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Endgame brothers right here
>I just want everyone to be happy...
So is the manga actually supposed to end soon because it looks like it could go on for another 100 chapters to me
>Zeke i...
The next I don't know
But the last one will show Eren named his child after someone Zeke cares about. That will be the point in which Zeke will give away his body and Ymir's rights so Eren doesn't die
mating press hisu
Just to work on that. Ymir will use Zeke's body as material for Eren's reconstruction, which will actually give him royal blood even.
No reason to kill Historia now.
6D Chess.
Eren will kill the manlet (This is not the next memory by the way)
1. She's Krista, not Ymir. Zeke doesn't know shit.
2. Eren will die.
>mfw i see a pregnant woman in the retail store
My day is ruined.
The child's hence isn't even known, it's not like they have ultrasound to have a look at it.
that would be fucked up and also hilarious
Stop lying to me!
Idc but I pray someone kills Gabi. How the hell could a girl that size use that damn rifle
>Realism only matters when it caters to characters I don't like
She's probably dislocated her soldier if it's any consolation.
>Zeke, i'm pregnant. And you are the father.
You have EH spamming and AA which is just one frozen girl and a guy who spent less time with Annie than Mikasa did with Eren. Really makes you think how insecure they are and how obsessed they are with the bimbos
>die
brainlet
lmao Zecucks are pathetic
>Point the big metal stick at Eren
>Press the trigger
>profit?
>Get sent flying backwards
Don't see anything wrong with it
Isn't Krista just Ymir in a censored version of the story?
What's a lie? What's the truth?
Uncle Zeke is the cutest meme
Same. But apparently everyone thinks it ends in 10 chapters or so. Which would be too rushed.
There's nothing wrong with liking AA or EH
These aren't even anything like the actual characters.
Krista is real. Rod knew about her too.
This panel is also a really suspicious.
>If its a girl, we name her X. Otherwise, we name it Y
Done
Congratulations.
lewd
I'm not saying that but EM always had more proofs. The scarf moment needs to happen yet you still seem to be insecure calling EMfags delusional
>all fanart
Guess what day it is
>The scarf moment needs to happen yet
oh, so you are just a troll
>Killed Mike is a merciless manner
>Killed the entire survey corps in a game of baseball
>Let his entire hometown get destroyed
>Gassed and transformed possibly thousands of people
>Gets a redemption storyline
How does this make you feel?
Be honest with my anons, is she eve getting out of that crystal? Will she just die? Is she dead already?
>He actually thinks Zeke will be redeemed
I forgive him because his daddy was mean to him
If it makes the fujos and manletwhales seethe, so be it.
>Annie resides in Paths ever since she surrounded herself in the crystal. That makes Eren next destination obvious, he is going to talk to Annie
Devilish
I'm so happy!
How ugly is Manlet going to look with all those scars in the manga?
What would he say to her? "It's cool I don't hate you, might have to eat you in a little while"?
Will he kill Connie in self-defense?
Scars make you more attractive, especially a big one over your eye
Remember when Isayama did this and he got away with it?
>bort looking happy the slut gets raped day and night
Annie was useless and only used for the tits of the warriors. Checked.
Spoken like someone who has looked upon more cartoon faces than real ones.
He was the Coolest Guy!
Why couldn't Pieck save Bert? Cucke isn't the one controlling her.
Got away with what?
It's almost like SnK is a manga and not reality
The shrapnel reached the bone, there's no way it's going to scar nicely.
RBY was the superior trio
Very gooooooooooooooooood
>Ymir created the millions of Colossal titans and the Walls with her bare hands.
How long did it take her in Path time?
>muh I trust muh comrades
>leaves Bort to die even though she could've easily snatched him and Eren in her mouth
Based Piis
10000 years
I wonder how this tranny will die
Hundreds of infinities probably. ;_;
>implying that zeke isnt the slave of ymir
Zeke is the hero destined to save the world from Eren.
What was the purpose of the last chapter? Eren already knew about Grisha's memories and told Zeke about it. Why are they going through them again? Zeke might have the tism, but he isn't that stupid. He had several years in path to come up with a plan to convince Eren too. This doesn't make sense.
Never forgive
Moving the goalposts back to where they were, scars almost always make you look less attractive.
Reiner was a shit warrior back in marley before getting the Armor
but how did he achieve top score in the island recruits, he only lost against an ackerman
From ecstasy when she learns that Zeke is literally a god and loli goddess of his slave
He had prior training and was older than most of the recruits
>Armin is Helos!
>Reiner is Helos!
>Magath is Helos!
>Gabi is Helos!
>Zeke is Helos!
Give it up. Rumbling soon.
Reiner was shit compared to the other warriors, he was still one of the strongest Eldians. And his leadership skills went a long way in Paradise.
still he lost to Bert and Annie, who were both better back in Marley
>and another 13 years of suffering
>lost
fuck I meant they lost to him
Mainly the purpose was to show Zeke out playing Eren so he doesn't look like a complete fool when Eren defeats him.
everyone is a virgin in a series except farmer boy and his wrench.
Eren will set the Goddess free.
Pii is a coward. At least she's redeeming herself here.
YMIR GIVE ME YOUR POWERS
JUST FUCKING GIVE THEM TO ME
Annie was barely trying. Perhaps Reiner surpassed Berthold when he spent two years as a lumberjack.
Bert was ranked lower than Reiner on Paradis because he lacked initiative
I think they're actually serious, user.
Great, because I love the character and the fact that he makes so many characterfags and shipfags seethe.
YMIR
WHO DO YOU THINK IS MORE WORTHY
GIVE ME YOUR POWERS
Nobody cares about Blort
>Nobody cares about Blort
you shut your mouth
>What was the purpose of the last chapter?
It was just an excuse to draw pictures of baby Eren
Eren just told him vaguely about the Reiss cave incident, Zeke needed to see for himself the kind of life Grisha led inside the Walls to realize he was trying to reform himself. It'll go down the shitter when they reach the cave memories again though, that's for certain.
Nice,because I love Zeke
I want Eren and Zeke to hug and become true friends, the world can burn for all I care.
He turned into a Chad after deciding to LARP as Marcel
I'm loving it. If he gets one friendship moment with Levi too, I will worship Isayama as a god.
>It'll go down the shitter when they reach the cave memories again though, that's for certain.
What makes you say that?
