Why is Araragi so beta that he doesn't even defile he tight virgin pussy on the gym storage room mats when she's...

Kizu Hanekawa>Kisshot>rest of the series Hanekawa

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Acerola is used goods

cope

kizu hanekawa is easily the best character in the entire series (after kaiki of course)
my nibba nisio isin had to do some mean shit to her character to notch down her power level in future installments

KILL
YOURSEFL
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOUIUU NIGGER

Better a second hand Jaguar XKR than a brand new Lada Samara.

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he has an eternal inferiority complex towards hanekawa

Should i read the novels from the start after i catch up to anime? How much was cut when adapting?

Well, if you don't read the novels, you will miss the most awesome names in the series.

The guy who gave Kiss Shot her name is really a man of culture.

yeah but these novels haven't been translated yet if you don't count fan translations

You're a fag too then.

Kizu is peak monogatari and it's not really close

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>Araragi gets his head cut off
>screaming baby head pops out
K I N O

>We learned from Kaiki that these novels aren't actually 100% factual accounts of things

Source? I've read this idea so many times but never seen it in the source material

The opposite is true, though. Araragi basically says that in his retellings of things he is omitting the good stuff. He specifically says he isn't sharing the intimacy he has with Shinobi with the reader, which basically makes the entire series into an elaborate blue-balling scheme.

Wait was she really? If so eugh I can't believe I used to like this slut

>Believing Araragi

yeah
that's literally the title of the book

Araragi is a true gentlemen only interested in undeveloped flat chests

>believing Araragi about Araragi saying you can't believe him

Kill yourself, speedwatcher. She says over and over again that she had a servent 400 years before Araragi.

He is not a lolicon

this, he said so himself multiple times

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What?? Literally I watched Bake almost a decade ago and maybe Nise 5 years ago now. I didn't even finish Nise because I slept through half each episode and you expect me to remember?

He, the author, is full of shit.

Just temporarily. She'll die in 60-80 years. Meanwhile, Shinobu will be there for eternity

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Shinobu will have found a third by then.

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Yeah, Araragi and Senjougahara's great grandson.

He was saving himself to walk best girl home gently

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>Araragi will never kill Shinobu and she will never kill him, so they will both be immortal and live till the planet is gone

Still my favorite love story.

>tight virgin pussy
>she's basically begging him to do something
Yeah, no OP, pick one. We all know Whorenekawa spent as much time outside the house as she could blowing hobos and black guys in the park.

why would he walk hachikuji home gently?

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Watching in in universe timeline order was a mistake. Watching Kizumonogatari first fucked up my expectations for the rest of the series.

weak ntr bait m8

>why
ghost c*nny

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If you expect people to fuck in anime, you're gonna have a bad time. You need to stop now while you're ahead. Cliches are called cliches for a reason, they won't go away. If they bother you that much, it's better for you to stop watching anime altogether.

How else will the dumb snail find her house?

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why is an ANIME CHARACTER a beta? I dont know maybe so people can self insert into them as someone who doesn't go after women but they're still begging for dick. anime is just the capitalization on the lonely virgin market

Guys is shinobu even used goods by human standards? Yeah, she had a minion back then but she created him out of fear of being alone. They didn't even get along since the minion was pissed he got turned into a vamp

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Shinobu is virgin

She's damaged goods. Not even her level of regeneration can unfuck that.

Because NissioIssin wrote it after Bake so the characterization is all retarded.

Yeah, I know right? To hell with all those muhsoggykneest in*els! They need beta self-inserts because they're not CHAD enough to handle strong independent womyn and lack the necessary "equipment" Like a forklift

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i never said this is a bad thing or that the people they are pandering to are misogynistic. stop assuming i am ridiculing you.

I've only seen Bake and Kizu so far and while Bake was pretty good I honestly can't see anything else from the normally styled series topping Kizu, fucking loved those movies. Literally visual perfection in every aspect.

