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Finally out of break week.

Movie is out already.

Discuss

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>Finally out of break week
Bro...

Wait is the cam recorded version out? Anyone know

Good Morning

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Reminder that Zoro has yet to fight a Yonko, or damage anyone remotely close to a Yonko's durability (Oven for Sanji).

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>For almost 20 years we thought the name was Raftel
>People have died believing the name was Raftel
>It's actually Raftel
I'm not even mad. Best to just laugh about it.

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how does the slave trade work in One piece when the auction house is destroyed? random thought

>oven close to a yonko

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*Laugh Tale, I retarded

>Sanji damaged Oven

Keep your delusions to yourself

Change in artstyle. I assume Oda gave Luffy a more innocent look post-ts to appeal to the target audience

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Oda's artstyle changed

Also, the original character designer for the anime was Noboru Koizumi while after Saboady Kazuya Hisada assumed as charcter designer

>Inheriting Big Mom's durability
Not a single son has inherited her durability because it's basically a thing of her and her only.

zoro hasnt displayed any feats comparable to damaging oven and stopping big mom with a clash (along with luffy)
his speed feats are also just gutter after the whole carrot thing and not reacting to killer in time
his durability feats are also fucked, due to passing out (along with what appears to be a stomach comparable to an 8 year old introduced earlier in the arc) from said hit, but thankfully for zoro, sanji's is also pretty bad (without the suit)

Stated in oven's vivre card

You are reading something that isn't there.

>The sturdiness of his body inherited from Big Mom is number one among all of the brothers.
of course he didn't complete inherit it, its still the closest out of the brothers to her, and we've seen the shit katakuri tanked

>Sanji didn't get a single fight in Whole Cake
>Instead, he gets to bake a cake that does nothing but heal the enemy and kill those he's been trying to save
>BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THIS ONE PANEL HE KICKED SOMEONE

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Good thing zoro managed not to lose shusui, get injured 2 times so far and let orochi get away in wano. Oh wait

Which part isn’t there, Blackbeard saying the Yami Yami literally chose him?

>zoro hasnt displayed any feats comparable to damaging oven
Sanjicucks being delusional as always

>someone posts a basic speculation based off information given about devil fruits and top scientist research in OP.
You need meds if you think it’s not okay to discuss one piece in one piece threads user.

Yes, I'm glad Zoro is getting panel time. Getting his ass kicked means Oda cares about him as a character, because it means he can grow and improve.
As opposed to you know, being a non-character whose only played for his fanbase.

>couldn't come up with anything versus the previous points including the oven vivre card
>B-BUT UH LOOK AT THE BAD THINGS HE'S DONE
bro you just posted cringe...

I agree if Enel always wanted to go to the moon before he got his devil fruit, which may be the case. Lots of anger in these threads over anons being interested enough to speculate about the lore.

Delicious damage control

Your meds, user. Don't forget them.

Drake didn't even feel an attack that would blow Oven away, what a beast

>carnivorous Zoans vs Herbivore literally change the users personality.
>it’s crazy to think DF can affect a person’s mind/personality even though it’s confirmed one type can already.
Fuck off.

user, your meds.

>i'm glad zoro is getting his ass kicked by literal nobodies when luffy is fighting yonko's
Sad.

>no argument.
>no contribution.
>don’t speculate about one piece!
False Flagger hunterfag got a new tactic.

but where is Jack.

>Sanjincels reveal themselves to be DBSpics who only care about winning fights instead of the themes and story
As if they couldn't get any lower.

No one wanted him.........

So do you agree or disagree that a DF can alter the personality of the user?
It’s fuckung confirmed that Zoans can, at minimum.
All the best speculations have been “crazy” until they were true, that’s part of the fun of speculating in a one piece discussion.
Sorry you think it’s more fun to troll people who do.

user, the medication.

Oven is clearly completely fine and all his ""injuries"" disappear in literally the next page. I know you desperately need to latch onto anything you can because your boy has been pathetic the entire timeskip, somehow even more than Zolo, but just because orojackson is shutting down doesn't mean you should spam your sperg shit here.

>we now know that at minimum, all zoans have a “lineage factor.”

How do we know this? Specify chapter, page, panel, if you don't mind.

Zorocels the biggest fightfags after luffyfags make a 180 when btfo in the manga, movies and vivre cards. Hahahahaha

if only it were the same attack... or do you think killer took a hit that could cut a mountain in half, and lived?

>chopper’s human form
You are very dumb, chopper is literally a stupid reindeer except his DF gave him humanity. Take your own meds.

>no argument
wow, zorofags were actually btfo enough to use the fallback
thats really cringe ngl

This cope is getting ridiculous. They don't even know how to respond at this point.

Good luck you can’t even find translated scans anywhere online

>his injuries dissapear next page
That's cause oda is not consistent with battle damage, or do you think law magically stopped bleeding after getting his hand severed lmao

>i have no argument
Ftfy*

>"Again, will you pretend you don't know how Oda portrays battle damage, after they've taken it?"
>Oven is clearly completely fine and all his ""injuries"" disappear in literally the next page.
Wow, I called it.

Oh wow, you went from making up the story, to actually misunderstanding the story.
You gotta hit rock bottom at some point man.

I’ll give you some chapters dude but no point spending hours on an angryfag who will deny it and shout about medicine no matter what.
Chapter 698 is when Law explains about Caesar’s research and how it’s an extension of Vegapunks genetic research. 142 chapters after that we learn about “lineage factor” which is blatantly genetics related.
In Water 7 Lucci tells Luffy that his Zoan changed his personality to to have even more of a bloodthirst, since his Zoan is carnivorous.
Chopper’s fruit literally made him into a doctor tier human from a retard deer.

Just a reminder that kaisdo is taller than mom and the muh perspective fags will get humiliated next chapter when kaido and bm stand next to each other.

Zoro is yonko commander level while Sanji is East Blue level. I don't think any argument is going to change your mind if you that far off the mark

Yeah, how did the guy with a DF that lets him do anything he wants as long as he can come up with a bullshit reason of how is relates to surgery stop his bleeding?!

What are you even talking about? You just post random “nuh uh you uglies!” at people who discuss one piece?
So far you haven’t even pointed out an error.

Show me where Luffy and Kata's injuries disappeared and were immediately back to fighting at top form again.

The delusions. Luffy is also a doctor since he stopped magically bleeding after kata stabbed him with mogura. Cope harder

>when the stupid guy thinks he is smart.
Ya dude, I forgot about dr chopper and his dr family. Totally normal for reindeer.

