We can all agree now that the Galactic Patrol should never happened, right?
Dragon Ball Super
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Nah, your taste just sucks
That was always the consensus
Shut the fuck up
dbs anime was shit, manga is downright retarded
DBS as a whole should never have happened.
They're the comic realief of the arc, so that's to be expected. At least Moro is cool.
Merus is clearly more than that which is infuriating
we dont have to agree on it since it didn't happen anyway. Toyo's fanfiction is non-canon
They exist in the anime too
only that one purple faggot, god i hate that annoying guy. But he is mostly in filler episodes so who cares
kale and caulifla becoming super saiyans is bullshit, but this trend was started by trunks and gotens in the majin buu saga.
yeah, once you make more transformations the lesser ones become meaningless and are given to everyone for free. Imagine in 20 years when Pan's son unlocks Ultra Instinct as a baby
only if you can agree most of dragon ball past cell should never have happened
More like all of DBS. Yes, from DB to DBZ there were retcons too (Satan suddenly being an alien), but no gigantic ones.
>Satan suddenly being an alien
WHAT?
I think he means Piccolo.
no, he meant Satan. Did you forget that one arc where Satan becomes an alien?
How you gonna act when the anime doesn’t change anything
Coincidence? I think not?
>They are both wizards
>They both look like a Goat
>They both consume worlds to achieve their goal.
Think about it. It makes sense.
>Xehanort
>consuming worlds
Nope, that's heartless job, and they only take the core (the heart), Moro takes the life of every single thing and material in the planet.
Also
>Xehanort
>wizard
Donald is wizard, Xehanort is a swordsman that uses magic like basically every other swordsman in KH (in fact his final "form" is him using a fucking giant sword)
TOUCH MY SPECIAL PLACE.
I like this chapter, it was fun
Will be cool to see the Z fighters get some action too, things are looking up
Trunks the white mage.
Where was Merus when they fought Freeza?
Where was Merus when they fought Boo?
Why wasn't Merus invited to the ToP?
This is probably the worst chapter in the whole manga.
i just finished super and it was the worst shoen ive ever seen
>Police force that spans the galaxy
>Does absolutely nothing to stop Frieza, literally space-Hitler
Atleast the Kais had somewhat of a good reason for ignoring Frieza, with the whole "mortals must advance by themselves" logic.
Why did you start Super in the first place? Were you not warned?
Our Prince.
How will trunkfags ever recover?
>blacked
Is it finally happening, is our husbando finally going to kill the big villain this Saga?
sadly probably not. seems like it's going to be the same old shit.
Where was Merus when they fought Freeza?
Where was Merus when they fought Boo?
Why wasn't Merus invited to the ToP?
This is probably the worst chapter in the whole manga..
AAIIIIIEEEEEE
>Where was Merus when they fought Freeza?
>Where was Merus when they fought Boo?
>Why wasn't Merus invited to the ToP
He was busy fucking your mother
>Where was Merus when they fought Freeza?
Freeza's empire fell around 20 years before the current arc. It only recently resumed activity.
I'd like to add that being fast and having a stun gun doesn't take down an army. He's not Goku going against the Red Ribbon Army. Ever Freeza Force soldier can use Ki, and I'm betting he's the kind of fighter who is good in a fight until you get one hit on him.
>Where was Merus when they fought Boo?
The Buu arc happened in a very short period of time. Only two days at best. By the time Buu started blowing up planets, it was basically over.
>Why wasn't Merus invited to the ToP?
Goku was in charge of choosing who would fight in it.
If he's able to handle ss3 and take on Morro with no real sweat, Frieza's new army should be pickings to him.
>If he's able to handle ss3
He can dodge it and parry but he's not shown to actually damage Goku in this form.
>and take on Morro with no real sweat
He used strategy to surprise him. He only blinded Moro for a moment and didn't actually do any real damage, only left an opening for Buu to grab him.
>Frieza's new army should be pickings to him.
It's Freeza dubfag, and no it really wouldn't. You can't dodge an entire army.
Pacohackotracertaco's self-insert avatar literally has UI and casually beats SS3 Goku
Ultra Instinct, an angel tier technique that is so legendary and difficult that even Beerus (one of the best fighters among the GoD) can't master it - Pacohackotracertaco's self-insert avatar somehow has it
Goku considerds the possibility that Pacohackotracertaco's self-insert avatar can even handle Moro
Where was Pacohackotracertaco's self-insert avatar when Buu was threatening the entire universe and almost deprived it of their deities?
Where was Pacohackotracertaco's self-insert avatar when the Galactic Patrol failed to capture pre-RoF Frieza?
In fact, why does Pacohackotracertaco's self-insert avatar even exist?
On a related note, Pacohackotracertaco traces himself yet again.
OUCHIES MY DRAGON BALLS
Epic pasta, I hope you post it in other threads in the future so I can laugh again
As if Dragon Ball as a franchise should have ever happened.
I mean come on all these transformations and powerups are first introduced as super impressive and then become jokes. Vegeta even points out that with Trunks going super Saiyan casually after he, Goku, and Gohan had to sweat their arses and had to know rage and loss to achieve it that it became kind of a joke.
>tfw stronger than Jiren and breaking toeiturds' weak minds right now
Without memes or buzzwords, could someone tell me what they dislike about the arc? Personally, I find it feels like it's dragging a bit, kinda like the anime version of the Black Arc.
Where's the arc where Cabba attains Super Saiyan 3 by concentrating on his groin tingles while Kale and Caulifla try to break his hips with snu-snu?
Daily reminder.
Please no.
Dabura, Mr. Satan, or Piccolo?
WHAT IF I GIVE UI TO EVERYONE? *TRACED TORI'S RAUGH*
Wasn't Jaco too much of a bitch to deal with him?
Toriyama does the same thing every arc, my dude. Vegeta gets thrown a bone so he's a credible force, and then loses so the main baddie can be called badass by people like it's a fresh and revolutionary development.
It's just a matter of time now
Juan Pablo is still mad the anime was cancelled before have the chance to adapt this arc
So, how dis gookdom reacting to the chapter?
Did he train with Roshi? He can just ask Roshi, the master of UI, who can style a character trillions of times stronger than him, to teach him.
>cancelled before have the chance to adapt this arc
>IESLB
Why am I not surprised that the spammer of the shit "cancelled" meme is a spic?
>not even same pose
>none of the panels even look remotely similar aside from the last one
>arm and leg positioning is different
>Goku himself is wider
You're have to be a huge brainlet to think this is tracing.
Everything else is debunked.
It seems that this aspect of Toeichads' intellectual barrage always eludes the toyopacos' grasp, and I mean beyond their petty attempts at going for semantics.
When Toeintellectuals say Hackotaro is "tracing", they aren't merely speaking the cases found where he actually traced. It goes way beyond such mundane concepts. You see, we say tracing, we condense a wide array of artistic mishaps, incapabilities, dishonesty, lack of talent, inaccurate perspective, being unoriginal, disappointment, lack of lore knowledge, and the list goes on.
We, the audience, have been able to point out an innumerable cases of blatant tracing, where he literally copies other panels and adds slight changes. Now, imagine the sheer number of occasions that go under our radar.
You clueless people seem to think that if he doesn't copy paste a panel exactly as it is, with-- as you like to screech so often-- congruent lines, then its not tracing. Of course he is not going to do such thing. He is a hack, not an idiot. He uses other people's panels as a reference, and then he applies modifications.
We were able to denote what happens when he strays from this behaviour. Nothing but crude, out of proportion, and wrong perspective drawings come out as a result.
I don't blame you for your ever present and imposing ignorance about the artistic world. Not everyone can be a sagacious intellectual as the Toeichads. We do ask you to try and open your minds a little and consider the wide spectrum of artistic nuances we refer to with the simplistic term known as "tracing".
Now shut your gaping hole before pretending to know anything about art again.
>toeijirenpedro calling others spics
>also implying I'm the only one aware of Toei's fanfic cancellation
Take this (You) and leave, Pablo, you have more pastas to post
>copypasta made by an unironic samefagging spic
I accept your concession.
Cope and trace, hackotaco tracing paco
you know its gonna happen eventually, and it's gonna be done for a gag. Something in the lines of Piccolo trying to catch the baby to feed him or place him in the bed and the baby will auto dodge everything while piccolo is chasing him around the room
>Daily reminder.
That Goku foreboded the others from killing Vegeta. Thus allowing Vegeta, to take his time to escape at his leisure.
Why are you even replying to the toeiturd? He's just begging for replies, and this time he's not even using new material, but pastas from previous threads
The only one coping is the guy seething about his anime getting shitcanned.
Cold nippon steel is saiyan kryptonite
>PACOPACOTRACERPACO
Why do Toeishits always say the exact same thing? Are they that intimidated by Toyotaro's success?
