The strongest stand in terms of physical power

He would annihilate DIO

Diavolo can't attack during erased time and can't defend himself during stopped time. How exactly would he annihilate DIO?

>stop time
>donut Diavolo while he's helpless
????

Cant even destroy sheer heart attack

It depends on who stops time or skips time first, would be an interesting matchup.

>hey ya! tells pocoloco to not fear because king crimson can't do shit to him
>pocoloco believes it
>????
>pocoloco wins

>would be an interesting matchup.
On paper yes but unfortunately DIO is a retard

Even if Diavolo managed to donut Dio he woudent know hes a vampire and presume hes dead then get fucked.

Yeah I thought of it more, dio would likely win

>muh husbando would beat your husbando
>nuh uh
>uh hu
girls girls no need to engage in homoerotic cat fights for the sake of fan service within the thread. kira would kill both of them because they would walk by a car or street light that his stand would be hiding in and bites the dust is the most over powered ability in jojo because it locks in kills to a set time in a day and gives kira that whole day to do what ever in a ground hogs day loop. he could kill the entire planet in one 24 span of time

End this fucking meme.

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No

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Wha, wha wha wha wha wha wha wha wha wha wha wha

It really isn't. It doesn't have any feats even close to stands like Star Platinum. A shit tone of stands are able to donut people.

>jotaro
>trying to kill people
Are you fucking retarded? When he went serious against DIO he literally donuted his entire body

Epitaph allows him to see ten seconds ahead no matter what. He will see where Dio is at the end of those ten seconds. Dio stopping time before him or even in general has no bearing on King Crimsons ability besides Dio looking like he teleported in Diavolo's prediction.

>implying diavolo would have time to use epitath

If he doesn't understand stopped time, or that he is a vampire, seeing the future won't matter, Diavolo would have to sneak up on Dio and annihilate his brain

Stopping time won't allow him to use his epitaph proper.

Epitaph is an active ability that Diavolo needs to choose to use leaving him vulnerable unless he's using it in skipped time. And no matter Diavolo would never be able to kill DIO since nothing that KC does will kill DIO instantly. A full powered first from Star Platinum to DIO's head couldn't kill him and DIO was able to react and stop time before it hit. Any attack Diavolo threw at DIO would just be another opportunity for him to stop time. Diavolo would never be able to beat DIO in a straight 1 vs 1 without outside factors like the sun.

That's a weird way to say Superfly

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>Diavolo would have to sneak up on Dio and annihilate his brain
Star Platinum wasn't able to do it which means KC wouldn't be able to do it.

considering he never got into a punch out with anyone than GER (who he smacked tf down until the arrow "chose" giorno and made GER) why does it even matter?

Pol Pol was able to do it but he didn't do it quick enough, and Star Platinum was only able to attack Za Warudo because time stop wouldn't stop his punches.

>hurr he cracked a rock once
Die, reatrd

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The World donuts people too, and Star Platinum is slightly stronger than The World.

>Pol Pol was able to do it but he didn't do it quick enough
And besides made in heaven silver cheriot is the fastest stand introduced which means KC wouldn't be fast enough.

>Using Doppio using two arms of KC as an example
If anything that's even more impressive

explain

Grasp at starws more, kctard. he has done NOTHING impressive

Diavolo only lent two arms of King Crimson not the complete stand.

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So? It barely did anything. It wasn't even able to break rock. Are you going to reply with some headcanon garbage?

>teleports razor blades
His power doesn't teleport, it merely utilizes the iron that is found in the victims blood

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Ahem

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Jotaro pulls his punches
The real feat of strength is josuke casually donuting his mom and also donuting two people in a single punch

Settle down, all of you

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wasn't it even said that Diamond is faster then Platinum without abilities involved?

Nah, although they must be close since Josuke surprised Jotaro

it was never stated anywhere. It's just bullshit headcanons from Jotaro and Josuke's fight there Jotaro was pulling his punches HARD while Josuke was in full DORA mode.

While Jotaro has feats of strength surpassing those of Diavolo it is important to note that nothing like that ever happens again in JoJo. And to some people's dismay, Dio donuts 1 guy and punches really hard the rest of the time.

EVERY single punch Diavolo throws in the anime (haven't read the manga in like 3 years) plows through a human organ like butter. For as lanky and non-muscular as the stands and users get in later parts I love the fact Diavolo just hits Giorno slightly at the elbow and his entire arm just severs, don't know about you guys.

That said this entire thread is bait.

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The gayest OP in terms of anal sex potential.

Destroyed the world with a single punch.

You're extremely biased. At least try to be more objective about it.

DIO donuts Kakyoin and then fights fucking Star Platinum. He doesn't just "punch really hard". This has nothing to do with strength and ONLY about the preferred way of killing. Jotaro always pulls his punches hard, he can't be used as a measurement and he never had a reason to go all out physically strength wise after part 3.

That's not Strength.

>EVERY single punch Diavolo throws in the anime (haven't read the manga in like 3 years) plows through a human organ like butter
So do a shit tone of other stands and DIO himself.

>For as lanky and non-muscular as the stands and users get in later parts I love the fact Diavolo just hits Giorno slightly at the elbow and his entire arm just severs, don't know about you guys.
He literally karate chopped him with its full momentum behind it. What the fuck are you on about?

