Why is good sci-fi anime so rare these days?

Why is good sci-fi anime so rare these days?

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60s had the moonlanding and shit. So we cruised for a while on that. But the excitement for space is now rather stale.

Wait for a few years, until asteroid mining and a Mars mission are really underway. You'll get plenty of space exploratory scifi again.

>asteroid mining and a Mars mission
>ever
we'll get a kaczynski apocalypse long before that

Harder to write then generic medieval isekai #9456839793.

Only if you expect sci-fi to be a speculative genre. The same could be said of fantasy though. And I don't appreciate you using the term "medieval", when the isekai you are referring to have little to do with medieval Europe.

80s and 90s sci-fi was generic as hell and all the works you flock to were adapted manga.
Because sci-fi is over. How often do you feel the need to make this worthless thread? We've already arrived at the future. There are no dreams of the future anymore because diminishing returns have kicked in a long time ago. Changes we will observe over the course of the next 25-50 years are minuscule in nature and likely limited to electric cars, foldable phones and a bunch of other shit that doesn't fundamentally change our way of life. Nobody dreams of exploring space anymore because we realize that we have neither the resources nor the technology. Hardware is starting to hit its limits as well and we haven't been able to revolutionize battery technology in multiple decades.

sci-fi entails far more than space. just saying.

I know. I specifically made the specification to make a particular point.

>specifically made the specification
Goddamnit, I shouldn't edit half a sentence without rereading the whole thing afterwards.

I wonder how did you came up with this load of horseshit

1. sci-fi requires more creativity and world building than fantasy, because you can just make Dragon Quest/DnD/Tolkien template #374253 and people will gobble it up
2. people watch anime for escapism, and modern sci-fi is becoming increasingly cynical because we're more aware of the boring and mundane dystopia we live in

Why do sci-fi when you can adapt another isekai novel or make another slice of life staring schoolgirls.

Go outside and ask the average individual what they think they world will look like in 25 years. Nobody's gonna say flying cars, Mars colony, holografic advertisements, robot slaves, AI, teleportation, underwater cities or highly advanced modifcation of human bodies anymore. People have no concept of the future anymore. It's basically fact. Old sci-fi anime weren't even well written, they merely appeared to people because they shared thier personal dreams. Nobody is gonna watch garbage like Beatless and think
>woah, this never occured to me!
Nobody would give a shit about GITS anymore either. 80s-90s sci-fi addressed extremely basic questions that aren't even worth discussing anymore.

Sci-fi’s for queers

They should do more sci-fi like that Drop out animu. Take a wild premise that slightly alters the world and just roll with it.

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Flying cars, holographic ads, underwater cities etc are old memes. They are proof that sci-fi is no harder to write than your generic isekai.
As for the other stuff, that's coming. But there is a difference between "sci-fi", that's just robo girls in an otherwise mostly modern society, and actual speculation, which is rare by definition and has always been rare, because most authors are just people writing for fun, and not going to put that much effort into it.

Oh, so you're one of those people who believes sci-fi should be a high brow genre that appeal to codemonkeys and labrats. Yea, I wonder how that's gonna fly with the people who need to finance the production.

>so you're one of those people who believes sci-fi should be a high brow genre
No, I'm not.
I was implicitly telling and co that they are wrong. I have no idea where you are getting that nonsense from.

And you don't even need space travel to travel to other planets. Wormholes directly to other planet surfaces work too, and you can even add transportation like trains through them.

because the future is now

>I have no idea where you are getting that nonsense from.
So you are illiterate, then? The narrative and world building tools you look down upon fall under the definition of the genre. There're plenty of new sci-fi anime every year. They simply aren't high-brow enough for you to acknowledge at as such. You even specifically say
>"sci-fi"
to show everybody that to you, all these non-high brow anime are mere fantasy with robots, undeserving of being calling sci-fi.

Sci-fi is still plenty escapist

>The narrative and world building tools you look down upon fall under the definition of the genre
Yes, and "fantasy" is named after something that most generic fantasy stories lack.
That doesn't mean it's not fantasy or sci-fi. It just means that not everything is good.
>They simply aren't high-brow enough for you to acknowledge at as such.
I do acknowledge them. I was making a distinction between speculative ones and non-speculative ones.

japanese can't into sci-fi and they given up it

Because the Japanese economy died in the 90's and never recovered. Now executives and producers who decide whether anything gets even the smallest amount of exposure all refuse to consider the idea of allowing anything remotely new or risky receive so much as a light novel publication.

Instead, they hunt down web novel writers who are making isekai based on generic Dragon Quest-esque JRPGs, publish their shitty fanfic as a light novel, and if that's successful then they get one 12 episode season of an anime and then one movie once that's done. A second season is a MAYBE, but you'll never get a third or fourth season unless the LN is in the top 3 sales.

Introducing an audience to a new setting or new concepts, which is almost a certainty in scifi, is BAD. Too risky, might not make a profit, don't bother. Such things never even make it past the first stage of pre-production. Tell a Kadokawa executive that you have an original screenplay for them to consider, and they'll just tell you no before they've even read it. The west is suffering the exact same problem, if it's not an adaptation of an existing book, movie, play, television show, anime, or video game; then they're just not interested in taking that risk. Which results in diminishing returns and... them taking even fewer risks.

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Do you have any data on that or are you just talking out of your ass?

Kanata no Astra is pretty good

Anime or not, sci-fi is generally a shitty genre.

when you look back at past "good" sci-fi, you feel like they were the norm. in reality there was a lot of shit and you are just remembering the few good ones. there is still good sci-fi being made.

Dragon Quest makes a fuckton of money.

a) It's not that rare
b) Writers are more interested in taking what we have today and making something out of it than saying in the year 2XXX we'll have cool space battles. A lot less asspulls and random tech to save the day, the protag has to use their brain and current day solutions.

This.

For the same reason mecha died as a genre, production quality has dropped too low to make things with lots of detail. Shit, we can't even get non-CG crowds in most anime now.

Again you're thinking space. Sci-fi is so much more, and the smaller the scale and closer to contemporary time, usually the better. It doesn't need many sci-fi elements either. Just some critical ones. Then see what happens.

>Pretending the Economic Bubble didn't burst.

Just wait for the mitsuo iso anime to save the genre