Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files

The second one kind of reminds me of Manaka's dress. I feel like I've seen the first one in something Type-Moon related before.

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Crazy to think Best Girl this season is a mage loli but here we are

>Medea finds her in a paradise with Saber, Saber Lily, Saber Alter, Santa Alter, Summer Saber, Maid Alter, Mysterious Heroine X Alter and Gray
How does she survive?

So you're saying she's at Chaldeas?

Fuck you. I don't even half the majority of those in my Chaldea.

I almost only have welfare saberfaces. Got a vanilla Nero and Lancer Alter. And MHX.

>Saber overdose

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>Medea tries to monopolize Saber Lily
>Mordred won't stand for it

Gray is so cute and pretty.

So on the actual content, it's finally going to start adapting LN content. Isn't this kind of rushed though? It's already episode 7, and they need to adapt two volumes.

How many episodes are left?

RAVE...
CRAVE...
DEPRAVE...
GRAVE FOR (YOU)

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7 episodes

>best girl
>no Luvia

Tell me she want waver babies.
Please.

>that scene in the bedroom

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She might just see him as a dad. She's, like, what, fourteen?

She's a TM prime loli.

She sure doesn't see him as a dad, their first interaction was her kidnapping then blackmailing him

Oh, probably enough then. Thought it was going to be a 12 episode show.

Fucking hell, that smug is so smug that it's almost looping around.

he's talking of grey

>Onichan, wanna fug?
>Uh?
>I mean your magus genes are shit but i'd fug you , we can make a smart child like you, So lets FUG
>NO , Now lemme act autistically after i throw you this pillow and bail out of the room couse i'm gay for a dead man
>Aw Geee, guess i'll pretend it was a joke and pull back my tears, But Onichan, Basement is shit but these beds are nice, you sure you don't want to hop in with me and fug me while you enjoy the bed?
>No, Now be good gurl and listen to Saberface.

Jesus if this wasn't actually the best Typemoon Serie i'd fucking drop it.

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Some men prefer big meaty dicks.

She has at least a crush on him

13 episodes + episode 0

Is Reines the smuggest character in the nasuverse?

>can't even get Waver to fuck her
She has no reason to be so smug.

Getting Waver to stick his dick in anything that isn't that cape turned cumrag is an impossible task for even the most attractive of women.

She looks cuter the more the seiba hair is obscured to make it not look like seiba hair.

>Why no, I will not impregnate my non-blood-related sister nor King Arthur's sexy descendant even though they are both basically begging for my cum

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Is there anyone in this thread who still actually believes that El Milo 2 has any interest in vaginas?

>14
Looks like JC is back on the menu boys

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Waver is a lost cause, more news at 11.

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If she pulls it off though (or would puts it in be a better phrase?), she'll have probably threaded the eye of the needle that Nasu said was the chance of a Sixth Magic being found.

The journey to getting Rooted is a long one for the magus, but the reward is immeasurable.

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Is there any relation between that weird girl with the eyepatch and Liz?

They just both have retarded goth loli fashion sense, I doubt there's anything else going on.
Inb4 she's a fucking Bathory descended or some shit.

Seriously, she was so thirsty it was unreal. Waver not hitting that is ridiculous.

Yeah, well, we all know why he didn't.

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I feel like Case Files has a number of flaws. It doesn't really have much worth as a detective series give that it's pretty unlikely that anyone can really gather all the clues together and solve the mystery on their own, so it lacks the "Hey reader/viewer, try to solve it as we go along!" factor. Motives are also hard to pinpoint because we seriously know almost nothing about the victims/perpetrators. And even if you're familiar with the universe, it's not like we could possibly guess that the Wild Hunt is involved. There really isn't a whole lot of intrigue.

Did you roll any summer servants in the ongoing event?

a whole bunch although I just wanted CEs
didn't get any CEs

It's more of a character/lore thing with a mystery flavor than an actual detective series. The reason to like it is for the cool magus shit and of course the top tier girls.

I'm in NA. Got Archuria (in the first 10-roll) while trying to NP2 ruler Martha who I had since last year.
Then did two 10-rolls for caster Umu and got NP2 guitarist Nobu. No event CEs though, except 3* Astolfos.

Not going to complain.

I got NP2 SurfMo as I wanted, but then also got summer umu and summer lolibaba. and not a single enkidu CE. kill me.

No, but I did roll Beautiful Johnny

Who is that?

Waver's butt only belongs to the king of conquerors.

Loli Da Vinci you barney

>playing gachashit

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>cool magus
>Protagonist is third-rate and can't do anything impressive beyond deductive reasoning
>His Watson is basically a dollar store Servant with a Noble Phantasm that we've already seen
>A lot of the bigger tricks are lamer versions of shit that Araya pulled off

About the only real new things are the rituals that utilize multiple magi.

You don't need to make it so obvious that you've never read any of the novels.

more Luvia when?

Yeah, I'm sure you know enough Japanese to have read all of them yourself.

I've read the first four and am on the fifth one right now. The first two have fan translations though.

Soon.

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I've got NP2 Archuria, Martha, Nero, Nobu and NP2 Fran.
That said, I'm not even playing the event itself, I can't be bothered and I need all the spare time I have to grind the fucking Valhalla collab in GFL.

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It's entirely Nasuverse fanservice and nothing more. All the appeal is in references to lore and seeing fan favorite characters animated.

Otherwise there's not much the show has to offer.

I agree. Trimmau is too cute.

The anime original part is basically fanservice sure. It's fun but nothing spectacular; I'll agree with that. The real plot kicks in next episode, so that's when you can actually start properly judging the adaptation.

This episode needed a scene where Luvia hires Rin to hand out tissues in front of the department store

rin being waver student is after ubw right?

Have they ever explained or touched on 1st and 4th True Magic or are they still in that "we just don't know" category?

Not just UBW but all routes though ?

Rin becomes a student at the Clock Tower after all three routes. However, Waver tells her that she'll never give her an ounce of tutelage. She's part of his department, but she's not exactly one of his students.

>Just rolled lolivinci and Nitocris with a single fucking ticket
Wait what. When did that become a thing?

Summer Helena. Wish I got Raikou too.

4th anniversary, you dummy, along with all those new bronze servants.

salty because gil?

Is it true that Luvia spreads rumors of Rin being a slut for old men so that she has zero willing suitors and therefore no choice but to accept Luvia as her husband?

Neat.

If the show's final episode is canon, then Rin probably doesn't know Waver for long. When Shirou makes the decision not to accept the Clock Tower's invitation, Rin decides to leave after around three years as well.

