Now that the dust has settled, can we agree which part's ending was more satisfying?
Part 4's ending was more satisfying because Kira deserved it. Diavolo didn't.
4's because there wasn't 7 mindfuck abilities going on at the same time so you could actually focus on enjoying the fight
Part 4’s. I like the battle between Josuke and Kira and how it ended in a way that suited their town life. The epilogue in the last episode of part 4 added is great. I like going back and rewatching it now and then. Part 5’s Mista rock sort of sucked.
4 was more satisfying because 5 fucking sucks
Agreed.
Diavolo was clearly the one who was worthy.
GIVE HIM THE FUCKING ARROIW
Part 5 is the philosopher-king's ending.
6
>implying Kira deserved Dead Man's Questions
This, part 5's ending felt too cold to me. In addition, the ending just felt like a ruined orgasm. Where Kira is damn near dead by the last episode, they at least continue the build up, and conclude with what actually happened to him. I could rewatch that over and over again, as it's not a cluster fuck of bullshit to understand.
Unironically preferred 6's ending over 5's, since I was way more emotionally invested. And Jotaro's involvement and fate is pottery
part 5 is great the first 80% but has a bad ending
part 4 is the inverse
I still prefer part 4's cozy "everyone is a potential stand user and an asshole" take. I still think the rat part is easily my favorite battle too, along with a lot of interesting character dynamics
Doesn't DMQ cheapen Reimi and everyone's efforts?
At least it's not in the actual story.
>Part 1 Ended as well as it could
>Part 2 was a perfect ending for Joseph
>Part 3 was bittersweet and set everything up for the future.
>Part 4 was good if you consider Araki's Eternal Morioh angle
>Part 5 had a strange ending, but that entire part had a lot of Araki playing around, Mista probably had the best poetic ending.
>Part 6's ending was decided less by what was set up, but more for what was needed for Part 7.
>Part 7 was the right amount of Bittersweet and Awesome
God, I hope Part 8 ends well, it's getting there, but I just want a "relatively" happy ending.
To be fair, he did get a pretty baller hat.
Part 5 had the best fights, and the best setting. I was never a huge fan of part 4 aside from the Kira slice of life.
I liked it but tamami, hazamada and jankenboy are way below any of part 5 minor villains
I didnt rewatch any of the former 3 fights once but I rewatched prosciutto vs bruno over 50 times etc
Part 6 ending was KINO. Can't wait for the anime
>>Part 6's ending was decided less by what was set up, but more for what was needed for Part 7
this meme has to stop, part 6's ending has nothing to do with part 7. araki could have started SBR after any other part and it would still make sense because SBR-verse isn't caused by Pucci's world resetting, its just a reimagination of the franchise. SO ending was pure kino because araki intended to end jojo there and it needed a satisfying conclusion
Based
>jolyne gets rekt and a 6 year old and weather's meme stand save the day
>satisfying
considering the endings of other parts its way more fucking satisfying, better than
>MUH THE SAME TYPE OF STAND
>MUH 300 IQ 10 YEAR OLD
>MUH ARROW THAT DOESN'T CHOOSE EVIL PEOPLE TO POWER UP
even if you don't look at previous parts the only thing people point out about SO's ending is what you said, which was clearly set up fairly at the end of the Heavy Weather arc. also personal opinion but protagonists losing real fucking bad is a feel of fresh air from other parts
Eagerly waiting for anime only's to react.
>not being satisfied
you need to go back to highschool
Fuck you it Jolyne's death is amazing
Also I'm too lazy to find the black and white version but at a minimum Made in Heaven should be read in B & W
Part 1 still has the most impactful ending
The part 4 ending is better by a long shot. It wraps up everything and has a satisfying conclusion, complete with a climactic fight with the final villain. part 5's just feels empty and abrupt. it's just "k giorno is boss, here's a fight with a rock btw" I feel like part 4 and 5 are inverses of eachother. Part 4 started off weak and ended strong with a great main antagonist while part 5 started off strong but ended weak with a shitty main antagonist. seriously araki, how hard is it to tells us some of this shit?
>What is the mafia under Giorno like now?
>Did he inform Koichi about everything like he said he would
>Does he ever meet Jotaro?
>Does Polnareff tell him about his dad? the whole "son of dio" thing never comes up besides the beginning
It's very kino, but the fact that DIO comes back anyway kinda cheapens it for me. Well, at least he manages to save Erina and the babies.
>satisfying conclusion
>no FF
you stone ocean fanboys need to get your priorities straight
Part 5. Had way more poetic justice than part 4's ending. But part 4 is still better for having all sorts of crazy happenings all the way through than the linear plot of part 5.
>finally find people irl to discuss jojo with
>they are anime-only
>they all don't like the ending of part 4
>"it's too anticlimactic" "not as cool as part 2 or 3 endings"
You don't have to agree with me that it's the best but to say part 4 has a bad ending is the stupidest goddamn thing. The last fight between Josuke and Kira is fucking kino because it isn't major city-wide or over a volcano into space. The fact that it's a sniping fight where you can actually see the characters think things through is tight as fuck, and Kira getting smushed by an ambulance is poetic justice - he's killed by what should have been the luckiest of breaks, a sudden goddamn ambulance. The only thing I dislike is that Jotaro got the last hit.
Maybe the manga hits harder? I love when I'm so engaged in a book that I can't put it down no matter what and that last fight hooked me like nothing before. Pure quality.
>sacrificing yourself to save a kid, just like Jonathan did
>not satisfying
I thought it was a nice parallel.
All I wanna say is, Spice Girl is an incredibly underrated stand. It completely negates all power types if used correctly. Almost The Hand tier in terms of how little its power was shown. Okuyasu fucking ERASES his own death and has no idea that he did it.
>Spice Girl is an incredibly underrated stand
Yeah, because it appears for 3 seconds.
In part 4 ending a kid found a way to break a time loop just in three loops, realized Kira's ability without being able to see stand abilities, willingly got blown up into bits in blind trust that Josuke could fix him up with his ability. There was also a stupid bubble sniper battle but otherwise it was great.
In part 5 Polnareff that is in a turtle grows a second head and it has no effect on the story except for giving an arbitary time limit that is never mentioned again.
>The only thing I dislike is that Jotaro got the last hit.
No no, that was Amby-kun, wasn't it?
Vitamin C is Spice Girl done properly
>In part 5 Polnareff that is in a turtle grows a second head and it has no effect on the story except for giving an arbitary time limit that is never mentioned again.
