WHAT IF, given that Griffith is the Moonlight Boy, the White Hawk can't actually control the Moonlight Boy as if the kid is just using Femto power to tp with his parents (this is backed up by SK words regarding demon child about children unintentionally being drawn to their parents) during Full Moon events? This could open up a way to kill Griffith without feeling like an asspull plus the dilemma of: revenge against Femto vs. killing your son.
Thoughts? I may have exaggerated about asspulling, how do you think events will unfold?
Time ruined Berserk. If Miura had gotten off his ass and wrapped it up 10 years ago it would be a classic, but everything about it is dated now and bringing back Casca in 2019 just feels played out, as if they were rebooting a vintage series and trying to reinvent its tropes to make it fresh and new again.
Berserk is a zombie series. Miura's heart isn't in it.
Joshua Evans
tell me this shit is a joke by the translators
Adam Walker
berserk isn't ruined you dumb fuck this latest chapter was fucking great
Bentley Powell
been ootl and only recently caught up, is he planning on consistent releases or is it just whenever it happens? I saw he had a second project advertised too?
Connor Ward
Not that I know of. And it's Puck. Puck constantly dresses as characters from other series to make references so it's probably totally accurate translation
Josiah Roberts
Goddamn even the doujins are fucking heartbreaking.
Andrew Stewart
No consistency. No next chapter announced. He does whatever he wants and plans on keeping it that way. I heard it's going to be a very short project, Duranki. Or at least I hope it will be for Miura's safety
Guts really needs to leave her. It's impossible to have a relationship with her now.
Gabriel Torres
So, when's the next chapter? Soon, right?
Gabriel Fisher
Ever since the end of the Lost Children arc he's only had the goals of protecting Casca and restoring her memory. Now she doesn't need protection and her memory is restored, so he might just end up abandoning them all to confront Griffith once and for all. Maybe Skull Knight is there to talk to him about that. It won't be easy for Guts to leave though since he has grown attached to his RPG party
It doesn't say he's drawing it, so that's a positive for Berserk.
Brody Foster
I could see him leaving but eventually getting consumed by his demons, opening the door for Casca to save him like he saved her.
Michael Wright
Can Guts let her go? He's been entirely focused on her since Conviction.
Lucas Morales
So how long has the Fantasia arc left? I don't know what for conclusion this arc will have but I don't think Guts will leave his comrades and healed Casca, I just wish he could catch a break though. He was delighted in knowing Casca will be cured from retardation but alas, SK was right and Guts is even more depressed now.
Well one thing i dont see mention here at all is that Griffiths personality sorta has to play along while changed to Moonboy. The child cannot be in complete control, cause in his first apperance at the beach Zodd had to bring him there cause no World Tree Warp yet. You see Zodds Horn and wings in the night. Yes Griffiths Basecamp is not on the other side of the planet, but the child would not walk for days to arrive at the beach. So we know Zodd had to play along, means he was under order by Griffith himself.
Nicholas Ramirez
so she regained her memories but just the sight of guts makes her go crazy? this is too cruel bros wtf
Kayden Ross
it's a good boy
Leo Mitchell
Casca with long hair is the best. Also give her the magic dress back.
Angel Butler
It was mentioning Griffith, whom she brought up herself. Guts literally did nothing wrong. If anyone's at fault, it's Isidoro.
Ethan Johnson
In the chapter she was last seen, she went crazy from seeing Guts. In this chapter seeimg him also drove her even madder. And she was mentioning Judeau not Griffith
Mason Lewis
Forgot to mention that moonboy will be the key to resolving the plot, but not by helping to kill Griffith, rather than return some semblance of humanity to him which leads to destroying himself over Guts once again.
the chapter even mentioned how her trauma is drawing a rift between her and guts. I feel like you read the chapter a bit too fast.
Lincoln Gonzalez
What a nice chapter:
>Casca sparring with Isidro >Farnese showing independence >Judeau is not forgotten >If there's no tax policy episode afterwards, we'll see SK and Guts' chatting about the new direction of the series >Schierke is actually teaching Farnese >Puck self aware jokes >Anons claiming Casca wouldn't be able to fight BTFO into the vortex of souls
>inb4 nothing happened See you in 4-5 months or who knows? Maybe Miura suprises us all with that 30th anniversary chapter.
Maura's art was pretty good this chapter. I've seen other anons say he's probably getting more comfortable with digital art. Do you think this means we will get chapters more consistently?
Ayden Bennett
SEE VOLUME 21
Jayden Phillips
Let those braindead say stupid shit
Jayden Bailey
Actually suprised by Farnese character in this chapter. And hoping for that Paladín of Calcium and Guts conversation.
Nathan Mitchell
Maybe so, should this fucking causality of this world dictate that Miura get off his ass.
30 years is a fucking long time to work on a single series. After the Conviction he probably should've started trying to wrap it up.
Elijah Young
Who do you think spends less time working on their series, Muira or GRRM?
Joshua Hernandez
I think Muira actually wants to wrap up Berserk, even if anons like to say his heart isn't in it anymore. GRRM got enough money to live on royalties for the rest of his life and to be famous. He has an ending to the story now, even if people hate it.
Levi Gomez
Berserk may have been Devilman's heir, but he will be remembered as a wasted opportunity.
Charles Brooks
Seems like most of the critic concerning the series is related to real life time issues leaving the readers frustrated. Just got into Beserk last year an while i can relate somewhat especially cause Kishiro is putting me through the ringer with alita for years now, these reactions seem hyperbolic to me. Yeah the boat sucked, but come on now.
Robert James
I think most people don't wanna get A Song of Fire and Ice'd and be left with no ending after 30yrs of reading something they love.
Jose Morales
I dont want it either but it gets old if that fact is the major thing being dicussed when anything Berserk related gets released. It sucks even more when you consider Skullknight.com and the Berserk Subreddit are such abysmal hellholes man.
Jacob Morgan
Yep. I really despise authors who put their readers through this shit, and then act all prissy when someone tells them to get off their ass and hurry the fuck up. The only reason you're not on the street is because we're reading and buying your shit. Show some gratitude to your patrons and get working you lazy pieces of shit. If you can't for some reason then just end it there and stop torturing your fans and giving them false hope.
Daniel Martin
>Berserk Subreddit Why in god's name would you ever use reddit. I can understand doing it for some obscure series that isn't discussed on Yea Forums but Berserk doesn't have that problem.
Dylan Foster
Yea Forums shares most of its userbase with reddit at this point. It's not just Yea Forums and /pol/ anymore.
Isaiah Myers
Thats not what i meant, sorrt. Both of these site are awful. Just that Berserk gets tons of Yea Forums threads, but they are all Donovan posting, Idolmaster memeing and Hiatus whine. I can appeciate a good shitpost but the ratio is totally skewed.
Parker Hall
Why, it's a good joke.
Jonathan Young
damn phone posting.
Logan Scott
People will run out of thing to talk about, unless there is a new chapter, you will be going over the same shit again and again. Look at the Fate threads for Wormslut arguments aand they are half the damn thread or the Katawa Shoujo general on /vg/ that is at over 2000 threads and is just a chatroom at this point
Juan Thomas
Yeah i guess it cant be helped at his point.
Mason Taylor
How did SK avoid getting btfo by Griffith after he screwed up the assassination attempt?
Logan Gonzalez
It's the nature of discussing the classics, EVA thread will be half discussing obscure shit in the PS2 game or interviews, and the rest is Rei/Asuka shitposting.
Dominic Gray
Guess he just vanished quickly by the help of his sword. Besides Griffith does not seem to care that much about anything.
Brandon Richardson
I cried, bros. I fucking cried. This is what I have been waiting for, but guts is suffering even more now... He made his suffering face, something we haven't seen in ages.
Pretty good chapter overall, despite being such a downer. Intrigued what emotional turmoil moonboy is gonna cause in probably the next issue.