It's canon, but the tricky thing is it's only for sure canon to itself. That's how all TM shows work, Zero has so many inconsistencies it's technically not even a canon prequel to Stay Night.

Close enough. The question is whether Rin leaves the Clock Tower in the show's timeline as well. If it was written by Nasu, then she probably does. And at any rate, it'd be weird if Rin left Shirou just to be a mage on her own after everything that happened.

>she sees your dick

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Cute.

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Is this Olga's father?

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Waver is gay and devoted.

Could be Lorelei.

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Sucks to be a loser and not take a hint, Reines. Waver wins anyway.

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Just make sure you get Dorothy and Jill, they are OP.

It's a dude, user.

I already have Jill. I got Alma over Dorothy so far simply because hers was the only costume I got from the gatcha but I'll get Dorothy next.
Grinding for Sei and Stella is a fucking chore, though. Why would they make event dolls a random drop, it's such bullshit.

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How can you even tell? They're just wearing a suit, which isn't even that odd for Clock Tower mage girls who want to seem professional, just look at Bazett.

Too distracted in Chaldeas

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The body built is of a male. Why even assume Lorelei will appear, she didn't in the novels.

Well it is a grindan gaem. Sei took me 200 runs, though you can just deploy, run down and get left golyat, run back up and retreat for minimum cost. Not looking forward to grinding Stella.

>Those teenage/young adult Iskanders
Seems strange that those are just from that artist and yet it's probably the most accurate depiction based on historical statues and the like.

>just caught up to the manga
So is the Castle of Separation canon to the anime? I mean Adashino is dead, but Luvia apparently remembers the events at the castle. Maybe I'll go read the LN. What volume is the manga in relation to the LN?

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>The body built is of a male.
U wot
>Why even assume Lorelei will appear, she didn't in the novels.
Why would anyone in that circle appear at all. It's just the Lords, amongst which the Barthomeloi are included with Lorelei being the representative, so yes, she's bound to be there since last I checked she's still canon.

I believe they referred to the castle when Waver met Adashino again. Bitch is probably going to smugly show up at the end

Dunno why, but the fact that waver literally rejected a reines who literally threw her pussy at him... pisses me off immensely, just don't show me this kind of fanservice ! It gets ne livid, i mean if i was gay and sucked cocks daily i'd still want to fuck reines.

This is fucking absurd

>It's just the Lords,
Including Marisbury who has a design similar to that one? While Lorelei design is nothing like that one. I have no idea why you insist THAT one to be that bitch.

Waver's not a slut.

>I mean Adashino is dead
she actually isn't

Trimmau focused episode when? Trimmau goes full T-1000 when?

Castle Adra's entirety is volume 1 of the LN.

The pants, coat and hair don't match.

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Why is the mercury maid sentient?

Because Waver has done some really fucked up things to it

>It's just the Lords, amongst which the Barthomeloi are included with Lorelei being the representative
Lorelei is the head of the Barthomeloi who are in charge of Policies Department, which is not one of 12 Departments. For that image, it depends if it's after the Meluastea become the Lord of both Mineralogy + Archeology departments or not. If yes then maybe Lorelei is in that image, some people said she might be XII.

I would say that Marisbilly is at six.

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>barthomeloi
Imagine trying to say this aloud. You might accidentally say "Bartholomew" instead.

Sounds like a good way to get smacked with that riding crop.

Reminder that Shiki's probably killed more DAAs than this bitch. She'll be known as a second-rate vampire hunter forever.

Yeah, but they're mostly assist kills (e.g. Wallachia), assassinations (Louvre) or just because he was completely underestimated by his opponent (e.g. Nero and Roa).
Lorelei goes out of her way to fight them head-on at their full power because she takes it personally.

Nigga that's the guy that summons Caster and gets killed by her. The one that uses curses to turn slave kids into mana.

Alexander is a servant though. The difference between Alexander and Iskander is that Alexander comes from before he reaches Persia, whereas Iskander is after he takes the Persian name.

I meant the in-between two. Left-most is servant Alex, the others are just in-between ones which I'm pretty sure are artist-original designs.

I rewatched this scene and it was meant to be Kayneth.

She brought a battalion with her. She's too slow. And assassinations are perfectly valid. What matters are results.

He does look like Atrum, but he really has no business being there.

Contextually it doesn't really matter in Fate. Human Order is strong in Fate which is why servants exist, why the counter guardians exist, why archetypes don't exist, and why DAAs don't exist. FGO and Strange Fake are the only places where both Tsukihime's True Ancestors and Fate's Human Order exist simultaneously and why Nasu classifies them as strange universes. So by default pretty much everyone is good at vampire hunting in Fate because no vampires ever get strong enough to be more than a zombie plague.

Zelretch is the only exception to the no DAA rule because he has Second Magic.

They probably come from rejected designs for FGO. They usually show them off at Fate Fes. That's where a lot of the alternate Solomon designs come from, same with a lot of the alternate Shuten designs.

How volumes are translated? Looking at BL, there's only volume 1 and 2 there

And a half of the 3rd. That's it for now.

I thought only the 27 DAAs are Tsukihime worldline-exclusive while True Ancestors are still a thing in Fate worldlines as well ? Like Rani mentioned True Ancestors in Extra (which she was taught by her creator). Also Zepia becomes NoW in FSF but he stays with Atlas in FGO so i think those timelines are not really similar to each other.

>She brought a battalion with her. She's too slow.
Bounded Fields suck for anyone who doesn't have the amazing convenience of one of the rarest ME types in history. Also magecraft is slow for anyone who doesn't speak Divine Words.
>And assassinations are perfectly valid. What matters are results.
Perhaps, but Shiki has the support of fucking Arc and Ciel, two of the most dangerous vampire killers in the world (and occasionally people like Sion and fucking Merem), as well as inherently having Nanya killing skills and the god damn MEoDP. Lorelei may have some of the best magus qualities in the world and her own personal mage battalion but Shiki's vampire killing speccs and support network are ludicrous for someone who basically didn't have to train or work for any of them.

Primate Murder and ORT are both in FGO.

Zelretch is watching Strange Fake because the Dead Apostles want the Grail to wake up ORT, but Jester has autism and found out he likes seeing Fake Assassin suffer more than waking up the spider because she's beautiful when she's in agony.

Moon Cell is weird because it can kind of see other timelines, but it can't actually coexist with True Ancestors because it would overlap with the Crimson Moon. More or less, if I remember correctly, Moon Cell actually knows the conditions where its own universe would break down if something exists alongside itself.

>Primate Murder and ORT are both in FGO.
Not exactly. Fou will never become PM and ORT hasn't even cropped up yet, and even if it does its just an Aristoteles which isn't really anything to do with the DAA, it only got added to the list as a technicality.