Then why was he still bleeding when he told Jinbe he wasn't allowed to die?

I'll argue when you take your meds, man. Just take them and you'll go back to normal.

>If so, perhaps some devil fruits lineage are ‘guardians’, and can instill or subtlety suggest the use of their power.
Explain.

They forgot him

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I don’t get why /pol/ spam and derailing is tolerated in OP threads, really hurts discussion on the canon, such as this one with cited chapters and examples of devil fruits altering personalities.

Why do these threads get 100x worse whenever Sanji or Zoro get brought up?

The meds man, take your meds.

Try to look here
onepiece-doujins.tumblr.com/tagged/sanjixnami

It’s too exhausting with the spammer here wasting thread posts with “take your meds” every other post. Just my idea anyway, that’s not proven.

You don't need to get upset; I welcome speculation but I want to see what your basis for it is. I can understand what you're trying to suggest but I don't see the evidence supporting it.

There are literally 9 spam posts about meds with no contribution to this thread.

I honestly can’t remember the last thread that wasn’t shitted up by Sanjispics and Zorojews

>it was just a sneak attack, oven is a jobber
>oven is revealed to be the closest to bm's durability
>he wasn't hurt,oda is great at battle damage his scratches and blood just dissapeared magically
Are zorotards not tired?

No, what the actual fuck is your idea and where did you pull it from?

Too detailed and long a theory to get Med spammed, gonna have to post it elsewhere.

luffy stopped bleeding when chopper started to treat him. that was significant battle damage that was there until a proper medical cure was applied on the target: same for zoro's killer hit

Not really, mogura literally ripped his side but in the next chapter the damage shown is nowhere near the same

Threads wouldn't hit 500+ replies if it wasn't for Zorofags and Sanjifags sperging out

I'll keep an eye out, cheers user.

doesn't matter. the damage was still there, that's the whole point of the discussion

Sanjifags are the ones to start up shit all the time. Really feels like that have an inferiority complex.

>vivre cards are canon

435 cm

you don't even need the vivre cards to fucking see that oven is a goddamn tank. god, these fucking threads

But all the damage wasn't there which proves my point.

>Kaido vs Big Mom
>Big Mom is nerfed
fuck Oda

do we get early spoilers?

Oven is just another jobber

Stop replying to bait

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Fucking Yonji is more durable than Oven

your point was that the damage was minor in comparison to what the chapter ended on, not that luffy magically cured himself from one chapter to the other

>SANJI UNGA
>ZORO BUNGA

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Can you post initial damaged Luffy vs after damage Luffy?
I don’t think that stab was as bad as crocodiles, but I could be wrong. Both characters could keep fighting after being stabbed from what I can remember.

Luffy is so handsome!

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>discussions that women can't understand

If you dare do anything else you get medspammed though.
Control F “med” in any given thread and see for yourself.

based

Kata's stab was worse because he didn't get any meat afterwards to regen his HP.

>and his dr family.
I too remember Kureha and Hiruluk

Schizophrenics unironically need to take their medication though.

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Was Luffy as hurt initially though (in comparison to Croc Stan)?
I get what you mean about the meat though.

>Blackbeard told Ace he was chosen by Yami Yami, as well.
That was just BB being a schizo about fate, that's his whole stick.

Right, those were people Chopper could interact with because his devil fruit (apparently according to you with no genetic influence) turned him into a humanoid with high tier human intelligence.

No the Devil Fruit mind controlled him and made him kill Thatcher

You have a fixation on schizophrenia. Everything posted here is fiction, if you don’t realize that, well, look in the mirror.

sorry, i just get HEATED when they try to disrespect my boy oven

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That’s one interpretation. Another is that Blackbeard literally meant what he literally said.

Don't post twinkffy.

>Be user
>See that Lucci became a bit more bloodthirsty due to his fruit
>Derive that the spirits of the shandian ancestors inhabited the spirit trees, and turned into fruit to spread around the world, which mind control people and carry their own consciousness through which they take over people like Chopper, Teach, Lucci or Enel to enact their guardian will of the Ancient Kingdom which was destroyed but lives on in the spirit of the fruits
>Also claim that you don't have schizophrenia

Based Nami

I thought his whole shtick was being a hypocritical retard.
I.E. taunting everyone how they rely too much on their DF, only to rely 100% on his DFs to do anything.

There's a difference between fiction that Oda puts on paper (the actual manga) and the "fiction" you believe is there because the voices in your head tell you it is. Devil Fruits controlling people is just not something we have any evidence or backup for and doesn't seem like it would fit anything the series has been about over the years. The effects of a Zoan fruit making someone more aggressive is simply a side-effect of obtaining the physiology of a predatory animal. This shit about guardians is absolute bullshit you have fucking nothing to point at within the series itself.
Also
>If so Enel is the guardian of the moon
Enel wanted to go to the Moon because it was believed to be the home of God on Birka. His fruit didn't telepathically communicate with him and tell him to go there.

Oh he absolutely is a hypocritical retard.
>I believe in fate
>but I also have these elaborate plans for everything I do ZEHAHAHA

Woah where was all that posted? You just jumped the shark my man.

The Shandian trees containing spirits for real that became Devil Fruits is a theory that's been posted a bunch of times by an user who refuses to be convinced he's not right about it.

>things that weren’t posted for $500.00, Alex.
I only claimed that crossboarder schizophrenia spam is not good for the OP thread, and that there were literally a dozen posts of that spam in this thread.

Don't tell me what to do

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Ok and you associating that to me arbitrarily means I need meds? You are just a spammer and should be banned dude.

I kinda hope his dumb headcanon is true.
Based on how many zoans there are, it would confirm that the ancient kingdom was just a bunch of subhuman furfags, and that the WG did nothing wrong.

Because their fans are inesecure and need put others down to feel superior

>What Oda meant
>What user sees

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>but I also have these elaborate plans for everything
Most of which are carried by luck(fate)

Wasn’t it stated directly that those spirits inhabited those trees, rather than “derived” from lucci’s personality?
Almost sounds like you need the meds if an ancient theory has you triggered so much you bring it up first as your proof someone else needs meds.

No, not really. They were just trees and it was their dumb religion.

It was also drawn by Oda, with spirits swirling around the trees; definitely not “derived” from Lucci saying he got more aggressive because his DF changed his personality.
Though these definitely might be connected.

I was just answering that user's questions, I have had no interaction with you and have absolutely no intention of having any in the future since you seem to assume I'm part of a massive conspiracy against you.

