Is it really as good as people say?

It wasn’t as good as Madoka.

It didnt live up the Ping Pongs standards.
Also it wasn't as funny as OPM.

What makes you think it was trying to be funny?

Rico is a funny girl.

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That's debatable.

It's pretty good.

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i thought it was p good user,

but like why not just stop being a fagit and watch the show yourself to make up your mind

why are you comparing it to OPM they have very little in common....so like.....why?

Cute and funny

wrong

>"I'm going to the abyss!"
>Proceeds to shit her guts out several times, most notably in a living toilet full of tentacles over the span of 2-3 chapters
It's some funny shit alright.

Not as good as normlfags build it up to be. It's still pretty good though.

Do you like CP?
If yes well I've got fantastic news for you

it's a fantastic anime but the elitist contrarians on this cancerous board will tell you otherwise.

It looks like cute SOL which then turns into over the top edge shit after a while to me

whats so edgy about it

youtube.com/watch?v=O3fsJ0bvenY

i dont mind edge but this kind of thing just puts me off in a series that spends so much time trying to be cute.

Wrong. What OP actually thought is that the entire show was shit except for the parts where the characters got hurt because he has a ryona and guro fetish.

>so much time trying to be cute.
the ED is the only thing cute

Don't watch it, instead, take my opinion as fact: It's fucking great.

it is dark not edgy everything in MiA is sincere in its delivery and has a reason.

just fucking watch it, it's worth a watch even if you don't end up loving it - at the very least you'll enjoy the audiovisuals
idk, it was definitely dark but I thought that fit the whole "whimsical yet deadly" contrast, sort of reminds me of old, cruel fairy tales

>the whole "whimsical yet deadly" contrast, sort of reminds me of old, cruel fairy tales

Thankyou user, I finally realized why there was this weird nostalgic vibe i got from it, especially with some of the backstory arcs.

Made in Abyss really has the same vibes as the old English fairy tales my Nana used to read me.

I thought it was good

You will be on a list if you watch this.

It's filled with silly fetishes.

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The manga is generally better, largely because the art conveys the tone better. Tsukushi's details are good but more importantly his shading makes it pretty clear that this isn't a nice happy story, the bright pastels of the anime make the Abyss look really alive but they kind of hide how dark and dangerous it is.
I knew from the first introduction of Ozen that this story was going to a dark place, but most anime-onlys had that shock later with Tama-chan.
The anime's soundtrack is kino though.

Also avoid threads on Yea Forums they're full of thirsty pedos who just want another topless Reg page for their collection.

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Pretty much an overhyped introducion.
It has potential to be something really great later but the season itself feels like a bunch of nothing.
Just when you feel the series starts the season ends.

>they're full of thirsty pedos who just want another topless Reg page for their collection
Hey come on now, I like the story well enough too.

What's happening in the bottom-right sketch?

>avoid threads on Yea Forums they're full of thirsty pedos who just want another topless Reg page for their collection
Not our fault he's an immodest slut

maybe you should watch the show, but I won't recommend it, it's mistery box bs, sprinkled with pedo stuff here and there and some edge, pretty trashy, only good aspect is the animation.

This is entirely untrue. I'm only here for shirtless veko pics

Why does this sound like contrarian word salad?

So it's good, got it

cos your mind is so fucked that you think I'm a contrarian, if OP has some standards and taste he'll notice how mediocre this show is right from the very first episode

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I really enjoyed it. It's pretty dark at some parts.

But user, the animation is shit. It literally becomes power point slides at some points.

this is what a contrarian lokks like

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I can't argue with satan

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it's a meme user
overrated shit anime for kids with a story like naruto

No, it's just pedophiles trying to force their perversions on everyone
same with footfags

Pretty sure the author is playing a game of "what can I get away with" and slowly pushes it further and further

At this point the manga will end with Guro rape at the bottom of the abyss with a giant gay blood orgy with Lyza while all the cast members are torn to shreds just because

Got very disappointed. Went in for a show that cares about explaining shit and giving focus to its worldbuilding like, a feeling like they are really exploring the damn thing and what I get is bait for gore and fetishfags.

It's quite fun and captivating but far from masterpiece level

I wanna start reading but when does this girl show up in the manga?

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in one of the first 20 chapters and fucks off forever a few chapters later

This has to be bait
(Though I

>Cute and funny
>Cu__ ___ __nny

No. The author is a pedo hack who prefers to play vr chat than make a new chapter. It’s been 140+ days

I love my wife Nanachi!

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She belongs to Belafu now

Manga is pretty much porn in disguise of a fantasy series

The manga is.

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Anime >>>>>> Manga, not least for omission of the village, but also a brighter, more consistent artstyle.

OP should listen to me, not yooooou.

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Cuss he baited you like a little bitch

Tsukushi is working on the new movie a lot because the animators have no idea how the base works and what the backgrounds are showing.

Absolute shit taste

>namefag
As if your idiocy wasn't obvious enough

I bet you were the one in school that the teacher put see-through papers on and showed to the whole class their contents

I'd carry the joke further but you're namefagging sickens me and I'd rather not continue this.

>excellent concept for a show
>writer inserts their fetish directly into it

every time

I want ozen to step on me

>you're

Yes

>watch
>not read

>lick my ba'lls

I wish they had spent more time exploring the early levels instead of the fucking snoozefest it is now. Narehate village was a fucking mistake. At least Vueko is cute.

