>try watching pic related anime >it’s terrible, cool concept >play the VN, first action VN >fucking amazing >try playing others >grisaia >muv-luv >demonbane >majikoi >tsuki,fate,mahoyo >watch anime adaptations that exist of them >even worse
It is impossible to properly adapt an action visual novel. The world building will be disregarded, characters personality will be altered to fit his actions, original scenes to fit in plot of other routes
Only option is to go out of your way with budget and wow people so much that they don’t care for the plot anymore and don’t know what’s going on. The moment and feel the scenes give are changed since you don’t have time to explain important things.
I'm glad you realized the truth. And I'm glad you didn't dismiss Dies just because of the shitty anime
Xavier Garcia
Maybe they are all actually garbage
Wyatt Wilson
The only truly good anime adaptation of a VN is S;G, everything else is shit.
Adam Cook
Or maybe a medium where everything is described is very hard to adapt right. Especially when your MC is characterized through stuff like the way he narrates and his monologues. It's like LN adaptations, but worse because you also gotta deal with lots of VNs making each route essential and the story only being complete with all routes. Which would mean making multiple shows, or trying (and failing) to mix up all routes
Joseph Gonzalez
Props for good taste from OP for once No that's trash too, haven't read the VN but the anime is garbo.
Sebastian Anderson
>No that's trash too, haven't read the VN but the anime is garbo. To be fair, user said a good anime adaptation, not a good story adapted, and as far as adaptations go, it really is as accurate as it gets compared to the original main route.
Andrew Hill
Any chance of Phanteon still happening? Preferably as VN rather than mobage. Last I heard, Masada and co still wanted to do it even after Light died.
Underwater Ray Ramano is the only good VN adaptation.
Blake Peterson
They forgot tomoyo after but Clannad anime is still really nice Steins:Gate is perfect as a bonus if you've already read the vn but kinda weak alone Chaos;Head is a must watch for any anime viewer existing. It's important.
The rest don't exist
Jaxson Thompson
The only good thing to come out of the Dies anime was the guillotine scene in the first dream sequence, I chose to forget the rest.
Blake Watson
Is the vn for dies irae good?? I was reading fate/ stay night and kinda got burned out, is this worth a shot?
Jayden Lee
If you got burned out by FSN you won't even make it to the good parts of DI.
Joshua Wright
I got burned out because once I finished the first route, I started Ubw immediately after, I won't make the same mistake with dies irae if I decide to read it. Gotta say, it looks fucking cool tho
Christian Davis
It's a great VN if you like over-the-top chuunishit. It starts off pretty slow and the first route is generally agreed to be the worst one but it picks up after that. All the routes build up on each other so it's best to play them in order.
Masada seems to have something going on related to Muzan, but I won't get my hopes up until there's concrete confirmation
Henry Bell
why bother replying to bait?
Thomas Peterson
That depends, because like said, each route you learn a bit more of the characters, and they are presented in a order so that when you get to the finale it really impacts after knowing the whole deal, also while Fate is more focused on the plot and main protagonist, DI while also advancing on the plot, what really shines are the characters, specially the villains. So you'll have to decide yourself if you'll have the patience of going trough all the routes to get to the real end, because if you decide to skip to the very last route you won't understand jack because the game was designed assuming you'll already know everyone by them.
Owen Thomas
Because it's a good excuse to post my theories about why many VN adaptations fail. I think it's interesting to try and look for the root of the issue that causes so many failures by so many different people adapting the works of different VN authors.
Angel Brown
>Light dead, Masada will haveto become a cheap LN writer >Conjueror dead, possibly suicide
What went wrong? Is it their punishment for pandering to you fucking EOPs and for gacha?
>want went wrong Getting fucked over by multiple times in succession by the people you were working with will do that to a company.
Adam Parker
If they didn't pander to EOP they wouldn't get fucked over by some 3rd party mismanaging their Kickstarter.
If they didn't want to reach for gacha money, they wouldn't get fucked over by incompetent devs.
Jaxson Morris
FGO killed Light without even directly doing anything.