>everyone making fun of spicohackotracingtaco's tracing and hack writing and his pathetic abomination of a new chapter with self-insert gary stu avatar of spicohack "the tracing tracer" tacotracertaro himself having UI for no reason, filler content and nothing happening, gigantic plot holes about tracertaro's self-insert never stopping frieza and buu, and of course YET AGAIN tracing
>B-B-B-BUH-BUH-BUT ANIME CANCELLED!
Cry. Cry and Weep.
>Cold nippon steel is saiyan kryptonite
I thought that was Puar?
>the toeifag continues seething, as he unironically types out this abhorrent post, filled with broken English
Get a job.
>no argument
Seethe and trace, pacotacospicohackotracingcucko faggot
It seems that this aspect of Toeichads' intellectual barrage always eludes the toyopacos' grasp, and I mean beyond their petty attempts at going for semantics.
When Toeintellectuals say Hackotaro is "tracing", they aren't merely speaking the cases found where he actually traced. It goes way beyond such mundane concepts. You see, we say tracing, we condense a wide array of artistic mishaps, incapabilities, dishonesty, lack of talent, inaccurate perspective, being unoriginal, disappointment, lack of lore knowledge, and the list goes on.
We, the audience, have been able to point out an innumerable cases of blatant tracing, where he literally copies other panels and adds slight changes. Now, imagine the sheer number of occasions that go under our radar.
You clueless people seem to think that if he doesn't copy paste a panel exactly as it is, with-- as you like to screech so often-- congruent lines, then its not tracing. Of course he is not going to do such thing. He is a hack, not an idiot. He uses other people's panels as a reference, and then he applies modifications.
We were able to denote what happens when he strays from this behaviour. Nothing but crude, out of proportion, and wrong perspective drawings come out as a result.
I don't blame you for your ever present and imposing ignorance about the artistic world. Not everyone can be a sagacious intellectual as the Toeichads. We do ask you to try and open your minds a little and consider the wide spectrum of artistic nuances we refer to with the simplistic term known as "tracing".
Now shut your gaping hole before pretending to know anything about art again.
BOOM
Yes.
You can stop being delusional and just accept that the manga is trash now.
Moror really, didn't expect him to reach peak already. He's basically king piccolo again except can eat planets and have an even bigger pool of overpoweredness.
>still seething
Get a job.
>no u
Learn some English, manolito.
Puar is a shapeshifter, he could be a dragonball if Toriyama willed it.
Nope
Tacopacospico "Wheerever I am, I must also trace" hackotaro fags still haven't explained why the self-insert avatar gary stu space cop didn't stop Buu and Frieza.
You're the chaddest around.
See
Bitch they were the children of Super Saiyans so they could go Super from birth (or nearly). That was always the consensus wheter official or not, and it was a weak excuse for us to accept more Super Saiyans but it worked. Official or not, when you read/watched it, it subconciously made sense since everyone else in their family went golden haired so sure, they can too. And Vegeta points it out somewhat comically himself, so you're seeing him and you're like "yeah lets just roll with it big guy. Trunks and Goten barely do anything this arc anwyays it barely matters."
Now when it came to Kale and Cawhatever and they wanted THEM to turn Super so they'd be relevant, the excuse was dowright fucking retarded. They are the first Supers of their universe right? But we gotta make them go Super Saiyan. So Vegeta just fucking insults (?) Cabba until he goes golden, and Cabba just VERBALLY EXPLAINS to the others how to fucking do it by feeling the now infamous "tingle" in their backs. And you're suppose to take that for real, like, it's not funny. It's not even shitty but self-aware in a "yeah just roll with it" way like the kids in the Buu saga. It's just fucking lazy. Like most of DBS.
>UI user who can outspeed Super era Goku and Vegeta, fight Moro without getting instantly nuked, EASILY handle SS3 Goku can't stop Frieza because LMAO HIS 1K PL AVERAGE ARMY HAS KI
I asked for explanations, not damage control.
>weaker than Belmond (except brute force-wise)
>weaker than Zamasu (no way to bypass his immortality)
>weaker than Moro (literally zero counters for his magic)
>weaker than Goku (UI)
>weaker than Merus
>weaker than Quitela
>weaker than Beerus
>weaker than Gogeta
>weaker than Vegetto
>weaker than Broly
>if you count Heroes, weaker than Cumber and Hearts too
What went wrong?
BASED
Oh wait, I forgot Puar is a girl
>UI user who can outspeed Super era Goku and Vegeta,
...and?
>fight Moro without getting instantly nuked,
He blasted him in the face with his boots that don't run on Ki and all he did was blind the guy.
>EASILY handle SS3 Goku
He didn't. He dodged and parried but didn't actually injure him in any way.
>can't stop Frieza because LMAO HIS 1K PL AVERAGE ARMY HAS KI
A guy who has shown that he is only good when dodging and taking people by surprise, going against an entire army will not win.
>Merus has an auto-dodge
Hey fellow ToeiJirenbro. Still have the shitposting habit? You're one of us already. You admitted it yourself.
Definition of damage control. Haha
>no argument
Guess I win.
Yep, they thought it was a small promotional manga because some random fan site said it and can't cope with the manga being canon and profitable enough to continue after the ToP (unlike the anime)
Merus is just fast and has great skills in dodging. Nothing implies that he has the strength to survive Frieza blowing up a planet or anything Buu.
Meanwhile Toeinigger fans still haven't explained how Merus is a self insert, why Purple Vegeta is even a thing, how Goku slipping into a spirit bomb was a better way to trigger UI rather than Goku using all the lessons he ever learned from his masters, why making Jiren a /reddit9k/ user instead of a hero was a good idea, or how animation this fucking terrible should be allowed for Dragonball.
>Merus is an Angel.
Nope. All angels names are related to alcoholic drinks, and ''Merus'' comes from merus, the largest segment of the king crab's leg segments, or is a pun on ''surume'', a traditional Japanese dried squid snack.
Nothing in your shitpost makes sense, jobrenburro. Learn english before shitpost again
Does it really matter if the manga or anime is canon when both are shit? Can't we just say DBS as a whole is non-canon and be done with it
The argument is there, little cucko. You grasping at straws and splitting hairs to even attempt to create a different point of view, changes nothing. It's all a convoluted nonsense clusterfuck. Which would be worrying if it was canon.
>...and?
And it means he can kill 1k powerlevel shitters in an attosecond without their brains even processing what happened while also being invincible defensively, spicohackotaco retard.
>He blasted him in the face with his boots that don't run on Ki and all he did was blind the guy.
Not the point, stop deflecting, spicohackotaco retard. He was up against an SSG/SSB tier opponent and didn't get instantly mogged. Anyone such as Namek Frieza would.
>He didn't. He dodged and parried but didn't actually injure him in any way.
H-H-HE ONLY DISPLAYED ABSOLUTE SUPERIORITY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. Cope,spicohackotaco retard.
>A guy who has shown that he is only good when dodging and taking people by surprise, going against an entire army will not win.
Nice headcanon, spicohackotaco retard. Conveniently forgot about the part where he took out multiple of Moro's followers with his overpowered laser gun, eh? What is next, gonna headcanon that his overpowered laser gun can't oneshot Frieza's shitty low powerlevel mooks? You desperate, desperate spicohackotaco retard.
Could be a fake name, or maybe they were trying to make it less obvious (because not a single soul wouldn't realize the guy with silver hair and eyes and named after some alcohol is an angel)
Merus is weird as fuck.
>capable of dodging even SS3 Goku attacks
>but apparently can't fly on his own
>doesn't seem to be very strong (strength-wise)
Like Vegeta said a few chapters ago, this motherfucker is hiding something.
>using all the lessons he ever learned from his masters,
>Yeah just remember the mediocre shit I taught you 40 years ago instead of the actual UI training you received from Whis
>e-explain the things I don't like.
My brain is too big for you, shitposter.
>this took nearly 5 minutes to write
Get a life.
>And it means he can kill 1k powerlevel shitters in an attosecond without their brains even processing what happened while also being invincible defensively, spicohackotaco retard.
Unless it's an army of them, and he has to deal with Freeza as well.
>Not the point, stop deflecting, spicohackotaco retard. He was up against an SSG/SSB tier opponent and didn't get instantly mogged. Anyone such as Namek Frieza would.
Because he surprised him, and again, he did no actual damage.
>H-H-HE ONLY DISPLAYED ABSOLUTE SUPERIORITY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. Cope,spicohackotaco retard.
Dodging and parrying isn't "absolute superiority". That's fucking retarded. If he actually injured Goku, you might be onto something. The thing is, he didn't.
>Nice headcanon, spicohackotaco retard. Conveniently forgot about the part where he took out multiple of Moro's followers with his overpowered laser gun, eh?
The laser gun that stuns and doesn't run on ki, whereas Goku and Vegeta do run on ki.
>powerlevel
Oh, it's one of you faggots.
Fair point.
>Oh wait, I forgot Puar is a girl
Yes, Puar is a female feline.