>main girl nearly dies multiple times in the first five minutes
>whole first arc is about how going to the abyss is suicide but they're gonna do it anyways
I'm pretty sure it always communicated its tone. It just takes a while for something actually bad to happen to them.
the bondrewd movie is when things are gonna get actually edgy

new chapter when, pedoman?

seems I've been slacking...
Based.

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I love my wife Moogie

I want to stuff Nanachi full of my home cooking

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WHAT'S AT THE BOTTOM, Yea Forums?

I want to stuff Veko full of home cooking
and cock

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>The manga is generally better
Agree but the anime excelled at the worldbuilding in my opinion since they fleshed out Orth and the 3rd layer (which Riko and Reg breezed through in the manga). I agree that episodes 7 and 8 with Ozen weren't very well adapted but both the manga and the anime are excellent as stand-alone pieces of media.

Specifically my cock
for the most part

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It will never top the Anime of the Decade
Violet Evergarden
So it's shit by default.

My

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new chapter when

5 minutes.

Come on man don't be like that, MiA is pretty gud. Stop spending time shitposting with the Madoka crowd, they're being a bad influence on you people.

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>cuteposter has shit opinion
every time

No, but things that have children are popular now. See madoka.

Giorno Giovannaaaa

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The strong points of the show are its very unique, creative setting and excellent worldbuilding. No other show in recent years has managed to present such a well-crafted fantasy world. Slowly exploring that mysterious abyss through the eyes of the characters is a treat for anyone who is naturally curious and has an adventuring spirit.
What also makes it unique are the symbolic implications of ascend and descend. Descend should naturally be easier and ascending is now made even more difficult by the curse. Since you are shown how the characters struggle to even make it down, you can't help, but think going back is nearly impossible. It really helps in building that ominous atmosphere.
Of course, the animation, backgrounds and ost also deserve a lot of praise.

One of the downsides definitely is the insertion of author's fetishes, but one can simply ignore it and avoid the threads. Another thing is the manga isn't finished, so you can't expect a conclusive ending. Even then, I wonder why some people can't appreciate the show for what it is, even call it bad without any further explanation. Perhaps they need more explosions, flashing colors or love triangles to be entertained, but then they'd do well to choose a different genre.

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no wonder if you eat all this abyss shit
it's bad for your digestion

It's a show about little kids diving into a murderhole and it lets you know very early on that the abyss is a death pit.
What's edgy about kids facing the consequences of rushing to the bottom of the death pit, when it's been clearly established what the abyss is and how dangerous it is?

Also Bondrewd did literally and unironically nothing wrong.

this, people are mistaking dark / uncomfortable with edgy

edgy is dark and tragic executed badly, especially when it's meant to be cool or morally ambiguous - a supposedly sympathetic antihero torturing people because it's ReVeNgE aGaInSt SoCiEtY is edgy, a dangerous, scary place containing dangerous, scary shit is not

It stays true to its idea and doesn't have shitty plot armor.
No one is safe in the abyss, and it will fuck you up.
People are too conditioned to just assume certain characters are safe from all danger, so it's pretty shocking to some.

What did he mean by this?

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>anime
>more consistent artstyle
Someone pull the image comparing episode 10 and 11 up.

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Made in Abyss is scifi though.
Did you just rip off that one ecelb's script and add the bit at the end?

Anyone who uses edgy as a criticism without further deliberation has lower IQ than BMI

season 2 WHEN

Never

Hey, someone said in the last thread the chapter was today?

It's like a high 8/10 show but the standard for the year it came out were massively low, this year it would be aoty easily too

Yes.
Community is a complete and total piece of garbage though. I miss the comfy manga translation threads.

Just post the god damn pages / scene you know the one. Therea no point in this threas without it.

No, I don't know "the one".

this guy knows his shit

i watched based off of just that pic, was happy i did

I feel like I was watching and later reading the least interesting story possible in this world. Setting is great, but story is basically bunch of flashbacks connected by presence of boring as fuck main characters. But even flashbacks after some point become very predictable and formularic since all drama is manga is equivalent of throwing cute kittens in a shredder.

Yes but dont read the manga if you dont consider yourself a cunnyseur

>Just when you feel the series starts the season ends.
Try reading the manga and you won't want s2 anymore. I don't know how they put together a half decent 12ep season out of that shit to begin with.

This, but I somehow still unironically enjoy reading it.

>Made in Abyss is scifi though.
It has both fantasy and sci-fi elements, but fantasy is the dominant one and the sci-fi aspect isn't as impressive.
>Did you just rip off that one ecelb's script and add the bit at the end?
No? The only social platform I use to discuss anime is Yea Forums, couldn't care less about "that one ecelb". I don't even visit MiA threads all that often, because they are full of waifufags and pedos. It's just what I think about the show and every word came from my own mind.

I agree. There is massive potential in the setting but Rico and co are possibly the worst vehicle for showing it. They speed through the early layers where most people spend their whole lives, only encountering a few dangers and never really showing how normal delvers work. Then they have a really good arc in Idofront and now have come to a screeching hault in ancapistan.

I'd love some side stories about a more typical delving life. Like I want to know how normal delvers deal with the curse? Do they just ascend a tiny bit at a time? Do they become more resistant to it, or learn to navigate it better as they gain experience? Do most delvers keep crazy artifacts to gain power like the White Whistles apparently do? How are the artifacts normally found? Randomly or in caches? Just under rocks or more like little dungeons?

There are a million questions about the setting and none of them are being answered by flashbacks in the Narehate village

Well then I would implore you to sue because some faggot is plagiarising you word for word and getting money out of it.

