Shingeki no Kyojin

>Y-You want me to do what Eren???
>Fuck the Farmer?
>Okay if it's for my people

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Step aside, Ymir.

I'm here to impregnate your waifu.

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>Scrooge had a business partner named Marley
Bravo Isayama!

very cute Historia

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EHfags are not smart can't even provide a agrument baka.

anti EHfags are the flat earthers of these threads

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>implying Jean won't rear a small baseball team of handsome stallions and homely well-built women

Will Falco hold Colt's death against him?

Based

No but seriously EHfags are literally ESL spics, of course they're dumb and base everything on muh feefees.

I love the dead, unreadable expressions in these pics.

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Enter GODren

based

Girl here: any good Zeke x reader fanfic? With the reader being a shy girl and Zeke being kind of abusive

based

Dude just spam your ship and stop crying so much

hi i will roleplay as zeke with you

ill start

dont have sex

>and Zeke being kind of abusive
This must be the most bluepilled taste i've seen here

You smell like Hue

>implying EHtards wouldn't sperg against EAr or AA despite having more chances to become canon

But Zeke... I want to have sex with you (thanks! I needed this! Please roleplay with me)

EHfags are cucks

Would become a devil for her.

>EAr
>having more chances to become canon
You can't be serious.

I didn't think it could get worse than the last thread

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based desu

sex with Gabi

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No please. Don't.
SPARE US.

:)

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Mikasa training

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>Where are you, Ymir? I have Mr. Yeager's permission.

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>stAAlker

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I'm the one who wrote this...is the user still here? You said you would roleplay with me

So what was Zeke planning on doing if he were to beat the survey corps in the RtS arc? Kill Bert and Reiner in their sleep?

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Yes Levi sleeps 3 hours. Next question

What would have happened if the madman had transformed before Ymir?

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crispy queen

They all would've died being right next to him

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Rod Reiss would need a plan B

Abe memes are kino

Meant for

He is the plan B(uta)

That bull they hired seems to be doing a better job.

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Maybe Isayama didn't know 100% what to do with Zeke, honestly killing BRP and infiltrate into Paradis/scouts would have been the best option, with his knowledge and experience he wouldn't have much problems

This is a lot better than shipwarfaggotry. Gtfo.

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Are titans boomers?

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Roleplaying is just as bad. Go back to discord faggot.

>Tigerthekiller is here

>Why are they so cute?
Brotherly love is the purest form of love

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based as fuck

>leddit
Go back

Sure, ESL retard

I haven't read any of the manga. Just season 1-3, I'm starting right now

>mental illness

>JHfags are the concave earthers of the threads

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ok, this is based

YiiPii is a high end aesthetic.

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>hisu they are going to make you eat zeke real soon you have to get pregnant
>Finds someone she knows and forcefully gets herself pregnant and is dead inside for doing so
or
>hisu and eren who have NO romantic scenes in the entire series hook up and don’t forget whenever eren touches hisu he time travels
Ehfags as much as I want my boy to impregnate a queen it’s not likely.

Which one will rape Zeke?

Not an argument

BEHOLD!

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You said the Z word

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>don’t forget whenever eren touches hisu he time travels
holy speedreading

>and don’t forget whenever eren touches hisu he time travels
>fujos are speedreaders
Nothing new.

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10/10 Yii

Cringe, only Armong can match Yii's cuteness

>Gabi, 5 children isn't enough, we need to have more sex

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Isayama needs to give her some screen time that doesn't involve the chair.

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based

Based

Pigs aren't cute, but tall dead eyed amazonian women sure as hell are.

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Yelena is gross

You'll come around to your senses eventually. Yii is always.

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Yelena finds Armong cute, that's all that matters.

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So Zeke can control titans because they have his spinal fluid right?
Is that how the royal family fought each other during the civil wars of the Eldian empire?

This smells like the same delusion that comes with Pieck/Porco posts.

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"Eren... whose memory is this?"

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Farmer's son will really have an amazing uncle.

I thought Hisu knew better

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He'll be too deep inside Gabi's pussy to care about whatshisname, see how quickly he forgot about Udo and Zofia or how he chose to kill himself with Gabo rather than stay alive with Colt.

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Historia raped Eren

Eren is dead, thoughs on this?

You could just self-insert onto Yelena

Cope

His seed lives in Historia's belly.

isayama is a HACK and a COWARD for not keeping zeke naked and eren in short shorts

Quiet, fag

Cringe fag

Based.

*Dies in two chapters saving manlet*

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Eren will grow back from his head so he'll be naked in a few chapters

Random based.

>Implying he won't leave her for Pieck when Porco's influence kicks in

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>Dies peacefully at age 84
Fixed.

t. erehis(whore)

Well yeah, she obviously did since Eren was looking back in Armin's direction after the latter started talking. But considering she used this particular flashback to reassure the others about Eren caring about them above everyone else and doing everything for them, the disdainful look was certainly not something she was gonna dwell on or give any thought to. Matter of fact, Armin was the one taken aback, not her.

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Pieck will join in on his and Gabi's baby making sessions

>surrounded by Ymir, Erwin, Moblit and Kuchel

Based random based poster

Ultra basado.

A part of him remains deep inside Hisu

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Pieck probably ships FG like every single other character in the manga.

Based Stacystoria

>Ymir
??

based

Eren's bun is cooking inside Historia's oven

you have to go back

>gets her tiny slut brain smashed in by Cutekasa
B-based?

Her granddaughter

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Pii!

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Based

Yii!

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>a agrument
What did he mean?

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Most likely if they were royals

Based and ESLpilled. Fuck EHfags.

Did anything interesting come from these narrations?

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So this is power of samefaggotry. Can I get same amount of (You)'s if I say EHfags bad?

basado

It has to be the apex of samefaggotry. The statement they made has been said in other threads and usually got few (You)s. They easily pump out low effort variations of "based" and aren't even attempting to conceal it.

I guarantee half the replies are from the same person. Probably the original dude as well

based

Good argument, i agree

She will never die in my heart.

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>I guarantee half the replies are from the same person. Probably the original dude as well
Of course they are, suspiciously the amount of posters doesn't rise with every 'based' this post gets.
Obvious samefag is obvious, report and hide.

manlet would turn super saiyan if that happened

you are right, and also based

According to some fujos apparently Eren's hair smells really good

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>Eren and Historia became close friends during the Uprising arc
>Eren spent a lot of time at Historia's orphanage
>Eren has kept secrets and spoken out against government leaders to protect Historia
>Historia became pregnant around the time Eren went to Marley
>a cloaked figure can be seen prominently in the frame with Historia speaking to the farmer
>family is becoming a key theme of the recent arc (Eren talking to his grandparents, his brother, and seeing flashbacks of Grisha)
>a panel with Historia crying to Eren during the timeskip can be seen in Eren's memory fragments
>Eren rejects Zeke's plan to sterilize the Eldians proclaiming "I was born into this world."
>Zeke claims Grisha was a bad father who brainwashed Eren
>while exploring Grisha's memories Zeke's claims are slowly breaking down
>Isayama gives us a preview of the final panel of the manga, an unknown man holding an unknown baby while saying "You are free."