>no it wasnt stated because I don’t like it, even though in fact it was stated and drawn in canon.
You are the schizo.

The Shandians BELIEVED spirits lived in the trees, but actually was disease.

>It's another "user creates his own fanfiction and then gets mad when Oda doesn't follow along" episode
I hate reruns

Nah user I just figured you were the medsposter. Conspiracies aren’t my thing, my mistake.

The fact that you assume everyone is against you speaks volumes. I recommend some time away from the internet.

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I will never forget out invincible captain Jack

The forest was only recently diseased in that flashback. Did you forget they also had a giant gold bell with a Poneglyph under it, said to guide the spirits?
All that is from the void century. This wasn’t some random island.

>All that is from the void century.
No, the poneglyph is from the Void Century but they had no fucking clue what it even was. Face it man, your theory sucks.

>Spoilers early this week
>But Oda will most probably take a break
I FOCUS ON THE PAIN, THE ONLY THING THAT'S REAL

Ryokugyu was one of those diseased trees who ate the mythical Hito Hito no Mi: Model Xian/Immortal

>Spoilers early this week
?

Remember that time in Noland's flashback when the introduction to the Shandians was them praying to a giant random snake as God, and offering human sacrifices to it to end curable diseases, settling their introduction as being savage, pagan worshippers who are far from understanding the real world?
Because someone in this thread sure doesn't. Take your meds.

>elaborate plans
>I'll just waltz into Impel Down and get poisoned what could go wrong

He's basically fat Luffy. He goes balls in and hopes everything works out. He'd probably smile on the execution platform too.

Now THIS is a good fucking theory

But Zoro is stronger than Sanji? I thought this was accepted as fact.

Nah dude, he spammed 12 posts about it, with no contributions to the thread.
So far goal posts keep moving in regards to the actual discussion.
1. DF can’t alter personality
2. Lineage factor doesn’t exist/isn’t smile related.
3. The manga doesn’t draw spirits in the holy forest (someone else started this discussion).
4. Blackbeard didn’t say Yami Yami chose him.
So far I’ve refuted all these, dealing with spam as I do it.
Hell we still don’t know if DF awakening is a DF waking up.

>All that is from the void century
what the fuck
only the poneglyph is from the void century

We get early chapters after break weeks

user, medication.

... no? we get early chapters only when they release jump before monday

> The manga doesn’t draw spirits in the holy forest
Pictures of spirits pls

SHUT UP AND LET ME DREAM

>Kaido still won't win

That part about the forest having disease is true, but it doesn’t mean that it didn’t also have the spirits user.
Spirits are confirmed to exist in one piece.
When Norland learned it was an ancestral forest, he did not doubt or spew atheism, he said his actions were unforgivable and dumped his treasure.
The modern shandians were ignorant, but probably right about the holy white forest housing spirits.
Oda drew those spirits AFTER the shandians retarded rituals were exposed as stupid, not before. You really need to reread the flashback.
Norland s crew also collects “weird fruits,” when they leave.

Thread reminder that Vivi will rejoin the crew and get the Nikyu fruit

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Reread the flashback. Ya man the void century shandians made that bell for nothing.

I'm leaving the thread now. If you're still talking about this theory when I come back I'm kicking all your asses.

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The only thing Vivi will get is Lucci's barbed cock.

No one cares.

>When Norland learned it was an ancestral forest, he did not doubt or spew atheism, he said his actions were unforgivable and dumped his treasure.
Ah yes, Noland showing understanding and comradery to his friend, knowing fully well that what he did was a huge insult to his ancestors must mean that he believes in devil fruit spirits that control people's mind.
You are incapable of understanding basic human emotions. This disease is greatly affecting your ability to reason and emphasize with people user.

If I was charlos I would have enslaved rebecca and Vivi, at least you can fuck them.

>Norland was partially right, and so were the Shandians, but their views were corrupted because of loss of gnosis from the void century and the attempted genocide against them.
Not difficult to comprehend.

CDs don't fuck their slaves. They forcibly marry anyone they want to have sex with.

user, you are rationalizing the behavior based on your spectrum of knowledge and understanding. You need to be able to go into the story and realize that OP is a high fantasy story where spirts literally can roam.

CDs wives/slaves, whatever same shit.

If wandering souls and spirits weren’t confirmed a thing in one piece, you might have a point. They are though.

The medication...

Why did Oda draw the spirits going into the trees that late in the flashback, well after the stupidness of the rituals were exposed?
That’s a lot of effort for nothing.

If anything, Brook deconfirmed wandering spirits, speedreader. He was originally in the afterlife, but his DF kicked him out.

our*

>his DF kicked him out
Explain

There's nothing to explain other than what I already posted.
He died, his soul immediately went to the afterlife, then his DF activated kicked him out, and he became a wandering spirit until he found his body.

Norland literally heard the golden bell even though no one else could.
Maybe there was a supernatural reason.
He was led there.
Also Norland is literally a botanist, and no devil fruits seemed to exist until after his time period.

You are proving my point about afterlife/souls/spirits in one piece.
Norland only didn’t believe in killing people to appease God, and was a stern believer in naturalism, but obviously he wasn’t completely right.
Thank you.

no

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god I'd love a cam rip of the film right now

>wandering spirits are just superstition in one piece
>proceeds to post absolute proof of wandering spirit
Fucking kek

Ok so now imagine there was a guiding light for wandering spirits called the Light of Shandora, and a forest that went with it from the void century, which Oda has drawn spirits going into.
Oh wait there literally was.

After Mary Geoise and Levely we finally have "Raftel's" proper spelling which is Laugh Tale

>souls immediately go to the afterlife after death, and the only exception is when they get kicked out through a devil fruit
>THIS CONFIRMS ALL SOULS ARE WANDERING

I wish I was this low IQ.

We had the idea right the whole time, nice.

This is what we call "playing yourself"

Zorojuro

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test

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cute bewitching kunoichi

Have you ever considered the possibility of “more than one possible way to become a wandering spirit, since wandering spirits are a confirmed thing.”
>IQ
user you can’t win an argument with insults and no substance.
No one claimed that “all souls” are wandering. The old theory is that the ancient shandian souls did.
It’s confirmed ‘a thing’ with brook, by your own admission.
If they are related to devil fruits, it’d make sense if one could do that for Brook too.
Souls can wander in one piece and in the void century a huge bell was built to guide the shandian warriors to the holy forest of “embodiment,” as named by Oda, who has a thing for super special trees.

