HOLY SHIT what a colossal faggot this guy is

i'm like 20 episodes in and this guy is so insufferable and stupid as fuck, desu most of the cast is irritating

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Dewey was right

Holland becomes one of the most likable and memorable characters in E7. He actually has well done character development.

He lashes out a lot for sure, but on a rewatch the way he acts makes perfectly fine sense.

No doubt, it's solid character writing, his still a massive cunt

You know what they say about meeting your heroes, turns out they're abusive assholes that will beat on you because of their own insecurity. He gets better after Renton proves to be the better man, despite being a dumb kid.

this
>desu most of the cast is irritating
if most of the cast is irritating you just have shit taste, if you're talking about holland and renton then that's how it should be at that point in the show

AHAHHAHA nevermind all of that, i kept watching, and they literally dropped that shit tier caste for this 10/10 duo, personality, chemistry, aesthetic holy shit this is great.

Also, I know they're great, all the characters are written to be incredibly human, flaws and all, just annoying at times(mostly intentionally)

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it's also cringe as fuck watching every scene, as nice as it is i just know shit's gonna go wrong for w/e reason.

You'll end up loving them all

Can you blame him?

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He wasted his chance.

He's supposed to be insufferable and stupid in the beginning, at least once you get past the cool guy persona that's first presented. The entire point is that he's become a childish prick because he's running from the responsibility he has. He becomes utterly based after he stops running away and puts his life on the line to protect Renton+Eureka/the future.

man this show is weird asf with it's presentation, at the start of each episode it feels like i skipped one,

>wow they both fucking die
fucking why?

I don't think he was even interested in her romantically. He was obsessing over the idea that he had to become her partner in the sense of traversing The Zone with her. Norb's mission for him struck a nerve due to his bloodline and the whole sacrificial king thing which is part of the reason he ran away from it all, other than simply being overwhelmed by having the fate of the world put on his shoulders. When he realizes that he can fulfill his duty by being a protector and guide to Eureka and her partner rather than having to take that position himself, he drops the bullshit entirely.

Nah he wanted to smash that fresh alien puss dude.

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Why is Bones so terrible as sequels?

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Does she even count as an alien? She was born on Earth.

He was an ass at first but he was good for dismantling the misconception that people over high school age have done all the maturing they can do.

Who wouldn't? I'd have liked to watch Renton do it. I also wish the artist for that didn't die/disappear.

This is like the most wholesome show ever and at the end every major character is redeemed.

Especially Dewey.

Something that not enough people seem to get is that Eureka7 is in a sense a lot like "classic" mecha series as in it fully utilizes its entire length to tell a story and develop its large cast (except with less mecha since it doesn't need to be a huge showcase for toys). We come in completely blind to the setting except for what the characters tell us, and we basically ever get to know just a little more about the lore than any single character ever does.
You have the large crew with unique personalities -including little kids- with some young adults in charge who need to mature too, you have a rather complex opposing side with internal factions and power games with its own share of likable characters, you have the arc where the MC wanders alone, you have the MC go through the "people die when they are killed" shock, you have the underdog good guys being constantly on the run, you have the mecha the MC pilots being one of a kind and instrumental to resolving the plot. All of that is filtered through a post-NGE lens where the main characters' growth involves intense psychological shock expressed through long metaphorical visions and jarring dissonating aesthetics from the enemy and culminates in a sekai-kei ending.

>Something that not enough people seem to get is that Eureka7 is in a sense a lot like "classic" mecha series as in it fully utilizes its entire length to tell a story and develop its large cast
This is complete bullshit.

The only irredeemably awful characters are Eureka's children. Fuck those kids

user...

It's like the fact that the anime had more or less a happy ending was a huge mistake they're trying to atone for at this rate.

Oh god this

I haaaaaated them

what sequel?

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And Ray won.

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it's not, each and every single character in the main cast goes through growth, they're completely incomparable to their selves at the start of the series, Holland chief among them.

They're clones of the brats from MSG, like Ray and Charles are of Ral and Hamon.

Wow user, where's this from? some fan art? I've never seen it before!

Those kids have tainted E7 for me. It's been so long since I watched E7 that the strongest memory I have of it is the burning hatred I felt those for those kids, everything else is vague in my head. Aside from Ichigo Mashimaro's Miu, I've never wanted to strangle anime characters as badly.

It is, most of the cast don't even go through substantial growth that justifies the run-time. Dominic and Anemone's were rushed to hell despite the fact that it was 50 episodes.

They did too good of a job at making the kids unlikable in the first half. Their presence wouldn't have worked if they actually got along with Renton because that would have broken the sense of isolation he has when joining the Gekkostate and it would have made less daunting the notion that growing closer to Eureka requires accepting the children.

Probably some of the most realistic children in anime though.

so, did is nobody going to sub Anemone's movie?

Yeah they were realistic but damn they were annoying, though I didn't really mind them since I was more focused on the good things about tbe show.

Tfw there's so much E7 threads these times ?

He eventually gets over his beef with Eureka choosing Renton and just accepts his role.

That's the point. They're all flawed people. This show's about Renton growing as a person and it's amazing.