This is most of the information we have to go off of. Obviously I gave more attention to the most recent chapter but I think we're very near the big revelation so it seems appropriate.

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Stfu falco

They smell like Historia

woah, maybe you have a point

I bet it smells like freedom and rage

Again and again, again and again, again and again... SnKfags apparently cannot stop this damned wheel. Take heart, take a deep breath, and stop this shit. Just wait for what the author will bring to you. Otherwise, you yourself choose this hell.

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Falco is too pure to be thinking about sex

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I think next chapter is gonna be a memory of Grisha wishing for his children to be better fathers than he was and we are gonna get a reaction from Eren. Maybe if the get out of Paths we can have more memories shards with Historia, now more explicit.

>Implying Mankasa would do something more than cry and keep watching if she discovers Eren and Historia having sex

Yep that guy is really hurt with EH probably happening

He already knew about eren, probs kidnap him and go into hiding

While it's not concrete, it actually shows the possibility of EH happening. It seems like people are asking for 100% confirmation which is impossible right now. It just needs to be accepted that many people are now theorizing under the assumption that Eren is the father of Historia's baby. Whether you agree with that conclusion won't change that many people do.

Based Ringoposter

You can be a plotfag, a EHfag or a fujo, anyone. But you are an absolute retard if you believe in pregnancy was an accident meme.

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there is no reason for historia to be pregnant from zeke's side or eren's side.

Nice wishful thinking

There was no reason either for EZ to not hold hands in Marley

>no reason
Objective speedreader.

No fail safe. If they went OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH in Marley, and nothing happens, they're fucked. On Paradis they have three walls and an army of titans to hide behind.

But he was thinking about banging Gabi in the first chapter we see him

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>Magath stole a glance up her nighty
Based Theo?

Zeke had a plan. Make the whole world gather their troops in one place, and then hit them with a rumbling.

Even with your speedreader take on both options the second one is much more interesting.

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Is he Zick or Zee-kee?

Zeek

based and basedpilled

What was the reason? Zeke had the wine and certainly wouldn't have counted on a fucking forced pregnancy of all things to enhance his chances of survival. Whose idea was it and what purpose does it serve, then?

Sieg

jeeku

Zekuck

Godke

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>no hard feelings, right?

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>What was the reason?
The reason on Eren's part is he has admitted to liking Historia on more than one occasion. He gets Historia pregnant and then uses that in his leverage for not wanting to go through with the plan. That fails early,evidenced by the Falco/Colt "it's too bad" moment.
Now they're on the paths and Zeke is seeing that Grisha wasn't the man he thought he was. And Eren is going to use this to say that he won't be the same sort of father that zeke thought Grisha was. Who planned it? I personally like the idea of it being a mutual arrangement on Eren and Historia's part, but that's just me.

>based message deleted
based

*Nice likely outcome

Sorry dude, Godkasa doesn't care about Eren anymore

>MY DICK STILL WORKS ZEKE, I'LL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO HAVE AS MANY KIDS AS POSSIBLE TO SPITE YOU

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Jiiku.

>He gets Historia pregnant and then uses that in his leverage for not wanting to go through with the plan
I don't get that part, what do you mean?

Hans will take care of him

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Nah, Beautifulkasa will protect Eren from the petite slut by killing her.

>Mikasa
>God

He also goes to Mid-eastern titty bars

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Sex with Lynne

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I doubt it, she couldn't even defend herself when Eren called her a slave and just cried. But I think she would just accept their relationship if that happens.

Based and cute

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no point in being a soldier if you don't sample the local delicacies after all

Eren is a different case, she wouldn't hesitate to hit Shitstoria

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Aunt Mikasa would never harm her sister in law. She cares too much about Eren to do something like that.

Please don't say bad things about Mikasa, she only deserves to be praised and worshipped.

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Sex with Hanji

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And her niece Ymir, don't forget.

>Reiner, Zeke, Eren, Historia will get a shit ending
>AMJC and manlet will get a happy ending
Fuck this gay earth

>thank you brother, I now see the beauty of life and the error of my ways
>my new mission in life is to impregnate as many eldian women as possible in the short time i have left in this world

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>She cares too much about Eren
not anymore, she dislikes him now

>Mikasa
>Killing someone Eren likes without the fear of him abandoning her
She would cry and accept her fate as his doggie, as long he keeps close to her

>Reiner will get a shit ending
yeah, he'll survive and live a long healthy life

Eren and zeke won bro
The only good ending reiner could get is death

t. Jean Armin Kyiomi Eren Louise Historia Sasha Levi Annie Bertholdt Zeke Reiner Hange

That whore Pissu deserves it for killing hundreds of people just so she could be save.

>implying she wouldn't be happy for him

Still she will not date you, Louise

As long as Reiner is suffering I'm ok with this

But she didn't kill anybody, Eren did

can't wait to see louise and jean fighting to see who can swoop in on the rebound first

>Lynne

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Everyone deserves a happy ending except for Zekuck and Floch

Oh i see, then the Marley military didn't take down the walls, Bertolt and Reiner did.

normalfag

Sieg and Floch are redpilled

They probably gonna be cucked by some random Hizuru's guy

zeke is based, but he is not redpilled. floch is both based and redpilled

A quick death would be too kind for Zeke. He deserves to die like Mike did.

Did Grisha already know that non-royal bloods are immune the king's will before voring Frieda?

t. Eren and Abe

>based
>will just do what his husbando Eren tells him without questioning it
>Eren most likely is just using him as a tool and will get rid of him when he isn't useful anymore

stay mad

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I forget, was there any indication Grisha knew anything about how the founder worked at all?

Cute and sad

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how do you think eren is gonna solve this without being able to use the coordinate? he won't. zeke is blackpilling himself, unknowingly, by looking through grisha's memories.

didnt one of his hands get blown off?

>Nooo brother, think of my child!

the plan of feeding zeke to historia

zeke already had wine spread on the island, which eren knew about.

that drawing predates 115

i thought you went to sleep you shitstorm causing nigver, what happened to your naptime

But I was talking about Floch and his husbando Eren

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only good characters deserve happy endings which means AMJC are the only ones who shouldn't get a happy ending

that was different leverage, for if they tried to pull something, using the threat of being titanized to make the government do what he wants

Just two fingers

Dude go fuck yourself with a stick, even EHfags agree that Pissu is an accomplice in the killing of hundred of eldians by the wine. Death would be a fair end for her, she is no saint.

