Finally they surpass Shonen Jump

wasn't like this last year too?

In Japan doujins number is Populity of Series
attack on titan have many doujins in 2013~2014
but now japanese people don't care about aot

I wonder what Yuuki Aoi thinks of Shuten Douji's design.
I mean, it is clearly just her with horns.

Fate is literally the penultimate fact that Japan has no taste at all

Fate was okay until FGO
FGO secondaries is a totally different crowd from regular TMfags rhough

all original type moon fans are either dead or moved on at this point
hell, they dont even want the fucking tsukihime remark to begin with

>My chuuni self insert porn game is better than your chuuni self insert gacha shit!

Nah, they just don't want Tsukihime remake to be reduced to 10 min joke FGO event made to sell waifus in swimsuits

alright shonen bros. It's time to band together to take down the f*te menace.

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if you can self insert into the original TM protagonists you're a broken fucking person

For this month. With nothing going on for Dragon Ball. Heck, even OP is on top of DB. That should've been a big red flag that this isn't going to last.

>Fate buys out JUMP, Takeuchi inserts his rhinoceros faced females in every manga.

I'm not sure how I feel about this.

you'd have to be stupid to think they're the same.
a porn game with anime characters is something we can actually own and play.
when it comes to gacha games a lot of them require payments with micro-transactions.

>This started as an eroge

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Seeing how Aoi draws her own art of Shuten I think she fucking loves the design.

imagine being so mad that you take a screencap of an extremely false statement

Fate is far below shonen since its entire appeal is waifu pandering for cumbrains. Fucking Naruto has way more artistic integrity than that dogshit franchise.

It may be just my personal experience with the game but I have only ever spent money when a 5* is guaranteed and I have over 20 SSRs. Gacha certainly can be hell but I've never really experienced it. Heck, I had 300SQ for the summer banners and it got me NP2 Nero and NP2 Maid Alter.

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>Finally they surpass Shonen Jump

When the fuck will you learn proper English, SEA monkey?

>cumbrain
Crossboarder, you need to go back

Sad days we live in

fgo is f2p which means everyone already owns it. It doesnt even require you to roll anything since you can borrow other people's stuff and have them carry you

Yeah, that's where Fatelosers belong with their gachashit. Imagine unironically following a franchise that revolves around a waifu of the week microtransaction mobile game.

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>a plot driven VN with better story than FGO and sex scenes shoehorned that doesn't even take up 2% of the game nor revolves around the sex scenes
>has an all ages version anyway
>hurr durr it's just a p0rn gaem
here we go again

>c*mbrain

good job outing yourself

Except interludes, lines, and other content are locked behind paying. Which means the game is objectively P2W since actually accessing all of its content requires paying for a 0.7% chance at rolling a specific character.

Absolutely fucking disgusting. Will Fate rot ever die?

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All available on youtube should you want to view them

>p2w

this Yea Forumsermin anti-gacha crusade is really rotting your brain desu

Content is easily clearable even with a 3* party that can be obtained entirely for free

The only good thing that came from this franchise is all the cosplaying sissies

>gachashit vs shonenshit

Ebin. Can't wait for worldwide lootbox/gacha anti gambling laws.

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"Just watch it on YouTube bro" isn't an argument. In the context of the game itself you pay or miss out on content. Go back to /vg/ with your damage control you fucking loser.

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The fuck is this garbage list from? It makes zero sense.

I bet it's just a tiny part of the revenue.

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it has an anime and manga series. There's literally nothing you can say to move this franchise out of Yea Forums and let it continue its reign of dominance, lmao

based

Except it is. If you want to see specific content like lines or whatever you can see it on youtube. If you want to use a character you dont have in battle you can borrow your friend's one

Though if you want to put arbitary and imaginary bondaries as to why viewing the content on youtube is somehow different to viewing it in game, please by all means continue. Its enjoyiable watching you make a retard of yourself.

keyword there is anime, fate is a videogame

Reminder that Kadoc's Seiyuu NP5'd his Ana

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fgo is a F2P game, so strictly speaking, it's not generating any sales other than related manga and anime later down in the road

>If you want to see specific content like lines or whatever you can see it on youtube
YouTube isn't part of the game.
>If you want to use a character you dont have in battle you can borrow your friend's one
You can't use 2 of one character with support, meaning you objectively miss out on gameplay functions locked behind paying. There's no damage controlling your way around the fact that it's gachashit.
>bondaries
> enjoyiable
Of course the gachashit cumbrain also can't spell.

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Is there a good rip of the LB4 tree's fight theme?

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is that jordan peterson?

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Why haven't the mods banned this ESL spammer yet?

OP picture shows numbers in 億. Which means Fate made about 139 million $ on that list.

This is fucking nothing. Gundam makes 600-800 million per year. This is not entire revenue and anyone acting like this means Fate is #1 in revenue is a complete idiot.

>complain about not owning something because of youtube but turn around and read pirated manga online

shonenshitters don't even have a brain

>F-Fate is so cool bro muh WAYFOOS XDDD phone games are epic!!!! New banner this month bros her tits are HUGE!

Just kill yourselves and get out of Yea Forums.

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I don't play FGO but that sounds like you're talking about unlocking extra shit and that's not what makes a game pay2win

You realize the most difficult content in the game has been cleared by some chinese user using exclusively 1 and 2 star servants, right?

5* units aren't immediately better than lower rarity ones, often low rarity characters fill a niche better than a high star unit, and at this point in the game you need to build teams around a niche in order to clear content, slapping 6 5* units into a party isn't going to get you results

I'm not sure what OP's chart is for (merc maybe?) but FGO revenue was over $1b per year last time I checked

Characters are not extra shit. You literally play gacha games to get them. There is no other reason to do it.

sorry to break it up to you, but Fate last year mad more the 1.5 billion dollar (1.2 from fgo and the rest merch and HF)
pocketgamer.biz/asia/news/70240/sonys-fategrand-order-hits-3-billion-in-player-spending/

and currenty it's doing 700M so far this year (fgo only)

>no argument
I accept your concession. Cope more with your gacha garbage, loser.

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>sexual appeal BAD

And you can get those characters for free and use those free characters to complete the main game without paying a single dime.

jesus
>in comparison, the market intelligence firm estimates Fate/Grand Order's revenue is roughly equal to 50 million full-priced retail games.

He never said anything about clearing fights. Has your cumbrain been so rotted by gachashit that you can't read posts before replying to them?

I wonder much money Takeuichi and Nasu are actually getting from this

OP pic is my argument. You can keep coping with your reaction images, though

He called the game p2w, the fact that you can clear the entire game without rolling the gacha once proves otherwise

>SEA monkey
I despise FATEShit
don't lump me to this

It hit 3 billion by march this year. It was released in july 2015. Which means less than a billion per year and not even close to 1.5 per year.

OP pic is talking about something else like combined disc sales or something.

What does it feel to stand on the top of the Japanese Author both in franchise creation and writing capability?

>those characters

No you can get their inferior welfare versions for free.

While you are technically correct, this is a little disingenuous.

Having good 5*s like Merlin/Skadi/Waver etc makes the game a LOT easier to brute force and many 1/2 star strats rely on RNG quite a bit as bad crits/targeting can fuck you up.

Fate Grand Otaku VoiceActor member

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It ain't locked if I can watch some youtuber on it.

They are lucky if they get 1%. It belongs to Sony.

>avatarfagging
You can go back to wherever you came from now.

but it didn't do 1b every year

I'll just post last year then

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FGO is not pay2win, it's pay2waifu, learn the difference. It may save your life.

even 1% of fuckin 3 billions it's a lot of fucking money

Those 3 are for farming, not beating the game

Judging from some of the twitter posts of the VAs and Artists, it almost feels like they had to shell out more money to NP5 their characters than they were paid to voice/draw them.

Look at our own picture. This is the same number as OP so it's talking about monthly revenue. It's fucking nothing.

Is sales over a full year.

it's another Yea Forumsermin slaps as many negative buzzwords on something they don't like and ignorant about episode. Fate is just that good

It's really fucking disgusting that retarded celebs encourage people to throw thousands of $ at fucking sprites in a phone game.