You'd think he'd get serious in Part 6

That's pretty cool OP, but... Is there a stand using character who could defeat Kars? And keep in mind I'm talking about Arutimetto Shiingu Kars who has fully mastered Hamon and has total control over Hikari' no Mōdo and Kisai Kattō

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>Jotaro was holding back
What is this meme?

I think that's the reason why everybody oversells King Crimson's strength. All the other stands in Part 5 are physically weak in comparison so King Crimson stands out for being able to do things that were considered standard in earlier parts.

He did, he just never had a real opportunity to touch Pucci until the very end and Star Platinum was considerably weaker.

Jotaro never went full strength against anyone except for DIO

It's basic logic. Jotaro can blow holes open in the ground with a single punch, but when he punches people sometimes their bones don't even break. Obviously not all of his punches are being thrown at full strength.

yeah probably
>killer queen
>cream
>the hand
>d4c
>tusk act 4
>GER

Joseph Joestar

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>implying wouldn't fuck around for 15 minutes before fighting him

>plows through a human organ like butter
Not impressive

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How the fuck would they? GER is the only one because it plain defies reality, everything else no chance at all. Kars can literally regenerate from anything and is way too fast for the hand

No other stand has its every punch go through a body part, besides the King

Also I'm talking about the part in the finale. He doesn't karate chop him there I don't think

Also kind of a weird assumption, but am I the only one who thinks Josuke punches slower but has more power-per-punch than Jotaro? I mean I like him, but all these threads seem to be is Jotaro wankig.

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>No other stand has its every punch go through a body part, besides the King
That doesn't really have anything to do with strength, it's just how Araki wanted to write the story.

Araki himself has said that Star Platinum is the strongest stand so idk why powerlevelfags keep arguing about this meaningless shit

>killer queen
instantly blows people up, I imagine it'd work on kars
>cream
invisible ball of fuck that deletes anything it comes into contact with
>the hand
youre probably right
>d4c
same with killer queen, it just completely deletes shit
>act 4
iNfInItE sPiN

Star Platinum is literally the only stand who hit another so fucking hard it shattered into pieces.

The problem is that you guys are only thinking about what abilities could defeat Kars without considering the users who own those abilities.

Jotaro was obviously holding back during his fight with Josuke

Also nobody ever thinks about Kars trying to fight back or evade. It's always "well they could win if kars stood still and did nothing"

Araki is a retard.

Because there are very few characters that goes straight for the kill and has the opportunity to position themselves perfectly for it.

You're a fucking retard. And yes, I'm talking about the final. King Crimson had already started his attack in erased time and had a good momentum when he punched of Giorno's arm.

Hermit Purple. HP is one of the best stands. Araki didn't do it justice. Perhaps it was because he didn't want a previous protagonist to outdo the new one but considering the Jotaro wank in Part 4 that's bullshit

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>jotaro wank
>lost to fucking rats

>lost to fucking rats
Why do people keep saying this like it was a bad thing? The rats were fucking powerful. Most characters in the series would lose to those rats.

it doesn't help that Joseph wasn't very creative in using it.
He only used it as a whip/rope and device for prophecy.
Lord knows what Hermit purple's true potential is, when it was so viable with hamon

Well yes but so is looking at an extremely inconsistent source-material for accurate gauge of power. I mean Giorno sent multiple cars flying at the same time with Gold Experience which takes A LOT more speed and power than punching through people or smashing rocks, yet everyone here agrees GE is weaker than king crimson or star platinum. Even Silver Chariot was faster than King Crimson, who started from a stopped time position while silver chariot had to speed up. Does this mean Polnareff is the best, clearly much faster than KC? No, it just means Araki wanted to write a spectacle and it made Polnareff look cool

>Even Silver Chariot was faster than King Crimson
Silver Chariot is literally the fastest stand in the series besides MiH

Yet Hol Horse's bullet was able to out maneuver his sword, while he had his armor off.

He's the one that finished off Kira. Also those rats were legitimate opponents

>Vanilla Ice and Cream
>Killer Queen (Kars would underestimate Kira due to being a normal human and not take him seriously)
>D4C (Funny Valentine is very smart with his stand)
>Tusk Act 4
>GER
>Cheap Trick
>Heaven's Door

This of course relies on Kars not being able to see stands

Hermit Purple is garbage.

The human body only has enough iron for approximately one nail

>Kars would underestimate Kira due to being a normal human and not take him seriously
That would be out of character for him.

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Tell that to Araki

How do you know Hermit Purple's true potential isn't just the way Joseph was already using it?

>This of course relies on Kars not being able to see stands
It's pretty easy to get Stands. Honestly I think Araki should have brought Kars back only to give him an awful stand. It would be the best irony imaginable

Kars has the ability of every living thing on earth, and stand users are living things so

>part 3, but Jotaro is never born and Joseph has to defeat DIO by himself and tutor Casar's kid/nephew/something Zeppeli
>Hermit Purple is actually utilized
>Maybe he dies at the end just so the Zeppeli can finish the job and pay back Jonathan for killing Dio once

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Because like Jotaro he pretty much just got his stand?