Your shitty post had nothing to do with the real reason he avoided doing it. You see, his ahoge acts like a radar for weird and crazy. That's why he gets pulled into all these retarded situations. Thus, as Hanekawa was thinking
>Oh noo, I'm stuck in the dimly lit gym storage room with the school's #1 bad boy! time to become a teen pregnancy statistic!
Araragi knew then that she was off her fucking rocker and thus avoided her. This was the will of fate, thus leading him to later meet his true love and best girl Senjougahara.

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Kirito only got his virtual glop on. I don't think he and Asuna ever fucked after leaving SAO, which is way worse.

It fits just fine. Araragi always put Hanekawa on such a high pedestal that he refused to do anything to her.

If you get laid in full dive VR are you still a virgin?

>Hanekawa gets the most girlfriend development ever in Kizu
>they were already onto each other before the arc even
>instead Araragi settles for a girl he meets for like a week

Still the biggest flaw in this series.
Kizu movies cemented them so well as a couple Hanekawa being the one makes the most sense. I say this as a Shinobufag.

I see you too are a collector of heavily pixelated Monogatari slap pictures from the Second Season.

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You'd be right except that Hanekawa admits that she was completely down to fuck by her own admission. She says something like
>My thoughts at the time we're "I can't believe my first time is going to be in a gym locker".
Hanekawa was completely willing to put out, but Araragi pussied out.

Because Senjou is genuine. She saved herself and fell in love with Araragi unconditionally. She didn't ask anything in return.
Hanekawa with her split personality shit and fake facade was a mess. And she wanted Araragi to save her from her shitty life.

ACTUALLY she have regenerating vagina so she's bodily pure.

Cause she isn't a loli

Based and Crabpilled

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How do you have sex with a dead guy's hand? Is it like having sex with a classroom desk?

>that pose
what did she mean by this?

Imagine the threesome

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>genuine
Yeah nah. If that was the case then Kanbaru would have been the better option.
Senjougahara relationship with Koyomi was extremely forced and horrible written.
There was no build up to it and even after they become a "couple" they barely interact with each other. In fact, Koyomi spends more time with literally every other girl BUT Senjougahara.
And by Koyomi's personality in general it would make sense that he would go for the first girl that offered. It just happened that Hanekawa was way too late in her confession.

Hitagi stapled his mouth open within the first few minutes of talking with him, and if you read the commentaries, its mentioned she mauled Kanbaru for wanting to help her with the Crab before the story begins. Hanekawa has her faults sure, but she always told Araragi from day fucking one she wasn't a saint. Furthermore, people conveniently forget Araragi was very much in love with Tsubasa and got buttmad primarily because she didn't rely on him, rather than being mad that she went to an oddity. Read Neko Black again, it revealed that Araragi himself has his own selfish and warped views on Hanekawa. Dude literally tells her to be his guiding light forever, facade and all.

And unlike Hitagi's issues, where she always had the support of a loving father(who upon her recovery, took her on a family trip even if they are dirt poor and in debt, Gaharadad is the MVP of parents in this show, too bad the anime cut out his headpat to Hitagi)Tsubasa has nobody, both before and after her taking care of her problems, she just had to suck it up and move out, accepting she never had a family that loved her and she wasted her entire life trying to get along with people who weren't going to accept her anyway.

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he married crab? well makes sense after walking her home gently

wasn't that all in his head though?

this. nisiofags will get uppity about some dialogue being cut, but overall the movie trilogy is still the best part of the series.

entire monogatari is just a dream of dying koyomi after being hit by truck-kun and then he gets isekai'd to medieval fantasy

walk me home roughly tonight

All Hanekawa has to do is ask and both their clothes will fly off so fast it wouldn't even be funny. Problem is, she wants a solid partner, not a fling, so she won't do it.

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I liked the part where Hanekawa forced Senjougahara to help her by threatening to ask Araragi out

>thoughts
You answered yourself

That's what you get for listening to reddit

He's a lolicon

>[x]Doubt

It's not forced
Hitagi just asked first

Hanekawa is super developed as a gf material, but she was so fucking afraid of rejection that she never tried and when she did try, it was way too fucking late for that

Hitagi asked him out and he said ok
Kanbaru meanwhile is the total opposite of hitagi, she came in hard asking him to fuck and he refused because if some one shows up and ask you to fuck, you refuse because who the fuck is crazy enough to do that

>because who the fuck is crazy enough to do that
only the best of the best girls

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Araragi still doesn't deserve Hanekawa, not even in current novels

because he would have killed her. he didn't have total control of his vampire powers

Hanekawa doesn't deserve shit since she's become an autistic no borders leftist. Araragi is too good for her now.