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Apple (IOS) 25%
Google 25 (Android) 25%
TypeMoon 20%
Sony 20%
Dealight 10%

FGO earned $980m in 2017 and 2018 is here
Given it's increasing year on year and this year has had a bunch of popular banners so far, it could be even higher for 2019.

kinda like how people are forcing this image that mobile games are bad amirite

it did worse than last year so far, may/june was a real fucking problem and they will be lucky if they break even with last year, which i doubt

still I hope this will spark to actually do some fucking new content for their fucking game

>Sony
>not already full Disney

This is Official Revnue in 2018

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True, it's absolutely easier to mix in a few choice SSR servants. But they're not necessary. The fact that you can exclusively use 1-3* servants and CE's and still clear all the content directly opposes the thought of the game being pay to win.

Hell they just released a 2* unit that's making whales angry as fuck because he farms better than any 5* using the same setups they do

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>yuki.la/a/129519658
Quite the journey the game has made

Based

Imagine actually defending skinner box gambling for PNGs

fgo came out in 2015 and the main story is coming to a close. They're not doing any more other than maybe fgo2, more anime adaptations, or focusing on fgo arcade. Sucks to be on the NA server when it closes and they're 2 years behind lel

This summer event is pretty huge though.

Merlin banner + Musashi + All the characters on part 2 gonna hoover up a ton of cash.

Also, didn't the Maou banner do really well (despite how bad she is gameplay wise)?

Actual games on mobile are fine, gachashit isn't.

Nasu's already rowed back on this in a public interview and stated that he's planned a scenario that will allow the game to continue past lostbelts.

>Never because it's going to crash and burn like all shitty mobage.

this poor guy doesn't know that it's going to take a hot steamy turd on his favorite shonen

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Cope gacha insectoid subhuman

Feels good being a Fatechad. Inferior franchises can only seethe.

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what makes fate good anyway?

>you should let me get away with saying false things because mobage BAD

WHY ARE THERE NO ISHTAR RIDER DOUJINS

Mobile Game Market already surpass Video Game Market . Nasu is genius !!!

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>tfw this will never be as popular as Kancolle
>tfw there will never be loads of FGO doujins to fap to

Reminder that Fate already surpassed Zelda in overall profits

Because her normal version is somehow more lewd than her swimsuit version.

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>You will never go back to day 1 launch suffering watching DEEN stay night with other anons because the servers kept lighting on fire and AP took 10 minutes to get 1 back

but the one piece is lewd as fuck

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Will you avenge K*rito?

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Anime Network News Source

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Blessed Romani

FGO mobile stuff is usually filed with music and game departments not anime. So they don't count on that.

>shonenshitters don't even have a brain
OOOO Erza Nobu!!! CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME

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damn so many seething people in here

To be fair, he's a better character than the piece of shit of Kirito.

Who is the 5* on part 2? Is it Altria Bunny Ruler?

okita and melt

Feels good being a fatechad

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Assasin Okita and Lancer Melt are 4*

ShounenChads= Studs
>
FateSissies= NEET trannies

they're never around for the other titles with mobile games like princess connect, granblue, azurlane, or uma musume. Really makes you think

This
Also, it's Altria (Lion King) Bunny Ruler

What do you mean? Kancolle people fucking abhor Azur Lane

>he believed the mushroom for even a fraction of a second.

Honkai Impact collab with Fate or vice-versa when?

Because Azur Lane stole most of Kancolle's revenue and popularity by copying it's niche but doing much better and not shooting itself in the foot like Kancolle was. Plus the whole Chinese thing.

Most gacha games are fine

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>Stealing revenue
I'm not entirely sure but KC still has significantly larger doujin material at least, not that I care about it anymore since AL satisfies my fetish for blondes

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Dokkan is a huge money maker.

I can't imagine how much gundam would make if they made a decent gacha. I genuinely have no idea how they haven't managed.

CUMBRAIN

you werent supposed to post this

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There is a new gacha gundam game called gunpla warfare which is basically assets of old console game turned into mobage. Someone already spent 2000$ within around 2-3 weeks of its release

She's a better artist than Black and Takao, jesus.

Dokkan accounts for a lot of cash (about 400 million dollars last year, IIRC), but the DB franchise as a whole made over a billion dollars last year, and the gachashit game didn't get to where it is over night, it has close to 300 million downloads worldwide. I really doubt Gundumb has the kind of worldwide appeal that Dragon Ball has, so it definitely wouldn't catch up to Dokkan outside Japan.

Dragon Ball Heroes Arcade game surely bring cash too.

FateCHADs rise up!

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SnKCHADS and FATECHADS RUNS Yea Forums

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FGO is garbage even for gacha standards.

not one of those things is actually behind a paywall.

It's all the rage with kids, specially elementary and middleschoolers. It's a shame because it fucking sucks too and many of the kids playing it haven't and never will read or watch the original DB. At best, they've probably seen some DBShit episodes. This is such a monkey paw wish time to be a DB fan.

yikes

Why the fuck are nips so crazy over this garbage game? Plot sucks, gameplay sucks, there are so many better phone games on the market.

t. Lucklet

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Because fanservice in both appearance and meta lore. It's not that hard to understand

People won't throw thousands of $ at robot gacha. It needs waifus. They would need to create a completely new one full of female pilots in lewd suits.

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>easy to play
>does well in low connection areas
>easy content with a meta that doesnt revolve around pulls
>friendlist sharing actually means something
>frequent company/creator/fan interaction

you mean good for gacha standards

not really a surprise. basically everyone has a smartphone, not everyone has a PC/console.
on top of that, you don't need 1+ hrs of free time before it makes sense to boot up the game, you can just whip it out on the train and play for 10 minutes till you reach your station.

that says nothing about the quality but mobile games simply have a much larger potential audience

Seriously get help. It looks outdated as fuck and gameplay is shit. They don't even have moving sprites which is a fucking standard today. Compare this garbage to AGA or Magireco.

azur lane always has a bunch of people losing their shit because it's made by the chinks

Also, you can beat the entire game with low rarities. Most other gacha have a powercreep so bad units get useless in weeks.

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It was okay in 2015 now it looks like garbage compared to newer games.

>compare this to actully bad games
Damn, you are not even trying user.

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Unironical muh waifu-tier NEETS and incels spending money they don't have, and exploiting people with ludopathy. Once lawmakers catch up and regulate a lot of these gachashit insane practices, Fateshit is goingto crumble.

How do you know unless you live in Japan?

so im guessing there really isnt end game shit ?
you just play for story content and gacha pulls ?

The fact that you don't know for 4 years old game that make billions shows something is wrong with your intelligence.

>Plot sucks, gameplay sucks
Doesn't matter. Waifus + more Fate lore is more than enough to lure the masses.

>Tfw where the average fate female is way better than the best Shounen Jump females

Embarassing

>people won't throw thousand $ at robot
>
Can you even read?

China loves gundam.

Wew.

Just throw out collabs, put other franchise waifus in sexy pilot suits and design cool mobile suits for them.

Events have challenge quests and after Gawain in Camelot, there are difficult boss battles, but players tend to figure out ways to beat them with low rarities. The difference in stats between them isn’t that big and good supports and skills tend to matter more than that, which leads to absurd situations like two Asterios (lowest rarity possible) beating Beasts

One guy being retarded means shit.

Sure but we barely see it. Ishtar Summer's design is cute but leaves the sex appeal to her regular outfut

Yes, it's a game where you just play to kill time

It's going to crumble where..?

What do you mean with "end game shit"? There's challenge quests that require you to put some thought into it.

it's a turn based game. those just require strategy and if you're too much of a brainlet to figure out how to do it with weak servants you can just look it up online.
same how you could beat all of valkyria chronicle with nothing but scouts by just looking at online tutorials and never understanding anything about the game.

you don't need esports mechanics and ultra high graphics to make a good game. This why gamers are losing their minds over this

Apparently Muvluv is semi dying franchise. Not popular enough to keep its mobage/DMM game alive.

It's not a good game. It lives on waifus and you know that.

Nasu agree Shirou is a self insert, deal with it.

>but the one piece is lewd as fuck
my nigga

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He has never agreed this though

your mistake was responding to someone using "end game" unironically. End game is just a buzzword for content that requires gear checks and something most of the playerbase dont have access to

My brother

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Its such a shame that her artwork in game is her facing away from the camera and wearing that cape.