Yet some stands are randomly faster than it when the plot so desires

Bottom like was this series is inconsistent and being a powerlevelfag is even more retarded than it usually already is

Joseph doesn't take damage if Hermit Purple is damaged. That gives him a unique advantage. Maybe the reason I like it so much is that it isn't a generic punch ghost.

He had it for a whole year longer

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Those were german soldiers who were experienced combatants while Kira looks like a run of the mill office worker

Considering this is the universe of Parts 1-6, Kars would need to get shot with an arrow and he'd probably need to steal it in order to get it.

Considering stands are alien in nature and not from Earth it's doubtful if he can have one easily.

A year is nothing. Polnareff was born with his Stand. Joseph was even rusty in using Hamon so he probably didn't practice all that much

You don't need to get shot with an arrow. Some people were born with their stands while others developed them naturally. Kars as the ultimate being could do the latter

A year is a pretty long time for someone to figure out what their stand ability is. Koichi went from egg to Act 3 in a summer.

because nobody uses their stands perfectly and some seem to develop new techniques/powers over time.
I also doubt Joseph had much stand combat experience, so he probably couldn't have known everything he's capable of.
Personally, I can imagine Hermit Purple being able of creating traps like Hierophat Green, and I'm certain that it doesn't necessarily have to be connected to his body.
Besides, the lore is that a stands power can be estimated by it's range, so I can't tell whether HP is classified as a short range (active use) or long range (prophecy, which techically is also short range because it needs to be used on devices infront of you)

Stands are not alien in nature. Only the virus, which has a side effect of awakening stands. is.

can Kars even see stands? would he know he's under attack before they make a move.

Hermit Purple should be one of the most broken stands because of hamon. Of course since Hamon was dropped for Stands it didn't live up to its potential

Why was polnareff born with his stand? Part 5 made it pretty clear how stands are made, why do people randomly have them on birth?

The ugly bastard who made the arrows

>Those were german soldiers who were experienced combatants while Kira looks like a run of the mill office worker
Kars doesn't even know what an office worker is. If he wants to kill someone, he will kill them. He only fucks around with Joseph because it was personal.

Stands aren't made through one specific way. The arrows just send in a virus that will help bring out the stand if you don't die. They don't create them.

So can Killer Queen, and it can't melee worth shit.

Hermit Purple already had a shit ton of powers though, Araki generally doesn't give people too many abilities.

I wish araki never wrote that stupid virus shit, it honestly ruined stands for me

I think you misunderstood what Part 5 said about stands.

>Silver Chariot is literally the fastest stand in the series besides MiH
Holy shit that is some power creep

That only applied to old universe stands though, new stands are from another method.

>shit ton
what shit ton, there's like 2 active effects? prophecy and rope.
Hamon isn't part of his stand, but he can use it with the stand

Since Hermit Purple can channel Hamon. All that bullshit Joseph did in Part 2 could be done with it.

Virus was just a method to bring out the stand. Other methods like the ones in part 7 and 8 exists.

>Only knock people out
>Literally splits Dio from groin to head like a fish with one punch.
Pic related is you.

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Wouldn't Hamon be useless in Part 3 though

It wouldn't be useless, but it wouldn't be the godlike power that people treat it as either.

remember that time white snake donuted 3 people at once?

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No because Joseph channels it though his stand so it could affect other stands

The real question is why Diavolo's design was reused

He can use it to control electronic devices

It's amazing how this King Crimson meme lasted so long

Do you think Polnareff heard the seven pages of muda's all the way to the coliseum?

That being said, there aren't many times in Part 3 where Joseph would be able to hit a stand with Hermit Purple anyway. I can't actually think of any of the fights that he was present for that would let him use HP + hamon in a useful way.

Araki forgets everything and never reads his own material.

How many times must you be taught this lesson?

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Nah Hamon could do a lot. Just look at how much Araki shilled the Spin. Hamon is a versatile ability. It combined with Hermit Purple's range and divination would make for a potent combo

Is this bait? The strongest stand physically is Star Platinum by a massive margin.
>b-but King Crimson can punch holes in people with significant effort while they're in its range!
So could most other short range stands if they wanted to. Soft and Wet, a stand with average power, kicks a hole through an apartment wall. Jotaro just likes beating the shit out of people.

>Soft and Wet, a stand with average power, kicks a hole through an apartment wall
Even I could do that

Could you please provide a specific example of something Joseph could have done with hamon?

A european wall, my nigga. You know, those that are built with bricks and shit, none of that drywall bullshit you americans call a "wall".

Joseph stopped training his Hamon but if he did he would have been able to do the shit he did in Part 2

Maybe, but it fucking demolishes the wall.

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Like what? Give me a specific example.

He could control people like Caesar did. That would have been useful many times in Part 3

Like when? Most of the enemies they faced would easily be able to counter that by blocking Hermit Purple before it reached them or simply not being in his range.

Heh funny meme XD

>Kars can literally regenerate from anything
If a few minutes in lava can kill him then so can plenty of stands.

He didn't die in the lava

Why did Giorno never reflect damage like this again? Feels like it could've been pretty handy in some situations

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Because he managed to escape.

*beats everyone*

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It's a fight, not a horse race.

So he can escape from those stands too

That's not crazy diamond

>simply not being in his range.
Hermit purple has an extremely large range though.

