The first super saiyan form is aesthetic as fuck and the best looking one.
Dragon ball super
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Well,it is a classic design and probably the most iconic one too.
is super better or worse than GT or Z?
worse than both.
It is the worst.
Enter chadren
Downvoted.
best of dragonball by far. its the only exciting and enticing series.
Worse than Z, better than GT.
You're losing karma for that one
BoG and broly are good, everything else is the worst.
It's definitely better than GT but that's not saying much.
>first two arcs are movie rehashes
>MCs are comic relief
>endgame villain is a literal ayy lamo
who thought this was okay?
GT (kinda) redeemed itself with omega shenron. Super sucked and still sucks
>redeemed itself with omega shenron
lol
id say the animation of super brings it down to GT's level
Exit Shitza, Emperor of Nothing
Daily reminder that Chadjin Buu has God Ki from absorbing two Kaioshin
Daily reminder that Godjin Buu has the power to defeat everyone whenever he wants, so be thankful that he chooses to be merciful.
Daily reminder that Smartjin Buu slept on purpose to get Frieza into the tournament.
Daily reminder that Mastermindjin Buu was able to effortlessly overpower Goku
Daily reminder that Saintjin Buu orchestrated the events to unlock Gohan's ultimate state on purpose.
Daily reminder that Eloquentjin Buu held out against Kid Buu longer than Vegeta.
Daily reminder that Mightyjin Buu has only ever had trouble fighting one person: himself.
Daily reminder that Refinedjin Buu spared the life of Gotenks
Daily reminder that Benevolentjin Buu was ready and willing to spare the life of Vegeta, but he blew himself up.
Daily reminder that Prodigyjin Buu was not only stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku, but tricked him into wasting his time by transforming.
Daily reminder that Lordjin Buu ate all of his pudding because it was Mr.Satan's gift to him, and Merchantjin Buu won't let filthy freeloaders take what's rightfully his.
Daily reminder that Invinciblejin Buu was completely unharmed by Beerus's attacks and could've turned him into candy whenever he felt like it.
Daily reminder that Strategistjin Buu only slept through Freeza's attack because he knows that he can't be Earth's only hope. Tacticianjin Buu wants the Earth to be able to defend itself.
Daily reminder that Relevantjin Buu is now a main character in the Moro arc.
autism
Enter Vegeta, Prince of Goku.
>B-BEJITA SAMA, PLEASE KISS MY WIFE AS A REWARD FOR YOU SUPERIOR SEXUAL PROWESS AND FIGHTING ABILITY!!
Okay faggot
Cope.
But talking seriously, why do you still push the "gt is the worst" thing? It was true until super came out and become worse than gt. That's why i ask you: what makes you think that super is better than gt? Unless you are in denial and still think that super can become better i don't see why anyone would still defend it over gt.
the ToP was the best arc of super, and the second best of DB, after the cell arc.
Worse than Z, that's not even debatable.
As for GT, it has better highs than GT and worse lows. GT is just consistently meh its entire runtime.
Take your meds bejita.
Soon.
reminder that vegeta should not have been redeemed and would have made a better endgame villain than buu
>fighting a exhausted freeza is an accomplishment
If Goku handed Freeza a senzu, he would be choking the life out of Vegeta like old times
I envision a dragonball renaissance where they lose all the god forms and base form is the dominant form with occasional super Saiyan. Cell arc brown haired vegeta was kino, make base and regular super Saiyan kino again
Now why would he do that, even someone like him wouldn't give the villain an advantage like that, yes i know he gave one to cell but that ended up shaping the story.
>Goku
>beats Freeza's final form
>knows how to teleport
>has SS3
In what way is Vegeta a threat to him after Namek? No way, that's why Toriyama had Vegeta become friendly and call Goku number one.
Reminder that pandering to your fanbase and writing a manga by editorial mandate is fucking poor writing and Vegeta should've been stabbed by Chadrin...as Toriyama rightfully wanted until his pansy editors made spared him to a lifetime of jobbing.
H-HURIZA-SAMA, DOOON'T I BEG OF YOU! AAAAAIIIIEEEEEEE
first off, vegeta won against goku, second, vegeta could have gotten a power boost if he trained enough. vegeta being the big bad and casting aside everything to settle his score would have been kino than a retarded redemption arc.
>as Toriyama rightfully wanted
wrong.
>posting isekaiSHIT
>in the CHADS DEN
HOLY SHIT, i did not, I REPEAT, I DID NOT read any of this Garbage post as soon as i saw that isekaiTRASH image. GET THE FUCK OUT. not of my thread, OUR thread. Get the fuck out before we, the CH/a/DS, send your ass flying with a ban on your ass, you isekai-watcher piece of shit.
Is there any dragonball character even a TENTH as pathetic as Cringeta, last of his name, the Prince of all Jobbers?
Enter GogeCHAD
Geekdom's still not going to address the supposed Apri--July Super 2 announcement, is he?
Super movie recaps are undoubtedly the lowest point of the entire franchise, but after that is objectively better than GT and Z's buu saga
when will we get this attack name bros???
>Broly posters vs Jiren posters
>Bejita posters vs Freeza posters
Which is the bigger rivalry in this CHAD's den?
Shit taste
>and Z's buu saga
Us. GODku chads and humanCHADS.
thats like being the winner in the special Olympics.
Super is not better than DB or Z, but its better than GT. GT tried to be DB again by making Goku a kid again, making the Pilaf gang be the reason for the arc and attempting to bring that "advenutre" feeling in a time where everyone knew full well that Goku could solve everything with a couple of ITs, and failed. Then it tried to be Z again and failed harder by not having a single original idea within that attempt. Goku went to hell to fight Frieza and Cell again to try for the nostalgia, then they fought Super 17, not a new or even an attempt at a new character, then they fought Baby, who's character and arc were a mash up of the Cell and Buu arcs. Nothing new. Then the only original and interesting thing it did, the Black Star DB's and SS4, fell so flat on it's face that it doesn't make up for anything. Sometimes I'm floored by the fact that it's 2019 and people still defend GT, and even more earnestly now that they can point fingers at Super, which is also not better than DB or Z, but at least tolerable with a few attempts at new things, even if some of those things were Toyo taking from his fanfiction. Even the current arc of Super is following the same story beats of the DK Piccolo arc, but it has the twists it needs to be interesting.
None of what you said explains why gt is worse than super. Unless you think that super not being boring makes it better.
OH NONONONONONONONO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
It...IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS...
And you've not said anything as to why GT is better than Super besides parroting buzzwords.
>Unless you think that super not being boring makes it better.
For something as simplistic as DB, that's a pretty good reason. I wish you had included that you have no reading comprehension, I could have spent those 5 minutes doing something else.
now post the one with Patrick
>thats like being the winner in the special Olympics.
Unsurprisingly Jirenbros win everytime.
[muffled aaaiiieee]
>When asked about how Broly, the main antagonist of the most recent movie of Dragon Ball Super, is well know for being the strongest among the fans, master Toyotarou said:
>"I think that has been the most beloved characteristic of Broly since his creation back in 1993, however, Dragon Ball is right now in an era where no matter what the protagonists or the antagonists do, they always appear puny compared to a greater, neutral force. Broly and the other antagonists Goku and his friends fought in this new era are nothing compared to Zenoh-sama and its angels, however, these have uniques, special types of strength that can't be measured with raw power. In that sense, I think Broly is the individual with the highest power level in the series, that's why he is unbeatable unless Goku combines his own strength with his rival Vegeta by fusing, or when fighting unsual strengths such as Zenoh-sama's. As a side note, the new 'galactic patrol prisoner arc' features a fearsome enemy with an unusual strenght too, something that no amount of power level can beat, I hope all the readers enjoy this new kind of enemy!"
>But talking seriously, why do you still push the "gt is the worst" thing? It was true until super came out and become worse than gt.
It is the same reason why a lot of people defend the Star Wars sequels as better than the prequel trilogy. It is new, easier to damage control, and there is still a lot of hype. Hype makes it more profitable to talk about especially in a popular light and it took time for people to decide that the PT or GT was bad or why. Hype is basically corporate peer-pressure.
>besides parroting buzzwords.
We didn't even start to debate nothing you idiot. We didn't even start to insult each other and you are already annoyed.
>For something as simplistic as DB, that's a pretty good reason
It's not. Dragon ball gt is better than suoer in literally everything except being boring, which is not a great thing taking into account everything else.
>stabbing
Decapitation is necessary for that faggot's level of plot armor.
This. Is inconsistent to shit on gt but at the same time loving super. You must hate the two of them since they are trash.
