Who was the best villain from Naruto?
Who was the best villain from Naruto?
Jacob Ortiz
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Tyler Collins
Pretty much the Edgihas and Senjews clans (except Tobirama)
I like the jokes as much as everyone else, but let's not shit on the name of the 2nd Hokage as some bigoted racist who offed the Uchihas. Let's not make the man out to be Hitler here. If anything he's the opposite of a racist.
The man fought against the Uchiha. His father and clan outright hated them. But he didn't get in the way of Uchiha-Senjews forming the leaf. Also didn't hold any lingering hate for the Uchihas who killed his own family even after Madara later betrayed his own brother and tried to harm the village.
He took time to study and understand them as people. Understood their love and edginess was part of their biological nature and accepted their strengths and faults. As Hokage, he could have took them out or discriminated against them like what happened under the 3rd. It wouldn't be surprising given his personal history and Black Zetsu manipulating them behind the scenes. Yet no such things happened under Tobirama's reign. He tried his best to make them useful and part of the village. Logically assigning them to jobs they could excel at, trusting them with police authority, and even gave them prime lands to live in. He even took in an Uchiha as his pupil, raised him right, and died protecting him. That is not the action of a RACIST.
Black Zetsu and Madara were manipulating war between Uchiha and Senju, but there was no war between them during that time. Only wars against other nations. It was one of the few times in history WITHOUT between Uchiha and Senju.
TL;DR
>Uchiha revolts under the 2nd: No
>Uchihacaust deaths during 2nd's reign: 0
>Uchiha revolts under the 3rd: Yes
>Uchihacaust deaths during 3rd's reign: All (except 2)
He didn't hate them nor did he fetishize them like Orochimaru/Danzo did either.
If anyone is NOT racist.
It's Tobirama.
Owen Lopez
Oro
Carson Brown
Kishimoto
Nathaniel Edwards
Orochi & Kabuto, but only in part 1
Madara in part 2. I guess.
But overall:
I concur
Nathaniel Russell
You seriously need to ask this when the answer is this obvious? Pic related.
Aaron Scott
Pain and Orochimaru and it isn't even close.
He asked for the best, not worst.
Nolan Peterson
Orochi from the pre-timeskip. Everything that came after was kind of meh imho, with the exception of Pain.
Brody Richardson
Tobirama did nothing wrong.
Angel Myers
Based
Austin Miller
The Genei Ryodan knockoff
Kevin Cox
>1st Hokage
>Mostly got along with the Uchihas
>But had fallen out with the most powerful Uchiha. Didn't even finish him off. Ultimately leading to the demise of the Uchiha clan, his best friend, countless other lives, and nearly the end of the world.
>3rd Hokage
>Did not get along with Uchihas
>All but 2 Uchihas planned revolt and died under his reign.
>The 2 survivors: 1 ended up dying a few years later charged with a crime he did not commit and forced to bear shame he did not deserve. The other went on to become an international terrorist.
>4th Hokage
>Didn't solve rising Uchiha tensions
>2/3 students dead. Uchiha student became an international terrorist. Who ended up killing him.
Meanwhile:
>2nd Hokage
>No Uchiha revolts during his reign.
>0 Uchiha defectors
>Uchihas fought side by side with Senju and other leaf nakama against the other nations
>Died protecting his students which included an Uchiha
And retards would actually say this Tobirama hates Uchihas.
Cooper Hughes
Obito.
>what if you were born in a village where the only school is a child soldier academy and enrollment starts at age 6?
>already spent 600 chapters proving him right in advance by demonstrating how absurd the system is and how many suffer under it
>builds on pain by rejecting base assumption that the world is required to be shit, instead having a plan to remake the world into one without suffering
>compared to pain who just whines that his pain is greater and that everyone has to share his pain
>god tier fight vs kakashi without any bullshit that ruined the series (chakra mechs/inextinguishable black flames/reincarnation nonsense)
>fights with others also solid since he fights strategically/defensively instead of with flashy dbz moves
>strongly connected to MC and one of the most popular characters, having shaped both their ideologies about comrades (kakashi directly, naruto indirectly via kakashi)
>only talk no jutsu in the entire series with proper build up/execution over 90 chapters (naruto/kakashi visibly getting on his nerves before unmasking) compared to 1-2 chapters for everyone else
>has multiple conversations with naruto/kakashi, challenging both instead of blindly accepting one speech
>hard work character the series needed (goofball screwup seen training hard in every flashback, even with a crippled body spends months doing nothing but training, ends up one of the strongest ever)
>basically no asspulls, has one single ability in part 2; uses it consistently to devastating effectiveness
His character arc also has more poetry than any other. To name a few:
>worst moment of his life is failing to make it in time to protect rin, which unlocks his mangekyou (the ability to instantly make it in time to any location)
>own ideals about comrades eventually lead to his downfall as naruto inherits them so strongly he considers every single person his comrade
>finally makes it in time in the last moments of his life to protect his comrades like he always wanted
Gavin Allen
Zabuza
Adam Sanders
How come we never got any information on the Hagoromo clan? Their clan had the same name as the Sage of Six Paths and they were also allies of the Uchiha clan against the Senjus.
Dylan Clark
>3rd Hokage
>Did not get along with Uchihas
How, the 3rd literally wanted to avoid the Uchiha massacre but was too much of a beta to tell danzou to fuck off with his plan.
Angel Turner
>Pic obviously not related
Nolan Thomas
Best villain overall? Pain, followed shortly by Orochimaru.
