Texhnolyze Thread

Texhnolyze's ending always gives me that sinking feeling in my gut. I'm always terrified of dying but imagine dying knowing that all of humanity is going out with you

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Humanity deserved as a whole. But Ichise wasn't even fighting for other humans right there, he wasn't never such a narcissistic MC.

that scene at the end of them just walking together (eventhough Ran isnt really there) always gets me

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i'm so pissed this show never got a blu ray rerelease. Its one of the few shows i'd actually buy if they did

The movie that’s from is a 10/10.

>never got a blu ray rerelease
Except that it did

i cant find it anywhere

>kissanime

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It definitely captures what they were going for in Lain but without the show being overly pretentious.

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Neither are pretentious.

This show's soundtrack is something else
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What really emphasized the tragedy in the end was that even though only the surface had the mind set of a slow extinction, the world below wound up dying too, and in a more miserable, sad way. The moment Yoshii died is the moment Lukuss was doomed.

Lux was doomed from the beginning. Yoshii didn't even know what he wanted, as Sakimura, they just dreamed of a big change but didn't even know how to accomplished. Yoshii's only conclusion was start chaos, and he wasn't even sure what to do aside that's what he wanted to do for himself, not even for Lux.

Yoshii knew that stagnation would lead to lux becoming just like the surface world and the only way he knew how to cause change was to rile things up though that ultimately failed when Ichise, the guy who would later be said to cause the destruction of Lux, killed him. In that sense, Onishi could be sort of seen as a villain because he tried to keep order in Lux, contributing to that stagnation

He wanted to destabilize the stagnant, miserable structure of Lukuss before it reached its final slide into oblivion. He wanted to kill the people on the Hill, which would have included Kano, and was close to sniping one before Onishi interfered. If only Yoshii didn't get too carried away savoring his handiwork, he may have lived.

He didn't have a detailed plan, true, but his actions were the closest to a step in the right direction.

The setting felt played out, the characters were boring except for the funny hat guy who had at least interesting motivation but was still boring in execution, the animation and designs were lacking, the directing peaked with the first episode and was average at best until the ending.
Basically it had nothing to hook me in. By the time it started to get interesting waaaay late into the show I realized I did not give a shit about any of the characters or the world.
Maybe I would have liked it more if I found the themes compelling, but fatalism does not interest me all that much and I found the existential theme was still lacking in execution.

Was there any relevance to one of the assassins in Episode 14 having a unique design with long brunette drill curls? She shoots an Organo leader in the head at a pool. I was surprised we never saw her again in a background anywhere.

When is it supposed to get good again?
Dropped it after he spend the entire episode inside the sewer I think.

Ran beach episode when?

I'll have to give it another look but iirc, Japanese fans were just as curious about that character/design when there was the 15th anniversary rewatch last year. I don't think she has any relevance, but it's weird enough seeing a female assassin in the Organo.

>He wanted to kill the people on the Hill, which would have included Kano,
Something interesting to note is that while he condemns all of the Class for being "weak invalids," he doesn't extend that to Doc, whose work he admires, and he also describes her as a 'goddess who mechanizes human beings' despite being originally of the Class as well.

Furthermore, she's actually working with Kano for the first half of the series, as she's sending him regular reports of her progress and ultimately presents Ichise to him as the culmination of her work (which he concludes is either unsatisfactory or unaligned with his aesthetics).

Since we later learn from her that Kano's ideas were considered heretical by the Class, and also that Doc is similar in that she voluntarily left, I'm not actually sure if Yoshii would've gone after Kano.

Initially it's suggested that Kano's plan is to Texhnolyze/Shape the entirety of the population underground, ostensibly to invade the surface. This actually isn't all that different from Yoshii, who wants to spark a war with and eliminate the Class, and then possibly reclaim the surface. We also get that sequence in episode 17 where Sakimura hallucinates Yoshii as a Shape and asks if this was also his goal.

I didn't know Doc was working with Kano.

She's really the only character who would have contact with him early on in the show.

It makes sense then that she's really the only one who knows anything about him in detail other than Onishi, who he only faintly remembers because he gave him his legs. This also hints at Kano's 'heretical' beliefs: not only does he interact with a denizen of Lux, he also goes so far as to ask for his legs, which no other Class member would entertain since they're cloistered and incestuous. Even the representative that meets with Gotoh finds the stench of city-dwellers so repugnant that he requires the chamber in which they're meeting to be 'cleaned.'