Andrew Sullivan
White peacefull hairs are hidden by panelling, pretty good
Jaxson Baker
>He made his suffering face, something we haven't seen in ages. Did you clap?
Charles Baker
Did the black guy hit Guts' g-spot when he raped him?
Xavier Williams
It's the first time we've seen Guts emote something other than anger in, I don't know, 20 volumes?
Nicholas Peterson
yes
Aaron Hall
It is known.
Benjamin Phillips
aw geez, the suffering continues, I wonder if Casca will go into a coma if she sees Griffith again
Carson Cook
So how long will the hiatus be this time?
Adam Myers
A thousand years.
Kayden Thomas
>People saying Guts should Leave Casca so she can live normally Literally any kind of reminiscing is going to trigger those memories. She's essentially going through what Guts did but in reverse. Guts had his black swordsmen arc where he was just lonewolf murder machine constantly chased by demons because of the brand. Casca essentially felt nothing for years and now woke up good as new but triggering the memories relives the entire moment for her because she never tackled getting through that experience.
Colton Johnson
I think with time (and plenty of fairy magic juice and support gatherings with her new friends) she'll eventually recover. The great question is what will Guts do in the meanwhile.
When she starts coming to terms with what happened (and that's a big WHEN), she'll want answers from Griffith himself. She should be aware that he exists in the same plane as they do now.
Julian Jackson
She's way too fragile for combat.
Josiah Reyes
If you can handle Guts dick you can handle anything.
Bentley Carter
>edition Off yourself crossboarder
Dominic Young
>chestnut puck again When will he turn back into a shota? Chestnut was better when it was rare
This is just soulless garbage. Berserks been dead since he went digital, nothing feels right anymore. Miura seems so disinterested I just can’t do it anymore lads
Elijah Jones
Anons have already said it, but one of the only things keeping him going this whole time has been protecting Casca. With Casca recovered but her trauma keeping him at a distance, there's just one other task on his to-do list, and Skull Knight is probably here to talk about that.
Samuel Cox
Well there is still that gimmick of him and Casca going to Hell when they die unless Griffith is dealt with.
Blake Scott
Reminder that everything Guts has endured with Casca is self inflicted. If he just banged Farnese he would have just had a happy life in a castle and in nobility.
Jacob Carter
Farnese doesn't deserve good things to happen to her.
Samuel Parker
Miura is 20 years younger than GRRM AKA Fat Fuck, so he can afford to move slowly.
Andrew Jones
I like how her ass is accentuated but not in a sexual way, it makes her look vulnerable. really clever shot.
Thomas Brown
More likely Griffith is about to stomp Fairy land, and Guts is going to lose almost all of them. Notice how Miura keeps emphasizing the defenses of this island? Set up for battles scenes.
Benjamin Moore
So we're on hiatus again? Usually he puts a date for the next release.
Ryder Ross
We never left the boat.
Nathaniel Reed
This scene is too painful.
Carson Martin
Probably right after Fantasia Arc, someone/everyone in Gut’s RPG party will die by some horrid means and there’d be very few pages for chestnut Puck to form because it’ll be like before this arc, depressing as shit and with a lot of edge.
Gavin Butler
>this latest chapter was fucking great No it wasn't. It was pretty much nothing
Josiah Watson
>all those death flags on Isidro this chapter oh no no no no no of course he wouldn't, r-right?
What death flags, aside from the Judeau comparison?
Adrian Thomas
Yeah the story is entering the Endgame. I wouldn't be surprised if the next arc is the last
Brody Stewart
>he's grown very attached to you >he'a headstrong just like you >wow, in the old days I never thought you'd accept an apprentice he's done for, just wait until he taps that mermaid ass and he's a goner
Daniel Davis
>Guts and Skelly go to deal with the God Hand or try to assault Falconia or some shit >While gone, Griffith fast-travels his army to Elf Island in his effort to destroy magical beings in the world >After accomplishing whatever, Guts learns of the attack on his friends and rushes back to have a climactic end battle with Griffith to save his friends or maybe they die and he goes for revenge
Andrew Butler
Isidro is the worst character in the manga
Ryder Davis
God this looks like fanart compared to the eclipse. Like, just look at pic related and tell me > soul vs soulless isn't a real thing
Casca's breakdowns are only going to get worse, and she'll use Guts's behelit. Skull Knight is hiding in the bush because he sees the opportunity to strike the Godhand while they're blinded.
Nathan Peterson
I was about to ask if Guts really needed more motivation to kill Griffith, but he hasn't really gone Berserk™ in a while.
What was the fucking point of that dream sequence shit with Casca and Scheisse? Was it not to symbolically help Casca get over her trauma from being apocalypsis-raped? How does it make any sense at all for her not to be able to look at Gutts? Kentaro Miura is a washed up has-been.
Elijah Ramirez
It was return her sanity
Jayden Martinez
>whaat do you mean that going from literal potato to being able to speak isn't an instant full heal of all emotional trauma?? very low IQ post
Brody Diaz
>Decided to power read Berserk today Never thought I'd miss maximum edge/gore/everyone is secretly an asshole but i'll take it over generic fantasy adventure featuring the Burger King Kids club
Oh God please be the last, Berserk should have ended a while ago, like an user said if Miura didn't go on hiatus for so long and actually had focused on finishing the story it would have been renowned as a classic
Both look good. Some of the shot composition in this chapter was beautiful.
Isaiah Jenkins
Why do people keep saying Hiatus? The chapter only ended with a to be continued.
Colton Price
>first time we've seen this nigga since the great bamboozling
honestly surprised he made it out, good on that lad
Kevin Walker
Because Miura’s got the pre-release idolmaster collection.
Bentley Baker
I haven’t seen anyone mention this for some reason. Is miura planning on switching to this lazier art style? Or do you think he’s looking for someone to draw the manga for him? I’m not sure, I assume the former but you never know.
I keep hearing that Guts is gonna just leave the crew but I don't think that will happen. I think Casca is gonna be left behind momentarily or join the crew with Guts in the distance. But even then, we still have Griffith coming over to Elfhelm as the Moonlight Child. So I think Chapter 360 is gonna have SK talking to Guts about what has happened while they were on the boat, Guts making some type of decision to go along with killing the Godhand and Griffith, and then ending with the Moonlight Child arriving at Elfhelm. Then Chapter 361 will be either about the Moonlight Child or Rickert.
Joseph Morris
>at first read through, think Guts is just being an autist about his feelings and hiding away from Casca >now it's actual fact he needs to hide away to keep Casca from freaking out, reinforcing his autist-coping strategies
oh no
Christopher Myers
She literally collapsed and screams when she sees him, what made you think that Guts was leaving for himself?
Hudson Ramirez
it probably took Miura HOURS to find in which volume that happened
William Allen
There’s no way that Casca will be left behind again. This new chapter has showed us how much casca has relied on the group emotionally and Miura would be retarded to immediately re-do freshly tarded Casca. Or maybe that’s what he’s going for, a history repeats itself scenario where Guys leaves the people close to him to deal with Griffith just like he did in the black swordsman arc.
It's reality, my dude. My fella. People grow old. They change. Time is a real deal and concern in people's lives. You can't rush things but you can't put them off forever either.
The author is an old man doing incredibly demanding work. He is not going to finish the series.
When you're pissed off about its rushed ending or having none at all, remember your dumbshit babbling. 30 years is a LONG TIME. Everyone I know started reading at 19/20. We are all in our mid thirties now. Entirely different people being strung along the same dumb shit.
Carter Reed
Then I think the Moonlight Child will help Casca in some way? I dunno. But either way, it wouldn't make sense to revert the progress Guts had while on this journey as well (which was him accepting people into his life once again). Or rather, it would be boring to repeat the same beats Golden Age Arc and the Black Swordsman Arc had again.
