Why Isekai's setting is always Medieval? Why not something like futuristic cyberpunk...

Why Isekai's setting is always Medieval? Why not something like futuristic cyberpunk, roaring twenties/jazz age aesthetic or classical antiquity?

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Mangakas who make isekai are all creatively bankrupt so making an entirely new setting even with the groundwork laid out for them is an impossible feat

What manga has good fantasy setting that isn't medieval or cyberpunk?

because that would require them to actually think and go out of their DQ generic medieval world comfort zone

We are already living in a cyberpunk world and it sucks.

Kumo is a post-apocalyptic isekai.

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The idea of the wish fulfillment isekai stories is often to allow the stranger to prevail due to his modern knowledge, so he needs to be sent to a more primitive world.

Classical antiquity just isn't a popular setting with the Japanese.

MC has to have something which gives him some "unique" advantage in the new world in most of these stories. Sometimes that can just be modern knowledge which makes MC better at using whatever special abilities he has. It's much more difficult to make MC useful if he is dropped in a futuristic or near-present setting, so those options are inherently less fitting for typical isekai plotlines. You could of course dump a character into any type of world, but in a more advanced society he'd either have to occupy and inferior role (which might better lend itself to some deconstruction, perhaps; it has kind of been done) or MC would have to be given a powerup directly - which is still quite common, but in this case it would lack the element of him succeeding due to his old life which I think is part of the appeal of isekai stories.

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But thinking hurts!

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Because read more fagot.

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When will you sci-fi brainlets finally go extinct? Your decade has passed. Move on with your life.

I think it's funny that you think that

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>Why Isekai's setting is always Medieval?
because they're based on fantasy rpg's.

read more isekai

Holy shit, why so butthurt?

The mc wouldn't be advantaged in a sci-fi setting.

I like fantasy settings though.

Medieval fantasy has superior aesthetics.
Just as fantasy RPGs are better than all other RPGs, fantasy stories are better than scifi and whatnot.

Video game stats, skills, and rankings are more familiar to nips in a medieval fantasy setting since they love Dragon Quest and similar video games. As long as authors rely on video game mechanics to develop their world, a medieval fantasy setting will continue to be mainly used.

The problem stems more from LN/WN authors that are picked up for anime and manga adaptions more than it is just mangaka themselves. Not to say that there aren't mangaka like Maybe who have stepped low into making manga original isekai.

Because nips are forever buttpained about medieval europe being superior to feudal japan so they love having random nips getting their dick wet everywhere and worshiped for their ORIGINAL JAPANESE CULTURE DO NOT STEAL FILTHY CHINKS

Is there an isekai with d&d setting, serious plot, no wish fulfillment, no harem and a normal MC?

Now and then, here and there is a dystopian future isekai. Zipang is a WW2 isekai.

I have all of those if you drop the requirements that it explicitly be based on D&D and also be an isekai

That would be just anime futurama

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Not all of them are.

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And you think that's a bad thing?

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You mean you don't like feudalistic societies?

Based gendo-fonsworth

What if you get Isekai'd to McDonald's.

The tech would be futuristic in comparison to the world before ... kinda scifi.

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That's all I would wish for

>futuristic cyberpunk
You almost have that with Cop Craft. Just set in a few years in the future instead of like 50 years in the future.
>roaring twenties/jazz age
Seeing as how that is an American time period, I doubt most of the world really cares about that short period of time. Even most Americans don't. I see a lot of dumb zoomers dislike The Great Gatsby these days.
>classical antiquity
While generally more broad appeal than that American 1920s, but it doesn't seem that nips care anything about it. Are there any examples of anime or manga even touching on any of Homer's works?

This, why would japan give a fuck about american cultural periods?
Wouldn't mind seeing an isekai set in the Meiji era though

>While generally more broad appeal than that American 1920s, but it doesn't seem that nips care anything about it. Are there any examples of anime or manga even touching on any of Homer's works?
There are anime that use greek gods and heroic figures as characters but none that I know of that attempt to adapt greek literature.

Steampunk.

Having "lost" knowledge/skill.

I think it's often them going to a medieval setting because it would be a harder setting to get back FROM.
After all, a more advanced reality would likely be able to bring you back to your world, or even have regular access to it and make it part of their society's setup.

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Except they having fucking magic and half the times are the ones summoning people to their world

There was some isekai WN about a D&D wizard isekai.
Looking back on it, it more or less fills all points except not being wish fulfillment.

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I don't think the average isekai protagonist is capable of seeming clever in a cyberpunk world (or any sort of futuristic world unless the world regressed in some way), and being sent to one with some sort of cheat power is weird as hell though there could be some novelty in that being done once or twice.

I want an Isekai where a guy from a brutal dog eat dog past world gets sent to a utopian future, where he proceeds to fuck over and conquer all of the unsuspecting utopians.

I think there was a live action movie with that kind of premise.

A World That I Rule is the porn version of that.
Retard loser from our world gets sent to magical elf island with no violence, hunger, greed or pain and proceeds to fuck everything up because his shitty ego won't allow him to just enjoy the fucking Garden of Eden.

Closest thing I can think of is the movie Demolition Man.

Also if not with a utopian future but definitely the fuck over and conquer part is pic related.

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Demolition Man

Fuck off with your non-Yea Forums shit

but in most isekai, MCs are only advantaged because:
- scenaristic asspulls
- god given cheat skills
- rest of the world being utterly braindead
all of those can easily be adapted to a sci-fi set-up

though, obviously, there would be some restraint on bringing shitty science like vibroswords, crop rotation or double entry accounting, but I guess, they could still bring miso

Also Demolition Man is hardly a utopia when people aren't even fucking anymore. It's just a mockery of the nanny state the country was becoming, and how they needed a real man to bring down a real villain. Kill yourselves

Sounds like an episode of outer limits where one of the last men on earth is wakes up in the future after a plague wipes out 99% of men. He wakes up in a world with only women and society collapses into a big catfight because they all want to fuck him.

There is always lost/forgotten knowledge.

>Why Isekai's setting is always Medieval?
Isekai settings are almost never medieval, they're Dragon Quest ripoffs which are different. They usually blend ancient, medieval, renaissance, early modern and even Victorian-era settings with a heavy veneer of JRPG tropes.

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Its an "utopia" from the leftist point of view. The guy from the dog eat dog past fucking up "utopians" was Phoenix so it counts.

that's what utopia are, well, at their extremes.

because its easier to build rules for the world when you start from primitive tech.
if you wanna write shit for an advanced cyberpunk style world you would need to know all kinds of bullshit jargon to be able to incorporate essential functions into that world

for example it would be easier to build my own rules for a fantasy world for shit like spells, scrying and counterspells rather than having to deal with electronics, programming and hacking. which have their already made rules, definitions and methods.

>but you could just bs it
no, you guys would bitch about how this doesn't work that way

Sound good ill check it out. I was thinking more like a ruthless merchant from Venice gets isekaied to a post scarcity world and fucks up the global economy with schemes and mercenaries, while the utopians are completely blindsided.

Give the mc some special lineage or experimental thing.
Most westernshit sci fi is the same too.

You want anime Zardoz?

>anime Zardoz
yes, with qt tomboy wearing only ammo belts as the MC

But there wouldn't be an economy, as we currently understand it. That's what post-scarcity means. When anyone anywhere can have their quantum creator or whatever make anything they want there's no need for economic activity.

Its an isekai anime user, its not supposed to make sense

>loser NEET MC gets killed by Truck-kun
>n alternate advanced sci-fi world, scientists were running an experiment to create a new kind of robot AI.
>
>MC's mind got pulled into their world and put in the body
>MC now has body with godlike physical and digital capbilities
>world is either peaceful utopia that he can then conquer, or grim cyberpunk world that he can use his powers to fight to the top of

Nah the only place you'll find wicked economics is Dungeon Nursery.

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Aren't fantasy settings effectively post-scarcity anyway? You can generate an infinite number of items from killing monsters.

Basically the gundam newtypes.

well, there's Meikyuu Black Company, but it's most likely the most awfully translated shit out there

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not really, because only a few people are able to actually kill monsters in large quantities. If anything monsters are a new type of resource that are very dangerous and labor intensive to cultivate. On that note we need an anime about a good old boy southern plantation owner that has a monster plantation and forces his slaves to endlessly fight monsters for the sweet drops.

