I'm reading through the LNs, right now in the middle of VS Imaginator Part 1 and I think that the LN readers overplayed the importance of the things the anime cut out. So far the only gripes I can find comparing the anime and LNs are some pointless changes like leaving out Kei standing off against Masami with Nagi's stun baton or Echoes return beam being a lot weaker than how it's described in the book. In the VS Imaginator arc what I didn't like is that they shortened the scene with Suiko and her friend and that they made Jin's treatment of the thugs in the alley more justified. But besides that the 2019 anime still feels faithful to its source material, more faithful than legit shit adaptations like Tokyo Ghoul, Berserk(2017), etc. Kamishiro's side boyfriend added nothing to the first novel besides development for her and some adult Touka bits and his role was served perfectly well by Kamishiro herself in ep 2 in her conversation with Nagi. Really what the show needed was a few more eps to expand the first arc so that it wouldn't be the main rough spot of the show. But in spite of that I really liked the new adaptation and I'm enjoying the novels and they co-exist perfectly as two different canons in my mind.
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Most of us think anime was fine aside from the first arc.
Also s2 never
More translated books never
An adaption can never measure up to what you imagine while reading the books, I found the anime perfectly fine.
Just a shame we'll never get more books.
Also at the same time sad and glad they skipped vol 4
eh, the 90s anime was better.
she cute.....
>the 2019 anime still feels faithful to its source material
They cut I Wish You Heaven. The 2019 adaptation is soulless, surprising given the staff, but soulless nonetheless. If you think it was a faithful adaptation, you're probably a teenager who wants to get straight to the action from the team who brought you OPM, everything which made the OG emotional and healthy with social and political commentary notwithstanding.
...which I suppose isn't a problem. There's a reason they cut I Wish You Heaven and even the entire In The Mirror novel and went directly into At Dawn to save Overdrive for the finale; their target audience wasn't the light novel's target audience, it was kids and teens (likely like yourself) who just like the idea of a dark urban fantasy without having a single care for the beating heart behind it.
And the character designs are criminal.[spoiler/]
Boogie's kinda cute, in a goofy poofy way.
>liking unfaithful character designs
Adaptation was worth it for Aoi Yuuki alone.
This. I cannot believe how butchered the adaptation was given Madhouse's only competent team being responsible for it. There's so much effort put into scenes you wouldn't put effort into if you didn't are about the source material, so why was the script so wrong in every way?
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It was great as a tone piece, but the narrative wasn't really there. Granted, it was an anime original story, so it's not like they were trying to progress the story, but the theming wasn't strong enough to hold the entire show.
>he prefers the old character designs
At some point your taste is just wrong.
Also King of Distortion is the far better ending point than At Dawn
Phantomfags are old, dumb and useless faggots.
They didn't even translate a thing. So much for being fans.
?? I was complaining about the character designs. They look like ass. I said they're "criminal." Just so you know, criminal things are usually considered negative.
>muh soulless
Good joke
Better than the long awaited flashback which brings a finalizing, cathartic end to both Suema and Nagi's character arcs and answers all the fans questions about the origin of Suema's obsession and Nagi and Boogiepop's relationship after years of slow teasing???
Yeah, remember what I said about being a teenager only wanting action?
>he doesn't know about the designs
Suspicious
I mean, I just use it as a dumb buzzword, but you get the point.
Soulless = They didn't care about the facets of the source material most pivotal to what made it what it was and just adapted what they thought was cool/what would sell.
>implying 2019 was made for shounenfags and they would last for more than a few episodes
Pretty much this
It’s a miracle that Zooragi wasn’t in CGI
They even got his two form mechanics right iirc
>The 2019 adaptation is soulless, surprising given the staff,
On the contrary from the character animation to the soundtrack to the direction of certain scenes I would say that the new one is full of "soul".
>everything which made the OG emotional and healthy with social and political commentary notwithstanding
That's in the 2019 anime as well just delivered with more subtlety.
>Better than the long awaited flashback which brings a finalizing, cathartic end to both Suema and Nagi's character arcs and answers all the fans questions about the origin of Suema's obsession and Nagi and Boogiepop's relationship after years of slow teasing???
The way I see it is At Dawn in the anime is the conclusion to Nagi's arc while King of Distortion's wraps up this series by tying back to the first arc, they compliment each other perfectly that way.
