed new Siaba men capable of fighting against strong opponents. Disaster strikes and Frieza inadvertently creates a new type of siaba men that become a hive mind creature. Going planet to planet infecting them and growing new forms of siabamen even creating a planet sized siabaman that wants to infect the whole galaxy.
What you think? Essentially the mew saiba men would be like the Zerg/terrianid/flood/plant bug infection deal.
>Incorrect
It's not, the user was clearly referring the promotional anime SSB Goku fight with SS4 Goku while using a fight that only happens in the manga to downplay.
The question is, who told him that the SS4 was going all out?
According to this logic the SS4s are only 5% of SSBKKx20
>and what? Zamasu jobbed galick guns, SSB kamehameha, kicked in the face by SSBKK and jobbed to fucking trunks in a fair fight in anime
and that is not to say SSB is overpowered, Zamasu himself is weak
>Outdated Black
I guess you think SS Trunks is stronger than Blue Vegeta. Oh wait.
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>Example
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Guess Cabba just needed to block.
>Still No CSSB Arguments
Oh well.
I like this Idea
and in no way am I samefaging
not this guy here,
no way is he same fagging.
Then they all fuse into Based Saibaking.
Dragonball is becoming more and more like a western comic books with its continuation, So I think this would work, especially if the Planet sized saibaman looks like giant lettuce.
>I guess you think SS Trunks is stronger than Blue Vegeta. Oh wait.
>post video of Trunks jobbing
next
>Guess Cabba just needed to block.
>strawmanning to another thing
i suppose trunks is a weakling just like Cabba, another loss for you
>Oh well.
not my loss anyway, try another user
I guess siaba king can become a siaba god when he becomes planet sized.
Except Broly Dark feats are all non-canon so according to your logic we can't apply them to BR Broly
this from dragonball heroes?
What are you talking about? Those fights happened in the game too
I'm down for this, we need a redemption arc.
So we established that CSSB is stronger than anime Vegito, good.
Vegito is also weaker than Kefla, God Toppo SSBE and ToP SSBKKx20.
Manga Toppo has God ki without any transformations so he is as strong as a CSSB from the get to.
oh shit, the hero of this would be Yamcha? Oh shit, he could finally get a power up that lets him at least contend against 1 level down from frieza power. Or worse he joins frieza to keep an eye on him.
Prove that UI increases power first. UI is a fighting technique that first made Goku weaker than SSB, but faster. It had nothing to do with power, but you mountain dew chugging neckbeards still call it a transformation (though transformation doesn't necessarily equal an increase in strength so you still have to prove that Goku got stronger and not just better at using UI).
Next:
FL Broly > FP Jiren > FP Kale > SSB
Broly went beyond Jiren, because UI doesn't give a power increase (especially not in the Manga).
So when Broly fought SS Gogeta, he was fighting someone at least double as strong as UI Goku, but with less reaction time, though we can argue that the massive increase in speed Goku's pl times Vegeta's pl gives makes UI completely unnecessary.
i agree with your points, but about the UI giving reduced durability, not so much
>Prove that UI increases power first.
>SSB Goku cannot do damage to Jiren which UI can
zenkai is still a thing believe it or not
Next you're going to say that jiren is a liar
CSSB is just blue with no power loss. Anime Zamasu is just inconsistent. Black Arc Vegito is weaker than those characters though.
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>zenkai is still a thing believe it or not
>forgetting what the anime said about zenkais
Broly Dark feats are canon to himself. I’m just saying Broly Br. Has no feats on that level in his own continuity. Despite this we can say a character from another continuity is stronger.
Goku has it and culdn't do anithing about it moroh. probably something new, dumdum.
UI is not a power up, it's never going to be.
It's like people can't read.
The current arc couldn't be more straight forward about the strengths of UI.
That would imply that Goku got such a zenkai that after he loses SSB, he's doing way better. At minimum he isn't in SSB Kaioken anymore.