I'm still waiting for an MC who buys work slaves instead of shitty pleasure slaves that he doesn't fuck.

>MC acquires a slave harem and then uses them for manual labor

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just like dystopians for young adult novels, the whole point of isekai for light novels is to mindlessly copy paste shit you've already seen 10000 times before

Are there any isekai where a native of the new world recognizes that they're dealing with an MC from another world and plays them for a fucking chump, manipulating the MC's godlike powers for their own advantage because the MC is a NEET loser with no social skills or real-life experience and is drunk on feeling like they're invincible hero?

Maybe a hybrid show: it's a futuristic sci-fi world, but it's based on the intensive, industrial-scale farming of monsters. It would have a cyberpunk feel where the big monster-farming corporations/families own almost everything.

Doesn't that Rembrant guy from Moonled Journey pull something like that on the MC? Like, it's not outright taking full advantage of him but he does trick him with that whole business about his dead family.

Zipang is kind similar to this
>future missile cruiser gets isekaied to WW2
>MC and crew all come from peaceful time and have never fought a war
>they rescue a nip Intel officer from a downed seaplane
>Nip recognizes that the crew is incredibly naive and far too trustworthy
>Nip manipulates them into doing what he wants as MC tries to stop him

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Stone age isekai when?

no, Dr.Stone doesn't count

The Otaku in 10,000 B.C.

You're welcome.

Is it really such a radical idea to throw them into a post apocalyptic setting then?

Why does the Hero character in those stories where MC doesn't have that role is always a super handsome Chad when in the actual stories with a Hero MC he is usually a generic faggot?

There is not so much difference between an isekai fantasy and an Isekai Sci-fi Cyberpunk. We have so many fantasy isekai simply because it is easier to write and most of these neo authors basically just tell what they know. of course, what they know is generally limited to video games or other Anime.
A cyberpunk isekai can easily work with a young "Tony Stark like" protagonist who can build anything from his ass and works for an evil corporation fully intended to manipulate the human race evolution into a path that favors their economic interests.

Also, a very simle and yet modern theme is certainly linked to the fake news. The subject could bring out a lot of material and interesting ideas. the MC could indeed be an adventurer journalist who is regularly sent to check if a mysterious event is bullshit or has a foundation of truth. All this with lightsabers, techno bubbles and other things that are the equivalent of skills and spells.

it really isn't that different.

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Could you repeat that in standard English?

that could be a good recipe for a Chinese isekai

>chink slave is slaving and being abused in a sweatshop, busy farming and grinding 16h/day in front of a screen to drop items to sell to westerners in some mmorpg
>falls asleep from overwork and then dies from the beating his boss gives him when he's found out sleeping
>get isekai'd as a monster farm owner
>goes on a chink edgy powertrip as a brutal woner who basically enslaves monsters and employees alike and tries to take over the world using absolute cynical, moralless, soulless and cruel methods

so... masturbation?

Revenge of the bugman

But it is. The problem is the knowledge difference. If you go back in time, your average modern person will know things they didn't in the past. But if you go into the future, you don't have that advantage. In fact, you're behind.

>A cyberpunk isekai can easily work with a young "Tony Stark like" protagonist who can build anything from his ass

Except he knows how to build things now, not working with whatever future tech there is. A brilliant engineer from 1850 would be lost today. Even a great programmer from a few decades ago would be lost using today's tech.

Though you could just say the MC had info about the future tech downloaded to his brain or whatever. But then usually the MCs in these stories aren't geniuses, they're total losers with no useful skills who get lucky.

>but in a more advanced society he'd have to occupy and inferior role
So Futurama?

Are chink isekai really like this? I've heard they're all bitter, insecure power fantasies but haven't read any.

Could you recommend one to try?

Fry was a delivery boy in the past and a space delivery boy in the future, not really an inferior role to his past job

not the chinks but Overlord always seemed like this to me

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Dungeon Meshi still is kinda medival, but its actually good.

Need more war isekai.

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Make it Idiocracy

This. We also need more WW1 era stuff

My point being that a worthless beta MC would be just as much of a worthless beta if he were isekai'd to the future. Futurama is pretty much the quintessential future isekai in that regard, and it's a comedy.

user... Can I remember you that the Otaku sent into the fantasy world magically get magical knowledge that terrifies the locals with fear? How would this be different from a MC who is cloned / defrozen and a mad scientist TROLOLO places a chip in his brain that magically makes him Tony Stark?

I agree that it's horrible and stupid, but it is the same stupid excuse of the God that grants divine powers to the Mc. The Mc is therefore ignorant about the world, but he has a power that immediately makes him a big deal.

He could work as a dude with common sense in a hyperspecialized society, like Togusa in GitS

>TROLOLO
Did you just wake from a 10 years long coma?

Seeing as how that is an American time period, I doubt most of the world really cares about that short period of time. Even most Americans don't. I see a lot of dumb zoomers dislike The Great Gatsby these days.
You don’t have to set a work in America for the Roaring Twenties. Weimar Germany had a similar urban cultural renaissance in the second half of the decade. The MC could be isekai’d into a fantasy version of Cabaret.

Oh sorry, you're right. This is a serious topic after all.

He uses the future tech to make a better katana, reintroduces shintoism.
Is actually kind and listening to the girls instead of the obsessed tech era guys and robots.
Knows the terror of robots and dictators unlike the population that has been brainwashed etc..
You on the other hand will die in a few days.

Why wouldn't they? Americans have countless movies about feudal Japan, so I'd assume the opposite would be true as well.

>Americans have countless movies about feudal Japan

Do they really have them?

Somehow greentext didn’t work when I pasted that quote. I’d like to add that a sci-fi isekai could work if you portray it like Demolition Man, where future society has changed so much that someone from our time is better equipped psychologically to handle the problem.

I would say it's more like Japan wouldn't give a fuck about such a meh american cultural period as the Roaring Twenties, aside from the Prohibition stuff.
You do have a bunch of jap stories set in the Wild West because that's a popular and actually interesting period.

they depict medieval europe like the west depicts darkest africa

Dungeon meishi.

>like the west depicts darkest africa
So wakanda?

If Liam knew that Rosetta is jelly he would probably be understanding

it's only his fortune that he managed to get such a wise master and helpful guide

Kumo fucking sucks tho

no, Egypt

that's Korean not chink

chinks just powerlevels to god

How did i know someone would post this

Well not Yea Forums, but I suggest Autumnlands.
Nanomachined supersoldier gets ported into a totally not nanomachine infused "magic" medival period.
Oh, and furries I guess. But I enjoy it non the less.

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Amber Sword?

Too hard for autors to come up with something original.

Where did Isaac Asimov touch you user?

Isekai is just fantasy for hack authors who dont know how to write.

I want a series all about a cultivator dying and getting isekai'd to a sci-fi world where the robots overthrew humanity

chink murderhobo destroying all nine generations of AM, Skynet, and the Matrix.

With big buildings, orders, glass and subpar agriculture like they should have? I bet you think medieval is some dystopia era.

haven't read any chink isekai, but pretty much for the latter. MC-kuns girlfriend gets raped or maybe killed or his family gets killed or whatever stake happens, MC-kun finds the legendary phoenix aura and then stomps anyone who tries to fight him, while seeking/getting revenge.

>John Connor but much more autistic
kek

Despite the fact that i do not mind some Fantasy Isekai, the point is simply this.

Overlord

>no wish fulfillment
>no harem
Come the fuck on

Name a fiction that isn't autobiography, history with no wish fulfillment you can't

Wasn't it cancelled?

they are shameless powerfantasies but are less about shitting on certain people and more about "MC is the best like no one ever was haters can try to hate but they're courting death"

I guess MGA is something to read, it's not good at all, but it's basically has all the cliches you will find in that genre. (except the powerleveing exposition dumps)

Origin from death mage adaptation would be neat.

Have you only ever consumed isekai?