>madhouse will most likely make overlord 4 and not boogiepop season 2
Why do we always get 'experts' that somehow missed things other fans already know about?
Also boogiepop fanarts died again I think.
The action has nothing to do with it, you dimwit. Overdrive is the best stopping point because Boogie gets focus. In at Down he barely appears.
Suema and Nagi are okay, but people watched it for Boogie.
Not completely
They are a bit slow
Fortissimo should be on the left
jin-niisan did nothing wrong
Next season for 40th anniversary
I honestly prefer no-sash Boogiepop, but for fun here's 2019 Boogiepop with it
>no-sash Boogiepop
Imagine my surprise when I learned that the sash and the chains were a lie. Were the belts a lie too?
>He was shorter than me and dressed in a long, black cape with a collar that wrapped around him like a great coat, and a black hat like a shrunken pipe or a top hat without a brim. The hat was a size too big for his head, and half covered his eyes.
>On the hat and cape bits of metal gleamed, like rivets or some sort of badge, sewn along the hem. It gave off the impression of armor.
Another case of dishonesty, unfortunately
>boogie was just large ass black pipe
Madhouse were true visionaries
How come there isn't even a fan translation of the series?
10/10 episode
Will Suema become the final boss?
10/10 ep
10/10 arc
9/10 anime
11/10 Shinigami
She is next big boss
I've heard there's work being done
Where?
>long awaited flashback [...] after years of slow teasing
At Dawn was published only 15 months after Others. Stop pretending you know anything at all when you can't even read a wikipedia article.
I really liked the OG anime even though I have heard it is very different than the new anime and LN, is the newest anime worth watching?
Somewhere on Reddit or Discord
Yes, it's very good.
So much this, upvoted
translation never
He now gathers mpls and organizes an influential anti-towa group.
Based
I feel like the only scene that comes close to justifying the adaption is the confrontation between Kei, Shiro, and Boogie in the last episode. The expressions, voicework, and OST really made it stand out, but even that scene seemed weakened for the ways it deviated from the source.
In the LN, Shiro draws them into an illusion in which they are on two opposing cliffs separated by a chasm. The symbolism should be obvious, he is cutting himself off from them. Boogie then walks out over the chasm despite being warned about any damage being real. Again, the emotion behind the action should be clear.
The anime's floating over the city substitute looks nice and Shiro's fall was great, but I can't help feeling that it would have been better to follow the LN here.
Over all, the adaption was decent, barring the embarrassing fuckup of the first volume, but filled with deviations that brought it down (cutting "present" Nagi storyline from At Dawn) and missed opportunities to improve on weaknesses of the LN (the climax of VS Imaginator is a clusterfuck and several characters were underdeveloped compared to that fat bastard).
I like to delude myself into believing that they skipped In the Mirror so that it could be adapted as an OVA. It makes a great stand alone story and the hyper violence would get axed from a TV release.
My only complain is that when Touka met Scarecrow in the backyard of the crematory, the adaptation didn't mention Touka was there because the funeral of a relative of hers was taking place there. In the novel that was a detail that stood out to me because it meant Touka had being surrounded by death that day, and I personally think that's what drew her over the edge and gave birth to Boogiepop.
I’ve finished reading that some days ago
Sad they didn’t adapt it but I understand why they didn’t
Snow melts, just letting you guys know.
Based, imaginefags btfo
>yet Suiko still won in the end
How can they possibly recover?
It’s not fair ;_;
Did he finally got laid in later novels or not
D-delete
Season 2 when
>More translated books never
>Just a shame we'll never get more books.
It still hurts that the omnibus editions hardly sold so Seven Seas isn't looking at any more. The translator has openly said on twitter that he wants to do more.
It’s weird because I see a lot of people requesting more on twitter
Looks like Seven seas only cares about Yuri and isekai now
It's a company, if it doesn't sell enough they won't put out more.
It's a sad reality.
>hardly sold
Nah, Seven Seas just don't care. They probably don't have a plan to get more from the beginning.
Yes I'm sure it made them a lot of money and they just decided to not make more money by continuing the tl
if it melts, it just has to snow some more
Definitely a masterpiece. I personally think Peppermint Wizard is one of the greatest novels written in Japanese in the late 90s, regardless of genre.