If this schizo's theory is proven right I will literally eat my shit live on stream.

What do fruits grow on? Would you consider a devil as a sort of spirit or analog to a spirit? Maybe ancient shandian warriors were called devils because they had special abilities like how robin was called as a kid.

>Souls can wander in one piece
Only after they eat the Yomi Yomi no mi. Otherwise they immediately get teleported up to heaven, no "guiding light" required.

...

Whitebeard a shit

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So is Viz and the rest of the world just gonna go with Laugh Tale forever now?

If all Shandians had Brook's ability, they would've just possessed their corpses, instead of trapping themselves in a rotting tree lmao

>the ONLY way for a soul to wander is with brook’s devil fruit.
Citation? Where is that stated?
It’s true that Brooke’s devil fruit confirmed souls can wander with sentience, but I don’t remember his fruit being stated as The only way.
If devil fruits originate from the ancient shandians then it also is consistent that a devil fruit could grant a latent ancient shandian attribute, as well.

>guessing intentions of the Shandians as being what you would do.
You are clearly wrong.

It's a dumb theory because of how fucking inconsequential it is. Some explorer decides to cut some rotten, dying trees, and this in turn causes the biggest power dynamic to release into the world? It sounds retarded, Devil Fruits need a more grandiose and meaningful existance.
It just sounds fucking stupid.

Those trees were fine for hundreds of years before Norland arrived. They persisted through the void century and are named “holy white tree of embodiment.”
Suddenly Norland heard the bells call when no one else could, in a storm, while the forest was in crisis.
No devil fruits existed in Norlands time. He went to places as far as Green Bit and didn’t see them, as he was literally logging plant life in a book.

True. They couldn't hurt Big Mom like this.

Shandians were obsessed with protecting their history. Possessing useless trees wouldn't help with that in the slightest.

He was a botanist, he had a log of plant life but no indication of knowledge of the fruit of the devil.
He literally sailed away from Shandora possessing “weird crops,” as well.

>No devil fruits existed in Norlands time
Proof?

Whitebeard gets stabbed by literal whos
>omg so badass and epic whitebeard the strongest
Big Mom gets hit once
>big meme!! what a waste just remove her from the story, too weak to be a yonko

Completely wrong, the DF encyclopedia's first draft was written by Norland.

Probably he supported the old theory which said DFs were created by Vegapunk.

The ancient Shandian Poneglyph says “with moths closed we keep working on the project,” or some shit similar to that, about loose lips sink ships.
We have very little info on what they were obssessed with.
The shandian elder only knew that they were attacked by the WG when it newly formed, and that in some absurd way the Shandians repelled that invasion after a massive loss of life.

Oh lord, he's now making stuff up to fit his retarded theory. Watch him ignore the posts completely and pretend nothing happened the next time he appears.

Prove they existed in his time. It’s strokgly suggested they didn’t by virtue of a literal plant expert sailed around the world, even the new world, without ever having knowledge of them, despite writing a book about plants.

I miss Robin's pre-timeskip look so much.

I want to FUCK mommy Makino

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Can you post the parts that are made up, or is this just another spam/discouragement post?

And where is your proof of all of this?

Awesome, I didnt know that was canon but I did hypothesize he discovered them later on.
He left Shandora with what he called “weird” crops. But during that flashback his book is shown and it only depicts normal plants. He doesn’t seem at all aware of devil fruits and absolutely no one has one.
Only after his flashback have we ever seen indications of devil fruits.

>prove a negative
If you want to show Norland knew what devil fruits were at shandora, prove it.
If it’s true he wrote the “first draft” of the first book on devil fruits, the theory is very well supported.

Whitebetard gets wounded a lot and still stands
>omg so badass and epic whitebeard the strongest
Big Mom gets mentionned as litterally invincible unless weakened in a very specific way, which turns out to be false
>big meme!! what a waste just remove her from the story, too weak to be a yonko

Can you post the page or chapter this is revealed in? If it’s true that Norland wrote the first DF encyclopedia, then wow, it really might be true that they were released because of him.
Fruits definitely tend to come from trees.

That's not how proof works user.
You made a claim, so you post evidence to support it. If we go by the assumption that in the One Piece world Devil Fruits have existed forever, then it makes sense he wouldn't mention them because it's a normal occurence that are not consequential to his flashback.
The lack of evidence is not the evidence of absence,

>1120: Norland meets the Tontattas on Green Bit and saves them
>1121: Norland publishes first edition of the Devil Fruit encyclopedia
>1122: Norland arrives on Shandora for the first time

Oof.

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Is harjuan stronger than the giants in little garden?

You are misunderstanding the point completely. It's like playground superpower fights, it's a cooperative imagination exercise where you just make shit up according to loose implicit rules, not a serious discussion.

I’ll rephrase the claim then:
Devil Fruits and devil fruit powers were not indicated or implied as existing when Norland visited Shandora. He did take “weird crops” with him, from there, though.
I’m not claiming gnosis though it’s entirely possible I’m wrong. I think one user will be eating his own shit when I’m proved right though. Absolute proof would leave no discussion.

Exactly this.

Stronger than Hajruden in my opinion, but hard to say. That combined attack at the end seemed broken strong.

What is the citation for this user?

>Spirits are confirmed to exist in one piece.
what
only spirits existing in op world are from perona's df

Brook.

Perona’s, Big Mom’s, Brooke’s, literally Klaubeuterman.
Nope.

That Cindy girl had a shadow but at one point her real spirit presented itself in her body IIRC.

huh?

Where's all the black people in One Piece WTF Oda is racist, boycotting One Piece now.

It’s been so long but the zombie blonde girl on thriller bark’s real personality appears once during the arc, in contrast to the shadow that inhabited her body 99% of the time.

Was it when she was throwing those plates but forced herself to stop?

>forced herself to stop?
chopper stopped her, if i remember correctly. and then, she started crying

Let me guess, this is where I post 10 examples of black characters and you say that they aren't black and we argue for 100 posts?

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It is when she refuses to rescue Hogback, yes. Chapter 469.

In my opinion the most racist thing would be including token characters of race explicitly to avoid being called racist, since that person has to be thinking in terms of race.

>black people
People? Hahahahaha

10? You wouldn't be able to NAME even 3, let alone 10. Yeah that's right. I'm sure there's some black guy standing around somewhere in the background of a frame, but that doesn't count if he has no name or personality

This could be argued as just remnant memory in her physical body, or a spiritual thing.
Just like Shandora forest Oda is an expert at this.

Shanks?