If it was wish fulfillment Ainz would be with his friends, user
And no, they are his daughters, no fucktoys

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no about how the natives are a bunch of primitive dumbasses that don't know the things that IRL medieval guys did.

he wants something like Berserk

>wish fulfillment
I really don't understand this argument, Ainz is living a life where he literally can't do anything he wants

Becauase basic knowledge and tools from today wouldn't be superpowers in a sci-fi setting.
>oh shit protag knows match
>oh shit protag owns a phone
>oh shit protag knows basic physics or chemistry
Isekai is supposed to sell the idea of a self-insert nobody is sent to this magical land where they're now special and get things they didn't have in our world.

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>If it was wish fulfillment Ainz would be with his friends, user

Oh, Bait kun.

Ainz being a lonely faggot doesn't mean the story isn't wish fulfillment, there is enough good to outweight the bad.

So are you looking for other people to tell you how stupid you are?

yet most isekai gives cheats to the MC that has nothing to do with them anyway.

Just give him magic that fucks over all tech anyway
or a spaceship that's better than all other spaceships
or have them despite being about to FTL spacetravel they don't know lot of modern knowledge (there are premises even dumber in isekai)
or have him isekai as a planet

Goblin Slayer. Bring on the (You)'s.

He can do literally everything he wants, he just needs to stop being such an autistic and paranoid retard.
Most readers will just focus on his god-like power, the massive organization he leads and all the bitches who want his non-existant cock and ignore the fact that he is a sad fucker that feels alienated from everyone else and is desperate to meet his friends just to have someone he can treat as an equal.

> classical antiquity
The average Isekai viewer is too stupid to tell the difference. Beside, the average Isekai setting is too blended to really distinguish between time periods. It's always "vaguely European, at some point in time before gunpowder was invented" type of affair.
> Cyberpunk
Why would Japanese people want to be reincarnated into a slightly more futuristic version of their society?
> Roaring twenties
Irrelevant to nips. Probably doesn't really exist in their imaginations like "medieval Europe" does.

the only reason Great Gatsby is bad is because Gatsby himself is a fucking unbearable asshat shitter. Other than that, the setting and the rest of the characters are actually really fun.

and powerlevels

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>I want a series all about a cultivator dying
What does cultivator mean in this context.

Part of the inherent appeal of isekai is that (You), the abject failure at life reading it, could be popular and successful with just the stuff you already know from school and maybe a "cheat" or two.

So, because the majority of readers are retards, the story is wish fulfillment? Got it, I bet they are the same people who think Shirou is a self-insert character

Manhwa term for "Magic Kung Fu user"

user really hates agriculture.

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murderhobo that at least knows a bit about murderhobo arts before isekai'd

though since he is sort of the symbol of organic life at that point might as well make his dao more nature-based

oh and the robots also cultivate, something they got during the singularity

The story is wish fulfillment because the author is totally expecting the readers to react like that, it's not an unexpected reaction.
People are always going to focus on the things they find appealing and ignore everything else.
Same with Shirou. He is indeed a wish fulfillment character because his cool power, harem of chicks and ultra-interesting life are attractive enough for people to wish to be him while ignoring the fact that he is fucking insane.

Because writing a futuristic setting demands far more creativity, imagination, worldbuilding and writing skills than those possessed by the japanese NEET uploading their dross to the internet.

Writing some faux-medieval crap with some Dragon Quest sprinkled in is easy mode.

>oh and the robots also cultivate
THEY TOOK OUR JOBS

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>Why would Japanese people want to be reincarnated into a slightly more futuristic version of their society?

I don't think it matters. What matters is that the Mc, who was no one in his original world, in the new world gets, success, absolute power and a harem of virgins that exist only to satisfy his desires without any kind of ambition or personal agenda. Not surprisingly, the females are often slaves.

Let's hear it.

I just want a straightforward answer please

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One of those answers is a straightforward and honest answer.

>no wish fulfillment
>no harem

>capable of seeming clever in a cyberpunk world (or any sort of futuristic world
education != intelligence
assume everyone is extremely brainwashed and propagandized, and any degree of genuine curiosity or questioning is punished severely (through some gamified system like social credit)

almost like real life.

>this post was sponsored by google

It refers to spiritual cultivation, it's a theme in almost all chinese series, and many series from other asian nations, mostly associated with kung fu, and killing a hell of a lot of people.

Lets call it hiatus.
This twitter message is less then a day ago and it doesn't sound like its compleatly written off.
twitter.com/Perraup/status/1161438425138044928

What about reverse isekai like Thermae Romae?

Because the only way to have a wholey different fantasy world is by isekai. With sci-fi you just need to say "and the technology advanced" and you can have any sci-fi world you desire.

Classical antiquity there's quite a few of them and bronze age isekai, but they just look like the medieval shit anyway because nip isekai authors know about western history like Americans know eastern history
>medieval society with bikinis

There is a doraemon movie that is similar to what you posted.

B-bros...
crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2019/08/13-1/koei-tecmo-trademarks-isekai-musou-let-your-imaginations-run-wild

>So, does this mean we'll be seeing Re:ZERO's Subaru slashing away on the battlefield alongside Overlord's Ainz Ooal Gown and Ais from Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?? Only if Koei Tecmo knows what's good for 'em!
>Ais from Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon??
>Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon??
>isekai
Of course the native isekai retards are also CRfags.

It's too bad honestly, it looked really promising.
Nevertheless, it's seems to be a nice read even if ends up not getting finnished.

Because that's what SAO did.

>Why Isekai's setting is always Medieval
Because majority of cheap fantasy novels are set in medieval setting.
>uturistic cyberpunk, roaring twenties/jazz age aesthetic or classical antiquity
Because it takes creativity. Producers are afraid of people being ultra-creative and isekai authors are too dumb to be creative in general.

Romans had "bikinis"

Isekai is not in a medieval environment not even medieval fantasy like Slayer, it is in a generic MMORPG, it is not necessary to build anything, the scenery, characters, rules and situations are already written, it's just a matter of rewriting the same

Do you ever read anything more complex than something directed towards 12 year olds?

Why don't you just read normal fantasy or sci-fi manga which aren't fucking isekai garbage, and often do have weird or cool settings?

>futuristic isekai

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Because there are few of those and I read them all way too quickly while isekai shits out a new series every two hours.

>fake news
all news is fake.
all news is representation, not the thing in itself.
in giving truthful, but undue attention to the least common and most negative, selective coverage distorts what it pretends to simply report.
Shakespeare understood – Iago was never less than completely honest and sincere –
falseness is not a quality of words or of "liars", but in the dupes who uncritically believe in ideas instead of in things.

these ideas dont need the contrivance of cyperpunk isekai to be explored or alluded to, Aquarion Logos did a fine job of it, as did the Hellsing theme "Logos Naki World"

>society collapses
desu it would have happened long before that

Illiterate retard. He lists not only cyberpunk you brainlet.

Grimgar.

So it's Demolition Man?

Anyone ever notice how nobody in the other worlds poop? Plenty of talk about food, bathing, etc, but no mention of outhouses, toilets, or just squatting down in nature.
No running water, no toilet paper, it must be hell.

Are there any Wild West Isekai?

westworld

>Having "lost" knowledge/skill.
If MC is your average nobody, this is very unlikely. MC often has no special skills or knowledge for the present, he's usually just an average person with an education level which is average at best, so the knowledge and skills he has are very likely to be extremely common in the population he comes from, so I think it'd be pretty unlikely for him to have some special knowledge which is beneficial to a much more advanced society but they have forgotten or can't figure out anyway.

Depends on what that society is like I guess. If you throw him into a future society which has reverted to medieval-like living conditions due to an apocalyptic event, then I don't think that's very different from throwing him into a basic medieval fantasy setting with no post-apocalyptic flavor.

Back to the Future III

There's I, the female robot. Which takes the scientist does brainscan of herself then wakes up centuries later in a robot body.

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I was thinking more in the lines of madmax, where basic knowledge of farming and shit would be really useful.
Have the MC edge out an exsistence in a world that is trying to kill him every step of the way.

How long does it take for Rosetta to finally break down to Liam?

It's not the MC, but one of the other heroes in that is used.

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Or the 2010s.
God did those directors actually call it.