Regardless, I don't think Guts would leave immediately because we still have the Moonlight Child to deal with.
too much smudge. if miura isn't used to digital yet he should just make dithered layers and proceed to erase them to emulate manga shading.
Asher Butler
That’s a good point, maybe Casca and Moonboy have an actual sane reunion and there’s real healing or there’ll be some magic bullshit that cures her. Hopefully not that one, but Miura is old now so who know.
William Moore
I think he’s been drawing on digital for a few years now, just making his little lolis for practice.
Grayson Nelson
remind me again what happens in volume 21?
Alexander Edwards
His tear ducts probably killed themselves already.
Dylan Wood
Yeah I'm thinking either: >A. Casca, Guts, and The Moonlight Child have a gigantic reuinion and that allows Casca to accept guts in some way >B. In a twisted fashion, Casca has a reunion with the Moonlight Child but Griffith somehow intercepts it >or C. It's just a regular emotional reunion and nothing comes from it I'm betting it's either A or C but who knows.
Sebastian Martin
Miura needs to cool it with the lolis. I can only get so erect.
Casca is captured and going to be burned at the stake by the religious followers of Mozgus and friends. Isidro and Puck are watching from afar. They meet up with the knight who likes Luca, the followers set the stake on fire and Casca is going to be burned alive, Guts is busy fighting Mozgus so he cannot help, they tie Isidro to a rope and he bungees down to where Casca is, cuts her loose and is pulled back up to rest of the group.
TL:DR Mozgus followers tried to burn Casca alive and Isidro extreme sported down there and saved her.
Gabriel Long
And the FBI can only have so many people monitor him.
I hope Skully and Guts go on a buddy God Hand slaying adventure.
Hunter Scott
Does Guts get his own sick ass horse?
Nicholas Jackson
i wish he found a way to make the madness dog come to the real world so he could ride it
Luis Nelson
Only if its Rape Horse with Donovan's head and magical black dick attached to it.
Carter Howard
The last time you left the party without any words, well we know how that ended, Guts my nigga, remove the berserk armor and let her see what Griffith did to you my man don't just leave, you've fought so hard and for so long, just talk to her she'll recover eventually, don't leave them, Guts
He can talk to her fine as long as she doesn't see the whole of him. Slowly walking her through the trauma is actually how PTSD should be treated, but Guts has to have his dramatic leave again.
Gavin Richardson
She collapsed when she started talking about Judeau, seeing Guts was just the last straw.
Robert Lee
I bet SK is going to tell Guts that Casca is key to beat Griffiths.
William Butler
That has been there for a long time now.
Hunter Cook
There's no indication the Berserk world has anything else except for the Vortex of Souls, though.
Michael Wilson
Flora talked about the regular afterlife in the astral planes. The vortex/hell is definitely something different altogether.
Dylan Allen
If it exists, I suspect that afterlife isn't for humans. At the bottom of the Vortex is the IoE, and IoE is humanity's collective unconscious. There's no reason why humans would go anywhere else.
Aaron Morales
Well if you claim that then you claim Flora was lying. She definitely talks about humans going to a "normal" afterlife, often not even realizing they died because the first levels in the astral look somewhat similar.
Not necessarily lying, but perhaps simply misinformed. We know the structure of the Astral World at this point, and a heaven with hordes of dead people just living there has never been shown or even mentioned by anybody else.
Luke Edwards
I'm fairly sure experienced astral projectors like wtiches, especially Flora, are aware what goes on in the astral planes and they can fairly confidently talk about humans going there when they die. The vortex is an outlier.
Isaac Bell
September is the 30th anniversary. Expect another issue
Dylan Cox
>SK is the final boss. >SK is the hunter >"The hunter" is using "the hound"GUTS to destroy GH and get all the power
Zodd will turn face to join guts and sk. They will then battle the nWo: godhand, and we will see the end of zerk.
Caleb Rivera
The level of the party is now higher than 20 years ago, they need to let casca get the experience points.
Dylan Reed
Nah senpai its gonna have a bigger twist than just Zodd turning
Elijah Lopez
I can't help but feel that human form Wyald was stronger than human form Zodd.
Connor Phillips
>tfw Judeau showed up again but in his final moments ;_;
Isaiah Clark
Goddammit I wanna know what happens next.
Miura you piece of shit, you better not be playing Idolmaster you faggot finish the fucking story.
Julian Sanchez
I fully expect Void to turn on Femto.
Benjamin Thomas
No, final boss will be IoE. There is no other way. Because even if Godhand are all slain, it won't help Guts or Casca, they're still going to hell. Finale should shake the very foundation of Berserk's world.
Parker Hill
To defeat the Idea of Evil, mankind has to change. That's just not going to happen.
Christian Clark
At least the art isn’t shit anymore
Levi Cox
And how do you imagine ending then? Guts and Casca getting rid of the Brand and that's it? Because otherwise they're doomed. The only way for Berserk to end is the Grand Finale and I can't see it coming in the near future. There is still too much to come for that.
Julian Watson
Make out with Slan repeatedly, overthrow other members of God Hand with his family, kill Slan during extremely rough BDSM session.
Levi Walker
>Time ruined Berserk So causality?
Grayson Nguyen
I imagine it ending in the middle of whatever Miura was doing before he died.
Alexander Carter
>dated now >tropes Absolute cancer post.
Brayden Morgan
What did he think was gonna happen is the question of the decade
Nathan Walker
All of the God Hand will turn on him, eventually. They know and we know Griffith won't stop at conquering the mortal realm. He'll try and take over everything.
But even if the God Hand is killed, there's no stopping the cycle of apostle creation as long as people are suffering. A new one will sprout up eventually, or at least more apostles will continue to be created. Since that chapter was axed, I suppose anything technically goes, but I think it'd be really fucking lame to just see IoE killed or destroyed and suddenly it ends.
Humanity's collective suffering and subsequent desire for salvation will never end, and that's the reason why IoE exists according to 83. You can't just kill something like that outside of establishing heaven on Earth. If there's a special link between humanity's collective desire for salvation and the creation of IoE, we better learn about it soon. We're in a hole right now unless future chapters inform us some of 83 is indeed non-canon. Basically this. As of now, I think the most Miura can do is find a way to completely cut humanity off from the other planes of existence. It's only because the mortal realm is intertwined with the others that their influence can reach this far; IoE is from the Abyss after all. In short, delete all magic.
Gavin Adams
Mankind is already changing. What Griffith has proposed to do is the quintessential civilising process that has eliminated 99% of everyday violence and suffering in the real world as well.
Implement that and the IoE will change as well.
Juan Scott
>I waited 20 years for this fucking shit. At least SK is back.
Genocide all magical beasts, then genocide most humans and hook them up on tranquillisers. It's gonna be Eden all over again, the idea of Evil will dissolve for a time.
Adam Turner
I waited all 120 episodes for that to happen.
Thomas Parker
>that has eliminated 99% of everyday violence and suffering in the real world as well Are you joking m8? Look at our world - pretty civilized, and yet in the worst wars happened in the 20 century, golodomor and so on. Also, Griffith didn't eliminated suffering in the real world. Did you forgot that THE ENTIRE WORLD IS FUCKED and the only safe place is Falconia? Falconia is not big enough to be a home for the whole world's population.
Anthony Diaz
I wonder if he makes out with Slan.
Isaac Kelly
Soon Falconia will be the only place with humans. Humans outside of Falconia will be killed off.
The destruction of the old corrupt system was necessary for humanity's progression.
Angel Gutierrez
How can a story have so much love and so much suffering?
>Are you joking m8? Not him, but he is right. Things are much better now. >the worst wars happened in the 20 century Are we taliking about absolute numbers or relative to population size?