Her high cut one piece swimsuit is absolutely boner inducing but we can barely see it

I spent las summer in Japan as a tourist and went visiting a friend who worked at an arcade. I wanted to give the game a go since the home console version will never ever come out in my home country, but the DB heroes machines were basically full the entire time with kids who were either playing, or exchanging their cards while waiting for their turn, and my buddy told me it was basically like this every day in basically any arcade where it's present.

Gatcha is way too big of an industry to be sustained on neets alone.

There's shit ton of factors that include:

>Japanese people working punishing hours
>a culture of fucking around on your mobile while 'working' (partly due to said hours)
>relatively high disposable income because a lot of young people are single
>lack of stigma towards these types of gatcha games as they are popular on social media
>increased appeal as again a lot of them are single
>low ownership of gaming console/computers and universal ownership of good/decent mobile phones
>shit tons of advertisement for gatcha on their TV/public transport

Faggot I play this shit. Game is garbage and I will never understand why retards throw so much money at it. It's okay as some f2p time killer but anyone spending real $ on this is a fucking monkey with rotten brain.

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When you got people using money so they can NP5 a fucking 3* you know something goes beyond just simple waifufaggotry
Who could resist Hiroyuki Yoshino's voice though

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Your mom never agreed with you being born you faggot

He straight up called Shirou and Shiki self insert and said that the story requires to put yourself into them.

They fuck waifus, beat everyone and have a harem. Typical eroge protagonists.

I don't think dolphin teeth work like that.

It's not even in top50.

>Black, white, and gold
>probably my favorite color combination
>ruined by bright puke green cape

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It's a good game and the numbers reflect it. You're just embarassed because it's not the type of game you expected to be on top

you can just check google, it's pretty close

You might be autistic then if you still don't get it

>P2W
It's a single player game, what the fuck there is to win.

And if you don't want to spend money don't, use the free characters and you get like 300 quartz for free and tons of tickets to roll fo shit.

THAT'S NOT THE POINT HERE

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Have you ever taken a look at the broken mess that is Shirou's inner psyche? Being able to self insert into that would really tell something about your mental health.

i unironically like both plot and gameplay

>number 22 on google play
>appannie.com/en/apps/google-play/top/japan/game/
That's not even your top50 most intelligent post

>fgo ost
But why? The music's terrible and one of the weaker points of the game, believe it or not.

lol Shirou fags really think their self insert is somehow special

You flaunder your e-peen with NP5 5*. That's P2W social recognition

You can NP5 every 3* with enough friend points unless they're story locked.

Gross wise, of course. The rest of the IP doesn't cross 200 million revenue in a good year, and it produces several anime flops every year bankrolled by the gachashit kusoge (not directly, but everthing else is little more than publicity for it), so once policy makers crack down on this mess, we'll be free of the Fateshit adaptation galore all year round.

>Merlin/Skadi/Waver etc makes the game a LOT easier to brute force
You can just use the ones from your friendlist while using your own team of bronze servants though.

Izou is the only limited 3*

You could have stopped with the first point really, east asia, more even than the west. Has a problem of, as David Graeber puts it. "Bullshit Jobs."

People spend their time doing nothing but ritualistic time wasting and box checking. But they have to LOOK busy, so fucking about on your phone lets you do that. "Bullshit Jobs: and what we can do about them" is a very good book btw.

Literally the only thing of any worth are sluts and you could very well you go and fap to their fanart or doujins. Not to mention you can actually play every character from friend list.

People are throwing thousands of $ to have few more lines of dialogue in my room. Just go on youtube and watch them for fuck's sake. Nip salarymen are retarded.

At this point this is just gambling addiction. No wonder pachinko shit is so profitable in japan. Those salarymen are below dogs in intelligence.

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The promotional music are neat
youtube.com/watch?v=qTuHMW3R9Jg

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it already made more money than the entire zelda franchise ever has, even if it ends tomorrow fate has already won

arent you banking on this government regulation on videogames way too much? Mobile games arent going anywhere because they did nothing wrong

I agree - it's just Japan in particular has a perfect storm in terms of factors that allow mobage gatcha's to be this huge.

No, you are geting free quartz and tickets in game so you don't need to buy non-free quartz also I have over 10, 5 star servants with np bigger than 1 and I didn't pay any $ for them. Also Characters isn't only good thing in FGO. this game have really good story.

>pachinko success but with marketable characters
There you go, that wasn't so hard now was it?

To think that there isn't gonna be a big wave of digital gambling regulations eventually is fantasy. It'll happen, but when and how are up in the sky.

>this game have really good story

By far the worst out of any Fate.

True. Ban gacha and all mobage revenue will fall

Fuck off ESL

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Well he''ll be infinitely easier to pull than a 4* or 5*.

youtu.be/SNmvUOCDnkU?t=218

This really explains everything. It's mindblowing.

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ok well you can put your hopes and dreams on that day that will never come while fate continues to dominate the landscape

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Who said he is special? He is simply utterly broken beyond the point where a person can relate to him

[Citation needed]

I don't get what makes you so proud. You get nothing. Sony didn't even pay you.

Why do you allow a gacha game to live in your head rent free though?

>Finally
How is this a positive for anything, even for the franchise itself?
It just encourages them to keep putting 0 effort

I'm proud of having fun and not going on a videogame related crusade

Seething /tmg/ boomer

I get more Fate shows which I enjoy, funded by gacha money.

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Lostbelt 1 animated when

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You can play the game without paying at all retard. It's like saying you don't own a game just because you didn't buy every single dlc cosmetic on it or some shit.

Sasuga power of porn.

Fgo has a pretty great story after okeanos. You boomers can keep seethe about it.

I almost certainly play FGO more than you considering I've been JP and NA day 1.

I don't entirely begrudge it, but to pretend it's not gonna get looked at is ridiculous.

We still have yet to get Solomon anime, but since they show crypters in Ep 0 they most likely will make it at one point

Does it matter? once Masters drops I imagine it's going to blow past every other gacha.

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might be soon, might be ages away, considering they don't seem to care about chronology when it comes to adapting the story parts.

All phone games die after few years same will happen to this once new big thing appears.

But they do put efforts. Story is getting even more intresting since part 2 started. They recently add 7 new low star servamts. They are updating animations of the old servants every updates. They are often doing free quartz giveaways.

>type fate grand order roll
>watch reactions
>tfw I could never even dream to be this beta
Dear lord

I wish they used that gacha money to make good games instead of musou shit like Cygames. At least they're putting it into anime.

Gacha games makes money. Should I make gacha restaurant?

Something is wrong with the world and you let it happen. Imagine your 15 yo kid selling your house and your kidney to blackmarket because he wants those lewd sprite and pixels from gacha game.

The only bit of rational answer but that still makes you a consumer. Producer is higher level than consumer, no?

Exactly since London chapter story in FGO get really good and with start of part 2 it get even better.

Dunno now Ninty will manage that?
If Cygames manage that it will be more competent, longevity and top grossing.

Shingeki no Bahamut still lives probably around 7-8 years.

>thinking you can just dislodge people from their game of choice that easily.

>Imagine your 15 yo kid selling your house and your kidney to blackmarket
First things first ESL-kun, don't give your kid free access to your fucking bank account.

Why is it everyone else's fault that you lack self-control on your spending

>psychological exploitation is just a moral problem

Every time.

Didn't say it was easy to do, but if any franchise were to be able to do it, it's the highest selling media franchise of all time.

>everyone should be banned from [thing] because I'm too much of a brainlet to handle it
You should campaign for another prohibition.

How in any way do you benefit from gacha based models?

Means the game is free.

It's by DeNA.

Are there are no free to play games that don't use a gacha model.

its fateshit so of course its souless.
and everyone knows nasus a hack while takeuchi is busy samefacing everyone to saber.

Those are generally more cancerous because they implement fucking awful game mechanics that can only be skipped via microtransactions.

Tell that to RoB and other older generation gacha games. FGO already looks outdated as fuck.

I don't have problem with self-control or spending. I have a problem with gacha, lootbox, or anything like that. Condoning casino and the likes doesn't make it right.

Yes, just play solitaire or chess.

Keep acting contrarian. You surely show everyone your superior taste and intelligent while Nasu and Takeuchi got a CEO wage on Typemoon.