>Learn english before shitpost again
HAHAHA
There's no way this isn't done on purpose. I refuse to believe there's someone THIS retarded.
Okay but can you guys explain this "Toyotaro made this arc" meme? He confirmed Toriyama is still working on Super (first pic related, then here db-z.com
So, we will finally see a battle on Earth? because those three bandits will surely be fucked against Gohan, Piccolo and the rest so they will call Moro.
why?
>>this took nearly 5 minutes to write
>Get a life.
>Literally conceding
Wew lad, that was easy.
>why making Jiren a /reddit9k/ user instead of a hero was a good idea
For female Jirenfags.
Don't be silly user, this totally fishy guy hides nothing, Toriyama and Toyotaro unironically made a random guy that just has UI because
Trust me, my uncle is John Shueisha
You conceded to me 4 posts earlier.
Your non-arguments deserve little thought.
>all his 5 contributions are artistic fixes
Keep crying, little shit. Tori was more involved with GT than with this garbage.
That's it buddy, you fucking lost. Next time think before replying.
Get a job.
>"Since it is our custom to prefer the cooler places of the snowy mountains in the heat of summer, we decided to return for a while to the mountains of Greater Armenia, especially as the greater part of the food and fodder had been consumed after the devastation of Aleppo and Damacsus. However, we left a few of our men behind to destroy any Assassin strongholds that were still standing. They lay in hiding because they were so few in number and the BABYLONIAN DOG mice came out of their caves and attacked them. Some, who disobeyed our orders, invaded French possessions and, receiving their deserts, were bitten by the aforementioned mice. Although revenge on these recreants would please us somewhat, and they have not caused any real harm, it is nevertheless our intention shortly to complete our plan against the said infidel Babylonians of the CANINE RACE exactly as we did against the other rebels."
> “An Unknown Letter of Hulagu, Il-khan of Persia, to King Louis IX of France,” Viator 11 (1980): 258; 249.
Were the Mongols the original dogposters?
>UI user who can handle SSG/SSB tier opponents would lose to weak fodder because A-A-ARMY
HAHAHA the absolute fucking mental gymnastics from this spicohackotaco retard. You have literally no evidence to support this headcanon, which is literally "M-MUH ARMY (of low powerlevel Raditz-tier shitters) CAN TAKE DOWN UI CHAD". You pathetic spicohackotaco retard.
>muh surprises
Again with the damage control. He only caught him off-guard at the very start, then the stood face-to-face and Moro knew he was fighting him, and he STILL got a hit in. You dumb fucking spicohackotaco retard.
>Dodging and parrying isn't "absolute superiority"
Yes it is, spicohackotaco retard. And we already know his laser gun can take out Shitku.
>The laser gun that stuns
Oh so the spicohackotaco retard doesn't even read his own tracefiction. Not surprising.
Friendly reminder that there is not a single "Toriyama's Corrections" for this arc. Not a single one. Pic related is the last one they showed.
Better luck next time. Although you're gonna need more than luck to successfully defend that train wreck of an arc. Especially against the incredibly aware minds of the Toeithirdeyes.
>Okay but can you guys explain this "Toyotaro made this arc" meme?
Shueisha/Toei shill the fuck out of Toriyama's involvement whenever he does anything. The fact that this is the ONLY Super arc that has not been confirmed as written by Toriyama is telling.
Get a job.
Based.
Champa Champa
Merus having UI is literal headcanon
Holy shit this one is really a Hackotaro ORIGINAL arc. With ZERO (0 (zero)) Toriyama's involvement. Hell Tori probably doesn't even know/care this arc is being made. It's even less canon than the movie Evolution holy shit. At least Tori acknowledged it existed.
This holy shit. It's also confirmed that Toriyama didn't even write the script for this shit arc.
I think special powers should all be of the same level and the only difference is for stamina, where some have a lot more energy reserve than others.
the fighting powers would make more sense in every dragon ball, nor is it just a DBS problem, we saw a lot of bizarre things like that in DBZ.
Of course Toriyama is not involved, you think Toriyama would ever write a cringeworthy pretty boy Gary Stu like Merus (Toyotaco's self-insert) ?
you're not going to get too many serious answers
people are just going to shitpost about tacos and pedros
>mediocre shit
He had some of the best masters the universe could provide and they were very skilled, Roshi could even imitate UI to an extent.
Imagine unironically defending "O MY SPIRIT BOMB" over actual character development
>>all his 5 contributions are artistic fixes
Source? Your ass? Thank you but I think I'll pass
Irrelevant, since Toyotaro already confirmed not even a month ago Toriyama still corrects it, that means no correction was interesting enough or Toriyama didn't draw the corrections himself, not that he's not doing it.
>inb4 TOYOTARO IS LYING
I'm sorry I don't give a shit about your damage control.
So literally nothing but your headcanon which also ignores the fact Toyotaro already confirmed Toriyama's involvement?
Thank you guys I think I finally found the origin of the meme: your stupidity and butthurt over Toriyama and Toyotaro working together in Super while Toei works in Super Dragon Ball Spicroes.
Lets compare Vegito’s fights to Gogeta’s.
Vegito vs. Buu
>Only baited Buu to absorb him so he can save his children and Piccolo.
>Probably would have killed Buu if he knew he had a time limit.
>Shortcoming: Didn’t know he only had an hour.
Vegito vs Zamasu
>Fought opponent with near equal strength and regeneration.
>Went into SSB right away.
>Stabbed Zamasu in the fucking heart.
>Sublimated his face. I can’t even boil water without a stove.
>Shortcoming: Didn’t know his fusion could be shortened.
Gogeta vs Broly
>Fought a mindless hulk that he dominated in strength.
>Waited for Broly to get stronger before going Blue.
>Couldn’t kill or even scar Broly with multiple attacks worthy of a Level 3 Super. >Could’ve teleported to Broly after his kamehameha didn’t hit.
>Acted like he wasn’t about to kill him seconds later.
>Shortcoming: Dende Level Dragon
The only reason Toriyama made Gogeta canon was because fusion dance Vegito would have skinned Broly alive.
Oh great new chapter causes the Toei Toya shitflinging to commence, just great.
holy shit you're based
You guys should know the manga (or at least the earlier chapters) aren’t canon by now.
>el primo de Whis.png
>Roshi training was more effective for UI that Whis'
Owari motherfucking da.
And lest we forget, Goku pretty much confirmed that the Merus that could handle SSB-tier Moro wasn't even fighting seriously.
>H-HE CAN'T DO SHIT TO FRIEZA CUZ ARMY
The absolute state of spicohackotaro damage control
I said it in the post, because they're both shit
this guy asking the real questions
Super and GT before it never should have happened. Dead horse is fossil now.
>Source? Your ass? Thank you but I think I'll pass
Burden of proof, mong. It's common knowledge that all the evidence of his contributions are art fixes with the only exception of Belmond Macarita.
>Mount Paozu
>Toei Filler
We already know user.
This. Toriyama lost his spark decades ago and Toyotaro never even had a spark to begin with. No one can be entrusted to write good DB anymore.
maybe Merus is the reason why both the Galactic King and Jaco were aware of Hit's ability
I can
>So literally nothing but your headcanon which also ignores the fact Toyotaro already confirmed Toriyama's involvement?
Notice how Toyotaro never said Toriyama actually WROTE it, unlike literally every other Super arc.
Fuck off, Mark.
This looks so shitty
Unironically worse than Multiverse
I don't give a fuck who it was, Toryiama is a hack too nowadays, he hasn't written anything half decent since Freeza-saga decades ago. Tory or Toyo, doesn't matter, both are shit.
Why can't Dragon Ball get decent writers? I'm not asking for good ones, just average ones. The average seasonal anime has way better writing than DB.
It's not Merus. It's the constant continuity callbacks to stuff Akira "what's a SS2 and who's Tao Paipai" would never, ever remember, nor reference even if he did remember. These are all marks of a fanfiction, something that a super-fan like Toyotaro would write but which Toriyama would never touch. They're baked into the plot of the arc.
>the story remembers exactly how long ago the Kaioshins fought Buu, how many there were, and what they looked like
>Buu remembers absorbing Dai Kaioshin
>Vegeta remembers butchering the Namekian village and is trying to atone
>the story remembers that all Namekians can fuse
>Vegeta remembers that he said the Yardratians have crazy techniques
>the story remembers exactly which grunt Zarbon kicked and reuses him for Cranberry
>the story remembers what Pui Pui's planet was called, and everyone on it dresses exactly like Pui Pui
I can understand that. I bet his magic attacks will be nice to see animated, but he does feel kind of like a retread of Frieza personality-wise. Just less interesting.
Hackopaco tracerpaco talentlessmacaco noncanontaco.
Goku's house is comfy
ToP arc had god-awful art because Hackotaro rushed it. The way he drew Jiren was so fucking shitty and incorrect that Toriyama himself had to redraw it.