>Part 9 is a space adventure about finding out the origin of the Meteorite
>OBEY JESUS
Wow, so deep.
But that's part 7
No it isn’t.
Jobin isn't the main villain, Jojolion will end with Jobin and Josuke coming to an understanding. The head doctor is Norisuke III.
>Already 22 volumes of Jojolion
Do we even have an idea of when it's going to end?
>Diavolo didn't deserve it
Shut up, Doppio.
Agreed.
Bites the Dust = Rolling Stones > Diavolo vs. Buccelati’s gang (or what’a of it) > Josuke vs. Kira
Janken Boy is worth it just for Rohan and that dumbass kid jumping 500 feet into the air to play Rock, Paper, Scissors like it's fucking Dragon Ball Z.
Rank the parts only by their respective ending
3>2>4>1>5
AHEM,
If a part's ending has no narrator telling you what the characters were up to afterwards it's shit!
Part 5
1>4>3>2>5
5, because Kira had absolutely no build up. There's no fucking reason to get invested in Josuke's conflict with him considering Josuke doesn't even give a shit.
Arnold got the last hit, nerds.
4>5>3>1>2
You don't know anything about part 7 and just want to look like you do, don't you?
It will probably sound kind of edgy, but part 4 ending feels weird to me, since none of the main characters has died or suffered lasting injuries. In other parts you feel the weight of victory, because it's paid in heavy sacrifices, but part 4 characters had it somewhat easy. It makes part 4 feel a bit fresher and lighter, but also makes it an outlier.
>Mista probably had the best poetic ending.
Biggest issue with 5's ending. PROBABLY. Wished we had a narrator telling us what the characters got up to after the part
>obey jesus
>when bruno's defiance against his fate is what eventually pawes the way to victory over diavolo
That’s JESUS, not OBEY JESUS. Don’t blame me if you can’t tell the difference.
His defiance of fate in favor of the “true fate” of Jesus.
build up means jack when the character you're building up is garbage, like diavolo
Because Crazy Diamond can just unfuck whatever Killer Queen does.
Sleeping slaves made part 5's shitty ending even shitter
I think GER is really cool, but lately I feel like Part 5's final battle was all a coincidence. Like everyone was rushing to the final battle before you realized it, and then it was over before you realized it too.
With Kira, the final battle was a coincidence, but it felt more like a sudden crash into a wall after steadily escalating stakes coincided with Kira becoming too arrogant and fucking himself over. It felt, ironically, like a slip of fate. Like evil destroying itself.
Part 5 just felt like, "Oh well, we're here now."
not true, if KQ blows up something completely Josuke has nothing to work with
>Music starts.
5>1>4>2>3
This is true. SBR wasn't even part of the Jojo series until it started selling like shit, causing Araki to rename it.
Part 2
Trish is Araki making all the bad decisions
1) she need to be protect , but have the only good destructive power
2) unlock the stand just in the point here all characters besides giorno and bucerati became irrelevants
3) appears in the point of the history Araki stop give a fuck
In fact all characters in the team are interesting, but Araki don’t develop nothing with they
ok ESL kun
>it wasn't jojo
>it was just about an alternate jojo universe
But that doesn't make sense, it's practically bizarre
I guess that's why we have Johnny "Jojo" Joestar, Gyro Zeppeli, Diego "Dio" Brando and Stands all before it got the Jojo name
>Part 5 takes place in Italy
>not a mention of the Zeppeli family
Is Araki braindead? Also how DO you fuck up a great concept like Dio's son being the next JoJo so badly? It's like he just thought of it randomly on the spot merely to excuse the title being JoJ-ohh...
This post is awkwardly worded, but I agree Trish is emblematic of a lot of decisions Araki made that weren't for the best.
Idk why the anime didn't fix the ending of part 5, they did it for part 4 and it was satisfying as it had an abrupt ending as well, but somehow they couldn't add 5 minutes of animation showing how giorno became the boss or the burial of their fallen comrades.
The only reason that it wasn’t named Jojo from the start is because Shueisha wanted to advertise it as a new series.
You can't polish a turd.
1>3>6>2>4>7>
Yeah, and they should’ve also made Tonio’s brother a member of Passione. Why did Araki pass up such a great opportunity?
Wasn't confirmed that Araki wanted it to be part 7 since the beginning but his editor told him not to?
Stands are a reflexion of their user's willpower, but they aren't created specifically for the user, they already exist prior to the user in another dimension and get may get linked to a fitting/matching user through the use of the arrow/the corpse/through heredity or for some other reason.
Requiem stands and other cheat code process to get a broken stand are ways to reach deeper more easily into that dimension, depending on how deep the process goes, you may end up with something stronger than fate.
That is all.
Source : head canon
Part 2 says hello.
both endings were awful
Josuke didn't even know or have anything against Kira
and Diavolo's "fight" lasts for a second
That is incorrect.
They polished The Lock and Cinderella
Stands are aliens trying to possess their users. Mikitaka fully succumbed to the infection, which is why he identifies as an alien.
That light novel was pretty crap, I don't expect every character to be a part of the wacky mob, on the contrary, part 5 needed a balance.
>source: dude trust me
>best theme
>useless and the worst character
4
Sleeping Slaves is kino though
See the difference is that part 2 is actually fun.
>part 6's ending has nothing to do with part 7
Okay speed reader
>be JoJo YouTuber
>all I want to do is make MAD's and music videos
>they get absolutely no views and I'm lumped in with the rest of the "THE BRILLIANCE OF RATT" faggots
who?
and well, jojo community is really normie
rat arc was briliant tough
>20-40 minutes overanalyzing a character that only had 5 chapters of exposure
>forcing meaning into random names
>forcing meaning into song lyrics and the fight
>headcanon fest
Still animeonlyfags watch them to "argue" on jojo threads
I used to unironically do amphetamines and make terrible pixel art for these threads 2 years ago if that's any clue
True, but I mean they're like: "YO, MAN WHO WAS THAT NIGGA THAT SAVED JOSUKE FROM THE SNOWSTORM? JOSUKE IN THE FUTURE? I MEAN BRO, HE LOOKS JUST LIKE HIM. NAH, IGNORE THE FACT JOSUKE WANTED TO LOOK LIKE HIS HERO LATER ON AND THAT THE WHOLE PART IS CENTERED AROUND SMALL ACTS OF KINDJHNESS
It's kind of irrelevant to what you said but why do so many JoJo casuals pretend to understand how certain Stand powers work. This series attracts a lot of retards.