>games never make money from cosmetic transactions, only cancerous build time games exist.

Azur lane and other games practically don't have a gacha due to everyone floating so much shit. They make it all from skins.

get in the line of ''fgo killers'' please

>no free games that don't use a gacha model

already wrong. Sorry but the people that can't control their spending are the ones that are wrong and asking for govt regulation won't change that

I was sarcastically asking a question, when doing that in English it's often not accompanied by a question mark to show what you're doing.

Please refer to Not saying it's a certainty but, Pokemon's name definitely has the potential to

Pretty much this. I used to be the biggest TM fanboy bitch, but I could care less whether the company burns. I don't hate FGO, but I'm tired of every new series revolving around it.
I miss the KnK or Tsukihime days, but everyone knows they're never going back to those roots. Once you get a taste of cash, the only thing left is greed and cashcowing.

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This and Arknights can really damage the current top dogs.

>the most retarded person should be used as a guideline for what's acceptable to do and what isn't
I get where you are coming from and I thought like that when I was younger too, but you will never be able to save people from their own stupidity. If they want to engage in self destructive behavior, they will find new outlets for that faster than you can ban them.

Pokemon won't have thirsty lolis in micro bikinis though. It won't take the salarymen gambling tards but it can take other demographics.

Nah, you simply throw away your idealism and embrace realism. You are just some Archer. Not Shirou.

Not him and I don't disagree that Pokemon might have the potential, but they still have to deliver a game that's actually good enough to make people drop another one they invested so much time (and some money) into.
Star Wars and Warhammer were both franchises with the potential to hurt WoW and both spectacularly failed.

What about Pokemon Go business model?
Real Money for Pokeballs?

money =/ quality
but what do i expect from fgofags. keep acting like a fag while you suck on their ceo cocks. i could care less.

>you simply throw away your idealism and embrace realism
Yes, that's exactly what I said. Reality is seldomly nice enough to play along with your ideology. And this case is no exception.

Almost in the same position, while i like most of all new projects i think its sad that it pretty much feels like they forgotten their old fanbase and the stuff that made them famous in the first place

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keep telling yourself that. Again you still don't produce anything worth while Nasu and Takeuchi with their subpar quality writing already brought Fate Franchise to mega franchise top grossing in Japan.
Does it mean Nasu and Takeuchi is twice better than anyone with higher quality writing?

For me it’s by America that the story really starts getting good

Making a thread about how great the amount of money the franchise makes while ragging on those with no self control is pretty funny considering the intersection

>care less
>keep on insulting other people
>bringing nothing in this thread
It is better to turn off your pc and start learning something new. Your post is extremely low on quality.

True, how it plays will be important. From what I've heard from the people using Singapore accounts, it's definitely shaping up to be good, but we won't know how good that is until release. But even if it doesn't nothing lasts forever and I think it's good for people to remember that Fate and the other big dogs won't last forever, whether it be a month from now or a few years from now.

IMO there is not point in doing tsukihime remake if they don't want it or don't fell like doing it. Some times you have to move on and try something else like they did with Fate series.

the only thing you achieve by trying to save those who don't want to be saved is that they drag you down with them. helper syndrome is just another kind of self-destructive behavior

>mega franchise top grossing in Japan

It's not the top grossing franchise you absolute autist.

>nothing lasts forever
Obviously not, but a lot of the really big hits die off because people lose interest in that particular kind of entertainment and not because they were actively displaced by a competitor.
Only recent exception that would come to my mind is all the Battle Royal shit where you had a couple big names succeed each other.

What is this; Are they going to split the pgo player base with a Pokémon gacha?

Holy shit you are retarded. Are Avatar and Endgame the best movies ever made? FGO makes money due to salarymen with gambling addiction this says shit about it's quality. They are just wasting money on their phones instead of going to pachinko parlors.

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Should I iterate it as top grossing mobage?
Nasu is kind of genius on par with Anno considering the amount of materials he produced, each material can bring the entire franchise up or down and leave a bad taste on its consumer.
I think top grossing franchise in Japan is Hello Kitty or Pokemon according to few threads ago.

Dragonball Franchise- $24.3 billion
One Piece- $21 billion
Yu-Gi-Oh- $19.8 billion
Naruto- $10.1 billion
JoJo- $9.8 billion
Bleach- $7.24 billion

Yeah I think they'll do just fine

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Fair enough. Either way I'm not saying it's a guarantee that Masters will overtake everything, but if it's game play is well received, it most likely will.

wow you really don't get that argument huh? no wonder you are a fgofag. i love how you keep comparing a random user to those hacks just to make them sound more grand in the scheme of things. hows that ceo paycheck semen taste like?
your post is extremely cringe inducing. please just turn off your brain and fuck off.

The Yea Forumsnons don't talk about games like Jump Force or such over here either, so that's not an argument to make for talking about FGO, which is a game, hence:
or

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Top Grossing, yes.
Best, probaly according to different subjective individuals.
The point is there is a reason those salarymen are not going to pachinko or any other mobage but FGO.
If FGO has bad writing and it makes money, then the author and whatever production team he has is great.
Imagine working as hard as the author of that Deaf Girl Manga and Anime but her work is not even recognized and win top tier award compared to other author that retells the story of WWII.

people talk about what happened/will happen in the anime and manga here until some Yea Forumsermin anti-mobage crusader comes and shits up the threads

You can't even convince one user to turn off his brain and fuck off. How bad and low can one person get?

>shonentards vs fatetards
the absolute state of Yea Forums

says the guy that can't make me turn off my pc. how much of a faggot can one faggot be? oh the irony~

>be me
>won internet argument on Yea Forums
Feels good.

imagine shonentards shouting on top of their lungs thinking they're powering up but can't stop fate, with its sexy and cute girls, from emasculating them effortlessly

He's a dude with a harem who goes full chuuni, he's the perfect self insert for eroge players

Too bad the archive is dead. It's the same interview he explains Mahōtsukai isn't about projecting yourself into the characters unlike FSN and Tsukihime.

Why should we care that it's doing well? Games are Yea Forums's problem, they're the ones seething about gacha. The only thing Yea Forums should care about is the upcoming anime and rarely trranslated manga.
I fucking swear shounentards get defensive as fuck whenever someone even tries to imply that no one aside from them suck Toriyama, Oda and Togashi's cocks.

I think you didn't get my point. I was talking about Fateshit, not the industry as a whole. While every single gatcha having outliers that spend more cash than they should in the game is an estatistical certainty, FGO is notable because some whalers spend absurds sums of money encouraged by the developer's shady practices. There's no way the game could leech that amount of money otherwise, because let's get real, it didn't get to where it is because of its quality as a story or being beloved by general audiences.

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Dunno, Fate discussions after the Ep 0 aired were actually engaging. I daresay more people than you think are invested in the story as a whole.
And they're not /alter/ I've seen /alter/ and they're unable to not shitpost.

finally nips are becoming subhuman again

The majority of FGO players are on their teens and 20s. They take surveys on this. Aka young people with high income due to parents/work.

The thing about FGO which a lot of people miss is that you do get a lot more for your money than most gacha games (in theory).

>3 different sprites with sprites for new JP servants among the best in current non-3D gatcha
>4 different art splashes (though 3 of them are varations on a base)
>Two or three different sets of attack animations at the very least - some SSRs have this PER sprite
>Fully animated NP animation that's far beyond most other gatcha's equivalent - some SSRs have multiple unique NPs based on their sprite
>unique craft essence (item) with another art splash
>a large bio on the servant and said CE
>15-30 minutes worth of unique voice acting
>outside a few specific comps for NP looping, one copy of the SSR is enough

Compare this to something like FEH where the 5*s don't usually have ANY unique animations and have a tiny amount of voice acting and it's a pretty stark difference.

Even better run games like GBF, Dokkan, DL etc don't come close to the content given in FGO.

It also helps that some of the later chapters of part 1 and a couple of the lostbelts actually have a really good story on part with a proper mini-VN. It's just a shame that it seems like Nasu's direction is basically required for a story chapter to be any better than average.

With that all said, 1% SSR is still abysmal, there's no safety net for Luck Rank E and they are pretty stingy towards F2Ps. So take it as you will.