Charles Cruz
>miura announces new manga >gigantomachia happened during the boat
>yet in the worst wars happened in the 20 century Not even close. If you take actual percentages of people killed in wars, WW2 wouldn't even reach the Top 10. Genghis Khan's conquests, for example, killed nearly as many people as WW2 at a time when the world had just a small fraction of the population. Various wars in China would kill off nearly 10% of the world's entire population every time. The Thirty Years' War reduced the population of the Central Europe by 30% (50% in some places). Back in our tribal days, about one third of all humans would die from inter-tribal violence; today your chance of dying violently is almost nonexistent.
The world is tremendously more safe today than ever before.
Charles James
The world is still a corrupt shithole. Democracy doesn't work and we need a strong leader that will purge the degeneracy consuming our society.
>Democracy doesn't work Yes and no. It's complicated. "Democracy" tends to be a better place to live than the "autocracy"(I use these terms loosely, as an umbrella for the large and small coalition regimes respectively) and there are several reasons for that. A lot of them are not obvious.
Why is that you whiny edgelords never consider that you will be the ones purged as well?
Evan Moore
I was hoping she would try to fight and do decently at first but fuck up and “lose” so you can see the effects of not training/fighting for months (years? How long was Casca broken in story time?)
Christian Sullivan
I was thinking the same thing, but at a fundamental level he's not changing human nature. The only way he can stamp out the inevitable malice from some of his people in spite of the kingdom he's created is with an iron fist. This breeds resentment and revolution. And fuck knows what will happen if any of those people find out he's a demon and has an apostle arena locked away in his backyard. He's banking on everyone's perception of him as Jesus delivered from heaven. Even if you argue they're not much different in practice, that knowledge alone would cause widespread chaos.
It's a utopia built on a lie, and of the people in the world who know what he truly is, chances are they're not going to sit by without being heard. Rickert is already a huge thorn in his side for this reason, never mind Guts and Casca. And how will he get new war demons without sacrifices? They're not fighting men anymore; they're fighting abyssal monstrosities that can actually fuck his shit up. He needs to keep expanding Falconia to keep his people happy and content, which means more war demons.
I'm also pretty certain Griffith is incapable of folly and possesses some humanity. The child he was born from in his reincarnation ritual, as well as moonboy, could very well doom him in the end. And then there's this fucking guy. I don't think he's settling his differences with the God Hand anytime soon.
Adam Butler
That's Guts job dood.... just unwillingly at first.
David Nelson
Dow e even live in a democracy? The elites can clearly do whatever they want and we are powerless to stop them. The choice is illusory as all (or at least most) politicians are part of the establishment.
Nathaniel Price
Don't worry guys! Guts is smiling again! Too bad he forgot how to smile properly
Human nature is not some immutable constant. We are equipped for goodness, altruism and cooperation just as much as we're equipped for violence and selfishness. Put humans in an insecure, violent environment and they will skew to being shitty, but in a calmer, secure environment their better aspects can flourish. Yes, there will always be people who are born assholes, but there isn't that many of them - only 1-2% of the population are bonafide sociopaths, and even many of those can be productive and helpful in some circumstances.
I don't claim to know here Miura will take the story, but if he has any intention to address the fundamental problems of the Berserk world and the IoE, Griffith's ideas will be the key.
Owen Gutierrez
Jesus Christ you faggots suck. This was a great chapter, but you faggots are still complaining
Adam Sanchez
You'd complain too if a whore was giving you head and then said she'd finish it three months later.
Thomas Hill
People want to see Guts and Casca interacting properly after 20 years, not more of AAAAHH O MY ECLIPSE SAVE ME GRIFFITH
Jacob Cruz
but that's exactly what Casca did to him, she chose Griffith over Guts then got raped into retardation. Guts got to leave so she knows what it's like. Hopefully he'll turn into the berserk dawg and the jrpgs will have to hunt Guts down and have Shierke pull him out. Hopefully Guts will take some of the chaff down with him though, Serpico and Isidro are worthless.
Aiden Bell
The Eclipse was the most traumatic shit in history. SK even said Casca may not be 100% ok afterwards. I can't believe you expected everything to be ok
Matthew Peterson
>actually afraid of women being strong and sexy at the same time Cringe.
Isaac Baker
I didn't expect anything, I just hoped for it. Nobody gives a fuck about the eclipse anymore, it's time to move on
Matthew Cooper
>posting an edited panel of a doujin to make it seem more sad
Miura better address pic related, because I'm still salty about Guts fucking the demon that ate Corkus in addition to screwing someone other than Potato
Why didn’t he just kill it before he was fucking it? Can Apostles not be killed in their human forms or something?
Joshua Evans
He absolutely could have killed the bitch without sticking his dick in apostle juices. Of course they can
Jack Clark
Maybe he needed to get close enough to kill it with its guard down?
Alexander Wilson
I’m pretty sure that when he drew that scene he didn’t know where the story would 100% lead up to and now that he started it that way he’s kind of stuck with it.
Parker Green
Oh, good. I thought I was just a speed reader
Lincoln Anderson
The beast of darkness is the final boss. The series is literally called Berserk.
I said that I use the word "democracy" loosely. I suggest you educate yourself. It's either the book that I've posted or more math-heavy work from the same authors. A rough outline is also available in funny pictures format youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs
David Nguyen
It's easier to kill if you make it think that you got tricked and then blow her brains out
IRC Miura said he didn't have any idea about Guts' backstory in the beginning
Angel Cruz
He had to fuck her to draw out the apostle he was looking for Or wanted to give it false superiority
Chase Flores
reminder that berserk threads are filled with literal retards
Michael Carter
miura ruined berserk because he is a retarded idolfag
Austin Murphy
rip goku
Ryan Gomez
Trying this hard to make “le edgy gattsu demon fucker” not a product of premature publication.
Brandon Adams
Why not? Murderfucking the demon who murderfucked your friend most likely feels cathartic. Also probably feels better than masturbation, so there is that.
Josiah Barnes
Just because it's a product of premature publication doesn't mean it can't make sense
Robert Robinson
This is the problem when hyperautists somehow never want to acknowledge that a fictional work isn't actually set in a rock-solid, real universe where everything is internally explainable. Miura has gone on record saying massive amounts of core storyline (Guts backstory, Casca's whole character, proper context for the demon fetus) hadn't been thought of when he started the series. He only developed the full story during the Golden Age.
Connor Roberts
>Just because it’s an effect of bad writing practices doesn’t mean it was bad writing Come on user...
Michael Robinson
How is it bad writing if it makes sense? Guts was a super edgy warrior who abandoned potato to go on a quest for revenge. Him fucking a demon in order to kill it isn't anything weird and doesn't contradict his character
Nathan Jackson
They're not going to do Black Swordsman again. Miura would be undoing 20 years of character development, and it would undermine Godo's conversation with Guts the night before he leaves for the Tower of Conviction, which might be my favorite moment from Berserk.
Levi Myers
PS I'm actually impressed that he has managed to get it up.
Eli Bell
black swordsman is honestly a tragedy. So many friends of mine never gave the series a chance because they couldn't finish the first 3 volumes. Telling them they're anomalies and that the series gets better doesn't really matter when you have no current investment in the series.
Jose Edwards
Do you suggest we send something?
Dominic Phillips
Your friends have some massive ADD. It would take like an hour or two to get through three volumes.
Landon Bell
He's definitely going to try and leave. Whether he will or not is another matter. If he does the party will just be split between two POVs for a while before Casca and Guts inevitably have their emotional reunion in the 3rd act.
William Stewart
You have less than optimal friends.
Elijah Powell
if you read 2 books and you hate the edgy protagonist, dodgy art and pure unadulterated grimdark, why would you pick up the third?
Daniel Carter
>Oh hi guys it’s me Guts, I’m a rape victim who hates intimacy, unless it’s with Casca, and a few weeks ago I watched all my friends and family get brutally murdered in a bloodbath so graphic and disturbing that my previously mentioned girlfriend, who was raped by my previous best friend in front of me while I had my eye gouged out and tore my arm off, went into such a deep set of insanity that she literally went retarded >Oh yeah, and now I’m fucking the demon that murdered my friend in front of me. Did I get everything there?