I guess, but in a Mad Max style world if I'm not mistaken the problem with farming isn't as much the knowledge but the state of the world itself. It just seems kind of hard to imagine that such basic knowledge wouldn't survive or wouldn't be figured out again, since your average person living in a city certainly won't have any advanced or in-depth farming knowledge (I for one know basically nothing). I imagine if people survive the apocalypse, trying to set up farms would be the first thing they do and it would be essential knowledge which is passed on. Doesn't have to be just farming either, same goes for any skill which is essential for survival I think. The initial surviving population would still have modern-day knowledge and would probably make it a priority out of necessity to teach their children as well.

That's kind of the thing if the story is in the future, you'd have to explain how people lost essential (but not advanced) knowledge in the first place while still surviving. It's much easier with a story in the past, because e plausible explanation is basically built into the premise and basically requires no development at all: the knowledge isn't there because it hasn't been discovered yet in the first place.

Why would you even want that?
Also,if by no harem, you mean that not all girls fawn over MC, try Savage Divinity, or Metaworld Chronicles. I don't think you can find any example in nip isekai.

And just as I wrote that, I remembered. Try Meikyuu Black Company.

There's no free water in the Mad Max, it hasn't rained in decades and most of the water that does exist is radioactive. What the people in the Mad Max universe need is some kind of self sustaining futuristic food/water recycling system designed for a spaceship.

Mad Max universe is somewhere everything went wrong, from nuclear war, biological war, total economic collapse, all(most) animals died, almost all plants died, oceans dried up. Even the Fallout setting still has rain, lakes and oceans.

No, the thing about the mad max universe specifically is that everyone is mad. The only knowledge passed down is the knowledge of fixing warmachines. All the basics are gone. I'm not even sure if the series ever too kthe time to explain how people produced food. That's actually not true, I believe that in one of the movies a power structure had build up around one guy knowing how to farm pigs. They fed them human meat if memory serves right.
Although I will grant you that most people of cause don't know anything but the most basic of shit, the only thing you need is for the mc to have been some sort of civil engineer and presto, you have an excuse of how he might be able to think up an irrigation system.

I don't know though, I'll give you that it definitely is strating to sound a little contrived

Level grinding but with kung fu shit

The setting still has aquifers which are radiation free.

did the power of rice fail?

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You're making too much sense. Isekai rarely puts this much thought into world building and barely explain why things are.

It still has girls and cool mc so it's wish fulfillment.

What do you want then? Only something boring as fuck will hit your buttons. If that's really what you're going for, unironically try inn.

Liam's only cheats are autism and a maidbot and he still managed to thrive in the dark future of the 41st millenium.

It had one aquifer that was radiation free, someone left the valves open as a political statement. Aquifers are replenished by rain, it hasn't rained in decades so that water's gone now.

Fuck it, get fucking Aisin Gioro Pu Yi bitter after the fall of Manchukuo, already a gardener, to a future where a fat, lazy and already overconfident Chinese Empire has forgotten how to even work a gun, and make him somehow utilize his memories as a gardener know what landscapes can help him guerrilla his way into the Throne to recover his Kingdom.

You seriously believe that only one aquifer on the entire planet earth existed?
Okay then, how about cathing moisture out of the night air with filters?

>No, the thing about the mad max universe specifically is that everyone is mad
IIRC even water isn't easily available and pretty much the whole planet is a desert. How are they going to farm? I'm not even sure if actual crop plants survived in Mad Max either.

Yeah but most isekai is set in medieval fantasy lands with literal magic, so a lot of questions don't even need asking in those settings because the answers are usually going to be
>literal magic
>MC knows things which haven't yet been discovered
>sometimes things aren't discovered because a magical substitute exists
That's kind of the point I'm making. "Medieval fantasy with magic" is a very easy setting to work with, precisely because it doesn't require a lot of background work in order to make something that most viewers will find baseline plausible. That sort of setting avoids questions like "how did the modern world end up like this?" since those simply don't apply. It's simply some other world with whatever differences the author wanted it to have, no need to explain how it got there. MC just sees it the way it is when he arrives.

The Japanese were feudal savages up until the mid-19th century; returning to the age of chivalry feels like going home to them

The newest one has them have some crop seeds and the big bad guy's hide out has some trees and shit.
But you're right. Hydroponics, which would be what is required here, is a bit too far out.

>how about cathing moisture out of the night air with filters?
Diminishing returns. Recapturing a tiny fraction of the water vapor lost from the settlement, they're not replenishing their supply, they're simply losing slightly less. Once that water leaves the immediate area it's gone forever. That was the first source of water found in the entire series and they wasted it.

Course water is just the most immediate of concerns; within a few centuries they'll be running out of breathable oxygen.

Arthur Dent became an esteemed sandwich-maker so anything is possible

Because without fantasy that would be just time travel.

The Show By Rock!! anime adaptation was a pop rock musical isekai anime set in an urban fantasy cyberpunk world inhabited by adorable mouthless little furry creatures who all loved music. And the manager of the protagonist's band was a living egg.
And the main protagonist transformed into a cute catgirl fighting giant monsters that incorporated giant boomboxes.

Because anime, baby. That's how it rolls.

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This is the worst isekai trope. The MC will cook synthetic fish with zymoveal sauce and everyone will cum to the totally oishii Japanese food.

Futuristic isekai would be ballin out of control but you have to wonder what the future of these societies could possibly be

A) some demon lord grinds forever and destroys the universe for making him exist
B) people die out because the world is hostile as fuck and heroes are not enough to protect a points of light setting
C) a post-scarcity dystopia where wizards control everything and the martial adepts and peasants are useless baggage

>There was some isekai WN about a D&D wizard isekai
I mean, it is still ongoing. Even if the author's only uploaded 9 chapters all year, and hasn't updated in over 3 months now.

You missed the most obvious path:
>Magical WMD are developed; MAD doctrine introduced; everyone dies because of some stupid shit.

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>futuristic cyberpunk
Cyberpunk is dead, not even isekai will revive it.
>roaring twenties/jazz age
What are you going to set in it if not a mafia story?
And how do you tie the isekai into that?

see

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Yas did the Arion manga and movie, which is based on Greek mythology.

I think it's a combination of isekai LN's being lazy and cyberpunk/anything relatively modern being too shit to be fun. Cyberpunk is just what society is going to be like in the near future and the appeal of isekai is, at least partially, seeing and average guy being thrown in a world that's different enough from his own as to be interesting while at least being familiar to the point that he could suceed with his knowledge and intuition of the world based on media/experiences he consumed/had. To me the ideal non-Dragon-Quest-ripoff setting would be a biopunk setting with Art Deco aesthethics, with a little bit of Lovecraftian shit thrown in.

Try Lord of the Mysteries. You may like it.

i fucking loved this anime. so much fun.

Forget cyberpunk. Space isekai ala Star Wars or Warhammer 40K when?

>Space Isekai
Nip already has its own version of that, and it's called Mecha genre.

>40K isekai
>neet gets ported to some obscure planet in the outer rim
>goes to ask locals what the fuck is going on
>non gothic language is confused for chanting
>imediately gets made into a servitor
I would unironically watch all one and a half episodes.

she'll be calling him sempai by the end of the volume

but afterwards she has to rival with Tia and Marie

Will take a look at it, thanks.

I want to see a post apocalyptic isekai where it's still medieval-ish or whatever because that's how far back we managed to bomb ourselves, but with some bits of high tech mixed in every now and then. City guard using melee weapons except the captain who got his hands on an energy rifle. Bad guy robbing a bank with a plasma grenade and everyone just rolls with it because they don't want half the town going up in flames.

I mean, if you just add monsters and mutants too it just becomes gritty Adventure Time

Not sure about d&d setting, but "The Faraway Paladin" checks out

>not powerfantasying it
>not making MC the most powerful psyker because he has the most purist human genes
>not having him get complete resistance to the warp influence and kill demons easily
>not nerfing the inquisitors to Saturday morning cartoon villains
>not having the MC bring about a technological revolution by reintroducing tech from his time and having the Admech worship him in the process as the omnissiah
>not having him get the complete respect of the eldar and orks
>not being best buddies with Trazyn who himself is revealed to be an isekai'd
>not giving him a harem with Slannesh being a part of that harem
>not having him BTFO the imperial cult
>not introducing diplomacy to 40k
>not one-shooting the main hivefleet

I think I just lost a piece of my fucking soul reading this, thanks user.