It's a series for retards after all.
And I wouldn't have it any other way
The fight was lackluster as hell though and then it ended with kira just falling into the street and getting ran over in the most anti climactic ending possible.
t. Hiatuscuck
The fight was great, had josuke using the trick he learned from Jotaro while giving it his own twist. Part 5 is just: I HAVE ARROW I WIN
Ok, but the real question is where the fuck can I buy a weather report hat?
>series for retards
>literal hiatus cuck
HxH nigger detected go back to your paste eating thread you mong.
Isn't it his hair though?
I can't remember much about sleeping slaves, except that I skipped watching it because I didn't care about the flashback and it was boring in the manga. But I also remember a ton of people praising it a few years ago. I can't remember why.
No one was talking about that series.
It's never stated one way or the other. But even so, someone can easily make a fur hat like that and it looks comfy and I want it.
It's a hat, it just looks exactly like his hair.
To be fair that Black Sabbath finger thing was pretty clever and neat
It's actually funny what he says about Notorious BIG. He literally made the stand and the character just so Trish would have something to do. Also because he wanted to draw a silly looking guy.
>okay speedreader
>speedreads not only the manga but the posts on Yea Forums too
if you work your last remaining 3 brain cells hard enough you might be able to read the second sentence in that post which says that Pucci's world reset didn't crrate the SBR-verse and anyone who says otherwise is a retarded speedreader like you. if you can't fucking read go back to your jojotubers and continue consuming their regurgitated and dumbed down videos, at least there you won't be called a speedreader since they all circlejerk their headcanons there
I am in my bed, holding my tears off. I don't have the force to jerk off anymore even, and i feel sad and depressed.
I finished watching part 5, and god damn i did the mistake of having Narancia as my favorite character.
I miss her so much.
Part 6 is actual dog shit and I'm going to tell you why.
The art is garbage. Female anatomy is all over the place. Jolyne's hips and limbs are constantly the worst thing I've seen with my two eyes.
Jolyne is a terrible Jojo. Her entire character is based on daddy issues. And that's it. First it was I hate my father and then drastically into I have to do this for my father despite my feeligns 10 minutes ago.
Her supporting cast is not good. Not one of them. The only decent character is Weather Report and he's a memoryless sister banging faggot.
My biggest problem with six is that it's gross. And not body horror gross it's because they made everything unnecessarily sexual because Jolyne is a girl. The first chapter is Jolyne masturbating. And the next couple is her rolling around naked. None of the boys have ever been written like that. None of the boys talk about masturbating. None of the boys are ever really seen outside their uniforms. Just Jolyne. Just the girls are like this and it's disgusting and gross. And it's only done because most of the cast is female. Jolyne in crisis talking about how she's jealous about how snails can fuck anything. Hermes actually saying "dries up like a maxi pad," are you fucking kidding me?
I'm glad you all love part six because the tits make your dick hard but to defend this shit is ridiculous. It's the weakest most poorly written part by far and reading it was agony.
The only thing that saved this part, if you could call it saved, is Pucci. Pucci is good and I'm glad he reset the universe so none of this god awful part ever technically happened.
To be fair I've seen multiple jojo youtubers claim that part 6 ending has absolutely nothing to do with SBR. Xforts did and he's the biggest.
Isn't fate eventually going to bring it all back together though? Just an endless loop over and over again for infinity time. It's like Haruhi's 8 days but so much worse.
Shigechi
Who's the absolute worst jojotuber? IMO the fag with brown haired giorno as his profile picture
Definitely 4. Kira’s defeat was more satisfying and the ending with town life returning to normal and everyone just going about their lives was a perfect conclusion given that the main goal of Part 4 was always simply to protect the town.
I was going "Was that it?" when Part 5 ended.
I watched 2 of his stand tierlist videos before I realized he had no fucking idea what he was talking about
t. Diavolo
Also remember it was a pretty balsy move to do in that era when no protagonist dies ever.
Who?
Ashita no Joe did it better
youtube.com
>this was never played
the music director is really incompetent
link
S.S Leitmotifs
I am a jojotuber, but small enough so you probably don't know me and I made like 2 MAD's I think are pretty nice and he had beef with me over a fucking piece of advice I gave him for his SO MAD. I also spoke to him on one of his streams and he seemed like an entitled asshat. btw he doesn't even make good MAD's
Part 3, 2 and 7
who jojotuber are you
That fag with brown Giorno is the only answer. He’s a literal Part 5 sperg who tries to be a “le wacky meme” YouTubee
Part 4's, this isn't even a debate.
>Great Days (Bites the Dust Ver) was much better execution than Traitor's Requiem (Diavolo ver)
>Josuke actually fights Kira and it's an actual stand battle instead of an asspull-off up until Kira gets an asspull, so Josuke has to counter-asspull
>Kira is just a better antagonist, Diavolo is carried by how cool King Crimson is
>Kira's weird as fuck origin story monologue to the poor nurse
>Y-YATTAZO
>Even if you feel Josuke should've gotten to finish off Kira, Jotaro getting to finish him off with a last-second time stop is still really cool, and certainly better than Giorno getting the I-win stand and finishing him with one regular barrage- Jotaro fighting The World was still a fight, and time stop is a better ability than time skip.
This is probably a bad idea, but fuck it I'm drunk: youtube.com
Part 4 actually had closure for the characters. Part 5 decided to focus on some rocks
Rolling Stone is probably the best part of the last arc, just because Mista is probably the most likable character in P5, and Sex Pistols are a great stand. The ending would've been pure garbage if it just dropped with a where-are-they-now section after GER happens.
King Crimson's stand reveal was easily the best, even with his unfocused eyes
What were they even thinking with those goblin ears on KQ?
Rolling Stones was decent but it shouldn’t have been at the end. Or at least more chapters/episodes should have come after it so we could actually got a conclusion
youtube.com
bad taste
Why do you think so?
Deserve what?
Part 5 sucks and so does it's ending.
Since the anime ended these threads have been getting better. Is it a coincidence?