Julian King
Not him, but I fail to see the problem. The encounter was anything but intimate.
Asher Kelly
There's also the fact that the brand causes significant pain in the presence of an apostle. Which also begs the question of whether apostles know of that effect. Because if it does then demon lady would have known Guts would see through her plan immediately.
Xavier Martinez
Edgy Guts would do anything for revenge. He more or less got over his fear of sex during Golden Age and after that he's powered by pure hatred. If he's willing to abandon potato for revenge then he's willing to have sex for revenge
Asher Walker
Exactly. Miura only drew these first pages to hook the horny edgy public from the start, because they completely go against everything established about Guts' character during Golden Age
Mason Ortiz
I have no idea how you’re not seeing the issue. In the first few panels Guts is FUCKING the monster that killed his friends right in front of him while the only woman he’s ever loved or been intimate with is retarded and pushed off into whoever was nearby at the time.
Colton Long
Casca was completely unwritten at the time. That a major part of Gut's character would be devotion to his onitis was something Miura only decided on later.
Jayden Clark
I know, I got angry when I saw it to, I can't really remember anything in berserk referencing itself like that before. It always kept immersion I guess, but that line sucked me completely out when I read it.
When was the last time Guts and Puck actually interacted?
Juan Turner
>might be my favorite moment from Berserk. Excellent taste. That's my favorite scene too.
Anyway, I don't think Guts will eagerly fall back into the exact same depressed angry rut he was in, but then again I could see him going down a somewhat similar path if only because of the beast inside him. It's been suggested that it's waiting for an excuse to exert more control over his conscious mind. I doubt this would be enough to trigger that, but it could be a step in that direction. In isolating Guts.
Even him walking away from the tree at the end with Farnese holding Casca and the others looking on sort of mirrors him walking away from Griffith. I wouldn't want to see Guts totally backslide and repeat the same mistakes for the third(?) time including his throwing himself into battle after Gambino's death, but as Flora said, it doesn't have to be a circle; it could be a spiral. And each time Guts falls and gets pulled back up by the Hawks, or Casca, or Puck, or Godot or the current gang, he doesn't lose those lessons. Maybe they get that much stronger.
He's the struggler after all. Falling over and over and getting up each time with help makes some sense.
Noah White
Pretty much anything written in that tiny font is 100% guaranteed to be some super casual 4th wall break and it's been that way ever since Golden Age ended. Conviction ended with Luca joking that she's not even a main character for god's sake.
William Myers
When they went to go see Ged and the other high magi I think.
Easton Myers
But he never had to fuck the thing to kill it. All he had to do was shoot it during anytime before his dick was in it. When the scene was written Guts was not written as the character the story made him before it. The end of Golden Age guts is not the same as the beginning of Black Swordsman guts even though that’s. That would be like if in Spiderman if Mary Jane got murdered by a woman and the comic ended on the scene of her dead and the very next issue had Spider-Man fucking the woman who just killed Mary Jane. The action is incredibly out of character.
Ryder King
How do you know he didn't have to fuck it? Maybe it was a super strong monster. Guts has an IQ of 200 so he made a good plan and it worked
Alexander Martin
Context is everything. Having sex with an apostle is even less intimate than shagging a prostitute or even raping a random girl. At least you've chosen this partner because you think that she is at least somewhat passable as far as looks are concerned. In this case, he uses his body as a honeypot and he doesn't care. Guts at this point also gets off on fear and suffering of demons, which can be clearly seen in the scene with the Baron. This apostle kills through sex and pretty smug about it, so this scene looks ok to me.
>you lazy piece of shit >even though he's done more in his life than you will >including drawing 12+hours a day for 30 years miura doesn't owe any of you anything, even if you bought his books lol
Kayden Anderson
I had to see if I was reading an edited chapter, that shit fucked me up first time around and took me out of it a bit. Definitely one of the worst changes in Berserk and that change ruined Puck. I wouldn't have minded if it was an every now and then thing but Puck is just a 4th wall breaking meme machine. Has been for a long time.
Henry Flores
berserklejerk is better anyway, 90% of r/berserks userbase are just faggots posting pictures of their terrible brand tattoos and fan art
Jaxon Walker
My point is that when you write a long ass story like Berserk, you can’t just start writing what we you want and flesh it out. You have to have a story that you want to follow in mind, if you write a book without a story in mind you get shit like Dragonball GT. Miura wrote this scene without thinking about the story he was following. If the story was just the Black Swordsman arc then this would be fine and make sense. But because we have the Golden Age arc and the characters that come out of it, this makes that scene out of character. Everybody thinks Guts is a mindless berserker retard that only wants to kill Griffith, but he’s more than that and reducing his character to that is almost insulting.
Julian Ross
There's a page where Puck addresses this, saying that if the atmosphere was constantly gloomy then everything would be too depressing to continue. And he's kind of right, we need levity from time to time and Puck provides it where others can't.
Connor Robinson
Because the complaint has always been retarded and remains retarded every time it's brought up. Guts' priorities at that time are, 1) Kill as many apostles as possible by any means, 2) Try not to die, 3) Childhood rape trauma or sacred monogamy or whatever else
You're under the impression that 3 is above 1. It wasn't. And therefore Guts pretending to be seduced to get a guaranteed headshot is not so different from Guts letting himself be captured, grabbed, skewered, or 1 inch from death to get close enough for a sure kill in so many other fights. The difference being reeee sex is more important than anything, which in this context is dumb. Killing apostles > Being grossed out.
Colton Cox
Accurate except that it was way longer than a few weeks ago. Lost Children is 3 years after the Eclipse and probably only a few days/weeks after Black Swordsman because Guts is still treating Puck like he's a newcomer.
Michael Taylor
PS It's really similar to this one. It's just Guts wanted a tactical advantage while Griffith wanted money, which is also a tactical advantage.
Now you’re just reaching. How does fucking a monster make it weaker? Why would Guts have to fuck an apostle to be able to kill it? It was an out of character moment and you defending it to this ledge is embarrassing
Leo Murphy
I agree that Black Swordsman is pretty garbage but this is 100% a hindsight issue. Nobody, least of all Miura, knew what Berserk would grow into. He was just some 20 year old fucking around. People play fast and loose with writing all the time because its much easier to actually produce work that way, as opposed to plotting out your thousand page story completely before committing pen to paper. Nothing gets done that way.
Joseph Russell
My bad, I always forget about Lost Children.
Dylan Myers
your literally asking him to explain the first panel of something he had no idea he how he was going to flesh out then. guts was deluded by anger and acted out of character, is that a good enough explanation, do you need every little thing to be explained ? just like the faggots who want to know all the godhands backstories.
How does tricking the Count by dressing a guy in his cloak make him weaker? How does using Jill to lure and distract Rosine for a surprise attack make her weaker? It's called subterfuge and fighting dirty, and when fighting monsters with terrifying power Guts tends to make use of it whenever there's an opportunity. Don't be an idiot.
Jack Cox
At this point you just have to accept that Berserk isn't a completely serious manga. People romanticise the gritty fights and morbid imagery so much they forget that there's always been an equal number of goofy characters and sarcastic jokes.
Levi Ramirez
>How does fucking a monster make it weaker You don't know where the vital points are before the transformation. You also don't know how mobile its demonic form. It could tank a mortal wound, transform and run away to call for the reinforcements.
Asher Brooks
>just like the faggots who want to know all the godhands backstories. But I just think Void is cool tho
Christopher Martin
how long ago would it have ended, early 2010s?
Bentley Walker
Don't worry. Most people in these threads only pay attention to some random smattering of the story they arbitrarily decide to focus on to the exclusion of all else. You're in good company.