Then they did a pretty bad job at it. Zeke seems like a fool for forgetting about what eren said and making his great plan to get eren on his side worthless.
a lot can happen in 10 chapters.
Feels great.
Not with this pacing.
Cripplet will cry and seeth as GODke saves Eldia alongside his bro.
why didn't he just catch the ball?
eren will genocide every race outside of paradis. that can happen in 10 chapters.
At least it isn't a selfie cover with just the warriors. That would have been truly seething material.
>wrench
Kek
Did he put it up his arse?
Based
The Rumbling will probably start at the end of this volume to keep the cliffhanger
Yeah, no.
Ah, that makes more sense. Still kind of stupid, Zeke could assume that Eren could have seen more memories but like you said, it was probably about all about himself and his realizations anyway.
wouldn't be surprised.
i meant wench
>Grisha eats Frieda and crushes all the royal family then rushes to his 10 year old son and picks him up to force his titan powers onto him after using the exact same words he's used countless times for most of Zeke's childhood to justify his terrible decision when Keith confronts him about it: "He's special, cause he's my son"
What do you think Zeke will think of that?
And that's a good thing!
Eren has autism, please understand.
Because Levi was chasing them
Can they do more than hug?
BASED
Will you sperg everytime bort is mentionned, AAschizo?
Based Grichad
It will happen. Zeke doesn't hate Levi. He already admit that. Now Levi needs to let go of his autistic promise and they can fight along side each other.
>the founder can change eldian bodies at will
>meaning it can set up mpreg and make incest less risky
Based. ZE is canon.
Zeke could not care less about Shitlet. He was just one of many obstacles to his goal, and now he doesn't matter anymore since he's crippled and worthless.
I love them so much ;_;
Tick tock, EHfags.
>Made the nips draw plenty of baby Ereh
>Made the nips draw more (Yeager) family bonding shits
He did it... He finally did it. He just has to make sure that Eren didn't force Historia into pregnancy regardless of the father.
EHtists you mean
>Can they do more than hug?
Yeah, go kill literal faggots like you next.
Same
>Zeke doesn't hate Levi
I'm sure Levi will feel the same and end up having lollipops with Sieg at the beach.
You are an idiot.
*everyone except BEST ALLY Hizuru
ftfy
She's already pregnant here.
But I'm not a fag
No no no no no EHtists you wrong
>Eren betrays Zeke
>Zeke doesn't blame him and wants to heal him
I cried like a bitch.
that means farmer impregnated her then
I hope farmer gets a name cause I might actually start shipping them
Levi Ackerman x Mikasa Ackerman sex chapter when?
>SnK is an NHK show
YEEES
Yes yes yes YH/EM/fujo/retardbro
>using AA fanart
Kill yourself Joseph
I'm not :)
Is Zeke the purest and cutest character ever written?
He is the most pathetic, that's for sure.
you wouldn't say she was already pregnant if you supported EH. you would say something like "right before he pounded her to make her stop crying."
Nice catch
HF-CHADS ASSEMBLE
Next chapter:
>Zeke forgives Grisha and breaks down crying
>Eren holds him and as Grisha he tells him he loves him and that he's glad Zeke was born into the world.
What if Historia loves Farmer and Eren just asked her to get pregnant for the plan?
So is Isayama ripping off EH fanartists or are they just really good at predicting things?
>to get pregnant for the plan
What plan?
If she loved him they'd be married. But they're not.
Nice headcanon you have there. It will be a shame when Isayama will break it.
Than a whole lot of Yea Forumsutists are gonna be mad
That was pretty predictable at the first place.
It actually says they didn't have a wedding ceremony but you can get married without one. You just need a priest.
SNK pacing is very inconsistent.
Chapter 96 did nothing except show shit we already knew about but then 97 had a Kenny flashback, showing Reiner deciding to destroy the Trost wall, Reiner trying to kill himself, Eren's comeback, Eren and Falco's conversation, Willy's introduction and a hint for his plans with Magath.
Chapter 111 was just Nicolo sperging out in a restaurant, Gabi learning that devils are the same as her and Falco drinking the wine while112 has got Eren telling Mikasa that he has always hated her and then beating the crap out of Armin, the Jaegerists arresting the SL, Floch being revealed to be part of the wine plot, ZL banter, Pixis trying to have Eren eaten, manlet getting an Ackerman headache and Zeke screaming.
the pregnancy is faked. there is no reason for her to be pregnant for the themes or plot of the storyl.
CUTE
And it will be GLORIOUS.
Some fake spoilers called him Stephen and others Charles
Manlet pls
Eren's story will soon be over, but spinoffs could go potentially forever.
Shhhhh. They don't want to talk about this
>being this insecure
>Scrooge had a business partner named Marley
Bravo Isayama!
At least he's taller than the average woman. Hell at least he has all his fingers...
cooooope
But I'm not surprised if Eren and Historia have been secretly married GOT style
Based trips
Any ErwLfujo reactions to the Marie letter yet?
>rumbling is the only open plotpoint left
God I wish
Looks like out of the perspective of the Farmer here
Member the false memories theory?
idk but I want A Great Titan War Arc.
That doesn't make him less of a pathetic brocon.
Eren is the Farmer?! Wow!
It turned out that Eren has got magical regenerating clothes that even made it to the paths dimension
You start using language like "secretly married" and I just imagine a teenager on their laptop typing up fanfiction. I can't take you seriously dude.
No, because it's the old smartpass that fujos have already known about from some years.
>Falco will impregnate THIS
Keep seething, I'm sure Zeke cares greatly after blowing manlet away.
Kek, next you'll say that farmer will inherit attack Titan
Isayama is a fan of GOT
ROCK ME AMADEUS
I miss Kenny.
I even posted the manga page to prove it. But it's fine if you want to live in your fantasy world.
He's a fan of a lot of things, your point?
>Zeke cares greatly
About what.
He only cares about MUH EREH, who thinks he is a sad old fuck and MUH DEVIL DAD, who wasn't all that bad.
Sad.
2cute
They were kind of upset in the previous thread
I'm not saying that Sieg hates manlet, I'm saying you shouldn't be too hopeful that manlet doesn't hate his guts after all that he did.
I was being facetious lol. You can reduce any character down to a derogatory summary. For instance manlet only cares about MUH PROMISE which Erwin wouldn't give a fuck about and MUH DEAD COMRADES who died because he wouldn't cooperate with Zeke.
If Eren have been fucked Historia, he may take responsibility before God. SnK is a christian manga.