Nasu himself classified both FGO and SF as strange universes where both Tsuki shit and Human Order shit exist together though so it doesn't really matter unless he changes his mind about it.

>Primate Murder and ORT are both in FGO.
No ? As far as i remember ORT hasn't even been brought up in FGO yet and Fou will not become Primate Murder in this timeline as mentioned in Time Temple.
Also ORT can exist in Fate worlds without being a part of 27 DAAs just like Zepia, no ?

They're literally in ORTs backyard right now in the story. Unless they out of left field turn Mash into a beast for some weird "my kouhai is evil oh no" story it's going to be ORT.

>Nasu himself classified FGO as strange universes where both Tsuki shit and Human Order shit exist together
Citation?

>Unless they out of left field turn Mash into a beast for some weird "my kouhai is evil oh no" story
I'm kind of amazed that you think they wouldn't do something like that.

>Evil mash
>Just wants to fuck senpai all day while ignoring the world(s) ending.

She's also black because reasons.

3 > 4 > 1 = 2

Flat keeps fucking with it. He's the reason why it gets Terminator tendencies. Also why it did wrestling commentary the new episode.

I just finished the main story of that.
Fuck the final stage

Current episode namedrops it. Also the TL's rationale in the latest chapter for the correct tl being Peeling and not separation is pretty compelling.

It really sucks. Having to clear it twice to get Jill and then grind it for Stella is horrific.

>story it's going to be ORT.
what? The antagonist is clearly Marisbury. The fuck has ORT do with anything, if it appears, he'll be filler.

Not like there's any competition

>Unless they out of left field turn Mash into a beast for some weird "my kouhai is evil oh no" story it's going to be ORT.
Bro, the future disappeared in the first place because of something introduced in Singularity F.
Go and re-read/watch, lad, there's no Goetia ring in the sky, and we're told the cause for that shit was Seraphics, another of the organizations run by Moneybill, and presently the ones undertaking and carrying out the ploys of this mysterious boss are the crypters Moneybills picked.

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She doesn't paint her nails does she?

I got NP2 archuria and stopped even though I wanted Marie and Martha. I have to roll for memelin again in a few months.

That was about Strange Fake, not FGO

She was trolling him. She knows he's gay.

I don't see the idol witch.

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3rd Iskandar is pretty cool here.

She might look very different all these years later or not be a Lord in the first place.

What is the point of this character

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Neither of them are legal

Top anime of the season.

Magnificent.

I don't get it, how does wrestling help with magecraft?

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Because sometimes you just have to break some heads the old fashioned way.

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Despite the mischievous smug and the fact that her real brother I was a bastard, she seems to be an incredibly decent person.

Supposedly she's more important in the coming episodes.

>Implying magi care about muggle laws
They don't even care about muggle lives.

Somebody please tell me hirame_sa’s Reines doujin will be scanned.

The Tohsaka practiced martial arts because of Nagato's weird principle that it would somehow lead to the Root.
The Edelfelts just like pro-wrestling or something. Maybe.

I stand by my theory that one of the Edelfelt sisters in the third war NTR'd the other, and that pursuing pro-wrestling is a way to fight against the Tohsaka's martial arts.

>trust noone not even yourself

>not being a muscle wizard

Cute Olga

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Oh a Typemoon anime that's not about Holy Grail War. Finally no Sabe... God damn it.

Best class.

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Prisma is the best fateshit. This one is second best, but solely due to Reines, otherwise I'd name Zero in its place.

They will never see me coming

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I wanna fuck Iskander and get fucked by Alexander

>ywn lick her feet

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God I wish that were me

>voiced by Itsuki/Hestia/Rem

Why does she always voice worst girl?

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>Exposition! exposition! "tell, don't show"
>Also ridiculous dialogues full of metaphors about feelings to try to appear deeper.

Incredibly, Smuggest best girl of Melloi has so far been quite active with actions. I have the feeling that the story is managed a little better in Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files, despite being, for the most part, with the same probem with magic bubbles that have no meaning and the viewer cannot understand. Maybe it's that I like the characters more.

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>Reines worst girl

but, user, until now she has been spectacular.

LNfags, does Bazett ever appear in the story?

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She only got namedropped though

>Adashino is dead
no she isn't

Literally anything can lead to the Root though. Not just magical research.

Nobu.

I also got Fran and Helena, who I didn't want. Gonna try one last roll for Raiko or Alter in a couple days.

Scandinavian gorilla best girl

Including inbreeding between people with supernatural DID.

The first novel was pretty shit, though.

Do you think one sister willingly went to the Tohsakas or was she raped?

In Apocryoha we know Tokiomi gave Sakura to their "relatives in Finland".
In the Zero novel Tokiomi says Rin looks a lot like his own mother, what implies they lived together as a family.

Tohsaka dick too good huh.

"AHHH, my musky eyes!"

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>FGO named the Jew

Nice.

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>All the cool kids get insta-death eyes or at least mind-control eyes or something similarly useful or badass
>You get ME that just give you hyper-conjunctivitis and set on fucking fire in the presence of magecraft
Man, Reines got fucking shafted.

BUILT for Irish cock

She doesn’t like it any more than you do, believe me

A good oni-chan would make a plush of himself and give it to his imouto. That includes the smell of cigarettes.

Reines's Mystic Eyes are way better than average though, she just needs to learn to use them in conjunction with her magecraft. They allow her unparalleled control over mana.

>They allow her unparalleled control over mana.
Over what mana? Od, prana? Her own, other magi within a certain range? That could mean all sorts of things. I mean, could she go full Depletion Garden with that shit? Because that would be nuts.

Her Od. Sorry, just used to using the simpler terms on Yea Forums nowadays

Waver is literally gay.

That seems considerably less useful. Most magi can manipulate their own Od, surely? Even Shirou could do it, if only very poorly most of the time. What does having perfect control really do that not-quite-perfect control couldn't? Is this like Aoko's hyper-efficient circuit thing?

> Waver is entirely uninterested in women and is unambiguously gay. Which Adashino links to his obsession with reuniting with Iskandar. In the anime, Melvin wonders if he lost his virginity during Zero (i.e., thanks to Iskandar), which a embarrassed Waver angrily denies; when Reines asks him if he's a virgin three years later, his response is an annoyed "who cares?".

DROPPED!

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yeah both 5* with 216 quartz

reminds me of Liz

Gray is too cute. Just her voice makes me melt

>he didn't know

Cute Reines and Gray

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She's busy getting ready for going to Fuyuki and getting shanked.

What if Waver had summoned Nobunaga instead?