That’s the best thing Toyo has contributed.
Pan gives birth to baby? Was myu the father?
I'm glad people are finally starting to realise what I knew since day 1: the manga is fucking gutter trash. Anyone who ever liked this piece of shit is a braindead retard.
Enter Hearts
>Vegeta remembers butchering the Namekian village and is trying to atone
To be fair that was pretty cool
Everytime someone says the manga is shit they nescessarily imply the anime is good, which just outs them as retards themselves.
fuck that got me
Moro is giving him some power
>Goten and Trunks were irreverent.
They had Gotenks as a major character that got SS3.
have sex
why does manga gocuck have to train with merus to attempt UI again when all it took for him during ToP was a stupid pep talk from roshi
Gotenks is not Goten or Trunks. He's a third character. He could've gone Super in spite of Goten and Trunks themselves no problem. He is more relevant than the two were separately, no one's gona argue against that.
I hate the anime too, I used to be a Toyofag but I can no longer tolerate his shit writing and art. It's been a downward spiral ever since Zamasu arc.
Merus burning Moro's eyes and then retreating is no different than Yajirobe cutting off Vegeta's tail. I don't know how you figure Merus could beat Moro in a fight and is trying really hard to capture him, but just decided not to for no reason.
Why are we still here
Just to suffer
Nice strawman, you mong. Super is shit as a whole, but you faggots who keep telling yourselves that the manga is good are just outright delusional spastics.
>I said it in the post, because they're both shit
Then what is not "shit"?
Some of it's good, like the characters finally addressing the fact that Buu has another being still inside him and that his current form is basically the Dai Kaioshin with amnesia and run through a bubble gum filter. But some of it's just member berry tier bullshit that only a fanfic writer would reference, and makes the story feel inorganic.
Merus also has the power of trash talk that he will use during the training.
Yeah but if they weren’t established as super saiyans Gotenks SS3 would be more retarded than Caulifla’s shit.
>Goku's house is comfy
This.
This, but unironically. These threads are terrible.
I don't tell myself the manga is good I think Toyo fucking sucks.
Idk the original DB manga and lot of the original anime's take on it. Some movies. Most of Shakespeare's plays. Water.
Not what happened, spicohackotacotarotard. Merus kicked Moro's face in a fair battle through legitimate outskilling. It wasn't a "surprise attack" like you keep trying to claim (lie). Moro was aware of Merus and they were fighting for a while before the kick happened.
Also, Merus didn't "retreat", Buu grabbed him and teleported him away.
>>the story remembers exactly how long ago the Kaioshins fought Buu, how many there were, and what they looked like
>>Vegeta remembers butchering the Namekian village and is trying to atone
That's fine. Everything else is a bit much, aside from
>>the story remembers that all Namekians can fuse
this, which was literally used in the last major arc for the two Namekians.
The scans look like ass and that user posted his image from a phone.
>I don't tell myself the manga is good I think Toyo fucking sucks.
OK, glad we agree.
>Whis taught Goku the basics of UI
>the battles with Beerus, RoF Frieza, Zamasu, Hit, SSB Vegeta during training, and now Jiren made Goku drift from what he was taught because those fights were ultimately decided through powerlevels and sheer force, not true mastery of martial arts
>Roshi helped lead Goku back to the right path by performing the autododge technique himself, reminding Goku of his past masters and cultivating the seeds Whis had planted, ultimately giving birth to UI Goku
has more thought put into it than anything from the Toei anime
ENTER YAMCHAD
Thought about doing a rewrite as fanfic for my own sake, I just have to get free time to do so. Guy needs to eat.
Both of your ideas would probably be worse than Multiverse and every AF story.
DBO's timeline > EVERY continuation
Made a comic to explain it better.
when will Tenshinhan and Yamaha learn this dodging hax techniques?
Phoneposter. Consider yourself discarded.
Not setting the bar very high, are ya?
>Tacotaro pushing off Yardrat again because he can't decide whether to use DBO's designs or Toei's
Fuck this worthless filler chapter
DBO timeline is quite literally better than every post-DB continuation.
DBO's timeline >>>> POWER GAP>>>> Super (manga) > GT > Super (anime)
Jimeze was already wearing yardrat clothing so it would be a plot hole if he went with the DBO designs.
>Both of your ideas would probably be worse than Multiverse and every AF story
Nah, I genuinely believe most people who don't have Downs Syndrome are capable of writing better stories than Toyotaro. If you picked someone from this thread at random to write DB for Shueisha, I'd put good money on it being worlds better than anything Toyo can come up with.
I trust Mark to rewrite DB
He rewrote the whole Buu saga with Chadhan as protagonist!
i wish there was a DBO manga
>He rewrote the whole Buu saga with Chadhan as protagonist!
So he made it worse than it already was?
Holy Based
Didn't mean DB, was talking about the multiverse shit.
1. I didn't say they didn't fight, so that's nice reading comprehension on your part.
2. How is throwing a rock at Moro and then burning his eyes while he's breaking through it not a surprise attack? He literally was attacking from a blind spot.
3. The entire "fight" is Moro dodging most of those attacks. The one time Merus manages to latch something onto him, the first move of the fight, Moro is momentarily caught off balance and then immediately chucks him.
4. "Merus didn't retreat" is basically semantics. Even if he himself didn't run away, he set up conditions to where the fight didn't have to continue with him as the main combatant.
5. You still haven't addressed my question of why he wouldn't defeat Moro himself if he purportedly has the power to.
Now please, embarrass yourself by continuing to post nonsensical taco paco gibberish and making ad hominem arguments.
Yes
I can generalize what every poster in these threads would do.
>Jirenfags, Brolyfags, all Saiyajinfags
CHADly/CHADren/CHADhan/etc. is the protagonist and he one shots El Grande Padre after drink the Super Divine Water of the Angels and then fucks Vados while Champa watches
>18fag
An awful SoL series about the dullest character in the series, Kulilin and Marron.
>Humanfags
More Reincarnated as Yamucha type stories. Would unironically be the best outcome.
>everyone else
Edgeshit, and not even the fun kind like Piccolo's Choice or half the DBM universes, the kind like the old, now deleted fanfic, River of Fate, where it's 15 chapters of absolutely nothing, totaling in at 500K words where Freeza has amnesia and thinks his name is Goku, Coola and Cold have boring political shit, Gero enhances all the human fighters while going through his secret plan to takeover the world, and it's Saiyajins vs Humans with King Furry or whatever being a major antagonist.
The fact that all his fans lapped it up is astounding.
Pretty sure you can still play the game if you want. There was a server resurrection project.
Literally every scenario you envisioned is unironically better than anything Toyotaro has ever written.
Quite based. Quite based indeed.
Lol I'd do that edgeshit
>Whis taught Goku the basics of UI
Headcanon already.
The edgeshit fanfic I listed was written by a Mexican and posted in broken English.
You think that it is good proves the spics have infiltrated these threads.
>You think that it is good
Never said that. You don't have to be good to be better than Toyotaro. He's literally the bottom of the barrel.
I'm not saying that it's good I'm just saying that's exactly what I'd end up doing if hired.
These threads would be a lot more fun too don't deny it.
This would be good for a third sequel series after 2uper.
What? The arc is awesome wtf are you talking about?
Nah, that's the Super anime.
Toyo at least tries and his extra chapters are at least fun.
fanfiction.net
These are you choices for the new DB anime.
>I didn't say they didn't fight
Yes you fucking did, nice attempt trying to damage control your blatant retardation though, little damage controlling tacocuck. You called it "no different than Yajirobe cutting off Vegeta's tail", which WAS a situation of an ACTUAL surprise attack where they didn't fight before. This is not what happened in Merus' case as I already proved. Pathetic damage controlling taco.
>How is [things that aren't a surprise attack] not a surprise attack?
Because they do not fit the definition of a surprise attack, which is an attack without warning. Moro was warned because he was fully aware of fighting Merus. Therefore it's not a surprise attack. This isn't hard to comprehend, unless of course you're a little tacospico fag trying to damage control with mental gymnastics.
The rest of your "points" is one gigantic strawman because I never ever claimed Merus could beat Moro in a fight. Cope, pathetic damage controlling spicohacktracetacodamagecontroltaro faggot.
>muh ad hominem
The irony when I'm absolutely fucking destroying you in every post and you're sweating trying to come up with damage control.
The only awesome arc here is the arc my bent cock makes when erect
>Toyo at least tries
That's extremely sad then if he puts effort into coming up with nothing but garbage.
If at this point you guys didnt understand that there is something fishy with moro then you are absolute braindead people.
BOTH vegeta and goku tells you that something is wrong with the guy, but you still complain "why is he so shrtonnnggg rehhhh"....
DB fans are fucking retarded
I'd make CHADREN the MC and expand on his backstory that's full of potential
>In an AU full of angst
This is gonna be good
>Gohan has never given up hope of finding a cure to his condition. He's a vampire-
Holy shit thanks for this.