Why do the characters keep talking about range of stands like king crimson? The very first moment it was used the bucci-gang were very far away from it yet got affected anyway. Then suddenly it becomes like 2 meters in the final battle. Same applies to za warudo, what does it look like if you're outside the range? Is the time stopped only inside a small bubble?

You need to actually think about the fights that Joseph was in. Some of the enemies they faced were so far away he wouldn't even be able to see them.

>Punches you as hard as a small meteor

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You ever noticed how similar Crazy Diamond and The World looked?
He probably just liked drawing Diavolo and did it again.

They mean the punching range, not the time ability range

>Why do the characters keep talking about range of stands like king crimson? The very first moment it was used the bucci-gang were very far away from it yet got affected anyway
What they're referring to is effective range. When Stands go outside this range they grow weaker
>Is the time stopped only inside a small bubble?
Time stops everywhere

See Stone Free sounds cool on paper but then you get around to reading Part 6 and it has only a few cool moments

I'm at the beginning of part 6 and didn't they literally steal Star Platinum because it's the strongest stand

this. Star Platinum is a simple Stand but over the course of Part 3 it does a lot of neat shit

Because Part 3 was the part that introduces the concept of stands themselves, Araki went out of his way to show all the different tricks they have.

They were after Jotaro's memories and Star Platinum is also the only stand that can put up a fight against Made in Heaven

all of you are gay and this thread sucks

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Why would he spawn blade inside of Doppio's mouth instead of his heart/integral arteries?

That's not what power creep means.

wow ok i went back to reading and literally the next chapter was this you're right

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Hey Ya! is objectively the most powerful and useful stand in the series

It does nothing but encourage you

C-Moon was cooler than Made in Heaven

Everything it said throughout the whole part came true and Poccolocco won

Based and Moonpilled.

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Because Pocoloco was lucky

Stone Free does plenty of cool shit though
>becoming a mobile printer to counter effect the effects of Jail House Lock
>allowing Jolyne to literally be spiderman and swing from sprinklers to avoid snails in Heavy Weather
>turning her own body into a mobius strip to counter C. Moon's gravity inverting punches
>surrounding Jolyne's body so she can literally light herself on fire to counter Rykiel's Sky High

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Because he had Hey Ya's advice and it allowed him to capitalize on his luck.

I miss Joseph, bros.

Both old and young.

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That doesn't make Hey Ya! the most objectively powerful and useful stand in the series though.

Hey Ya!'s ability is literally just probability manipulation to achieve Pocoloco's goals. Thankfully, his ambitions are relatively harmless in the grand scope.

>Allowing the user to capitalize on all of their luck regarding any situation they can find themselves in
Theoretically, with Hey Ya, a child could kill Dio

Star Platinum has at least a dozen in Part 3

Moonposter get fucked

Read this.

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>right?
lmao, it's like he's trying to recall what the stand even did in the first place

More like AGI

He also takes iron from the soil and plants which is why he can't put it directly into your heart and instead does it underneath your skin.

He probably doesn't even remember what Star Platinum did

Best character, best stand. Rohan would have the easiest time out of any character in the series to take over the world

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k

>Araki Self-insert
>Best character
I will give you that his stand is in the top 5 strongest stands.

He was tryin to whittle him down/torture/weaken him for interrogation, not kill him.

>what are long distanced stands

Unless they got ranged attacks Rohan can still Heaven’s door the stand if he gets close enough.

That's a big if considering Heaven's Door has no combat capabilities

To be honest he could just get a Stand army (or just an army of normal humans with weapons) that obey him like robots assuming he goes around using Heaven’s door on people, that’s one of the plus of his power, but yeah he is pretty vulnerable to ranged attacks.
I do think that he can bullshit his way out of things like that if he could make Koichi fly meters away just by writing it (by doing stuff like, I will dodge every attack incoming or some shit)

what would be moody blues requiem power

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Why do you fags even argue this when The Hand exists?
It's user might be retarded but the actual stand power is one of, if not the strongest depending on how it's used
>literally deletes things
>able to manipulate space, therefore able to manipulate distance
this, plus unlimited possibilities that the user is incapable of due to smol brain

What part of physical power do you not understand?

Dumbass. We're talking about the Stand's physical strength not it's ability

>weakest time stand
>best character

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No way to really tell, requiem powers don't seem to correlate to the original stand ability whatsoever.
If it were to, maybe it would allow Moody Blues to physically swap places with the person it is mimicking and have them do the actions it is replaying?

well it's not like it's a fucking lifting contest
practically every single closequarters stand is capable of smashing a hole in concrete so what else is there left to evaluate with than the actual stand power?

>weakest time stand
rewinding time is about equal to the rest. Ringo just didn't use it well

>weakest time stand
Not in the slightest, the only thing that makes it somewhat weak is Ringo's mental switch being the watch, he doesn't need to use the watch, he just chooses to

it gives the other stand users the same advantage and they actually have stands that can kill

Ahem...

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>weakest time stand
abba?

>well it's not like it's a fucking lifting contest
That's the topic of the thread, dummy.