KanColle doujins were higher quality anyway.

You are forgetting that a lot of the other games often require multiple copies of a character and possibly also equipment. A 1% chance to roll a character that will most of the time be usable out of the box with a leveling system that does not involve grinding is sufficiently generous.

Based.

>I fucking swear shounentards get defensive as fuck whenever someone even tries to imply that no one aside from them suck Toriyama, Oda and Togashi's cocks.
I was agree with you until your post became homoerotic.
What do shounentards have to do with FGO?

Guess who has been complaining about Fate in this thread?
Hint. Look for the shounen pics.

That and Idolmaster are my favorite doujins to read. There's always a cool girl to pick as a favorite with enormous harem franchises.

Idolmaster doujinshis had some quality artists back 'em up. KanColle ended up having so many good artists making work for them I even got into the non-H shit and found plenty of stories better than official mangas and the anime for KC. Granblue would probably be my next favorite series for doujin but it needs more entries in general.

They squandered all their profits on Last Encore, Apocrypha, the inaccessible Case Files adaptation, and those Heaven's Feel movies nobody watches. Which is a shame, because FGO is basically an insanely excellent character factory that could facilitate all sorts of stories across a variety of mediums, but it's just so poorly handled

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>he as much as noticed the dolphin
Gay.

noticing the dolphin is less gay that paying attention to that mangled rhino-faced sidemouth dislocated shoulder creature

>last year was the saint and dolphins
>this year is Melt and penguins

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True

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When I was younger, I thought doujins were small pocket-book sized things like regular manga. I wasn't expecting them to be such wide-format productions.

Too bad most of the girls in kancolle are shit

This negro kwow it

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London*

>Gatcha whaling
God I fucking hate FGO the game and the community around it. The only good thing to come from it are the doujins.
Fuck f2p games in general. Absolute cancer.

It's not as easy as that. Unlike say, manufacturing alcohol, gachashit actively engages in fraud even by nip standards by running its bussiness as essentially gambling, without submitting to gambling laws because of technicalities. Fateshit going down the crapper due to what's actually stopping a crime is not a matter of what or why, but when.

Why do you hate it?

>They squandered all their profits
HAHAHAHA!

>inaccessible Case Files adaptation, and those Heaven's Feel movies nobody watches
Holy retard

It's gambling but without the regulations. But the winnings are digital goods.
I feel insulted such things can even be considered video games.

Just the destroyers and submarines.

My bad, this was meant as a reply to

This is what Fateshitter brainlets are unable to comprehend. Look at this list
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises
And tell me where the fuck is Fate as a whole compared to the shounen it supposedly surpassed. It's never going to get to that level, illegal gambling or not, but that doesn't change the fact that it's absolutely fraudulent with it's current bussiness model, on top of being an insult to legit videogames.

Fate peaked in 2004 with this scene, everything after this is garbage.
I say this as someone who only got into this shitheap last year.

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>pay exorbitant amounts of money to devs
>get a half-assed animated gif as a reward
>"WOOWohOOO FUck YEAH that's MY waifu!!!!"
>proceed to play cookie clicker game for hundreds of hours
>repeat
such great fucking games!
anyone who plays gacha games unironically needs to seek help. if you've already started making regular purchases toward one, you're already lost.

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That was the point, you retard. She sent Raita her measurements because she wanted to be a servant. Even Shuten's personality is literally drunk Yuuks, according to all her friends asked

It's surpassing shounen in terms of gaming revenue
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_video_game_franchises
But that's not something shounen tries to compete in.
Not to mention $3.4 billion of its $3.486 billion revenue is from FGO. Beating shounen games by running an unregulated casino is not something to brag about.
And I say this as someone who loves Nasuverse.

>She sent Raita her measurements
SOURCE. NOW.
I fucking need to fap so hard.

>There is mountains of TypeShit to go through before they'd even begin to consider to adapt a shitty mobile game.

why japs keep wasting their money on this shit?
honest question.

it's your typical gacha shit but with rul63 historic characters, literally don't see the appeal and i played the VN.

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Most people playing don't give a shit about the source material
Pretty girls

quit getting mad at successful videogames like fgo

because it's a good game and westerners will never understand gacha and mobage culture

Let's be fair, Assassin's Creed doesn't deserve to be there, or Candy Crush

Literally look up Shuten and the Yuuks height and weight. Both are 145cm/46kg

The original lore is still there and it's quite interesting.

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>biggest franchise ever
>console video games sell millions
>make billions of dollars every year
>soon more mobile games that will make billions more

fatefags are small time compared with the real king.

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There's a lot of reasons why people spend money to roll, ranging from nostalgia, emotional attachment to the characters, cute girls, cool guys, to the loss aversion you experience from not having the character for yourself. And even though the rates are bad, the fact that Aniplex keeps making each successive Fatefes better and announcing more fate projects every year also feels like the gacha money is going somewhere.
Babylonia and the Grand Temple of Time are also fucking kino.
youtu.be/8JwKw3NzY1Y

>Fate beats Zelda in revenue
Sometimes I fucking hate the free market

Dude it's gambling with pretty anime girls and more plot than other gatcha games. Looks like that's a winning formula.

That's legit. I'm gonna put on Shuten's voice lines, read some Shuten doujin and fap hard.

>quite interesting
I think you mean "incredibly uninteresting".
Timeline pruning garbage has only been a thing since the shitshow that is Extella, and every Extra derived series is straight up Sci-Fi and also fucking shit.
The fact that Nasu is forcing his gay new ideas from it into FGO shouldn't come as a surprise.

FGO isn't even the same genre as Stay Night.
Stay Night is Modern Fantasy and FGO is straight up Science Fantasy.
It's a shitty cashcow of a once decent series.

Fuck what the Nasuverse has become.

Based

mad af lmao

>Fuck what the Nasuverse has become.
You mean Notes?

because otaku culture is fucking hilariously pathetic. they just put all their money toward anything with cute girls in it. it doesn't matter how low effort it is. if it's cute to them, they'll pay.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_video_game_franchises

>skylanders made more money than fate

OHNONONONO how can fate faggots and nasu live with this and not kill themselves?

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As a lolicon bless them and I wish for their continued success.

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Based and lolipilled

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fgo wishes it had a gameplay as good as hk3

>thread hates fgo because casual fate fans are "normies"
>brings up otaku culture as the reason to why it's doing so well

????

Yep, I was thinking the same. The only thing I know about Fate is that it was a porn game back in the day

I mean, Lostbelts are significantly better than Singularities, better this than what we had before at least.

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>you mean Notes
No I don't mean Notes you colossal faggot.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they just retcon Types completely. Extra already deleted Type-Moon to make way for a stupid Moon PC.

Nasu is a hack who can't keep a story going in the same universe so every fucking entry is now off in it's own world because he's that fucking inconsistent. At least we know Shirou will never become EMIYA because NOTHING INTERESTING IS EVER ALLOWED TO HAPPEN IN THAT TIMELINE AGAIN.

fgo has better gameplay because it's doing better

also, it's not chinese

Bless you too brother.

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>fgo has better gameplay because it's doing better
dumbest take in the thread

>"this garbage is actually marginally better than the shit we've been eating guys!"
>"wow! Comparatively, it's like I'm actually enjoying a good story!"

Yeah, basically.

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>nonono my autism keep it in the same universe!
>I need structure and a unified ruleset!
>worldbuilding is more important than anything

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better than "x is better because I feel like it"

i have no idea what you're talking about, and while you clearly know nothing about Japan's audience,
>casual fate fans
>casual
i don't even think you know what you're saying yourself.

That sounds very Yea Forums of you user. Should you go back?

these fucking retards dont know that these shitty rules are what's holding the franchise and content creation back

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Nah, fgo has really casual gameplay, no need to tryhard. thats one of its selling point

seems you got caught in a conundrum and try to put the blame on someone else

Yeah, but trash is still trash.
The fact you were stuffing your face with faeces just before moving to eating garbage doesn't make it any better.
>not wanting a consistent universe where the author actually has to follow some sort of rules instead of just pulling whatever he wants out of his ass because "lol alternate timeline haha!"
I mean, I know it's Fate and would find a way to break those rules anyway, but at least it would actually have to find an explanation within the bounds of it's own internal logic instead of "whatever it's a different world ok."