I like Case Files threads.

React poorly to Nobbu's idea of turning the grail into a bomb.

Does the bomb explode into Mini Nobus?

Edelfelts are mage hunters aren't they?

I mean, it makes her almost unbeatable against normal mages in normal mage circumstances. It's just that Waver's cases always involve the weird shit that gets her allergies going.

>that thousand-yard stare on Add's face

Poor Kay

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Who cares about "normal mages"? The majority of mages in the franchise are abnormal as fuck.

He would have fucking won since Nobu has territory and fame advantage in Japan. Like, he's one of the greatest and most controversial anti-heroes of the nation. Ultimately, she would have taught Waver most of the same lessons Iskandar did though albeit with a more individualistic and megalomaniacal bent. Whether she would still use the Angra grail or not (in her original story, she sacrifices her life to help Okita stop the empowered Maxwell's Demons from using HGW energy to ravage the world, but that's only because she acknowledged her as the superior hero) is up for debate.

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She probably would have lost to Gilgamesh or Saber though. She just can't compete in terms of sheer firepower. She has an affinity-advantage against Servants with large amounts of mystery, but she can't really defend against Gate of Babylon, Enuma Elish or Excalibur.

Also, I'd imagine Waver would probably drink way more heavily if he'd met Nobunaga.

I want Nobu to geek out over meeting a modern Occidental man only to be initially turned off by how mediocre, dull, and ungentlemanly Waver is:

"You're the worst white man, ever!"

You think she'll let him being gay stop her from raping him?

Waver only fucks guys.

So Waver became a wizard.

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She sees your dick

Can i hope for some parallel universe where waver fight in another grail war?

He apparently fought in one of the knockoff wars in the Apocrypha timeline, if that counts.

Can someone dumb down the magic system for me? I understand that the spells and rituals can have a wide variety of negative/positive effects depending on the intention and execution and that interpetation also matters, like Luvia's money sucking statue doesnt only trap money but all sorts of fortune which became really strong thanks to Luvia going overboard. But how does that all work in a more general sense?

I want Nobu to go a gun range.

>not wanting her to break free from her curse, if only symbolically
kys you monster!

>But how does that all work in a more general sense?
Things work with mystery as its foundation. The less people know about a particular magecraft, the stronger it is - this is why magi hide their secrets from each other, and this is why Waver is hated by them, since he has a tendency to destroy their secrets in front of everybody during his detective explanations.
But paradoxiacally, these mysterious foundations must also have a widespread basis for them to be able to serve as a basis to begin with. You can't just make up some bullshit that only you know about, it must be things like angels (and esoteric stuff associated with them), myths, occult and so on.
That's the general gist of it. How it works on individual cases is up to the writer, and here in Case Files the occult stuff that actually exists here irl was used for it.

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Wait, is Gray going to grow up into a massive titty monster like Lancer Artoria?

Did he get assassin ganked?

Depends on if her body has changed in a way that will make her grow like Artoria would. But I'd expect at least MHXX.

Gray will literally become Lancer Seiba

Hot

What is this "whydunit" stuff?

Thanks now I want Gray dressed like Sonia.

As an example, the field of human imitation (puppets, homunculi and stuff) has declined because of how much is now known about the human body by the normalfags, leaving very little mystery to work with there. Only guys like Touko Aozaki or the Einzberns can still pull it off because of their sheer autism on the subject.

Why do I find her sexy?

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Why does she hold her hands like that?

waver read a mystery novel one time

She can do whatever she feels like but what she wants, to take dick 24/7. This bleeds into her mannerisms and creates a palpable aura of lust.

I bet the person who stole it will use the rag to get his dick

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Child bearing hips. Fit for breeding.

It would go horribly wrong.

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God how I hate FGOfags

One day he'll get it right.

Hate is a strong word.

Ha, I just realized why Waver likes cigars.

It would be super kino if Waver unwittingly went down the path of his predecessor, Kayneth, and tried to rope Gray into tanking the majority of the mana requirements only for this to happen.

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Edison > Magic

It's canon.

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I want to kiss him.

Strange Fake already kinda had kino with Flatt "stealing" Waver's catalyst and running off to the war. I certainly wouldn't mind Waver pulling a Sola-Ui

Are you new? They have been one of the franchise signature couples way before the anime.

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There's an official 4koma he and Iskandar had sex during Zero (this was published when the CD drama got out).

Deconstruction of the harem MC.
>Why isn't he fucking them? Is he a faggot?
"Yes."

Why did it have to remain an April Fool's event? The premise was fucking hilarious, speically the El melloi family and NEET Gil

>Tesla >> Edison > Magic
Fixed

you are one hella of a lucky user

No it isn't. You take that back.

Her eyes allow inhuman level of precision with magecraft. Waver said in the novels that her eyes alone make her worthy of Kayneth's lord spot.

She also defeated Kiritsugu in FGO.

Is this a fellatio joke or a cake joke?

There's an one-shot manga

Both

Oh shit it's the D-Frag guy.

>Narita dog
Bravo.

Oh my fucking god.

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I just realized there needs to be a version of this with Reines and Waver.

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I have no words.

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>Add/Kay actually calls Artoria Wart
Nice.

It also works for Gray and Yvette, all the female students really.

Quads can't be wrong, after all [insert autistic rant about the significance of the number 7 through history and thaumaturgy]

Based and magicaldectivepilled.

>all the female students really+Flat

Flat is justice!

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Ridiculous.

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Wouldn’t it be funny if he summoned a Rider, but it was Reines, hahaha

If Flat is really connected to the Root, is it possible for him to be as busted and stupid as Manaka and Ryougi?

Slut

>Medb-Reines demi-servant

>he doesn't know

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When the Fate/strange fake event happens after the series is finally finished fifteen years from now, what Pseudo-Servant would Flat be?

Flat the Ripper obviously, or do you expect Berserker Jack to be the spy watch?

I'm betting that he's an avatar of Azathoth or something like that.

But how would he transform into a scantily-dressed little girl for his Extra Attack if he's Flat?
......Ohhhh, I get it.

>the protag is surrounded by young blonde blue eyed girls thirsty for his dick. >but his life goal is reuniting with a muscly dude that railed him years ago.
Why would anyone greenlight this?

A lot of his shit really seems similar to what Manaka and Shiki have.

That's just how big TYPE-MOON is nowadays. Everyone wants a piece of that pie. I'm sure all the employees of the animation studio were scrambling to get a piece of that action.

I mean, root connection seems like the most reasonable explanation for that "something" he sees in everything around him. It has to be something universal, beyond mere mythologies because he sees it in every kind of magic and even in the air itself.