I honestly don't care about this patrol guy dodging Goku, but goddamn does it look bad.
God, Tacotaro fags wll never recover from this chapter
Literally worse than Goku hakai
This argument is retarded, why didnt goku use UI to kill freezer? Exactly moron he didnt have it. Characters and people evolve back in those days meerus certainly wasnt even recruited yet
Also it doesnt ring a bell in your tiny head that despite being strong as fuck ( goku even admit it) the guy doesnt fight?!
Merus probably knows Hakai too, and toyoshits would still defend it.
>In an AU full of angst, Gohan has never given up hope of finding a cure to his condition. He's a vampire with intact morals, unlike others. Join him in frying evil vamps with ki blasts and draining evil mortals who deserve to be punished alongside his friend, Sharpner. He's judge, jury and executioner, until he meets a female vamp hunter with special abilities and a secret. (G/V)
>OLD VERSION DON'T READ
>It's "What if Gohan got Kidnapped by Raditz and Worked for Freeza"
>the guy has written like 12 of these
>Sequel to My One True Hell. GohanxCell. REWRITTEN AS OF 14 Aug 2014. As Hell is unleashed on Earth, Jeice must finally choose a side. Gohan continues to betray his friends as he falls deeper into his depression - and things only get worse as Cell decides to isolate him from everything he knows.
>Gohan struggles with his new powers. How does Gohan make his own legacy and what challenges does it bring? Will he become his own hero, or will he give in to the darkness within? Part 1 of 4 in the Gohan's Legacy series.
>The story begins after the battle on Namek while Goku's location is unknown. Piccolo, the not so incoruptable evil, is put to the test. A test of indurance, loyalty and even friendship. But what happens to the growing Zsenshi in the process?
>Completed! Will be continued in Part 2 Nightmare's End AU after Cell Games, Chi Chi dies horrifically, Gohan and Goten are separated. Gohan is raised in an abusive home until he contracts Leukemia. Contains explicit rape and abuse scenes R&R!
>Gohan and Mirai Trunks get kidnapped as children and when their parents, Goku and Vegeta find out there is hell to pay. Set on planet Vegetasei Warning implications of rape. AU OOC Shounen ai
Which one is our new DB manga/anime bros?
Why is it always ESLs who defend the manga to the death?
>freezer
Instantly discarded.
>Gohan is raised in an abusive home until he contracts Leukemia. Contains explicit rape and abuse scenes R&R!
I'm sorry, what the fuck?
when is the anime returning guys
Their sub-80 IQ, stemming from pure taco diets, is the culprit.
I want the Gohan X Cell one mixed with the one about the vampires
Julky 2019
Yes if meerus being an angel is a revelation, the best idea is to give it away by making his name the same pun as every other angel.
Can the chinese invent brain transplantation already?
Ah yes Julky my favorite month of the Kyear
More human Isekais wouldn't be a bad idea, but I would prefer side stories. Like for example, during the ToP someone tries to attack the city but Yamcha saves the day, or Krillin and Tien try to train even harder (maybe even with Whis and Beerus) because they weren't satisfied with their performance at the ToP.
It's filler, yes, but it's something, and you could possibly re-insert the humans back in the main story with these things.
Gohan is about to fall and bring Cell with him.
>BUH-BUT HE'S CLEARLY AN ENIGMATIC CHARACTER AND BEING BUILT UP SO ITS OKAY!!
>Planet Vegetasei
Why do they do this?
I'm tracing your IP right now.
I saw I typed it wrong but it was funny enough I kept it.
based gokubro
Why
>krillin and tien
>ever training after the ToP
That story was written in 2003 apparently. It's why Mirai Trunks was also used.
>Tien
>not training
It's literally all he does.
Because I'm Toyotaro so I trace everything.
>with a bunch of monks
He's never going to improve.
>Old Version Don't Read is the title of the fic
YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO
I won again you little shits.
That's why I'm suggesting that he could train even harder, with actual fucking strong people, not with a bunch of literal whos.
Holy FUCK I'm so stupid at this
I can school you in the ways of the CHAD.
>Holy FUCK I'm so stupid at this
Holy Based
K. Fujicka chads strike again.
What the fuck is happening here
Never ever. He'll be stuck teaching monks while Krillin continues his job as a cop that will job to bullets.
Hello again, faggots.
Daily reminder that 80% of DBS isn't Canon.
Toyotaro laughs at these threads, and if DBS is your favorite Dragonball series, you're a retard.
NOOOO KAKAROTTO DASUKETTTEEEEEEEEE
I know that's literally never gonna happen, just merely discusing what I would do with the story if I was in charge, basically what this user ( ) asked/said.
Psychku wouldn't admit that. If he ever loses something he'd just go WAKUWAKU, DONT KILL THAT VILLAIN I GOTTA BEAT HIM NEXT TIME.
BASED Toeichad
Gross.
youtube.com
>Doesn’t like chad characterization.
Discarded.
Post your favorite character and youre IQ
>Broly
>63
Cope.
Freeza
125
That’s the famous internet number for genderbends lol.
>Goku
>20
>Yamcha, Tien and Krillin
>197
>he didn't drop the baby
Not based.
kek based
>Jiren
>1
>Cumber
>460
>Piccolo's Choice
I am still mad that it has been on that cliffhanger for FOUR FUCKING YEARS and Gohan is just now starting to regret his actions towards Goku.
Jesus Christ, this is worse than Miura cucking me.
youtube.com
Scene is still based even in English.
Jiren. 105 when I was 12 on an online long ass test. I must be around 155 now.
What do you like about him?
> Jiren
> Crayons
Well, he's a handsome, intelligent character. His motives remain unclear to most so far but I suspect that is because they're too complex for your average Dragon Ball viewer.
>dub
Yikes
>full of Jirenchads
LEGION
That is not how IQ works and yours is probably 90 something
Post you favorite scenes in the franchise.
bruh frieza was like 20 years ago in universe. Merus not have even been alive
Freeza
119
>Vegeta
>300
>Still Based
Just be glad they didn’t fuck that episode up.
>That is not how IQ works
And what would you know, retard.
fatty fat
>Implying Jaco wants to fuck a minor.
EPISODE
TWO
SEVEN
NINE
youtube.com
Best animation in the series probably
>this, which was literally used in the last major arc for the two Namekians.
Fittingly, Toriyama had no part in creating those characters.
Broly
90 billion
Pic related is me
youtube.com
So much SOUL.
>the person who wrote the second to last one has been a mother since 2012
What have you done with your life /dbs/?
Buu
146 (99.9th percentile) when I took the Raven Matrices as a kid (which got me into the GATE Seminar program). No idea if that's still accurate, but I did earn a degree in a subject whose majors average 129 IQ per Educational Testing Services, and I got it from a good school (not Ivy League tier or anything, but in the top five percent of the country and around the same globally), with an above-average GPA, with harder than average electives, while also getting an unrelated degree in something else, so I feel confident that I'm still above 130, at least.
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This is some peak DBZ
>so that put a dapper on things
Huh?
Goku
123
soul
Frieza
123
I wish I wasn't so smart.
>I wish I wasn't so smart.
Who are you even replying to, user?
can't remember the name of the artist who drew this scene but i love the way they draw
I know that feel. I'm literally the smartest person in these threads. It's lonely sometimes being so unmatched.
Reminder that this CHAD won the whole series.
samefag
It’s a burden all K. Fujicka chads must face.
Kek and basedpilled.
>Reminder that this CHAD won the whole series.
How?
So many mentally disabled people here.
I partly understand why normalfags think anime is unhealthy.
It's not unhealthy per se, but it automatically attracts all the retards like moths are attracted to light.
>Per se
Lmao
Agreed. The Toei anime was a mistake, the manga does not attract such degeneracy.
Based CHADllin 3-0'd Cringeta in the baseball game.
When did Roshi get UI?
Doesn't save it from being utter crap though.
Makes sense.
Well the manga doesn't attract anyone at all.
>whore
Nobody you stupid peasant.
It attracts high IQ people of all races who desire a continuation of the Dragonball series with good writing and stays true to the characters
Fuck I mean based Mary.
Too bad that's not what they found, KEK.
Also that's false. It's known that the vast majority if not the entirety of Toyoshits are ESL tacos comprised of either Gohancucks or Lizardshits. Their ranks haven thinned today with this garbage chapter, also.
>Anime Mistake
See
B A S E D
Have sex.
I would rather have Salagir than Toyotaro
DOUBLE BASED.
No one asked for your opnion
>Nobody you stupid peasant.
Please accept my apologies
I meant Piccolo.
Yep.
I'm not your fellow you fucking Shitrendonkey.
"something fishy" still doesn't make him acceptable.
>Toeishills bashing the best DBS arc just because it's from Toyotaro
You people are fucking pathetic. Holy fucking shit.