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Part 1 was kino
>The art is garbage
art is subjective so im not gonna argue about that
>jolyne is the worst jojo bla bla daddy issues
this is an argument of every single speedreader, they degrade the character just by this single point just to hop on 6-shitting bandwagon. she is easily the second best written jojo right behind jonny. her character takes everything good from jotaro and adds more personality and expressiveness to it resulting in overall an entertaining and strong main character. if you dont hate jotaro, which you don't judging from your post, then how the fuck do you dislike jolyne. also
>not thinking that girono is the single worst written character in jojo
>Her supporting cast is not good
what is Foo Fighters, a character that grew from being a colony of planktons to a CONSCIOUS FUCKING BEING WITH A SOUL, what is weather report and his connection with Pucci
>sister banging faggot
imagine degrading a character's backstory this badly just to push your plebbit driven agenda
>they made everything unnecessarily sexual
why are your points from the begging of part 6? did you really only read the start or is that only what you can remember? and why are you getting butthurt over sexual remarks from characters when jojo is riddled with shit-tier toilet humor at the same time? how the fuck do you even last 2 seconds on Yea Forums, you're literally complaining about a woman being naked you absolute virgin, also
>plebbitt spacing
your entire opinion and arguments go perfectly along with your spacing
>responding to pasta
Its just a copypasta, even if you are correct
Is a guy who's sexually attracted to beetles really going to be our antagonist for Part 8?
We had a main villain who was sexually attracted to cold, dead, stinky, crunchy severed hands and wiped his ass with them
Bruno is a Gary Stu. At 20 he’s already a respected, charismatic gangster with a strong, versatile stand who is adored by the whole city and his gang. The only people who express dislike for him are villains, and even then they often begrudgingly respect him. Bruno’s only real weakness is his ‘kindness’ as listed in his personality page, which is an unconvincing and totally uninteresting flaw. He shows assholish tendencies at times but they’re mainly directed towards antagonists (who of course deserve it) or small quips like when he makes fun of Abbacchio’s arm, though the latter moments are rare and feel strangely out of place in the same way the Gangster dance does. Either way these traits get downplayed by fans who portray him as a perfect saint and gangster prince who overshadows Giorno. That’s not even mentioning his treatment in the story which involves cheating death and being escorted to heaven by literal angels.
His role in the story is also a mess. He can’t be considered a protagonist as he admits himself that he had been slowly wasting away and was only ‘resurrected’ by Giorno’s intervention. For that same reason he can’t be described as a mentor, especially because he doesn’t really teach Giorno anything significant. He fails to fit the ‘Brojo’/sidekick mould as his relationship with Giorno is not clearly defined and this role is better fulfilled by Mista, who also happens to have the most interactions with the rest of the gang; this reflects badly on Bruno who is meant to be the ‘leader’ that brought the whole group together: the only real thing you’re told is that they have respect for him. The only way Bruno can be a functional character is if he were merged with Giorno or reworked entirely.
the araki writing process:
>thinks of something crazy
>that'd be pretty cool
>how do i justify this happening?
What was with the last episode for part 5?
>BTW, here's this thing that happened with a rock that predicts people's death. Everyone predicted by the rock has already died at this point anyway though, lol
Uh, cool??
So does that confirm that his hat isn’t a musical reference?
i once someone explain sleeping slaves as being a wrap up to the overarching themes of part 5, something about being unable to fight your ultimate fate but being able to use your time to make a difference, or something. Bucciarati was doomed from the start, but he soldiered on anyway and made a real difference (and really beat diavolo more than giorno did) before he went.
Based STONEOCHAD
well shit i guess my entire opinion falls apart now
And this is why Gyro is without a doubt the best Jobro.
Please stop responding to pastas, for the love of god.
Nah you're still right about Jolyne and F.F.
Why didn't the arrow work when King Crimson stabbed himself? Do you have to do it in the chest for it to work, or was he not """worthy"""
Diavolo became intangible because Bruno was destroying the light thing.
>Animeonlyfags' reaction to SO ending: REEEEEEEEEEEE
I'm just imagining Youtubers talking about how SBRverse is the Irene-verse
>her
bruno destroyed chariot in that instant, so the soul swapping started reversing. That's all.
>mfw there are about 3 images of narancia from the anime that don't make her look like a steroid user
I’ve done nothing but listen to gangster’s paradise since part 5 ended
Legendary post.
I am in my bed, holding my tears off. I don't have the force to jerk off anymore even, and i feel sad and depressed.
I finished watching part 4, and god damn i did the mistake of having Shigechi as my favorite character.
I miss her so much.
Part 4 is better overall and has a good finale.
Part 5 has a couple of good fights, all but one of them involving the Hitman Team the only one that doesn't is Notorious B.I.G. by the way, Green Day/Oasis is overrated and a shit finale.
Part 4's "O MY POINTLESS CONFESSION" is not an actual asspull at all, it was all planned and made perfect sense.
Part 5 finale is nothing but asspull on top of asspull after Polnareff is killed, with an asspull after finale section to pretend that the other asspulls weren't asspulls. There were plenty of legitimate and creative ways to defeat Diavolo, but Araki went for the biggest and most overpowered asspull any JoJo ever had.
based
pretty based if you ask me
her?
The only thing 5 had going for it is that Giorno was the one to finish off Diavolo. Josuke didn't but his head in and say "My crazy diamond has restored the time that KC has erased" then Diavolo gets hit by a car
Otherwise, Part 5's ending is a fucking poorly written mess because Araki wrote himself into a corner.
>josuke didn't butt his head in and say "My crazy diamond has restored the time that KC has erased"
would've been based 2bh
crazy diamond requiem when
Agreed. Also see how hilariously different he is in the dumb flashback arc compared to the first chapter he's introduced. In SS he's portrayed as some depressed saintly figure and then you get sassy playful interrogative Bruno when he meets Giorno. You might say he's putting on a show, but with that added new context it just doesn't connect naturally in any way. I miss when they had hints of personality at the very beginning. And while the beginning is what still showed some potential promise for VA, the seeds of messy shit were already being planted like GE changing what it does every time it shows up, Giorno's backstory and motivation, how the gang works etc.
>He can’t be considered a protagonist as he admits himself that he had been slowly wasting away and was only ‘resurrected’ by Giorno’s intervention.
This was the dumbest shit. He basically sacrifices the trust of all his team members who apparently admire and respect him and have known him for quite some time for some literal nobody he just met that said drugs are bad but only for kids. I thought they all disliked it? Or do they? What the hell are the relationships of these characters? The story wants us to think of Bruno as this angel that picks kids of the streets, but he's just inadvertently forcing them into a criminal organization. It's insultingly tone-deaf.
I see VA as just a list of neat little ideas here and there, it still has some of my favourite main-group stands (even if most are underutilized) but it would require a complete change of story to make proper use of these characters and setting. As it is, it's a complete waste of potential, and especially of Giorno as a concept.
>grabs nearby encyclopedia
>reads one paragraph on the subject
>'there, all set'
Could Stone Free Requiem beat Made In Heaven?