So Captain Tylor? Also isekaifag can life his whole life on a paradise world and never see any kind of action at all.

Why read The Wandering Inn, when you can make your own isekai?

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Impostor.

Just give him ability to perfectly camouflage as orc and make him begrudgingly lead the WAAAGH

>she'll be calling him sempai
How? They are in the same grade.

Mookhyang kinds reminds me of Dark Mage, only without an ugly MC. It's kinda funny how the magic works like MT too, but at least the MC for as great as he is, isn't so strong that he can Orsted his way through everything.

What I don't get is why he's so obsessed with going back immediately. At least, the manhwa hasn't shown us any reason for him to be attached to his old world so far. But according to mangaupdates this is no LN adaptation so where's all the missing detail?

Jesus christ, the translator's definitely crap at English, and probably crap at Japanese

they arent in the medieval setting. Most of them feature a Rennaisance 30 years war period aesthetic

Reviewing isekai settings would be a good Shadiversity episode

the female form ruined it

you got to go completely bullshit son

oh and I forgot
not making the old ones a race of lolis which lead Trazyn to make the original deal with the C'tan just to molest said lolis

>Most of them feature a Rennaisance 30 years war period aesthetic
Where are my Landsknechts then?

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>beings of unimaginable power
>lolis
I mean that's a given.

pikes are apparently unpopular to japs for some reason. Longswords/broadswords, however, are a renaissance invention. Most isekai feature some kind of broadsword/longsword weapon. I hope that future isekai authors are autistic enough to study Medieval warfare tactics.

I take everything back, I want to see just how hilariously bad this ends up being

Although going full grimdark autism still sounds more fun desu. Just imagine having him inlist in the death korps of krieg.

At least give him cheat bayonet or hatchet skill.

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Arent landsnekhts just German protestant mercenaries who got rich? Im thinking more of Tercios or Condotierri

I think that blatant LOTM thread fucked up with the meme balance.

Not Wild West, but Isekai Frontier Exploration ala Mountain Man (like The Revenant) would be nice

>expecting worldbuilding from isekai authors
user you need to create authentic flora, fauna interesting terrain, different cultures and races for exploration to be interesting.

He can have a tactical combat shovel.

does "hard to be a god" count?

Everyone in Krieg have those though.

Exactly

>concussing your own kid during training because you were frustrated about your teenage nickname getting out
What the fuck Nord? Your son ought to fry your shit with magic next time just to teach you a lesson in parenting.
Kek, fair enough.

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I like how right off the bat the bad guys so far don't seem to be too evil. They are desperate men taking desperate measures, and the MC isn't even gonna gonna coincidentally be on their side to save the day either.

I just had a stroke of brilliance, why not have him be a reincarnating psyker? Might remove some of the initial tesion, but hey that's what side characters are for, being killed off.

>reincarnating psyker
Like a reincarnated psyker or reincarnating psyker? Because I'm pretty sure latters exist even among humans, not to mention entire Eldar race. When literal demons are sitting in warp waiting to torture and eat your soul it kinda motivates people to invest in their soul safety.

>in the future robots have taken over the world
>they enslave humanity and use implants to force them to cultivate so they can steal their meridians and use them as building materials for more cultivator bots
>mc reincarnated after failing a heavenly tribulation due to his reckless cultivation speed
>uses his knowledge to reverse-cultivate and delay his harvest date while he figures out how the implants work
>decides to escape before he's culled
>"Let me soar through the sky or die in the mud!"
>double-cultivates with himself and the implants, goes so hard they explode out of his body like nukes
>reforms himself out of pure dao by following a cultivator-bot blueprint
>"Spring and Autumn bring great change to the world, only the Dao remains!"

There's a WN series about that at ncode.syosetu.com/s0113f/ and I wouldn't be surprised if there's more.

The latter, it wasn't meant to be special. I know that even humans can be a reincarnating psyker.
Not all eldars can reincarnate btw, that's why they tend to keep their souls in rocks so Slaanesh can't buttfuck them for eternity when they expire.
I guess the constant demon thread could work as a pretty good reason not to get killed constantly.

All the while Amagi has the head wife position I bet. But is Rossetta being held back a year or something? Or is it just because Liam is just that much better than her that she feels she needs to call him that?

Pso2: The Animation

Why can't we just have normal fantasy settings without the mmo vidya shit? Why can't we just have something like that? Bonus points if they use actual European sword fighting techniques.

You go back in time as far as you have to in order to justify the main character having a sword. That means setting your story in the baroque period.
Going back further just makes the setting more different from today and therefore more complicated to write.

the one with the girl who's a spider monster

Does he have a hiatus fetish or something?

>Witch's Counterattack

Is it time for Leslie to put the hammer to these cunts

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>muh humanshit
>not isekai’d as a hivefleet norm queen
>not getting a cheat holy boost for the hive
>not chaos corrupted all life so you are now the last hope for order
>not fighting the other hivefleets to be the singular hive
>not making the orks into superior pink orcs and lead your cultured society
>not saving the beastmen from corruption and making the imperial of beastmen with its own pyskers
>not making a giant hive Xenos and hive katana to cut planets

Twelve Kingdoms, it takes place in the less advanced society but it's not medieval fantasy and the characters don't have cheat powers (if they have any).

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Now and then, here and there. Post apocalyptic, characters are normal people who don't have any power.

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What are some modern-ish isekai with bittersweet or even dark endings?

I call "being a divinely anointed immortal king" a cheat

apparently Dungeon Defense had a bad end world is destroyed anyway

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Anime when? the early chapters were really whatever but I loved it after a while.

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>read Black Iron's Glory
>comments are about how fucking slow pace it is and that the author is doing effort in world building
>we want action!
damn son

It's like that for all chink shit with less than non stop action. I remember in The Ravages of Time, the author once put up a poll and it turned out the vast majority of readers who wanted more action and less intrigue/schemes/etc come from mainland China. Meanwhile the ones who favor the opposite almost all came from Hong Kong and Taiwan. South East Asia is split in the middle and varies a bit here and there depending on the region.

Kinda infuriating glancing at it. I prefer seeing the buildup for the eventual face slapping.

In my opinion they are just impatient. They never seem to mind this shit when they binge it.

Any Isekai's with the MC being useless and having to actually adapt to succeed?
No special skill or knowledge helps him, he needs to do things the long and hard way.

It's hard to make (relatively) convincing reasons for MC being OP as fuck when he's the neanderthal in the setting and everyone else is better because gen.modding / cybernetic enhancements / being jacked in 24/7 / knowledge.
Sure you could dumb the sci-fi world down to make MC stand out but that would be even more jarring than with a fantasy one.

I get worried when Yea Forums starts to post intelligently. It goads me into thinking something good may happen in a thread.

Of course mainland insects want mindless violence, it's already in their mindset since ancient times.

>any post I don't like is a shitpost

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That has more to do with communism, otherwise Hong Kong wouldn't have even formed to begin with. There are countless innocents and rational people persecuted over those years but honestly that isn't exactly special or uncommon with the rest of the world either, it's just the excuse for persecution is different.

If you're creative enough to come up with a unique setting, you're creative enough to write a protagonist without the crutch of having him be from our world.

what gets written is not what gets published, and what gets published is not necessarily an accurate reflection of audience demand.
publishing houses frequently abuse their editorial discretion to create an IMPRESSION of demand that becomes self perpetuating or a self-fulfilling prophecy.

this isnt limited to the isekai trend - "payola" notoriously was the largest force on the music industry for decades. And it has obviously been a major cause of the capeshit trend as well.