Don't use Goku for your disgusting shilling you piece of shit
This
>192215042
cringe fatty
>because it's from Toyotaro
More like because the anime is dead as their sex life so they keep screeching to cope with it
would the mafuba work against Moro?
Unless he can magic his way out I assume so.
Mafuba works against everything but it's just a jobber move, just like potara, SS3, and SSJ4
Seethe more, Paco. The manga is irredeemable trash.
>SS3
At least the others have a chance of winning.
i was going to put Blue in but based on its latest performance, it's pretty good, SSG is shit tho, so put it on the list
The best DBS Arc on both mediums (not counting the Movie retellings) is the Champa Arc anyway.
This chapter was horrendous, as usual. Once again, Toyotaro shows that he does not understand Dragon Ball at it's core. There was nothing enjoyable about this besides the gags, and those were clearly written by Toriyama. Moro continues to be boring, the art continues to be bad, the pacing gets worse and worse.
You are not a Dragon Ball fan if you enjoy this.
These threads were better when samefagging spics like you weren't here.
Why does everyone call the 18fag a spic? What did he do? Even toeishills hate him, and he praises the anime
They are genuinely one of the most autistic people in these threads. On the same level as that Jiren namefag a while back.
They constantly praise the anime, use dub names and filler logic and consistently show lack of actual knowledge on Dragon Ball, to the point where their dream DB series is an SoL solely about 18 and Kulilin, literally one of the most anti-Dragon Ball concepts you can think of.
They also do all of this unironically. There's a layer of shitposting irony on top of the most out there posts in regards to Broly and Jiren. It's some of the most intellectual shitposting on the board, greater than HxHfags baiting literally every group on Yea Forums with their mere existence. 18fag doesn't know what irony means.
How dare you use a kino Namek gif to defend this bastardization retelling of Namek.
Top tier GoD when he gets into shape.
they hate vegeta. can't get much more retarded than that.
this. based.
Flat earthers post.
Hey there/mlp/
>
If you think that Goku would've beaten Majin Buu(fat) with SSJ3, you should not be allowed to post in this thread.
Reminder that Super Buu is worst Buu. Fat and Kid are far superior.
I liked super buu earlier in his basic stage but then after the absorption he just became a pink cell. I still like his interpretation of him but I do agree it has already been done.
Time patrol is better
Literal fanfiction made for a children's arcade game
So it’s better like he said
>Jiren
>136
All Buus are better than Cell.
Dragon Ball Super is shit.
GT is shit too, but not as bad as Super.
Super is just as bad as Dragon Ball: Evolution.
These threads being /trash/ tier is just a reflection of that.
1. Merus is angel and doesn't want to be find out
2. Merus is angel, but doesn't remember that he is angel, he still avoids close combat instinctively
3. Merus is half angel, probably was born from drunk Whis nutting in some alien slut and forgetting about it
4. Merus is just some random dude unrelated to angels, his dodging is just senile Toriyama's bad writing
Which one is correct?
It's these kind of threads and fans that kind of leave a bad taste on the franchise
I'm betting he's a core person like shin
Eyes, skin, and we don't know what kind of ears he has.
All this "peaceful" Saiyan shit needs to die a hard death. To hell with all these noodle people.
with his skin color it's like Jiren impregnated Marcarita
Shame we didn't get a red-haired saiyan cutie in U6.
5. Merus is just some random dude unrelated to angels, his dodging is just dodging; with this shit logic, Roshi might as well be part-angel too
If DB is terrible for romance, what's with all the womanbait couplings?
Vegeta x Bulma
Trunks x Mai
Bardock x Gine
Broly x Cheelai
How's DBM? Did Super kill it?
Vegeta x Bulma is an objectively awful romance story that hinges entirely on character assassination.
Trunks x Mai sorta works, but falls apart when you realize Mai is like 40 years older than Trunks.
Gine is a non-character.
Broly x Cheelai works.
Caulifla went SS offscreen in the canon manga, she's also a prodigy, powerful as fuck in comparison to U7 saiyans of the same age. She also went SS in a time where the transformation was already trivialized.
Kid Trunks and Kid Goten going SS without formal training by just sparring with each other was much more offensive to the legacy of the transformation.
Forced pairing even to this day
Even more forced pedophile pairing
Who?
Parenting is nice
DBM is still going, but it's still shit.
Some of the minicomics are sorta fun though.
>Broly x Cheelai works.
Broly is Vegeta’s age. I don’t think Cheelai’s that old.
That’s just number 4.
See
Reminder Saitama is fodder.
Is there fan art of U6 saiyans but they look like this? You know instead of noodles.
She's an alien
Zarbon was full grown when vegeta was born, didn't look any different when he was killed
Fucking based.
Where the hell is freeza in this arc? Is Moro avoiding eating the planets that have been conquered by the empire? It's only a matter of time before those convicts slip up
No because it created them
Then Trunks and Mai is fine since they’re the same physical age.
Soon
>Thug Kamikaze Fireballs
Sure
Trunks and Mai are fine because it's pretty obvious merely being turned into a kid affected her brain too
Also soon my fellow chad.
I just started watching DBZ (Kai) and finished the Planet Namek arc. I found this dude's theme in my youtube rec's and got super hype from it. I'm nowhere near where he appears but can somebody break Cell down to me without spoiling anything? based or cringe?
>Vegeta x Bulma
plot-device to make Trunks a saiyan, in DBZ Vegeta x Bulma had less chemistry than Yamcha x Bulma despite Bulma and Vegeta being much more compatible with each other. pretty much all the sweet Vegeta x Bulma moments are from the revival of the series (BoG/DBS)
>Trunks x Mai
actually decent, Kid Trunks x Kid Mai is creepy as fuck tho
>Bardock x Gine
we know too little about them, only that Gine turned Bardock into a softer person
>Broly x Cheelai
they're not officially a couple, but their scenes in DBS: Broly were good, it was a nice start
The galactic patrol are too scared to deal with someone like Freeza. Since King Cold answered to Beerus, the Galactic King thought it was best they stayed out of the way of the empire.
He has varying levels of being based/cringe as the story goes on.
Meant for
Hmmm...
When?
Super should have never happened
But then we wouldn’t have el hermano
>forgetting when he became the legendary Super Satan
>Super Ended
>Causes El Hermano
What
If Super Satan is Beerus tier how strong would Ultra (Instinct) Satan be?
>no running water
I'll pass
I wonder if Beerus’ castle tree has running water.
>has more thought put into it than anything from the Toei anime
>hey remember your roots
>oh i have UI now
>oh I can't activate it at will anymore
>more """thought"""
>Goku had to rely on instinct to master the form.
>Had hidden potential that he can unlock when resisting against great energy.
>Needed to face greater energies to do it again each time.
I see plenty of thought.
>Vegeta and Nappa destroy a planet in the beginning of DBZ
>Vegeta and Nappa both breathe in space
>Goku fights Beerus in space
Yet Toyotaro's fanfic says they can't breathe in space? Can he get even the most basic details right?
saiyans can't even breathe underwater
>Vegeta and Nappa is filler.
Frieza said saiyans can’t breathe in space. Vegeta died in RoF because he needed an atmosphere to breathe.
>18fag uses filler as evidence
Mindbroken
Why do you always post 18 when against the manga.
>filler
I'm starting to miss the Vegetafag.
Fucking hell. You ate his soul you satanic bitches.
He is a Jirenfag, Vegetafag and 18fag at the same time, i mean nobody is THAT stupid right? certainly not in this thread
Piccolo
666
>Gogeta
>42
having a fucking space cop being able to incapacitate goku and vegeta was fucking retarded
toyo is a hack
there are plenty of better artists out there that could've done dragon ball super better than that faggot
It’s just that easy to take down Kekly huh?
Post based Dragon Garrow Lee.
I feel like Merus would've made a great team member in the ToP.
i thought angels cannot participate in ToP?
Based
>meerus certainly wasnt even recruited yet
Pure headcanon
>the guy doesnt fight
Meerus doesn't fight? How has he been catching baddies if he doesn't fight, smartass?
Would Buu have been able to enter if he didn’t hibernate?
No, he's a kai, he'd get deleted in paper at least, but i'm sure Grand Kai can do pull something to appease Zenos
god I can't stand 3DPD at this point
>18fag is retarded.
Just makes it easy to shit on him. And oh so enjoyable.
6. Meerus is an android
7. Meerus killed Jiren’s parents and is just pretending to be a retarded patroller.
made by Gero after incorporating EGP cells in hell and then he made another Merus and fused both Merus into Super Merus?
It's an extremely poor man's King Piccolo, so no.
But there's no bootleg 17 in King Piccolo?
>Both a pawn of Janemba.
Add some other universes and this is shaping into a good arc.
i was actually shitting on Toyopaco as he is a GTfag but okay
I even drew it.
Bump
100 Posters Hype
OHNONONONONONONONONNONONONONONONONONONONO I THOUGHT WE ARE CHADS
Chads gotta do what chads gotta do.
