How the fuck was this a retcon? The guy repeatedly tells Ichigo that he's Zangetsu...

How the fuck was this a retcon? The guy repeatedly tells Ichigo that he's Zangetsu. The only people he tells otherwise are Old man Zangetsu and Byakuya, both he either hates for imprisoning him or doesn't give a shit about for being irrelevant.

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attention span of a bleach reader

I really wish Kubo didn't do this shit because it was so damn cliche and stupid imho.

>OP is bitching about it not being a retcon
Its been talked to death but the consensus is its not an asspull but rather terrible writing.

Compared to everything else Kubo's done, this is NOT bad writing

It’s not what was stated that’s problematic but rather how it was stated, namely the lengthy, convoluted chain of events that led to this - why not just say that Ichigo nearly hollowfying back in the Shattered Shaft was the cause of the hollow’s creation as opposed to waiting years in real-life just to come up with another explanation? It would’ve made just as much sense had Kubo given it some thought.

Because he needed a reason for Isshin losing his powers

Isshin.....what wasted potential. Kubo really had a gem here and could have been a legend but threw it away with bad writing.

I still am livid after all these years with how Gremmy vs Kenpachi ended and how someone who had the literal limitless power of imagination died in such a stupid way.

>but rather terrible writing
Why?

No, it was because we needed a reason for Aizen to be involved
>armchair mangaka
Keep seething for years to come

>How the fuck was this a retcon?

He acknowledges Old Man Zangetsu as Zangetsu when they are in private and also that he wants to steal Ichigo's powers.

He was a regular hollow corruption caused by Ichigo's unorthodox regaining of powers in Urahara's pit until Kubo started pulling stupid twists out of his ass. Urahara even tells him that the risk of said method is that he can become a hollow in the process, and he promptly crawls out of the pit with a Hollow mask on.

Even the first Vizard training was a soft retcon.

Actually there is supporting evidence that the hollow was always the true Zangetsu.
When Ichigo was going to pull out the sword from the box during the shattered shaft training he was unable to do so. His inner world was destroyed and the mask fully formed before he could become a shinigami. "Zangetsu" was desperate and pleading with Ichigo to hurry up and pull out the sword before it was too later and was confused when he couldn't.

>No, it was because we needed a reason for Aizen to be involved
We really didn't. Aizen's and Ichigo's non- relationship was perfect. Aizen wanted to turn Ichigo's hometown into a key and Ichigo didn't want that. That was motivation enough to fight him. And Kubo was smarter, it would've turned out that Aizen did not intend do destroy the town because the creation of an ouken was something that Aizen himself never talked about up until FKT. SS literally assumed it to be his goal based on his internet explorer browser history. It was a perfect twist to pull off and the problem with Aizen and Ichigo was always that they had good chemistry as characters and the manga was begging for them to be on the same side. Something that did not happen until the very last chapter.

He was practically the Hisoka of the manga.

>He acknowledges Old Man Zangetsu as Zangetsu
>what is sarcasm
They even had a friendly talk right before that.

>what is sarcasm
Not that.

Everything and anything when you have to defend a retcon. So logically you are never allowed to use this as an argument. It's a cop out.

Brainlets

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Cope

I kind if liked it.
"Everything I imagine becomes real, so here get scorched by the void of space."
"Oh shit, he survived that? Uh uh okay, how about a Nuke?"
"He survived that? There can't possibly be a chance that this guy is strong enough to kill me?"
"Whoops, I just imagined him being strong enough to kill me."
And then Kenpachi was strong enough to kill him.

What was bullshit was everything after that getting swept under the rug to hurry an ending, so much shit left in the air, so many quesitons left out. They did shit like spend 3 pages of build up for the fullbringers to arrive only to have them literally pat Ichigo on the back and leave. They brought the Boar-guy from the early seasons around and had him do.. nothing. Chad stuck around and then had an off-screen fight in the background. The Dads entire arc was "Heres an arrow, bye.".

Did Rukia, Renji and Byakuya even get a chance to use their Zanpakto 2.0 or did just Ichigo?

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>Did Rukia, Renji and Byakuya even get a chance to use their Zanpakto 2.0
Yes user, how did you miss that?

I'll be honest, I checked out pretty hard through most of the last arc and don't recall any of them doing anything, don't know if I just missed their fights.

Renji fought Mask, Rukia fought As Nodt and Byakuya fought Gerard.
How did you miss this?

I remember Byakuya although don't remember what his sword did, was it jus tthe same thing again?

Can't say I recall Renji and Rukia, I might have started reading that arc after they had their fights, I think it was roughly around the time the "Seppuku time" quincy showed up.

By being what 90% of the anons shitposting Bleach threads are: a Spee D. Reader.

zanpakuto info never

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source? asking for a friend

Be cryptic and vague so you can pull anything out of your ass later and claim it's inline with canon.

>bang-you
Please. He draws my fetish