Using a whole pack of band-aids on veko

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Well, when trying to look at a show objectively, it's bound to happen that multiple people come to the same conclusions. The setting and worldbuilding is an objective quality. So is the themes of ascend/descend, you see it very rarely in this genre, so it really stands out and people who notice it are bound to mention it. I noticed it, because I play Dark Souls and it is handled similarly there, it's even possible some of the inspiration came from that game (I've seen it mentioned multiple times already, so it's not really an original idea). It doesn't take a genius to see how the author likes to insert his fetishes into his work either. All in all, I don't think I've said anything groundbreaking.
But just out of curiosity, who are you talking about? I was being honest with you that I don't know any anime ecelebs and it would be interesting to take a look.

>objectively
you're retarded and should never talk about media

Fuck off back to whatever hellhole you crawled out of.

there is no objectivity in art there is only the sensations you experience

No really, please fuck off

read the manga so you can speed read the boring first third after the descend

I want to feel Her

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The show as a whole is excellent. There's a few 10/10 episodes and a few that are merely good. The OST is honestly my favorite of all time, and I'm normally very reluctant to make such a strong declaration. I have never encountered a full soundtrack with such a high ratio of great songs instead of just a few standout ones.
The manga isn't long and I'd encourage you to pick it up after you're done with the show if you watch it.
From episode 1 it was clear the series was not trying to be cute.

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Wrong. Art isn't completely objective, you can't build a mathematical model of a perfect show. But it isn't completely subjective either, I'd even say the subjectivity plays a minor role compared to the vast amount of objective qualities you can analyze.
Since you mentioned art in general, a simple counterexample is music. You can analyze a song and find the key, tempo, timbre, chord progression, composition and many more. All of those are objective qualities you can find and analyze.

user, you don't understand
Your assessment is not objective.
You experience the worldbuilding and setting as "objectively good", because they allow you to imagine being part of the world and because they make it FEEL alive.
A theme can never be good or bad, it can only be present. How you interpret it is entirely subjective.

Your critique is also low effort dogshit, because you basically stated that Made in Abyss is the "Dark Souls of anime". Your expression of the idea of objectivity is also rather lacking, you use it as "I very strongly believe this thing", which is fine, it's good to have convictions.
But do not confuse them for unshakeable truths.

Of course, as critique is never objective, this is just my reading of your criticism.

meant for

i objectively love Her

I want Ozen's superhuman vagina to crush and rip off my penis as she cums so I can bleed out in bliss knowing that I have done my duty.

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>I don't know any anime ecelebs and it would be interesting to take a look
I envy you, unfortunately they were spammed a fuckton in these threads after Yea Forums decided to set up shop permenantly in 2018
I was thinking of nearly on red, but that's wrong, he wasn't the one who said it. He's actually okay as far as I'm concerned.
his name escapes me, I'll be looking for the faggot for you.

How far in is the anime, or more precisely has the fight with best scientist happened yet because I found the suitcase thing to be far worse but people like
are making it seem as if this is the worst the anime gets

Why do they hang them up naked as punishment what the actual fuck

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If people thought the encounter with the Orb Piercer and Nanachi's backstory were edgy, I can't wait to see the reactions to Bondrewd and the cartridges and later the village's backstory when it eventually gets adapted. Author really likes his suffering little girls.

There is massive potential in Riko and Reg as main characters too, but mangaka had to stuck with shounen tier "younglings are good, adults are corrapted and bad" mindset. Everytime they come into hopeless, morally complicated situation author introduces one asspull or another to help them and keep them naive and innocent.

Works great as a deterrent

Pleb filter.

They killed a man, multiple times
What are you on about?
Also, Bondrewd unironically did nothing wrong.

>youtube.com/watch?v=eEc22Rr9ADE
I found him, at least I think I did.
I am truely sorry for what you might be about to go through.

>a simple counterexample is music
No, it actually isn't. Because music theory is phenomenology. You look at sensations people experience and try to put some sort of quality to them. You try to formulate a way to replicate these sensations, by instituting formal rules. But there are many ways of creating music that do not care or need to care for the ways traditional music theory allows you to evoke sensations.

Music theory is a simplification of very complex interactions between sound waves. It's a formalized way to say "well, I feel that this thing sounds kinda cool".

Most of the objective qualities you listed are just things that are there.
It's like saying "this anime has a protagonist". It is objective, yes. There is a protagonist, there are chords, there are keys used, there is a tempo, the instruments have timbres and there are chord used in succession.
And that's nice, but it's not critique and it does not offer anything to the listener.

Composition is already a subjective metric, what makes a good composition? How does a good composition differ from a bad one? Can you formalize a system in which a "good" composition is ALWAYS experienced as better than a "bad" one?

This notion of "objective criticism" is stupid, because objectivity is triviality.
Here, let me objectively critique this Rothko:
>The painting has different colors. It's big. It's was created by applying paint to a canvas. The strokes of the artist's brush are visible. Mark Rothko painted it. It was painted in 1960. It's titled No. 14.

This is about all you can OBJECTIVELY say about the painting, but what worth do any of these statements have? This is garbage criticism, objectively so, because it doesn't give any perspective on the piece, it doesn't convey meaning.

You cannot objectively speak about art in a productive way, no matter what form.

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You are replying to a different user. I never said my assesment is objective, I only said I noticed some objective qualities about the show. Worldbuilding, animation, background, symbolism, ost, ... all of those are objective qualities you can analyze. Different people can come to different conclusions about how good or bad these qualities are, but it's very likely you'll see a lot of similar opinions. My opinion on these qualities is, of course, subjective.