EHfats are disgusting whales baka

post kino

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Will Floch be disappointed when he discovers Eren was a waifufag all this time?

By that logic neither should Hisu and Zeke

Zeke and Hisu are top 5

Zeke deserves happiness

what happened to the archive?
boards.fireden.net/a/

>EH fags agree
no they dont
>pissu
you the same seanigger from the last thread, go back to sleep
>she is no saint
literall nobody is

Eren murkes all those people in a plan he created that he forced people to go along with, just because shes the reason doesnt mean she made him or instigated it. I cant believe im replying to someone who compared Marley ordering the warriors to break the walls to Eren autonomously crafting his own plan that he in turn is making people follow.

Fucking kill yourself you dumb fuck retard, no one thinks you or your constant shitposting is entertaining.

use desuarchive

Hisu isn't top 5, don't insult snk like that

desuarchive is fucking shit

Says the fag using fireden

fireden is for Yea Forums niggers

Zeke is literally a meme, stop pretending he's unironically a good character

i've never seen a dead image in fireden half of the images in desuarchive never load

Don't give more (you)s to the squizo fujo, user.

>actually trying to argue that ZEKE of all characters is poorly written
jesus christ i know we're going through a content drought but try and keep the shitposting to a minimum

No, he probably didn't know how it worked and maibe he was also shocked after seeing that nothing have changed, but, maibe due the PATHS thing, he found out that somehow eren would be able to do it in the future.

I think you are unable to tell facts from opinions dude.
Fact 1:
Historia agreed to a secret plan to skip her duties as queen of Eldia
Fact 2:
This plan has led to the needless killing of thousands of people
Fact 3:
Historia is smart enough to realize this plan would lead to this killings, which makes her an accomplice in them

If you are so confident that this isn't the case, you can make a strawpoll asking people what they think.

And forgive me for ignoring all your unrelated seething but i don't have time for that.

most likely not

t. manletwhale

Is funny how the people who obtain a godlike power in this manga look all normal or pityful hobotier people (eren,grisha,zeke,uri,frieda, ymir fritz) and don't gain some weird ass design like usually happens in all the other shonens (luffy's gears, naruto's jiuby, goku's ssgss, aizen's butterfly form, madara god mode etc.......).

i don't care about images.

(You)

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In your opinion, who are the most developed characters /snk/?

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Does turning into a giant naked monster at will count?

It's not really funny or unusual at all. SNK isn't a deconstruction of the genre, but Isayama has avoided a great many cliches.

The Marleyan Warriors, Gabi and Eren.

eren and reiner are isayama's only amazingly written characters

Thanks for agreeing with me?

So why Vinland Saga isn't censored like SnK? they both air on NHK.

Nobody said anything about being amazingly written.

I LOVE REINER! Cutest, handsomest, coolest and most BASED.

Eren and Mikasa

Eren, Reiner, Hisu.

I was asking how the pregnancy was necessary when the wine plan already existed and Zeke was visibly not counting on anything else. I don't think you actually answered.

Eren > Reiner > Erwin > Zeke > Grisha > Levi > Hisu > Hange > Armin > Mikasa > Jean
Other characters that i didn't list are probably too irrelevant

Based and cuckoldpilled

>Mikasa
Dumb EMfat

-Eren
-Reiner
-Historia
-Gabi

Aside from Royals having the ability to unleash the full power of titans which all Eldians learned at school, then neither Kruger nor Grisha knew about the way to circumvent the 145th King's will while in possession of the FT. If he did he wouldn't have been so eager to kill the whole Reiss family.

>hisu and eren who have NO romantic scenes in the entire series hook up and don’t forget whenever eren touches hisu he time travels
This level of cope

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that's what he gets for speedreading the ancient texts

...

Reiner
Eren
Gabi

That post actually made me realise Eren, Historia Reiner and Zeke might be the only characters I'm legitimately invested in and curious about in this final arc. Maybe add Hange too.

...

Weak bait

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Holy fucking based, ringoposter. Always a joy to see you in these awful threads.

I LOVE REINER TOO!
>licking Reiner's tears as he fails once again in taking his own life and has Eren flashbacks
imagine

touché, nigger

HE HAS NO FOUNDER
HE HATES HIS FACE
THIS MONG
IS A JOBBING DISGRACE
HE FUCKED UP
AND LOST HIS WHOLE CREW
AND NOW HE WANTS TO SEPPUKU

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Chadren, Godke, Reiner

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Same, i hope Isayama focuses on them, AMJC are too far gone it's not worth saving them anymore.

Based

DON'T BULLY REINER HE DID HIS BEST FOR HIS MOM AND ALL HE GOT WAS PTSD AND GABO!

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Same, also based trips

Huh, I guess Eren really has a thing for blonds after all.

I 100% think EH happened but they don't have any real romantic subtext yet, so any theory that takes this element into account is relying on educated guesses as to how their relationship evolved rather than pure evidence. Isayama's autism is hiding everything including any interactions they've had post-Kiyomi meeting that could go in that direction, and the only concrete hint we've had at something emotional actually happening between them was dropped literally just this month.
It's annoying as shit but waiting is all we can do at this point.

He is the same as Grisha, just more based

You will be disappointed Eren and Historia don't have feelings EHfat

I agree with everyone who says that there is no romance between them. However, we have a moment from where their romantic relationship could supposedly begin. And it is precisely the connection between Eren and Historia during the timeskip that Isayama hides, and she definitely is.

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Is there anyone making a "Smug Editor" for EH being Canon, EH not being Canon or possibly even EM being Canon?

Then where did their child come from?

Mikefag laying truths left and right.

>armin
>reiner
>annie
>historia
>zeke
he really does

Excuse me but what the fuck is this?

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Nah I wouldn't be. Because unlike you, fatso, I'm actually prepared for any eventuality so long as it's properly written and justified. Now fuck off.

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>tfw all Mikasa had to do to win Eren bowl was buying some hair bleach

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left is volume 29, right is the short stories that they said were going to go a long the volume

Erin is definetly up there. I feel like Erwin had a nice arc as well. Armin and Mikasas' arc isnt finished yet so who knows, but I dislike that they dropped their boy like that and Jean was needed to give them the different perspective they needed.

gyarukasa would be too powerful

I'm sure there's at least a couple of anons collecting screenshots for either Farmer being the father or Eren being the father. Collages are happening no matter the outcome.

Reiner, Eren, Erwin, Historia

Why is Reiner so gay and why was his split personality so hetero for Historia?

Ereh... this way you would like me?

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This will be the greatest cucking of our time

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I'm an EHfag but I agree that Historia has a little weight of guilt in all of this, not as much as Eren but still

But what he disliked about Mikasa was her slave-like behavior, not her looks.