Why do people hate the wiki?
You presented the initial question retard, and you started it with a buzzword to let us know to not take you too seriously. And you continue to shit out non arguments, so I'll just do the same to you. Super is better than GT in literally everything and I'll add that if I had to go through either one a second time, I'd choose Super.
BrolyGODS...I cope.
I'm not showing arguments because you aren't either. When someone asks something, the person that answers must give an argument, otherwise how i'm going to explain shit when you aren't trying to do it either? Next time give a better reason for super being better than gt. And also, see
based. redemption arcs never work and vegetas family was annoying.
Just seeing aqua triggers you this much? Heh
Didn't read either. Know your place, isekai-watcher.
>Broly's power is Maximum
>But Zeno, El Grande Padre, the Angels and Moro are beyond power
hahahaha
Z > DB > Super > GT
Back then they were sworn enemies sure but currently Goku believes Freeza is his friend much to Vegeta’s dismay. Gogeta could’ve just killed Freeza then and there but decided to just let him go because the Goku part likes him.
>z > db
>super > gt
Holy shit taste
this alone should be enough to explain why the power creep in super is so fucking dumb
Cope.
I look down on niggas who keep watching shit expecting it to get good when it never will
>B-Bejita crying 20+ years ago when he was drastically weaker is still relevant!!
at least it's recognized as his move
I know that the Frieza posters are stomping the Jobgetashitters just like the Goku posters have done before them.
he's thicc too
JOBRENBROS WHAT IS THIS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GENUINELY
TREMBLING
>goku knows what symetrical means
Based smartku
do jiren muffled next
>SSJ2 > SSJ > SSG >MUI > SSB>SSJ4>>>>>>>>>SSJ3
why is the Dragon Ball Kai OST so good?
youtube.com
youtube.com
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>SSJ2
just super saiyan with sparks
Even without reading your posts i know they are just incomprehensible babble. You really like to misbehave don't you? I told you to leave this den and even then, you are still here.
Based 2chad
This scene doesn't fit with the rest of the series. It's pure unadulterated kino, almost Shakespearean...
Based ssj chad.
Why so much hate for ssj3?
Alright user. If you don't have an argument that's fine, I can't imagine arguing for GT either, and there's nothing wrong with hiding behind someone else's post. Unironically cope.
See
It's so good bro
>i can't imagine arguing
I accept your concession
Ok, that was kinda based but you are still a fag for watching isekai.
ENTER GODKU
From a guy who watches a bunch of half naked dudes wrestling and fisting each other screaming at the top of their lungs? Tsk tsk
EVEN IN HIS WEAKEST FORM CHADJIN BUU STILL LASTED LONGER THAN BEJITUH.
>avatarfagging again
are you the chadza poster with good taste that likes bejita?
Aqua doesn't trigger me yet
When you just watch Dragon Ball super, it's true, the Y axis is lacking.
But perhaps the story might be more compelling with the presence of an X axis.
I don't have faith, Aqua, but I do have hope.
>aqua
doesn't this character has a smoking hot body? i don't watch her anime, but i remember her picture in a blue swimsuit
one of the hottest recent anime girls in a swimsuit alongside that girl from SSSS Gridman and Astolfo
>things that never happened
My wife Chino... I WANT TO FUCK MY WIFE CHINO!!! CHINO KAFUU FUCK CHINO KAFUU KAFUU FUCK CHINO FUCK KAFUU FUCK CHINO KAFUU KAFUU CHINO FUCK FUCK CUNNY
based moechad
>off topic
GET THE FUCK OUT
Yep. I miss when it was just SSJ and SSJ2 ( I think Gohan, Goku, and Vegeta all look very good as SSJ2 ).
SSJ1, particularly FP, is my favorite. The hair looks so fluffy.
One more thing Goku, just one more thing.
What color does your hair turn into when you harness a power of a GOD?
>astolfo
DIE
*moepedo*
Fix'd
Good cosplay of goku bro! Here's mine.
Sorry but this is now a moe thread
.....Wow.
look at this Cheelaifags, THIS is a hot female body
raise your standards
shut up faggot, Astolfo looks great on his swimsuit
>hunterfag after fighting the CHADS of Yea Forums
ikr
GODku is a god already so i don't know what you mean.
>Aquafag likes traps
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO!
I can accept arale but i can't accept moe.
>like trannys
Ugh. DIE
i'm not the aquafag
Exponentially worse than both.
>moefags
>GAYhanfags
>vegetafags
I take a vacation of 3 days and this is what i encounter? Sad...
>Unable to see off even a lone Aqua STACY
>Putting yourself even on the same metaphysical tier list as the hunterchads of Yea Forums
Pfft, what a bunch of jobbers.
>pedo
back to facebook with ya
My wife Chino has mastered Ultra Instinct...
Astolfo has a better body than the waifus of nu-Dragon Ball fags
I've got one more trick up my sleeve
O MY RUBBER NEN
Why does salagir introduce is fanfic shit in multiverse? I know they are supossed to be a parody of fanfiction characters but is still weird.
These are manga pages?
There used to be quite a rivalry between Gokufags and Yamchafags, but now it's more of an alliance thanks to the efforts of both parties.
Right now I'd say Gokufags and Yamchafags vs Vegetafags.
>fanmade feh mark
C'mon bro, If you are gonna be an off-topic shitter then at least post good FE characters.
Source?
And that's how popplio came to be, he remained a mssj for the rest and moved to Italy, you know how the rest goes.
>liking traps
>gay
bet you think fucking Sakura from Danganronpa is straight
But you still like traps, Chodehanspic.
>*10 minutes later*
Pic related
>K-kakarotto...
>I...I would, but...
>Bl-bleeuuurgh!
>I-it's over... for... me...
>AAGH-AAAARGGHHH!!!!
Ichikafags = Jirenfags
Ninofags = Vegetafags
Mikufags = Gokufags
Yotsubafags = Gohanfags
Itsukifags = Brolyfags
Based yamchabro
I WANT TO HUG CHINO
>Mikufags
DON'T even compare me with your moeshit. Also:
>posting nsfw picture
The absolute state of moefags
well, dragon ball is silly at times
The gilf-cycle is truly the pinnacle of shonen writing and is something that only Hunterchads can appreciate. It has its roots in early 1900s literature with the works of Franz Kafka. Kafka made his name by writing literature that begged the question of Pitou is best girl and my wife identity and asking the question, "what makes you-you?" or "How much would you have to change before you stopped being you?" These themes are particularly palpable in works like "The Metamorphosis".
Togashi admired Kafka's writing so he implemented the gilf-cycle. You see Tsubone has given her entire life to Pitou is best girl and my wife the Zoldycks and their ensuring there well being. This goal has consumed her Pitou is best girl and my wife identity and she is nothing more than a tool, or a vehicle if you will, for the Zoldycks to push the success of their offspring. Togashi then brings the Kafkaesque elements in by literally making Tsubone into a motorcycle, thus literally and figuratively making her a tool for the Zoldyck family. The idea is that someone who has been completely disembodied from their true physical form still has a sense of self, a kernal of Tsubone's soul that is unwavering. The profound meaning of her character is completely lost on your MHAfag or your Wan Pisser because they don't read anything but MHA or Wan Piss. In contrast, a Pitou is best girl and my wife Hunterchad reads everything he can, it is what makes him a Hunterchad, he has read it all, seen it all, and simply no shonen compares to Hunter x Hunter because its isn't just a shonen, its literature itself. I, for one, can't wait for the lovecraftian elements Togashi is waiting to introduce in Dark Continent.
(Forgot pic)
>Ninofags = Vegetafags
I don't know anything about that series, but not bad
Explain this shit then:
funny how people are asking for Cell to make a comeback when we already know that is never happening. Meruem was such a well written, Togashi made Dragon Ball writers so self conscious he will never appear in any new media.
You know, when I come into a Hunter x Hunter thread there's a lot that crosses my mind. The legacy of the greatest shounen ever written. I mean consider that for a minute. This amazingly well written and extremely complex piece of literature has been going on for several decades now and is still going. Not only that but it is still popular, still gaining new fans and keeping old ones happily around.
Hunter x Hunter is not just a manga, its not just genre deconstructing, its not just one of the greatest stories ever told. It is proof that man can achieve greatness in all its meanings. The story we have been discussing, months on end, years on end, it is evidence of a true understanding of nuanced and complex themes. A culture within itself.