Also, you are misinterpreting a lot of things I said, it would be much more appreciated if you came up with some criticism of your own and tell me where you disagree with me. As an example:
>you basically stated that Made in Abyss is the "Dark Souls of anime"
I never said this. I only said I play Dark Souls and it handles the themes of ascend/descend similarly. I only mentioned it so that the other user knows where I learned about this concept and didn't just copy it from some eceleb.

because naked helpless children are sexy

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kys pedo

Refer to >I never said this.
I know, I just thought it would be good to point out that you used a very poor example.
But would you agree that Dark Souls is the Dark Souls of the Dark Souls genre?

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Are people itt really so braindead they don't think you can objectively analyse a piece of media? I guess it would explain why they like the series so much.

You can, but objectivity stops pretty early in any piece of art critique, no matter how rational you think you're being.

I am not saying that you can't, I'm just saying that it's trivial and pointless.

The adventure and mystery of diving in a bottomless cave intrigues me, as well as dark themes, but it looks like such pedoshit

>but it looks like such pedoshit
It's really good, you should try it and just control your autism through the few scenes that fluster you.

It's closest thing to a roguelike anime. DanMachi dropped the ball in that aspect.

It's also really well designed, nice backgrounds and good OST.

It just works.

It's if it were two disparate elements, it'd fall apart; but it's two tastes that DO go together as written.

However I try to read this, I can't help but think you are arguing the obvious. Your example with the painting actually is pointing out the objective qualities. Now add your own opinions one these qualities, and you have a complete critique. Nobody is arguing that this critique in itself is completely objective. But does it make it pointless? Hardly.

>"muh pedoshit"
Americans were a mistake

>I'm going to the bottom of the hell pit!
>You'll die stupid, it sucks down there.
>Nah it'll be fine-

It's pretty good.

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abyss is a great expectations vs reality hyperbole.

>I can't help but think you are arguing the obvious
Because I am.
The idea of objectivity in art is complete garbage and it's blatantly obvious for everyone except people who "objectively" criticize things.

>Your example with the painting actually is pointing out the objective qualities.
Yes, that is more or less the level of OBJECTIVE insight you can offer when discussing the painting.

>Now add your own opinions one these qualities, and you have a complete critique.
Yes, but when I say "I think the painting is orange, brown and blue" I am already no longer objectively speaking about the painting, because I am expressing my sensations upon viewing the painting.
It is no longer an objective statement, but at the same time it conveys more meaning than "the painting has colors" and it's more useful to the reader.

Saying that a show has "objectively good worldbuilding" is retarded, because "good worldbuilding" a report of your feelings about the show. There is nothing objective about this. The corresponding objective statement would be something like "this show takes place in a world". Which again is trivial and utterly useless to the reader.

There is critique, there is objectivity. But the former is not objective and the latter is useless.

An(nu)al butt inspection.

It's fine, I asked for it, after all. At least I know I'm not missing anything. He actually makes some interesting points, but I just don't like the way he presents it. I guess the target audience can't hold their attention unless they are constantly showered with memes and unfunny jokes.
Honestly, we both noticed certain things about the show, but I don't see as much similarities as I'd expect. I believe the verticality is the most prominent one, but I got it from somewhere else.
youtube.com/watch?v=bPGNmIJ30zY
This video, I believe. From 2:20 onwards.

Does Tsukushi really like little boys?

You strike me as the type of person who would unironically say that science is bullshit because it assumes that it can study things objectively while coming from being who perceive the world subjectively.
In which case, please go and subjectively try out gravity, preferably from a tall building.

Which point? It all sounds like the most milktoast obersations presented to a class of ADHD students to me.

I just think that sometimes you have to disregard these nuances of objectivity. You can't even be sure what you experience is real and objective. Thinking this way is called being so open minded your brain falls out. Everything you know, every scientific field, every technological advancement is based on some kind of a fundamental dogma you can't prove.
Art is similar in this regard, you are right when you say this picture isn't objectively better than a child's doodle, but nobody gains anything when you point it out. It's much better to assume it is "objectively" better, because it pushes the evolution of art in the right direction. At least this is my subjective opinion on this.

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Science does not have the arrogance of making objective statements about things. Science offers a predictive model that functions (unless you get into really complicated and fundamental science which I myself am not well-versed in).
I am only trying to convey some understanding of the philosophical discourse of criticism. And not once have I said that subjectivity is bad. Only that thing are not-objective when they are not.

>science is bullshit because it assumes that it can study things objectively while coming from being who perceive the world subjectively
Science assumes observations to be reliable, it has to because otherwise it doesn't function at all. If I wanted to be that person I'd say that science is useless garbage and that you should worry about doing mathematics instead, because mathematics is objective. Of course there's some spooky philosophy to a similar effect going on in mathematics (Gödel) as well.

Basically philosophy was a mistake.

The little boy inside Tsukushi does

I kind of agree, but hey, I just don't want to completely shit on someone based on a single stupid video. Out of the 1000 observations he has thrown at me during 10 minutes, there were a few I didn't notice before and made sense. But to point out the concrete ones, I'd have to watch it again, and I don't believe you truly want to put me through that hellish torture again.

Holy fucking shit, it's even better than I thought

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You're right, I don't.
But even if you did subject yourself to it again, I believe you would find that nothing new was obtained. It is just so forgetable you think you might have missed something when you get out on the other end of it.

