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I love it. People just have shit taste.

Admittedly it's not perfect.

I love both ZZ and Victory cause im not gay lol

>like two of them live
Only for a while, user. Well, I mean, they all live for a while. And they all die.

>It feels like it just drags on
It puts character exploration and interaction over mindless action. Maybe that's why you felt that.
>And I liked most of the characters in ZZ better than those in Victory.
Most characters in ZZ were rather simplistic and didn't have much depth. Of course, that also means there's not much to dislike about them.

Ever hear of Charles Aznavour?

>It puts character exploration and interaction over mindless action. Maybe that's why you felt that.
You say that but near the end it was endless waves of the same wheel mechs and the wheeled ship planet smasher ones.

Ow wow, a series about a huge war ended with a bunch of large scale battles? You don't say.

Admittedly, it did become more like the other Gundams when it went into its "space battle arc", which really fucked up both its pacing and its atmosphere.
But even then it was still much more focussed on character psychology than it usually is. Remember when Katejina sends out those bikini girls against Uso, just to mess with him? I think it was the penultimate episode.

>say series puts characters above mindless action
>but the series has lots of mindless action that feels even more mindless than previous series
The problem is that most of the fights involve the same mechs used over and over again that really weren't even interesting the first time. I think there was another one of those centipede mechs near the end too, but again, I didn't even really like the first fight against one of those. The series is the longest (UC at least) Gundam series at 51 episodes but it feels like the one that needed those extra episodes the least.

every gundam series that is not 0079 and z is hated, on the account of not being 0079 and z

I don't really get why you quoted me but put text that I didn't say there.

You posted something contrary to what the other user I was responding to said. I have no way of knowing you're two different people.

>The problem is that most of the fights involve the same mechs used over and over again that really weren't even interesting the first time.
Wow, you really seem to put much that much value on writing! I mean, who doesn't rate the quality of a narrative by how many different throwaway mecha designs it uses.

You know, 0079 wasn't actually that good.

>writing
>Uso throwing a bitchfit for the millionth time because of PTSD
>the epitome of Tomino introducing characters for the sole purpose of killing them off
Among other things. But having however many episodes of fights being against the same boring mech types is not interesting. Throwaway toy commercial mechs at least offer something new as opposed to wheel mech #300.

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It wasn't actually contradictory, you had to change what I wrote entirely in order to present it that way.

It's a fucking war story and it ends with a bunch of big battles, kind of like every mainline Gundam series before and after it does.

>Uso throwing a bitchfit for the millionth time because of PTSD
Erm, no. You obviously didn't get that it was more than PTSD. But it's astounding that the one time Gundam doesn't just preach about that "anti-war message" but actually shows how war affects the characters, people like you start bashing it for that.

>introducing characters for the sole purpose of killing them off
You mean the Shirke Team? Again, you ignore everything about their characters and reduce them to the plotpoints that happened to them. Maybe you should go watch One Piece or something like that. That seems to be more your kind of thing.

>fights being against the same boring mech types is not interesting.
Hate to break it to you, but once you've grown up, fights against mecha, no matter how varied, are never "interesting". What's interesting is the narrative, not the action sequences.
Well, I guess if you are really into fight choreographies, they could be of interest. But in that case, Gundam is not the right franchise for you and Victory actually stands out positively.

I know that

Weiners Forever is the best Gundam ED. Feel free to dispute this

>the one time Gundam doesn't just preach about that "anti-war message" but actually shows how war affects the characters
This is disingenuous to the point of being unfair. You're better than this user.

>Beyond the Time
>Ai Senshi
>Encounters
>G no Senkou

Nothing to lose your head over

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