Bentley Powell
So do I and honestly I do think we'll learn about him in context with skullknights story. Im talking about faggots who want slan and the other two faggots backstories explained and can't just accept "they did some fucked up shit in the past, now their godhand"
Benjamin Rivera
Ha Ha! I turned myself into a real-life casca, guts. I am Real Casca!
You get close and can surprise it with your hidden cannon when it thinks you're unarmed
Cameron Perry
At most I would expect a one page summary for the minor 3 members. Unless Miura wants to keep up the godawful strategy of releasing third-party-written books for minor character backstory, like the Grunbeld one.
Juan Williams
Guts planned to shoot the demon in the face with his arm cannon, right? So why didn’t he just shoot the demon with his arm cannon outright? Why does he have to be fucking the thing? If I wanted to kill a man with a gun, I don’t need to make a devious plan to sneak around like a faggot I’d just shoot him. The bottom line is that Guts fucking the apostle is not sensible, it doesn’t give him a tactical advantage and it’s out of character.
Nathaniel Nelson
I'm kind of curious about their backstories, although Conrad seems the least interesting of the group.
Gabriel Sullivan
>So why didn’t he just shoot the demon with his arm cannon outright? Where? The head? The human form is fake, no?
Blake Sullivan
He's right I wouldn't want a max edge series but the 4th wall breaking isn't necessary. Puck turning into Yoda is just whack. I never minded sillyness even in Golden Age or Conviction but it got out of hand with Puck. He used to be a character. Now he is just reference humor.
Gavin Williams
And blow its head off with possibly no injury to yourself, which frees you up to hunt down more apostles sooner. Keep in mind this was before he met Puck, so any injury could be extremely costly. Getting in close by pretending to be a charmed victim is risky, but Guts always fights in risky ways that put his life on the line.
Easton Williams
Wait did I miss this or something
Nathaniel Collins
The demon doesn’t know his arm is a canon, he can literally just shoot it whenever and it’ll be a “tactical suprise attack” Just face it, you’re retarded
No the human form is still the apostle, it’s just that, a human form. These apostle niggas are like bakugans
Hudson Perry
Shit that would mean that the series have a mere 15 years left.
Chase Martinez
2 years + something. Some niggas say 5 years but I doubt
Camden Watson
Jesus it's been so long that I have forgotten about it. Guess it's time to re-read everything until the next chapter
Jack Cox
>So why didn’t he just shoot the demon with his arm cannon outright? Same reason he didn't shoot the Count with his cannon arm the moment he saw him, or the Baron or Rosine. The cannon has limited uses and is his best method of ensuring a kill. So he's VERY careful not to waste it most of the time. Setting up a good shot with that weapon is the difference between life and death in a LOT of fights.
Which only further emphasises the effectiveness of that strategy. A point blank shot to an apostles exposed face in apostle form is certain victory. You'd have him slug it out with a monster in a brawl, waste a valuable weapon on a telegraphed direct attack, and for what? Fucking PURITY? Come on user.
John Sanchez
Did you consider that a gun is more effective when you're close to your target, when you know what the monster looks like and when it thinks you're unarmed and already thinks it has won? Maybe he could have killed it in normal battle, maybe not. He took advantage of the fact that it was a slut who liked fucking and it worked too
Luis Gutierrez
Mentioning Judeau (which she did herself) triggered her, but when Guts tried to comfort her she got way worse. She can't even look at him, which is why he's gotta hide behind a tree. Casca isn't retarded anymore but her trauma is far from healed.
Thomas Thomas
He's only got one shot with it so he wouldn't want to miss. By this point in the story had he only recently gotten the arm cannon?
Lincoln Gomez
We know she was in the cave for about 3 years. The time span from Conviction to the present chapter could maybe be a year by now, probably not more than that though.
Christian Smith
That's not how he uses the cannon most of the time and you know it. You're the one that's reaching.
Xavier Lewis
Pretty sure IoE got retconned and the entire chapter got totally removed from later publications. So current canon would be whatever Flora says is true.
Jose Gonzalez
Yeah you got me there, I’m wrong.
Chase Harris
I'm actually really happy with how Miura is going about this. I though that just having Schierke and farny piss around in her subconscious and watch clip shows was a terrible way to cure her. But it was only the first step and its clear that Casca will need to use her own strength and will to overcome the real challenges.
Justin Watson
I don’t know if I can take another 3 year 10 chapter crawl for her to heal finally
Samuel Reed
I mean, what about the damage transfer? I blow the head off and an apostle has no head? Or the human form is a complicated pseudopod and it's only will be a sizeable flesh wound?
Kayden Hughes
Guts has shown relief and hope in a few of the last chapters.
Brody Martin
That's a fucking retarded idea and I'm glad your not writing this shit.
Hunter Morgan
Yeah, I was worried it would be a cured back to normal no consequences Casca. And while her fighting ability still being high is a bit unlikley being so traumatized that she can't even look at Guts without relapsing is a heavy toll.
Thomas Gray
>Miura-sensei, this ass was really nice
Josiah Hernandez
Flora mentions something lurking in the deepest layers of the abyss so IoE certainly still exists in some aspect, and the constant talks of causality and realms of human emotion still line up with its original origin story. I expect it still exists in a very similar way to what we were originally shown. But you can't really trust anything from its speech with Griffith any more.
Jose Hall
It's also good that even though she can't look at Guts she's still doing what she can, talking with him out of sight and reminiscing about the old days (though I don't think she'll be doing much of that any more). A far cry from the ancient fan theories that she would outright reject him.
Jayden Perez
I think its more just that its behind the tree from her point of view.
Dylan Williams
I would love this story choice if anyone other than Miura was writing it. He does amazing work, but at the cost of months and months of hiatus and I’m frankly sick of waiting 3 years to see something pan out.
Robert Morgan
Wow I'm honestly surprised. Cool.
But yeah, Black Swordsman was clunky (I'd have a very hard time finding the logic in getting captured, disarmed, and tortured on purpose) but I don't think most of it detracts from Guts' character. I just take it as Guts at his most self hating, scared and angry. His absolute lowest point.
I hate the way sansa has been cured. I hate how when she "wakes up" she's just instantly polite, grateful, happy Also fuck basically every character that's joined since golden age
Robert Walker
Yeah but she still hasn’t seen his mechanical arm with sanity intact yet, maybe it’ll play a role in how Casca recovers from her trauma. Nobody knows yet, fingers crossed that it does because I love this kind of foreshadowing
Michael James
That’s a big list of dislikes. Why don’t you like any character at all?
Joshua Johnson
Oh no, he knew. Brand of sacrifice.
Landon Ramirez
The fact is, people would be better off in an autocratic nation run by a benevolent dictator. Problem is that that man will eventually die, and there's no way of ensuring that his successors will be as competent or kind. I think Oswald Mosely had a compromise or solution to this, but I haven't read him yet; I've only heard that he's based and not full fascist. However, is an autocracy moral? Is the most pragmatic and stable solution better than people having rights? A certain based man (pic related) didn't think so.
Farnese is a better character any Golden Age shitter and you know it.
Jose Wright
You should drop this awful manga and forget it exists.
Isaac Perez
Well she’s probably in a good mood being that her sanity has been restored and all. It’s not like she’s pre eclipse and perfect now, she’s still deeply traumatized and troubled.
>O MY FIRE FETISH >O MY RELIGION >O MY BLACK SWORDSMAN >O MY MAGIC great character
Connor Martinez
This actually feel like another manga, Author litterally is past his Beserk Phase >just give us the written original , and revised ending script and lets be done with it.
Jaxson Russell
It seems like most of them just hover around and make stupid jokes. They really ruin the atmosphere compared to the earlier chapters for me. The worst is that during a fight, it constantly cuts back to the other characters watching to see how they react, and they all have some stupid commentary line to give Puck is the worst, why do we need an immersion breaking star wars reference every 5 seconds
Before she cut her hair she was alright
Yeah I barely care how it ends anymore. I think the only reason I'm still reading is that the release schedule is so sparse, every new release feels like an event
Parker Thompson
I forget how big of a honker that frog had
Henry Kelly
Well it's just stretch to explain Guts behavior, he was aware, that there was apostle nearby, but girl could be decoy and actual apostle lurk in shadow etc.