I remember some retard debated me that a saiyan wouldn’t need a brain or heart to continue fighting.
The universe is huge. Freeza WILL get wind of what's going on and then turn that goat into curry.
you stupid fucking retard
Golden Frieza would only get Moro with death beam smipe. Still pretty based though.
that's not even piercing their heart and brain, are you blind?
He just keeps getting slammed with facts and knowledge.
Yeah but a beam to the chest isn’t as fatal to one to the heart or brain. He said to me organs were useless with ki.
Post fanfic shit.
I don't even know what the hell you're talking about
Can Broly beat Jiren?
Some retard was trying to debate me that organs weren’t vital to a saiyan. Special Beam Cannon pic obviously shows that’s false.
After some training.
>Bonyu reveal
A bit unexpected, but a good troll nonetheless. She’d better have an Aussie accent.
Why do we even talk about organs here? besides we have multiple times of organs being holed all the time
Was the Broly movie an example of good CGI in anime?
Is this about the "broly could keep fighting even if his heart is injured"? Cause that's not the same as "his brain was blown out"
A heart getting hit isn't instakill, it's guaranteed kill. Meaning you'll die for sure without immediate medical attention, but as far as dbz goes, ki power can keep you somewhat active until your brain dies due to lack of blood flow
No, that's merely "not bad" cgi.
He said Broly could survive this being done to him. Even if it was also done to the brain.
Could Chad Pixar make good anime CGI.
and?
That was the guy’s retarded argument I’m talking about.
>Special Beam Cannon
Go back
Goku survived, Vegeta survived, but Broly can't?
They survived an impaled brain?
why are you so fixated on brain? because you're a brainlet? Goku and Vegeta got themselves stabbed on the chest all the time against Black and they didn't die immediately but Broly has to? What are you? Jirenfag?
You mean to tell me the women of Jeice's planet look like THAT?
I’m just saiying some retard thought a non-regenerative saiyan could survive with no brain and heart.
>BRAINBRAINBRAIN
you're starting to sound like a zombie here,i don't know anything about these brain argument but you're sounding butthurt if you're here just to whine about it, but if you think Saiyans will immediately go to afterlife if you impale their heart then Goku and Vegeta should've died a long time ago
What's with you an brains. Are you a zombie?
Toriyama retconned a lot of shit
how come he never bothered to retcon Frieza being the strongest in the universe until Goku or U6 Saiyans not knowing what Super Saiyan is
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Why can’t you understand I’m just saying there is this retard on this site that told be Broly wouldn’t need a brain and that organs are useless. Not saying Broly is weak or Jiren is better. Just making fun of some loser that failed Biology.
I don't give a fuck about brains, if you want to eat them kill someone and open up their skull, zombie What do you know about Saiyan biology anyway?
What are you even arguing me about? Are you saying that guy had a 1000 IQ because he thought saiyans had some Frieza level survivability.
why are you even venting it on me? DB has its own share of brutality, people lost limbs, got their heads broken, and stabbed to holes all the time, most of them survived, some of them regenerated and some of them got revived if you're telling me a legendary saiyan should've died immediately from single blade you're fucking delusional
Fucking hell. I can’t even say a person wouldn’t be able to survive a destroyed brain without throwing around zombie insults for no fucking reason.
>P-PLEASE DON'T MOCK MY BRAIN FETISH...!
I want her to crush my head
So do you think a saiyan can survive without a brain. What saiyan character has suvived without a brain. I’m not even saying Broly is weak. I’m saying a retard thought he could survive without a brain. I’m focusing on the brain because this idiot actually believed Broly was immortal or some shit.
>Debating someone.
>Says Broly can survive without a brain.
>Call him a retard.
>Later say he’s a retard again.
>Someone tells me I have a fetish because I focused on some body part someone metioned in their insane claim.
then ask him not me, also if this is the last time i'm going to be clear with you, if you're going MUH BRAINS again then you're simply too much of a BRAINlet for us chads to talk to
Saiyans do die, but not immediately, they have their own survivability, look at the very first image i've sent Gohan survived this torture, even powered to SS before passing out, did he die immediately? no, next we have Goku getting Divine Lasso'd (inb4 Muh wiki name) by Black and those needles pierced his every torso and imploded, did he gone to the afterlife? Nope, just unconscious, and do note before that, Zamasu and Black trolled him with Chichi's death and he's being impaled mind you, but did he die? nope, he powered up with his anger and ignored those wounds, i don't know anything about brain shit, but if you're going to have Vegito eating and munching brain shishkebab and ask salagir to tone up his gore on his fanfiction
>WAAAAHHH WHY DIDN'T YOU GUYS PROTECT ME FROM BIG SCARY POOPOO GUY THAT I LOST AGAINST IN DEBATE?!?!
>Ad Hominems
>Chad
Pick one.
Retarded babbling. You seem to completely miss the point of what I’m saying. I’m saying he was retarded. So are you.
>POOPOO
>Out of left field.
Scatophilia Reveals true colors.
>A-AHAHAHA YOU SAID CHAD!! HAHAHA!
looks like i broke the Zombiegitofag
>W-WHAT?!? YOU DISAGREE WITH MY COPING HERE?!? WHY?!? WHERE DO I HAVE TO TELL SOMEONE THAT A GUY ON THE INTERNET JUST TOLD ME SOMETHING AND MOCKED ME FOR HAVING NO WAY TO DISPROVE IT?!?
you can cry to your parents instead to us you know, probably less embarrassing if you're below 10
>Zombie
Ad Hominem.
>NO WAY TO DISPROVE
So you actually beleive Broly can survive without a brain.
>Broken.
You’re need to to write HAHAHA and talk in all caps to think you made an argument. I think it’s the other way around.
>M-MUH A-AD HOMINEM
There's nothing to discuss here, your obsession about brains doesn't come from DB, there's no brain stabbing here, you're merely delusional
>So you actually beleive Broly can survive without a brain.
Why am i the guy you're venting at now?
>You’re need to to write HAHAHA and talk in all caps to think you made an argument. I think it’s the other way around.
And proving yourself to be a kid, wonderful, keep talking maybe me, your big papa sam can protect you from your big bully
>Ad Hominem means you like brain.
When will you see insults aren’t arguments.
>Venting
You literally said I couldn’t disprove his argument.
>Bully
You’re the one who thought your insults were breaking me. All you have made are arguments against claims I didn’t make and still think I’m the one venting.
>PLEASE DEBATE BRAINS WITH ME
I'm only here for hearts and hearts alone, keep bringing up brains is just asking for me to pummel you brains in
>You literally said I couldn’t disprove his argument.
if you could why are you here venting about it instead of living your life winning?
>You’re the one who thought your insults were breaking me. All you have made are arguments against claims I didn’t make and still think I’m the one venting.
I'm pretty sure i'm explaining about destroying an opponent heart isn't an insta kill, bt you yourself was triggered by the word 'chad'
>Hearts
Does that make you an aztec with a heart fetish?
>Winning
I just wanted to inform you you guys that some retarded didn’t understand how Dragon Ball and neurons work. You never think of a person aftter beating them.
>Heart
That’s fair.
>Chad
I was just saying you weren’t a chad when you were using ad hominems.
>Does that make you an aztec with a heart fetish?
No but definitely makes you a zombie aztec since you asked for both
>I just wanted to inform you you guys that some retarded didn’t understand how Dragon Ball and neurons work. You never think of a person aftter beating them.
Why do you ask us to praise you instead of your parents kid? are you an orphan? GOOD BOY, YOU ARE SO SMART, YOU DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF BRAIN AND HEART! there, happy? what are you? A primary school kid flexing Biology for the first time?
>I was just saying you weren’t a chad when you were using ad hominems.
who the fuck cares about how i shitpost?
Didn’t ask for praise I did it to humor you guys with someone’s pure idiocy. It was my bad for metioning the heart. Though didn’t Goku die from a heart virus in the future?
Superb bait.
>Didn’t ask for praise I did it to humor you guys with someone’s pure idiocy.
well too bad nobody cared about you making someone puke with your fetish
>It was my bad for metioning the heart. Though didn’t Goku die from a heart virus in the future?
And? was the heart virus made of ki? are you seriously comparing a ki to a virus now? i understood why you lost then
They get paid for it, right?
no, they got kidnapped, remember?
>Virus
Destruction of the heart is destruction of the heart.
His argument was also some headcanon.
so you're saying a death beam is a virus? good to know, why did gohan didn't die with a hole to heart i wonder?
>IESLB
Holy shit I'm not even participating in this "argument" and I won.
>Both ki and virus can destroy a heart.
>Death beam is a virus?
Pic for Gohan. Goku also died from the heart attack Hit gave him.
If a laser to the tummy kills him why wouldn’t the destruction of a heart.