It just reeks of lazy writing.

>shitty rules holding the franchise back
Oh fuck off, Nasu hasn't followed any of his own rules since he replaced Type-Moon with an omnipotent copy of Microsoft Windows and gave a Sakura clone Admin powers.

No crossboarder is illegal. You don't wanna send me back like Roland Hump now do you?

Pretty sure I can call what you like trash as well and I'd have solid reasons as well. Why even bother? We like what we like.

I mean Type-Moon has to exist considering Arcueid does in Extra.

No, a logical consistency for a book is important but I don't care if the author wants to write something different in another story. I judge stories by their merits, which won't necessarily be good. I didn't like the original extra as much as fate.
This nonsense about forcing every story into one world is just your autism speaking, I want you to realize that. It doesn't affect a normal person's enjoyment one bit.

A story should be consistent, but the author can write different stories with different rules and have them all be good.

Why are you acting as if the developers of this game even care about anything? It's a cashcow, and everyone knows it. Even if Nasu were to still care about the series (which he doesn't), you're delusional to think he's the one "writing" the series at this point.
It's a game made to make money. "Lazy writing" doesn't even begin to describe how fucking terrible it is.

You don't know what I like though, meaning your statement is a baseless assumption.
Just like every Gachashitter's argument.
Fucking baseless.

>w-well I like it!
Grow up. It's objectively bad with little to no production quality despite grossing billions.

The alternative is to never grow out of the VN and never produce anything. I bet you get angry because F/UC followed a different story. VN-only idiots arent real fans

Have you ever stopped to think that if that many people like it, maybe, just maybe it's you the one with shit taste?

The Arcuied thing was retconned into a non canon Easter-Egg
Please don't question it.

>forcing
Nobody's pointing a gun to your head to throw your paycheck down the drain rolling for your waifu. Practice some self control. I tried playing fgo and the gameplay is like a poker rpg with low budget animation and repetitive battles. I uninstalled it because I was only interested in camelot and babylonia stories.

i hate how it's come to the point that posts like this actually sound serious

>popularity = good
Hahaha
Jesus Christ, I was unaware that the Big Mac is the gratest meal on Earth, crafted perfectly to create the ultimate culinary delicacy.

But dead apostles also exist because apparently they were the ones who performed the ritual that dried up the Earth's mana, so type-moon should exist too. Why should he be mutually exclusive with the moon cell?

>don't judge me because you don't know me!!
>argues based on gacha game stereotypes

why is fgo so good

Gacha is just Pachinko for young people. Once you realise this truth, everything start making sense.

Because it's outright stated that the Moon Cell and Type-Moon can't co-exist?
God, fuck Extra.

>Food analogies.
Yep, thought so.

That was entirely speculation. The ones who performed the ritual that dried up the world's mana were human magi.

>it's not good because I feel like it
very nice

>popular=good
the classic

Well they can't. In EXTRA, the moon is a giant supercomputer. Ultimate Ones can only form on actual, natural celestial bodies.

twitter.com/gm_1o7/status/1160938100044029953 (embed)
>Loli Vinci's profile clarifies that FGO world is currently dying due to Overcount 1999
(TL of that part: Having lived through hundreds upon millions of years, this planet is on its deathbed. / O children, who were given a mere tens of a millennia for evolution. / Do grant unto this dying star a final dream. / At that small, yet ever brilliant, conclusion of childhood.)

>According to Last Encore's official website, it's caused by the damage to the nucleus of the Earth's soul.
(TL of Overcount 1999 entry on LE website:
A mysterious phrase, mentioned by Twice.
Per a decisive depletion of resources, the era where began the decline of Man.
Its cause is unclear.
The resources of the Earth, theoretically beyond the consumption of man, came to depletion; the [capacity] by which life could be sustained was from the World lost.
Upon its Core (?, kaku) -- what could be called its very soul -- did the Earth sustain damage; or so he stated, but...)

>Chaldeas is the replica of the planetary body of Earth by utilizing the soul of the Earth as a foundation.
>Sheba was created in 1999

Also regarding the mana depletion in Extra timeline, there's a part in Last Encore scriptbook
>The name is XXXXXX. That is the cause of the stagnation of human history in Extra world.
And coincidentally Marisbilly's name in JP fits that part.

Disney unironically has more soul than Fate/shit

Still less dumb than the Popular=Good cliche.
I mean, I could argue that Heart Disease is great instead, if you would prefer.

Nigga the planet is on its deathbed because it's about to be fucked up by the Crypters. EXTRA and FGO are two separate things.

I hate how this game makes me so hard and angry at the same time. Not that I have played FGO, but it's so dumbed down from the Fate installments that came out before it, and at the same time I want Scathach to step on me.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I literally play the game mute 99% of the time.
The few times I listened to the soundtracks it was nothing to write home about.
Granblue OST shits all over every other gacha's.

Extra and FGO are still both shit though.
Fucking Sci-Fi retardation.

>I don't like it = bad

Not him, and unapologetic FGOfag here, but you'll hear all the time in film making and animation classes the debate on whether something popular=good, and the answer is simply no. FGO has plenty bad and good going for it. I had to slog through garbage like Septem to get to the absolute kino that Babylonia and Tiamat was. It's alright if it doesn't cater to his taste, nor does it make his tastes bad because he doesn't like the direction a franchise takes.

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>game
kek

>Babylonia
>good
also
>actually playing the shitty game instead of just watching Youtube videos of the shit you actually wanted to see
Wow
I'm sorry but you might be stupid.

if gbf is so good, why isn't it doing well? Is this one of those "i feel like it therefore it is"?

what is the appeal of fate

user, it's objectively one of the worst installments in the series and is even bad in comparison to fellow Gachashit games nowadays, it's a stagnant mass of filth and garbage.

I want to go back to a simpler time.

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comparing a book publisher’s worth to a casino?

what the

If FGO is so shitty how its doing so well?

you can apply this to any media. You might be a dumb Yea Forumsermin, sorry

Why did you post Rasputin?

the porn is good, I'm okay with it

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If smoking is bad for you how is it making so much money?

What is in 5th place?

majority of people don't like seeing the same 3 VN routes being recycled over and over

user, if something is an hour long slog just to get to something tolerable, you may as well either skip the slog or not bother at all.

Same reason Flies buzz around dog shit

Seriously why is Yea Forums always so enraged and offended by FGO?

Give me some solid arguments, if anything thanks to FGO TypeMoon is alive and making more anime than ever before

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gundam

Amazing how that applies to us and this thread.

It's true for Merlin and Waver but not Skadi, you need your own + a support one to get it working.

guess who is free and who is the 5* whale botton

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Man FGO is nothing too special overall but all you losers can't even form a proper argument as to why you think it'd bad beyond "X concept in the story is trash because I don't like it".

Learn to argue, invertebrates

it's Yea Forums and /tmg/ teaming up for incoherent rambling of something they don't understand

>REEEE
>Grow up!
>It's "objectively" bad!
Kill yourself.

It's a typical Faustian Bargain.
Fate is now getting more anime but is tarnished forever and continually spits on it's own lore for the sake of attracting more normalfags.

Nasu as an author only ever wrote decent shit when he was poor as fuck and clearly in a bad place.

Musashitters forever btfo

FgoCHADs always winning and Yea Forumsustics being BTFO to the oblivion, as always. Keep coping KEK.

Mix of shounenfags who get triggered every time it's mentioned that gachashit earns more than their franchise and the old type moon guard who blame FGO for there not being a Tsukihime 2, despite being clear that Nasu doesn't intend to deliver.

there's no point in arguing in the first place because the game is a fucking gacha game.

I think the only one who should kill themselves is the one spending his hard earned cash on PNGs and voice lines.

I normally hate that word, but it's clearly a soulless cash-grab.

trash anime*
Type-moon peaked last decade.

You just described everyone that has ever bought a vn.

2d sprites BAD

VNs are like 30$ on average, not the entire payment of a car, college degree

Absolutely based, fate anime’s are the best animes

Haven't played the game, but for what I've seen in the OVA and the last episode it does look interesting. Is it really that bad compared to all the shit of previous installments? I mean, even Fate/Zero had its share of retarded moments.