SSB Goku still got BTFO'd Kale and then fought Kale and Caulifla with SSG later on, what do you call that?
it seems like Goku does get some power up but only enough to hurt jiren and dodge his moves. UI seems to apply maximum power exactly when and where its needed.
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UI not being a power up for Goku makes no sense. Jiren should just no sell all of the Base Golu level punches like Broly here.
android ki, did they even watch Z, kek
I think you misunderstand what power up means. It isnt being stronger, sometimes its just technique or speed or what ever. Power up just implies there is something that gives the MC an advantage.
>he hasn't played fighterZ
OH NONO NO NO
NO NO NO. user. FCK OFF
THEY ARE FAR TOO WEAK FOR THE CURRENT LEVEL
INTRODUCE NEW CHARACTERS ON THE SAME LEVEL AS GOKU AND VEGETA AND MAKE THEM ALLIES FOR ONCE, HOLY FUCK.
because white>black duh.
I played Grindoverse 2 instead
Not at all. Jiren is grasping his solar plexus, it is one of the body's weak points. It doesn't need the world shattering punches they usually give to bring someone down to their knees.
They don't exploit their opponents weak points enough.
Though, this wasn't the case with Kefla, whom clearly stated that Goku's punches had gotten weaker. It's like I said, you're proving that he got better at using UI, you're not proving that he got stronger.
Where did I implied that?
sorry i meant to say power, to be fair it doesn't give goku a new power, it just unleashed all the firepower in goku body
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what the flying fuck are goku and vegeta wearing
Not that guy but those u6 saiyans suck, got tired and deserve to get their ass kicked.
>got tired
i thought everyone used the tired meme on goku there, not on them?
what the hell are you going about?
>the whole group will never be relevant again
I just want them to want to train, learn techniques that suit them, and have some misadventures.
Ah Yamcha's greatest nemesis.
So, you're saying that it's just another form of SS or KK? I say that he learned to use the power he already has to the max by decreasing his reaction time. So, it's still the same Goku and not a stronger version maybe even weaker (he used UI in base and not in SSB). It's the FP SSB Goku (the stronger, but slower version) who fused into Gogeta.
It’s from Dragon Ball Fusions a 3DS game. It apparently had some manga.
>More people disagree with me? With me? >Neeuh, must be samefag
Retard
i'm saying is that he unleashed his full potential inside his body every time he attacked, for example, if SSBKK goku could hurt Jiren with his very full power but just for once, UI Goku can do the same, but consistently
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Ice. Usually prefer with water.
So it’s a power boost?
He's fine with it.
it's just Goku's full power, not the extension of his full power
No, slowly Goku managed to put his full power into UI. He wasn't as strong when he fought Kefla as he was when he fought Jiren, because he wasn't used to fight that way (while using that technique). He was able to put his full power into it after he had gotten used to it. That's why UI is not a power up and why he's not stronger, he just learned how to fight better (like in the OG DB).
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yeah, that's MUI, UI omen is just his maximizing his dodge but he can't use his strength properly
>a Saiyan chick
He can aim a bit higher than that.
>Infinite Loop
You would probably die from orgasm and circulatory shock.
That’s what this is for:
Nice try
Samefags
Reminder
He can go even higher.
1. Make a wish for a clone of himself.
2. Wish that clone into a straight female.
But there's no point trying to reason with the mentally retarded? i guess you're right
It's not only dodge, but attack as well. They both improved. Gohan stated that none of Goku's moves were like the ones he usually uses. And after he got used to the technique (mastered it), he went from UI omen to MUI. But there was no mention of Goku getting stronger
Is UI a powerup?
lol
Regular fag
it is, just not in terms of strength.
yeah, that's my point MUI exerted all of his possible abilities, goku didn't get stronger nor reaching the angel tier power level
And that, my friend, is why Broly > Jiren
>And that, my friend, is why El Hermano > Jiren
Fixed
both of these are correct tho
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If you consider that "power" only equals ki/strength no, only Goku's skill and reflexes are increased
you know what? Broly and Gogeta seems to have a hatemagnet that tried to bring them down in the power level department even though the answer of who is the strongest is clear as day
No, it's a technique that makes drastically cut your reaction time. This will have you catch your opponents off guard, so a punch would hurt more, but it in itself is not a power up and neither is it a speed boost. It's a boost in reaction time and Goku's body had to adapt to that (which is why he gradually became stronger).