I think, some part of the "litrpg" setting (which it is well worth emphasizing bears little or no actual resemblance to ANY real world medieval setting) is propagandistic: even in a fantasy world where verisimilitude would force small and rural populations, we see depicted only "town" life - which is to say a reflection of modern urbanity.
instead of depicting egalitarian societies, or realistically portraying the cruelty of inequality, these fantasies, like "the taming of the shrew" show a common rube thrust into the role of an elite - which on one section of the audience, serves as propaganda to accept urban, neo-feudal modernity as 'temporarily embarrassed millionaires" - and on another segment of the audience, to inflame their contempt and spite for the "boorish, vulgar, common man"

I happen to agree with the publisher problem we have. But i guess it happens in all types of media. Something becomes the dominating story type. Question is is it even wrong to do? Fad's come and go. Isekai took over from battle schools as the current fad. Something will dethrone isekai as the next genre that has 2-3 shows per season and people shitpost saying they are the worse thing ever.
My bet the moe genre or Idol fags get a turn in the popular chair next.
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I think, some part of the "litrpg" setting (which it is well worth emphasizing bears little or no actual resemblance to ANY real world medieval setting) is propagandistic: even in a fantasy world where verisimilitude would force small and rural populations, we see depicted only "town" life - which is to say a reflection of modern urbanity.
I think most isekai are so guilty of this. A small example is that the MC refuses alcohol because he is under age upholding modern Japanese laws. In a true euro setting of lets say 1500 to 1700AD drinking ale/wine was safer than drinking water. There is more we could say about the settings.
>realistically portraying the cruelty of inequality
I have seen some of them do address the times in that way, but most of them run in to fuck it up.
>Slavery is bad mkay
>Frees all slaves because JUSTICE

Erica.

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Do you know isekai genre popular in LN and LN writer are trash that why

It still medieval but atleast thay have giant robot

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>communism
Communism wasn't around for thousands of years yet China managed to have millions die off.

It's more that they have a few fatal flaws, like living next to a volatile river that loves to flood.

Those were different issues. Chinks still managed to produce normal people if a bit weak thanks to repeated invasions until communism that literally brainwashed them into fucking over their own family members for little short term gain in the name of the state. Up until that point chinks never had to deal with such a thing no matter how many times they got their asses handed to them.

The very fact that Hong Kong and Taiwan are so radically different from the mainland is proof enough.

mainland chinks probably can't into intrigue very well since anything that seems a bit too similar to modern chink government intrigue would get it banned by the CCP.

Hong Kong and Taiwan had the benefit of British and Japanese occupation, respectively.

I'm not saying they can't into intrigue, my point was they preferred action more. And you're right, just look at Lorist and Claude, axed and censored up the ass.

That's true but that doesn't take away the fact that they were people worth occupying in the first place. Take a look at Africa and compare, or even India. They didn't destroy everything they were taught nor did they decide to just leg hump their occupiers and follow back to their overlord's homeland. No, they built themselves up their home and made it work.

The same applies to early chink immigrants. And I mean early, not like modern immigrants who just flaunt cash, but people who genuinely came to escape the CCP in the first place. Those chinks generally worked fucking hard and I don't see many complaints about their generation unlike the chink 'immigrants' of today, or even if you compared them to other immigrant races.

>it's gone forever
Where did it go?

>Why not something like futuristic cyberpunk, roaring twenties/jazz age aesthetic

Because all that american garbage is fucking disgusting, and antiquity is practically the same as medieval

Moon-led journey has some shitty scans. Even Mangadex does not help.

In general I never liked cyberpunk settings, space/futuristic ones sure but even with 99% of narou isekai being medieval I'm totally fine with it. High Fantasy settings were always more appealing.

>that front most bridge
Thats obviously a massive load bearing bridge, meaning it should be carrying something big like a train, which would beg the question, why the fuck does it not go anywhere then? Pointless bullshit

Because that would mean taking a risk with something audiences aren't familiar with, user.

Ainz changed Albedo's background in the beginning because he wanted to fuck her.

Obviously that's the path for very overweight pedestrians.

Made in Abyss has nice worldbuilding.

Rape her goddamnit!

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Can't rape the willing, the moment she consented the moment she was defeated.

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When is she getting the knot?
>look at this sword
>my sword is amazing!

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What if the setting is dieselpunk and the protagonist is from cyberpunk?

He runs out of battery.

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Kino's Journey.

Because even if you were above average in terms or fitness you would stand no chance against police with guns.
Sure, you can be strong and carry bigger guns, but they would have 1000 times more guns than you.

In medieval setting the power depends on person, in sci-fi it depends on technology and industry, not much place for one-man army unless you become something ridiculously strong and durable like Wolverine or Hulk or somehow you get your hands on epic mech.

Nothing to do with protestant or being rich, just german mercenaries with an amazing aesthetic.

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Then someone gets the fucking idea to shove a Tesla coil where the battery should be.

>in sci-fi it depends on technology and industry, not much place for one-man army
Unless your technology is far more advanced.

Fate Grand Order is isekai to ancient Babylon. That's long before the medieval era.

Kuro no Mao.

It does have harem but at least I can understand why girls would like him. He's 1m90, manly face, toned muscles and actually strong. The girls themselves aren't 1 dimensional damsels either.

Fuck agriculture.

>Sure, you can be strong and carry bigger guns, but they would have 1000 times more guns than you.
That's literally the same case with swords. You're sure as hell not going to win a fight where you're outnumbered because of skill. The reason why people for whatever reason register that as "more realistic" than one guy going up against a 100 guys with guns is because general public knowledge, and by extension the authors' knowledge about combat before guns is so little and they are so misinformed that people back then might as well have been using magic to them. The fact that most of their exposure to that era is from entertainment heavily steeped in romance and fantasy doesn't help.

He's going to get NTRd isn't he?

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I don't care if he does or not, he's easily the worst part of his series.

Because JRPG games stock sword & magic settings. When cyberpunk games become as popular in Japan, you'll start to see it in manga and anime.

With dozen of years delay for teenage cyberpunk games players to get old and join wageslavery

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is she fucking the dog?

I wish the black ninja wolf is more likely to get the knot

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>hurr durr why not isekai
oh my god dude go fuck yourself

HOW ABOUT NO MORE ISEKAI AT ALL
JUST MAKE REAL FUCKING FANTASY

>generic medieval high fantasy isekai in season 1
>end of season 1 and shit hits the fan
>season 2 is a post-apocalyptic wasteland isekai with aliens invading to conquer the now crippled world

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It's literally this. 17 hours and no FPBP, wtf.

The entire point of "isekai" is that the authors are lazy or stupid and have no experience with worldbuilding so they ride a bandwagon of tropes everyone can already easily identify with.
>omg lol this is just like my dragon quests! i have to defeat the maou! oh but MY story has a twist! like, the maou is a good guy! or the main character is a support class but learns how to use his cooking skill to become the strongest hero in the world!

It's all stupid garbage and you should dive headfirst in a volcano for consuming it.

Nah it's been done it didn't sell well unlike isekai. It's here to stay famalam 30% of enjoyment I get is you stupid fucks whining how it's degrading media quality.

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>stop liking things I hate
Make me retard isekai is best thing that happened to novels, manga and anime in decades, perhaps in all the time they existed.

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Well, true, but at least medieval setting doesn't have planes with infrared cameras, so you can still sneak away.
And it's still less bullshit to survive an arrow volley with a shield than a machine gun fire.
Armor back then was effective against swords while still letting you to be fairly mobile, while now ceramic plate to stop few bullets to the chest is heavy as fuck, not to mention sheer impossibility of cladding yourself whole in bullet plates.

Battles in medieval times weren't as lethal unless one side was retreating in panic or got into ambush. Serious conflicts that used more advanced guns now bring huge casualties. Add the bullshit patriotism bullshit and you have masses cheaply paid men act as meatshields.

Is there a bigger tone shift in anime? I fucking hated the second season.

Interaction between the familiar and unfamiliar is provably much more interesting than the unfamiliar and the unfamiliar.

You're much more likely to enjoy a high school student going to another world and becoming the hero, than a commoner native from that world stumbling upon the hero's sword in the forest and becoming a hero, than an orcgoblindragonkin monster becoming the hero.

you mean native isekai?

t armorfag
The age of dodgetanks had come, modern soldiers just aren't supposed to be where opponent is shooting. Git gut granpa until exoskeletons armor age is over.

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>token titty elf
KITAAAAAAA

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Immortan Joe had a green house hooked up to the aquifer that his fortress was built upon.