SHE WAS BEGGIN FOR

Nah, Araragi will always be inferior and sadly that weights too much in his inner psyche.
Maybe in 100 years they will be ready for each other, who knows.

Cause he's a lolicon with an incest fetish.

He married WORST girl?
What fucking shit taste. I hope he gets ntr'd.

>Kanbaru meanwhile is the total opposite of hitagi, she came in hard asking him to fuck
Explain further

Deep down he belongs to Shinobu and there's no connection of his that is stronger than this one, so if you think about it the marriage is a farce.

>leftist whore
>good for anyone
fuck off

so... his actions never really mattered?

Not that user but it's easy. Senjougahara is pretty close to being worst girl and Kanbaru being her direct opposite is pretty close to being best girl.

...

Maybe him complaining about the leftist part is /pol/, but Cat lifting up her skirt and exposing her pantsu so she can be buddy buddy with the canon "bad boy" of the school and getting ready to have her first time in the gym storage room is pretty whoreish. Typical of low tier girl Hanekawa, though. Then there's the part where apparently, Araragi still has her pantsu that she gave him, though I think she gets it back in one of the later books.

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Can't be a whore when it's for one guy only

Hanekawa seems more based than I remember.

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user you were replying to here

I was retarded and typed hitagi instead of hanekawa

Kanbaru is the opposite of hanekawa
Hanekawa is afraid of getting hurt so she never asks araragi out
Kanbaru is not afraid of rejection so she goes in hard, too hard for araragi,to the point she flat says she is doing that so she can eventually land a 3 way with Araragi and hitagi

Would Araragi fuck Hanekawa non stop if they were a couple?

just watched all of bake and starting up the others now.
Is this a real plot point in the series?
I came here just to post how strange it was that no one besides the main characters seem to exist in the world.

The question is moot because they'll never ever be a couple because Cat a garbage and shit.

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oh nevermind, can't get through kizumonogatari 1.

kuso show don't care.

No, it isn't.

Imagine believing Senjougahara is a good character...

Good character doesn't always mean likable character.

>I hope he gets ntr'd.
Granted. Kaiki already took Crab's virginity

First of all, nice dubs.
>she wasted her entire life trying to get along with people who weren't going to accept her anyway.
I can relate.

If she's only known the guy for a week, yes she can be.

shichika was better

>canonically weaker than Yozuru
Imagine breaking a castle in half with a single hit and still being weaker than Yozuru?

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>walking her home gently
Damn

That's literally what Hitagi did, girl baited him when he was honestly trying to help her, by walking naked in front of him. Then the week after, offered naked apron, she even admits later on in Tsubasa Tiger that she asked him out to NTR Tsubasa, meaning she thought he was taken, as did their entire class. Araragi was the only one dumb enough to think Hanekawa didn't like him.

People get on Hanekawa, but forget how dense Araragi is, how warped his feelings are for Hanekawa (the guy wanted to buy a porn book and rub one out over her right after meeting her, if anyone is a slut, its him). Hanekawa even cutely teases him about it, and the guy still has his class rep porn of girls who look like her years later. Hanekawa took his collection back in Musubi, but the dude still has his Linkin Park esque twisted feelings about her even now and hurt her feelings.

>any non immortals mattering
I do wonder how crab deals with loli bat bath NTR and sister fucking even after marriage though

By fucking Hanekawa on the side.

Notice how I'm not excluding crab.

Same, it sounds like bullshit to me. The unreliable narrator is a part of storytelling but so is an author who wants to mess with things for retcon purposes or because he never liked how a previous novel explained something. Then again there's also SHAFT doing its thing to help spread the confusion, so who knows.