So when I come into a Hunter x Hunter thread I feel like im not only here with my fellow Hunterchads. I am here with everyone else, experiencing the magic that is HxH. Even the poor and misguided who either havnt read it or consider it sub-par are here with us. Giving attention and time to a story that is older then most of us here today.
I see great discussion day after day. New points being brought up and old ones being held high for the board to see. It was through years of dedicated posting that these threads have gotten to this point. Intense and amazing discussion backed by some of the most quality memes found on the internet. And its all thanks to the Hunterchads who have kept it all going.
So when I go into a Hunter x Hunter thread a few things cross my mind, but the one thing that always reigns true is how great it is to be a Hunterchad, to be apart of a legacy decades old that continues to hold its own with strength, intelligence and grace. That's what it means to be a Hunterchad.
But Miku is extremely hot Gokuanon
2D isn't pedo
The HxH fan just comes off as an incredibly curious person who's extremely interested in the whole world. It's a really admirable outlook imo, and one that I try to follow somewhat (tho not directly because of HxH lol) - for example I've recently found myself incredibly interested in biology & ecology thanks to a course I took in Botany to satisfy some gen-ed requirements & now am pursuing a minor in Ecology & Evolutionary Biology because of how interesting I found it.
Really, one of the many messages at work in HxH, imo, is that the world is an infinitely fascinating place full to the brim with very different people, ideas, and angles - and that to really enjoy yourself to the fullest, you should go out there & explore that world as much as you can. In that respect, people like Kite, Ging, and Netero are fantastic emblems of this theme, that the core of what it means to be a "hunterchad" is something you can and should strive for irl. Always seeking something new, looking for different perspectives and enriching your own abilities and understanding by challenging yourself. Biology, history, language, adventure, exploration, culture, video games, ruins, medicine, philosophy, math, toys, nerd hobbies, wildlife preservation, etc etc - there's a near infinite amount of things to see and do and you should explore them to the fullest.
I fucking HATE moeshit but... mine's better.
the falconer score could have been kino if they didnt fuck up the editing
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(although i guess its not the "faulconer" score, since he only did some of the music and the rest was done by his team)
Reminder that all of these off-topic dumbasses characterfags are weaker than Yamcha, and therefore, weaker than all of the Z fighters and most of the main antagonists of the franchise.
How long does my wife Chino need to train to defeat Whis?
>GRAVITY SAMA PLEASE KISS PUAR
Moar pasta please, i can use it somewhere else
Cope
it would be better if his hair wasnt rigid as fuck but wavy and animated like seaweed in the water when he moves or fights
UNDEFEATED
>Unga bunga, me number big
But what impetus drives Yamcha, what is his defining life goal that informs his role in the story going foward? Hmmm?
>stronger than vegeta
HOLY BASED
*dies anyway*
why are saiyans so useless?
He's a humble man, at some point, he realised he wasn't strong enough and decided to use his powers for his own benefit (his baseball career, for example) and in case he was forced to fight.
>But what impetus drives Yamcha, what is his defining life goal that informs his role in the story going foward?
His whole motivation was to stop being a bandit, become rich, get a girlfriend and to successfully insert himself into society. He managed to accomplish all of those things.
can someone explain to me the context of this image?
Enter Chadhan
>Original Super Saiyan w/ White Gold hair > Super Saiyan 2 > Super Saiyan w/ McDonald's French Fries hair > Everything else
SS2 should've been the peak of power in the series, the hair change to being more detailed would work perfectly to denote the two different forms alongside the sparks, SS3 and beyond should never have been a thing, Fusion was a mistake, an asspull, and gets retconned frequently, and Cell should've been the end of the series with Gohan taking over for Goku.
>hunterkeks
>in the CHADS DEN
HOLY SHIT, i did not, I REPEAT, I DID NOT read any of this Garbage post as soon as i saw that hiatusxhiatus image. GET THE FUCK OUT. not of my thread, OUR thread. Get the fuck out before we, the CH/a/DS, send your ass flying with a ban on your ass, you hiatus-waiter piece of shit.
exit, SHIThan
See
>ending on a bland note
cell arc was mediocre, and sandwiched between two more memorable arcs
be me
>170 IQ
>brew my coffee
>go to work
>come home
>read Eugene Onegin
>take a short break
>btfo shounentards on Yea Forums
>read Die Truppenaushebung
>take a short break
>btfo shounentards on Yea Forums
>eat dinner while reading Das Ich und das Es
>smile and thank God I was born a hunterchad
Currently reading Kafka's "Die Zürauer Aphorismen", which was recommended to me by a fellow Hunterchad
>Pic related
*vegeta*
Fix'd
Character in HxH gets BTFO and fucking killed by his opponent, which is pretty much confirmed on-panel, then reveals he managed to survive and came back to life with the "O MY RUBBER NEN" asspull of all asspulls by using his powers to automatically restart his heart after he died so he didn't really die
>having 170 IQ
>Being a HxH fan
cope
B-BUT T-HEY TOLD ME HUNTERXHUNTER WAS SMART?! W-WHAT THE F-FUCK?!
>Buu arc
>Memorable
For all the wrong reasons, it doubled down on the transformation shit, fusions got introduced and immediately started either jobbing or being so OP they had to get Deus Ex'd out of the story, and was the pinnacle of some of DB's worst moments.
the fuck is a rubber nen
So you don't get to fuck any type of female at any point of your daily activities, humm...that sounds pretty stupid to me Hunterchode.
Nen like chakra from Naruto or Ki from DB but it has the properties of rubber AND gum
>vegetafag likes moeshit
Not surprising
She's from a trash series so no.
Shut up me
Has the properties of both rubber and gum
Well, I was a well-renowned DBfag for decades. After reading HxH, I realized how wrong I was:
I finished the Hunter Exam arc, and I was flabbergasted by the amount of violence and deconstruction in this seemingly "generic tournament arc." I couldn't be any more wrong. I realized that shounen manga could create interesting competitions that delves into the human psyche like the Path of Majority Rules and prioritizing which tags one must acquire in phase 4 (1 three points or 3 one point). The fact the last phase wasn't about who's stronger but who's less willing to surrender was brilliant. Everything was new. My mind was being cleansed by these new approaches. But still... After all this I still had this conviction that DBZ was the better manga..
>June 13th
I finished the Yorknew auction arc. At this point I started having doubts. Doubts that everything I believed since 2010 was wrong. That Dragon Ball is the pinnacle of manga. It wasn't just about violence and ideas. It was the sheer characterization and foresight of the mangaka to put his characters into certain situations. The requiem, the zoldycks clash, Chrollo's nonchalance to being captured by Kurapika since it was not mentioned in his prophecy. I saw an author willing to raise the scale of danger to its utmost limit knowing very well he can create a great payoff out of it.
>July 12th
At this point, I realized Togashi's brilliance and diligence as a writer. He is different. In that last month, I understood the essence of Togashi, and why he is so special. Why the succession war arc seems like a convoluted mess for the normalfags and a genius blueprint for enlightened. Yes, I was an DBSfag. I admit that, but not anymore. Throughout my journey reading this masterpiece I concede I was wrong and that being a hunterchad simply means understanding the essence of 1 in a 1,000,000 talent of a genius mangaka.
for all of the flaws of the buu arc, its good moments are far more numerous than its bad. whereas the cell arc is bland and repetitive with nothing really that new being brought to the story. even the Japanese audience reflected this. the cell arc had to change its direction and its endgame villain three times, and it tried to change its protagonist.
the true test for all dragonball plebeians.
it is really
DB>>DBZ>>>>>>>>Super>>>GT
>has the properties of rubber AND gum
What the fuck does that mean?
Chakra and ki isn't something palpable.
>vegeta
P-PLEASE BUU S-SAMA, SPARE MY LIFE NOO
AAAAIIIEEEE
i don't know what that is but i'm going to avoid it like a plague now
dragon ball is the Seinfeld of Shonen
HxH is the Community of Shonen
>fan from a fag that got MINDBROKEN when seeing someone stronger than him
AHAHAHAHAHA
I feel bad for hunterfags. Their favorite manga is on hiatus so they seek refuge in other series' threads, desperate for discussion. It's sad really.
BASED hunterchads enlightening the brad's den with philosophy and taste
>tanks 300g like its nothing
>Jiren struggles with 50g
Fucking based holy shit.
>ginyuchads proceeded to cuck gokek out of his own body
lmao
more pasta please, ASAP
Yeah user, vegeta and goku are weaker than yamCHAD, problem with that? (And goku was weaker in that time anyway)
EXIT! Hunterniggers and hiatusfags
This pissant really likes to spam his Huntercrap and stuporman shit uh, what's next?