I can name more than 10, many of them major characters, but I'm not going to

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Souls and spirits are not the same thing.
Spirits are separate non-human entities, like Perona's hollows and Klaubuterman. DFs are probably also spirits, based on what we know so far.
Souls are the energy sustaining the body's life. They are blank slates with no will of their own, but much like shadows, take on characteristics of their host. This is why homies have "memories/personalities" of their previous host, but quickly lose them exactly like shadow zombies.
DFs are spirits that latch onto their hosts body, not their soul, which is why DF abilities don't get switched under Law's soul swap. Brook's DF is especially interesting because it's the exception, it latched onto his soul and turned it into a spirit instead.

without consequences?

I won’t dispute this; good clarification and you are right I was wrong.

It's not like Shanks cares

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>Law's soul swap
it was a mistake

I am a Sanjifag and I approve of this. Full power Zoro has to be the second strongest in the crew.

They are called fishmen

Didn't you see that one nigga in Buggy's crew?

there are a ton of auction houses, Disco's was just the most popular one

But what if fucking Makino affects the balance of the world? Then he would care

Dark skin doesn't mean someone is black. Just look at Greeks, Turks and Italians.

>I can understand how you feel.
Is that anime only because it makes no sense regardless of if it’s in context to Luffy wanting to sail with Shanks as a kid but not being allowed (Shanks was), or in regards to being frustrated with accidentally eating a devil fruit, since Shanks can swim.

Brooding with Cracker.

>shirahoshi is poseidon
>kaido is uranus
Where's pluton?

I wonder how hard those 20 years are caused simply by translation and the japanese been laughing at how obvious it is for years.

Raftel is also said as “laughter” because of meme about the pronounciations of “r” and “l” being flipped by moon people; laugh tale and laughter aren’t that far off.

In Alabasta.

kaido is posiedon and Shirahoshi is Uranus
pluton is in rocky port

A wise decision, it'd only spark the whole how black is minimum black to count as black discussion again.

For anyone who’s been here a while, it’s cool to see that the
>Raftel
>Lafter
>Laughter
Meme was basically right all along.

It's just Luffy being angry about Shanks doing anything against the mountain bandits.

>because of meme about the pronounciations of “r” and “l” being flipped by moon people
They're not flipped, the sounds are just interchangeable to japs.

Did I say it does?

>all capable of seeing the future with their haki
Katakuri tier antagonists

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Ya, I missunderstood that but learned it just now; Raftel is basically right though, because of this interchangeability.
Instead of “Lafter” meme from Raftel, it turned out “Laftel” or better put, laugh tale. The old meme said “laughter” because I guess anons thought both were switched, instead of just the R.

This is the first thread I’ve read with a meds spammer. Seething, coping and even dilate have been more recent imo.

Not really because they all lost to paradise shitters.

>Dark skin doesn't mean someone is black
give this man an award

Reminder that Luffy could not defeat Satori 1v1 at Skypiea, though he could defeat Enel.

Imagine how much better Skypiea would be without these jobbers. You could just have a comfy exploration adventure without another island rescue mission

Blacks barely exist in the world of One Piece its a mostly Caucasoid(white type) and Mongoloid(North East Asian type) populated planet so paradise.

I just realized Oda made it so the first dragon in the story “Ball Dragon” was a tribute to Dragon Ball’s name.

>reverie chapter has imu looking at a picture of vivi showing her importance in the future
>Vivi and Nami reunion a sure thing
Will they be the first lesbian couple of one piece?

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ラフテル or its romanization 'raftel' suggests it's pronounced with a short "a" sound, but the "a" in "laugh" is a long vowel sound ODA IS A HACK LINGUISTS BOYCOTT ONE PIECE NOW

I feel like an idiot because it took 11 years and someone else pointing it out for me to get this.

>First dragon in the story is a Kaido dragon.
>it’s a marionette
I think it’d be cool if Orochi is Kaido’s marionette, so that Kaido can be redeemed more easily after the arc. Rather than that Orochi is just a figurehead and Kaido is in control.

The swamp trial guy was cool,he can stay.Though I do think they should have focused more on exploration in Skypeia,both islands were really cool but we got to spend most of our time on the terrorist subjugation mission.

Is Nami using Haki while reading the weather?

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>Norland's crew also collects "weird fruits"

Page? I agree with all your points but I completely missed this detail

I'm pretty sure it's confirmed at this point that she's an observation specialist

I felt that Luffy, Sanji, Usopp, vs. Satori and his Dragon was a superb fight. The only one I didn’t like was Gedatsu.
Gan Fall in the Trial of Strings losing after Chopper used the whistle was very well done too. My heart dropped.

Vivi is straight

Then why is she not married

So is Nami.

I read into this and it is likely my error, the fan wiki states that Norland brought the fruits to Shandora, basically blessing them with a healthy easy to grow food source.
My impression was, when they left, they loaded “weird crops” or some variation “strange”, “unusual,” etc, onto their ship, stated either by the crew or even the narrator, but I would bet the wiki is right here and I just misread or read a bad translation.

This, Vivi belongs to Zoro

Fags doesn't exist in One Piece

Nami has never shown any sexual attraction to males.

Neither has Vivi.

I can't believe Nami and Vivi are asexual

Haki can't let you predict the weather, since haki relies on intent to make its predictions outside of the teeny percent that has future sight.
Nami probably has a psychic power similar to Shyarly.

I like Smoker

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Princesses can’t out of tradition.

When will Koala actually do something besides sending a couple of reports to sabo?

Then why did Vivi try to seduce Zoro?

Literally the first use of Observation Haki is Zoro predicting where a bunch of rocks will fall.

>implying Shylarly's predictions aren't haki

L O L

Because at first she tried to gut the Strawhats.

Why would she do anything? She’s just a nice touch regarding FI flashback, nothing more.

ZEHAHAHAHA, MUGIWARA!

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What?
WHAAAAAT!?
Black people.......in mah ONE PIEEEECE?

Coby detected a demonic aura in chapter three, which Kaku also detected (twice).

PAOPAPAPAPAPA, MUGIWARA!

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>all the build up to kaido and big mom with punk hazard,zou, and dresssora
>cake island was just okay and wano is a snorefest.

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I've always read Raftel with a long "a" sound. Is it supposed to be read with a short "a" sound?

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I think Crocodile had the best build up

If that's true then Zoro should've died since her seduction was successful. Since he's clearly alive and well, she wasn't trying to kill him.