I thought requiem manifested itself from what the owner most wanted. Kira wished he could undo the whole mess and got bites the dust, polnareff wanted to protect the arrow at all costs, Giorno wanted something to defeat king crimsons seemingly invincible ability

>I thought requiem manifested itself from what the owner most wanted
You thought wrong

Bites the Dust is not requiem

It only gave them an advantage because he specifically went out of his way to explain it to them
The only weaknesses that Mandom has is the ones put in place by Ringo himself

Killer Queen just gained a new ability. It would have become a Requiem if Killer Queen was stabbed with the arrow

That's an old fan theory that has so many holes in it I'm surprised that it's even still around.

>asking a question that has no canon answer because it's not ever proven
Well, in that case how about Star platinum? because it was capable of holding back a roadroller (that was being pushed down)
No other stand has ever had a scenario where their strength is being tested

Does Koichi's requiem even count as a power up? it's literally a downgrade

Well I mean we don't really have anything official to go by so why not

Yes, as many people have already pointed out in this thread, Star Platinum has demonstrated the most physical feats of strength and it the likely candidate for strongest stand.

>Koichi's requiem
What the fuck are you talking about

Why not just go by what Araki wrote

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Okay well explain requiem to me based on this, because GER and chariot had nothing in common

>Implying Pucci feels any guilt

Asspull arrow that doesn't make sense and is only there to end the part

I like my headcanon better

just popped in to my head, no reason to it at all

Requiem stands are bullshit
don't think about it too much, Araki didn't either

It's never explained beyond the vague idea of being able to dominate souls. There's no way to speculate what a potential Requiem could be because Araki could theoretically choose to make it anything he wanted to.

Also, the fact that Polnareff didn't have control of his stand complicates things further. There's just not enough information to find any kind of pattern to them.

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Why did Part 6 buff hexers so much?

I'm also curious to why exactly polnareff couldn't control it.
Like, what kind of stupid fucking excuse is "lack of legs = unfit for battle = unfit for controlling requiem"
He clearly had full control of normal Silver Chariot, so why the fuck was requiem so special?
and more importantly, how could he confidently say that everyone else would be capable of controlling requiem?

>I'm also curious to why exactly polnareff couldn't control it.
His spiritual power wasn't high enough or some dumb shit like that
It was probably less of "oh fuck my legs, guess I can't do shit now" and more "oh fuck I've been dicking around on my ass for like a decade and don't fight anymore"

The shit writing of Part 5

How about physically strongest character? Jonathan was able to break through three steel bars with his own hands, can any character match or beat that?

That would make sense, but then Araki hits us with this

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If you're only talking about humans, then yeah it probably is Jonathan. Even without hamon he could tackle through walls.

This kind of power level bullshit really doesn't work with Jojo, partially because araki is really inconsistent about the strength and speed of stands but mostly because the ability and strategies the users employ with their stands is what wins fights.

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I think that is just to show later down the line that Giorno is much more spiritually powerful, just to show how much will and resolve he has in being able to control what was, up to that point in the series, the supreme stand

But it wasn't that Giorno was the only one strong enough. The whole premise of the final conflict is that anybody who wasn't Polnareff would be able to use the arrow.

That doesn't make Giorno look strong, it just makes Polnareff look weak, which wouldn't even be a bad thing necessarily but then the villain specifically praises Polnareff for not being weak so it makes no sense.

I'm willing to bet it's It's so full of shit.

>boss wants to kill daughter
>hires the untrustworthy newbies to bring her to him
>tries to kill her RIGHT next to the moralfag capo

It's so silly how polnareff never contacted his old friends like Jotaro, despite being a super hacker or some shit.
It's also funny how Koichi and Jotaro did nothing about the situation - just learning that "Giorno is not an enemy" was enough.

The organization being depicted as some kind of illuminati that controls everything was also retarded.

Just because physical strength isn't the focus doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and can't be discussed.

I know, but most stands, unless explicitly stated, can eviscerate a human body in one way or another so it seems odd to try and compare just how much they can fuck you up

>The whole premise of the final conflict is that anybody who wasn't Polnareff would be able to use the arrow.
that's what everyone thought but in the end only giorno was able to do it because of his resolve and righteous actions

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>GER
Allows the user to attack the soul directly causing infinite deaths. Manipulates souls to remove their actions.
>Chariot Requiem
It literally manipulates the souls of those it puts to sleep.

He picked it up off the floor after Bruno destroyed the sun behind his head.

>I know, but most stands, unless explicitly stated, can eviscerate a human body in one way or another so it seems odd to try and compare just how much they can fuck you up
Correction most short range stands can do that. Longer range stands are usually weak as fuck

>Allows the user to attack the soul directly causing infinite deaths. Manipulates souls to remove their actions.
No it's ability is to revert actions to zero.

Why don't people just keep stabbing themselves with the arrow to add more abilities to their stand?

Because it only works when Araki writes himself into a corner.

All Stands have a development limit

Roring stones

They don't know their limit though, that's a bad answer.

This my headcanon but since Stands are just a reflection of their user I think a person can only handle so much. Doing something like that once or twice is probably the limit

Whah would rolling stones requiem look like?

I haven't read Part 5 yet but I heard that the part 5 antagonist was the one who sold the arrows to Dio. If so why does he need to chase after the arrow?

There's a stat for it. Some have an A in potential and others have E in potential. Those who have E are out of luck since their stands reached their limit

He sold the arrows to Enya.