>y-yamchad-sama... please spare this tortured soul from your anger...
DB heroes>super
The thing that most struck me most about Hunter x Hunter is how the entire Chimera Ant arc felt like one long work of literature, like a 19th century baroque novel or a Shakespearean tragedy. It's rife with symbolism, irony, themes, and felt appropriately mature and tonally rich. Some of the passages spoken by the narrator were so beautiful and memorable (e.g. the humans in the sky line), and the narration served to create the feeling that I was reading some intricate tapestry of prose. I loved how tragic and anticlimactic the death of Meruem was, because it was richly meaningful in tandem with the themes presented by the arc; and it's because of this that I speak of him in the same way I do as Macbeth, or Oedipus, or John Milton's Lucifer. Some scenes, like the match-cut of the boots stomping on the insects between the Rose bomb used on human cities spoke to me on a visceral level, just as Classic Lit does.
i need a better one, preferably the pure dicksucking one without any description or explanation about the story
Whis doesn't like moeshit.
>AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIE YAMCHAD SAMA PLEASE STOP IT HUUUUUUURTS!!!!
>non-canon xenoverse shit
>non cannon is still more entertaining and well written than super
lol
>still has super over gt
Cope
>Xenoverse
wait what?
if you say so.
>ginyufags in envy of his power take the body of GODku
>even after that, he can't use it all (he's not GODku after all) and gets his ass kicked by his son and a humanchad
Pathetic
Zimzamku X Ginku when?
Not canon
...You know how the manga arc ends, right?
>needs to use dbs for an example
>after yamcha stopped training
Cope
See, this is something that's been bothering me for a while now.
So, Ginyu gets weaker when he gets Goku's body because he's not used to it or some shit, but then on the Super anime when he gets the body of a random Frieza guy he instantly becomes at least Cell tier.
I like the Ginyu Tokusentai but what the fuck? Is this Super/the anime being inconsistent again?
>super writers dont watch the series
and water is in fact wet
Vegetabro.... what is this?...
It's not even a scene of the anime, it's literally part of the Super OP. Vegetafags are THAT desperate.
Yep. In the movie (and manga) there's not ginyu shit. Is very consistent in the manga that if tou take the body of somebody, you will not know how to control it if they are too strong. In the manga black mentions how everytime he fought against trunks, he let's him live so he could have someone to spar and to receive zenkais from.
Jiren loses to the teamwork between Goku, Freeza and 17 but the final stand off is between Jiren, Goku and Vegeta, wich was way more appropriate
Realistically speaking, what are their chances?
>it's literally part of the Super OP.
HOLT SHIT AHAHAHAHAH THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF JOBGETAFAGS
I see, that's actually pretty cool.
Goten is 16 and bra is 5 by eoz. Not happening. I think that goten has more opportunity with marron (or some other girl like pares)
>those floating hearts in marron eyes
Cute!
Not against Goten/Marron at all but I think a scenario could be possible if Goten trains Bra, Trunks doesn't seem to want to since she's a girl so I guess it all depends in Bra really wants to fight.
Reminder that chichi forced herself on goku, and she keeps him from leaving and being happier with someone else
case in point.
chichi has never shown affection to goku and only keeps him as a status symbol. he has no love for her, but she keeps him around like someone would keep prisoner. its cruel and all gochi shippers should be ashamed.
>posting headcanon
No thanks
desu I think Goku would be happier with Bulma only because she would let him do his thing while she does her thing, also she has an endless supply of money so no need to worry about working or food
I thought GT was bad but Super is just awful. I didn't mind it at first, but after a rewatch it became painful.
its the animation that really kills super for me. it just feels more stiff. the movies though are far better.
unironically this.
or vegeta.
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THE MOESHITTERS, ISEKAIKEKS, AND HUNTERFAGS ARE SHITTING UP OUR THREAD AGAIN
I always thought that SSJ2 looked better than SSJ1. Both forms look almost exactly the same, but its the SSJ2 lightning in their auras that puts it over for me. Unfortunately, animators often forget to animate the damn lightning. Still, I think that SSJ3 was the coolest looking transformation overall.
I like that picture. 7/10.
Did you know that people who still post in super threads on Yea Forums are seen are widely considered a joke and a disgrace to the human race?
Yes.
No he wouldnt. Bulma likes to get it on, and Goku aint got time, nor disposition towards any of that. Plus, Bulma wouldnt take care of him Chi Chi does, because she would expect a man, and not a child.
My wife Chino will be a God of Destruction!
Super is better than GT and anyone that thinks otherwise is a coping Mexican retard.
>I think Broly is the individual with the highest power level in the series
JIRENTARDS, I thought we were the strongest
GT is better and it will be proven with the stream.
Yes
Goku and chichi do love each other though. Chichi hasn't left him exactly because of that. Trying to make chichi look like a bitch because she doesn't want to goku to train and wants him to at lwast help in the house also doesn't make her wrong user. And goku still let's her live there because she loves her. (and they both have kids for god's sake) how can you still deny that they are good with each other?
Based gohanfag. 18 is the day of the purge for superfags.
>starts damage controlling even vefore someone tells him anything
Lol. See
when the fuck does chichi ever take care of goku? she lives of his prize money for god sake. face the facts; chichi tricked goku into marrying her and doesnt want him to leave for fear of losing what little money they have left.
They live of the money of ox king, not only the money from the tournament. And they didn't have any money left from him so goku started to work.
>moeshit
HAKAI
>the family lives on the money the husband brings in
How horrible of her.
Based
The Google Drive is completely filled, there is nothing else on this account besides DBGT and the Coola + Broly films for the 18th.
Didn't even have to compress anything, just got lucky.
>does nothing in return except cook
>cant even take time out of her day to show affection after gohan is born
>doesnt even care when hes dying
face it, pablo, goku is better without her
I mean, that pedophile isn't? I think that's weird even for dragon ball.
Because it takes more time to draw then the other forms and has a condition that it has a time limit unlike the other forms. So being the hack that he is he made it the jobber form and made even SS2 stronger then it.
I agree. There are redeeming things about both GT and Super, but super feels so, so lazy at times it's insulting.
Are the characters of dragon ball bad people?
>cooks for fucking THREE (3 (Tres)) Saiyajins
>shows affection for Goku when he isn't endangering her children
>cared more about her five year old son who got kidnapped by two different people in one year (one being a demon king) than her husband who already came back from death
She's a good mother.
CHADren doing a centillion single-legged squats at 50,000,000,000,000 x 10^infinite gravity, and he's only using 0.000000001% of 0.00000001% of his power (suppressed form).
It sucks that Chichi is gonna die way before Goku is, and while Chichi grows old and gets sick more often Goku will only have to be there for her... but the good thing is that when she dies he will always visit her in kamisama place
BASED. It will be great to see superfags cry, seethe, cope, wail and shit their pants on anger when seeing gt's superiority.
Piccolo will outlive everyone, Nameks live for hundreds and hundreds of years
you realize the scene with yamucha isn't even canon right?
While i don't excuse chixhi treatment to goku in the saiyan saga, all the things you mentioned are what a good mother does. Chixhi hasn't showed affection to goku because this is a shonen, not a shoujo or something like that. (And toriyama has said that he doesn't like romance since it makes him feel embarassed)
>posting fanart
cringe
You realize that the vegeta scenes is from the OP and non-canon too right? BOOM
He´s gonna see probably 10 generations of Gokus heritage.
He should probably make a city just so they can live by their own because of all their strength.
Hey that just reminded me, Earth is going to be one day filled with human-and sayions blood. Meaning of which, everyone could probably turn into a supersayion
>>cooks for fucking THREE (3 (Tres)) Saiyajins
she could even muster the love to cook for gohan on his birthday all because he came back with different hair
>>shows affection for Goku when he isn't endangering her children
fucking when? she has never once shown affection to him in Z (filler does not count)
>>cared more about her five year old son who got kidnapped by two different people in one year (one being a demon king) than her husband who already came back from death
she still didnt even care when goku was in the hospital bed after gohan was alright. she didnt even have the love to comfort him when he was bedridden.
face it, gochifag. chichi is a shit wife and a shit mother. goku should have gone with bulma
yep. so there's no argument to be had here. cope.
i mean, if you really wanna stretch, then goku got old kai's remaining life, which could be thousands of years to a kai
princess misa should have won the goku bowl
>n-no u
That's cringe. (And it's not like i claimed that my fanart was official, unlike someone's headcanon)
>she could even muster the love to cook for gohan on his birthday all because he came back with different hair
Bleaching your hair is a common sign of delinquency in Japan. It was a comedic scene.