Eren, Erwin, Reiner and Annie.

Based.

faggotpilled

Hgnnn, I love Reiner so much.

Reiner, Eren, Gabi, Historia, and Zeke soon

I never said she didnt but that doublenigger compares her to fucking marley like that makes a lick of sense

In your opinion, which characters have the most wasted potential?

Yea Forums is also gone

I love how Reiner's impresive muscular body became leaner.
Perfect for erotic bully.

I didn't, quote me on that or stfu

Armin and Annie.

Ymir and Bert

I want to lick his tears and tease his butt hole with my rifle

Mikasa, Ymir and Bert.

now fuck off retard

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Historia

Eren Zeke and Reiner. Historia had a great arc too alongside Eren but she's been out of the spotlight for too long, so holding judgement until Isayama decides to come back to her and clarifies her perspective and her place on the chessboard.
To a lesser extent (since he's at least been featured heavily in the last few chapters) I'm expecting the same for Reiner, because the ZE conflict seems to have eclipsed his own opposition to Eren, assuming it wasn't already wrapped up back in Liberio. His new lines of dialogue in volume 29 obviously serve to hammer down the idea that Eren's might be now fighting for something more than just his own sake and that neither his enemies nor his allies can fully grasp, but I'm wondering what this says about Reiner to be less trying to project and more trying to question Eren's drive and what makes them similar (even almost rejecting the notion). I feel like the next few months are gonna be a turning point for this arc and the endgame in general.

Unironically Bertholdt

Yeah, a meaty rifle.
If you know what I mean.

marlowe

Unironically Armong.

>user is too dumb to understand what my post meant

and too

Jean and Bert

Bert

People don't get that Eren's a personality fag before anything else. The people who had a significant impact on his life and/or his outlook and whose traits appealed to him just so happened to be blondes.

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Jean and Connie

Is it potent enough to finally kill him from pleasure though user?

Connie

where are the yelena lewds

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Jean, Mikasa, Annie.

Y E S

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it's just a joke user

>JC will get a happy ending
I hope so.

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I got an idea nii-san, lets make the PATHS™ a place of silent reflection.

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Jean, Annie, Ymir and Bert.

What will this strapping young lad do next?

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Same with the original opinion from Shitren about his hate for Mikasa

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The joke is on you user, the comment on the original opinion telling the first post was a joke was also a joke.

I'm tempted to say Historia but that would be jumping the gun. Historia is being held in reserve for a big reveal. I have pretty identical thoughts about Armin as well.

Mikasa on the other hand has been waiting for her moment for the entire series and now even if she does get the spotlight it's going to be too little too late.

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it was a shit analogy, it doesnt mattsr your intentions with it. never did i once say that historia had no part in is as she is the deciding factor that made eren do what hes doing in the first place, then you brought up that shit analogy and im supposed to know what you meant? It was garbage and didnt fit the scenario.

there was no potential dawg, she exists for the sake of existing

Floch will be the second emperor of Eldia after Eren steps down to spend his last years with his family

my dumbass replied to myself, meant for

>there was no potential
She was so OP that Isayama had to have her stay in the Garrison and never appear again after chapter 32.

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you could reasonably headcannon that she quit, got married and is now living a safe life in wall rose

>Historia... you're the only one who understands me...

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With an Ian clone.

>armin and historia
weird ship but ok

>Logic 11
I kek every time

I said reasonable, user

Unfortunately for you they have feelings and the meltdown will be sweet.

She could pull Hanji out of that river?

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>dead thread
>dead series

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>>hisu they are going to make you eat zeke real soon you have to get pregnant
This isn't even the case anymore you retarded fujo

Fuck out of here. Erwin was good.

Eren, Historia and Reiner. Zeke might make the list depending on the upcoming chapters.

tumblr might try to tell you that manlet and Armin are well developed but they just go through the same "I'm overpowered but all muh comrades die" and "I'm insecure but I need to use my big brain for the good of humanity" every single arc they get some sort of focus.

Nip fanartist where right about the crying Hisu thing so I hope they get this right too.

I want to both hug and bully shota Reiner

It’s a Saturday night. Most people have friends and do things

Manlet was good in Uprising, but you're not wrong

But user, if Historia was titanized then the attack on Liberio would never need to happen, in fact there would have been almost no deaths nor battles since Paradis would have had the coordinate since day one.
So yes, Historia's selfishness is the deciding factor on this conflict. She is a traitor whose silence caused thousands of deaths. For that i think that death is a fitting punishment for her, of course waiting until her baby is born.
And by the way, i also think others characters deserve to die, but in Historia's case i despise her even more because her reasons to act like she did were pure selfishness and running away from the responsability that she put on herself years ago.

She looks like Hitch's shy bookish sister

The descision was never uo to her and she accepted being sacrificed before ERENS selfishness convinced her not to. If EREN didnt stop her from getting titanized and if EREN didnt come up with the idea to get her pregnant then none of this wouldve happened you speedreading schizo. Reread the manga because every peice of evidence leads us to believe that this is all part of ERENS plan to keeo her alive. She doesnt deserve to die more than any other character in this story, you just have an unnatural hateboner for no apparent reason. This is your last (you) dipshit, go back and reread the chapter then take your meds.

Mikasa by far, she appeared to be a welcome change of pace from the useless shonen heroine even if she was kind of obsessed with MC's dick but after Clash of Titans she just gets relegated to background joke character and 3DMG support. She also stops interacting with anyone other than to say "Ereh!" or agree with Armin's opinions.

Even this "getting over Eren" stuff comes more from being manipulated by Eren into ditching him than actually growing a personality outside of him.

The pregnancy was an accident trough.

This but for the adult one.

If he hadn't been the obligatory red shirt death in RTS along with Moblit would he have taken Floch's role as a minister of propaganda willing to do anything to save the walls or would he have just married Hitch?

I really hope this is the case just to cause maximum butthurt.

Why does manlet have got tits in that LP pic?

Also, that Piku looks too good to be wasted on that dumb meme pairing

Same thing he has done since Trost, absolutely nothing important in the large scheme of things.

He saved Erens life in 119

>He saved Eren
Who hasn't?

Eren
Historia
Reiner

>implying Reiner could kill anyone now
>especially Eren

Eren, Reiner, Historia and Erwin

He did manage to kill Porco though.

Fuck you. Jean is a capable leader.

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Do you have a hard time believing that Historia is a evil person? Just because Eren convinced her doesn't take the blame away from her. Your argument is very stupid and it almost sound like Historia didn't decide it by herself.
But even then, it doesn't matter how it happened, what matters is that she fully agreed to the plan and to all its consequences, making her an accomplice of all the deaths, inclusing those of innocent Paradisians. It was in her hand to stop Eren's plan, but she decided not to.
If that isn't deserving of dead, then tell me what punishment should Historia have?