Caring about your brother isn't pathetic
>You can reduce any character down to a derogatory summary
But you had to admit Sieg's is the most pathetic summary of all derogatory summaries.
That's just how it is.
The explosion was Levi's fault though. He can hate him for turning the soldiers into titans. But if Levi managed to get along with him for an entire month before he tried to feed him to someone, he can also understand that Zeke's actions were necessary.
Projecting your insecurities on him, when he just doesn't care, and sporting a saviour complex to boot when nobody needs it is quite sad.
>mfw Zeke cares so much about not failing as a big brother with Eren because Grisha failed so hard as a dad with him
I don't have the same hateboner for him so no I don't think so. He's trying to help his people, he's doing it in a stupid way but at least he's doing something while most characters in the story just sort of hang around being gloomy.
People who think Eren fucked Historia (EHfats) are the most dumbest people i ever met
Ackerman family spin-off when?
Reiner fucked Historia
>he can also understand that Zeke's actions were necessary.
What manga have you been reading.
Manlet cares about his subordinates the most. Forget the promise, the fact that Sieg made him kill them all so he could escape is probably unforgivable to him.
>Uncle Zeke! Uncle Zeke!
This is too good.
cope
>Recoil means the devil is dead
what if i think historia fucked eren?
You didn't get the memo?
>Before you go there's one favor I want to ask of you
What was it?
Not fucking Eren isn't.
Yet he is all "brainwash brainwash", without listening to him.
He is a selfrighteous prick.
I'm gonna enjoy his mindbreak and tears when he finds out that Grisha wasn't that bad.
>dead
brainlet
It's his own fault, he found out that the Jaegerists were taking over the island and still decided to do nothing. Zeke wasn't gonna sit around and wait to die.
and thats a good thing
Because Levi is so innocent and has never killed people before. Both of them did questionable things for a "good" purpose. Levi will get that.
I'm a HEchad, though. Historia fucked Eren.
YArmin chads
It's a joke making fun of the idiots who complained about the lack of recoil, don't be stupid. Eren isn't dead.
"Come home alive."
Help make this.
Will this ever be finished?
Eren is the exception that proves the rule. Most of the characters barely do anything to affect the plot and for the record they're all self righteous pricks too.
keep telling yourself that deluded cuck
He had orders.
That will not make him suddenly forgive him and shake hands.
Reminder that Ymir is pulling the strings.
I like the cameos he makes every now and then. One of my top-tier favorite characters.
At least they are with a reason, survival.
Not dooming a whole race to extinction because muh daddy was mean.
He's behaving like a fucking child.
Oh
Sadly nothing out of MPs’ conversation could imply they were married or engaged with each other. That and about half a dozen of reasons why it doesn’t make any sense, but yeah.
Very cute
All this baby art from fujos. Abe is so proud right now.
Nothing except that rather than saying "they're not even married", Rogue says "there wasn't even a wedding". There's also nothing to suggest they're not married.
I want
I'm here sis
What's his endgame?
I want an adult Eren to impregnate me so I can have a baby Eren like this!
>Because Levi is so innocent and has never killed people before
Completely different. It was self-defense.
Sieg ran away like a coward knowing he could just spill the beans and try other approaches, but he killed the whole platoon, knowing perfectly well that he will be killing them from the start -hence the wine- and I'm not counting all those he's killed until then.
It would've been more forgivable if he had done it because Marley ordered it, but he did it because he is a fanatical messiah, who is wrong from head to toe, on a high horse.
Cringe.
Cooking quality doner kebab meat on a rotating grill before selling it to drunk 20-somethings at 4AM in the morning.
OK I get it you just hate Zeke.
Rogue would habe no reason to lowkey call Historia a whore if she had bothered with basic formality like officially marrying the guy, user. If it was pointed out then it's clearly a detail worth keeping in mind, which wouldn't be the case if it just boiled down "They didnt hold a ceremony but they got married anyway so whatever"
Marrying Ymir Yeager-Reiss!
kek
Well.
I thought it was obvious.
I think in the raws is pretty straightforward that they are not married
This. Everyone knows Mikasa x Historia is the real endgame.
Eren would never let a mongspawn near his daughter.
Its not really that different at all. They both are willing to kill for what they believe. Zeke says that manlet will never understand him and he is right, they will never see eye to eye. If Zeke had waited around they would have killed him, his only option was to make a run for it. Also don't you start calling people cowards when manlet's main strategy for fighting Zeke is hiding away until there is an opening.
Don't you have more "EHtist" to spam? We're still a long way from your outstanding 20+ results from the last thread.
Except that she hooked up and got pregnant by a guy she barely knew? Come on user, think.
>No one mentions the farmer newly gained political status as either prince-consort of the king of Paradis
>No one refers farmer as Historia’s spouse or husband, just as some random dude
>Neil didn’t bother to protect or mention Historia’s and farmer’s “union” after Rogue openly mocked Historia for seemingly sleeping with some random peasant
>monarch of the country marrying anyone without wedding ceremony is absurd, unless they’re secretly engaged with each other which is even more ridiculous
>Historia (apparently) wants to create a family with someone but does not want to hold a wedding ceremony for some reason
(You)
Can you please post the translation?
>Imagine liking a self hating cuck
DELETE THIS!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
I cannot be bothered write out a big response explaining to you why everything you just said is flawed. It's easier to just wait a few months and tell you I told you so.
>>Falco will impregnate THIS
Eren*
>No argument
As expected.
Hello Sapewloth(nigger)
>Erenpedos
Good point, but Eren suddenly showing sexual interest in anyone after hundreds of chapters in which he -never- did isn't much more realistic.
>you are a slave to zeke
>eren is pissed
>do you no longer care about historia?
>almost transform on hange
Beside the time when he used his founding titan power, were there any instances which eren titan marks appear without using his titan power? He was extremely angry at hange (armin calling him a slave Is nothing to pic)
See you in a few months!
>I told you so
>prince-consort of the king of Paradis
Or* the king
> Thinking Levi will let Zeke slip through his grasp again
>Zeke says that manlet will never understand him and he is right
Because only loonie Yelena understands him, because she is as fanatical and bonkers as him.
"Oh no, the terrorist that wants to kill us all because he believes it's the best for us feels sorry about it, poor thing.
He kills us while mocking us anyway."
Yeah, not buying it.
This is still the most strong reaction of Eren so far
>seething so much that you falseflag as a pedophile
Genuinely one human to another, I pity you. You must be very miserable.
