Rin >lost her dad >sister given up >mom a vegetable
Shirou >lost all family >acquired autism
Shinji >mom died? >dad left? >raised by zouken >usurped by his adopted sister
Sakura >given away to Zouken >raped by worms regularly >abused by Shinji
Illya >dad abandoned her >mom dead >grew up in isolation >regularly surgically opened up to alter her body >"raised" by Acht >carrying the burden of bringing meaning to the existence of hundreds of years worth of homunculi
Same level as Shirou, he lost his family and has autism.
Wyatt Sullivan
Imagine being reborn as a parent in a FATE setting.
Adam Nelson
Future Fate VNs >will never happen because Fate Global Offensive is more successful
Liam Thompson
Rin's finanaces were given to Kotomine who made sure to squander all the money slowly.
Shirou's autism made him do magecraft wrong for years and everytime he used magecraf he was putting his life in mortal danger.
Shinji's mom and dad got fed to the worms. Shinji grew knowing of magecraft but circuits never activated and Zouken was too much of a troll to do anything about it.
Nigga they weren't making more fate VNs before FGO so what makes you think they were ever going to make more? They'd already moved on to mediocre JRPGs long before the mobage craze, and moved all their "we want to tell actual stories" to light novels and manga.
>Heaven's Feel >everything is set up to be Illya and her family history >naw jk it's sakura >who cares that it doesn't make any sense for all that stuff to be tied to her lmao They talk a lot about how inconsistent the Fate route is, but Heaven's Feel is just as bad about it. No wonder they did it as movies considering the amount of shit they've been cutting from the story.
Eli White
>Just watched the movie. WTF I hate Sakura now, I pitied her after learning she's a rape victim and all that shit but she slowly becomes the real monster at the end. So it's all going downhill after this huh?
Jack Reyes
>becomes the real monster All she's done is kill Shinji so far, secondary.
Andrew Bennett
What a monster
Christian Flores
Zouken explains that he placed shards of the grail in Sakura as an experiment to turn her into a grail.
Ryder Gutierrez
Unironically Shinji might have the worst suffering. Illya's circumstances are more tragic, but in most scenarios she's willing to fulfill the Einzbern legacy when she could easily fuck off and play around for the remainder of her life, so she's at least comfortable with what life gave her. Wakame was treated like an insect in his own home, watched his relatives get disowned or become worm-feed one by one, had the only expectation that could ever potentially be placed on him be stolen by some random adoptee, then had to fear the eldritch horrors and future plans Zouken kept locked up in the house for years with no emotional support.
Levi Thomas
Ignore him, just another fgo hater.
James Kelly
>she could easily fuck off and play around for the remainder of her life She literally can't until after the HGW is over, and normally she was never intended to survive the HGW anyway
Leo Ortiz
>dad abandoned her Lies and slander. He tried to come back to her but he was blocked. He did nothing wrong. >Shirou You forgot >having to deal with Sakura's roastiness
Kayden Myers
He did abandon her by shooting her in his mind to save random people when he was in the grail. He regretted it and tried to make up for it but he abandoned her.
Isaiah Cruz
>normally she was never intended to survive the HGW anyway That's all I meant by "the rest of her life". War or no, her expiration date fast approaches. I don't think there's anything particularly forcing her to turn into a cup though. In fact, she could probably cancel the ritual entirely, at least in the practical sense of it having a potential winner, just by leaving Fuyuki. The only things even potentially in her way are Liz and Sella, the Einzbern family is on its last legs by the time of the 5th War. She willingly chose to participate, partly out of duty and partly to settle her feelings for Kiritsugu.
Jordan Myers
I wonder what it says about the fact that the guy he's most compatible with is Shirou.
Connor Cooper
You're a liar and a faggot. He didn't shoot "her". He knew it was the grail showing him an illusion.
Jack Morgan
I'd like to note that every one of those shades that were roaming the city? The shades which were literally overflowing the city to the point that they pretty much covered every square inch of it? Those were all Avengers who died across the loops. A single shade is left behind every time Avenger dies.
Bazett and Avenger died a LOT.
Jayden James
>The only things even potentially in her way are Liz and Sella, the Einzbern family is on its last legs That's more than enough to prevent her from buying a plane ticket and trying to leave fuyuki, hell she probably doesn't even have the money to buy a ticket. And she had berserker long before she left for fuyuki, so she literally can't not participate after leaving Germany. And lastly, servants' souls will still find their way into her since she is the vessel and she'll slowly stop functioning. Participating is literally her fate.
Cameron Barnes
And you're a retard. Do you think he was tricked into picking the randos over Illya and Iri in the grail illusion? No, he decided himself because that's what he'd do in real life.
Thomas White
You're continuing being a faggot, but now you're also projecting your incalculable stupidity. He knew that everything he was being shown an illusion and he was rejecting his dream. He wasn't actually choosing to murder his daughter and you're the ultimate retard in all of the Fate fandom if you unironically believe this.
Daniel Anderson
I didn't know delusional kerryfags were a thing >hey daughter, I love you but I'd put a bullet in you without a second thought to save 2 strangers Why a great guy.
Brayden Collins
So, whats the optimal way to watch the movie? I heard the official subs are pretty shitty and some user fixed them. I have this, I don't know if they got updated further drive.google.com/file/d/1u-eRUBqWuTX9lGi8heTKWkSfZeP4TcdQ/view Also I downloaded the BDMV file when it came out, can I even manually add subs there or should I download another version?
Jace Robinson
On a screen with your eyes I'd imagine
Ian Adams
He also didn't get to kill his wife himself, which is a bummer.
Josiah Parker
That didn't happen, it was an illusion, you gargantuan abortion survivor. You're clearly too retarded to understand basic plots so stay from everything that isn't the gacha; clearly that's the only thing you're mentally equipped to handle.
Leo Gutierrez
Do we even know of any Rainbow Mystic Eyes other than Death Perception? Supposedly, Crimson Moon had Rainbow Mystic Eyes, but we don't know what they did.
Austin Ortiz
>Shinji's mom and dad got fed to the worms Wait, what? Where was this actually stated?
Brandon Flores
How is that her fault? All those years being the matou Guinea pig and a nest of worms broke her