If Ymir only listens to royal blood how did Eren use the titans to kill Dina and then make them attack Reiner?

>Historia
>evil
Are you a fucking nutter?

Floch is 99% sure to have a gruesome death

Historia admitted to being the worst girl in human history. Of course she's evil.

How do you call someone who was ok with her inaction causing the deaths of hundreds of kids in Liberio? She is quite literally the root of the problem and the reason those kids died.

Thank you, i don't know why user is so defensive, it makes Historia a better character in my opinion.

he's just admiring her strength, r-right Mikasabros?

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Yes how evil of her to reject godhood to save her friend.
How evil of her to risk her life on the frontlines fighting the largest titan in the world to save her people.
How evil of her to reject the comforts and luxury of the capital to instead build an orphanage where she personally spends time caring for kids who suffered similar tragedies to herself.

And most of all how evil of her to be willing to sacrifice the rest of her life to protect Paradis from foreign invasion. She's truly the enemy of humanity.

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Not again. The children. It's always the children with you people. There were others there too you know? They were gonna get slaughtered like everyone else when the rumbling started.

A person isn't evil because they refuse to act. It isn't their duty to prevent death, even if they can.

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>Eren admired inside THIS
what a lucky guy

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>Yes how evil of her to reject godhood to save her friend.
Instead of doing what was right for the safety of humanity. Her inaction is evil. Evil I say, and she admits it. Who are we to deny her that right or discredit her?

Rough sex with Mikasa's cute butt.

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>A person isn't evil because they refuse to act.
Sure they are. If you're in the position to save thousands and choose to do nothing, you're culpable.

She was just being dramatic when she said that.
Her father was preaching about how good what they were doing is but she saw through his lies and mocked him for his blind zeal.

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But Historia herself agreed to be queen years ago. I wouldn't blame her if the military wanted to force her into becoming a titan, but she herself willingly agreed to the position and knowing full well what could be expected of her. It's her responsability as a queen to protect her people, if she doesn't want to, then she shouldn't have taken the crown.

>And most of all how evil of her to be willing to sacrifice the rest of her life to protect Paradis from foreign invasion. She's truly the enemy of humanity.

Are you an idiot, her inaction only made this much more difficult than it should have been. If Eren had been killed in Liberio everyone in Paradis would be dead now and it would have been partly her fault.

I can't wait to meet my child.

t. farmer

Since when is she the Queen of Marley you dumb fuck

didnt i say stop responding to me and take your meds schizo, the conversation is over

t. EMfag

We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I just don't think anyone should be held responsible for the lives of others unless they put themselves in a position to be. Historia is only responsible for the people of Paradis. What happened to the people of Liberio isn't her problem.

Her inaction caused the death of Paradisians idiot. Remember the wine plot? That whole thing that happened because Eren needed Zeke since Historia didn't want to become a titan?. Yeah that's a direct consequence of her selfishness.

characters mentioned in replies could have been far more interesting than fucking Gabitch and waifufag Falco

How would you take down the Colossal Titan?

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Seething Sashafag

I'm talking with other people now, kindly shut the fuck up

A bunch of Legos on the ground.

>since Historia didn't want to become a titan
She accepted becoming the next beast titan before Eren shut it down

take out the Achilles

PAP him.

>before Eren shut it down
Eren wasn't in the position to shut anything down. Historia agreed to become the next beast titan, and the she chickened out. Stop acting like she didn't make that decision by herself.

>moralfag starts calling characters in a morally grey manga evil
>"shut up, i have new people to entertain my retardation"
pathetic

The enemies of humanity.

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Why are they always so depressed

yeah Gabbur shows us that Eren is bad from other POV and her development from
>hurr durr devils
to
>they're not bad after all
, but that doesn't she gets more screentime than the MCs and everyone turns retarded whenever she's around.
She's one of the most invested into uninteresting characters I've read

now draw them kissing

with an asspull.

>implying Mikasa wouldn't kill Historia if she even had a hint that Historia was getting too close with Eren.
Best way for Eren to protect Historia is to NOT be with her.

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It's their thing

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Itd be one thing if you were arguing that Historia isnt a good person because there is evidence to back that, she has stated and it has been shown that since she dropped the persona of Krista she has become a lot more selfish and does things for her own sake. But to argue evil is blatantly wrong, since how every character acts is within their own personal interests and the situation they find themselves in using evil really makes you look like a child.

It's ok dude, at least now you admit that she is the main cause of the deaths of hundreds of Paradisians. I still remember when we started discussing and you were insisting that she was innocent and that it was all Eren's fault. I'm glad that i was able to change the mind of someone as obstinate as you.

The world forces them to kill billions of people.

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Because they're not kissing

mustard gas.

I need more context for that gif

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So, Lelouch like ending is pretty much impossible right?

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I use the word evil because is shorter than "person who is okay with her inaction and her threason causing the deaths of thousads of innocents". It's just a word and you can interpret it in many ways, in the context of the discussion it's pretty clear what i mean by evil, please don't make that the focus of your argument.

>main
a part of, but not the main. and to eren does indeed have the power to sway the descisions of internal politics since hes the holder of the founder. Whatevee he says goes as far as the govt is concerned, which is why they wanted to take the founding titan away from him.
>innocent
i mightve implied innocence but thats because you implied evil. she isnt free of guilt or wrongdoing but the word evil is nowhere near what should be used to describe a pawn queen in a govt she has little to no control over
>obstinate
maybe, but i wasnt the one making insane claims about evil and good desu

Lelouch sacrificed himself for the world. Eren is only doing it for his lover Historia Reiss and their unborn child Ymir

wording is important, as evil is a word as black and white as it gets. and i wouldnt say she was ok with the sacrifice, its a lot of pressure to put on somekne who already has a shitton of pressure on them. not to mention Eren has the founder so his word trumps most if not all in the govt which is why they wanted to get rid of him

What?

Did someone say Ymir?

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Eren don’t be mean to your onii-chan!

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A Lelouch it not realistic not even in its own series, something that was acknowledged by said series already

Zeke is So Cute

ok fair enough, she is not evil(probably), she is just very selfish and a traitor to her people. I still very much think she would deserve death for this(and so would Eren, Zeke, etc)

Don't you mean, sexy

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I like manlet the character but manlet the fujobait holds him down way too much for him to be compelling or to have a proper character arc, with 113 being one of the absolute worst examples of this.

So now he is stuck as an unstoppable killing machine a that got written out of another arc just so he doesn't instantly kill all of their enemies.

He is cute and sexy!!!!! I love him :)

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He got thrown in prison by his very own underlings that chose to follow Eren/Floch over him

kek, really? I haven't watched CG after R2.