I felt a bit bad for Hange there
Well he did show a caring side to historia. Consider how jean mention that they have been practicing holding hand and eren visiting the orphanage (smartpass that is supervised by isayama). There is a panel which shows eren smiling because historia is happy. Not to mention the fact that she literally save his back then. I think eren can fall in love.
>>Historia (apparently) wants to create a family with someone
Cannot wait to see your tears stupid Mikasawhales. Uncle Zeke soon.
?
I hope manlet kills him just before he thinks he got his way. And tortures him a little bit before while Eren watches and does nothing to save him.
Just for maximum despair.
At least you called him Armin.
He's the next protagonist, not Gabi
EH isn't about romance but about family and parenthood, like Grisha and Dina/Carla.
what's your point with this?
He killed thousands to save millions. He dindu nuthin'
Removing titans from the world so that no one has to suffer from them isn't crazy as much as you might want it to be. And Zeke doesn't want to kill anyone, he wants Eldia to just quietly die naturally. Zeke's ideology is fundamentally flawed but you being willfully ignorant and not making any effort to understand him is just boring, especially when I could just as easily call manlet a bloodthirsty sadist who only cares about revenge and it wouldn't even be inaccurate.
>feet a bit bad for hange
Yeah calling him a slave would be better than saying he no longer care about historia. Honestly hange doesn’t deserved this. Too bad she literally picks the words to say to eren
Why would he do that to his mom
Very edgy. Manlet will never get his revenge on Zeke. Cry about it now to save yourself later.
The worst words*
She doesn't want to create a family, she has to. Which is why she cries in the same chapter and is shown to be apathic now after the timeskip. It's her burden.
Meant for
More like some dude from her childhood with Rogue explictely stating he gave no fucks about how their relationship began. If the absence of a wedding didn't imply the absence of an official union, why would he bring it up as a reason to call her a slut in the first place?
>creating a family = being rescuing to a breeding sow
Kys, YHwhale.
Maybe it’s becashe she falsely accused him. I mean eren did get genuinely angry when armin called him a slave to zeke (which was btfo by this chapter). I guess when hange accused him for something he didn’t do (and is doing the opposite of her accusation), he became murderously pissed
Read manga slower next time, retard.
>rescuing
Meant reduced*
You realize that the current pregnancy isn't part of the pic in that was the focal point in the MP convo you people can't let go even though has already lost any validity
>manlet a bloodthirsty sadist who only cares about revenge
I wish, if he only cared about revenge he would've killed him back at Liberio. Or at the forest. But something tells me he won't be making the same mistake again. Probably because he won't be able to, as sad as that makes me.
And removing titans may be what Eren has planned, but he doesn't want to die. He isn't a pathetic, complex ridden, bearded royal.
She must hate karl the cuck
>Manlet will never get his revenge on Zeke
I know that.
Dreaming is free, isn't it?
Just posting this as a reminder since people have forgotten it.
Nope, there isn't. Not sure what Eren would have unleashed on Hange had she not broken the grip but it wouldn't have been pretty.
What did he see?
All Pissu had to do was keep her legs closed, but I guess that's too hard for her.
Reminder that Hisu is older than Eren
Removing titans from the world is what Zeke wants. So that no one has to suffer from them. Stop dancing around that fact because it doesn't line up with this "Zeke is pure evil" narrative.
And manlet WAS about to kill Zeke in the forest because that is all he cares about. He made his mind up that he was going to kill Zeke no matter what Pixis said. If Zeke hasn't made a run for it he would be dead.
His autistic future self and brother running away
I unironcially think eren is the father because it goes well with current theme (family). I think eren being father show that eren didn’t use his own son for his goal (grisha) instead he fight for his son. Consider how the parallel between EH and GD are so similar that you can’t dismiss it, I say eren being the father actually convinces zeke to be on eren side (because if eren is the father, the baby would parallel zeke)
Reminder that Zeke's goal is completely jusitifiable and is only seen as something bad because we read the story from the Eldians' perspective.
>Eventually removes the titan threat from the world
>The current living Eldians can live out their lives in peace
>Eldians on the continent can get more rights
Okay EHfat
I'm just stating what I saw. I'm not a YH shipper either. Tell me what is wrong with what I said or don't bother to reply.
Then elaborate how it's not part of it and how you would explain Historia's reaction.
I just noticed Hange is becoming much observant towards Eren at this moment to when he provoked him mentioning Hisu when he was in jail. Hange totally suspects something up between Eren and Hisu.
If Eren was the father than the conception of his own baby would itself be a tool in the operation to recover and safeguard Zeke. So no it doesn't really go along with the theme.
based
>EHfat
I have been called worst. This bring me memories when people call me a plotfag and an EHfag
>If Eren was the father than the conception of his own baby would itself be a tool in the operation to recover and safeguard Zeke.
Reading comprehension level = null.
Why do you act like Historia absolutely HAD to let the farmer creampie her? She should've stuck to eating Zeke, which she agreed with previously, but instead she brought an innocent baby into this mess to save herself.
>Well he did show a caring side to historia.
So did with Mikasa and Armin and his other friends.
>Consider how jean mention that they have been practicing holding hand
In the same scene Eren didn't understand why everyone got mad at Marlowe.
>and eren visiting the orphanage (smartpass that is supervised by isayama).
Historia was the only one blushing, Eren's face looked pretty blank.
>There is a panel which shows eren smiling because historia is happy.
Mikasa and Historia were having a bonding moment or some shit.
>Not to mention the fact that she literally save his back then.
Again, so did Mikasa, Armin and others saved him in the past.
The rights of those Eldians on the continent won't mean much if they're all dead though.
>removes the titan threat
That's literally just a guess. Ymir was only the first person we know of to acquire the power of the titans. This is magical shit. What we have now is a controlled system but if we fuck with it then who knows what will happen?
>live out their lives in peace
they would be raided and slaughtered
>more rights
they'll have the right to die on the end of a bayonet or starve to death in hiding while bombs drop everywhere
Read slower. They had wine for it.
The pregnancy was an accident and not a part of any plan. That will be the twist.
And this the reason nobody cares to argue with you people
Now this is the problem, the baby wasn’t necessary. I mean zeke already has his wine plan wayyy before he even arrive. Honestly I don’t even see the point of the pregnancy.
You=butthurt that I'm right
Eren almost killed her when she brought up Historia.