He kept one arrow and gave it to Polpo to put into his stand.
The rest (including the Requiem arrow) were sold to Enya.
The Requiem arrow was recovered by Jotaro and Polnareff after the events of Part 3.

Stand stats only exist in the information panels between chapters. None of the characters know them

He didn't know the arrow was important.

I'm fairly sure that after a period of time Stand users know their Stands inside out

But they can't look up their developmental potential and say "Oh I'm still at B level, time to go learn new powers"

Well of course but they'd have a general idea

Any time a character learns a new power they seem surprised

Well potential could mean a new ability or upgrading your old one. In the case of the latter a character wouldn't really be surprised

Whitesnake is a longer range stand and can one shot humans and fight 1 v 1 with a short range stand while having Heaven's door like abilities.

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That's called being an exception.

>Can literally invalidate your stand just by tickling you
damn I forgot how busted this guy was

Are you retarded? Did you forget that Star Platinum punched through teeth that were as hard as diamond?

Hol Horse literally calls it (via DIO quote) when he says "Polnareff is overconfident and underestimates his opponents". Polnareff was completely certain that Chariot could easily stop the bullet, there was no way it wouldn't happen in his mind, specially with the armor off, that's why the bullet changing trajectory. something he didn't think was a possibility, caught him off guard.

>literally every part up until 5 has given me fucking chills
>part 5
>LET'S GO TO THE COLLOSEUM! LE ROTATING ROCKS!

Shame

Any other exceptions?

Diver Down is a much much worse version of Sticky Fingers

Whitesnake has a fuckton of abilities that make me think that it was originally a mc stand that just did asspulls like starfinger, starsuck, or GE's abilities and just make stuff up.

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Geb and RHCP?

God I can't wait to see Whitesnake animated, he's even better than King Crimson.

That's what happens when you introduce the villain so early. He gets all those power ups and then two form changes because Araki always wants to do new things.

Whitesnake was too much for me. I get that he ended to make the antagonist strong but he went too far

giorno doesn't reflect damage, GE does
you can hit giorno but if you hit GE or something it made like the frog in your pic then you're in for a bad time

but if I had to guess its probably because after the fight with baby face he could just replace his whole body with parts made from GE and be untouchable which would make for bad fights because every fight would be "how do I kill something I can't touch" and make for very uninteresting fights that all play out the same

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>giorno doesn't reflect damage, GE does
GE is Giorno's power so I think that's what he meant

Well he was able to pull off Whitesnake fights decently well.
>Whitesnake has a one-sided fight against FF and pretty much beats her shit.
>Is having a hard time being forced to fight close combat with Stone free but utilizes itself ability to pretty much be a instant win if hits.
>Is fighting Anasui and Weather at the same time.
Never felt overpowered in its fight scenarios it was forced into but did its job well.

Nah

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Bigger rock

I really hope they do this scene justice when they come to it. I had issue following along at points, I hope seeing it animated will help.

>can only punch a hole through 1 person
>not 2
pathetic

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Its likely that he could get a stand, but he wouldn't get them all like some people think, just because he has the ability of every living thing, it doesn't mean he has the same spirit as every single stand user.

yo yo yo!

>the same stats as Star Platinum
Araki really should have made an S-tier in between A and infinity, at the very least just to differentiate between all the other good stands and how broken Star Platinum is supposed to be.

Why is Jojolion so overtly sexual compared to the other parts?
It doesn't even fit the majority of the time, it's like Araki wanted to try fanservice but doesn't actually know how to do it.
Does he just think this is what writing for an older audience is?

Strongest stand confirmed.

I'm not complaining. Jojolion girls are babes.

Every other aspect of his writing is off so it makes sense.

The stats are pretty irrelevant anyway

How the fuck did it pin it down with SBR then lose sight of it completely to be writing shit like "I've been sopping wet since you called me"

Araki knew the times were changing. He had to appeal to the modern audience.

As "the modern audience" that line is awful and makes no fucking sense in the context of the character, nor makes sense in the context of the arc.

> Ftw all these fools talking about Kars powers and not mentioning Kars from the Light Novel who has made in heaven ultimate REQUIEM and is unironically the strongest Jojo character there is

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This whole thread is pretty cute, but now the real strongest stand has joined.

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The gist I gathered is that they unlock abilities that are beyond the typical limits for a Stand; stuff that fucks with the fundamentals of the universe.

Moody Blues Requiem would maybe, uh, be able to replay entire events; not just individual actor's parts? I'm not sure.

Bet, pussy.

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Read.

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>Wants to include elements of eroticism
>Doesn't know what subtlety is
Guess it checks out with what we got

Pleb filtered. Jojolion is way better than SBR

A terrible decision all things considered. Araki's eroticism is pretty bad

>Hey Josuke, I know I'm mentally fucked right now and see everyone as the same person and was just crying uncontrollably a few minutes ago, but I'm so fucking wet and ready to bang you in this bathroom right now
Truly way better than D4C, Lesson 5, and Love Train

Can't you handle a little fun? Instead of talking about something so inconsequential why don't you give real reasons of why SBR is better than Jojolion

SBR doesn't have the Blue Hawaii arc. That's a major plus.