Jason Bailey
Re-ban Naruto from this fucking board please
Logan Ross
it's not the 1st's fault the uchiha rebelled and died. Madara wasn't even their motivation, it was the 2nd treating them like shit after the 1st died and then the 3rd not doing anything to help plus them getting blamed for the 9 tails attack. zetsu was fucking around anyways to constantly ensure there was division by changing their stone tablet and doing other shit to manipulate whoever was indra's reincarnation so there wasn't much he could've done anyways. besides HE DID kill madara. madara asspulled himself back from the death with his special eyes and i don't think anyone else was aware he could even do that
Christopher Carter
And yet his legacy will be the annihilation of the entire Uchiha clan.
Did you think senjus-uchiha shit couldn't have happened during the 1st/2nd reigns? Nope. 2nd just kept it locked down.
John Walker
This
Andrew Adams
Madara
Hunter Fisher
Ah, a good choice user!
Evan Bennett
Wasted potential. He should have ripped sauce's eyes out
Matthew Ross
I quite liked Obito, before the mask came off. He played a better "Madara" than Madara, but he lost his shine after the real Madara stepped back into his own shoes. People talk a lot about how Madara should have been the final villain instead of Kaguya, but honestly, I've always thought it ought to have been Obito. Also, there should have been more "Tobi" in the manga as well--that's one area where the anime's filler was helpful.
Jacob Gutierrez
>lost his shine after the real Madara stepped back in
I dunno, I mean Madara's big accomplishments were beating up jobbers and the five kage. And the kage were holding their own even when he made 25 Susano'os and ultimately only lost because he had edo tensei regeneration and unlimited chakra while their chakra was being depleted by the fight. On the other hand Obito had finite chakra but still had Naruto dead to rights a few times and continued to defy death repeatedly. Plus Obito clowns Madara 2-3 times when Madara has six paths power and Obito is practically on his deathbed. I feel like Madara's attitude tries to outshine but his actual deeds aren't very impressive.
>more "Tobi" filler
Man filler Tobi was something else.
Dominic Edwards
Orochimaru because he won
Lucas Jenkins
Kishimoto
Evan Collins
Reminder that the proper way to deal with Uchiha is to fuck them. Tobirama admits that they are a clan of love, they just react equally negatively if spurred or tragedy occurs. Thus, the correct way is to constantly show them love and dick them into submission. The evil Uchiha are the ones who failed to receive proper sexual intercourse. Madara failed to get Hashirama's wood. Obito failed to get Rin. In all those cases, the absence of sex is what caused it. The proper way is to dick the Uchiha so they would happily accept your dominance as they give birth to your kids. Make love, not war. Fuck them, not fight them.
Elijah Jackson
I wish Sasuke was a girl.
Jackson Clark
Stop samefagging your shit thread, Narutard
Landon Richardson
Here's the (You) you wanted samefagger
Jonathan Barnes
Orochimaru was the only good villain the series had.
Jonathan Sanders
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Fuck off back to you pathetic samefagging Narutard. You even make the same pathetic post in /tg/
Ryan Walker
Why? Naruto is(was?) in love with him regardless
Matthew Flores
Bentley King
LITERALLY no competition
Ryan Walker
Male Ino was hot
Cooper Gray
Absolutely based and Tobiramapilled. Would vote for Tobirama to make Konoha great again.
t. Uchiha Clan member.
Chase Parker
Madara was a jobbing loser.
Oliver Fisher
Long story short: both Tobirama and the Uchiha did nothing wrong. Tobirama wasn't racist, and he tried to actually understand them. Uchiha had full right to be angry: they did not support the crazy retard Madara, but still got discriminated against and punished for the sins of a single person. Danzo is a hateful retard and 3rd is a wet blanket
Isaiah Robinson
2bh Madara just shitting on everyone and casting the Infinite Tsukuyomi anyway after 300 chapters of their struggle was based as fuck
Charles Scott
Blake Cook
Not even a question
Ryder Bailey
Post promises which were totally kept
Anthony Reed
So was him getting fucked over by Black Zetsu
Julian Nguyen
Carson Roberts
I'm straight.
But Madara's hot.
Oliver Taylor
That was the best part. Serves him right.
Luke Gutierrez
No, Kishi, this is not what "based" mean
Bentley Rogers
It was. A shit end for a shit character.
Brandon Ramirez
Madara and Obito saved the war arc from being the worst arc in manga history.
Kaguya a shit.
Justin Miller
can only be killed by the strongest being in the universe
>even then he chose to die to protect his comrades
>his chakra allows kakashi to solo bijuu mode kaguya and get a direct hit on her with chidori
Owen Johnson
You know what was the biggest problem of the Akatsuki? The fact that these retards only worked in pairs. Seriously, imagine all of them gathering in one place and fighting together. Shit is unstoppable
Colton Brown
retard
Ian Gutierrez
They were part of the problem.
James Cook
The only good Uchiha is a dead Uchiha.
Easton Peterson
Fuck off Narutard
Leo Kelly
Seething Uchihanigger
Oliver Wright
nigger
Brayden Collins
The only shit here is your taste
Liam Turner
You posted him
Levi Cox
>Uchihacaust
Didn't happen, they Just race-mixed into the population.
Justin Howard
the cutest couple
Wyatt Collins
I can't tell if you are bieng ironic or not.
Ethan Campbell
I wish there was more scenes with Tobi and Deidara all we got was that three tails filler and Deidara's fight with sasuke it seemed to me that Obito actually liked Deidara and loved to fuck with him