Put Armin near him and watch his IQ drop by 100

Can you really consider her a trailer if she was forced to lead? It was never her intention to become queen and it was even less so to become a literal pawn of the government. The choice Eren made freed her of living with an even bigger burden if becoming a shifter/breeding slave, which is way worse than the burden that was thrust upon her at 15. She isnt evil, not even bad. Just human dawg, and i garuantee that most people sympathize/empathize with her and erens character more than any character because of that reason.

eggman pisses on the moon

I WANT TO SUCK ZEKES COCK aaaa

cute

But why?

>I'll kill everyone that gets in my way
Is it bad that I miss this Mikasa? She felt like more of an unique character than what she is now.

What season will underground music enthusiast drug addict Eren make an appearance?

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Zeke deserves a kiss.

youtu.be/WwFyoyoesTE
you tell me

His very next anime appearance

every battlefield problem can be solved with the application of more artillery

Yes, she chose that position by herself knowing very well what could be expected of her, she was never forced to do it as you say, she could have easily refused and Erwin, Hange, Pixis would back her up. Now that it is her time to protect her people, she doesn't just refuse to protect them, she directly conspires against them and causes the deaths of hundreds. She isn't evil, but she is still accountable for her actions.

Zeke loves his chuuni otouto

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We need more EZ going through historical pictures. Where is the one with Kennedy?

Yeah she used to be a bit repilled, then she suddenly started to care about yhe wolrd for no reason.

There literally was no other choice for her, the responsibility of her bloodline fell onto her lap, same with eren being the attack titan/ founding titan, it was never a choice user. Not to mention pixis wouldnt have even gone along with the coup if historia wasnt garuanteed to be queen and hange erwin and levi all practically forcing the role onto her whether she liked it or not. The people who make the descisions and decide the fate of her people arent her, they are pixis, hange and zackly with the only wild card being eren since he controls the founder. I cannot stress this enough, but 90% of what happens because of historia is never in her control and thats a key part of her character arc. She is way less accountable for the deaths than pretty much anyone who has a say in the government, particularly the 3 i mentiones and Eren.

I might be missing something here but why would eren push historia to get pregnant if he was planning to just use zeke for the rumbling anyway? I know they hadn't met at that point but he could've already figured that they would make contact before historia was expected to eat zeke, right? This is assuming that the rumbling is eren's endgame and that he doesn't want to continue succession of a royal blooded titan though so idk

>his very own underlings
Yeah, I don't really remember Jean being in charge of teaching the 109th cadets.

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burn myself to death so my bro can fuck him up then get injected and eat him

Your major mistake is assuming that Erens plan is the rumbling, since right now we still have no clue what it is. If it was your confusion would be correct but the way this story is going makes it seem like a new option is going to show itself in the next 10 - 15 chapters.

Based filename

Id say bases but you gotta do something post timeskip for me to respect you more armin

Talking about these guys, Jean and Lobov seemed to be the ones in charge of all of them since Hanji and the mong were on the airship and manlet was with monki

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The initial theory was Eren did it to prevent Zeke from being feed to Historia immediately because that was the military's plan.
But after the wine reveal, people start having a doubt about that theory since the wine should be enough to protect Zeke.

>EREN EREN EREN
Historia isn't a fucking child and Eren would never force her to do anything. She chose her own path and she's gonna have to live with it, just like Eren.

Reminder that based eren will come back
He'll cuck every single living thing

user, if she isn't accountable then tell me who is? She chose to be queen by her own decision and because she wanted to, that's the whole point of her character arc in uprising, to not be bound by her shackles and to be able to make her own decision, she was convinced that she wanted to be the queen, no one had to force her to be queen no matter what you say. That makes pretty much all your argument about her being a victim of her circumstances wrong. Stop trying to make a traitor into a victim.

Jean and Lobov were probably squad leaders, but the rookies who never engaged in battle, aside from Floch, began celebrating before the mission was over. Jean tried to regain control, but it was too late for things to settle down.

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Heh

I'll just kill that bastard again

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She can definitely care but it'd be nice to see what made her that way rather than just have her agree with Armin because he had some good experiences with the foreign POWs.

Maybe not show that Kiyomi is just a greedy jew right during her introduction and have Mikasa spend a lot of the timeskip with her where she ultimately ends up feeling split by her Eldian and Hizuru heritages.

IS 121 OUT????

ranks are treated pretty informally in the series as a whole anyway

The mission was already over, all that was left was wait for Lobov to come back and not leave the fucking door unguarded until he does.

I'm a different guy and not here to argue or anything but isn't this all based on the assumption that Historia knows what the fuck Eren is doing, which we have no confirmation of?

SHE DOESNT HAVE CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT, go back and reread the flashbacks. The path she """chose""" was that of a pawn, it was already discussed that she had no idea how to run a country at 15 which is why she a public figure and doesnt make any of the decisions. And she clearly is living with the choice she made, have you seen her faces in recent chapters?
Literally everyone. If the current government wasnt sitting on their ass, eren unwilling to sacrifice historia, zeke wanting to genocide eldians, and the world didnt want them dead, none of these thing wouldve come to fruition. Im not calling her "the victim", she like most is just "a victim" of circumstance and products of their environment.

>tfw bg characters have more friendship than EMAJCS

Eren wouldnt force her but most definitely wouldnt allow her to sacrifice herself, same difference really.

If it wasn't for Historia's pregnancy, they would have fed Zeke to her as soon as he arrived on the island (well, tried to. Who knows how things would have gone if the wine came into play early.) It was necessary to ensure she wouldn't be forcibly titanized.

For the SL it just seems to be Commander > Squad Leader > everyone else. Nobody in the 104th seems to have got their own squad but Connie says that they are all officers in 111 so they definitely have got more military authority than most of the normies that put them in prison.

The Zero Requiem bullshit was literally shut down by Eren himself over 100 chapters ago. I cannot for the life of me understand why this theory about his true intentions has been so popular at any point in time when his selfishness has always been an essential part of his character.

the mission isn't over when you're still in the AO and multiple pockets of enemy resistance are still active, but the sloppy execution and breakdown of command is appropriate for a force that's really green and really only experiencing their first taste of force-on-force combat

Not sure about that. I'm sure Eren would have remained vehemently opposed, but he can't force her to do anything. She's going along with his plans because deep down she doesn't want to sacrifice herself.

Or maybe just fed her armin, any titan will do really

Yes it is, but after last chapter i'd say it's 99.9% sure that Eren and Historia made some kind plan together, even if you don't believe in EH

A lot of people seems to hate the thought of Eren killing billions of people outside the wall.

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Would Ocean Eren be nicer to his onii-chan, I wonder?

But it's already working. The rest of the world has put aside their differences because they view him as an existential threat. I don't see why a comment from 100 chapters ago before Eren knew anything about his reality should be given such weight.