Character arcs that matter, actions that fit the characters, likable characters, a setting that isn't shit, a plot that doesn't meander around

>Versace has a Requiem stand as his base
Truly best Dioson

>As "the modern audience"
You aren't japanese and you've never bought a copy of Jojolion in your life.

How cute. Just a daily reminder that Light Novel Kars can passively steal stands and them immeditely understand the nature behind them.AND any attack targeted towards him before they are even used.

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Jojolion has all of that

>You aren't japanese
Damn, you're right, I forgot Araki was writing to appeal to the brain damaged

cool fact, did you read that on reddit?

That's literary the fact that made Araki create Metalica

Stops time. "You don't exist anymore". Fight's over

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No it doesn't. Jojolion is a narrative mess and has the pacing of a snail

There's several combat applications that Hermit Purple has, since you can cover anything with it, you can use anything to fight stands, so any weapon is fair game especially since he can infuse both with hamon. Any trick Joseph did in Battle Tendency with strings would also be fair game with HP.

For example against Tower of Gray use hermit purple to read the minds of everyone in the plane, connect it with his walkman so he can hear their thoughts

Tower of Grey can cut the vines before he does that

>Any trick Joseph did in Battle Tendency with strings would also be fair game with HP.
All he did was melt pillarmen

I don't think you understood how Kars works in the Light Novel. He doesn't have one or two stands, he has 8 of them. Yes, bear with me here: He has Whitesnake, which passively steals and nulls stands that come near him, The World Ultimate, which is literally just the world works for 1 hour, Killer Queen, which is also the normal Killer Queen, D4C Ultimate which not only has every single ability of normal D4C but also transfers his consciousness to his alternate bodies. This means that even if the original Kars dies/is erased/etc he just comes back stronger AND with all his memories of the fight thanks to being the ultimate lifeform. Oh and lastly he has Made in Heaven Ultimate Requiem which turns him into fastboy as usual and also gives basically infinite reaction time. Daily reminder of his passive adaptation and UNDERSTAND of his opponen's powers so even looking at Dio will have him understand what THE WORLD can do and he also steals Dio's stand in the same instant.

What now?

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Damn, you right.

The reason White Snake is so powerful is because it’s basically an automatic stand. Puck never directly controls his stands actions throughout part 6, he’s always giving it commands.
See This seems like it would be a major flaw except it always does everything he wants anyway, but theoretically White Snake could just say no.

>Have the ability to trap anyone in a guaranteed death trap
>lol Miami Dolphins
Imagine if Araki villains weren't retards

KC has A rating in destructive power. The stand is genuinely one of the strongest physically.

Sure, he COULD do any of that, but then that’s saying that he could then be beat by Boy II Man. Heaven Ascended Dio wouldn’t take the chance to get bopped. He easily beat D4C, Tusk Act 4, and GER. The World Over Heaven has 0 flaws to it since the rewrite ability works on the stand itself and can remove any limits it has. (Also, TWOH has infinite time stop. All he has to do is wait for when Kar’s 1 hour is up, punch him, write reality so he no longer exists and it’s all over for Space Rock. (Also, D4C colliding with something is an insta-kill and Dio not only lived that insta-kill, but also healed back from it. The users are on the same paying field except HA!Dio isn’t a fucking furry [\spoiler]

Explain how Dio is going to counter Kars stealing and nullifying his stand the second he enters it. Also, Dio using the rewrite ability on himself is completely OOC and he would literally never do that in canon (Even when Jotaro uses the SaMe KiNd Of StAnD power). Kars from the novel meanwhile is a much more smart fighter with nigh-omniscience thanks to his knowledge regarding hundreds of universes and basically starts with his strongest attacks in all fights, Oh, and TWOH has a blatant flaw that the game literally states in it: TWOH can only activate the reality warping power with his hands. He doesn't have any ranged attacks.

Explain how Dio is going to counter Kars stealing and nullifying his stand the second he enters his range, even during stopped time. Also, Dio using the rewrite ability on himself is completely OOC and he would literally never do that in canon (Even when Jotaro uses the SaMe KiNd Of StAnD power). Kars from the novel meanwhile is a much more smart fighter with nigh-omniscience thanks to his knowledge regarding hundreds of universes and basically starts with his strongest attacks in all fights, Oh, and TWOH has a blatant flaw that the game literally states in it: TWOH can only activate the reality warping power with his hands. He doesn't have any ranged attacks.

petor

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The entire story is about Pucci wanting to reset the universe so that nobody has to feel as guilty as he does over fucking up Weather's life.

Crazy Diamond would make him his bitch

how are you posting from the dead, dio?

achieving heaven makes stand a god
what if you combine that with the arrow

He'd still lose to GER lol

None of those are cool, now Star Finger, thats cool

That and he didn't have onga bonga puch ghost to accommodate it

KC is mediocre in terms of A strenght stands, and has NO impressive feats

>weakest stand that didn't have any power at all

GER and Tusk ACT 4 don't give a flying fuck if that faggot can see him or not.

Star Platinum is. It can also actually take a punch unlike that red faggot.

This is purely physical and has nothing to do with OP abilities.

"Sheer physical power" being the operative word here. Overall power is harder to measure although it does seem like MiH is the strongest there is besides GER and Tusk ACT 4.

king crimson has done NOTHING even comparable to what Starplat has and these retards will still claim it punches harder

KC is one of the strongest physical Stands in Part 5, at the cost of being not durable at all and having shit range to donut people.