If you're going for the "more realistic" angle then none of that matters since if you plan to be involved in more than a single battle the logistics of long distance movement, provisions, maintenance of equipment and every one of the many other factors that decide who wins or lose wars still apply so unless you have an entire organization backing you for you to hop from one place to another murderhoboing you will not last long at all. Furthermore the stealth angle doesn't work either since people aren't as stupid as they are in movies and video games, you can't magically kill a guy with an arrow's instant touch of death, have him completely silently fall and have no one around him notice and rinse and repeat. There's a reason why you don't hear of fortifications back then being taken out by a small group of guys, the lack of modern technology does not suddenly make everyone on the other side stupid. There really isn't a point to saying that one is more realistic than the other when both scenarios are equally ludicrous.

O MY CROP ROTATION

I unironically think she's hot.

Well, true.
Medieval setting is simply cooler in my book.

Why is Overlord so comfy bros?

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>CTRL+F "muv"
>0 results

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Its worldbuilding is a cheap mess.

There’s a D&D like setting that could work as a isekai, Numenera. Basically the setting is a post-apoc world that’s had 9 apocalypses. Magic is actually technology, magical tools are relics of a bygone era...etc.

cause it's fun

Because we're living cyberpunk now and it sucks.

Cyberpunk without the punk.

> never use the phrase "it's just like a video game" in sci-fi isekai

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It obviously takes much more writing capability to write a world with nuances other than "dragon quest lmao" so obviously not as many people are going to do it.
There are loads of noir or cyberpunkish manga, most of it just untranslated/unpopular. Keyman and No Guns Life for example

Is this the one where they lose the stone?

How does she know my favorite position?

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Overlord has the powerful NPC's realize the MC got isekai'd. But they still suck his dick nonstop.

if they ever make a scifi DQ, then you'll see more scifi isekai

There are some.

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because dragon quest reasons

>real fantasy
Not self-insert pandering so it will not sell well.

>fantasy
>not self-insert pandering
Retard.

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I mean pandering to scrawny otaku neet as themselves, not as chad muscular dude like western audience. This is japan that we're talking about here brainlet.

>conan only panders to /fit/
If that's what you're saying - you're even more retarded than I initially assumed.
If not - isekai means transfer of existing body, some of them get /fit/ after but the base stat is that of typical modern day office worker, not the gladiator arena combat slave, and there's nothing surprising about it unless you're a retard.
If you failed to notice Dragon Quest and JRPG doesn't usually feature steroid MC either, retard.

TL;DR: All fantasy is inherently self-insert pandering.
You're a retard for missing that.

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I understand that last panel very well.

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It's not only about the /fit/, it's the characterization pandering. Japanese audience of Isekai can relate more to loser otaku MC that became chad in another world rather than native fantasy MC, even though the native MC themselves is also a loser.

9/10 isekaifags are average wageslaves and not otaku.

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Kek just bite the bullet and buy a club lol at this point it's obvious she can't keen the blade for the life of her.

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Huh, I wonder why.

Because they're desperately in need of escape and this kind of desire pays.

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Oh shit don't they have plagiarism laws in Japan?

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Becuase that unironically takes a lot of effort into a setting that a mangaka is probably not familiar with at all. With Medieval settings you can just do whatever you want because you can just do whatever and people will be okay with it.

you cant plagiarize a dog picking up something with its mouth

Don't tell me how to live my life!

Very few chapters use the best available monthly raws.

>I-IT DOESN'T COUNT IF IT'S ISEKAI
Kill yourself retard.

Could be lost because humans stopped learning them for some reasons.

d&d

Well, isekai tend to drop all mentions of annoying things that could undermine the wish-fulfilment of your self-insert and make you realize medieval society are shit.
Life expectancy of 50 y.o.? dropped.
Having to go to the wells or fountain to get water because no home water? dropped
Non-existant surgery, retarded medical knowledge, drugs based on empiric observations limited to some plants? dropped
Having to set your days according to the sunlight? dropped
Having a food horizon of 2 or 3 days at best and spending most of your time thinking about how to get food? dropped
Mostly undrinkable water? dropped
Families of 12? dropped
Stinky streets with no swers, people throwing their wastes through the doors? dropped
Skyhigh children mortality and pregnancy being a serious death threat? dropped
Unefficient heating making you freeze for 2/3 of a year? dropped

and so on...

I agree, with the other user, and the great thing is Isekai will continue because those that enjoy it far outnumbers whiny bitches like you. The free market is wonderful

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If only there was magic to take care of those...

Because fantasy you fuck. Tell me why DnD isn't set in a technological future with quantum dungeons and AI dragons?

pointed out that only a few have access to it in some cases.

Although depending on the setting it would still be faster to try building something to pump in water.

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>Why Isekai's setting is always Medieval?
Why do I see this weird sentence construction so much on Yea Forums? Is it some Spanish ESL thing or a meme I missed?

doesn't answer the no antiquity or pre-history setting.

Remember /spa/? It's probably spics.
t. spic

Well, it's convenient for long term building and fixing. But failure is not allowed, as if you fail, you die.

>Remember /spa/?
I didn’t browse Yea Forums then, but I know we have lots of spics here anyway.

>I didn’t browse Yea Forums then
Still, spics have always been on Yea Forums mainly because of The Big Three in old times and DBS recently.

Dorohedoro, Blame! I'm sure there are others

>Her voice trembled with awe, “...The stone broke...”
>“You threw it hard. Really hard. And fast... Let's not forget how fast you-”
>“-You defeated the stone...” She mumbled.
>Even I stopped rolling about. What the hell is she talking about?
>“-I what?”
>“The stone and you met. And while you both fell, it is the stone that is broken. And you're not... On the first try too...”
Cultivation? In an harem isekai? More likely than you'd think.

that won't end well

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LN TL when?

So if I can't cook nobody would love me in isekai right?

youtube.com/watch?v=cjxZburc62w
Remember when Gacha didn't kill novels? I remember.

We might need to hope someone good licenses it. I wouldn't be surprised if the LN passes the WN and the WN gets officially stopped.

>author removed Slave from LN title
I expect nothing good from it and I would probably still be disappointed.

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Is it really hard for Japs to grab a Final Fantasy World like the ones on VII, VIII, XIII, XV, VI and just make an Isekai? Always getting DQ bullcrap

I assume it's mostly like the manga but without the sex scenes. They don't really get treated much like slaves anyway beyond fucking them until they like it.

Just make a Star Wars Isekai

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>fucking them until they like it.
But that's the core of the novel!

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If it's just a title change then it really doesn't matter much. The bigger problem would be that the WN/LN never spent enough time on that, although based on the WN I don't think Michioo's narration of how he did it would be very interesting to read.

Jedi were Samurai copypaste anyway
>narration
Do you want clams? Because that's how you get clams. The scenes that revolved around sex were better than scenes briefly describing sex itself, like when Michio got home earlier than rest of the party with Sherry that got wasted on Dwarf Killer and fucked her in dere mode, and latet felt guilty when Roxanne came home.

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I'd honestly watch that

The scenes around sex could have still been better. I certainly wouldn't want to read about Michio counting how many thrusts it takes in each girl and how it compares to the last time.

They're fine in WN though that's the best approach you should take in the novel. Nobody wants clams and 2 years worth of gulp except maybe for keks. Manga as a visual medium can obviously afford more.

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The manga could still get away with a little more than we see, but it is a better medium than the WN.

>a little more
I think it's perfect for SFW manga how do you expect "more" of it?

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Even within the manga, we have seen some things only in Michio's imagination but not with Roxanne. Maybe 2 days worth of glop when it shows Roxanne selling her body as an escaped slave, and prostitutes pulling their panties enough to hide very little. When he's having sex with her we see even less.

>see even less
Those are still hot scenes and I don't see any issue with them, as far as SFW serialized manga goes they can't really show anything "more".

>There's a reason why you don't hear of fortifications back then being taken out by a small group of guys

Small groups of sneaky guys can do a lot, though. Fortresses being taken because a bunch of guys climbed through badly designed building are things that happened.

Typically, the fortress of Chateau Gaillard, headquarter of Richard Lionheart, fell after the attacking force sneaked through the window of a chapel built by John (Richard's borther) as an addition to the castle. Seeing the place was lost, all the garrison locked themselves in the dungeon, and the siege could keep going on, but they were fucked at this point, so they eventually surrendered. There was 36 knights and 117 soldiers, and the siege caused the death of 4 knights.