String Theory.
Part 4 and Part 6 have the best final fights , although 5 is slightly better overall
part 4 because kira looked kino as fuck in it
>something about being unable to fight your ultimate fate but being able to use your time to make a difference
Completely contradicted its point in the very same chapter cus the florist's daughter choosing the easy way out instead of this romanticized prolonged suffering ended up saving her father's life. Who's to say Bruno dying on the spot wouldn't trigger a chain of different positive effects for the neighbourhood? He IS a criminal at the end of the day no matter how much you try to paint him as a saint. It totally can if you write it that way, it just becomes a trolley problem. Their path to defeating Diavolo was a load of contrived bullshit upon bullshit anyway.
Also if you say everything was fated, nothing really matters anymore cus everything was going to ultimately play out like that either way. And some characters are given convenient literal plot-armor just cus. It's dumb.
>there are actually people on Yea Forums who believe that the mafia isn’t heroic
What would be SFR’s power?
The ability to manipulate reality through strings.
I still like him but it's true, he completely changes his personality just like Giorno. Bruno after his fight with Giorno is basically characterized as "A good gangster leader who loves children" and thats
>it's a complete waste of potential, and especially of Giorno as a concept.
Yeah, the fact that he was the son of Dio didn't mean anything to the plot
I hate part 5 so much, VA has so many good concepts but Araki just did bullshit with it. It started well, after Giorno joined the gang it lost a bit of charm but the team was funny, then trish came to be a plot device to find the boss more quickly, and basically her presence made part 5 a MotW like part 3. The second half, although it has good moments, feels soulless, and everything related to the final fight is disappointment
thats just Stur Purachina: Oba Hebun
Okay the ability to slow down time. Or is that just GER?
something something string theory
something something moving freely in the 4th dimension
>build the fuck out of Josuke only for Jotaro to be the hero in the end.
The answer is part 5 because it didnt treat it's main character as an ultimately irrelevant extra to someone significantly stronger.
Josuke still did a lot of work to weaken Kira.
Yeah alright that could work.
This makes more sense than it should
How so? It seems like a good end to Kira, no stand, no peace, spending the rest of eternity killing other serial killers but not understanding why.
I can't wait for the shitstorm when Emporio shows up in part 8
I feel like Part 4 had the better ending but it was still retarded how it played out.
I fucking hate Josuke
>"heroically" claims he's going to protect Morioh
>doesn't give a shit when Koichi tells him about the serial killer
>doesn't even consider that if he wasn't caught in 15 years then maybe something is going on
>even if he wasn't a stand user, that gives them more reasons to try since they'd have an advantage
>literally doesn't care that people are dying left and right
>doesn't do shit after the face swap
>when Rohan tells him about Hayato's lead, he still doesn't give a shit and gets angry, claiming he has to go to school instead
>so much for "I'm going to protect this city"
>literally the only reason he was part of the final fight was because Hayato happened to call him
>had Hayato called anyone else, they'd have fought instead
And to name other things
>sees how Yukako tried to murder a girl
>says "nah, Koichi will be fine, let's leave her alone"
>Koichi procedes to get kidnapped
>cruelly screams at a 90 y/o man for something that wasn't even his mistake
>after trying to scam Rohan and thus setting in motion the events that got his house on fire, and after Rohan tried warning him about the tunnel, he still has the audacity to sperg out and scream at him, when it was all his fault and Rohan knew what was more important
>Miyamoto's fate, when in the first arc previous stand users had done worst shit
For example
>Yukako kidnapped what to her was a non stand user, was going to torture and then kill him
>Hazamada made a guy gouge his eye out due to waifu shit and almost got Josuke to stab Jotaro
>Kobayashi almost got Koichi's mom to kill herself
>Rohan almost kills Koichi and gets Okuyasu to kill himself
>but nah, golden heart
>except you, you'll be turned into a book for all eternity
I mean I get Angelo, but the Enigma dude was on the same level of prior enemies, jesus.
Man hard to decide. I dont think the endings for either parts were that great. Hayato monologing the whole last fight was really annoying but otherwise it was really good and Kiras death was a perfect twist of irony.
I liked Josuke in the first half but then his character went down the shitter in the second half.
O MY JOSUKE RAIN
Lol I like Shuckmeister. Kaleb is probably the worst though. His favorite part is part 6 and least favorite is part 2. Fuck.
t. Rohan.
...
That’s decent taste.
I also like him, in essence, but all the contradicting stuff at every turn is extremely annoying. He still deserves that leader position at the end way more than Giorno ever should.
>Yeah, the fact that he was the son of Dio didn't mean anything to the plot
Like even when Araki forces Polnareff into this mess by the end you'd THINK that would be of SOME relevance even tho it's late at that point but no. It's all so fanfic-y but EVEN those would jump immediately at that opportunity. Too bad most of these people are too busy writing retarded smutfics to try and maybe give Giorno a more interesting story.
>I hate part 5 so much, VA has so many good concepts but Araki just did bullshit with it.
Precisely this, the only thing worse than shit is shit with great potential.
Part 4 is just awful in general.
Part 1
All of these things mentioned completely stand from a writing and overall narrative perspective, but atleast the part is trying to have fun with it's scenarios akin to an episodic cartoon which is why it's not as insulting to the audience as something like part 5 which take itself way too seriously while having an abysmal plot and characters.
>True, but I mean they're like: "YO, MAN WHO WAS THAT NIGGA THAT SAVED JOSUKE FROM THE SNOWSTORM? JOSUKE IN THE FUTURE? I MEAN BRO, HE LOOKS JUST LIKE HIM. NAH, IGNORE THE FACT JOSUKE WANTED TO LOOK LIKE HIS HERO LATER ON AND THAT THE WHOLE PART IS CENTERED AROUND SMALL ACTS OF KINDJHNESS
But the guy who does the THE BRILLIANCE OF videos just uploaded a video showing evidence that Josuke didn't save himself.
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objectively wrong.
This
DiU somehow managed to be a bigger diarrhea explosion than the first half of SDC
Part 4 is actually my favorite for many reasons, but I do hate its morality inconsistency and Josuke as a whole.
What about his ending?
>Made in Heaven should be read in B & W
why?
>Thinking Jolyne is shit
She's such a good character that she carries the entire damn part. If Jolyne wasn't great I'd unironically tell people to skip six.
Didn't think sbrverse stands came from a meteorite? Was it not the devil's palms?