Brody Williams
>thought for years that when Casca wakes up she's just gonna suicide >Miura makes it so that she can't even look at Guts without going insane
I see your point. The truest realization of his dream will have everyone served and none left behind, particularly with eventual elimination of socioeconomic classes and all the evil that breeds. As things currently stand, I can see how this could work in even swaying the IoE. He'll be walking a very, very fine line though. I really meant to bring this up in context of the Idea/Will and how this could fundamentally change humanity's relationship with it, anyway.
This outcomes begs many questions of course. I can still see the utter elimination of magic from the world as the endgame, but it raises an interesting conflict between "truth" and ideals. If people found out the holy Falcon was a demon who sacrificed his comrades for power, all hell would break loose. But would that truth be worth sharing to send humanity back into the dark ages, rife with war and suffering? And what of the remaining God Hand members? Will they just genuflect to Griffith? Whatever his plans are, his kingdom remains fragile. I can accept humanity being placated for now, but as you say, our nature is two-faced. A few poisonous ideals can easily turn into rot, and there some major ones lying out there. All of it depends on his capacity to maintain the peace, and so long as at least Guts, Casca, and Rickert are out there, his kingdom's Achilles heel is exposed.
I also think one thing is reasonably certain - Griffith's ideals won't work without him at the helm. His inhuman magnificence and charisma is getting him as far as he's gotten. He is trying to create a literal heaven on Earth - God's millennial kingdom after purgation of the old world. You can't have that without a messiah, without the power he has to fight the horrific creatures outside the walls. Man, Guts cannot get a fucking break. The toughest decisions of his life yet await him. It certainly won't be as simple as "kill Griffith/God Hand".
Luke Adams
>puck haters Imagine having taste this horrible, Puck was one of the best parts of this chapter. Miura calling himself out on his godawful release schedule was amazing. Almost as bad as thinking it's out of character for Guts to fuck an apostle to get closer to it because you forgot what manga you're reading and thought this was some light hearted romance where Guts would never dream of "cheating" on Casca. >Guts is a rape victim I spit up water reading this, this has to be a troll
Gabriel Moore
The "shit on everything" method of analysis. I have no retort, your argument is too flawless.
Agreed, Donovan paid for it. He's an honest and lawful man
Oliver Murphy
Nice
Levi Bell
>The sweet boy ass has no effect on the hard working simple man
Anthony Gray
>The fact is, people would be better off in an autocratic nation run by a benevolent dictator Correct. Hence >tends to be The problem is that being a benevolent dictator is like running downwind in a storm. Resources are limited. They always are. And you're spending them on citizens and not on your coalition. This gives your potential rival a leverage to bribe your court and army. You have to be a Griffith-tier exceptional leader to avoid dying in a first year. After a number of assassinations the nation ends up with the most ruthless dictator and he rules for a long time because his potential rivals don't have enough leverage to bribe the court. I can see only one semi-realistic option: a religious order as a ruling party all the way from top to bottom. That or a strong AI, but it's fiction for now. Inheritance is also a big problem, yes.
Sebastian Ward
I don't disagree with some of your points, but that last one about Guts not having been raped makes me question whether the whole post was pure sarcasm.
No I just was making fun of that one guy who said that Guts would have some kind of hangups about sex because he was once raped and saw Casca being raped. This is fucking Berserk, not Fruits Basket.
Elijah Martinez
Which arc is this apostle from?
Dominic Campbell
>casca can't forget Griffith's dick Oh fuck you Miura
Christopher Scott
Can’t you read? They don’t have taxes, just sub to his twitch channel.
John Flores
Are you forgetting the entire "don't ever touch me" thing?
Cope more, trannies. Imagine rewriting Miura's story for him to justify your OTP
Jaxon Miller
You actually had me going for a while there, quality job friend
William Reyes
Did you make this? Shits funny, maybe if you slowed it down a little so every joke gets in but other than that it’s good.
David Hill
PUT YOUR GRASSES ON
NOTHING WILL BE WONG
THERE'S NO BLAME, THERE'S NO FAME
IT'S UP TO YOU
Aiden Lee
I get where you're coming from, but maybe help a little less. That aspect of his character isn't trivial, it's just not universally overriding.
There are limits to how much emphasis is placed on Guts' aversion to being touched when his emotional state or a combat situation calls for it. No one expected Guts to start freaking out about cooties in this scene, for example. That said, if it weren't a chance to blow her up, I doubt Guts would want a kissu from Rosine.
>I determine what is and isn't out of character, not the author >well, you see, Miura was just a kid at the time, I would have written a much more cohesive story, emotionally Unironically die
Lucas Clark
But this scene proves my point, not yours. It's more similar to chapter 1 page 1, where Guts does what needs to be done to get the kill, instead of slapping her away and saying EWW, I ONLY LIKE CASCA
Jaxon Barnes
I actually was kind of scared that the first thing she'd want to do was go to Griffith.
Levi Butler
oh fuck, I forgot rosine trys to kiss guts, not even on the cheek as well
Cameron Gray
So the only way Casca can look at Guts is if she puts her glasses on? Or will they have to be pen pals?
Are you so combative you couldn't read that and tell I'm the person that agreed with you in the first place? I'm just telling you to dial it back a bit; your argument relies too much on ridiculous extremes. If you keep up with the "Guts has no problems with intimacy" crap (he does, to a point), I'll have to assume you're being a moron on purpose to torpedo an otherwise reasoned argument.
Puck has been like that for years. Fucking retard Miura is just running Berserk into the dirt. Puck used to be a character, now he is just some chibi faggot irrelevant to the plot who acts as Miura inserting stupid jokes and referencing itself and other media. You see Puck all the time referencing the series, calling people minor characters, commenting on the artwork, pulling out a gun or something for a WACKY WACKY pun that gets lost in translation.
>guts has problems with intimacy Every instance of this is pre-Eclipse. Some people in this thread are trying to make Guts out to be this sensitive pretty boy and I think that misses a major part of what Griffith took from him and Casca, their chance at a normal life. Do you guys think we're going to slay the God hand and then have a reprisal of the scene under the waterfall? The entire point is that we can never go back to that.
the vibe Guts gives when in group is of that dude you start playing a MMORPG with, then you slack off for 3 days and he's like 50 levels ahead when you come back
Hunter Martin
>Every instance of this is pre-Eclipse. That's not because he completely forgot it, but because he has much bigger fish to fry lately. That's all I'm saying. And if I recall correctly even that's not true. Let me see if I can find a page.. Here it is. And another time with Puck before this.
Guts doesn't have to be a sensitive pretty boy to have intimacy issues from being raped as a kid. It's also why he sleeps clutching his sword as an adult. The problem is people think that this aspect of his character overrides everything else, when it doesn't.
Fantasia is so cool. I can't believe people want this story to hurry and end when there's so much potential for amazing high fantasy adventure as Guts' journey continues. If we only had a reliable release schedule.
his sensitivity is a part of multiple other larts that make him up into a rounded out character, just like people in real life. It's just a small part of his personality which can also range to completely cold and emotionless depending upon the situation.
Kevin Campbell
I would like to say, with all the terrible shit going on in the planet in 2019, it is so nice to have a big "friendly" Yea Forums discussion on a popular topic.
Skull Knight can probably defeat all the apostles shown, right?
Jacob Parker
I like that we get to see what Casca is capable of after so long. I remember an argument I had in a thread long ago, where an user was claiming that Casca wouldn't even be a match for Isidro. I thought it was bullshit then. I know it's bullshit now.