>I just think that sometimes you have to disregard these nuances of objectivity. You can't even be sure what you experience is real and objective. Thinking this way is called being so open minded your brain falls out.
Of course, it's useless drivel, all of it.
Everyone who knows about these things knows, but they don't really care because it's not really a useful thing to worry about overmuch. For comparison look at solipsism. Yeah, so you're the only thing that exists. Fantastic. How is that a meaningful and useful insight? It isn't, it doesn't mean anything. How does this understanding change your life or the way you interact with the world? It doesn't.
It's philosophical garbage.

The only time you pull trash like that out is in contexts like this.

>Everything you know, every scientific field, every technological advancement is based on some kind of a fundamental dogma you can't prove.
Axioms are far better than dogma already.

>At least this is my subjective opinion on this.
Well, my opinion on this is that it's luminist drivel and that Ivan here should've spent his time drawing pretty anime girls instead.

>Ivan here should've spent his time drawing pretty anime girls instead.
It pains me to know some people unironically think this.

I was making a joke, you know?
Still, I never quite understood the luminist stuff, but maybe it's just me having seen one too many art school exhibitions.

I know. But some people unironically do think that and it pains me.

I aim to please.
Still, if you think I'm wrong show me where I am wrong.

This is pretty much spot on. Right after he made any kind of point, I was immediately showered with so much unnecessary noise I had no time to process it and think it over, so I admit it's possible I was tricked into thinking there was more to it. In the end, I find out I can't remember almost anything he said.
I wonder what's the target audience of such videos.

>twitter.com/tukushimasu

fake you retard

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I don't know. I personally can't stand it.
Watching two different ecelb's videos is like spotting differences in isekai.

Sorry that civilized countries are making child lust uncool, Muhammed

I'm the user to whom you originally replied. It's alright, I get it's a joke. I'm STEMfag myself and I don't have a deep understanding of art or philosophy (that's also why I made a couple of mistakes in terminology during our discussion).
I really like Aivazovsky though. I like when paintings look close to reality, but if we go too far, we get a photograph and that would be a bit bland and with little artistic merit. That's why I appreciate when the reality is amplified, or changed in some way that can't be achieved during normal circumstances. Of course, for luminists, this aspect is the effect of the light.

Wait
The bunnygirl in this isn't a girl? The fuck?
And is that the author's side account? Even if it's a fake tweet, are creepy sounding tweets like that normal for him?

It's fake you retard

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Same guy.

/c/ was a mistake

I want to see this

>literally child molestation

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Seeing as no one wants to, I guess I'll do it myself

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Toasters can't be molested user.

Are you telling me you wouldn't check to see if the robot boy was 100% accurate?

Comments like that are wonderfully meta because the story is fundamentally about human curiosity, this longing to know more and other primal instincts. Reader become like characters in the story, but can't be actual part of the world. It's like the story laughs at you, but at the same time respects you.

The society, fauna, scenery and relics are the tools to draw you in make you aware of these feelings but they're not the core focus here. There would be an ideal way though to attend to this more basic, instinctive mindset and that would be via a video game. Just imagine the huge and intricate map, an encyclopedic bestiary and an extensive catalog of relics.

I'm actually working on a TTRPG game where the players would be delvers. I'm stalled right now because a 5 layer hexcrawl, each with a massive area to explore is a fuckload of work

Color me jealous. I'd love to try that. Seems like it'd be a natural fit for Call of Cthulhu or something where the monsters and magic are scary lethal.

Not enough dude. I need a AAA video game with godlike production values. Tsukushi is currently helping with it that's why he's taking so long with the chapter (I wish).

If I ever finish the map I'll probably share it on /tg/. I'll post a link in whatever MiA thread happens to be up at the time too. It might be quite a while. I have no idea how to handle the first layer and fifth layers and most of what I have done is the inverted forest and cup of giants so far. I have ideas on how to deal with the great fault (basically a sideways map, instead of a normal flat one) but haven't put any work into it yet. So it's a long way from being playable considering I still have to build a bestiary and artifact list too.

So... Nanachi... is a girl...

Thank god. The show is perverted enough already.

The boring jew pedo village is enough to ensure they won't continue an adaptation of this pile of shit at least. Did they even know that was going to happen when they made s1?

I think so Tsukushi shared his general plot outline with the director and some of the staff.

When there's enough material for an ending, they might rewrite that bit or cut it short. Hopefully what comes after (Srajo et al) is more engaging.

No

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed with the direction he went with the manga. It completely destroys the atmosphere of abyss - the closer the characters are to their final destination, the more dangerous, desolate and unwelcoming the abyss seems to be, populated almost exclusively with mindless, yet deadly beasts. But wait, actually there is a village full of monster jews living just below the point of no return. They are doing just fine and the characters will spend a fuckton of time there, because everybody is clearly very interested in this subplot. Also the whole thing starts right at the point where I expected things to get more interesting.

Whatever happened to that one fan game that was being made for this? I remember seeing them walk through the area with giant leaves.

That would be great. The best way to go about it is to make you play as a regular delver. A game about delving into the abyss to gather resources and relics (some of which would also serve as equipment) with survival elements. You'd have to prepare yourself both for the journey down and for even more arduous journey back up. You'd really have to consider what to take down with you and even how many things it is worth to take back up.
Every layer would present completely different environment with different dangers, each being much more difficult, but also more rewarding than the previous one. Sounds a bit too entertaining to be true. The only scenario I can imagine AAA studios pick up is some generic shooter with lootboxes.