Araragi finds her hot but is completely sick of her shit and is playing dense to get rid of her because he knows she'll be even more of a pain otherwise.

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Please. Read that last part of Mitome Wolf, and he's literally back to where he was in Neko Black, where he said they would both be unhappy for the rest of their lives. He tried pushing her away even when he is basically cheating on his girlfriend anyway, pretty much all the time. He genuinely thinks that it makes him happy if Hanekawa thinks of him as unworthy of her time. It's pretty warped, his mindset is completely cracked and people STILL think the boy is sane. Furthermore, if he was tired of her shit, he wouldn't say that he believes she can make a peaceful world.

>unconditionally
She literally tells him her affection is conditional and she'll leave him if a better option comes along.

>gets a direct confession
>later on says "yeah, i was in love with you once, you know, in the past"
>hanekawa drops by to visit out of nowhere
>"gee, a sane person would have moved on and stopped beta orbiting years ago, there's no way the real hanekawa is visiting me, she's too smart for that"
There's no way this is an accident.

Unlike crab, araragi doesn't actually fuck anybody on the side.

What are the best of subs for each arc starting from season two? I watched bake and nise long time ago when i didn't really cared about such things, but now i kinda feel anxious not getting the best version of subs

And she complete that sentence by saying people in a relationship should always try to better for the other and Araragi le already very special for her

What are you talking about. He doesn't care about Cat anymore. She just suddenly came to him after 5 years and literally said "Hey Araragi do you remember me? Do you want to drop you beloved gf and fuck me by any chance? Come with me, leave Crab". It was pathetic. And he replied "Nah bitch, it's too late. I loved you back then but it's over".

thats a big snail

Shinobu probably fucked a few of the people she ate in the past. It's hard not to take pity on somebody that doesn't want to die a virgin.

They could fuck before the Darkness attacked them.

Except he never says he loved her, he just accepted her confession later. Plus, she came there because what she was doing was wearing on her, and sure, a friend should be there to tell you the hard things when you need to hear them, bit he didn't do that. He made fun of her when he of all people knows what she does is help people, and she ends up wanted for it. Her wanting a partner isn't that far fetched, it's actually reasonable. And if you are going to use the argument that he already has a girlfriend, then keep in mind that they've been on again off again several times, sometimes getting help from Hanekawa herself in the background, and he still is pretty much unfaithful to her with Shinobu. Yes, they "accept" this deal, but remember in Hitagi End, Senjougahara pretty much admitted to Kaiki she just goes along with Araragi's will, no matter how harmful it may be, to avoid losing him. That part of their relationship and her lack of self assertion is never addressed, but they are made out to be this strong couple. So the multiple breakups and her having to basically pull out all the stops putting her career on the line by making her boss set up a proxy office in Japan was really stretching it for me. Araragi is fine being anywhere because as is seen in all the stories, he has no ambition, no career goal, so he can go anywhere.

But back to Hanekawa. In Mitome Wolf, that was the first time he admitted to saying he loved her, and it was petty as all fuck since he never made his feelings apparent unlike her, which makes it both poignant and much worse in retrospect, because she had the right to say those words, he didn't, because he deluded himself into saying he didn't love her, as we saw in Neko Black. Thus why her nonplussed reaction is understandable.

I'm not going to read a wall of made-up bullshit from some coping faggot.

You're trying to make Araragi look good, but you're failing. He's been unfaithful before, so it's not like he is some monogamous guy who has some pesky girl coming on to him, given he is in some dreamlike situation where he can get the affection of two girls simultaneously, because the two won't argue about it or even converse with one another, he basically gets his cake and eats it too despite being unapologetically unfaithful.

He very much still likes Hanekawa, I dunno where you got he hates her. He basically think she has more important business because his viewpoint that she is some higher power in his mind hasn't changed, there was no, "bitch better leave me alone" in his thoughts, it's the same mindset he has always had. Her being an unfairly labeled "terrorist" muddled things in his mindset because he is a cop. And let's be honest even if he did accept Hanekawa's invitation, did you really think she would leave Gahara hanging? She would bring her with them, she did say she was looking for allies for her plans ahead.

