Experienced/non-virgin female x pure/virgin male couples in anime/manga are the best. Every girl deserves a sweet...

Another blue haired guy x pink haired girl.

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>roasties wouldn't want a virgin handsome rich guy with shared hobbies and who'd cater to all of her whiny needs

The same couple that cosplsyed Wotakoi last year. They're super cute.

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Oh yeah I bet this thread is going to be productive

Even better if there is age gap

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The virgin part would still trip them up.

A girl who doesn't wait till marriage is a whore
A guy who waits until marriage is a loser creep and will never get married anyways

If this is productive, then what are the rest of these threads?

The bait of this tread is such a low quality that I did not feel the need to dig up the appropriate image macro.

>Image macro
It's not 2008 anymore bucko
You better have a wojak or clownpepe to post instead

That girl is a whore. I bet she'll leave the mc when a hotter guy appears that accepts her otaku side

Was Lawrence a virgin?

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A guy who waits for a girl who waits until marriage will never get married.

No
He probably visited most of the brothels in his trade route before meeting Horo
Horo isn't a virgin either

Women are the ones who get pregnant, so it's in a woman's best interests to remain chaste and pure until she finds an attractive male who's willing to stay with her and raise a child. Single mothers have always had a hard time, so female promiscuity has always been frowned upon.

On the flip side, it's in a male's best evolutionary interests to pump and dump as many thots as possible. Best chance of having many offspring. Because of this, mansluts and himbos are let off the hook.

This show has a real dedicated hatedom plus the usual spergs, makes it near impossible to talk about.
A nonvirgin would not be as awkward over kissing and sex as Narumi is.

>Horo isn't a virgin either
No shit, she fucked like 60 wolves in that forest

I do knot see a problem with that.

She did it for love, to save her husbando
Wouldn't you want your wife to do the same for you?

Birth control and abortions eliminate that problem. The only people who have an issue with promiscuity are jealous incels and narcissistic control freaks.

I would honestly never go for horo in the first place because I'm not an anime protagonist who endlessly tolerates women abusing him.

>The only people who have an issue with promiscuity are jealous incels and narcissistic control freaks.
Unironically true 100% of the time, the only people who complain about people having sex are the ones who can't get laid.

>knot
Oi ye cheeky wanker

If she's been with twenty dudes in the past, what makes you think that you - her twenty-first - will be so special?

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What about you makes you think you deserve to someone special? Enjoy it while it lasts. She is not yours, it's just your turn. And vice versa. The only reason why monogamy would matter these days is if you've decided to raise a family together. And even then you don't necessarily have to be monogamous, just present in the kids' lives.

>it's just your turn
Spoken like a true cuck

>you deserve to someone special
*deserve to be

Spoken like a delusional incel who's never been in a relationship.

But why do bitches fuck more guys after their first one? Would like to see the guy version of this to see if it's a human thing.

>unironically watching this for 12 episodes
>unironically watching this for more than 1 episode
shiggy diggy

If you are into 2D, then congrats. If you are into 3D, then get what you can.

I'd want someone special - someone willing to completely devote herself to me - because I'd be willing to completely devote myself to her in return. I'd want somebody to grow old with, unlike you. Enjoy your cats and meals for 1.

IIRC, there's less of a correlation between promiscuity and divorce rate with men, but there still is one.

Of course. Anybody over 20 holding out for a virgin is unrealistic and hypocritical (assuming they're not an ugly loser virgin themselves). Doesn't mean you shouldn't aim high, though.

Updates when?

Holy double-standards Batman.

How so?

Reality isn't fair
Get over it

>It's another purityf/a/gs sperg out over Wotakoi thread

Is it that hard to have a decent wotakoi thread without having purity-obsessed mouth-breathers screaming "ROASTIES11!"?

Here's your Wotakoi movie, bro.

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You have the mentality of a child. If a person has had sex before meeting you, that does not automatically mean that they are unable to become 100% devoted to you.

As for the other situation you bring up I have known plenty of people who held out past the age of 20 for a virgin while remaining a virgin themselves and they are happily married with children now.

If you didn't spend so much time on Yea Forums and more time interacting with and talking to people you would know more about life and relationships and not sound like a child.

Looks good

>If a person has had sex before meeting you, that does not automatically mean that they are unable to become 100% devoted to you.
Lmao
Check out this ledditor
Sorry but facts don't care about your feelings
Women lose the ability to pair bond after their first sexual encounter

Whats a good romance manga to read? list me a few since i have read some please . greatly appreciate you all : )

Kaguya

Not him but,
>[citation needed]

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archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/sex-partners-college

I literally pulled it off the first page of DuckDuckGo image search, you turbo autist

Better than any romcom that came out in the past year, bar none.