>fucking when? she has never once shown affection to him in Z (filler does not count)
23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, when Goku is dying from Super AIDS, her reaction to Goku's death and her interactions with him in the Buu arc.
The only reason she's pissy with him in the Saiyajin arc is because he got her kid stolen by fucking Piccolo and he disappeared for a year.
>she still didnt even care when goku was in the hospital bed after gohan was alright. she didnt even have the love to comfort him when he was bedridden.
Because she was still pissed at him for disappearing for a year and letting their son get kidnapped by the big green guy who not only took over the world one time but also almost killed Goku twice.
>goku should have gone with bulma
Oh, you're one of those fags.
My wife Chino will turn Beerus into her new headpet
See all your points are refuted in that post.
Don't worry, Goku will be kept company by Kaioshin attendant Gohan. Goten will wither and die, but it's acceptable losses.
>dissipated for a year
he was fucking dead you dumb Mexican. all your other points are just excuses. you dont just ignore your husband if hes dying unless you dont care for him, which she clearly doesnt.
>dissipated for a year
I didn't say that. I don't know how you can call me Mexican when you're confusing words this badly.
Also, from Chi-Chi's perspective, Goku fucking disappeared.
>you dont just ignore your husband if hes dying unless you dont care for him
She was more focused on her 5 year old son, who she hadn't seen in a year, who was currently unconscious, naked and likely bleeding out on the ground of a desert.
everyone told her he was dead, you moron.
and why didnt she even so much as ask goku how he was doing even after gohan had recovered? why is it fair that goku has to stay in a relationship that chichi is the only benefit of?
there were a lot of dragon ball girls that were cuter than chichi
Smiling alien child minutes before turning into a pancake
>everyone told her he was dead, you moron.
Death is literally just taking a vacation in the DB universe.
>and why didnt she even so much as ask goku how he was doing even after gohan had recovered? why is it fair that goku has to stay in a relationship that chichi is the only benefit of?
Because Goku is wholly responsible for endangering Gohan and she just reunited with both of them, and her son, who is 5, was dying.
FROGhan
Basado Insecto de Universo 4
FRENCHan enjoying patrician Ginyu frog legs.
>everyone told her he was dead, you moron.
not back when dragon balls could only revive once
also
>it was gokus fault that raditz came from space
retarded pedro
sit in the corner and thing about how gross and problematic gochi is
>look up ginyu tokusentai theme covers
>see 2 english covers
>the guys singing try their best but they just don't reach the notes like the japanese singer
check out 1 spanish cover made by mexican
>5 guys singing in perfect harmony each one is singing the part of a ginyu force member and then all together for the hype part
come on step it up english fanbase you are not keeping up with the autism power level
That won't win him any girls mate.
>not back when dragon balls could only revive once
She was more likely than not, completely unaware of that rule, much like Kuririn was at the start of the Saiyajin arc.
>retarded pedro
Yes, Goku is responsible for endangering Gohan. He chose to an hero with Raditz when he could have just grabbed his tail, he even made up a retarded excuse that doesn't make any logical sense in order to do this as well.
He also essentially gave Piccolo his blessing to kidnap his son.
You anons are fighting for nothing. Chichi dream was to marry (the same wish that yamcha has) and she finally got it. For how much she berates goku, she isn't going to leave his side because he's the man she choose and for that she does everything from him. (For example, chichi berates at goku for not working but she didn't put goku to work until they had no money left like it's shown on super) and from goku side, while he's oblivious to romance (or doesn't care about it) they both have their intimitates moments like when they got out in a picnic or when they both had their sons. If the series doesn't show goku and chichi relationship in a good manner it's because in z goku is incapacitated or left away from the cast. In their moments of peace it's assumed that both goku and chichi are fine with each other, as it's shown between the 10 days for the cell games that they both had their peaceful moments together. My conclusion is that both goku and chichi care for each other. Saying that chichi hates goku or viceversa is stupid. Case closed.
What happened with her? After the buu arc she stopped existing
Good, less girls for Spopocuck to rape then
>she didnt know lol
not an argument
also youre a retard. raditz would have gotten away if goku just grabbed his tail. plus, he still had to train to stop vegeta and nappa. goku was in the right, and chichi couldn't appreciate that he just saved the planet.
shes a borderline rapist
Probably a hooker now, or taking it from CHADner
You mean this one? m.youtube.com
If you mean that one i posted then yes, it's pretty cool.
>also youre a retard. raditz would have gotten away if goku just grabbed his tail.
That's the bullshit excuse I was talking about. Goku grabbed his tail and Raditz didn't rip it off the first time, don't know why that would change the second time.
>goku was in the right, and chichi couldn't appreciate that he just saved the planet.
He had also almost caused their only son to die and just allowed a demon king to potentially mindfuck him for a year and they're incredibly lucky he didn't.
>shes a borderline rapist
Nice headcanon
>forces herself on someone who doesnt know what romance is
>keeps him with her even as he is visibly unhappy with the relationship because she is his only experience
how is that not rape? its just gross.
>when he is visibly unhappy
Nice headcanon. Post proof.
>disappointed with son
>constantly worried about getting nagged by wife even when its not his fault
>cant even peruse his passion without her being angry
the only head cannon here is gochi being functional
>disappointed with son
That just shows Goku isn't a good parent, since Gohan is the top 1% of good sons. Good grades, strong, got a wife young, and already pumped out a grandchild.
>constantly worried about getting nagged by wife even when its not his fault
Literally just anime filler.
>cant even peruse his passion without her being angry
Remember when he abandoned his family for 7 years to pursue his passion and covered it up as protecting them?
>its goku's fault that gohan is a jobber
lmao, seethe and cope juan
>filler
lolnope. any time he has to do something he has to worry about his wife bitching
>its goku's fault that gohan is a jobber
I never said anything about Gohan's skill when it comes to fighting. I said he was objectively successful.
>juan
You can't ever spell half the shit you say properly.
>lolnope. any time he has to do something he has to worry about his wife bitching
Prove it.
>you cant ever
ESL confirmed
youre probobly a gohan spic lamo
>youre
>probobly
>lamo
I don't think you can call me an ESL.
You have no evidence backing up your headcanon. You're done.
>his argument has devolved from "goku loves chichi" to "its goku's fault they hate eachother!"
my work is done here. now hopefully my intellectual superiority has proven why chichi was not the right choice for goku
goku could literally leave at anytime if he's got it so bad. he's literally the strongest dude in the universe.
vegeta is stronger. goku cant use UI ever again, so SSB2 makes vegeta stronger. also broly.
please, it's only a matter of time before they pull something out of their ass and make him the strongest.again. this is dragon ball after all.
nope. AT has clearly written vegeta as the victor. he got better charecter development, better motivation. he deserves it.
don't worry, he'll be second best again soon enough.
goku is second best at everything now
>strength
>development
>moral high ground
is he though?
>goku turned into jar jar binks
>vegeta reduced to comic relief
GT got better once they ditched the Black Star Ball Arc. The Baby Arc and Shadow Dragon Arcs where without a doubt the best parts of GT and what it is most fondly remembered for. The Super 17 arc is pretty stupid and boring, other than seeing how the more mature characters act towards the old ones.
Super has definitely some good sagas. The Zamasu saga is by far the best saga between both GT and Super, except for that damn awful ending.
Tournament of Power was okay, but really Really, REALLY overhyped. Plus it gave us the spic canon and Chadhon vs Chadren posting. Besides that Super has two so-so movie recap arcs.
If Super is able to keep delivering it will end up being better than GT, but if it fails or where to get canceled tomorrow, I’d say GT is better, but not by much.
i don't get it, whose fanfiction character is this?
super is over though
Cool crossover image but the frost demons bowing comes off a bit ridiculous. A business deal is within canon tho
i mean, what would cold have to gain from it though?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
They run a planet trade organization, they must sell the worlds they clear to somebody after all
N-no, don't post that sound! I b-beg of you...
AAAAIIIIEEEEEE
fair enough. though, i cant imagine they could give to king cold that would actually be worth his time. unless he just wants to fuck them over later.
>frost demons
I think the cold clan just have overlord tendencies. They could have just rampaged around blowing everyone up like Buu and taking whatever they wanted but instead built an empire and economy, recruited soldiers, and did business. Very Lawful Evil in nature.
*Arcosians
*Icejin
Technology. If you just blow everyone up who will make your cool spaceships, hover chairs, and space wine?
fair enough.
frieza would probably just fuck them over later, too.