I’ve seen a lot of people in Japan that praise it as well, I wish I could read it
Is there some boogie screentime
Eventually
It's fucked how both the official translations and the anime stop at the same point makes completed rewatches even more painful since it becomes a loop unless you know moonrunes
Translate it then, user-sama.
Hey at least there's in the mirror
Unfortunately, his/her role is small.
In a nutshell, the story focuses on the glory and failure of an innocent upstart and it is, I guess, a type of story that Americans might like, although maybe somewhat prejudiced.
I could say its the boogiepop version of Great Gatsby.
I will buy english version soon, although have original novels. so is that okay?
It sounds so cool
This
Volume 7+ translations never
Side series translations never
Touka a cute. CUTE!
It’s ok, he protected this smile
Would one have to become an enemy of the World just to get more translated material?
She is.
Novel Touka>And Others Touka>Phantom Touka
IMAGINE
Beat is so fun and worth reading, but Walpurgis is really trash.
Decadent Black is not bad.
Touka herself(not boogiepop) acts more actively than the other volumes.
Her character is as unique as reaper.
they care about things that sell. isekai sells. romcoms sell, etc. if it sold well, why wouldn't they make more?
y-yeah haha companies don't care about money.
What about super chuuni looking series Emperoider?
>Her character is as unique as reaper.
Nice, how weird was she?
>Touka herself(not boogiepop) acts more actively than the other volumes.
AHHH I WANT IT
Cute bubble
Are there instances where Boogie is cautious and cannot just cut whatever threat he caought up with?
Company execs make bone-headed decisions all the time, leaving money on the table through their lack of common sense. The Boogiepop brand can't grow if they stopped translating the books, and the fact that people are requesting more every time they do a survey shows that there's demand.
Emperoider is okay, but actually it has little to do with the boogiepop series. or rather, I would call it the spin-off from Night Watch series and The Dance with Pluto and the Beast.
>Nice, how weird was she?
She is unusually active in matters related to Takeda.
Could you describe the plots of these books, I know Emperoider is the MPLS academy one but I'm curious about the events that take place
So what kind of things did Touka do? You can't just tease me like this user. Spoil me.
For old man
Sorry.
In my poor English, it's difficult to summarise the plot because it's cross-linked with kadono's various works and so complicated.
Although heard someone called it "super kadono wars", I too think it is precise expression.
One thing I can say for sure is that it requires much prior knowledge of many kadono's works besides the boogiepop series.
This, I am too curious now
how is the OP so good lads
I don’t know, but I never skipped it
Same with the ED, they somehow fit each other so well
It's cool, your english is good, user. Thanks for the answer, sounds like it's a crossover-type spin-off with lots of callbacks.
Because Myth and Roid, and it's the perfect op for a series like Boogiepop but the ED is better imo, max comfy.
you fucking nailed it.
the biggest drop off for me was the non existance atmosphere and character design, it looks like generic shit and boogiepop is far from it, but I guess they truly wanted the edgy kids as audience
I didn't read LN but I loved 2019 anime adaption.
I did read LN and I loved 2019 adaptation.
Reminder, don't reply to obvious bait
>I didn't read LN but I loved 2019 anime adaption.
Same, it's AOTY
Touka stalked takeda with her stalker.
Holy shit really? Why? Was he cheating or something
Elaborate. Also Touka had a stalker?
That scene was good
I remember that it was caused by a trivial trouble between lovers, but there was a synthetic woman who seduced Takeda.
To be precise, an swapped stalker(girl). Her original stalker(boy) is stalking another person(main villain).
This is kinda complicated setting too.
>a trivial trouble between lovers, but there was a synthetic woman who seduced Takeda.
This sounds potentially hilarious and massively entertaining, it would be made better if Takeda got seduced on orders from the Towa Org.
>It was then that I finally got a clear look at his face.
>Words can’t begin to do justice to the shock I felt at that moment.
>Perhaps the best example I can give is to describe it like one of these nopperabou ghost stories – you expect a faceless ghost, but instead, the ghost looks just like you. At first you just don’t get it, but then you do, and it totally freaks you out.
>I stared at him, eyes wide open and mouth agape.
>But for him, I seemed to be little more than another face in the crowd, and he soon shifted his glare to the man next to me.
Yep, the anime really captured Keiji's shock
>Boogiepop made a strange expression. Beneath the low brim of his hat, his left eye narrowed and the right side of his mouth twisted upwards. It was a very asymmetrical expression that Touka herself would never make.