See
You read slower.
Wine isn't going to stop them feeding Zeke to Historia as soon as he sets foot on Paradis.
>Scarf
...jesus
Sex with Mikasa.
Zeke Xaver Yeager, the holy prophet, will save this world.
>Wine isn't going to stop them feeding Zeke to Historia as soon as he sets foot on Paradis.
Yes it would.
>*ahem*
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>MPs explode and chaos ensues
His redemption is dying to save Eren
>Mikasa and historia were having a bonding moment
Notice how he only smile after he ask historia “you seem happy”. Eren was interested in historia being happy
>so did Mikasa,armong,and the other
When I said save, I meant mentally. Historia and Carla are the two women who impact his mind after the uprising arc. Even isayama made a comment about it
The pregnancy actually hinders the plan proposed by Hizuru, if you actually read the chapter you should realise it in your own even without the MP talk, then Historia expression can be for a lot of things actually that has already been listed here if you want you can check the archive
Nice
*EHchads
>Imagine being a shitnigskronren self inserter...
So, what would Yelana and Zeke do if Historia wasn't pregnant? It's not easy to convince the fucking queen to become pregnant for the fucking euthanasia plan.
>Teenager has an emo phase
>Tell him he's right and that he should have never been born
Is Xaver the worst dad in the series?
>Zeke shouts
>MPs suddenly turn into pure titans
hisu feet are...
And if the team they send to take Zeke are not one of the few hundred that drank the wine but the few thousand that didn't?
Eren is dead. Zeke will father Eren's child in his stead.
What's this? do you people didn't read 116 to realize how effective the wine was? it literally subjugated the whole military in a couple of hours
It wasn't predictable at all though.
The constant resemblances are uncanny
Speaking of zeke and yelena, was the pregnancy even their plan? I remember something about how yelena said historia was fortunately pregnant which seem to indicate that she isn’t aware of the pregnancy plan(because she think historia pregnancy is lucky for her and zeke)
The threat of the wine made Pixis surrender. The wine he didn't even know about until a few weeks after Zeke landed.
>Zeke and Eren view more Grisha memories
>Grisha eventually realises this and start to talk to Zeke
>Tells him that he's sorry and was wrong to force his believes on him
>Tells him that he should have lived a normal life, because he was born into this world
True nobody here is asking why tf she didn't do anything for Frida as grisha pounded her and ate her or why karl the cuck had this vow power. She may not be as free but she is not a complete slave to royal blood and/or at the very minimum is not compelled to save those of royal blood. The titan that came and saved zeke was ymirs help and she healed him completely beyond the ability of a normal shifter
She raped him
They gathered the military in Shiganshina and like half of them drank the wine, so it's definitely more than a few hundred out of thousands.
What's her endgame?
>Zeke is pure evil
He wishes.
He's just a pathetic, self absorbed man.
Zeke is dying less then a year. The baby won't even be born when he dies.
Exactly they would be screwed. That's why Historia being pregnant is part of ZY's plan.
Because that's the most obvious choice from the information we have. I agree that there's something fishy about it, but nothing else explains so clearly why Historia seems to be so crushed. If it was just because MISSING MY LOVER, she'd look more concerned instead of defeated. It's very clear she doesn't like the pregnancy.
fucking huge
There are Literally a bunch of yeagerists around(who are also aware of the wine plan and they are mostly the survey Corp) all the other branches have already been fucked by the wine. The only group that weren’t affected,are eren friends.
The wine was there from starting 3 years ago user, read slower
raped by Chadren
not as cute as her pregnant belly
It's almost if she needed someone to break the vow of renouncing war so she could use her powers freely.
So self-absorbed that he gave up his lifespan to do what he thought was helping others. You know what, you stay mad about Zeke. Hope you enjoy watching him get a happy ending.
So you lost all arguments and just waiting for a holy mary
Waiting for her papa 2000 years later (Eren) to finally free her and end the curse.
Become a strong independent woman who don't need no royal blood master.
>incest
>never noticed the crackling electricity and Eren starting to glow up until now
This is the first time I've felt like a speedreader
>Historia was the only one blushing, Eren's face looked pretty blank.
Not him but I think you're confusing the anime scene with the smartpass
>Impling the endgame bros won't end the curse of the titans
user...
And it's not going to discourage the military from feeding Zeke to Historia if they don't know about it. Read slower, user.
That's a pretty violent reaction for just a false accusation when two minutes ago he was ready to listen to Hange's whole recollection of the Kiyomi flashback should've definitely understood that Hange was trying to get him to open up without casting judgement.
Contrary to Hange, neither Jean nor Armin handled things kids gloves when they both respectively accused Eren of causing Sasha's death and of being controlled by Zeke, but he had no reaction in the former case and just a hint of anger in the latter.
I know we've been arguing over this countless times since the chapter came out but now I really do think Historia has become just that much of a touchy subject for Eren.
Zeke doesn't know especially when he's against women getting pregnant. It was Eren and Yelanas plan.
She just CHOSE the less bad option out of two (becoming pregnant vs eating Zeke). No one could've forced her to get pregnant. She just thought it was the less shitty out of the two options, but it's still shitty, and that's why she's miserable.
>Eren in the cave thinks life is meaningless
>Lost faith in his father, tied up, crying like a baby, totally emasculated
>Historia is on the verge of becoming a literal lesbian YASSQWEEN and GODDESS
>Sike, she rejects it all to save Eren because maternal instincts and abandonment issues kick in when he says he shouldn't have been born
>Now she's pregnant with his kid
>Zeke will be cured of his anti-natalist, nihilistic, racial guilt-laced cuckery by a memory of a lesbian ICON rejecting literal Godhood to save a boy and then becoming pregnant with his kid
>Mankasa will never get the prize
The feminists and lesbians are unironically going to neck themselves
He's not wrong. The scarf has to be brought up again. It's basic storytelling
You mean she wanted war or do you mean she couldn't protect Frida cause of the vow
Nah, it's said in one of the chapters It's only a few hundred. Paradis military is much larger than that.
BASED
I think it’s a touchy subject in general for eren He probably hurt historia when he decide to leave to marley
>Notice how he only smile after he ask historia “you seem happy”. Eren was interested in historia being happy
There was a MH panel after that
>When I said save, I meant mentally. Historia and Carla are the two women who impact his mind after the uprising arc. Even isayama made a comment about it
Again, Mikasa also was compared to Carla and Armin too did "save him mentally" back in the Trost arc.