Matthew Hall
They could have continued simply making games as before. They had their fanbase, both in the chuuni sphere and in vapid moege sphere. Hell, the latter is doing fine under Akabeisoft now.
Logan Brown
Wasn't gacha game going to be just a way to tell Masada's new story instead of VN format? I wonder how fanbase would've felt if it came out. Would they call Masada sellout and that gacha game is not canon just like you see with FGO right now?
Kevin Williams
Very likely it would have failed. Pretty much every eroge company gacha has.
Carter Martinez
The anime was laughably bad. I remember laughing out loud at the skeleton ghostman fistfight and Ren's spider-crawl form.
Nathaniel Lee
It takes some mental gymnastics to consider the UBW anime worse than DI anime
Jace Bennett
>Chaos;Head is a must watch for any anime viewer existing. It's important. You're always super special
Ian Torres
No Rusalka route. Why live?
Thomas Collins
Even before the kikestarter, Light wasn't the best run company. Even in Japan. Dies' release history is a mess (initially lacked routes and had shit written by multiple different people), until Acta est Fabula happened But they disclosed the issues, and it was mostly gacha. Maybe the shit kikestarter also affected them, but nowhere near as much as Pantheon's failed development
Evan Bailey
Atleast you get your delusion in Nihil difficile amanti
Ryder Thompson
The first version of Dies sounds like such a dumpster fire
Jonathan Lopez
I know about Dies irae's development. They got over that. KKK was fine, Senshikan was fine, Ikabey was fine. They were fine.
The people who know japanese well enough for masada's prose have. I am not yet among them.
Jaxon Perry
>masada's prose
This meme again?
Cooper Morgan
I don't know man, from the screenshots it doesn't look to be particularly hard to read. I had a much harder time with Maggot Baits.
Bentley Green
Silverio Vendetta and Trinity aren't written by Masada anyway.
Ethan Murphy
That's what I've heard anyway. I'm still at the level where I struggle to read Yotsuba
Eli Jenkins
頑張って user. Don't give up!
David Thompson
Then you're clearly not ready to read anything.
But at the same it's not a good idea to overestimate Masada and such. Uncommon words can always be looked up in a dictionary, ideally J-J.
I had this 敬遠 (like 尊敬 but you stay 遠い from its subject) towards Dies irae, always leaving it for later. What broke it was the English version being announced. At that moment I decided I have to read it before EOPs get their sticky fingers all over it. And I could read it fine, save for few really uncommon words.
Thomas Collins
but kanon's adaptation was pretty shit though
Brayden Martin
The second one wasn't bad. Though maybe it's just because I like hearing Sugita's voice.
Zachary Reyes
It's kinda like user said Masada's work aren't that hard to understand, even if some words are uncommon to be used, the problem is trying to translate it to english, because of the way japanese works, some words/phrases are really hard to convey in a way EOP can understand, though Dies irae isn't so bad, KKK is a real nightmare because of Masada's use of archaic/ancient writing which, while not impossible to read, its really fucking hard to put into english words without leaving something out, hence why people always avoided translating it, it's not that its impossible, just really hard and time consuming.
Easton Jenkins
Whats EOP?
Lucas Scott
"English Only Pleb"
Aiden Reyes
or "English Only Peasant" or "English Only Person" for political correctness.
Christopher Hill
Or "subhuman".
Joseph Green
that's not very nice, they try their hardest too
Brandon Cox
Such is life. Things aren't always nice.
Michael Allen
Clannad's anime is better than the VN. Same for White Album 2. ef is apparently very dissonant. Either you vastly prefer the VN or the anime. Stuff like H2O is vastly improved by its anime adaptation. And Oretsuba got an anime before a VN translation so I'll take that over nothing.
Cooper Cook
>Same for White Album 2. looooooool
>And Oretsuba got an anime before a VN translation so I'll take that over nothing. Terrible adaptation. Only a hopeless EOP like you would praise it in any way.
Landon Rogers
>Same for White Album 2 Really? I wanted to try the VN before the anime.
Samuel Carter
First learn Japanese. The English """""translation""""" is edited machine translation.
Joseph Ward
technically amagami is dating sim, but the anime pretty good IMO