I don't like the plot of this arc either.
- conflict involving Mitty 2.0 is dumbest ever
- Riko got her White Whistle carved for free in the Village of greedy value obsessed jews
- Abyss was discovered by the group of hobos who made it to 6th fucking layer in their first try
- let me tell you a fresh new story about 2 cute girls who were abused by some dude and one them was mutated into weird shit
- Reg's plotline is stupid af and left in impression that Tsukushi just wanted him to fuck off to make Riko focused chapters. He spent plenty of time with Goon, but didn't ask anything important and escaped from person who knows his past without any proper reason
- actually, no one of characters asking anything important because it wouldn't allow to drag this arc for another millenium. Riko descended into the Abyss to find her mom, found pages of her diary in Village's market, but forgot about them 5 minutes later. Bun jumped for Mitty without any questions why her disintegrated friend is here. Reg went into the Abyss because he wanted to learn about his origin, but read above.
- jellyfish battle was fun, but feels like a filler
- imo the art went downhill despite enormous amount of time Tsukushi is (not)spending on each chapter

>Tutorial section: Red whistle basic looting, exploration and combat (childhood)
>Act 1:
Blue whistle 1/4 of game Doing quests and finding relics
>Act 2:
Moon whistle 1/4 of game You pick your crew, dig site, and direct operations. Resource management as you pay wages and funerals.
>Act 3:
Black whistle 1/4 of game Black ops in the abyss. Not only does the danger ramp up, you start having to silence/avoid witnesses and rivals.

Final Delve is unlocked with White whistle, you can keep playing the game for middling rewards, or head down ISO endgame content. Permadeath from levels 6+.

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Oh, and it randomly generates delvers on each run. So any NPC that survives Act 1 will be available later with better stats.
But they won't use relics like you do.

its pretty a cute SOL show without any suffering and despair

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I wish I was Jiruo so I could take care of Riko and make sure she was tucked into bed every night, well until she went on her adventure.

youtu.be/mNWvIr8YIcM

>I am always beside you, in the past, present, and also the future
Feels like a spoiler, great lyrics tho.
"slipper slope" pronounced "sluperu suloopu" is funny

>roguelike anime
>tfw am just now noticing the connection
Pretty cool, although generally you don't come back up because you'll die at the bottom.

The set up I have for
is that players are "sanctioned foreign delvers" a bit of a stretch based on what we know, but I'm using it so that my players can have zero knowledge about the Abyss before going on. Orth will get first crack at any artifacts they find, followed by them having a quota they have to send home or their backing and status could be removed. They'll have to balance both of those demands with equipping themselves for the more lucrative deeper layers. So they'll have to consider whether something is worth smuggling past Orth officials and whether to use it themselves or turn it into their own country, or even selling it on the black market to buy their own equipment or lesser but specific artifacts at auction.

How do White Whistles even come back up?

Sounds really good, keep us posted.

They don't. If they go below Idofront they're never seen again. Sometimes they send info back but usually they just disappear.
Which is why the current era is so fucked. Basically every WW went on their final delve recently.

Bondrewd wants a word with you

Yep. Within the context of the (very fictional) game:
While you can do lower content as a white whistle (as Lyza and Ozen did repeatedly), you won't get the best loot or the highest levels that way.

Once you Final Delve, you're saying goodbye to that character soon, and knocking on the threshold of a new career (+)

Bonerdude used the sacrifice jugs as a loophole and still ended up fluffy. Technically Nanachi came back from the 6th as well by that logic.

With a full orphanage of suitcased children Bonezone can explore the 6th and come back, but without being a child sacrificing man of science it doesn't seem to be possible to go back.

Regardless, as far as we know the only one to do it is BestDad. The others are assumed to be gone forever.

High quality but a little overhyped by fans

I remember how pretty much nobody knew about it when it was first airing. People were even calling it a hidden gem, well, so much for that. It exploded really fast.

The problem with going to the 6th is that you need a white whistle to turn on the elevator.
And it's still pretty hard to get your hands on one of those even for Bonerman.

Nigger he already has one

The anime is definetely overhyped as fuck. I wouldn't necessarily say the manga is.
Although that might be because most faggots who would overhype it are only tangentially aware of its existance because they insit on being animeonlies for some strange reason.

Yes.
He has ONE.
And he's not gonna give it up.
He can't hand it to one of his Praying Hands and send it down the 6th, because he can't get it back.

Yes he can you mouth breathing faggot. The elevator works both ways believe it or not

bondrewd has been on l6 before... he even visited the village.

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Soudesu, watashi wa Fluffzen.

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>not doing both

Sure you are

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>Of course, it's useless drivel, all of it.
Then why did you spend so much time arguing about the irrelevant difference between objectivity and subjectivity?

When I read , it looks to me like he's simply arguing that you can justify opinions on art based on constituent elements. That's all.
Who cares about rigidly defining "objective criticism?" I think it's clear what he was trying to say.

To me hashing out the difference between objectivity and subjectivity in his post is pedantry.
It 's not relevant to the point he was making at all, but maybe you thought he was saying something else.

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>Then why did you spend so much time arguing about the irrelevant difference between objectivity and subjectivity?
because I was bored and arguing is fun

>it looks to me like he's simply arguing that you can justify opinions on art based on constituent elements.
I was mostly focused on the whole "music theory means music is objective" point. Which is blatantly non-true.
I also shortly pointed towards some "objective constituents" and why they're not meaningful or useful in critique.

>Who cares about rigidly defining "objective criticism"?
The people who claim their critique is objective. Or at least they should.