I'd have loved to see her duel Serpico, but he never spars with anyone, and even if he did he'd probably just lose on purpose.
I love discussing Berserk with people who actually like the damn series. Sadly, those people are few and far between on Yea Forums sometimes. Shitting on everything outside of this-or-that is practically down to a science in many Berserk threads.
This is basically non-canon at this point. It'll never be brought up again and it's insanely out of character for Guts, even if you defend it with him being a rage murder-autist.
Alexander Martin
He's there to ruin user's immersion. Current Puck is so evil he can even travel back in time (and even to previous volumes.)
that but casca has to save guts instead so that we get to see a nice little pay off to his quest. casca will not be in love with guts anymore though and now they are just old pen pals.
Asher Bailey
Young Zepek vs. Pre-op Griffany.
Leo Morgan
Forgot to mention that he even tried to strangle Casca at first while fucking her, that's how much he can't stand intimacy.
Nathaniel White
He so strong he can break the fourth wall
Nathaniel Rivera
It's no more out of character than all the other times he put himself in imminent danger or compromised his morals for a perfect killing shot. Stop putting physical contact on a higher pedestal than the character in question does.
Even if Guts does leave, we know his party will go after him immediately. So this won't be too similar to the last few times he fucked off and even if people care they didn't do anything about it. However, with time being out of sync between the real world, a lot could happen with him before he gets saved by his RPG party.
>we know his party will go after him immediately. If he left right this second, yeah. But that might change, depending on what's happening in Elfhelm at the time.
Skull Knight's there, Moonboy might show up soon, Femto knows what Moonboy knows which means he could attack the spirit tree and mages there, and so on. Not hard to imagine the author creating a situation that splits up the group soon.
I mean, that's Griffith. Who wouldn't want to be embraced by the messiah?
Adrian Ramirez
Would you freak out if Griffith touch you?
Angel Roberts
And then continued to fuck her some more. He got over it
Jonathan Roberts
Well, I don't mean that they'll meet him right away, but they'll definitely put getting Guts back at a top priority. This is unlike when Griffith let him fuck off without saying anything or Rickert and Godo decided to let Guts go on a murder spree. He has 0 chance of leaving quietly this time, even if they're apart for a while.
Isaac Powell
Don't you talk like that about my boy the calcium cavalier ever again
tall for a human, zodd does the same shit as wyald and makes his "human" form bigger
Liam Gonzalez
>Casca will not be in love with Guys anymore I’m gonna ignore that
Isaiah Ward
>those nice thic toned legs
Eli Baker
it's true though, after all they've been through I just genuinely believe she won't love him anymore. the chance for a normal life got taken away and it was already extremely awkward watching them interact for the first time before she started screaming at him. she still cares for him, but she won't love him like that anymore.
Easton Ward
>casca will not be in love with guts anymore How about shut up?
>misread anons as Anubis and got hype for a new Apostle
Noah Jenkins
He focused on her because she was the one thing he wanted to fix. Now that she's fixed, and knowing that the only thing that triggers her PTSD hard is himself, he'll go out of his way to avenge the Falcons and likely wants to die trying.
Ethan Bell
You may want to get some glasses man
Connor Butler
I had my glasses on.
Embarrassing.
Caleb Howard
I'm holding out some kind of hope that after everything if they're still alive, Guts and Casca can leave together and be happy.
Blake Watson
Maybe you should be your grasses on instead?
Owen Jackson
NOTHING WIRR BE WRONG
Benjamin Thompson
I think it was more so the one thing he wanted to *save* than the thing he wanted to fix. Seeing his expression when Casca freaked out I can't see him abandoning them.
Ethan Howard
Your mom did.
Caleb Gomez
FEER NO SHAME BOUT SHAPE
Ayden Barnes
I wouldn't mind a Shovel Knight ending for them. Side by side looking into a fire.
Evan Smith
TELL ME RAI TELL ME RAI TELL ME RA YOU RAHN
Nathan Gonzalez
>Casca is back. God damn it. I wish my uncle was here to see it. He was a massive Berserk fan since mid 00's and introduced me to the 90's anime and then manga. He died little under a year before the boat made it. He never got to see elfhelm, and not to mention Casca coming back.
It's alright user, write it down and tell him when you get there.
Gavin Gray
Rest in peace, and power to him. Great taste. Sorry for your loss.
Jaxon Mitchell
He doesn't want to abandon them, but he still has to avenge his comrades and he knows the power levels are too high for his party to trot along as they once did.
I mean sure, they could help beat a few dumb fantasy creatures, but an Apostle? That's way higher tier, only Guts can stand up to them.
Eli Martin
AH DUN NO RAI DUN NO RAI TOO RATE ISS TOO RATE
Nathan Carter
she doesn't browse berserk threads rip
Joseph Barnes
I can't believe Casca is back. After all this time.
Sebastian Cooper
Alex, what are you doing here instead of taking out out the fucking trash you useless shit? t.user's mom
Anthony Perez
You don't think they could kill apostles? I don't think they could do it alone, but I guarantee they could do it together. Schierke can summon floods and do crazy magic stuff, and the more farnesse learns the stronger she becomes as well.
Brayden Kelly
Anyone else think Casca is going to run off to kill Griffith and the rest will have to follow her?
I don't blame him. Put out 2 chapters a year, and sell your manga to garbage anime studios is probably what every piece of shit would love to do. Miura is set for life, and running Berserk into the ground isn't going to stop it from making money for him. It makes sense why he wouldn't finish it seeing as that is his main source of income and requires minimal effort to do. The man even does less than Togashi, that should tell you how lazy or disinterested he is.
Caleb Ward
Why would you think this?
Sebastian Evans
Miura will keep on giving hope because this way he can still make money. It's not his fault there are idiots like this who are willing to stomach his low-effort diarreah.
Jacob Morris
It is now.
Brody Lewis
Huh. I honestly thought that Rosine was a lesbian.
Well, I knew that she said that Guts was "handsome" and that she could see why Jill in particular would be infatuated with him. I didn't notice or recall that she actually kissed him though. I don't know.
Gabriel Perez
I was just making a joke doggie, I'm pretty sure sure that Miura was just doing a "Look at these two characters with heavily implied homosexual tension, sound familiar?" thing
Why should he.....what's the easiest way to get close to an apostle? ANYWAY the demon that killed karcus was basically a sex fiend. So you play her little gaame get a few pumps in she turns Indo a demon oh look an apostle I knew it! *Pins her with sword* "where's griffith " you will die. "Not before you....again where's griffith" il never tell "okay well goodbye * cuts her in half*
Logan Lee
This panel of guts is very sad but outside of the context it could really work as a "yikes" reaction pic.
His goal was to kill apostyles he killed em alright you can whiclne bitch moan and groan cuz nu-gutd wouldn't do it but proto-guts when he was full on manic depressive. He would
Xavier Jenkins
Neck yourself
Ian Lopez
Reminder: Berserk threads are full of literal retards.
Ayden Lopez
>Reminder: Yea Forums is full of literal retards FTFY
Thomas King
Im here and I hate liberals.
Joshua Gonzalez
He said literal not liberal, fucking retard, you just proved the point.
Colton Taylor
I don't have my glasses on right now, so everything is blurry.
Kevin Adams
But did you put your grasses on?
Jordan Rogers
Guts didn't get raped by monsters you fucking dipshit and you can't compare her to Guts. They are not the same person, she's a woman he's a man, shove your equality glasses up your faggot ass. She will not deal with it like he can, she's fucked to either go mad, brain-reset again in one way or another, or just keep falling unconcious untill she completely remembers and triggers a tragedy.
Henry Lee
If he leaves randomly it will be the dumbest decision of his life. He went there to make sure she's ok, now that she's obviously not fucking ok he'll cause her to go nuts on her own and do something stupid just like Griffith did when he left him. No leaving, make sure the bitch is ok first.