See pic
Not so sure about that
Pretty random ship

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Kinda cool that it was a thing the strawhats only encountered once they got in the first saga of Paradise. It was a whole new world.

We really need more vehicles and tools tailor made for specific DF powers

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speedreader

Jobbing to a ladybug that ate a logia

>shit taste: the post

That’s called observation haki retard

no u
She had a gun on her user, if she wanted Zoro dead, she would've pulled it out and shot him right in the head once her seduction technique worked.

WCI is top-tier OP and Wano is shaping up great, what are you smoking?

>King:"Get a load of this guy"

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>This guy, right?

retard

why are they making fun of Le Kaido

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Get yourself tested if you have trouble paying attention for more than 30 seconds.

It comes in various rare forms or it could be something else like the voice of all things or the breath of all things, a special one. I agree that Norland had strong haki; I don’t think it’s a given that he heard it because of a conscious effort though. Norland was very surprised and commented on it and wrote about it.

Toki had her devil fruit at least 800 years ago

>Oven anywhere near Yonko level

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>that body swap doujin on top right
I wish we had more of those, Sanji bouncing on Nami's new dick makes me diamonds

Is shanks the father ?

Bellemere had a gun on her against Arlong too.

Yeah sure.

SaNa powerful as always

They were sealed into the forest of embodiment in the end of the void century, but Lady Time cleverly escaped that fate.

Not an argument. Explain why Vivi didn't kill Zoro, when he was 100% incapacitated for a moment, if she wanted to kill him. She could've easily pulled out her gun, but didn't. We've also seen that her peacock slashes have a huge range, reaching all the way across Crocodile's huge dining table. She had ample means and opportunity to kill Zoro.

>Oda stated that the father of Makino's son is "probably that person". It is currently unknown who this person is.

What chapter was that again?
And if that's the case, why was Luffy able to hit Enel when Luffy was attacking at random, despite Enel having one of the best observation haki in the series?

There were just too many punches to dodge and when he got hit initially he couldn't dodge anything anymore and got the full barrage.

>Enel having one of the best observation haki in the series
[citation needed]

>Vivi killing Zoro
yeah sure
same logic why some random bounty hunter just didn't shoot zoro with a rifle

I would wager money that Lady Toki met Norland Montblanc, if she is in fact from the Void Century, and that she left her original timeline to escape.
She might have helped Norland defeat some enemy, giving him a status as a legendary hero according to the Tontatta.

That was his fight against Mr 1. It was a pretty important moment.
Also, Enel outright tells that he uses his Devil Fruit power to read people's mind, in combination with his Mantra. Meaning he has an overreliance on people knowing what they're going to do. Luffy throwing him a curveball and not thinking at all means Enel is out of his comfort zone.

In that case it’s whoever naturally comes to mind. Duh. There’s no doubt about it.

kinda weak headcanon if you ask me

"probably that person" is clearly a reference to Shanks
There is no age-appropiate male candidate that has related with Makino other than Shanks that would come to mind if the author uses that phrasing

Agreed, it's obviously Luffy

>WCI is top-tier OP
Jinbe,Brook and Bege were the only great parts of that arc

>Wano is shaping up great
Not a single likable character introduced in the Wano arc. Nobody gives a single shit about the red scabbards, otama, the tengu or hyogoro. Even Yasuie's death failed to move the readers much.

>That was his fight against Mr 1.
Breath of all things was never confirmed or even hinted to be haki, whereas similarly vague stuff like voice of all things has been.

>meta reasoning

yikes

If you want to believe that sure. But the link is strong.

Why would Shanks sail all the way out to East Blue from New World again? To see Garp for some reason?

she was 19 and Shanks were 27 that's literally pedo

Was Ace just really weak?

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Pedo detected

He got an unlucky matchup

Yeah he was killed in one hit, lmao what a faggot. Luffy would have stood up and said something about he'll never go down against an enemy that dosn't respect nakama

>luffy is already wasted and needs Jinbe to carry his unconscious body
>still tanks akainu's maga fist
Now granted Jinbe helped and he would have died without Law's help but Ace just immediately dies compared to Luffy.

>Jinbe,Brook and Bege were the only great parts of that arc
>Not a single likable character introduced in the Wano arc
the delusions of this post

Retard didn't even know Haki

Even if he was physically just as strong as Akainu he would've still lost due to the power difference between DFs.

That's literally not pedo

That's a nice question. He did travel all the way back there at least a couple of times already and Shanks has been shown to roam quite freely around the seas, so I guess it's not out of character? I guess he must have liked Makino a lot

Luffy got a superficial burn user, Ace got an MK Fatality.

I can't blam them. They did not faced strong enemies before since they were in the skies and not on blues. On any blue with a lot experience they would be all Katakuri-tier fearsome people.

After all these years I realized that Ace must have covered his back with Haki but Akainu Haki punched through it nonetheless
That's so much more brutal

Not really, Enel didn't immediately lose against Luffy despite the bad DF matchup.
So Ace is just really weak.

No 1 would get obliterated in the new world

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his boat was nice

Yeah... or maybe Oda is just a hack.

but he's been in the NW for 2years with Croco and he's fine

That's different, Luffy's punches didn't melt the skin of Enel, in Ace's case even in the case with equal stats Akainu's Heat++ is enough to pierce him.

>He did travel all the way back there at least a couple of times already
Only when it as his base. After that, he said he'll leave for good and hadn't returned from what we know.
And I'm not sure if Shanks himself leaves New World all that often, yonko territories need yonko protection after all and I don't think even they have super high-speed sailing.

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>with croc
No 1 would get obliterated in the new world if he went solo without one of the most powerful pirates ever watching his back

Monet is the best girl and is my wife.

Also: her face looks exactly like Nami's, Oda is a hack

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You know, even with the inferior fruit I still can't see Jazz Boner losing to Baby 5. Swords in OP acts as blades and cannons anyway.

weak heart yeah

It would be a nice explanation for what Shanks was doing all the way there

but they're all women you sexist pig

Armament Haki means nothing in the face of extreme temperatures

You'll melt or freeze regardless of coating yourself in Haki

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Remember when Grand Line was called the graveyard and meant to be dangerous?

Your wife is my wife, dude

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Well yeah. The weather will still fuck you over. Doesn't matter how powerful you are as a DF user if your ship capsizes you're fucked.

You'd be right if he didn't meet Zoro first.

>has luffy's hair
>"Must be Shanksu!!!"

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Her death was handled really well. It's kinda odd how her and Vergo were the only Donquixotes to die though.

All he’d have to do is pimp slap her then tell her that he needs her.