Reread ffs
I mean that it would have been benificial for her to have someone break the vow for her.
I love REINER!
mai husbando love forever~~
>larger than that
And the wine plan worked. Even then there are a huge amount of yeagerist around lurking in the shadow,and floch could cause an uprising among the civilian
It wasn't any plan.
Grior told Yelena about the whole pregnant queen stuff about a week ago.
It was
Eren destroyed it.
Louise has it now
It's over
Both you are retarded speedreaders with zero level reading comprehension, there was no use of Historia getting pregnant when Zeke already had a much better insurance i.e wine.
What's his master plan
Reminder Gabi is a slut
Given how effective it was i don't know why is this still an argument
Hisu will feel less miserable once her chadren returns to her. It's not easy for a women to be in labor and worry about someone doing something you don't agree with.
I love that every single strong independent female icon in the series gets subverted into being someone's bitch
I meant pushing him to go forward. Also can you show the panel when he compare Mikasa to Carla? I don’t remember that scene too well
>there was a MH panel after that
So ? Eren was shown to be interested in historia happiness
SOON
But wouldn't just mean more war=more titans? She has to form all of them and she doesn't look to happy about it
Some people in Stohess having drink the wine isn't gonna make a different to the soldiers who nab Zeke as soon as he steps off that blimp user.
>Eren brings back Armin so he can achieve his dream
>Proceeds to ruin it for Armin by showing no interest in the ocean whatsoever
What a waste
Not them but if the wine is enough, why did Zeke wait a whole month and made also sure all the soldiers drank the wine before using it?
>Gabi
>worry
Saving this post
One of the most iconic objects in the series is going to disappear with a random literal who. Yes user, top marks.
Mehmet will cuck Falco
The exception that proves the rule
>conceives a baby solely to save her own skin
How can anyone like this piece of shit?
She waiting for Eren every day but he never come back.
Will Hisu ever be happy?
Good, hold onto that hate. I'll just move on and enjoy life.
I dunno, ask Eren.
He and Yelena didn't wanted to use the wine, they waited for paradis government to allow them to make the rumbling experiments on their own, but that wasn't the case
Once the harvest comes in and her farmer can buy her a nice wedding ring so they can get married. Her first baby will be a bastard but it least the next one won't be.
It’s not only the stohess soldier. Everyone even pixis soldier are affected. The military corps are also affected. The only who aren’t the the survey Corp and a bunch of them are yeagerist
300 soldiers isn't "some people in Stohess". The plan was there from the start because Zeke was banking on that as his life insurance, and it was so fucking effective the whole military surrendered as soon as he screamed.
what did zekek mean by this
She needs to wait a long while
>12 year old
>High School
Any reason for not using the coordinate back on Liberio?
Don't listen to the pedos replying, you are correct
By all accounts Gabi should be killed by Connie or Jean immediately after she shoots Eren but it won't happen. Fuck Gabi.
By the time the child is born it will have served its purpose. It's still "born free".
When Eren comes back to her
Nobody is getting a happy ending.
I think Historia would kill herself if she had to marry farmer. She already looks like she has lost all hope
Don't bully, he has been thinking long and hard about that line.
Was always wondering what was the point of even getting Grior there just to have him shittalk Sasha for two panels and then kill him off. It'd make sense he was the one who informed Yelena of what was discussed among the MPs following the SC and the volunteers' return. He had closer ties to her than Nicolo and he didn't bother denying the accusation of becomg her lapdog.
Bare with me okay? ~300 soldiers are infected with the wine. Paradis military is AT LEAST a few thousand. 3000 is actually more than 300. So the probability that the soldiers that pick up Zeke (especially if they're not officers) have drunk the wine is very low. The wine by itself is not a guaranteed success. Understand?
It was so effective that it couldn't stop a single soldier (Levi) from killing him. Good thing he had sand loli ex machina to save him.
Yes user, it's already gone
>not a single good post ITT
What went wrong?
I don't know how to make this any clearer, the "plan" required all the military backing down and surrendering once they knew they were compromised. They cannot back down and surrender if they don't even know they've been poisoned and they would not know that when Zeke first arrived. Nothing is going to stop them from grabbing Zeke.
Show me the proof where it’s said it’s only affect a hundred soldier
In order to save Ymir they probably need to get back her soul shards, how is that going to happen?
Farmer is a good man and did nothing wrong.
Lmao that's what you get for putting feelings on a piece of clothing
I think this is page two?
Gorgeous
It must have been awkward as hell when he realized she became queen
Papa eats everyone.
Yelena would never do anything behind her God's back, especially not if it went against his ideology. Either Eren and Historia planned something on their own that we don't know about or they didn't plan anything at all and things got exponentially more complicated as a result.
Manlet killed Erwin :)
>t. dogkasa
Marry me!
Do me a favour and don't be a writer user. It's not your strong suit.
Nah, snk isn't as bad as Berserk
>Will papa or uncle Zeke ever save me from Mehmet?
Chapter 117 Pieck says the number is 300
Ellen's plump breasts
>they didn't plan anything at all and things got exponentially more complicated as a result.
Unironically the most likely scenario at this point. What a time to be alive.
What would the reaction be if the accident meme was true?
Yeah, it might explain why the significant memory of her that he sees this chapter is her crying (their last convo maybe) and why he told Falco it was too hard to face his family, assuming she and baby are the ones he's talking about.
He would just look like a chink, Mikasa. You have to let him impregnate an Eldian girl if you want an actual baby Ereh
Only after Eren and Mikasa stopped him from using it immediately
Immense shitstorm and lotta memes, as expected.
It actually could work, i don't get the obsession from people that want everything to be "muh keikaku"
No matter what the actual truth is, their first conversations after she noticed him must've been awkward either way. Guy slaved away for years because he felt bad about throwing a rock at her and then she shows up one day and either asks to fuck her or to play daddy for her unborn child.
This.
Anyway, both had to die.
Armong surviving was a mistake.
It's fucking Levi, man. He was always gonna be a problem, regardless of the circumstances because he's just that much more broken than anyone else. And he was actually gonna kill Zeke despite receiving no such orders, so obviously the pregnancy isn't what saved Monkey Man there.
That one at the end of uprising when they were eating in vhapter 70 I think. Also I think there's another one in chapter 73 before Eren sealed the first hole.