Sticky Fingers is also very strong, probably the strongest physically besides KC in the part. Neither of them are as strong as Star Platinum or The World though.

Jotaro's and edgy delinquent but not a murderous sociopath like the entire cast of Part 5. He never killed anyone in Part 3 besides DIO and Fake Captain Tennille, just hospitalized most of them.

>KC has A rating in destructive power.
many do, but noone is saying KISS is one of the strongest. besides, stats are bullshit.
>The stand is genuinely one of the strongest physically
nope, he never does anything that impressive

>Killer Queen
Kira just needs to touch him and he will explode into dust. Nothing to regenerate from. Granted, Kira needs to actually touch him to get this to work.

>Cream
Pretty much invisible void ball that disintegrates anything it touches.

>The Hand
Same as above, but more limited because the Stand user is a moron who doesn't want to kill.

>D4C
Pull Kars into another dimension and have him annihilate with another Kars. Valentine is crafty enough to pull this off more than any other villain and has an infinite amount of tries as he has an inifinite amount of selves.

>Tusk Act 4
INFINITE ROTATION

But then we never get Part 4 Jotaro, who's fucking great.

Araki felt like he went too far with part 3 and spent a lot of time rolling back the power level over time. The man considers time stop to be the strongest power, and constantly made Jotaro get weaker over time.

>Star Platinum smashes through literal diamond walls
>b-b-but King Crimson can donut a bunch of twinks!

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Stands whose ability affects time does so on a universal level; i.e., when DIO stops time with The World, time in the entire universe stops for that duration. Same thing with skipping time via KC.

However, while their abilities are absolute they need to physically get close to people in order to donut them.

holy shit that's terrible and fanfic tier

It's also completely useless against blind people or HaHa Just Close Your Eyes Nigga

Still better than D4C, all As except range yet it jobs to a dinosaur in close quarters both times

You are incorrect.

Only the Requiem arrow bequeaths a Requiem Stand and only when the Stand itself is pierced. Kira received BTD as a powerup by the other arrow piercing HIM because he was exceptionally frightened due to being desperate and needed a way out.

doesn't matter, noone is saying d4c punches the hardest

>all these featlets comparing dicks when The Hand exists

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Diego really is best DIO. Such a fantastic character.

PHYSICAL STRENGTH

how do you quantify the physical strength required to erase literally anything out of existence? you don't, brainlet
go back to your shonenbab threads if you want to know who punches harder and has more oxygen

>go back to your shonenbab threads
Should we tell him

>how do you quantify the physical strength required to erase literally anything out of existence?
Uh, you don't, because that is a magical power and not physical strength.

KC punch harder than Star Platinum in JoJo:ASB.
Checkmate.

tell me why should i read jojo beyond 4? i dont find it interesting desu, maybe you guys change my mind?

You shouldn't read something that doesn't interest you.

Jotaro was holding back most of the time

>King Crimson's full power = punch a hole through a regular human's chest
>Star Platinum without holding back = makes jonathan's ridiculously strong body (made even stronger because of DIO's vampirism) explode with a single punch

the hand is so slow it will get btfo by any half decent close range stand

maybe im losing something by not reading it, its always in the back of my head i might just need a little push

this thread is literally
>arguing with holes

t. Dio

>hurr doppio only had the hands so it was weaker
>meanwhile many characters only summon one apendage of their stand on ocasion and it's never implied to be any weaker

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God I hate KCfujos so much. The mental jerkoff to argue how Diavolo could even TOUCH Dio is too much.

>it doesn't help that Joseph wasn't very creative in using it.
That's the biggest dissapointment when it comes to part 3. Joseph could have done so much with HP if he was still in character, especially if he mixed it up with Hamon.

Fine faggot.
In that case, Cream is stronger.

Same thing with C-Moon. Pucci treats his Stands like his teenage sons

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What could he have done with it?

>A year is nothing
Uhm, sweetie????

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thats 5th grade biology in germoney
I heard mutt spawn get taught that venous blood is blue, is that true?

>polnareff cuts diavolo
>tards will still pretend KC is invincible and would win against DIO

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do some cool asspulls

>using the anime as evidence

I couldn't find these panels and those shots are the same as they were in the manga, you keep grasping but everyone with a brain knows KC hasn't done anything impressive

>polnareff skewered dio
>tards will still pretend dio wouldnt die tripmine

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Silver Chariot is one of the fastest stands in JoJo

The Doppio panel didn’t exist in the manga.

Star Platinum and The World are stronger

One was a fight and one was a suprise attack

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Strongest stand and yet cant grab an arrow

t. jobbio
just admit that the strongest one is polnareff

araki didn't know what to do with King Crimson's ability, he's supposed to erase ANY attack, just as he did with the bullets-

who the fuck couldn't defeat Kars? he literally can't even see their stands

>what! you're anemic?
>NANI?!

It really amazes me how people severely underestimate D4C. Valentine had access to an infinite number of alternate universes and at one point made multiple universes exist at once. I think Araki didn't realise how insanely powerful that ability is.

More like Araki realized and that's why Valentine conveniently forget he could merge multiverse after he got on the train
He also made it suck ass as a punch ghost too