Still, other alternatives would be seeing the entirety of the reverse side of the world overlapped with the normal one, or some shit like perceiving Gaia itself.

His ridiculous potential as a magus seems pretty much in line with Manaka. His ability to see "it" is probably a Pure Eyes ability of some sort. Shiki's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception is something that she always had, but simply didn't awaken to. Flat's ability to see "it" is most likely something of that nature.

What's strange is his lack of functional knowledge. He tends to do things by instinct, but he doesn't have that sense of ominscience that Manaka and "Ryougi Shiki" have. Maybe the quality of his connection to the Root, if he has it, is of lesser quality than Manaka's. Manaka's own function as a terminal for the Root was inferior to Shiki's to begin with, since Manaka is limited by the number of her circuits. She can't function as an omnipotent wish granter the way "Shiki" can.

Perhaps it could be the case that he can "observe" the root, and thus apply what he "sees" to perform ordinary magecraft boosted by his outrageous circuits, but ultimately his brain isn't directly wired to Akasha.

So like, in terms that the scrubs at Modern Magecraft like to use, he can access part of the source code behind stuff that he perceives with his senses, rather than having cosmic google installed in his head.

>ridiculous potential as a magus
How ridiculous are we talking, exactly?

Almost like Waver is a character instead of a fucking self insert.

zelretch went "congratz that boy isn't a shitter"

Dude casually dispels multiple bounded fields like they're made of tissue. He's able to manipulate the flow of mana to bring about the desired result without the use of a magic circle, crest, incantations or anything. His circuits seem to be of amazing quality and his ability to manipulate spells is unparalleled.

His feats are so impressive, yet even he has no idea what he did and has a hard to performing the same feat twice. He's so incompetent that he's failed to graduate from El Mary II's course and is his oldest student at the age of 20.

What a loser

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Flat is retardedly good. Also just plain retarded.

>crest contains what even Zelretch considers "extreme" life preservation magecraft
>casually gets past 12 bounded fields for the lulz
>with zero real training and careless lack of dedication he is already stated to be on par with Brand rank, which the Association only gives to the best of the best, and could "easily" reach Grand
>has already attracted the attention of Zelretch
>out of nowhere achieved the 2000 year dream or whatever it is of his family
>summons a Servant without the ritual and entirely accidentally just by idly fucking with the mana in the area

If he had more than two brain cells he'd be a Grand good enough to make other Grands shit their pants in terror.

Isn't it great that he's retarded, though? He imprinted on Waver so he's pretty solidly Neutral Good. He's not Chaotic Evil like Manaka or True Neutral like Shiki. Better a good idiot than an evil genius.

You know for sure he's intentionally flunking it so Waver can't tell him to fuck off when he's not a student anymore, the guy is basically his dad at this point.

lmao I bet he bought a Dreamcast too.

He's pretty genuinely an idiot, though.

>Shiki became attached to Mikiya, and so she tries to live a proper life.
>Flat became attached to Waver, and so he tries to mimic him and lives a proper life.
>Manaka became attached to Arthur, and so she killed a fuckload of people and tried to destroy the world.

What went wrong?

At this point I'm pretty sure El melon has already tried pulling a Spongebob and tried to graduate Flat with a 10 word essay.
>WHAT I LEARNED IN MODERN MAGECRAFT IIIIIIS....

Someone tell her to change hairstyle.

Why wasn't this the OP image?

>"BIG BEN LONDON STAR IS BEST DUDE EVER AND ALSO HAS A HUGE PENIS THAT WOULD MAKE ANYONE ORGASM WHILE DOING A DOUBLE-V SIGN IN TWO SECONDS FLAT"
>Get it
>Did you see what I did there

Oh my god! It's Boy-2-Manaka

>m-muh self insert
shut the fuck up, nigger.
"it is a mans shame to refuse a meal set out before him"

Would Waver and Shirou get along?

Ah. Poor Jack. Shoulda shanked someone for a coat or two.

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Shirou would irritate him to no end but his domestic skills would be oddly impressive. Waver would acquire a new waifu in Shirou.

He's gotta be less infuriating than Flat. Plus Shirou would be a pretty excellent secret weapon given his ability to create and use Noble Phantasms. The main issue is that he can't allow anyone to see, since it'd instantly net him a Sealing Designation. Waver would probably keep the secret, though.

And I'd worry more about the possibility of Shirou attracting some of Waver's students. I mean, Luvia's already a given.

Reines doujins when?

Waver wouldn't hate him exactly, but he'd be quick to get sick of his attitude and try to cut contact. I sorta get the feeling Shirou would get nosy about him like the eternal whiteknight he is and meddle into his business, but Waver's probably safe from that fate since Shirou only becomes this involved with grills.

You just KNOW that Shirou will NTR Waver's harem away from him.

It's not NTR if Waver doesn't want them.

Is it ntr if Waver doesn't notice or care if it happens? Or do you mean Shirou summons and bangs Iskander and Alexander?

To be honest, if hypothetically Shirou did join the Association, Waver's department is really the only place he could possibly go. It's also where he'd be the safest, what with his Reality Marble.

Whatever, you guys know what I meant.

>Come into Case Files thread
>posts like this shit exist AND get replies

Fuck the state of modern Fate, man. Oh well, looking forward to the next episode and the proper start of Rail Zeppelin anyway.

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I mean, if anything Waver would probably be glad if Reines fell for another dude. No more "Hey faggot, wanna impregnate your little sister?".

>Reines: "Hey faggot, wanna commit adultery?"
>Waver: "ffs"

None of the ones going for Waver would like Shirou. To begin with, they like something Shirou lacks: a brain.

Luvia likes Shirou.

Shirou isn't someone who people fall for without reason. Saber doesn't even like him that way 99% of the time (only in Fate). The ones going after Waver is because he's a smart, hot teacher, none of that is Shirou's appeal.

Luvia isn't into Waver. She likes them dumb.

Grey likes Waver because he's kind and also hates her face. Reines likes him because he's completely different from the shady, selfish, manipulative adults around her.

Iskandar would probably like Shirou.
Iskandar might even like Shirou more than he likes Waver.

And he's hot and twice their age. They have daddy issues. Same with Flat, by the way. He also has a crush on him.

Flat doesn't even care about Waver's intelligence or handsome face. He loves Waver because Waver was the first one to accept him.

Flat IS the best girl.

If Rail Tracer hadn't tipped Marisbury, he'll be a third Association Master (meaning Shirou never becomes a Master) or he'll take Bazett or Atomic Gartorade place?

Waver is a more appropriate "hero" for the current generation of Japanese herbivore males than a shonen hero of justice like Shirou.