>Now that the dust has settled
Vento Aureo's last volume was published in 1999. The dust hasn't settled, it's been swept up and tossed into a bin that was emptied years ago.
He probably still hasn’t accepted that the old universe is never coming back.
how to fix part 4:
>remove josuke and okuyasu
>koichi, rohan and yukako are the main characters
>the story kicks off with rohan investigating hauntings, odd things happening in morioh that aren't being explained until he goes down the alley
>he meets reimi in the same way but recognizes her instead of being told by some random grandpa she died to save him
>koichi meets rohan in the same way and goes through his shit but manages it by himself
>rohan ropes koichi into his investigation because he's rohan
>yukako is changed to feisty instead of psychotic and doesn't fade off after cinderella
>tamami, tonio, akira, aya, reimi and yuya are all recurring side characters who make the town feel quirky but don't vanish when araki is done with them
>tamami isn't outright villainous but misguided, koichi goes through the same shit with him but without the involvement of his family
>let's go eat italian happens with koichi and yukako instead
>akira is not evil and gets aged down a bit and becomes one of koichi's classmates, same with yuya
>kira still gets discovered because he's a gigantic retard
>yoshihiro is removed entirely or reworked into actual character
>angelo, keicho, hazamada, shigechi, janken kid, the alien, the tower guy, enigma boy and cheap trick don't exist
Mountain Tim said Devil’s Palms come from meteorite
Besides, that doesn’t account for almost all Higashikatas or Rock niggers having stands
The narrator says that the holy corpse was scattered throughout the continent by natural disasters, which the meteor strike was likely one of. The people of Morioh have stands because the corpse gave the town similar properties to itself and the Devil’s Palms.
>JoJo MAD's
based. this video got me into jojo years ago
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the orignal was way older than 2015, but i guess its gone because of copyright.
either that meti faggot with "the beauty of every irrelevant side character" or that kaleb cunt who goes on a 5 minute tangent in every video
Disney land
You can thank Araki for giving Koichi all of the meaningful character development instead of the main fucking character. Yet, he states that Josuke is his favorite character and the reason why is because he's just a good friend?
Reminder that meti unironically (im not joking at all) has a 6'2 girlfriend that pegs him daily
Killing Narancia was unnecessary and stupid. He did nothing wrong and deserved to live.
Would any group in the series stand a chance in an all-out battle against La Squadra besides post-arrow Buccellati gang?
Koichi's character development was horrendously written, so it kinda saved Josuke from being an even shittier character.
The prision gang because Weather Report
and well, the other members are very strong too
I mean for
Man, Weather Report is so hilariously broken the only upgrade the arrow can do would be to make it GOD
Stardust Crusaders(with time stopping Jotaro)
Doppio and Diavolo
Stone Ocean gang are pretty strong, I could see them pulling it off too.
yes
>Grateful Dead starts aging everyone while the squad is protected by White Album, and anyone who gets close risks getting pulled into the mirror world off of the reflections from the ice, all while anyone at anytime approaching them just bursts into razor blades or gets an unblockable fish hook into their heart
They would just be an AOE of death, maybe someone with a long range ability but even then it can't be physical or it will just get frozen or blocked by Gently Weeps. The only ones I see consistently taking this is Weather Report, Johnny and Gyro, and maybe Duwang Gang if Rohan decides to be useful
Stardust Crusaders would depend on how strong Magician's Red is compared to White Album since no one else would be able to get close physically besides Kakyoin using Emerald Splash I guess, but Grateful Dead would age Avdol to a husk in the process.
Doppio and Diavolo wouldn't be able to get past the old age and cold barrier unless he's fated to take out Prosciutto and Ghiaccio during the skipped time like Narancia, but even then he would lose in the short period of time between time skips
Stone Ocean gang would win because Weather Report is there
God i wish that were me
>Holy corpse scattered by natural disasters
>The corpse parts create Devil's palms
>The wall eyes were caused by an earthquake
So the wall eyes came from Jesus, right?
The worst part is Giorno's motivation.
I kept waiting for some tragic backstory involving drugs, and maybe it was how his stand was awakened, but no.
He just kinda decided gangs were cool one day, then found out the boss was an asshole and wanted to kill him.
I wonder if part 5 improves if you read Giorno as a Dio-tier psychopath that feigns kindness to get people on his side.
The way he reads Bruno like an open book from a single reaction, then calmly tells Bruno to join HIM on his quest to defeat the bossu. Very suspicious.
His life was improved by some gangster who hated drugs and he was inspired by him to go big and make Italy great again.
I didn’t read that, but wasn’t the last panel just the guy sitting on a chair?
This user gets it
The K in Koichi stand for KINO. That’s a fact
Part 4 would be better if the we get the Josuke from the Angelo arc during all the show
Part 4 by a long shot, though the fights leading up to the final better were way better in part 5
Cheap Trick and Superfly had no reason to exist
You have the big gay, user
I can't tell why (Aside from the horrid animation) but part 4's final fight in the anime was really fucking bad, I remember it being a lot better in the manga, also Kira's dad is such a fucking awful character
It was cool to see Mikitaka again, and the stand ability was cool, but it was kinda lame for the fight to just end with "i healed the energy"
I love Anasui! He's a chad.
I love Anasui, he's either trying to flirt, getting angry at something unimportant, or confused as fuck at all times
Anasui is cute and one of my favorite jojo characters. He doesn't deserve hate.
>annasui
>chad
Honestly, Avdol could use Grateful Dead's ability against La Squadra. If he just outputs enough heat, he'd be fucking his own team, but in the process be melting Ghiaccio's ice and aging the La Squadra as well. It really depends on the approach, pretty much.
Anasui fucks Jolyne every night and there's nothing you can about it.
>Enters your arc
>Makes your powers irrelevant
>Steals your spotlight
>Steals your kill
>Thanks your side character for the help
Part 5 was far more satisfying despite being far more convoluted. Fuck Jotaro wank.
The only quality JoJotuber is EX Falchion.
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And if only because of this video.
Shuckmeister, Kaleb, and Meti can suck a railroad spike.
>Enters your arc
>job
>get revived by you
>get 2 panels being badass saving you
>get saved by your beta orbitter
>job again
Wasn't that actually Pucci
So I see a lot of people praise the King Crimson vs Metallica fight but not a lot of people enjoyed Golden Experience vs Green Day. Is there a reason why it's seen as a better fight? I thought it was pretty brilliant and Cioccolata being able to work on his body and remove his fucking spine and shit from that was pretty amazing. Cioccolata felt more like a villain imo
You can think that Part 4 final battle was bad, but is still better than the asspull that was GER
>lol casually my stand have a ability that counter your stand
it can’t be even called a fight, it only lasted 5 minutes
>see thumbnail
>wonder if user is talking about that one MAD
>open in new tab
>try to remember the song
>remember it
>click the tab
>user was talking about that one MAD
Based.