>one of the most powerful pirates ever
I like Crocodile as much as the next guy, but come on now.

That's hot

You think the average pirate crew would've survived Luffy's journey?

It's Ace baby

Cringe

Croc could legitimately 1v1 any of the pirate warlords.
>takes on doffy with a jozu
>takes on hawkeye

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Lao G briefly died too for what it's worth.

On the contrary, Akainu could only defeat Ace because Ace did not know that he could be burned. Ace was naive, but as a combatant he was on the level with Akainu, surely weaker from less EXP, but in terms of raw talent, on par or stronger.
Luffy never beat Ace, it took Whitebeard to beat Ace. Akainu didn't even beat Ace legit, probably Ace could deal with being singed and for sure he was faster than Akainu.

Crocodile is the sexiest and strongest pirate alive, he only lost to Whitebeard because it was rainy day.

Now that the dust has settled can anyone exlain to me how Law's freak patients gained control of their animal parts? Did killing the animals grant the attached patients control? Did Law keep the mutilated living animals?

this

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>no haki

Pls

Whitebeard could have been killed by Luffy and Bege's plot. He's strong but he can still be hurt by blades and bullets, so there's nothing special about him.

They would. Luffy and co had "hard" time because they treid to fucked up the place for the sake of a friend. A simple travaler wouldn't give a shit about Krieg, he would just set sail. He and his crew wouldn't care about Wapol retakes his throne, Crocodile wants to rule Arabasta and there is a civil war. They could easily dock and shop at Water 7 and pass through Sabaody and Fishman island. They wouldn't even piss off Doffy at Dressrosa.
Only problem would be Skypiea, but probable they wouldn't even go ther and Thriller Bark, which was again a location that can be skipped.
But yeah I give that to you, Thriller Bark would make hard time for them.

To me this looks like a burn scar from a third degree burn on Akainu's face and neck.

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unless he earthquakes the bullets away

It's freezer burn :)

>job to gomu gomu no bazooka
ok

*AHEM*
>Sick, pulled off literal life support a half hour before, fatally sucke stabbed (not literally), stated that he is significantly weaker because that was possible, experiencing seizures while being attacked by Admirals, with him having accepted death the second he took off his IVs, Whitebeard could have been killed by Luffy and Bege's plot.*
FTFY
If Big Mom got the cancer she'd be in her knee scratching state until she died or it was cured too.
Kaido has a worse than death curse, and is literally jealous of Whitebeard.

Good point you're right.
Ace full stopped Aokiji's Ice and pursuit on Marineford.

So would Luffy respect crocodile now because he saved him here? How does crocodile and Luffy's meeting go in the new film?

He also shaked away Akainu's magma before he was having seizures, but I'm not sure if he could do it to Kizaru's beams.

Please don't bully Paradise retired Croc, it's not his fault the MC had plot armor and survived 2 fatal losses. Current day Crocodile underwent certified seastone prison workout and has his PK ambition.

I do not think Luffy is aware of how Crocodile saved him in this scene, unless someone told him afterward. He probably does remember when Crocodile stayed Ace's execution with a sand attack though (not pictured).

Fuck Nami

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Imagine if Luffy treated crocodile like he did with Law when he met him again? But Robin and the other crew were there to witness it?

That will be 100 million berri

forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=49663

please post the best fan theories that will blow my mind
the one i linked is by far the best ive read and im hungry for more

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When luffy was in the sea he could still stretch and have a rubber body

Could Wapol still chew seastone because his mouth is a physical trait that's similar to Luffy's rubber body?

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Shanks is the a spirit of an ancient Shandian who accidentally possessed the last Red Poneglyph instead of one of their Jaya special trees

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He could chew it but he'll break his teeth on it.

Zorojuro

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Very well thought out theory there, whether it turns out to be true or not.
My favorite is that Nami is the ancient weapon Uranus, or the key to it/pilot of it, similar to how Shirahoshi controls the Sea Kings. I like it because Enel invited / Nami asked to go with him to the moon.

Yonkou

The one with 2 Shanks. I don't remember when it was posted here, but it's very convincing.

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>2019
>retards still don't understand the difference between the effects of the sea and seastone
How hard were they dropped as kids?

Scary.

It should be Rough Tale. Referring to the rough journey one has to undertake in order to find the treasure (Nami and Robin).

It's only rough if you have no nakama. With nakama it becomes a laugh tale

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marines are fags

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Mr. 3 and Goldenweek fight was the most memorable fight in Alabasta

Reminder that Aokiji was the strongest Marine and Akainu cheated

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>Fairy Tail foreshadowed Laugh Tail in its title
Is Mashima the true master of foreshadowing?

My favorite is the one about Shanks’ hair, specifically that it (or Shanks himself) is the fourth Road Poneglyph, disguised.
The theory claims that Shanks hair is rather unique, being the only object intrinsically colored Grey in the story, other then the Road Poneglyph, and Big Mom’s Soul Imbued Rainbow, the exception that proved the rule; and because Shanks hair is literally the same color as the glyph. It claims that other hair colors are all intrinsically white or black in shade, because of a hundreds of years ban on colored clothing in Japan, with the Japanese relying on shades of grey to differentiate for fashion, status, and ceremony, instead of color, and that this history adds special meaning to Shanks hair and the Road Poneglyph being Grey and Red, instead of White and Red, like literally everything else in the story including the red Line.

They're just referring to the admirals in general, at that point the admirals weren't introduced yet.

It's the same thing. Luffy can still stretch even with seastones on him

>die
Monet is a Logia and Caesar is a punk, at best he just gave her a shock like zolo did but worse because she was already injured and it was her heart. She passed out and lost her memory and is living happily with the centaurs as their caretaker. I won't believe it, she's not really g-gone...

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here we go again

If you're ugly on the outside you're probably ugly on the inside too

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youtube.com/watch?v=mZPZNiuIp-c

Im is an alien, pretended to be a God and started to take over the World.
Lost Kingdom found out his secret, and tried to stop him. They went to war and this led to the Void Century.
The One Piece is his spaceship. He hid it somewhere where it would be impassable, so no one could reveal his secret.
Raftel means Raft of El.. or Ship of God.
Roger called it One Piece because it's a flying saucer that looks like a coin, or "(one piece) of eight" like the old nickname from the real Pirate Age for a Spanish dollar. He found it but couldn't use it because he was too sick to deal with what it meant to the world and start a war, so he made a challenge to the world.. starting the Great Pirate Era so that someone strong enough to find it, could use it.
It's not a great treasure trove, but it's the most valuable thing in the world because of what it means.
Whitebeard said when it's found it would shake the world to it's core and start a great battle, because it's existence would unquestionably reveal that Im conquered the world hundreds of years ago and everything they know is a lie.
Oda said that, OP is in fact a physical treasure but it's also about the journey. This is a double entendre.. it's about the journey of the Strawhats but also the journey of the ship One Piece itself.