>Later, I wondered if that expression was a strained sort of grin, but at the time, it baffled me. It was a sort of grin that seemed both sarcastic and somewhat diabolical at the same time.
>I never did see him smile, though.
>but there was a synthetic woman who seduced Takeda.
Holy shit I want to read it
Forgot pic. Smug girls are the craze right now, who cares about some shitty novel written 20 years ago? Nips did because the anime was a complete flop
>but there was a synthetic woman who seduced Takeda.
Is takeda a chad?
Is that the volume where Towa Org tried to recruit Takeda?
If my memory is correct, the synthetic woman (who was one of clients of his job in public) personally evaluated his abilities, so she tried to recruit him for towa.
Of course, she failed and Takeda wasn't informed about the Towa Organization after all.
You user-kuns seem to be so curious about takeda, but his episode wasn't that important in Decadent Black, unfortunately.
The main protagonist was iincho.
>It was a sort of grin that seemed both sarcastic and somewhat diabolical at the same time
That is just describing smug.
IMAGINE
Thanks for the information kind user did boogie ever get a lot of screentime in later novels? like in king of distortion
What’s her problem?
Even though Takeda's a dog for what he did to Kei, I'm proud of my boy for resisting the temptation of the choice robot puss Unlike a certain Japanese Batman
agreed. The character designs and "sleek" look really fucked this up
That was an exception.
I don't think there were any arcs that boogie got a lot of screentime as in king of distortion.
So Touka has stalkers?
I am more interested in Touka shenanigans
I'd IMAGINE the cheeky loli version
Yes, though his true target is boogie.
Sorry, I'm gonna go to bed. It's midnight in Japan right now.
If I'm lucky enough to see another boogie thread, I'll stop by.
Good night user-kun
Is that official? holy shit
Mhmm
lewd bubble
>VS Imaginator Part VI "The Satanic Majesty"
Based Suiko
I M A G I N E
M
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>Part VI
Just end it all, bros
I figured you were in Japan, Godspeed based Nippon-user
>VS Imaginator Part VI
>VI
HOW DOES SHE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
April comes around every year
>boogiepop aired during winter
>it actually snowed in Japan
Based
Damn, this is some movie-tier OST
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Going from 2019 to Phantom, I noticed that Phantom was much better at ambiance, directing, and music, but that's basically it. The animation was really poor and worse than 2019, with the shot of Boogiepop Phantom walking up the stairs after autismo girl being horribly off model. Even so, both have their place and shouldn't be compared as doing the same thing because they're not.
>better directing
>better music
But that's wrong
>they kept going on with the snow in april bit
>where i live it snows through june
such is life etc
how are the LN? are the moon versions relatively easy for a pleb with less than 2000 kanji? warawanai is one of the few anime to come out recently that I've been impressed by.
In most cases you could learn nip faster than it takes for translations.
What's hat kid doing all grown up?
>how are the LNs
Unironically god tier, if you liked the anime then you’ll love them
Really directing and atmosphere are the only things Phantom has over Boogiepop And Others. Both soundtracks are superb but the character designs, animation, and the fact that 2019 is literally canon puts it above Phantom
They're good, very light reading, you can finish one book in an afternoon. I would wait for the user who read them to come back, or make a thread later for it.
well, alright. downloading now, I'll try them out. hopefully the nip isn't too hard. feels like there's a huge leap from manga to anything in actual prose format.
>More translated books never
>have to learn an entire new language just to conduct my hobby in peace from dropped translation projects
such suffering.
bubble > imaginator > fire witch > pigeon > president
You forgot someone
bubble > imaginator > fire witch > pigeon > president > manticore
Bubble > Imaginator > Fire Witch > Human Toilet-chan > President > Manticore > Fear Ghoul > shit >>> Pigeon
such a shitty adaptation i wish they never tried
boogiepop DOESNT smile
boogiepop DOESNT laugh
knk is a better boogiepop anime
read the novels
>human toilet-Chan
DELETE
>nasu
No
Did nothing wrong
Imagine user. IMAGINE!
I want to hug and fug the smug.
No
>faggot gets electrocuted and becomes straight
How did madhouse get away with this
But user he fucked a man-eater
They truly are madhouse
The 90s were truly a different era
God I love boogiepop.
Are there any other cool villain names from the series?