I disagree because you dont consider a insta reaction time as not a power up in it self. I think that is a power up, just on a specific attribute of the fighter.
I want to fuck that teletubby full of my tubby custard.
It's just the Shitrentards doing damage control.
It took three SSB tier fighters to take down Jiren and one fusion of two SSBs to take down Broly.
Fusions are stronger than the sum of two fighters.
Broly wins
Actually it's just 2 and they are arguably SS tier and tired as hell
Aren't you conflating power with prowess?
They usually mean energy when they talk about power in the dbverse. Even special powers are just variations on how they use their energy.
UI isn't redistributing power, it is a skill or technique. It's more of prowess than powers.
They wouldn't have succeeded if 17 wasn't there to create all the openings.
They were all tired.
At FP they'd have been blue tire.
Blanco vs UI
Which is stronger?
yeah, i suppose i have to give 17 a credit for that, but after Goku and Frieza closed in on him, Jiren is already as good as dead
Blanco is a usual saiyan power-up, take it what you will
Well thats where you get mixed up, Techniques them selves have their own power. So like a kamehameha is a move that takes energy right to perform but you can measure how much power you can put into it. Like a regular punch, notice how there is more than one way to throw a punch? Same thing, the punch has its own power that you simply can add too it. UI is just that, strengthening your reaction time means using the proper power to adjust but also has its own power, hence why goku's hair turns white.
>Blanco is a usual saiyan power-up
Wait, what does that imply about shaggy blanco meme?
He's not only upped his reflex for a bit but mostly goes to his firepower, he had an advantage there, but UI is a calm state of mind, UI reflex might arguably still be stronger than Blanco, also everyone is a saiyan in fanfiction, even krillin
Is there a even character that’s close to being as perfect as Cell? Let alone be him. And I'm not talking about Perfect Cell. I'm not talking about Super Perfect either. Hell, I'm not even talking about SSGSS Golden Cell. I’m also not talking about SSGSS Golden Cell who fused with 9001 SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs & obtained Beerus & Whis' DNA. I'm definitely NOT Talking about SSGSS Golden Cell who fused with 9001 SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs & obtained Beerus, Whis, Champa & Vados' DNA after absorbing enough Spiral Power & Getter Rays to use SSGSS Golden Tengen Toppa Getter Emperor. I'm talking about SSGSS Golden Cell who fused with an infinite number of SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs, wished himself immortal with the Super Dragon Balls & obtained all the GoDs, angels, Zeno, Madara Uchiha & Ultimate Kars' DNA to obtain Requiem versions of every Stand (including but not limited to Gold Experience Requiem, Made in Heaven Requiem, The World Over Heaven Requiem Ultimate & D4C Requiem) after absorbing enough Spiral Power & Getter Rays to use SSGSS Golden Tengen Toppa Getter Emperor as he pilots Elder Demonbane with Cosmic Armor, Power Cosmic (all of it), and Omega effect, the Anti-Life Equation also flowing through his veins (because that's apparently how it works), his Taikyoku value being beyond infinity, while he does 101 Push-ups, 101 Sit-ups, 101 Squats, 11 km run per day as a park ranger for over 4 months inside the sun after ingesting Kryptonian DNA (to somehow obtain infinite power from a finite source) after consuming Popeye's Spinach while riding the writer's cock to battle after he beats up the writer like Nega-Chin.
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It's just Madara Cellposter
I miss him
none the less I dont need it in my life.
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And here I thought that this series is dead
You're the only one.
>Mr.satan
kek
>monthly
>looks like it's weekly
>awful plot
>sales dropping fast
So when is the manga getting axed?
never since the series generates money even with out new content.