I think he would’ve tried to go after Kano if he understood what Kano was trying to achieve. Kano’s solution was almost no different from the situation on the surface, just immortal beings doing nothing, which can hardly be called living. Kano only invades the surface (presumptively) to create more shapes. If Yoshi thought waging war on the surface would’ve changed anything, he could’ve done it solo easily. The Class was already a lost cause from the start

I made a post in an older thread that suggested the endgame for Kano and the Shapes might not necessarily have been what he'd intended.

The montage sequence in the opening minutes of the last episode--specifically the part where Kano's perched next to the Obelisk, and has a kinda inscrutable expession overlooking the city before turning off the city's lights--might also suggest that Kano recognized his own failure to change Lux. After all, he failed to bring the entirety of the underground under his thrall, and by the time the Shapes are immobilized, Onishi and Shinji still live, and there are roving mobs of insane Luxians raping and pillaging everywhere they go.

Everything after might have been Kano just rolling with the aftermath of his failure: having failed to enact the change he wanted, he believes that there's nothing left for him and the Shapes to do but ruminate and evolve into something different. So it may not be (though there's not a lot of evidence) that his endgame was planned, but just a result of his failure.

He might have just planned to keep the doctor around after killing The Class so at least one person who could do maintenance on artificial limbs was present. Considering that Kano's plan was to strip away humanity and make "immortal" beings that did nothing, Yoshii would have likely seen that as poorly recreating the surface world that he hated.

Did he immobilize the Shapes himself, or did Onishi do that when he went under the obelisk (off-screen) after Ran was captured?

This is something that's bothering me endlessly. We're never really given an exact point in time where this happens. I think the only certainty is that it's after the Shapes defeat the remaining resistance in the city (Onishi, Shinji, Gabe villagers/sane Luxians) and capture Ran.

I've read an ancient ANN post that suggests Ran was responsible as a kind of last act of defiance, but again, I don't think there's any evidence to support that other than the Obelisk continuing to deteriorate until all Texhnolyze have been rendered useless (this might coincide with Ran's declining physical/mental state near the end of the series).

Just based on the visual evidence in the series, it seems more accurate that Kano had built that function into the Shapes (the other Texhnolyze in the city are merely disabled), but maybe as a kind of insane contingency situation like we see in the ending.

I think Yoshii's pretty infatuated with the idea of Texhnolyzation based on what he says to Doc, and his own words to the two Rakan thugs who incorrectly assume he's Texhnolyzed ("That would have been nice."). He clearly respects the technology more than the cumbersome augmentations the Theonormals deploy (Saginuma), and probably his own body modifications.

It's probably fair to assume that the post-Class society he's attempting to build out of the ashes of the status quo underground is one where Texhnolyzed individuals play a heavy role, but he also wants the weak and infirm to be purged as well.

He appreciates the Texhnolyzation technology, but Kano's idea for it is to strip humanity entirely and hope that whatever arises from that dead cocoon world will be an advanced humanity. Judging from the severe facial spasms of the Shapes, the human part of them might actually be dying instead of properly preserved.

Oh yeah, I don't have any doubts that Kano was fucked up beyond belief. The facial spasms really make it hard to believe that Kano or the Shapes have succeeded at all.

I don't even think he wants to evolve into an "advanced humanity," the incestuous (way-too-much-incest) circumstances of his birth and his physical deformities (his legs, arguably his hair colour and eyes) made him reject the human body entirely, and that informs his philosophy for the Shapes--to the point where he's only leaving their heads/brains intact.

It's a far cry from Doc's non-violent, genuinely empathetic ideals--helping people overcome their disabilities (also recall Yoshii's comments early on in the show about the deteriorating physical conditions of humans in Lux), and to allow people to express themselves in new ways while retaining their humanity. I think the best example is Ichise in the final scene where his arm's projecting the holographic flower, which you could also take more literally as Ran being "reborn as raffia flowers," comforting him in the same way she did when she led him out of the sewers.

I think the doctor was more concerned with personal glory and having a bit of power over every person rather than actual empathy -- or at least that was the truth by the time the series began.

I'll go out on a limb and say no because everyone in the show had a distinct character design. Can't really recall another show in the last ever that had background mooks look as unique as they did.

She's definitely arrogant and fetishizes her own work (and Texhnolyze in general) but by the 18th episode or a bit earlier, after much of her work's been destroyed and things are looking more hopeless than ever, it's hard for me not to take her for her word.

Her scene with Ichise in the 18th episode, even if she still displays a selfish streak, makes me feel like she's genuine about wanting to save (and improve) lives with her work.

I saw it more as her reverting into bitter hopelessness when her position of power was shattered, and she still treated Ichise as her one feel-good possession. People finally start using Ichise's name again when they feel so hopeless that they no longer think of themselves as lofty, not because he's finally won them over after the nth time.

for me the characters were the best part of this show