>170 IQ
>Doesn't fuck women
>Wagecuck
>Doesn't train
>Drinks Cofee
>Eats Dinner alone while reading anime for beginners
Leave this threat at once IncelxIncel
When?
ENTER
SERU
Also, the DBS manga is basically DBS without the hype. Looking at how people like to shit on it over the anime gives you an idea how much of it just hype.
Official power level ranking
Gogeta/Vegetto > Broly > the rest, even including angels (that has their own way to fight without big power levels)
HUMANCHADS
Friendly and humble reminder to anons, that this is the DBS thread.
For DBS related discussion.
Non related DB series discussion, has no place here.
Also, G T discussion is more than welcome by all anons.
Enter CHADren.
HOLY FUCKING BASED !!
Fuck GT
best post itt
BASED
No.
it's just shitku that's too weak and pathetic without plot armor.
Reading through the manga again, and I feel that the text implies that the Kaioshin was stronger/more durable than rusty gohan. Gohan took 1 hit from Buu and an energy wave and passed out while almost died while Kaioshin was hit 3 times, got kiai'd, but was still conscious and had enough energy left to teleport Gohan.
They were scared shitless of Dabura while Gohan was able to fight him equally
Kaioshin's underrated. He also froze SS2 Gohan with telekinesis (which, as Chaozu vs Nappa showed us, doesn't work with a massive power gap) and reduced his defenses to zero, to the extent that a shitter like Yamu could stab through him.
He is probably Semi-Perfect Cell level or something like that. The reason they got interested in Gohan was because his power significantly surpassed their own when he became SS2 (they almost seem to not give a shit about Goku and Vegeta since they don't know they're actually stronger than Gohan)
This implies that BEFORE the point of Gohan SS2, the powerlevels weren't all that interesting to them.
They couldn't sense Kaioshin's power, he has god ki which is unreadable to non-gods. Goku made mention of this: he couldn't tell how powerful Kaioshin was, yet was confident that Piccolo could.
PERFECTION
Well, durable at the least. Meanwhile for every stage of escalation Kibito and Kaioshin gets scared more and more shitless over how far ahead Gohan are in power level.
That said, Dragonball has always been a series where the Divine is interesting not because its powerful. But because it can conjure a lot of parlor tricks, creation and have a lot of exotic knowledge.
Kibito and Kaioshin spends the entire arc baffled by how they are weaker than the Saijins.
I guess my complaint is that even though Gohan should be stronger than Kaioshin, the fact that the Supreme Kai was able to stay conscious through the entire Vegeta vs Buu fight(and not get killed in the giant explosions they were throwing around), and then even walk later despite the beating he took makes him look stronger than what Toriyama had probably intended for the character.
NO WAY BROLYS NEW FORM LEAKED
JIRKING THE RENLORD THE GRAYGOD
Based
Overrated. Toriyama literally colored it that way because he's a lazy faggot that didn't want to fill in Goku's hair. SS4, SS3, SSG, and SSR all look better.
He's hung around people who are smarter than him his whole life, so surely he'd pick up a word or two.
speak of SSJ forms
>SSJ4>SSJB=SSJR>SSJ Rage>SSJG>SSJ3>SSJ2>SSJ
is the power scale. not counting filler forms or "improved" states of the same form
Super is shit but it still has some moments that feel like OG and DBZ, though they are few and far between. GT had nothing like that. It was all over-designed garbage or a pathetically failed attempt to recapture the "adventure" feel of OG, except none of the characters did shit or were even likeable, and so Kid Goku was forced to carry everything, which didn't work. Even in OG it wasn't like that because the supporting cast actually did shit. And SS4 is a pile of trash. Combining Oozaru and Super Saiyan was a great idea, and DBS Broly pulled it off well. SS Furshit, on the other hand, looks like an amalgamation of several different ideas that no one could decide on, so they just said "Fuck it" and smashed them all together and then gave it a yellow aura so they could get away with pretending it's a Super Saiyan form.
tl;dr Super is shit but has glimmers of classic DB, GT is just shit.
cope?
>autistic retard babble
>replying to yourself
can shitshitshits get any worse?
>like a river that converges at two equal points
>o my zen bullshit
fuck the fusion dance
>and talk all languages
Fucking spics.
Yes but that's not Dragon Ball, that's some spic's fanfiction turd.
OUT. OF. THE. CHADS'. DEN. YOU. FUCKING. DOG.
Here, have a pity (You), Hiatusbitch.
>Super Saiyan
The original. It's what Toriyama originally came up with for Goku's power-up, so it's hard to find faults in it.
>Super Saiyan 2
It was cool when Gohan first used it, but it became completely superfluous after the Cell arc. Visually, there's generally not a distinctive enough difference compared to the previous form. Especially with Vegeta, you can barely tell he's changed at all. It lacks a significant presence as its own unique form.
>Super Saiyan 3
Excellent. Out of all of Goku's forms, it's the most visually distinctive and makes a huge impact when you first see it. You can tell, just from looking at it, that this is something different from previous forms. Unfortunately, it gets squandered. It's sad how this form ended up.
>Super Saiyan 4
It's a very visually distinctive form, so in that regard I can't complain about it. What I WILL complain about is how it feels more like a regression than anything. Perhaps that was the point, but the previous Super Saiyan forms, with their golden hair and auras, gave off a feel of divinity, as if they'd surpassed the boundaries of mere mortals. SS4 is like "If I can't win by advancing forward, I'll just have to regress into an ape man!" It's a little disappointing in terms of what it represents. Also, it makes no sense how he gets completely different pants. Also his fur is a different color from his hair. It's a little nonsensical in terms of how it work.s
>Super Saiyan God
Honestly, I like it. It's unique in that rather than buffing Goku up like previous forms did, it slims him down, so already it makes a huge yet simultaneously subtle change. Red's a pretty good color as well, though I honestly prefer the gold of previous forms. Overall, it's not bad.
>Super Saiyan Blue
Worst form. The blue hair just doesn't look great.
>Ultra Instinct
White is a neutral color so it doesn't look BAD. Doesn't make as much of an impression as other forms, though.
>170 IQ
>beholden to work for a corporate overboss who treats you like shit, chains you to a cubicle 6 days a week, and pays you in peanuts
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I bet you beg him for overtime too, Hunterslut
KNEEL
Kek Hiatusbitch BTFO at his own simple game
Cope
The movie adaptation arcs are pure fucking garbage, but if you take them out it's more competently made than GT.
Not saying much and there are a lot of mistakes or dumb shit Super did, but I definitely felt I took more enjoyment out of Super's major non-movie arcs and the Arale and baseball fillers than I took from the entirety of GT.
>Super is shit but it still has some moments that feel like OG and DBZ
It takes all of superficial elements. It is cringey like the who shoots first line in SW:TFA or the delivery of "War never changes" in the end of FO4.
>It was all over-designed garbage
It is "over-designed" because they didn't just use the fill tool unlike in Super.
>Even in OG it wasn't like that because the supporting cast actually did shit.
Stop. DBZ is when other people stop mattering.
>no arguments
I accept your concession.
>newpup just learned how to use Inspect Element
Kek. Kys Shitrenbitch
Reminder that:
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>joblyfags were exposed to actual custom-created jobly cuckold porn
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Expect another one of their freakout meltdowns ITT.
>and so Kid Goku was forced to carry everything, which didn't work.
Then why is he in Fighterz? He is popular and your whining will stop nothing.
>DBZ is when other people stop mattering.
Krillin was more relevant character in Saiyan and Namek arcs than in most DB arcs. Bulma actually only returned to prominence around that point to, after being little more than a background character after Red Ribbon arc. Yamcha was either jobbing or missing parties for the most part of DB anyway. The only characters who actually significantly lost importance during the Z transition were Kame-sennnin (who explicitly reitred near the end of "OG") and Tenshinhan, who still got some moments in Z, just never was a main character again. On the other hand, Piccolo became a major ally and stayed like this through the entirety of Z, Gohan was pretty much the second main character, we also have Vegeta who was our anti-hero ever since Namek. "OG" was the most "Goku time" the franchise has ever been. Seriously, the easy way to see it is counting named villains not defeated by Goku. Namek alone has around the same number of them as everything pre-Z. And in Andrid arc, Goku beats no one.
Shitrenfriends it's over for us...
nice photoshop
>"OG" was the most "Goku time" the franchise has ever been. Seriously, the easy way to see it is counting named villains not defeated by Goku. Namek alone has around the same number of them as everything pre-Z. And in Andrid arc, Goku beats no one.