But Eren doesn't decide that, if Historia did want to be sacrificed then she would have revealed Eren's plan to the military.
Eren literally has no choice in this, wathever decision Historia took, it was from her own will.

The mission isn't over until Hange says it's over. She's the actual commander and everyone should be guarding their post until she says the operation is over.

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Her pregnancy is related to something else Eren planned or it was by accident and love

>Flochefags celebrate early again

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What would happen after that "Powerful Enemy" gone?

It's speedreading + they don't like the idea of the MC committing atrocities. It's the main reason why there were so many anons here denying the idea of Eren giving Marley a GR because "Eren's a good boy".

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>It was necessary to ensure she wouldn't be forcibly titanized.
That isn't the case with Zeke's reluctance to use the wine for his survival. Unless Eren was paranoid it's not for that should be clear now by the latest chapters.

Kill all cucks

>Literally everyone. If the current government wasnt sitting on their ass, eren unwilling to sacrifice historia, zeke wanting to genocide eldians, and the world didnt want them dead, none of these thing wouldve come to fruition. Im not calling her "the victim", she like most is just "a victim" of circumstance and products of their environment.
If Historia wasn't prepared for the worst case scenario to happen(aka her having to become a titan), then she shouldn't have ever agreed to her position as the queen. As simple as that.

he literally can since he is the one who possesses the founding titan, which is why they wantes to get rid of him

It wasnt her choice, it was the survey corps, wall security and mps choice. and she was prepares then eren proceeded to stop her.

He doesn't decide that, if she doesn't follow his plan he would simply have to deal with it and adjust his plans accordingly, cause any word from her to the higher ups and he'd be toast. Even beyond that it's highly doubtful he'd disregard her decision and force her to comply "for her own good" when he's never displayed such an attitude towards people he respects (although he does seem to have lost a whole lot of respect for a whole lot of people over the years). Again, if she followed Eren, it was her choice to do so.

It WAS her choice to be queen, don't downplay all the development she had in Uprising. The whole point of that arc is that she made herself free from the shackles of her royal blood. In the end she made the choice by HERSELF.

Well, Hange was already leaving the ship's navigation to Onyankopon and discussing the results and consequences of the mission with EZ but JSC were still fucking retarded for leaving the door unguarded and open when they were still waiting for someone else.

just because she owned up to it doesnt make it a choice she wanted to have to make, which is why i said it was a product of every factor and not just her

*survives your manga*

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How the fuck did they think they had won when none of them had any thunderspears and there was a fucking turret with people inside of it that couldn't be possibly defeated with blades.

Calm the fuck down, will you? No one is after your throat, and I'm not after Historia either (I'm not the user claiming she should die for being some evil bitch or whatever). But in your desperate attempt to paint her as a spotless individual you're actually denying her any kind of agency she could have had in the decisions she made that contributed to the creation of Paradis' current situation. No one said she controls the government, and the conversation wasn't about her ability to rule either.

they're just lucky she only had a bolt action rifle, imagine if she'd scuttled in there with a carbine or pistol or even a grenade

>Hange, there is one way where we can truly get back at beardy

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Where will we see these flowers next? Sprouting from the desolate aftermath of the rumbling? Or blooming around eren's corpse after his last hurrah?

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>a fucking turret with people inside of it that couldn't be possibly defeated with blades
now to be fair, the spg assembly is open and unarmored unlike the mg nests she used to have

>(well, tried to. Who knows how things would have gone if the wine came into play early)
You can't just put the part that actually makes the necessity of the whole pregnancy debatable in brackets and call it a day, user.

At that point why not go full Zeke and blame her mother for giving birth to her?. You can justify literally anything by saying "it was a product of the circumstances" so your "point" is kind of "pointless". Focus on what actually happened instead of why it happened. I'm discussing the decision she made, not the events that led her to make that decision.

>post-rumbling world dominated by an eldian army of 11/10 int ackersoldiers
zeke, i...

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You're right, which is why i corrected the beginning part of what i said right here

Wouldn't fighter planes make easy work of them?

because im not a slippery slope retard like zeke, im talking about how the events in the event of the main cast made her end up in this scenario, not some dumb abstract shit

depends on the weaponry of the planes but pretty much, which is why the invention of flying weapons etc. were making titans obsolete

Yeah, but unless they all saw someone landing on the turret and samurai-ing everyone inside there was just no way that they could have finished off all of their enemies.

But the real reason is that they were actual retards that had to be shown as retards so main characters could do their jobs better.

And a lot of anons already told you why that's also wrong. The argument you gave here is false.

>he literally can since he is the one who possesses the founding titan, which is why they wantes to get rid of him
The government can easily have him get eaten if Historia had revealed his plan. Eren isn't important at all, the FT is. Ultimately Eren had nothing to do with Historia's decision

Maybe read past the first ten words because i also explained to you why discussing that makes no sense.

It could even nullify the rumbling

Activating hackermen makes them dumb as rocks.

if there was enough of them for sure

the hangenome negates that.

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Sure I can. People wrongly assume the wine plan was foolproof when it wasn't. When Zeke arrived at the island he had no idea who drank the wine and who didn't. Everyone on the airship had not drank any and wouldn't be affected, including two Ackermans. And at the end of the day, they didn't even need Zeke. If they titanize Historia and feed Armin to her, the plan will work just as well.

The pregnancy on the other hand was a foolproof plan. We know this because unlike the wine plan it actually worked, insofar as it stopped Historia from being titanized.

>hangenome
unexpected kek

and im saying thatbit isnt pointless because the events those chsracters did directly affect the story, we dont have concrete evidence on the why so the only thing we have is the how it came to this and focusing on the events that framed this to happen

It's quite naive to assume that making Paradis the scapegoat would suffice to solve the world's problems just because nations are temporarily uniting to wipe it out.
As well-intentioned Warriorfags want to paint Magath as despite him endorsing a plan where an entire island would become the target of the world's ire, Eldians would still be around and the Warrior program would obviously not be shut down as long as Marley was still lagging behind other nations on a military tech level. If they secured the FT like they were planning, then they would find themselves in the same situation as a Paradis that would have hypothetically enacted the 50 year plan, but much more delicate as they aren't a closed off nation but a militaristic and colonial power: they realistically wouldn't be able to let go of the Rumbling due to its unmatched power. There's no real scenario where Eldians from around the globe would suddenly be accepted by the rest of the world and the different nations would permanently forget about their beef with each other (or most of the time just with Marley) and there would eventually be need for a new scapegoat. Eren would have even less reason now to see this solution as viable than he did back when he was still ignorant about the outside world.

You were waiting for this right?

Speedreaders.

The Colossal titan shifter can create tons of heat but is limited by a total energy cap.