In he claims that objective qualities are more important than subjective qualities, I am pointing out that essentially everything he calls "objective qualities" is just like how you feel about it, duuude.
Rigidly differentiating between objectivity and subjectivity is not pedantic at all, it's the whole point.

But yes, you can have an opinion on a thing based on the thing, that what critique is.

>this whole manga is predictable as fuck

Are people making shit up about how IQ they are? Nobody knew where the story was going. We've had months of theorizing since "no chapters" and nobody knew what exactly was going to happen. Now everybody is going full "yeah I 100% knew what's going to happen"

Not that user, but I think objective doesn't mean the same thing you talk about when used in a casual conversation. If it indeed carried the same kind of meaning, then it would be the least used word in the entire English dictionary, because as far as we know, almost nothing is truly objective. When you hear art is objectively good. it evokes a feeling that most people and especially critics will unanimously agree it's good. It doesn't mean it's actually objective by definition.

>music theory means music is objective
This is actually true. It doesn't mean music is objectively good or bad. It's objective in a sense that it can be analyzed. Two people familiar with the music theory will not call an exact tone different names. Music is just a change of frequency in time. It can even be represented as a mathematical graph. Music theory is just a set of naming conventions and rules for composing music pleasant to human ear.
Examples of objective qualities:
>tempo is 120 BPM
>the key is A minor
>this is a solo piano piece
Examples of subjective qualities:
>this piece sounds sad
>this piece sounds good

I don't think you are saying anything wrong, but it seems like you are trying to argue very hard about some kind of philosophy when nobody in this thread is on the same wavelengths as you and they talk about different things instead.

I forgot to mention the whole purpose of this site seems to be arguing about stupid shit, so I can't really blame you for what you do.

It's above average at best.

You new or something? That's his alt account he uses to blogpost along with share his Moruki's and other side projects. The other one is for mainly Made in Abyss and other professional projects.

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Holy fucking reading comprehension.

You could have just said "yes"
Welcome to the threads user

No, you dumb shit. You replied to a post nearly 10 hours old and you couldn't understand the post. Why are Nanachi posters so fucking retarded? Now you're going to squirm around trying to type your way out of not being able to read.

Well go ahead and tell me what's fake
twitter.com/tukushimasu/status/1138856680614088705

It's a good first half of a story. Whether it's going to be great or garbage depends in how it finishes.

Got called out for being a newfag then exploded into an autistic fit. That's kind of embarrassing, how do you act in person?

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yes. it's a modern classic.
it has amazing writing and world building, the characters are also well design unique and very likeable.

the ost is very atmospheric and awesome.

they literally hired a studio ghibli artist to help them do the backgrounds that is what they are so full of detail and all feel like real places in nature.

it is already considered an anime classic and is going to age well and will still be enjoyable on rewatches in the future. so the answer in simple is yes it is good.

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Hm, he stopped replying... Weird!

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he got so mad he reported my posts

I was going to say I don't mind new posters since it invigorates the threads, but we don't need people like that.

I'm sure the bondold movie will bring in some quality posters.

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Feels like I'm playing one of those spot the difference magazines. Every time I look I notice another completely different detail.

If it's uncensored, it'll bring more people posting the p word. Especially with the chair scene and Papa's rod. I refuse to call it a pole.
Wash your penis

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The left is more anime style and the right is more manga style.

>The left is more anime style
user...

Yes, Nanachi has shit for fingers.

>having to rely on shitty Google translate to tell you the gender of a character

What's so bad about an agendered character? Why does everything need to be gendered?

You weren't here for the gender shitstorms I take it.

Haven't seen it but the soundtrack is ridiculously good.

Those things shot threads to the bun limit so fucking fast.

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I made a huge steak and I couldn't finish it. Wish Ozen was here so I could share it with her.

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Be a man and eat the whole fucking thing

or be a faggot
ozen likes those

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If the chapter doesn't come out in August, it probably won't come out in September. It 2 is coming out And then of course you have Ni No Kuni remastered.

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You got me there

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I'm not a man, I'm a boy. I eat as much as a hamster does. Leftover steak tastes fine too.

The other user replies literally stop dead after this lmao.

Other than that, any ideas if the next chapter comes out this month? Hopefully we'll see a release on the 20th or 30th.

We've been saying "hopefully" for months. I haven't kept up with his streaming, so I'm just going to let it be a pleasant surprise.

One of the reasons is that they are delvers. People get caught in ropes by accident while climbing. The other is that it's embrassing and the author is a pervert.

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it makes me uncomfortable. I feel the author is a pedophile who loves to torture children.

It's a good idea. It has interesting characters and setting.
It could have been a true adventure "to the abyss" though. Aside from the last ep, it was pretty tame.

I didn't find it mindblowing, but it's definitely one of the better shows/mangas of the last few years. I was keen for every episode, put it that way.

Too soon.

Or Boku No Pico.

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It's a great metaphor for a lot of things user.

the soundtrack art and animation are great you faggot.

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Fuck yes.

... I can't make up my mind about this comment...

Good question... there IS nudity, of char's who are minors... is the author a loli-otaku? Its disturbing at times.

More bottom!

No-no, it's the butt inspections.

Tsukushi go work on the damn chapter

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Cyborg child molestation

Human children/toaster hybrids can.

OR... ep's were given to different teams to speed up delivery...

Nezuko Nanachi is next.

Goddamn how do Moogies legs work wish Tsukushi would stream already so i can wask

Just think user, in about 6 years we will get to see Moogie animated!