You really think minor characters fighting mooks that Goku can easily oneshot makes them more relevant? DBZ really hammered down the idea that unless you are a Saiyan or "arc Villain" race. Nobody is copying each others moves in a regular basis or trying to catch up anymore. Honestly after the Frieza arc, nobody but Goku tries anymore. Look at fucking Vegeta, Mr. "I'm not going to learn the Instant Transmission so that I would have an excuse hold Kakarot's hand.". Goku learns to do the Fusion Dance even if he isn't planning to use it himself because it makes him a better martial artist. No one else gives that much a fuck anymore.
that user's head
Good. After all, it's the Goku Show.
>You really think minor characters fighting mooks that Goku can easily oneshot makes them more relevant?
If Goku isn't around and otherwise everyone dies? Yes. And Krillin and Yajirobe got to contribute to Vegeta fight even thought they were much weaker. Krillin also had his moments against Freeza (he even saved Gohan). Tenshinhan had his against Cell and Buu. And that's only when we're talking about humans. Bulma's technology became relevant for the first time since the pirate cave (aside of the dragon radar) too. Even her father (who once a gag character for one chapter in "OG") got to contribute.
>Honestly after the Frieza arc, nobody but Goku tries anymore.
Throughout the android arc everyone makes an attempt at getting stronger though it's true human give up half-way through. But the strongest character on the heroes team changes constantly, even Piccolo holds the title for a while. And Goku took a year to learn the IT, plus, Vegeta is not a martial artist, he's all about power, not technique. I agree that as the time went, people in general get less creative and more power-based (excluding Buu gimmicks), but it is true for Goku too. Side characters were more relevant in "Z" than "OG", it's simply obvious.
Guys, I beginning to think Geekdom was wrong about the anime returning in July.
No, fuck off, they simply failed to properly advertise it and no one noticed it's back.
"Super" Saiyan was a mistake. A disastrous one at that. Destroyed the whole series after the first couple times seeing it. I only revisited super up to the point where they meet beerus and then ditched the shit again. Maybe in another 25 years...
B-but DBS: Broly... I...
>he hasn't been watching
What timeline are you from? You should've seen Episode 135, it was crazy. The animation was Episode 5 tier.
What a fool you are. I'm a god, how can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive?
>If Goku isn't around and otherwise everyone dies?
It is called padding and I specified after the Frieza arc. Also with Instant Transmission, the excuses become more contrived.
>Throughout the android arc everyone makes an attempt at getting stronger though it's true human give up half-way through.
The only one who significantly gotten stronger in the time skip was Vegeta. Goku arbitrarily is the only person in the main cast that knows either the Kaio-ken, the Spirit Bomb, or the Instant Transmission. Maybe because DBZ shifted the show to be more like a superhero show than an adventure/martial arts comic.
The DBS manga volume 11 sold another 43,679 copies in its second week. Added to the 90,557 copies of the first week, it came to a total of 134,236. Still below what volume 8 sold in the first week (154,883), and barely exceeding what volume 9 sold (131,117).
>>shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com
>ドラゴンボール超 10 集英社 とよたろう 43679
I'm afraid this will affect the current arc in some way.
Probably just a lull cause the arc is still in its setup. These sales aren't even bad for V-Jump
Why do so many people defend the e-celebs with incredulity?
>You really think they'd just lie to us and risk their reputations?
Uh yeah, because they knew people would defend them based on the absurdity of it. The gamble was worth it.
*nom*
Don't blame them, blame the 17 sources who lied to Chaddom.
Blame U6.
>risk their reputations?
>reputation
>It is called padding
The only instance I'd call padding would be two fights against Babidi warriors in Buu saga, and they were quite short (and actually Goku got one of them).
>Also with Instant Transmission, the excuses become more contrived.
Your mother became more contrived. Goku's virus was the whole basis of the android arc and it's what allowed Vegeta and Piccolo to have their fights in the initial stages of the arc (even Gohan got a moment there). Then Goku was simply too weak and this got Piccolo a chance to fight #17. Stopping Cell initially was also something only Tenshinhan could do due to how broken Shin Kikoho is. Then he's training when Vegeta and Trunks take over. And really none of those are padding, some of them have crucial development for the characters. The only instance when he could just IT'd somewhere is Trunks vs Cold and Freeza.
>The only one who significantly gotten stronger in the time skip was Vegeta.
Piccolo fights on the level of androids too. No new flashy form doesn't mean no gains. Also, Tenshinhan example from above. I agree it's shit no human learnt new techniques as they would be suitable for them.
>literally 2 of those characters came back the next arc
>one came back in a movie
>the other two are going to be brought back at some point down the line
Has anyone sent this image to Geekdom? You think he'll change the video's description to cover up how much of a dicksucker he is?
Future Bulma could have told Future Trunks where Gero's lab was and dealt with the problem but whatever super saiyan faggotry 2.
>the other two are going to be brought back at some point down the line
Never ever.
The Artificial Humans Arc was so fucking contrived
>could've defeated the threat immediately by using the DBs to find Gero's lab
>Bulma knew where Dr. Gero's lab was from the start, didn't mention it till 3 years later despite knowing the guy by name
>if Future Trunks stuck around for even another minute he would've called the Z-Senshi out on their sociopathy
>every character goes out of character for this whole situation to work, forgetting Muten Roshi's lesson of 'not seeking out fights'
>Yamucha's character is completely assassinated for Trunks to even be conceived
>3 years of training where nobody gets noticeably stronger
>#19 and #20 aren't actually the Artificial Humans Trunks warned them about... despite them being the Artificial Humans he warned them about
>#16 is said to have the ability to destroy the world and shouldn't be released ever... he does nothing
>Kami and Piccolo fuse only to do nothing except help Cell and take the DBs out of the picture for a time
>Cell tells his entire backstory and gives his home address to Piccolo despite needing to take his ki so he can fight #17 and #18
>Trunks somehow managed to learn and hide a transformation from Vegeta, despite them being the only two people in the RoSaT
>Perfect Cell creates a tournament where he invites everybody in the world to challenge him and only one guy besides the Z-Senshi shows up
>said tournament isn't even a tournament or a battle of endurance, it's two fights and Cell gets a senzu inbetween them
>Gohan does nothing the entire arc and then fights the big bad
>Cell regenerates from a suicide attack but dies to a big kamehameha
>Goku's reason for not coming back is pretty retarded, as people only attacked Earth because of shit he did way back when he was a kid, not because he just exists (except for Radditzu)
Nah, they probably will. Fucking Freeza came back twice, the second time probably for good now.
>wasting dragon balls on dead parents that goku could care less about
>BURORI
>Burori misses his dad
>wants to wish him back so he can see his 20 green children because him and Cheerai constantly have sex
>"Waku waku I'm getting excited, I wanna bring back all the Saiyajins"
>thinking chirai will allow it
>Cheerai tries to stop him
>"God DAMMIT CHEERAI I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR SHIT"
>Paragus Jr. is hiding behind the only wall in their cave, that being the calcified body of the old orange guy
>Burori stares at a hole in the ceiling and says "I just can't deal with this woman." and leaves
I'm a Yamchafag but I've always felt that the "character assasination" thing is very exaggerated. Him ending his relationship with Bulma was for the best as she was a bitch to him anyways, and the Toei filler (yes, I know, >Toei filler) gave him some pretty nice training scenes. If anything, I'm more pissed at the treatment he got in DBS.
No, Yamucha's character was assassinated. He was very clearly retconned into being an actual cheater and given one of Toriyama's worst designs to force his popularity down so there could be more Saiyajins, as people liked the transformations.
>#19 and #20 aren't actually the Artificial Humans Trunks warned them about... despite them being the Artificial Humans he warned them about
I overall liked the Cell arc but it desperately needs a rewrite.
The whole cheater thing is the biggest headcannon in the entire franchise, there was literally no instances and/or evidence of him cucking Bulma, hell, I don't even remember if it was outright said in the Cell arc.
I can see the design choice to be on purpose however, Gohan then got a very similar design only for him to job against Buu, but even then, Yamcha has had a fuckton of different designs throughout the entirety of DB.
this is objectively the only good Yamcha design and his turtle hermit gi is a massive step down
Agreed, when I was a kid I thought Yamcha and Goku where brothers because they had the same gi and the same hair color.
This is the last word on Yamucha's faithfulness to Bulma and it is meant to be taken at face value. It is not meant to be taken as a joke like the one at the Kame House Reunion.