But throwing different punches (like a Wushu one vs a Boxer's one) does not imply a power up, you're still the same Joe. You being able to use your body better does not mean that you've gotten stronger. It means that you've learned to stop wasting energy on useless movements. In terms of UI it means that he stopped wasting time on useless movements and to use this for reaction time.
I'd say that his brain got rewired or that he got a +20 in agl and dext, but not in strength or powers.
It never should have existed in the first place; it's non-canon garbage.
I agree that his hair might have turned white, because he redistributed his energy (though no official explanation for the changing of his hair color has been given as of yet).
I still don't agree that this is a power up
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you are thinking too much in terms of stats
and actually it does power up your punches because of how you impliment the technique. Martial artists will tell you straight up technique doesnt require body strength, that comes after mastering the technique. You just use the technique's precise movement to make make a connection. Say you are punching and the technique requires you to move your body forward. You dont need to launch forward you just need to step forward using your body weight to do damage. Technique has its own basic level of power when applied.
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I can understand that, but if you keep thinking in terms of strengthing your power out put then you are really limiting the term power up.
Like lets get really simple here. Super Mario, he has a wide variety of items we call power ups. Some dont even give him extra strength just abilities to fly and shoot fire balls. Mario only gets stronger with the mushroom. even then the power ups after that dont add to his strength but more to other abilities like running climbing swimming and shit like that.
UI is a pretty sick power up because its like Spider-man and Iron Fist fused to make an unstoppable kungfu warrior who sees into the future for a brief second. Or like luffy.
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You're looking at how hard the impact of a single punch is.
I'm talking about the total amount of energy/power the fighter can use.
Sure, you can exert more force when you put more weight behind your punches, but the total amount of energy/power you have available does not change when you switch styles.
That is why you should lift weights next to practicing regular martial arts.
When you have two fighters who are equally good in using the same technique the more powerful one wins.
Power is strength plus speed (speed is determined by the strength of the legs after all).
>UI is a pretty sick power up because its like Spider-man and Iron Fist fused to make an unstoppable kungfu warrior who sees into the future for a brief second
Not that guy but it sounds like basic stuff which Goku ought to have mastered a long time ago.
Yes, but power ups in games generally refer to the objects you pick up (like the mushroom). This simply does not apply in other mediums like TV. Mario learned skills. Flying, shooting balls of fire, breathing underwater those are skills and fall under prowess, not powers.
Spider-man has the powers (increased strength) and prowess (spidey sense) of a spider. Luffy improves the power of the ability the Devil fruit gave him.
>Not that guy but it sounds like basic stuff which Goku ought to have mastered a long time ago.
not in the form of instantaneous reactions. Its a form of fighting every martial artists strives to do. Be able to move the best way with out thinking. Very hard to master.
>Spider-man has the powers (increased strength) and prowess (spidey sense) of a spider. Luffy improves the power of the ability the Devil fruit gave him.
You might be missing the point, the medium we are judging Dragonball off of is Kungfu fighting manga. So when it comes to technique and special abilities over powering with strength is simply not enough. You have to work around it and recieve a different power up that allows you to fight effectively. Basically what ever new tech or new move that aids towards a victory is a power up.
Luffy doesnt just buff up his rubber powers he literally tries to learn Observation Haki which allows him to see moments into the future. only aquited when fighting someone much stronger than you.
Power Ups are whatever aid in your victory. Thats pretty much it.
I wouldn't call Spider-man a Kung fu fighting Manga.
A skill can trump power, but that goes for the opposite as well because it depends on the type of skill.
UI became effective against Jiren the moment Goku was able to put all of his power into it and not before.
Luffy increased his power in gear 1 to 4. Like I said power is speed and strength. Haki is not a power up, it is a skill.
Power ups increase power, Haki is not a power up.
There is still a difference between a new skill and a power up despite them both "aiding to your victory".
Two Heroes series, a FighterZ series and DBSD.
The Fusions manga lasted for 3 years from what I heard.
good lord guys the thread is done