>So ? Eren was shown to be interested in historia happiness
He could also be glad that Hisu now has someone of a similar status as her own and feel less isolated, that sort of thing. I'm just saying it's a possibility.
The pregnancy isn't about protecting Zeke, that's just a secondary effect. It protects Historia because they can't turn her into a titan for the duration of the pregnancy, since they need that child and can't risk her either.
Historia watches the horizon every day waiting for him.
He's never coming home.
Soon. Ghostke and Ghostren dlc soon
Aside from Hange who uncovered the wine plot with AMJC, none of the soldiers infected whom we saw react to the wine knew they were poisoned or what caused their reaction at the moment Zeke screamed: they were clearly informed after it happened so I have no idea what point you're even trying to make with this.
He WILL come back to her.
Do Isayama a favour and don't be a reader user. It's not your strong suit.
Why did you cut Historia's face, user? Farmer must have been delighted to see her approach him with such a radiant smile.
What would Zeke's stance be on gay sex? It doesn't produce children, or is Zeke disgusted by sex in general?
They already touched hands for months to see all possible futures.
In how many does Eren return? zero
What if they had bound and gagged Zeke before reaching Paradis? Can't scream means the wine is useless.
This plan doesn't seem as foolproof as people think.
Yes just like color has been brought up to be red.. oh wait it's black
Wrong.
The pregnancy is not about protecting anyone. Eren is against brainwashing children to carry out their parents' wishes. The big reveal will be that they fell in love and Eren is risking his life to keep her safe instead of taking the easy way out and condemning their children to short lives controlling the founder.
The last chaper is gonna be a timeskip after the rumbling where Eren goes to the same tree where AOT began. He will then touch it as it calls him closer until the paths grant him another 13 years to grow up with his daughter. Tbh i believe the curse of yimir is gonna extend to 26 years with paths magic.
New bread baked
>the world is facing destruction because two retarded teenagers got too horny
I want this.
>300 infested soldier
I wonder what happen to the other thousand of soldier
>yelena said luckily
This is what confusing me. If that line didn’t exist then it is definitely sure that historia pregnancy is zeke plan(yelena plan since zeke doesn’t know that eren care about historia)
>Tfw Eren is going away to Marley
Because I laid focus on farmer and his motives, not the royal thot.
1) They didn't know
2) They didn't know Zeke can create titans by SCREAMING
3) Those who might have known wouldn't have risked their families' lives for it
>This cope
What's the first effect, then? If you tell me "for the euthanasia" you can kindly fuck off because that's diametrically opposed to Zeke's philosophy and makes his whole convo with Eren in 115 completely illogical.
>Fresh bread
>Fresh bread
>Fresh bread
>Fresh bread
>Fresh bread
new thread created
>chapter 70
It’s literally Mikasa asking eren why he didn’t his soup
>chapter 73
I don’t find any beside armin speech about eren saving him or something.
When I said historia save eren, I meant that she literally help move forward. Carla and historia both push him away from his depressive state and make him fight
Hey speedreader, the euthanasia plan relies on children with royal blood to be constantly pumped out.
Go read the series a few hundred times before talking shit.
>absolutely no argument whatsoever
Sasuga.
>save her
I mean, she gave no fucks about Armin when he was risking his life for her, she has precedent of being selfish, i wonder if Eren went away to make a better world for the child and Historia was like
>nah, fuck eldia, lets just go away and live our own lives
>Mikasa and Historia were having a bonding moment or some shit.
t. mentally ill EMwhale
Cringe
The MPs already admitted the pregnancy is why they didn't immediately feed Zeke to Historia, so even if it was accidental (it wasn't) it has already served the purpose of protecting her from becoming a titan.
He is gay. He touched Levi's PP as soon as he got the chance and even shares Birthdays with Reiner. All this talk about not having children is just a cover up.
Cute
t. EMtrash
>Farmer
>Motives
What motives would the farmer have?
*Farmerchad and plotchad
The Fritz have been using Ymir as a slave for 2000 years (not counting the eternities where she had to build the titans)
What the fuck was wrong with them, why did no one stop this?
No wonder Karl the cuck lost his shit.
Read the manga retard, basically says ZY's plan her pregnancy wasn't needed just brought up as protecting her from becoming a titan because they didn't know the wine existed
Try reading the whole post before commentating. It's about protecting Historia, a purpose it has already successfully served.
He had a quick flashback to his family when she told him that. Same in chapter 73 when he looked back at Mikasa.
t. Shipperfag with nothing intelligent to say
Being based and dedicated to his waifu.
I'd really like to know this too, but like his face it will probably never be revealed
Wait when did Carla pull him out of his depressive state?
>>the euthanasia plan relies on children with royal blood to be constantly pumped out
>when the euthanasia plan literally consists in sterilizing all Eldians
>when all Eldians are meant to go extinct in less than 100 years, meaning even a single young royal blooded individual who would be titanized in time of need would be enough
>when Yelena clearly stated that several FTs would be passed down until Historia's kid reaches the end of their life
Did you just get confused with the 50 year plan or are you just this much of a dumb speedreader?
They don't need to know Zeke's powers. They bound and gagged Eren when they were gonna feed him to Historia.
>He had a quick flashback to his family when she told him that. Same in chapter 73 when he looked back at Mikasa
Because he was talking carelessly about Grisha which Mikasa also considered a father in no moment he compared her with Carla
Listen here retard I don't care about shipping but using Eren's smile around MH when his discussion one panel before that was about asking her mental state just makes you mentally ill and probably delusional just saying
>They spend too much time fighting over who's going to get the serum
>Armin and Erwin are both dead by the time they make a decision
And ? Compare to historia and Carla, it’s not as impactful as historia action
After he heard his father story. “You are great because you are born into this world”
The MPs had no idea they were literally getting drunk on what would actually cause their downfall and protect Zeke, though. So the more paranoid ones (Rogue) would obviously assume that the pregnancy was the only thing jeopardizing their plans and the one single thing Zeke relied on to keep himself alive after reaching the island.
Literally just making up for his past mistakes, which Historia could easily appeal to in order to get him to help her out.
That doesn't matter. The wine wasn't what stopped the plan, the pregnancy was.