I want to stuff this bun in a box

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Try sending him a message through Twitter if you have one. He's one of those popular mangakas that don't disable it. I think he reads and responds to it too. Show him a picture of your work so he knows you're not fucking around.

His official twitter has messages disabled, but his alt has them enabled.

Oh shit, must have been pretty recent then. I've seen him with the button enabled not too long ago. Then again, he got 10k new followers in the last week or so.

I know he's responded to characters' official colours before so artists can draw and colour them properly. Probably better for you to just Tweet at him (official Twitter, not the alt) and hope he responds or something.

I want Tsukushi to notice me and my work, but I feel it would be annoying to tweet at him in hopes he does.
I'm not the original poster by the way

I don't think tweeting at his official handle is a bad thing. A lot of people do tweet at him and he retweets their artwork, even if they're not so great. It's just that some people tweets crazy shit at him sometimes (like that guy with his blood and the guy calling him a pedo) that's bad. Though his personal handle probably should be off limits. As long as you don't tweet dumb shit to his official handle like "when's the next chapter" or "stop playing Splattoon" I think it's okay.

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>you will never go on a 4 person raft ride with nanachi, regu and riko
why even live?

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>ctrl+f etriam
>no results
bad thread

Rather not die to be honest.

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that's fake news!!! the ride wasn't even a slide ride but more like a rollercoaster with water in it that shouldn't have been approved in the first place. It's an act of god that it even malfunctioned in the first place and only a gay couple, their sister and their dyke enabler died anyway so who cares
please come to the gold coast in australia it's beautiful!!!

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The sex hadn't been had yet, i presume ?

The only good thing from the land down under.

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maybe if you sneak another shrimp onto the barbie for me

you colossal faggot

wait maruruk is male? what the fuck

Well, yeah.

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What is this about everyone arguing about Nanachi's gender? I just assumed it was a girl considering the va and how she looked in the flashback.

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why do you say that like it's the most natural thing in the world?

Nanachi is in fact a girl in the canon as well, it's just that the mentally ill 'people' from reddit are trying to force their propaganda into the series.

Nanachi of MiA = Pitou of HxH

I thought the whole point of Nanachi was that that the curse fucked her up so much that it doesn't really matter whether he was male or female before.

it's got cuties

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Narehates don't have genders. Like Moogie, it's genderless.

>philosophy was a mistake.
You are mistaking philosophy as a whole for nihilism and relativism.

Relativism?
In what context? There are many times where a relativistic view is favored over an absolutist one.
Nihilism is not philosophy it is a condition. It's something you believe in, but something you are entrapped by, you can think of it as the philosophical version of a mental illness.

I think you are using terms you don't understand the definition or the historic context of. Please actually a philosophy text book instead of listening to lobster enthusiasts.

Moogie is made by the village
Prushka and Mitty still have genders
Narehate is an uncountable noun

>Moogie is made by the village
im pretty sure she was human
like most of them

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Jesus, Ozen is a bitch. Why do people like her?

No shit sherlock, I meant that Moogie was turned into a narehate by the village which seems to be an entirely different process.

Femdom and milkers

It's pretty heavily implied in the anime, and eventually explicit in the manga.

It's a surprise, but not for very long.

what would you call "mindblowing" anyways?

>she

She's strong, acts cool, and looks cool. Bondrewd is even more of an asshole and he has more fans than Ozen. How nice a character is is not the only metric that determines how much people will like them, it's not even close to the top. Otherwise no one would like villains.

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The setting is way too good for its own show/manga

It was obvious form the first time we see him, even more so with a VA.

No

>Bondrewd is even more of an asshole
But that's wrong

>Bondrewd is an asshole
A very little price to pay for progress

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Never said it was a bad thing.

robopeepee

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One last bump for my cute wife before we get archived together.

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No, it's pretty mediocre. The only reason it's became popular is the same as Madoka - there are kids suffering.

Veko is a literal thot

she is so much more

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I wonder if OP figured it out yet?

You can't make me work!!!

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I'm still on the fence about it

how the fuck did i never notice this

Because you're new and most likely either an animeonly or secondary. Truly I cannot tell you which is worse anymore.

looks like tv vs bd, weird.

overhyped shit

I'm glad the mangaka finally settled on nanachi being male.

its funny how a random mook in hxh has a higher iq than all the "geniuses" in mia

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You mean to tell me I've been gotted by some faggot for well over 2 years now?

Is this fucking B^U?

Is this manga or a very poorly structured LN?

HxHfags are the vegans of Yea Forums

How so?

They can't shit the fuck up

I just checked, and while I'm unsure how the fuck user got the image in the first place, it's real enough. The difference is there.

was it the bd version? because I have the tv version and it's the same for both episodes maybe they forgot to change the first one

I only have the bd downloaded.
I can try and check some streaming side and see if the tv version might have the same differnece.

You know, jokes stop being funny the moment you explain them, right?

Screencap 21:40 of the 10th episode and 5:09 of 11th. It's there, it's pretty blatant, even in the tv version.
If in doubt you can check whether a site hosts the bd or tv version by checking the 12th episode at 21:30 and seeing if there us blood in Nanachi's fur or not.

You're right but they use both versions in episode 11 both at 3:25 and 5:09.

They do that both in the bd and tv versions

>shit the fuck up

>"Huehue you missed a letter I'm so smart xddd"

>t. refuses to let this poor thread rest in piece and thus keep bumping without reason

I don't want it to end...

Everything good has to end user.
This threads was the most pleassant MiA thread I have seen in nearly a year.
It's time to let it rest.