Except it's not dreamlike because one of those girls is an annoying cunt he wants out of his life.

Sure, sure. And you can keep up your delusions that Araragi is this completely faithful and totally sane MC.

Wanting a crazy whore to fuck off and being faithful are two different things.

> You're trying to make Araragi look good
Because he was looking good in Mitome Wolf. He was pissed off when she sneaked into his house and started her old shit about love even though she knew about his tough situation with Hitagi. For him it was over long ago. That's why he said that there was a moment back in school when he loved her. He was pissed off.
> He's been unfaithful before
No. And even if he was it's not Hanekawa's business. It's between Araragi, Shinobu and Hitagi. Since the girls are fine with everything nobody can judge him because he doesnt't hurt them.
> He very much still likes Hanekawa
You are meantally ill. He didn't even remember her before Mitome Wolf.
> He basically think she has more important business because his viewpoint that she is some higher power
It has nothing to do with "he likes her".

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Again, he doesn't think of her as some "crazy whore" otherwise he would just have taken her in as technically whatever craziness is going on in the world at the moment, he has the right to arrest her despite her basically being a peace advocate having numerous good deeds under her belt. Second, good, at the very least you admit he isn't faithful. Besides, his own girlfriend loves her, so from how polygamous relationships usually thrive, a relationship with Hanekawa in the mix is better overall than one with Shinobu by virtue the former talks with all parties.

>maybe if i spam my headcanon hard enough it will become true
The only one you're managing to fool is yourself.

am i allowed to like girls now Yea Forums?

>Watching Kizumonogatari first fucked up my expectations for the rest of the series.
Everyone watched Kizumonogatari first
youtube.com/watch?v=7qay2vhFc3Y

In the hood, we call this move a "swerve"™️

Sure. Like girls all you want. Just keep your fanfics about them out of the thread.

Where to start here. First, the only reason he is having a tough time with Hitagi is because he is treating life as lackadaisical as always. If he is pissed about it, he could have thrown her out or arrested her, as he has the technical "right". He said what he said as an emotional response, but he doesn't hate her what he said in the epilogue contradicts that.

Second, she was one if the people helping them in the background with their relationship problems in college, it's not like they haven't talked at all. Plus Gahara couldn't really get mad at Hanekawa making a pass at Araragi, as their own relationship started with Hitagi assuming he was dating Tsubasa. Saying otherwise would be implementing a double standard. Like surprise subjugating land from people, making up laws on how its divided up on your own without the consent of those peoples, and then later calling foul play when they rise against you. Also, if you didn't get that Hitagi is absolutely terrified of losing Araragi to a fault, then you missed the point of Hitagi End. Of course she isn't going to argue about Shinobu, not even if it destroyed him in the end. Owari proved that Shinobu too, would defer to his decision despite it leading to his end, where who saved him at the end? That "crazy whore" ya'll hate so much, while he was HAPPILY going to kill himself leaving them behind, and you call that same, rational, or healthy? You'd be the one mentally ill my friend.

>doesn’t fuck bee and bat
That’s some deusion

Kizu is honestly the worst part of the entire series. It's the least meaningful and the least entertaining.

> Cat tried to seduce and steal Araragi while he was depressed and vulnerable after the most serious fight with the woman he actually loves, like a fucking homewrecker
> she is saint guys I swear
Crazy catfag

Bro, she had been helping them for years and they must have annoyed her to a degree just like Sodachi told them to fuck off at one point.
And nobody said she was a saint, but this is just a weird thing to call Cat a crazy whore over. They aren't even engaged, and Hitagi had been working overseas for awhile then, so it was strained anyway, you are acting like they were getting married in a couple months and Cat was stealing him at the altar. Their relationship is one of the most topsy turvy, on again off again, "will check in on this every few months" couple I have ever seen in anime. For a young couple they are really conservative. While he basically has his little sister act like his newlywed wife making him meals, and his loli vampire caressing him whenever she wants while his girlfriend is working her ass off overseas. It's not a mistake Araragi felt embarrassed he felt Zero motivation in whatever he wants to do, and got in with the police because of his parent's being higher ups. Dude is a bum who is luckier than he will ever admit.