Mindless colossal titans, especially when commanded by the coordinate, would not have this limitation. Can you imagine all of those colossal titans sprinting at full speed?

The amount of energy released would stop any projectile launched at them. They would essentially be a wall of atomizing heat.

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>had him eaten
no they couldnt have, he was the wildcard in the way that since he was an extremely trusted part of the SC they would never have given him up, especially after so many of levis comrades had died so he could make it to today. Ultimately, eren had a huge part to play in historias decision

Heh

>People wrongly assume the wine plan was foolproof when it wasn't.
Based on what? He titanized every single one in the forest and created total chaos right now in Shingashima saying it wasn't failproof while pregnancy was is hilarious since they even thought about transforming her when pregnant. Manga clearly points to Zeke having a way out without the pregnancy and is arguably maxed out in intelligence most likely knew what he was doing especially if he never required assistance from Eren or someone else in surviving.

Even Manlet and the SL were planning to have someone eat Eren and have his powers, he was useless in the grand scheme of things

>how would you take down THE COLASSAL TITAN
>gives reasonable examples as to how
>AHAHAHAH I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WALL TITANS
die retard

Id like to say that even though im currently arguing with a bunch of you retards I love you all the same.

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Look at the people I'm responding to. They are talking about the rumbling. Stop speed reading.

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Ymir and Annie

which is where the wine comes into play

Dude no one cares about Eren, Zachary was planning on having him be eaten after Marley.
If Eren was revealed to be a traitor by Historia i can say with 100% confidence that he would have been captured and eaten on the spot.

you responded to me and i was ralking about the colassal titan when i said planes are making titans in general obselete

which again, where his lack of trust and own planning involving zeke, wine and the volunteers came into play. even though we like to meme 3/10 eren has come a very long way since, hes more like 8/10 or 9/10 wit at this point

Pffft haha.

Have Porco climb him and munch his neck.
Have the WT aim one of those big ass spikes through his neck.

The thing is the pregnancy if planned doesn't guarantee Zeke and Historia's safety more than the wine already did, as it is in no way foolproof either and actually adds risks that didn't exist before. What the fuck does Eren do if Historia dies 9 months from now in childbirth? What does he do if the govt acts dumb and feeds Zeke to a placeholder just so they wouldn't have to deal with his shit? If both scenarios were respectively brought up in universe and actually played out then those were risks that should have been acknowledged by whoever planned this pregnancy while taking into account the fact that an insurance already existed, even if not 100% foolproof.

>He titanized every single one in the forest and created total chaos right now in Shingashima

He had to wait an entire month to be sure everyone drank the wine before he made a move. And he still failed because manlet defeated him pretty effortlessly. There's little reason to think the result would have been any different had he screamed as soon as they landed on Paradis.

>they even thought about transforming her when pregnant.

They thought about it but didn't, because the risk of doing so outweighed the benefits.

>most likely knew what he was doing especially if he never required assistance from Eren or someone else in surviving.

It's not about protecting Zeke, it's about protecting Historia. Zeke doesn't care at all about her, leaving her fate in his hands is dangerous.

Which post that I linked to was talking about the colossal titan shifter?

All of them that I just checked are referring to
1. The rumbling explicitly
or
2. Implies they are talking about the rumbling by using plural language when talking about the colossal titans. i.e. "them"

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And that still wouldn't matter if Historia had revealed his plan so early on. Stop being a retard please.

Not sure what you guys are talking about, but actually, Zackley was going to let explain himself (possibly even let AM meet him). Of course Eren put a huge dent into that idea.

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*let Eren

i used them talking about normal titans, aircraft weapons are making them obselete

You need to learn how english works. You were responding to a question about colossal titans not normal titans. If you don't specify anything else "them" refers to the original post which would be colossal titans.

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so what youre saying (correct me if um wrong since i have no idea who im arguing against at this point ) is that if historia cared about her people, she wouldve revealed erens plan (assuming she knew it) for the betterment of paradis

>What the fuck does Eren do if Historia dies 9 months from now in childbirth?

That's up to Historia, I think. She would certainly know such risks exist. If she was okay with it I don't see why Eren wouldn't be.

>What does he do if the govt acts dumb and feeds Zeke to a placeholder just so they wouldn't have to deal with his shit?

That very nearly happened anyway, so I don't see what difference it makes?

>If both scenarios were respectively brought up in universe and actually played out then those were risks that should have been acknowledged by whoever planned this pregnancy

I mean, I'm fairly confident if the pregnancy ends up being planned that we will see these discussions.

He wanted to extract informarion before eating him, Zackley couldn't allow to have a wildcard such as Eren roaming free. It's pretty obvious he intended to take him out.

you may be right, but fuck you anyways plus we dont know how the wall collassals work, its not like they have infinits energy or someshit so they most likely have the same weakness of getting thinner as they expend heat

Yes, and then procceed to act as the royal titan for the next holder of the FT. Also it's not that Historia doesn't care about her people, it's that she is cares more about her own well-being.

It's been said before but Manlet being a problem was never gonna change, pregnancy or not. If 300 fucking soldiers were infected over the last three years then it's safe to assume his scream would have done some serious damage, regardless of whether he waited a month or had to scream earlier as he was transported to where he would be eaten.
>It's not about protecting Zeke, it's about protecting Historia
Protecting Zeke = protecting Historia. If Zeke can't be eaten then Historia obviously wouldn't be titanized, that should go without saying. The wine protects Zeke in the same measure it protects her, and assuming her pregnancy was orchestrated to protected is assuming Eren was paranoid enough to come up with a plan that would potentially risk Historia's life just for double insurance when ZY had already carefully laid out a widescale plan which was supposed to be that insurance years before Eren was even informed about it.

Zeke wanted to protect his own life idiot, why would he sentence himself to death if he didn't have a plan to survive

Eren was already considered an uncontrollable element by that time. Whether he shared anything or not he would have been charged with treason, ans this time he wouldn't have gotten away with a slap on the wrist. He would have been fed to a pawn either way, so he did well not to speak up, if anything.

>Protecting Zeke = protecting Historia.

It's not. As I said, they don't even need Zeke. If they were desperate enough they could titanize her and feed Armin to her. Zeke does not care about her wellbeing and there's no reason to think he'd go out of his way to protect her. Eren would obviously understand this so it's reasonable he'd look for some method of safeguarding her that doesn't rely on Zeke.

He prepared the chair of torture for him.

thats pretty binary, my argument is that her caring more about the people closest to her and herself isnt evil or even bad. Maybe it is to the paradisian govt but on an individual level and from her character arc it makes sense to think she would be more selfish

Zeke need himself to survive you absolute brainlet, he doesn't want to die of course he had a plan to survive, stop talking shit already

It's bad from a objective point of view, you can agree and sympathize with her tho