REH
Why do people think of the whole fight as only when diavolo is back in his original body?
That's literally when he already lost, and everything after is just wrapping things up.
Yes.
I fucking love those panels of the character just making a face. FF is probably just thinking "what the fuck is this guy talking about?"
Can you really call it a fight when all Diavolo does is kill Narancia and then either hide or run away from the group.
Because Diavolo as a main villain doesn't feel like he really has an identity. Only in 1/4th of screen time he had was he actually himself. The rest was either hiding in the shadows, hiding in Doppio, or being a rogue soul that had everything he was thinking expressed through King Crimson. Introducing SCR right after Diavolo's reveal kind of felt like bad pacing to me. The battle for the arrow wasn't even that good. It was just them walking slowly through Italy for a few chapters in swapped bodies, then Diavolo goes "heh, i know how to beat SCR" then bucciarati does the same thing and giorno uses the arrow to end the story.
No u
>I wonder if part 5 improves if you read Giorno as a Dio-tier psychopath that feigns kindness to get people on his side.
It really does.
That gangster only hated drugs in the anime.
Meow
>doesn't feel like he really has an identity
That's the entire point of part 5 and why it fits perfectly that he tries to keep hiding as much as he can until the very end when he has no choice.
It’s a shame that we barely got to see him in his own real body, but his personality still shines through in his other forms.
Mysterious villains can be pulled off well. diavolo was not one of them.
6>7>4>1>2>3>>>
Emporio using the sacrifices of his friends to kill Pucci was top tier. Eat shit.
Part 7 had a great ending and I'm still mad that Araki went on to butcher it with Part 8. Johnny deserved better, man.
This is a good one
God I miss Araki's old art style. Is there anything modern that captures that gritty 80's muscular feel?
Not to mention
>does Giorno know he's a Joestar?
Nigga he ded.
At least Trish was hot.
Close. Wall eyes come from NuJesus aka Johnny's corpse.
It's a shame that part 4 leaned super into SoL. I know people enjoy that part but it means there's no real tension to catch Kira when Josuke decides to go fuck with Rohan or something.
I don't mean in the sense of mystery, but quite literally not having an identity. Diavolo spent all his life pretty much not existing.
it was always in his fate to "defy fate" so in reality he didn't defy anything
>Her entire character is based on daddy issues
And yet she still has more character than Giorno.
>Her supporting cast is not good
Emporio and Foo Fighters were good.
>None of the boys are ever really seen outside their uniforms
Nigga read part 1 and 2 again.
>It's the weakest most poorly written part by far and reading it was agony.
Better than part 5.
>asspull-off
This is my problem with latter Jojo 'fights'.
>useless
>worst character
She had her arc when she needed it. Not every character needs to be a fighter.
I dunno why so many people love part 5. Is it because of memes?
Johnny and Gyro could do it.
I know this is a Twitter capture r but this is bullshit right? I can't remember reading anything like that in the manga
The tweet is talking about Purple Haze Feedback, not the manga
>retards think Johnny Joestar is a terrible person
>only going to get worse when animeonlies get in on the meme
Oh, thanks man!
I fucking hate the "Johnny is a selfish asshole" meme, I seriously even wonder if we all read the same thing to begin with?
He joined the race to find out more about the Steel Balls, and he went from observing Gyro to actually engaging with him, trying to get to know him, and when things got tough and Gyro told him to leave, Johnny refused and told him he wouldn't abandon him. Throughout the story you could see how their friendship grew in such an organic matter, to the point where when Johnny is faced with the decision of whether or not to hand over the legs, he chooses his friend. Sure, he cries, he's hurt, he knows he's giving up his chance, but ultimately knows that his friend's life is what's most important and to him, giving the legs was a huge and selfless sacrifice. There's a lot of moments like this, but somehow the fandom reduces him to "lol he's a meanie". How? Where? Sure, he was an asshole during his glory days in his flashbacks, but that's not the same Johnny.
Goddamn, it pisses me off.
You know it's kinda hilarious people on this board consider Kira to be worse than Diavolo considering the latter was a fucking Mafia boss which criminal organisation can be considered to be on par with South American cartels
It’s the whole “enjoy killing vs doing it for other reasons” thing. Some people would rate the mob boss as more evil because they are technically responsible for more deaths, while others would rank the serial killer as more evil because they are killing people purely for the sake of killing.
I would agree on that but when you have someone like Cioccolata you hardly can't be worse than that I would rather get vaporized than being turned into Sashimi
>I seriously even wonder if we all read the same thing to begin with?
Because of it's multiple protagonists the fandom tends to reduce JoJos down to the most simple traits. But Johnny is more than that, and his character growth is relatively subtle, so what they're left with is how he began.
And his kill count, despite the fact almost all of those were in self defence.
I still think eternal death is too fucking extreme, I mean, for someone like Angelo, or hell, even Cioccolatta I could see it being reasonable, but as evil as Diavolo was just.. I don't know, I don't think that out of all villains he was the one who deserved it the most.
Who is best villian?
According to Yea Forums, Kira.
According to normies, Diavolo or Dio.
According to emasculated redditors, Pucci.
Rent free.
The sleeping slaves concept in part 5 just wasn't set up well. I understand that having the entire thing in chronological order will ruin the tension of who lives or dies, but the rolling stones arc just wasn't that compelling of an ending.
I think part 5 just suffers from the antagonist not really feeling any stronger or as strong than the last two bad guys, and the lack of an emotional connection between Giorno and Diavolo. Araki should have added another story arc before the rolling stone arc.
Look how instantly triggered the emasculated redditor gets.
The Ciocolatta fight was ruined because DP made Sex Pistols talk through half of it, even explaining Green Day's ability again for the retarded speedwatchers.
Why is Dio normie
You’re pathetic.
Isn’t that how it was in the manga?
You are
>n-no u
part 4's fight was more about the wits of both fighters, both using their abilities to their fullest potentials to outsmart one another.
part 5's was a race to get the thing
Indeed, but the transition from manga to anime shouldn't be a 100% copy. They removed a lot of things from the manga to keep the pace, and they should have done the same here.