Let see here
>yelena saw eren refusing zeke plan because he doesn’t like the 50 years pregnancy plan
>ask eren to make historia pregnant then prepare for the 50 years plan (even though he disliked it)
I think it’s either isayama shit writing or yelena being stupid. Tho this did give eren an opportunity to save historia (yelena doesn’t know that)
Not him but I have to say it's quite shocking how retarded some of you still have to be to see the pregnancy wasn't to save Zeke or keep her safe from becoming a titan, we literally see signs all over the place Zeke having his own plan, Yelena thinking this they got lucky with her pregnancy or Eren going out of his way make her pregnant just as a back up option you guys are morons but nothing new. Her pregnancy is for something else maybe regarding the paths or as some shitposted about an accident meme
Preventing Zeke's death and protecting Historia are the exact same thing in this context, user. Eren's motivation being Historia's protection rather than Zeke's preservation is a given, but it still relies on the assumption that he'd impose a pregnancy on her that Zeke himself might have never even counted on as he made his plans regarding his arrival on the island (and we do know how far ahead this guy plans given that the military's been drinking poisoned wine for years).
The fifty year plan was always a ruse. Their real goal was the euthanasia plan.
Or you know, Yelena didn't actually ask Eren that.
Oh that one makes sense.
Whatever you say, but read what I said after that and how this whole conversation started after you call me mentally ill, kek.
>historia action
You guys all can't read I guess. Again, the MPs have already stated that the pregnancy is why they did not go ahead with feeding Zeke to Historia. It does not matter that the wine could have served the same purpose because that's not what happened. The pregnancy was the sole factor in their decision not to turn Historia into a titan at that time. So it, and nothing else, were what saved her from that fate. This is true whether it was planned or accidental.
I guess you haven’t read about it yet
I honestly hope eren is the father. At least the suffering can be lessen
Guess not?
I honestly can't believe this is an actual discussion.
If there really is romance between Eren and Historia the kid is obviously Eren's, this isn't even a fucking question.
The only question should be if there really is a relationship between the two, not this retarded meme that everyone seems to have fallen for.
I guess they do have a relationship.
There you go user, you cracked the code.
Chapter 71. Historia prevented him from going full Zeke 2.0 in the cave but there were still lingering feelings of dejection. His dead mom's words raised his spirits again.
How many times do anons need to point out to you they didn't know about Zeke poisoning the wine?
This guy literally gets straight to the point but you act like the post isn't there If Zeke wasn't counting on her to survive why the fuck would Eren go out of his way, you don't even make sense. You are talking like Historia's pregnancy saved Zeke which clearly didn't
To recapitulate Zeke had a plan, wasn't going to allow them to eat him and had counter measures in place. If Zeke was to succeed her pregnancy was as good as useless because Zeke keeping himself alive = Historia not becoming a shifter.
Wait what meme? If anything this chapter confirmed for whoever still doubted it that something emotional did happen between them, regardless of what it was.
The meme that Eren is a cuck that made Historia fuck the farmer, that people actually believed and argue about.
That meme.
>Isayama wants shipfaggotry to ruin snk
But why?
It's the fanbase that's ruining snk with shipfaggotry, I don't blame Isayama for wanting to set up a romance plot line.
Zeke was obviously aware of and counting on the pregnancy to protect him, otherwise he would have brought up the wine as a threat much earlier. He knew before even getting on the airship that he wasn't going to be eaten when they got to the island. Whether he had a hand in it or not (seems doubtful) he definitely relied on it for his benefit. So even if he did not originally plan it, he incorporated it into their plans.
Oh, that meme. I don't know man, it feels like at this point it really just comes from either shitposters trying to rile EHfags up with Farmerposting or shipperfags affected by EH who ran out of damage control and are just reusing old ones.
Gotta admit the latest one on nip twitter about Historia begging for Eren's dick and crying because he rejected her is quite amusing.
>Zeke was obviously aware of and counting on the pregnancy to protect him
zeke's entire ideology is against bringing eldian children into the world. please read slower.
Who even believes that Eren forced the pregnancy on Historia? If it was planned, then most likely Eren suggested the idea to her and she ultimately agreed to it. Nothing is being imposed on her, and in fact the whole point is to give her a way of avoiding the terrible fate that would have actually been imposed on her.
>Zeke was obviously aware of and counting on the pregnancy to protect him
>So even if he did not originally plan it, he incorporated it into their plans.
Literal headcanons holy fucking shit, he wasn't even sure Eren was on the same boat as him when Eren was a hobo in Marley and her pregnancy already happened. Nothing more to say some of you don't read the same manga.
It's not even particularly focused on in the manga. Just unrequited feelings most of the time and lately some hints here and there about a potential relationship, not much else.
Like the other user said, the readers are at fault for letting shit like that rot their brains and turning the fanbase into a dumpster fire just because someone might have fucked someone else.
Yeah no, he made people get invested in EM then have Eren activate his virgin sheild at ch50 with no closure (he didn't reciprocate but he never came foward and say how he views her eirher) and left readers hanging again. Then Uprising happened and Eren bonded with Historia for a bit. She blushed at him a few times but he didn't reciprocate either, so we were left blue balled again. Then the shitty timeskip happened and the pregnancy "mystery" dragged out for way too long already and all this baiting with EM looking at each other at 108 and Hisu's panel at 120 etc. and most discussions are now filled with this garbage... fuck Isayama, he brought this on himself
That's irrelevant. Once he became aware that Historia was pregnant and that the MPs wouldn't feed him to her immediately, he clearly rolled with that and kept the wine as an ace in the hole.
I also don't think it would be a dealbreaker for Zeke if creating a child served his ultimate plan of mass euthanasia. One life to "save" countless others is an easy decision.
What does that matter? Zeke may well not know Eren is involved in the pregnancy, so it would have no effect on his supposed loyalty to him. And he ultimately didn't trust him anyway regardless of everything else.
>get invested in EM
You should blame Araki for this one
>What does that matter?
How exactly do you think Zeke could even find out about the pregnancy Yelena wasn't around, Eren only meet him in Marley after the pregnancy, it's dead obvious Zeke isn't even aware that the pregnancy happened or that she got pregnant. Not even Yelena seemed to be aware of the pregnancy until Grior told her.
Holy shit lol
Retard
Only retards here are dumb shippers like you who think the scarf is a plot point
Mikasa showed intrest in Eren in the manga as well.
Zeke obviously knew he was not going to be fed to Historia upon arrival because he didn't bring up the wine at all. So if he didn't know the queen was pregnant, then he just learned one day that the MPs for some reason decided they wouldn't have him eaten right away. I doubt he'd be satisfied with such a vague explanation with his life on the line, but I guess we'll see.