And here is word is Toriyama's words, as recounted by Yamucha's VA, on the subject from Dragon Ball Tenkaichi Densetsu
>That was a shock. I often spoke with Hiromi Tsuru-san, who plays Bulma; both she and I thought Bulma and Yamcha would end up together. And for Vegeta, of all people! It really was a shock. So when I met with Toriyama-sensei, I complained, “Why did it have to be like this?!” Then Toriyama-sensei said, “Come on; Yamcha’s a cheater.” (laughs)
And that is Yamucha's worst design, objectively. It just looks bad, there's a reason it has never been used again.
who the fuck likes that garbage?
>that face and shoes
Ugly as fuck,
it's cool and stylish
THIS is ugly as fuck
Yamcha was always very popular with women and Bulma was very jealous. For all we know, it could all be just one giant misunderstanding and Bulma was overreacting as she always does.
And if I'm completely honest, I find it very hard to take Toriyama's word for granted given that he never provides any evidence regarding the topic outside of just saying it (like in the "Krillin is the strongest human" and "Tien is an alien" topics).
And again, agreed with the design thing.
>Yamcha buys a cool new car
>Bulma starts frothing at the mouth and says he's only trying to impress other girls
glad he got out of that toxic relationship
Hypothetically what would happen if a character like beerus or someone like broly got GER'd?
Based.
Probably the same thing that happened to Diavolo, but at a much bigger scale considering it takes stronger stuff to kill them, unlike Diavolo who was just an average human.
BoG and Broly are better than Z, the rest is subpar, mediocre or outright bad.
Enter Chadly and Godgeta
If I would compare the Saiyans
Vegeta is a warrior.
Goku is a martial artist.
Gohan is suppose to be a hero but Toriyama has a hateboner for those.
more like enter my butthole please
>BoG
It wasn't really. It was just short.
>Broly
I can't be bother to watch the first officially DBS movie.
>super is over though
Then gt is better?
GT is part of DB history and irrefutable.
based.
GRIPren crushes GER in his palm
>they never did marry. you know the kind of person my mother is.
trunks literally admitting his mom is a bitch, yamcha is innocent
Most of these are legit but
>Trunks somehow managed to learn and hide a transformation from Vegeta, despite them being the only two people in the RoSaT
After that form failed against Cell Trunks realized Vegeta had achieved it and discarded it without deciding to warn Trunks of it.
worse
What are your hopes for the next chapter?
Bejita learning something that isn't lame as fuck and has actual lasting combat applications.
nice headcanon
>attacks GER
>dies but not really
>forever
Jiren is stronger than all of those gimmick abilities
Jiren can overcome anything with sheer power.
>fanfic artist thinks his opinion matters
Jiren is the strongest of the strong
>denying what Toriyama's chosen successor and coproducer of Dragon Ball Super says
Sad
>jobs to UI
>Jirenfags think you can defeat anything by flexing
>even thoughvhe got defeated by simple teamwork
Truly the brainlets of DBS threads
Cope.
He defeated UI in both versions.
Goku needed UI in the first place to take down Jiren who was without any sort of transformations. Cope.
You mean he waited until UI run out because he had zero chances of beating Goku when he was using it
UI isnt a transformation
Co-producer of a non-canon promotional manga
No way said it was, retard.
Yeah, and he defeated it by outlasting it.
>b-but it ran out
Cope.
>No way said it was
>"Jiren who was without any sort of transformations"
Learn how to write, retard
*co-producer of the canon sequel of DB
ftfy, Juan
Facts don't lie. And the facts are:
>jiren in his base stage was enough to overwhelm universes and have the gods of destruction taken aback
>goku and co needed to team on him
>ui wasn't even enough to eliminate him
You are a dumb spic. Jiren didn't need any transformations in his arsenal to be a threat, yet Goku and lot did.
>he defeated it by wait until it stopped kicking his ass
kek
>he defeated it by wait
Literal Mexican. Done.
>inferior powerlevel than Broly
>no special powers like Moro or the angels
Why is Jiren so shit?
>F-FURIZA-SAMA DON'T HIT ME
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEE
are you fucking stupid?Goku was the exception. By your logic ginyu would never be strong in any body, because he`s not used to it.
>calling anyone spic when cant even write properly
Jirenfags acting as retards without self awareness as always
>absolutely blown away without any arguments
NEXT.
>when cant
>acting as
KEK
>>calling anyone spic when cant even write properly
ESL-kun...
>when cant even
INCOMPREHENSIBLE fucking ESL babble
>deafening silence
I'M GONNA DO IT
I'M GONNA PRESS THE PRINT SCREEN BUTTON
Agreed and it marked the pinnacle of the series. Now its been reduced from a mythic form that almost no Saiyans could achieve to basically a nothing power up thrown in for all Saiyans or partial Saiyans. The Freeza arc really should have been the end of the series.
Goku was the exception because he was really strong and Ginyu had only been taking the bodies of brute force shitters. Aliens = brute force, Earthlings = skill.
Well, some of these aren't really contrived and some are exaggerations, but you forgot how fucking stupid the Trunks future is
>no one tries to use Namek DB (even though Kaio can locate them)
>Goku never tells anyone about RoSaT despite him being capable of communicating with them via Kaio and Gohan and Trunks trying to fight off androids for years
>Gohan is weak as fuck despite years of battle experience and tons of anger
Android saga is definitely the worst written part of Dragon Ball manga but it's still awesome, so people forgive it a lot.
I always thought that was because Earthlings and Namekians have "Analog" Power levels while Aliens have "Digital" power levels.
Take 2 of them with a Power level of 18.000
The Earthling can go from 0 to 18.000 while the Alien can be either 15.000 while resting or 18.000 while going all out.
To get the 18.000 the Earthling is the only one who knows how to get all the power from his body. The aliens simply use their raw power to get their strength
kids went back to school today
Doesn't American school start in September?
not where I'm at anyways
Mexico starts mid-August.
I'm getting mixed messages.
A Jirenscholar lives in Mexico but they're also saying Burorifags are from there and also children.
I'm in california and they went back today.
He's their teacher.
That is slightly worse
Floofy free flowing super Saiyan hair > rigid and spiky super Saiyan hair.
the Cell arc as a whole got very repetitive and was clearly mishandled. for all the criticisms leveled at the buu arc, i dont really see the cell arc get the same ones even though it deserves it in some areas. the arc wasnt planned out, swapped endgame antagonists three times and even swapped protags. and all while still feeling like just more of the same stuff weve seen. and coming right off the namek arc, it was kind of disappointing that was the case, imho
everyone got shafted in super, so dont feel that bummed out.
Some of this probably comes from Trunks popularity and the fact that people generally consider android/cyborg monsters to be cooler than bubble gum monsters. But Cell arc, for all it's stupid twists and turns actually got everyone some sort of satisfying conclusion. Kuririn gets a waifu (it's only fully confirmed in Buu arc, but implications are strong), Gohan realizes his true potential, Vegeta grows a heart, Bulma settles down with him and gets a kid (and kinda truly grows up), Piccolo and Kami fuse (though they don't achieve too much), Dende becomes a new earth guardian, Trunks saves his timeline and Goku dies. The only true satisfying ending in Buu saga is for Vegeta and Satan. Gohan and kids basically repeat Piccolo from Cell arc but worse (since they became actual power ups for the big bad and they don't produce the sense of finality the fusion did), Goku just kinda comes back to life without major changes to his character, Shin and Kibito are non-characters no one gives a shit about and everyone else is just kinda there.
>Goku just kinda comes back to life without major changes to his character
i dont really think thats true. the changes arent extremely pronounced, but i do think that him being dead gave him a better appreciation for his family and friends. you can see that hes taking buu a lot more seriously than he did with cell.
also the reason why goku stays dead seems really stupid and looks like it was just a spur of the moment decision towards the end. passing the torch can be good, but how they did it really didnt work imho.
t.gayjay
why doesnt chichi ever learn to fly? im sure goku or goten would teach her if she ever asked.
He is serious with Cell. He only screwed up with Senzu because he thought they have this one in a bag. And look at the scenes before the Cell game, he definitely appreciates his famliy. On the other hand, he lets his boys die in Buu arc.
wtf race was Recoom?
ginger
>he lets his boys die in Buu arc.
i always thought that was because dende was still alive so he had to keep the dragon balls working so they could bring everyone back. either that or they were too far away.
even still though, i think it was the same as him just sending gohan to fight without even asking. that was kind of weird as well.
>i think it was the same as him just sending gohan to fight without even asking
Well, he trained him for the very purpose. And he did ask. He just didn't explain he relied on him getting mad.