Bro I hate to tell you this but anime is just consecutive pngs with voice lines too.

again, is this based on your feelings? What metric of measurement are you using with this statement

youtube.com/watch?v=R_hbo6OyYKc
youtube.com/watch?v=VvQh4Yml6m4
youtube.com/watch?v=Gom8AtOVhzY

So does that mean that everyone who buys digital manga should just go die since in their case they're not even getting voice lines but just pngs?

Except with a VN you're paying to read a story you spastic, not rolling an especially fucked up slot machine.
Nothing wrong with 2D sprites, what is wrong is having 2D sprites with only a single body position and maybe 4 or 5 different faces

and fgo is free. There goes your argument

Kek, you aotfaggots wish, go leech somewhere else with your dead shitty series

It's non stop retardation, user. It just shits on everything for the sake of Rule of Cool.

>The CGI King vs the hand-drawn King

The first half of arc 1 goes nowhere due to a lack of direction. Most people will tell you that it doesn't really start picking up until the 6th singularity.

2019
i'm still the only persona that like america

>Nothing wrong with 2D sprites, what is wrong is having 2D sprites with only a single body position and maybe 4 or 5 different faces

this is still almost every VN

Well, those are some pretty fucking shitty VNs then.

>4 years
Is there any mobage that can reach this far?

Fate is multimedia franchise not just a videogame one, and as such, it's never going to catch up to to the likes of Dragon Ball or One Piece. The vidya point is just moving the goalpost (and failing since it's still below DB), but more importantly, we're in agreement that bragging about how much money you're leeching off people with genuine issues through extremely ethically and morally questionable means is nothing to celebrate.

starlight stage came out at around the same time and it's still going

>because everyone is stupid but me!

I honestly don't see how that differs from the rest of Type Moon entries starting from Tsukihime. For what I understand you just learn to accept outlandish shit as fact and run with it.

The original plan for FGO was for Nasu to just write the prologue, endings, the beginning and end of each Singularity and all of Roman's dialogue, as well as a couple limited events, with Higashide and Sakurai taking care of everything in-between. Nasu would simply feed them important plot points to add in each Singularity without getting too heavily involved. Turns out, that was a bad idea. Nasu probably wasn't supposed to write any of the Singularities himself, but he had to step in when fans started revolting, so he ended up writing Camelot and Babylonia, as well as getting more involved with the stuff he doesn't write.

Camelot, Babylonia and Solomon > any LB. Japan agreed.

boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/241544270
Reminder: the first /fgog/ thread.

People seem to like Yuga Kshetra though.

What OVA? First Order or episode 0? First Order was kind of bland in direction but I agree episode 0 was good (Nasu did the screenplay so).

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Go to bed Gramps

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It's horribly written shit that's fanservice and 4th wall breaking toilet humor 2/3 of the time.

Yes it does get okay at rare occasions but most of the game is pure fanservice of the lowest kind.

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Oh no no, a vampire "princess" who is the earth falling in love with this ugly looking nip kid who just murdered her is super realistic high lit bro!

>but he had to step in when fans started revolting
lmao what is this revisionist history? Nasu jumped in when people were saying "this is awesome, we want more! less wyverns, more plot please!". Nasu started writing heavily because people actually wanted STORY out of a mobage, which literally everyone who had worked on mobage before would have predicted was bullshit and could only possibly have happened with Fate. There was no 'revolt'.

>swimsuit archer

pretty good if you can get past the rather slow start desu
story is great after that
shitting on things for rule of cool is what fate has always done
even the original VN establishes multiple rules of the universe only to break them rather than reinforce them

They wish their favorite series was as relevant

>Yea Forums
>refuses to play FGO
>can't keep track of all the new lore
>becomes the new secondaries

>average FGO player
>experiments from first hand Nasu's new lore and evolution of the TM world
>becomes the primaries

>moefag crying about fanservice and shitty humor
Oh the irony

Yeah, but not as much as those three.

Yea Forums has unironic isekai threads so I was pretty confident our tolerance for shit was high.

>20$ for a full game with all characters
>2000$ for one waifu

Are you fucking serious?

I'm not sure of what's worse. Idol fags or Gacha cucks

Seething shounencucks

>new lore and evolution

Saber/Jannu:

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We’ve done it FGOchads. Now time to dominate the whole of Yea Forums. In a few years time there will be nothing but threads discussing Fate only.

>those fps drops

Truly amazing. Game from 2015 that slows down on brand new 8 2Ghz core phones with 4Gb ram. Truly worth all the money.

Like seriously I play a dozen phone games and half of them has many times better graphics and runs without and fps drops. But not this spaghetti code garbage.

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Considering that Yea Forums's consensus is that the board's quality went to shit when Naruto threads were allowed, I'll guess that the most hated group in Yea Forums are shounenfags.

>Yea Forums has unironic isekai threads

Half of those threads are always people shitting on isekai.

>Like seriously I play a dozen phone games
They probably look like shit.

>Dragon Ball beats FGO
Oh crap I missed that in my rage. Thank God for that. DB games were decent at least.

CGDCT shows don't have battles and saving the world. FGO wants you to take this shit seriously then throws Septem and gacha jokes at you.

And the other half is people defending them. Remember when people unironically defended Overlord?
You sound from Yea Forums. You aren't from Yea Forums are you user?

>I never played anything else so FGO da best!

Yeah, that's FGOtards alright.

>In a few years time there will be nothing but threads discussing Fate only.
It already happened in the mid 00s when everyone was harassing mirrormoon for the UBW translation up until HF's release

At least the material was good

anyone getting mad over fgo's rise in success and popularity

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>run out of spin-offs to adapt
>game gets replaced by next big gacha

Enjoy those few years since it will de bead sooner than you think.

>I play dozens of games
>refuses to show a vid showcasing their animation or give names
Seethe harder.

Idol shows don't make money from suicidal gambling addicted salarymen who unironically need professional help.

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tfw you remember in that post Hollow lull when type moon was releasing kusoge like F/UC and Tiger collosseum

Post cute FGO pictures to celebrate.

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>the kusoge never ended
hurts

Faggot even Azur Lane or AGA look and run many times better. And compare the garbage unvoiced static sprites in FGO to Magireco.

yes they do you retard

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa

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imagine actually thinking this is true
idol shows have been bankrupting and murdering japs for decades now

Shonenfags aren't being unironically scammed out of their money, though. Whenever they aren't pirating the shit they like, they actually pay for what's being offered to them without subterfuge or small printing. Gachafags aren't just retards with shit taste, but also unironically cucks.

In the end it all boils down to dozens and dozens of shallow servants and alternate costumes [OMG big titted Artoria (whose idea was to call her Altria by the way) with a Playboy Bunny costume!!!] for them. I can't deny I fap to them all, but there is nothing to the characters besides this. Hollow Ataraxia was full of fanservice but it still felt like a genuine, well written experience.

>any of the bamco idolm@ster mobile games
>love live games
>not a money maker

big yikes

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>Fate was a barely translated VN
>Other TM works were kinda popular
>HA was still holded hostage
>Yea Forums praised Nasu and TM non-stop
>Acted elitist as fuck about the lore and discussion

>Fate opens up
>The main lore distribution is now FREE via smart phones
>Even got an English localization
>More anime adaptations
>More movies
>More manga
>Now anyone can get into Fate and keep up with the lore
>In fact you need to play FGO to keep up
>Yea Forums hates Fate and TM now

Yea Forums is just hypocrital.
You hate Fate and Nasu for opening up, making money and making the franchise more friendly, successful and bigger.
This is just about losing your secret club elitism and imaginary "TM sage" status

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cute clae

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>Azur Lane
>AGA
Those look like shit. At least try.

Soon Kingu animated.

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I haven’t spent a single cent on fgo, I’ve only bought fate merch which is what every anime fan does, cope more that your fave series is irrelevant next to fate

Reminder that Gudako is better.
>No unnecessary romance
>Cute

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They are nowhere near as jew as FGO. You retards really need to understand that not all gacha is equal.

There's a good amount of people who still like Fate, just look at how many threads about it made daily. It's just not for everyone.

can't wait for some yuu kobayashi

idolshit is unironically most cancerous thing in the world
both IRL and 2d

unfortunately this

Not him, but I would at least like Live2D stuff on final ascensions.
youtu.be/WNg-4aq-L0E

youtube.com/watch?v=oJrmXVNH7Ug

Try harder fatetard. Your game is literally 5 years behind on fucking chink bootleg game.