Next he'll bring up a Snopes article about how women who give pussy out to anybody willing to bribe them with a 6 pack of light beer are just as faithful as virgins or some shit

>this is the kind of person who browses Yea Forums nowadays
Where did it all go so wrong?

Wasn't around for this, just saw random clips, but when I saw mention of an ex I figured lots of arguments about this. Did they explicitly address this?

>DuckDuckGo
You mean Google for tinfoil hats? Says a lot about you.

Shit bait

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I think men are disgusting and deserve nothing.

They never settle. I'm almost thirty

Women are the ones who spend 1/4th of their life bleeding chunks from their warm moist axe wound

Kaguya
Quintiplets
Domestic Girlfriend
Bokuben
:^)

Try /r9k/ or /pol/, they probably have better types.

Are you a man?

>dudes should pump and dump as much as possible so no bug deal
>single mothers in general have a hard time and are increasingly more common
The double standards that allow problems you talk about really are astonishing

Try reddit or facebook faggot.

Well, after seeing most of the couples posted ITT it really seems like the worst. Shit taste OP

There are no double standards, both men and women who try to sleep around much will get problems unless they are exceptionally successful/lucky.

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That's because there must be something wrong with you to manage to avoid pussy all the way to your 30's. Not coming in contact with a single cunt for this long is an achievement.

...ok?

Did they ban you there?

> achievement
Not really. Talking from experience.

This a) doesn't state any source, b) there are many reasons for a divorce, general sluttery being only one of them, and c) nowhere is it stated that it must have been the slut who caused the divorce in the first place. Shitty statistic with no information value.

[CITATION STILL FUCKING NEEDED]

80% of divorces are initiaded by women who grew resentful because their husbands weren't their first choices

Hmm, so the problem is actually men being so low quality that women can be faithful to them only without knowledge about anything else?

No, the problem is that women can never be happy

Most men can't make a woman happy?

I have divorced few people and this is simply not true. Usually the cause for a divorce in young marriages is a newborn child which changes both spouses life drastically, which in turn causes friction between them, or financial problems. Long term marriages usually fail either because of financial problems or general emotional separation. Of course, adultery is often a reason for divorce, too, but it's not like every slut who fucked her whole highschool class or university year needs to sleep with everyone she meets after she gets married. Get your head out of your ass.

No, it's woman nature to always want more

No, it's that 80% of women, if left to their own devices, think they are worth the top 10% of men. So if you want general monogamy, you need to develop a culture to counteract this civilization-destroying "I deserve better" mentality.

When a civilization (as the West has largely done) throws such culture overboard, you get what you get.

*human nature

No woman wants a manslut whos dick's seen more tubes than a plumber.
Under a one world government, virgins are only able to lose their virginity to other virgins, and once lost you could only ever be with other nonvirgins. Solves many issues. Incels will obviously stay virgins or otherwise unwanted.

Go back to /pol/ or to your lobster subreddit, delusional faggot

>No, it's that 80% of women, if left to their own devices, think they are worth the top 10% of men.
Just like some posters ITT who want a cute young virgin, so probably a top few percent of women. Doubt they are from the top few percent themselves.

Cope more, sexually successful men are more attractive to women

That’s a lot of mental gymnastics, but generally if you aren’t happy that’s your fault

What, she is not a virgin?

except most of the virgins here, boasting about their wizardry status, will absolutely drop everything and throw this entire website under the bus if it meant they'd get into a stable relationship with as much as a non-crazy 4/10. Talking shit on motherfucking Yea Forums doesn't mean shit, statistics do, on the other hand

Civilization is doing fine, and West is doing the best of all. So looks like those things are either causing good, or a byproduct of good.

dumb frogposter

So both men and women sluts are simply more attractive than virgins. Doesn't spell well for you my incel friend.

Women want a man who stayed virgin for her. Stay mad

A man having sexual experience is not a turn-off for most women. That's because it's a sign he's high-value.

Of course, they hate the idea he might be unfaithful TO THEM.

What they really want is to tame a rogue - i.e. "Yes, he was a bit of wolf, but when he met WONDERFUL, UNIQUE, MAGNIFICENT ME - then he had eyes for no-one else."

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Some will, some will prefer 2D over the bother. Just like some women will jump to anyone to settle down, and some will prefer to stay unmarried.

I'm not like the other wizards. I'm virgin by choice. Keep telling me I'm like the others though, I'm almost at wizard status anyway. Going to 30 like this is the true test.

people shooting eachother in slums is also a byproduct of civilization, so are you implying this is good?