Probably take Bazett's place. Gatorade went to Fuyuki way too early iirc

Bazett was invited by Kotomine so she's going. I'll just reckon the Clock Tower would send 3 Masters then:

Animusphere: Caster Solomon.
Galliasta: Saber Jason.
Bazett: Lancer Cu.

I feel like Waver would see too much of his younger self in Shirou to leave him alone. I'd like to make a distinction of what I mean. I'm not saying young Waver is like Shirou, but that his perception of his past self as stubborn, idealistic and reckless would would lead him to sympathizing with Shirou and spending his attention on him.

He would probably be more of a father figure to Shirou, intentionally, than any of the others.

Gatorade wasn't yet in Fuyuki when Marisbury got the tip though, he cancelled his trip when he got the tip.

Is it even possible to summon Jason as a Saber outside of FGO? Wouldn't he automatically be summoned as a Rider (his best fitting class)?

Shirou would probably get some bad rumors spread about him for being in Waver's class despite being such a talentless nobody.

Waver x Gray is the only acceptable ship. He even calls her his fair lady for fucks sake.
He's just grooming/waiting her to be legal.
After all, he's over twice her age (19 vs 14)

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I deem him as unlucky so he gets Saber Jason.

Yeah, that makes sense (not that it matters what his class is in this case, as Solomon destroys everyone regardless).

Why did Dumas turn Jack into another Flat?

I wonder if Moneybill would even stay once he figures out the Grail is tainted. He'll probably figure that out pretty quick too. He's the For the Greater Good guy but he also has a one track mind about Chaldeas and this doesn't serve his purpose.

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>Absolutely doesn't want to fight on the front lines
>Gets stuck in the one class that HAS to get as close to the action as possible

Incidentally, his Luck is actually A+. So it's not luck, it's just the world giving him his just desserts.

Solomon would probably realize what's going on instantly. As a Grand Servant, his role is to fight Beasts and the Grail turned Angra Mainyu into a pseudo-Beast.

I just want him with Jason because it makes me laugh.

Is that Zelretch at 10?

Solomon is completely autistic and devoted to follow Marisbury's literal orders, though.

>『Brilliant Ship that Tears the Heavens』
>Rank: B++　Type: Anti-Army
>Range: 1~10　Maximum number of targets: 50 people
>Astrapste Argo.
>Reinforcement from the Argo. The heroes that sailed on the ship begin a simultaneous attack. The more righteous is Jason's position in battle, the larger the support from the crew becomes, and the frequency of the attacks will increase too.
>On the contrary, if his position is clearly that of a villain, it will turn into a situation of 『surprisingly, nobody sailed (sabotage)』, and its power will remarkedly drop.

He is not a Lord.

Speaking of Grand servants, who would take the role of Grand Assassin now that Gramps has abdicated from it?

Roman and Merlin spoke about how the Deluge heroes were those who had unique contact with death. It's not about someone who kills, but someone who outlived and became one with the abyss.

So Grand Assassin Utnapishtim (assuming that isn't King Hassan's true identity)then?

Because Jack complains several times about being unable to empathise with Flat's point of view/being unable to see things from Flat's perspective/being unable to understand Flat's thought process

Can he still use Natural Born Killers?

6 is Kayneth, 7 is Inorai
I think 12 might be Lorelei

Wait patiently for the next volume

Someone try to justify to me how Jack the Fucking Ripper can have a Noble Phantasm that turns him into a hundred demons that can actually almost kill Alcides.

What did you guys think about the animated adaptation having a slightly darker take on their HGW where they magic firebombed much of Fuyuki to win rather than achieved victory almost painlessly like in the game?

The same way Lionheart is somehow faster than both Cu and Medusa out together (to the point of dodging GoB spam by running), can turn any object he holds into excalibur and has the spirits of all his budies in his shadow, and can use all the personal skills and nps of his buddies.

jack the ripper was a demon (maybe). demons are strong

All the forms he turns into is based off of actual theories of what people thought his true identity was. It's the manifestation of the concept that "jack the ripper could've been anyone or anything" ranging from a demon to a loli

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That's great and all, but it shouldn't be that strong. Not even the dumbest idiot would think that Jack the Ripper can beat up Heracles.

We're all thinking it and i'm just saying it, this show is boring.

Your butthole is boring spruce it up a bit.

Not hercules, but a female hero under the right conditions? sure

He can probably turn into Lewis Carrol/Nursery Rhyme and Helena Blatvasky tho
They got some freaky broken stuff

I wonder if Marisbilly's dream is different from the reality or Nasu changed that scene.
Btw his dream is kinda similar to Singularity F isn't it?

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Some people at the time actually thought that he might have been actually satan himself so there's no telling what he can really do with that

Dude if a few people thinking you're Satan could give you that kind of power, Angra Mainyu wouldn't be weak as fuck. In fact, Narita seems to be trying his hardest to forget that Angra Mainyu exists at all.

Noah too.

They would have firebombed the Grail only if it was tainted though.

Satan is going to be Moneybill.

>However, though her Noble Phantasm’s power is great, its damage is determined by the target’s resistance to curses. It is difficult for “Maria the Ripper” to deal its full power just as planned against enemies, except for modern day Heroic Spirits. Only if she has a Master that is the best in terms of magecraft and all three conditions are fulfilled can this Noble Phantasm have power equal to the average “Zabaniya” used by the Hassans.

So she's probably not that strong against Heaven- or Earth-attribute Servants.

Man. Marisbilly sure got handsome.

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As expected.

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Moesbilly

>they magic firebombed much of Fuyuki t
*gas leaks

Firebombing the city would be an ez pz win, so...
I'm surprised nobody tried something like that, really.
Summon someone like Arash or Karna and command seal them into turning the city into a molten glass crater.
Or hell, given actual Nazis (as in, the german army) got involved in the third war, literally firebombing the city

I mean it's a terrible thing and there's like a couple hundred thousand people living in Fuyuki.
But magi are pretty fucked up evil and there's a nigh-onipotent wish granting device on the line

He didn't even beat Hercules, one of the demons wounded Alkideus and thats all. Alkideus thought that he still can kill all demons just by using Nine lives. And power of Jack's NP depends on amout of humans fears in near area and abilities of his master, those both criteries were at their peaks so that's why it was so effective.

>Or hell, given actual Nazis (as in, the german army) got involved in the third war, literally firebombing the city

Please understand. Fionn was just following orders.

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Has Luvia even met Shirou at this point in time?

She won't meet him for at least another year. She won't meet him at all if it's Heaven's Feel.