The same with the GER reveal, with Trish explaining the very things happening on screen. This in itself is a problem of the whole Jojo franchise.
>No argument.
Pathetic.
Kira was good in the sense that he genuinely saw nothing wrong in his actions. To him, that was his nature and it wasn't his fault, therefore he shouldn't be judged for it, and later on seeing how his father encouraged him it makes even more sense how he ended up with that mentality.
Pucci made me feel genuinely hate, which I guess means he was successful as a villain. Seeing him slowly descend into pure evil, slowly becoming the very monster he didn't want to be, all without him really realizing and getting more and more deluded by his goal was so.. frustratingly good.
DIO was a fucking bitch who could've have a powerful, rich and successful life if only he hadn't been so thirsty. He already had money, smarts, a good societal position, but nah, gotta be a cunt for shits and giggles.
Diavolo was another whiny bitch but at least it's sort if justified in that he most likely was a literal demon, still, he wasn't really written that well.
Valentine is someone who's good at words, like any politician. The fact that so many in the fandom genuinely bought his lies and consider him a true hero go to show how well written he was and how the fandom fell for his lies. He really was a good talker who made people oblivious to how awful he actually was, both in the manga and irl.
As if you had one.
>Valentine wasn't a hero
Based and cuckpilled
I did and you proved me right by getting triggered.
Which part has the most ass pulls
Every part ending is shit. Araki can't write a good ending for shit. It's always anticlimatic asspulls.
>O my arm
>O my time stop
>O my ambulance
>O my arrow
>O my disc
>O my cold
your ideas are shit and would make for by far the worst part
Is that what you call anyone who isn’t part of your fantasy world?
5, but I'm not even counting the arrow ending, every fight with Giorno in it was too.. convenient? I mean, in p2 and 3 the way both Joseph and Jotaro resolved things sort of made sense: tricks, bluffs, noticing something about your opponent, etc. But in part 5 everything simply worked. During the Cioccolatta fight, for example, "I knew that thing would bounce specifically in that small area there, and then that thing would stab you right there and turn into that, and the momentum would make it so I can do this and that" and all those thoughts and "planning" in like 3 seconds, which just.. how. That's not supposed to work, even if it was planned, the error margin is so big, but these kind of things always work out in p5. I know Jojo isn't realistic by any means, but when victory is achieved in such a convenient way it seriously ruins the immersion.
>one years old
Part 2
Write something better then
> O my cold
??? The fuck are you on about? What the hell did a cold have anything to do with the ending of Steel Ball Run?
This, but the reason Diavolo didn't deserve it is because he's autistic and schizophrenic.
The opposite, however due to his political standing in the manga world they'll never ever admit it.
the only good jojotuber is meti, i respect the research and effort put into every one of his videos even if his points sometimes are a giant stretch. his videos are short, on point and dont go on meaninglessly and his analysis videos are one of the only ones in the entire fandom that shows you what araki was thinking about when writing certain characters, i seriously recommend his channel if you want to know what goes on in Araki's mind when writing
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He never read it, only the Marco dying of a cold panel
Then why was the central characters Jonathan Joestar and a Zeppeli?
Bet you trust MSM too
Because Araki is a hack
can you elaborate on the whole part 7 wasn't meant to be jojo thing? i dont get it
>he is still seething with anger and screaming into the skies
Puccidditors are the worst. Remember - this turd I'm quoting would NEVER like him if Pucci had white skin, brown hair and liked women.
look me in the eyes user and tell me again that part 2 ending was anticlimactic
I unironically loved Part 2's ending.
>dude, just trust me
He’s lying to you.
ambulance is kino
It was a long accepted fact until tumblrite araki apologists showed up.
I'm happy that Araki is drawing women for often as the parts go on. It's annoying how everyone assumed he was gay because of how he draws, and it should serve to disprove that. Nigga loves his tits.
I don’t even like Pucci.
Does anyone
Too bad his art turn shit
Yeah, he really peaked in DIO's World.
I do.
Black Jojo when
same. 3 finale looks great
Is he gay
Man, what is it with JoJos are shit fathers.
George was a cunt for most of Johnathan's life, Jotaro was a shit dad, both Gyro and Johnny's dads were cunts.
Especially Gyro's dad. At least Johnny's had the trauma of his first born dying. Gyro's dad was just a dick.
>At least Johnny's had the trauma of his first born dying. Gyro's dad was just a dick.
He had to struggle with accepting that his daughter is trans.
Joseph was a good dad
>le Jotaro is a bad dad meme
He literally sacrificed the love of his wife and daughter in order to protect them from rogue stand users that could be attracted to him and thus his family. He knew that going away to fight them would make Jolyne grow alone and hate him but he still did everything for her sake. If anything, it was his sheer love for her that made him take such a hard decision.
Kars
Johnny himself was a good dad
Gyro's dad was just preparing his heart for the job, they are doctors AND executioners. He still does the best he could like saving Wekakipo and his sister. Also gave Gyro a cool name
That just means that he had an excuse to be a bad father.
Joseph had a stand and he, by all accounts, was a good dad to Holly.
who cares if people think you’re gay? he have a wife, of course he isn’t going to be gay
Us redditors (me and ) love him.
Epic takedown.
That's not my point. Jotaro was the only one capable of dealing with rogue stand users around the world who'd want to harm him and his family. Joseph was too old, the Morioh gang was mostly just teenagers that still went to school, etc. Jotaro was the only one who could stop those people from being attracted to him and putting his family in danger, so instead he went and sought them out before they could. He spent his life protecting his family while knowing they wouldn't understand his reasons and hate him, but he still did anyway for their sake. It's literally the most selfless act someone could do.
Makes sense. I forgot Marco existed. Every other thing he was referring to was an asspull that lead to the group's victory.
Fuck went
I'm re-reading SBR and is it just me or was there some kind of sexual tension between Johnny and Hot Pants?
Why is Jotaro a huge asshole
i feel as though this whole father complex is a manifestation of Araki's psychology towards father figures.
Why did he have a family if he was just going to neglect them? He's a cunt.
No, Hot Pants is just lewd
Part 4, because the characters didn't bullshit a victory with a power-up and used cunning to beat Kira. Unless you count Okuyasu coming back to life
nice abs, too bad she doesn't have them in the manga
She should, she's the only jojo with a stand that actually fights herself.
So are we just forgetting Gappy beating the shit out of the Aphex twins?
Sorry, I haven't read part 8 yet. I'm rereading part 7, and then I'll read 8.
Hot Pants is best Pants.