>fuck the whole football team in high school
>do the same in college
>go only after 8/10+ guys in the early to mid 20s
>none of these men want to commit
>get into late 20s
>marry an average looking guy with a stable job
>grow resentful of him because he isn't like the guys she used to fuck when she was younger
>divorce him
Women truly have lizard brains

Most women will never settle. And most men won't settle either. The future is quite interesting to see.

lmaoing at this delusion, women find men more attractive if they're wearing wedding rings, there was a study about that.

If you are unhappy at your job, will you switch it, or blame yourself and cope?

Incels are shooting people in public in Burgerland on the daily. Are you implying this is good?

Don't be silly. The West is throwing a giant drunken house-party paid for with the painstakingly-accumulated genetic and cultural capital of the past 2000 years. And it's not going to last.

What a cucked guy. I don't feel sorry for him and neither should you. I don't feel sorry for the women either. I feel sorry for the society they live in though

well yeah, there's also outliers, that's why i said most, not all

That's no worse that stabbing each other in villages, and ultimately less deadly.

>painstaking genetic capital
Everyone in the west is a mixed mutt. There are no more celts, Greeks, or romans. They're all the same now

>man sluts are attractive because being a sexually successful man is attractive, as it paints you as desirable by other women
>women sluts aren't successful because they are attractive, but because they are easy
Delusional

Sexually experienced women are simply more attractive than virgins. Purity culture is an otaku creeper meme. Idolfags and seiyuufags are scum of the earth for those reasons.

>That's because it's a sign he's high-value
That's a sign that he is a manslut.
Men and women think they need to sleep around in order to look more attractive, but they only end up devaluing themselves in the process. You have been hoodwinked by the capitalists and ruling class into buying their culture product and now you are paying the price.

We live in a society...

The majority of people are in a stable relationship, the minority are without any partners, and even smaller minority are constantly promiscuous (with the later fucking mostly with each other).

>shooting someone
>less deadly than stabbing
i excuse your idiocy

>daily dose thread gets 404 in a few minutes
>off topic r9k thread going strong for hours
Watch it hit bump limit. Sasuga 4 channel.

This fucking thread REEKS of /pol/ and other similar shitholes.

and your source is?

Saya alot about the type of society that we live in

why don't you fuck off then?

Sure all those genocided tribes throughout the history were happy to be not deadlyshoot, but stoned or stabbed instead.

ITT: hoes mad

>Used good
NOT
EVEN
ONCE

Roasties are frowned upon in pretty much every board. I think you're on the wrong site entirely

what the fuck does that have anything to do with deadliness of a weapon on a weapon-by-weapon basis?

Think about celebrities who appeal to women - Brad Pitt, or popular musicians, etc. Do you really think women go for them *despite* their many sexual conquests?

>yeah you morons go have sex while I focus on my studies/career, soon all the women will be begging for my dic-

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If you believe in some pure race garbage I have some bad news for you. There are no pre-Roman people left and the Romans were the biggest forced multiculturalists of the ancient world. You are just Germanic invader scum like the rest of them and aren't special or superior to anyone.

/pol/ is not always right, but that's a good first approximation.

I don't know, it's you who by some reason brought up the "deadliness of a weapon on a weapon-by-weapon basis".

>there are "people" in here who are unironically baffled that Yea Forums is hating on 3DPD
Newfags just get more retarded over time huh.

Bargain.

it'll improve infinitely if you removed yourself from it.

He paid her 7 million in the divorce?
I thought he got 444k and that was a good deal but he lost 6.5 million?
Well in the end he seems like a multi millionaire. He couldn't possibly suffer

>That's no worse that stabbing each other in villages, and ultimately less deadly.
so you didn't say shooting is less deadly than stabbing? is that what you're saying?

>marrying a woman
That was his first mistake

Hes not even germanic invader scum. His genes have been diluted because all Europeans are now the same.

Yea Forums loves 2D, but to hate on 3D you need to have some personal injury.

hear hear

Men lusted for girl celebrities like the Olsen twins for decades even after knowing they were town bicycles. Men and women don't care about how many partners either had in the past, they want what they want regardless.

The West's cultural and technological superiority was downstream of genetics. If you're pretending to believe differently you're not arguing in good faith. If you actually *do* believe differently, you're insane. Either way, as HAL said, this conversation can serve no further purpose.

it doesn't take alot to recognize the vicoius natture of women and how every self preserving man needs to not come in contact with it no matter what.