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nips are all dragon questfags and drawing grassy fields or huts is easier than the intricate structures and nightlife you'd find in cyberpunk

>Why not something like futuristic cyberpunk
You don't understand the point of isekai do you? Why would anyone want to live in that shithole.

They never did, the author is just shit.
He hates his own series and will be ending it on vol 17, tossing out every plotpoint, players continents and the earth conspiracy.

>Want story about 13 Heroes? Just DYI
>mfw Maruyama was mino all along

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You can argue that the MC is being used by the dragon and the spider.

why does any of this shit need to be isekai just watch those genres

He can say no to them, and they are primarily interested in helping him. They do want to use him thoroughly, but are waiting for him to agree.

Postcoital consent is a thing.

Unfortunately he can prevent them from being successful. It's not at Death March's Satou levels of being alerted to danger, so they could have tried getting in bed with him while he slept, depending on how easily he wakes up. He may be somewhat resistant, but Tomoe could still try to make him think he's dreaming and make him more willing.

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They just have to start being assertive I doubt any nip MC would refuse truly aggressive advances like you wake up to a blowjob tier of aggressive.

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This guy was completely 100% right.

>muh world building is complex shit
>uses plot and tropes as an example
Hello retard, isekai is easy to get world building since it automatically happens since they are in a new world and describe it.

Lord of The Mysteries, Star Opera, Skies Beyond, Sea of Babel - there is a lot of great stuff, just most of it is not translated.

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>new world and describe it.
>easy

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Did someone write Dishonored?

>easy to get world building
Building a proper world isn't going to be easier just because you can dumb it with lots of exposition.

More like Cthulhu Mythos + SCP set in Victorian era steampunk.

Coiling Dragon is a good starter. People on Yea Forums hate. Chinese lightnovels (personal preference but some might say KR is better) > Korean lightnovels >>> Garbage juice >>>>>>>> Japanese lighntovels

Even if they did, it would be better to see it fail than never be attempted at all. If it happened to Makoto, maybe they could at least start by making him think it was a dream until he gets used to the idea. Or if he doesn't want to participate, then he could at least enjoy a nice view instead of rejecting it. If Satou woke up to that, maybe he would have been less likely to question it too until it was too late.

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Source on that image please?

There are few modern titles that stand out when it comes to settings. Nectar of Dharami is pretty much a fantasy setting that is at the very beginning of the industrial era.

You know? This is getting really bothersome. GS is not isekai since it has no dimensional traveling between worlds. And no, goblins coming from the moon also doesn't count as this. And no, the word isekai is always connected with traveling to another world. And no, there is no such thing as native isekai and only retards fall for this meme.

Still not isekai, since it's the same world.

>no dimensional traveling between worlds
Hero literally planewalks into and out of the demon plane. However I'd agree that one doesn't really count either.

I do that every day when I wake up.

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that looks fun actually

>finally sees his dragon and spider as potential mates
>author drops the series
Not like this...

Is lord of mysteries any good?

He will return in 2 years.

>MC has to have something which gives him some "unique" advantage
The fuck. Why?

Yes.

No.

I still have some fear that his response to them won't be going for a harem, and possibly just one. I didn't expect the author to stop updating when I read that chapter.

>why?
Why not write about hardmode life most readers are craving to escape from? Are you retarded?

Maybe.

I don't know.

Can you repeat the question?

because Isekai is all manufactured garbage that tries to appeal to waifufags and fujos

>if you like isekai you're objectively waifufag and fujo
Wew lad you sure showed them!

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>of a chapel built by John
There is a reason why he was called John softsword.

Japanese people are very risk averse. It takes a real weirdo to dare be creative.

95% of isekai are shit
prove me wrong

If that was guaranteed it might be better than the current uncertainty.

In addition to what everyone else said, I think it's because cyberpunk shows tend to require a bit more thought into the plot because there's a lot more going on than in medieval settings. Or it's because the wealthy people who run media companies don't want to put out any cyberpunk material because it will draw attention to how close the current fucked up world is to the fantasy future fucked up world.

It's probably better for the japs because at least they have all the neon shit in tokyo. Elsewhere, it's all the tech, surveillance, and corporate rule but in the same grungy cities as 50 years ago.

insecure beta male needs to feel empowered by vidya mechanics, slave harems, cheats & knowledge of future tech in order to overcome being a retard bullied by his peers

So like 95% of everything else.

they listed normal mc.
also dungeon meshi isnt an isekai.

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>Tell me why DnD isn't set in a technological future
Because that's Shadowrun, Cyberpunk, etc.

DnD has assault rifles and is set in the MULTIVERSE.

Good, an mc should be above fucking used goods.

I need to write something, it's almost a a month since I did a chapter.
Help

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Dont do it user, it's not worth it.

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We have no evidence they are used goods, no matter how much they want to be.

dubs of truth

Holy shit the
>need directions? just buy a slave my dude
was updated

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Just be yourself ;^)

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Returning the slave to the slave trader doesn't sound like a very smart idea, although if a slave trader has many customers that end up dying it might be too suspicious.

>token pitybait waifu
Awww

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>file no longer exists

There’s a story out there about man from the future getting dumped in a medieval society, and goes to fight a monster that has been terrorizing the kingdom.

The man is a Space Marine and the monster is a Tyranid synapse beast.

>shoot to heal
Local robot goes on a shooting rampage in a cancer hospital

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Magical bullets are stupid

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That's just stray pod landing on backwards agricultural world.

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>reeee hands off my tendies!
Jesus Christ call god wrangler or something silly twat is going ballistic

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No buli the tiny hat aqua!

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>Sui got Water Element Blessing
Holy shit imagine the PEW PEW

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>moist nugget isekai
mkay

How about a cultivator MC from chink wuxia gets iseaki'd into a futuristic setting and BTFOs everyone with his chi skills?

>go outside
>see this
Last thoughts?

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Dragon Quest makes a fuck ton of money.

Oh Liam, you try and buy a rank and a beautifully busty girl but you end up receiving her undying love too.

It's not the same but Er Gen's newest novel is sci-fi meets xianxia. No idea if it's any good though cause Er Gen novels can be quite different from one another despite being in the same multiverse.

>Last thoughts?
no edgeworld isekai please

>Everyone said I looked pretty in your dress, now you'll have to wear it or people will think it suits me better, sister!

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Is that a novel title?

just aria posting

a 40k but with more sense

>the most powerful psyker
>complete resistance to the warp influence
you hate fun then
forget the above

>some obscure planet in the outer rim
either is a backwater shithole planet, a death one or isn't imperial at all
>is sXXI terra, but with lasers

Bump for 500 soon

Isekai archer

I read Shadow in the voice of Lelouch and Liam in the voice of Laharl

there's the first chapters of Kumo desu ga

pretty much until she upgrades to a decay spider

>to break your spirit you have to marry a rich, famous, athletic, intelligent, high-spec, handsome nobleman HAHAHAHA

and even then she'll still probably hate it due to the jelly

Nah, we just suck.

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>right wing guy complains about 1% and their grip on everything
>ok we'll just get the government to start regulating them
>right-wing guy: "NOOOOO MUH FREEDOMS!"
>makes grass-roots campaign to shit on it
>bill dies
>1% still has grip on everything
>right wing guy: "ha sure showed them commies now to complain about the 1% again"

companies only bend us over because we let them

Mushishi

Cyberpunk worlds are supposed to.

I was actually just thinking something similar to this - though more like the world of the covenant in Halo with it's cathedral-esque and glowy architecture, etc. You can have the aliens AND some human races. You could even have elves and shit.
In fact, imagine if they were competing with another civilisation which was an abomination, a bit like a mix of orcs, the bots in the matrix and perhaps even the flood from Halo.

Now that would be insane.

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why else would you watch it? the only other reason i can think of is pathetic escapism

I also think that chapel was a bit convenient.

>he hasn't watched inuyasha
you must be 18 to post on this board

>tfw not isekai'd to a fantasy universe with demon cat people and forced to party with something like pic
Why live?

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you got me thinking about a halo isekai.
its funny and terrifying at the same time.

>tfw a few places on asia reach a cyber like aesthetic but punk died
>tfw you never live in a cyberpunk world

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Nobody knows. Newspaper clipping shown for a second shows that people were freaking out about water disappearing before the wars and collapse.