Stop shilling your shitty videos here

good intro. subbed.

That one is absolutely the best theory around

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What 40 years does to a girl

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The ones on the bottom are just the prisoners they brought to punkhazard
Look at their clothing

That giant skull engulfed in fire and magma is much larger than Oarz Jr's skull. Just a note.

a great read

I'd still fuck Brulee

Whoops, I mean Oarz himself. He's a lot smaller looking.

Onigashima and Kaido MUST be related to this mess.

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she's still a great person, who has more of a claim to the title of strawhat than Carrot

>Implying that she didn't crave BFC

maybe they're the more recent ones. In any case they must be part of an experiment on gigantification
if Onigashima is actually an Ancient Giant skull, it could even be bigger

Rayleigh says roger could just hear the voice of all things and that they can't really read poneglyhs but roger could just listen to it

youtube.com/watch?v=iC8n0EAAGwE
How come roger was able to inscribe that?

Oden?

ONE DREAM
ONE WEESH

Skypia was in the paradise part of grandline. Oden joins the crew from wano

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checked

jesus

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>I don't understand what makes them so special
Yeah, but like, he's the author, so he should know?

How does Katakuri get along with King?

Love really is blind.

based slowreader

He can inscribe it because the plot demands it, so probably there just happened to be someone there that can write it. I can imagine it right now.
>"Yes one of the God's subordinates was able to inscribe it for us, sadly he was killed by Enel when he took over"

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Could Nami have advanced form of observation haki with her ability to predict the weather before it forms?

There's more than one entrance to Skypeia, isn't there? Also there's nothing indicating that Roger only went through the Grand Line once. If anything, I'd say that's unlikely.

based speedreader
go read Inuarashi's explanation to Nami when she questions about not following the log pose

>Donquixote Doflamingo was defeated by a man from Foosha (windmill) Village
How does Goda keep doing it

Oden also went with Whitebeard, it doesn't mean anything when he joined. They didn't go straight to Raftel, they could have traveled along the Grand Line and the four Blues before going to Skypiea

A lesson Luffy has never learned and why Kaido raped him.

Roger didn't even find out about poneglyphs until he had gone around the world once

Or maybe Oda is a hack who's making shit up as he goes along.

So is Kuma's backstory going to be like King Riku? Deposed king of a country framed for being evil and forced to become shichibukai to keep his home safe.

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>Roger didn't even find out about poneglyphs until he had gone around the world once
Which chapter is this?

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>Vivi will rejoin the crew and get the Nik-

734. Look it up.

Rebecca > Vivi

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Somewhere during Zou

There's nothing in that chapter. It's just a Colosseum fight.
Don't make randoms shit up

user, Oda is making up the whole story.

vivi is such a retard holy shit, If Drum had been under Wapol’s rule by that moment the sh’s would died thanks to her.

this
her VA is pretty good to

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Zoro's wife

Rebecca is for rape
Vivi is for marriage

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>Roger didn't even find out about poneglyphs until he had gone around the world once
This has never been stated in the manga.

It is quite literally stated in chapter 820

Now THIS is kino, now I'm sad he wasn't the last villain.

Sanji's reaction to seeing women isn't funny.

>spoiler
>mfw

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It was only called that by shitters from the blues

this is the most kino scene in whole manga
nothing can top that

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Rebecca is so shit.

How stupid are they going to feel when they find out Raizo was the traitor because he was offered a free go at Komurasaki once a month?

>in the novel Don Quixote is delusional and thinks the windmills are giants
>Doffy cuts Oars Jr's foot in the war in a malicious act
>Oars' ancestor had the epiphets "continent puller" and..."devil"
>Doffy was brought up to think the Ds are the natural enemy of God
>there's some relation between the Will of D and giants that we don't know yet
>Luffy, representing the windmills, is not what Doffy assumes him to be

Bros how does all that information tie into ?

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that one panel is better

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What if One Piece is in space?

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>listen to it
What do you think “it,” is?
I’d say it’s a spirit in the stone. It may have different info than the stone itself.
“hearing” the inscription itself doesn’t make sense.

You misinterpreted it. Roger came to realize the true meaning of what was written on the poneglyphs once he reached the end of the New World, not that he didn't know what they were until he reached the endpoint.

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It could be, or it could be at the center of the earth, going straight down from reverse mountain. Or it could be upside down under reverse mountain, and if you flip reverse mountain upside down, Raftel will be right side up.

The moon is called Birka, not Laugh Tale.

Roger sailed around the grand line twice.

...

That's the same thing really

Stop being a complete retard. Roger didn't sail around the world twice.

>i-it didn't happen because I don't like it!!
Stop crying, it's in the manga

Except it isn't. You're probably the same dumbass that kept saying Teach was two people because of this page when they were referring to teach's group of pirates.

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If you can't read then I can't help you

He did, re-read the chapter. Inu and Neko talk about visiting Fishman Island (and Skypiea, but that one's debatable.) That isn't be possible if Roger didn't backtrack.

Troll elsewhere Vivifaggot. Boa is 100 times the woman Vivi is. An Empress does not concern herself with the opinions of princesses

Unless you're BLACK, a FISH-MAN or possess a BIG CYBORG COCK, Robin isn't interested in you

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>roger learned about poneglyphs on the last island and then started a new adventure
>but you guys don't need to do it because you already know about the poneglyphs
What is so difficult to understand about this?

>Inu and Neko talk about visiting Fishman Island (and Skypiea, but that one's debatable.) That isn't be possible if Roger didn't backtrack.
Read the chapter again.
That was with whitebeard's group and Oden met Roget at sea during that time. Kinemon met Roger when he landed in Wano with Oden.

>>>>the joke
(your head)

this is what carrotfags unironically believe

I got the joke.
That's why I was laughing at (You), the anticarrotfag

ah, so this is the kind of smug delusion that you people have

The "joke" is you, in case your dense ass didn't get it.

Frankys head

Maybe moeshit is more your speed

It’s really the only ship that’s plausible besides chopper and that mink girl

Enel is a jobber that got lucky and ate one of the most powerful DFs in the series