Yeah, but at what price? For every Fighterz or DB fusion that gets made, there's who knows how many Xenoverses, DB Heros and Dokkan battle. It's not like Dokkan itself isn't a gigantic sham exactly like FGO and other gachashit, you know?

>tfw been here from the start and enjoying everything
People gotta learn to take it easy. Treat Fate/Grand Order's main story like F/SN, treat events the same way you treated Kagetsu Tohya and Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, and it's fun as fuck.

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The guys that make kancolle doujins also make fgo ones.
Artists go to where the money is

FGO retards are celebrating this shit for years. Because stealing money from people with psychological issues makes it the best anime ever or something.

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Yes, but I saw the two episodes and liked them. Regardless of how bad the game is, if the main story, which is what I understand the anime is going to adapt, is good, should Yea Forums really care?
Because all the complaints I've read here so far were either aimed at the game, the whales or complaints that shit on all of Type Moon, not just Fate.
Half are saying the story is shit, while half say the story is good but both refuse to elaborate. Can anyone make a decent argument without involving Yea Forums?

>and then MHX shows up in the final singularity

>Dokkan battle.
>DB gacha
Et-tu DB? Just fucking kill "video games".

Better than who? but yes I agree

I don't hate Fate I hate FGO. Like seriously, anyone defending FGO writing is clinically retarded. First 3 singularities are the worst shit T-M ever did.

Only good thing from FGO are some good designs. But at the same time we also get plenty of trash designs.

The only issue with the story is that - unlike Shiro - Gudao is truly a blank slate (worse than Sieg). No inner monologue or goals. This works in the game but the anime team needs to do something about that.

Why should I not celebrate being rich?

Based and Chaospilled

starlight stage's rates are lower and you can't have someone's idols carry you through content like fgo. No one's getting ripped off here. People are aware of the chances of getting anything but still roll because they want to

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Why do Septem and Okeanos get shit on when London and America are just as bad? London is the most boring shit I've ever read. You only like it because it's set in muttland.

Only one getting rich on Fate is Sony you retard.

Wasn't the big titty girl the protagonist?

You can choose either ingame but the adaptations go with the guy version.

Drown in your ideals and die, faggots.

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Trash Heap Andromalius was fanservice too. They appear there and nowhere else, so yeah, it's the same as seeing Neco-Arc in Melty Blood.

>dog poop is better than camel poop

>This works in the game but the anime team needs to do something about that.
>Babylon trailer
>Gudao: I'LL CAN'T STOP HERE! I'LL NEVER GIVE UP!!!
Looks like the anime did fuck all about it and sadly this is what's gonna ruin the anime.

I'm pretty sure Archers aren't supposed to be next to each other life that.
EMIYA why don't you pull out Kanshou and Bakuya, you attempt to use them in every other situation even when they aren't appropriate at all and you have dozens if not hundreds of weapons more suited to any situation than your boomerang swords.

Girl is like 10x more popular but anime always goes with the dude for some fucking reason.

>America
>As bad as the previous four singularities.

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>fanfic furry Cu
>not shit
stop it, you'll make me die of laughter

Are you Nasu/Sony/Tencent?

This is why I don't even care about it. At least if they went with Gudako there would be another cute girl. Gudao is garbage and it's 100% obvious he will be a super generic self insert with zero personality beyond being nice.

So just like Shirou then?

user might be talking about mash, if they meant gudako then as a gudakofag i do wish they went with her but gudaos a cutie so I’m ok

You only pretend to like it because you are a burger.

Can't you see his smug smile? He has her right where he wants her.

>you'll make me die of laughter

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Don't worry, he knows what he's doing, he has EoTM (True) B.

At least Shirou is autistic and has unorthodox worldview. Gudao is just a haremshit protagonist #84733487349837.

Yes but why hasn't he got his fucking swords out.
I'm starting to think EMIYA doesn't take things seriously like he should.

Japan doesn't treat lesbians seriously so having a lesbian relationship front and center "isn't appropriate for a serious work".

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I don’t even like shirou but he’s better than most shounen protags if not all of them

>dude for some fucking reason.
Self-insertfags. Otakus love to self-insert and since there's Mash and a couple of other female servants who are into (You) it has to be the guy for these people.

FGO Fans love gudako and she’s more popular, honestly there’s no reason for them to not have used her at least for camelot

2.5 looks like shit.

shadowverse animations are shitte

The only event that "happens" is Dantes'. It's even now a fixture purchased because is story related. The rest are "IF."

What about CCC?

That doesn't address the point I raised.

Roman was a faggot and I'm glad he died.
I like how everyone always feels bad for what happened to Roman but literally immediately forgot that Olga is suffering infinite death and nobody gave a shit like 7 lines after it happened.

Finally this same thread I've seen 3 times got this many replies. Finally.

Do you mean the SE.RA.PH event? Everything after the defeat of Kiara is equally fandisc tier.

>Japan doesn't treat lesbians seriously

Tell that to Madoka and Love Live.

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CCC and Tokugawa Kaiten are also both events that happened like Dantes.

Yes, Guda is just the camera man (see the phoenix villa event). It's just they have to pretend he's a character in adaptations.

What?

My fave series is a "humble" gambling manga (ironically enough), but I don't judge series by how much money the make out of retards like you. If you really want an angle, my favorite shonen back when I started reading mango was the original DB, which is several times a bigger deal than Fate, both as a money maker. More importantly, my issue is with gachashit being a total scam, Fate most of all, not with how big this franchises are or aren't like the dick waving contest you're imagining.

Olga was a bitch, that's why no one cared she died after the prologue.

There are no plans to add more events. Guda doesn't know who Kiara or Melt is but always recognizes Dantes for a reason.

She seemed nice.
And Roman was pretty much responsible for the shit with Goetia even being able to occur in the first place.

>seemed nice
She's just a mediocre cunt.
>And Roman was pretty much responsible for the shit with Goetia even being able to occur in the first place.
No, he wasn't.

Good lad.

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Why would Guda and Mashu give a fuck about some ugly bitch they barely knew?

>No, he wasn't
I disagree
He shouldn't have been so selfish.
Everything is Marisbury's fault and by extension, Romans.

>He shouldn't have been so selfish.
What? He's one of the most selfless characters. That's one of his grave flaws. His lack of self worth.

>Everything is Marisbury's fault and by extension, Olga's*
Fix it. That's exactly why Flauros offs her in Fuyuki.

Excuse me who helps Marisbury win the grail war?

Why would burgers like it when it makes Thomas Edison look like a retarded man baby for part of the story? It's more about wanking off the Indians and Celts if anything.

>There's no way the game could leech that amount of money otherwise, because let's get real, it didn't get to where it is because of its quality as a story or being beloved by general audiences.
you are an absolute fucking retard, FGO regularly trends world wide when there announcements. It was the most tweeted about game last year and is well on the way of replicating that this year.

What does have to do with anything? If the Extra ritual is by the Animusphere, it happens whether or not there's Grail War. Flaurous blamed the ANIMUSPHERES, inlcuding Olga. Now fuck off.

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Roman is a faggot who should've been thrown into Chaldeas.
He's just so irritating.

He was summoned, fought and won. Marisbury having money isn't exactly why everything went to shit but his actions, actions Lev blames on the Animusphere everything rather than that instance. Animusphere included Olga too.

user, DB has not one, but two gachashit games among Japans top scamm...I mean grossing lists. More importantly, dokkan developers slipped off and accidentally let people see beyond the tip of the iceberg. Read the gacha scandal section
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z:_Dokkan_Battle

Roman is a good character, and Olga is a basic whiny bitch. Would roast her and bring back her hot daddy. At least he's not a whiny piece of shit like her.

>waaah nobody praised me even if i was a shitty cunt who shunned everyone around me ;_;
I hope Gordolf offs her if she's the priestess. It's only fair.

>seething waifufag caring about a base bitch over a well written character

Where's Olga Hello Kitty merch?

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FGO is unironically worse on average.

Kancolle doesn't even have a story.

>that one olgafag still exists

Kancolle had nothing to really ruin, unlike FGO ruining TM.