> she had been helping them for years
Really? When and how?

For things outright spelled out, Hanekawa helped plan their date in Owari, but it's not mentioned in the anime. For later on, it's not given much focus because their fights aren't given much focus, but iirc, it was the one where Sodachi got in the middle of it and they broke up due to a misunderstanding. 'Cause you also remember Cat was working behind the scenes to help Sodachi too, right? She promised that in Owari. Cat does good shit for peeps.

So she literally did nothing. Ok.

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Betas can be quite pathetic
t. ex-Beta here

/Thread

Or, as Araragi said himself, he was a chicken and HE was the one who initiated, so your cope skills are off the charts here. He said it himself, that he thinks he is taking advantage of her, teased her, and then blue balled hard because he is a pussy. Then he did it again about a month later, completely pussied out, and she low key got him to heal her cheek. It's sad that people try to make him look cool, and he is absolutely pathetic a good deal of the time.

>loses Arararara to his sisters and Crab
>always jobs to Snek
bat best loser

crab is exclusive and absolute kike territory

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People don't read or watch Nekomonogatari Kuro, this is why there are always brainlets that don't get why Araragi rejected Hanekawa.

Also, the Hanekawa worship and love that Araragi has up until Bake just feeds his suicidal tendencies. When he chose to reject her and asked Shinobu for help the act was also simbolic for his first step of self-acceptance and self-love, and he only got to that point because of his relationship with Hitagi.

Because cat is second worst girl

>Araragi's mom

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Cat executes a warped, robotic sense of "right" for her own self-satisfaction. Occasionally it actually helps, most of the time she's just being an annoying, meddling cunt.

>implying Crab isn't Kaiki's leftovers and thus isn't shit

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Kanbaru's not aiming for a three-way (she probably wouldn't say no if she was offered though, sure), she was formerly Hitagi's crazy obsessed stalker and then moved from her to Araragi, it's a bit more blatant in the LNs. You saw how she ended up after Araragi left town (that story was only a few weeks or so after he started college or some shit too, despite how dramatic she was acting about it)

>First, the only reason he is having a tough time with Hitagi is because he is treating life as lackadaisical as always.
Not that guy but that's not true at that point in time, they drifted apart due to work-related reasons which is a real thing. Between his own job and the work he does for Gaen he was preparing to meet up with and talk to Gahara about everything too, Gahara just happened to come back first at the end of that book. Just because he doesn't go full retard for once and drop everything to run overseas and get the girl like you guys want it doesn't mean he's being lackadaisical.

Koyomi's moreorless got his life together now. Compared to how he was earlier in the series if the only things wrong in his life now are some on-off relationship troubles and a few ingrained minor hangups over stuff like Hanekawa which probably won't ever disappear (but is also completely inconsequential at this point) he's doing pretty good for himself I'd say.

You didn't have friends in school, huh?

who was in the wrong here?

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Sodachi but she had her reasons.

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I think the spook is pretty redpilled! But also the monkey too

Dumb

is mirrored dead?

I actually sincerely doubt she's ever had sex.
As a human she was a pretty fucking consummate maiden.

As a vampire, in the kinda world that Monogatari is, I doubt she ever even gave a shit about sex. Even for Araragi, by the time he almost boned Hanekawa he was far away enough from human that eating her was starting to overshadow the thought. After a month of vampirism I doubt any vampire gives a fuck about sex at all anymore. And she does explicitly talk about how time passing completely changed her outlook.

This itself is evident from how vastly different Rora's personality is from Kiss Shots, and how her personality starts to become significantly softer (and less violent) and Shinobu.

Oh and she couldn't have had sex as Rora, at least not after getting "cursed," on account of anyone getting close to her commits fucking suicide.

Ummmmm how sweaty?

FUCK crabcucks

Just finished second season.
Is there any point in watching further if i only care about crab?

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Watch the second episode of Koyomimonogatari, it's a really sweet Crab-centric episode. That's about it.

Well that sucks, thanks anyways.

He's a fag