Billy looks like Soo-won from Yona, I see Nasu is a man of culture as well

So where did Gray even come from? She keeps saying she was a gravekeeper. Does that mean she worked for the Church in some capacity and Waver helped her escape from that life? She seems to be a well-trained melee fighter. Is she trained to Executor/Burial Agency levels perhaps?

She's from some little village full of cultist who are obsessed with King Arthur. Her athleticism is probably due to her body being, like, 80% a genetic match for Saber's. That said, I doubt her training and experience is enough to let her go toe-to-toe with Executors yet. Maybe if she devoted herself to training and combat for another ten years.

I don't know. Kirei was pretty worn down after taking out a few of Caster's skeleton warriors but Gray wasn't even breaking a sweat after taking out a bunch of those Black Dog things. Gray only seemed to get tired after having to user her NP.

Kotomine was past his prime. Also, the Burial Agency isn't entirely combat oriented; there are members who can't fight worth a damn at all. Ciel's just one of the especially combat oriented ones. Kotomine wasn't a member of the Burial Agency (there are only seven members in the Burial Agency and one sub-member), but he was a Church Executor, who generally ARE combat-oriented. There's also Riesbyfe, who was a member of the Vestel Shield Knights, but we don't really know anything about those and she can even give Ciel a bit of a run for her money. Kotomine was probably somewhere below her.

What Kotomine has is experience. Even past his prime, it'd be tough to take him down for most humans. Shirou had enhanced physical abilities after getting Archer's arm grafted on him, but he was nearly killed by a dying Kotomine.

>She's from some little village full of cultist who are obsessed with King Arthur.
So basically Case Files is the sequel to Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Basically this could be said about Fate in general.

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>She keeps saying she was a gravekeeper.
I mean yes Gray used to be a gravekeeper until Waver found her and she went to London with him. Also she was taught to use the Scythe after her face got transformed into Seibahface, so she had trained for around 9 - 10 years.

>Mordred serving as Arthur's squire

Couldn't you also end up destroying the Grail Vessel on accident?

She literally can't.

She comes from the Blackmore's cemetery. Like in the DAA.

What is Grey? She's a picture of Arthur or something??? WTF is that? Can someone explain pls.

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She is a stand-in for Artoria's body.

so how is this show related to Fate universe?

I don't know, it's set in the very same timeline as FSN and follows a popular character related events immediately before and during the start of FSN. How is not related?

Did you watch Fate/Zero? Remember how it's about a grail war 10 years before Fate/Stay Night?

One of the characters in that, Waver, survived and went on to work at the Clock Tower (the place Rin and Luvia were educated, in London). Case Files is about him working as a teacher there.

hmm... now that you mention it...
>Did you watch Fate/Zero? Remember how it's about a grail war 10 years before Fate/Stay Night?
Ahh... right. Totally forgot that show. Been a while. I should rewatch some of it again.
thanks for the rest.

Thematically, Case Files it's about a string of related cases where Waver is involved and how due to them he gets a bit more over its own trauma and issues.

>Reading the first LN volume trying to learn the background of this show
>Turns out you have to grok Kabbalah to understand what's going on
Why does this have to be so complicated?

The Kabbalah in volume 1 is mainly there for fluff. What you need to know is that correlation and symbolism it's important in magecraft.

TILL I STRIKE
Gonzo space vampire dantes is better than danganroppa dantes. The former is even voiced by Jouji aka signature voice of multiple TM villains

E D M O N D
THAT'S MY NAME, DON'T YOU FORGET IT.

Gankotsuou was such a good show. If someone had told me CoMC was going to be so good as a space opera, I wouldn't have believed them

I like both really. They even gave this one a classy count design.

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By putting plugs in her nose before she dies from blood loss.

This show more or less confirms my own personal hypothesis that all male mages are autistic and all female mages are incredibly horny.

It's a sad dynamic, but surprisingly efficient in keeping mage bloodlines alive and free of infighting.

Reines is trolling waver. Even the monologue in both the LN and manga spells it out. She says all that shit precisely because she knows waver wouldn't take her up on it.

Wrong. The women are just as crazy. See Touko.

waver is turbo gay

>Nobu.
Jealous.

Doesn't Nobu have a straight up counter against servants with a Divine origin? Or is that just in FGO?

>Paris and Hector in Nasuverse
woah

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Is Morgan also a Saberface?

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"no way I'm a fag"

>Girl.
It's obviously, user.

how is he hervibore when his goal is to get railed again

Yes. The myth got all mixed up so Morgan Le Fay the Faerie and Morgan the half sister became the same person.

I find it interesting. But it does make me wonder what the fuck happened to Rin and Shirou in that universe.

In Japan herbivore refers to men who are not interested in relationships with women. A herbivore male may or may not be gay.

Reines is almost certainly 99% just trolling Waver. But nonetheless, the sheer amount of pussy just lying around for Waver to ignore does fuel my headcanon.

All mages are crazy. The only difference is that male mages are autistic and crazy while female mages are all horny and crazy

Of course. Why wouldn't she look like her sister?

Her Noble Phantasm, Demon King of the Sixth Heaven, achieves maximum damage against those with divinity and mystery. The higher the divinity, the more damage it does. It's a Reality Marble that causes pain for those with high divinity simply by being caught in it, and against those with high divinity, it's difficult to stay alive.

But as far as I'm aware, Nobunaga doesn't have any actual defenses that would render attacks like Excalibur, Enuma Elish or Vasavi Shakti ineffective against her. And there are monsters like Heracles who would just keep moving forward even as his HP goes down. It's a bit like how since Georgios is said to have an absolute advantage against all dragons and thus people take that to mean that he'd beat Saber with absolute ease, but I'd like to see him tank an Excalibur to the face.

Ugh the Saber Cloneness in Gray really piss me off when I look at her. I wonder this is why Waver don't want to see her face

I get Enuma Elish being dangerous. But would Saber even have time to pull out Excalibur? Like, it takes a long time to charge. And I doubt Saber could just tank damage like it's nothing.

Saber isn't especially divine. She has high mystery due to her dragon factor, but she has no relation to gods. Demon King of the Sixth Heaven does have a strong effect on mystery, but it's most decisively effective against those with high divinity. As long as she grits her teeth and bears it, she can probably blow the entire thing away with Excalibur.

Perhaps. Even if it does take a while to charge, I doubt it can be interrupted easily.

In fact, has it ever been interrupted in any Fate story? Every time I remember her using it, she seems to pull it off without a hitch.

Honestly, after her Factor of the Dragon is rebooted, she displays no issue with firing it off. She manages to fire it pretty easily in her battles with Gilgamesh and in Fate/hollow ataraxia. It may have been due to her condition that it took so long against Assassin and Rider.