>Goku also died from the heart attack Hit gave him
Oh you mean that filler episode where he destroyed his heart? he used his ki, just like what i've said
>If a laser to the tummy kills him why wouldn’t the destruction of a heart.
Because he definitely strong enough to tank a fully charged Special Beam Cannon back then, also let's ignore the fact that he was half-dead after being a bait by raditz so you could prove that destroying organs are overpowered, also why don't you say that he also had SSB during his time at OGDB huh?
>Filler
Hit used the same attack against Jiren.
>Ki Heart
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He jumpstarted it. Goku almost died from a heart attack. Would be dead from a destroyed heart.
>Couldn’t take Special Beam Cannon.
My argument was that he still died being hit in a less vital spot.
>Beaten by Raditz.
>Destroying organs are overpowered.
You know a body is made up of organs right? Without Hakai what else are you gonna destroy?
well they know how IQ works for starters
>Hit used the same attack against Jiren.
and did jiren die?
>He jumpstarted it. Goku almost died from a heart attack. Would be dead from a destroyed heart.
fair enough, but this is just like saying garlic junior second coming is canon
>My argument was that he still died being hit in a less vital spot.
and my argument is that piccolo charged and overwhelming stronger power level when he used the beam canon, you'd get pulverized whether it hits your stomach or your heart, but feel free to ignore the power level differences if it helps you
>You know a body is made up of organs right? Without Hakai what else are you gonna destroy?
and you know we have instances where they fought without said organs right?>Without Hakai what else are you gonna destroy?
I don't know? why did you even brought Hakai into this? is it a piercing ki blast?
future trunks had to train to his limits and then witness the death of his best friend and mentor, knowing well that it's his fault he died. i have no idea why they went ahead and let kid trunks go super for no reason other than i guess he trained commonly with his dad in the gravity ship thing and also saw his dad do the transformation i assume
wasn't Trunks already a Super Saiyan in the manga even before witnessing jobhan incident number 14235621?
>Jiren
Jiren was way stronger than Hit. His attack only works if he can actually effect the heart.
>Pulverized whether stomach of heart.
Would it kill you if it went straight though the hand?
>Organs
They can survive witnout some organs. The body is made up of organs so when killing someone you have destroyed their organs.
>Hakai
I’m saying that’s the only attack that attacks something besides the organ.
>Jiren was way stronger than Hit. His attack only works if he can actually effect the heart.
But i thought it's an organ twisting attack why didn't it at least knock jiren out?
>Would it kill you if it went straight though the hand?
Definitely, Goku's arm was on raditz shoulders and that is still close to himself, any more dumb question?
>They can survive witnout some organs. The body is made up of organs so when killing someone you have destroyed their organs.
Well FT Gohan's corpse was intact aside from losing his arm from the battle before, what's next to your organ fetish?
>I’m saying that’s the only attack that attacks something besides the organ.
and what does that has to do with our conversation?
>Twisting
It wasn’t strong enough to twist Jiren’s heart.
>Arm
I mean his hand. The fucking palm. You’re saying it doesn’t matter where Goki was impaled because the attack was stronger than Goku.
>Gohan
The arm isn’t a vital organ.
>Conversation Question
I’m saying an attack kills a person because it hits their organs.
>It wasn’t strong enough to twist Jiren’s heart.
i thought you said that targeting their organs should at least make them flinch?
>I mean his hand. The fucking palm. You’re saying it doesn’t matter where Goki was impaled because the attack was stronger than Goku.
Yes, look at this pic, his palm is directly at the shoulder/face, pierce that and it will hit Goku, he's still dead, any more stupid question or is it not dumb enough for you?
>The arm isn’t a vital organ.
Thanks for proving my point that Gohan died without his organs getting destroyed then
>I’m saying an attack kills a person because it hits their organs.
Frieza tanked Hakai when it engulfed his whole body, hence organs
>Flinch
When I say that?
>Face.
No I mean what if Piccolo shot through Goku’s hand. You’re saying it doesn’t matter where it hits because the attack is stronger than Goku.
>Organs
Some organs are vital and some are not.
>Tank
Frieza wasn’t harmed by the attack at all. Any character that tanks an attack stopped their opponent from destroying their organs.
>no counters to his magic
*AHEM* *AHEM*
>When I say that?
i apologize, i mean you said organs attack are supposed to be lethal, why didn't it at least flinch Jiren when it hit? is it useless?
>No I mean what if Piccolo shot through Goku’s hand. You’re saying it doesn’t matter where it hits because the attack is stronger than Goku.
yeah, it doesn't matter, the shock of the beam power will still spread therough your entire body if you have no ki to suppress it, do you think falling from a top of building with your leg down won't stop your heart? and here i thought you were a biology scientist?
>Some organs are vital and some are not.
and Gohan died without any organ damage
>Frieza wasn’t harmed by the attack at all. Any character that tanks an attack stopped their opponent from destroying their organs.
So you're implying Goku still had his organs intact after this?
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>Lethal
Jiren moved through Hit’s Time Cage. He dominated him at a level where there was nothing he could do.
>Spread through entire body.
So it was fatal to his organs.
>No Organ Damage
When the androids blasted him their attacks broke his body. The body is a collection of organs. That’s why it’s called an organism.
>Goku
Apparently
>Jiren moved through Hit’s Time Cage. He dominated him at a level where there was nothing he could do.
Then a organ destroy move isn't so overpowered now wasn't it?
>So it was fatal to his organs.
yeah if you charge it enough, did i say it wasn't dangerous?
>When the androids blasted him their attacks broke his body. The body is a collection of organs. That’s why it’s called an organism.
Then why isn't he naked? is silk stronger than organs?
>Apparently
Then Broly should've survived no problem, ez
>Video
Seems you ignored the video.
>Organ Destruction
Of course it’s fatal if the organ is destroyed. This was an argument about whether characters can take damage like that to the vital organs.
>Dangerous
Fatality to the organs is fatality.
>Silk
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Ki enhanced gi is apparently better than Ki enhanced tissue.
>Broly
Again this is about if he could survive without vital organs.
>Seems you ignored the video.
you mean a simple mouth blast? no worries i have better one, in the almost same spot and with better power scaling youtube.com
>Of course it’s fatal if the organ is destroyed. This was an argument about whether characters can take damage like that to the vital organs.
And wasn't Hit's technique supposed to be assassination technique? shouldn't it at least touch Jiren's organs?
>Fatality to the organs is fatality.
Not really, organs is not the only judge of you dying or not, i can cut all of your fingers which you deemed unimportant and you can still die from the pain shock instead of blood loss
>Ki enhanced gi is apparently better than Ki enhanced tissue.
Then why is Goku's gi holed here and he's still not dead?>Again this is about if he could survive without vital organs.
And Goku survived without vital organs due to sheer ki like
>Piccolo
He can survive as long as his head is find.
>Assassin
It touched them but failed to damage them.
>Pain Shock
Why does pain shock kill people in real life? It’s almost like it’s bad for the organs that make up 100% of their body.
>Not Dead.
>Vital Organs.
What vital organ got hit?
>He can survive as long as his head is find.
let's forget the fact he literally died in RoF
>It touched them but failed to damage them.
All this leads to the point that this is all useless
>Why does pain shock kill people in real life? It’s almost like it’s bad for the organs that make up 100% of their body.
Then why would you even ask about Special beam cannon killing Goku when it hits his hand few post earlier?
>What vital organ got hit?
He's clutching his ribs, hell, even a part of his heart are organs only deemed vital if it follows your agenda?
>RoF
Frieza shot him with a stronger attack then. I mean that would go through his body like the special beam cannon right? He must have failed to destroy Piccolo’s organ in Namek.
>Useless
Again I’m saying they can’t survive without organs not that any attack to an organ will work.
>Why
All attacks damage organs. Tell me what else are they attacking?
>Rib
Looks too low.
>pain CAN kill you
>but NOT because of the paint itself
>but because of CIRCULATORY SHOCK
>that is CAUSED by an acute level of PAIN
>pain doesn't kill you but yeah it actually does
lost
Pain causes circulatory shock.
Circulatory Shock killed brain.
Brain is an organ.
Then pain killed the organ.
>Frieza shot him with a stronger attack then. I mean that would go through his body like the special beam cannon right? He must have failed to destroy Piccolo’s organ in Namek.
>Muh organs
pray tell what organs does a slug have? also, you said he only needs his head, moving goalpost much?
>Again I’m saying they can’t survive without organs not that any attack to an organ will work.
Goku survived without organ
>All attacks damage organs. Tell me what else are they attacking?
so everything is a Vital organs to you now?
>Looks too low.
because it fits your agenda?
Gotta leave.
>Slug
It’s an organism.
>Organ
Ok. Skin is an organ. Everything is an organ. All damage is organ damage. Nothing else is being hit.
>It’s an organism.
what about his head headcanon?
>Ok. Skin is an organ. Everything is an organ. All damage is organ damage. Nothing else is being hit.
Is this organ fetish?