What about Caster in Zero? That took a while as well.

Excalibur is faster to use than Enuma Elish.

That's just anime portraying it slowly to make it look cool. In Fate route in final battle against Gil she fires it in time after Gil already started to use Enuma Elish.

Huh, I see. I kind of figured it was something like that.

Well, whatever. I guess Nobu would probably have a very hard time dealing with Saber. Especially since her maximum range isn't that high for a archer. She might be able to beat Gilgamesh though, if only because her nature as a female gag character would trigger Gilgamesh's autism.

If she uses a Reality Marble, Gilgamesh would have no choice but to use Ea. Unless he has some other Reality Marble-shattering item in that treasury of his. Hell, for all we know, he might even have some sort of Anti-Anti-Divine relic of some sort.

If he does, then he might have a chance. Because I just can't imagine his pride allowing him to use Ea on somebody like Nobu.

Nobu's a doofus, but she's also someone he can't ignore. If anything, he'd have quite a bit of respect for her as an Anti-Divine Servant. Gilgamesh hates the gods too, you see.

That's true as well.

Fuck, now I actually want a serious battle between those two.

It'd probably end in Gilgamesh's victory. The moment she sets up Papiyas, he'd probably be impressed and decide to test out how it holds up against Ea.

It almost certainly would. I mean, it's Gilgamesh. But I do still think it would be a pretty cool battle.

Could Emiya qualify for the Faker class? It's a class designed for imitations and counterfeiters, and Emiya's the ultimate counterfeiter.

t. gilgamesh.

What kind of a person would get Gilgamesh as his servant without using a catalyst?

Putin

Wouldn't Putin just get somebody like Peter the Great?

I got loliVinci

Emiya no, but I feel like nameless might qualify since he's an amalgamation servant taking credit for others' actions

Pretty sure he would never summon a Westernboo

>>out of nowhere achieved the 2000 year dream or whatever it is of his family
it seemed to me he IS the dream, the family just forgot what they were originally doing.

>Implying Putin isn't a westernboo.
The guy sold out glorious eastern traditions for the sake of degenerate western capitalism.

He's not taking credit. The concept of taking credit doesn't exist for someone without a name. He was chosen by the masses, by humanity's counter force. It's likely that he very well may be the strongest of the nameless Counter Guardians.

Didn't Nameless made contract with Moon Cell instead of counter force?

Will we see this animated?

and then Iskandar decides that combining their marbles would be a great idea [His army gets unlimitied magic swords!] and the world explodes.

The Emiya in the Throne and the Emiya in the Moon Cell are sort of linked. Him being a faceless representative of the masses is something that is shared between both settings. When there is a crisis that threatens the Human Order, the Heroic Spirit of Wrought Iron is sure to appear.

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>Two awkward crossplays and Merlin on a typical Saturday night.

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chu mean?

It is. Just some jewish angel semantics and some otherwise meaningless lore babble, with half the people dying and then wow, it was Ron all along.

It was S H I T

>Waver says yes b/c he’s distracted by something
>”O-o-ok onii-sama! Umm w-w-w-where do we start then?”
>Reines breaks down and starts acting her age

I doubt she would react that way. If she ever sensed any real sexual attraction, she would start blue balling him like mad.

Touko is maximum horny-crazy
She only took Mikiya up on the job application after he mentioned that her Alice doll looked just like Shiki. And the first thing she does is check out Shiki while she's still comatose/recovering.
There's ulterior motives written all over that shit.

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Reines is surprisingly powerless when people deal w/ her actively (see: her being used as a catalyst by Waver)

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LNfags, will she get much more screentime?

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I don't think that's true when it comes to sex though. Especially when she's dealing with a megavirgin like Waver.

Only if they'll shoehorn her into new content.

I'm just disappointed that she never got any offical nudes.

No

What's the deal about it?

She was almost naked several times in prisma.

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>implying Reines isn't a megavirgin

If we get a second and third 12-episode season, then yes

She's been mollesting her classmates before their balls dropped. Magic and hormones are a very dangerous combination.

I know, and hopefully so. Not just Sir Kay but i also want to see Zepia on anime and that Reines's dress is my most favorite outfit of her in Case Files novel too.

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Is this real?

>>cuter than Gareth, who is a girl

no

They actually game her bonus screen time so you should be thankful. It's Touko's cameo that got fully skipped.

>2017
damn thats old

The only real one is where El-Melon2 goes to the Fourth war and Iskander says he doesn't like him, and he has that crushed expression on his face.

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are stage plays massive now in japan or something? TM seems to get a lot of their stuff adapted

You know he would have clopped for daddy if asked.

>now
FGO had 2 stage plays before they were adapted as anime

yeah I know, that's why I was asking

Why do people even like her? I would prefer to see Rin.

She's Adilicia with drill hair, wrestling and some Rin-like traits

She's Rin except not a poor fuckup

Ahe pays Rin ~$100,000 a year to be her part time maid.
Rin shouldn't be poor anymore.

Rin is is a money repellent, she'll be poor in no time. The only way she might reach some sort of equilibrium is if she summoned Gilgamesh. But they're both fuckups.

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Wish secondaries would stop spouting off stupid memes. Rin being cash strapped is her dad's fault, not hers. Her magecraft requires expensive gems and she knew the grail war was coming up so she was stockpiling them, which ate up most of her resources outside necessary expenses.

Tokiomi was well off due to his magical patents. I can't recall if it's ever actually stated but as Kirei was running the family until Rin was of age, I suspect he intentionally mismanaged some of their assets.

Nope idiot. Kirei donated most of Rin's inheritance to the Charities and/or the Church. The Tohsaka family was a traditional patron of the Church iirc
She still has a bunch of hard assets (several million dollars worth of gems plus proprieties, magic books, land, etc) but she won't turn those assets in money for a variety of reasons.
She lives from Tokiomi's patents.
The Tohsaka were traditional landowners and real state monguls.
Odds are kids in Fuyuki actually learn about Rin's family in school, given all of Fuyuki amd the surroundings was once Tohsaka land.
All Magi seem to own a lot of land, now that I think about it

The arc is not over yet in the manga translation. The epilogue reveals that Adashino is perfectly alive and trolled everyone.

Hnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg

>Kirei donated most of Rin's inheritance to the Charities and/or the Church.
What a nice and pious man.

Prisma is trash for secondaries and yurifags

Fuck off mobageshitter

Fuck off yurifaggot and take your headcanon elsewhere

I fucking DESPISE FGOfags.

Wait so what have they been adapting up until now if not LN content? It's been quite rushed and janky too, I assumed they were cruising through LN content