He's 55 with no hopes of having his own kids (article seems to imply he could father children artificially but who's going to want 55 year old man sperm), and in the worst case the kids he was cucked into raising will inherit his millions. Sounds like horrendous suffering to me.

3D are shit if you like them get the fuck out .

I am saying that wars between ancient people wiped entire tribes, so yes, they were pretty deadly with only primitive weapons present. Nukes are nominally the most deadly weapon, but they took a small fraction of WWII casualties, and nothing since then.

That's like saying you can only hate criminals if you've been a victim of a crime. Believe it or not, many people look down on others who they believe behave inappropriately.

>mandatory patternity tests at birth should be a thing

> paid 7mil for divorce
> "awarded" 447000
The state of United Cucks of America

>proving his point
Back to r/eddit you absolute newfag

>The West's cultural and technological superiority was downstream of genetics
We abandoned that pseudoscience back in the 19th century, faggot. Keep up unless you believe Nazi propaganda.

So his money won't go to waste. Good.
He seems rich though. 95+% of Americans don't have that much money to throw around

No, I'll stay and keep loving 2D, meanwhile you should go to /pol/, /r9k/ or whatever suits you.

Eh, it is no worse than the nature of men.

>giving the wealth you worked hard to accumulate throughout your life to the children of a man and woman who cucked you is a good thing
Fuck off roastie.

>I am saying that wars between ancient people wiped entire tribes
and WW1/WW2 didn't ? these were fought with guns, btw. show me a statistic saying more people died by stabbing than by shooting in history

You don't love 2D If you truly liked them you would hate 3D .

A virgin is always better user. A slut won't lose her sex appeal but she has less value.

"We" didn't abandon anything. If you really think there's no genetically-based difference between the civilization-building capacity of Norwegians and Somalians, you are, as I said, insane.

I'm not a hateful person. I don't even hate polsters, although they can be annoying.

Enjoy getting cuked by your 3D women them ,and I only hate 3D women nothing else

If I had that much money I'd use it.

Mongol conquests and Chinese civil wars wiped comparable amounts (with world population being vastly lower than today, so the percentage isn't even close).

It feels lnice knowing the men of Yea Forums are largely based and womanpilled, after reading this thread. You guys have done well.

They already live rent free in your head, so they basically cuck you every time they have sex.

No, I'll stay on Yea Forums to discuss anime (and to occasionally participate in threads like this, just for fun).

>gave 90% of his money to a whore and her bastard sons
>not wasted
You're a literal cuck

I see your logic , but i don't thnik About 3D Women all the time only when a bunch 3D worshipper talk about them .

The single person who has, by force of arms, most changed the genetic makeup of the world is, as far as we know, Genghis Khan, and it's not close. He killed the highest % of the world population of anyone we know of, and has the highest % of direct descendants.

Of course, going further back, there was probably someone else (when there were only 10,000 "humans", one man might easily have been responsible for killing half of them) but we'll never know his name.

Maybe he wanted to use it by investing it or, or keeping it for his biological children? Not to give it to some brats unrelated to him.

Hey the free market works like that.
Buy more bathwater incel

"Go back to r.eddit" isn't meant to actually make you go back holy shit you're fucking dumb

Humans have a lots of flaws in general, but I prefer not to hate on them. It's pointless, they are getting better, and after all there is 2D.

He couldn't have children. He was infertile. So those biological children only existed in his imagination

That isn't what free market means you dumb cuck

I get that the most of things you say actually don't mean much.

In the free market, money goes to whoever was able to take it. We're not supposed to regulate this.
He signed a contract, he paid the price.

If cucks could do science they wouldn't be cucks.

> We're not supposed to regulate this.
> He signed a contract
Contracts are actually regulations. Just how dumb are you?

I heard "go back to R*ddit" so often I actually went there and had a look, thinking it might be cool. I wasn't all that impressed. It's OK for some things, but Yea Forums has a better community spirit. I feel at home here.

I do still get told to GBTR a lot but that's just because I like double-spacing.

>At least 97% of men with cystic fibrosis are infertile, but not sterile and can have children with assisted reproductive techniques.
If he wasn't tricked into wasting his life being cucked and raising someone else's children he would've had his own. Dumb roastie.

>originally be some tribal bums that leach off the Africa and the Fertile Crescent
>LARP empire collapses due to invading tribes that will later LARP for several millenia
>have to relearn literally everything from superior Middle East empires that continued to advance knowledge to get anywhere after a millenia and a half
>China nearly beat you to the Industrial Revolution by several centuries if it wasn't for the Qing
>paranoid that China and the Middle East are on the rise while they're on the decline again
West superior, yep. It's a cycle, get used to not always being on top.

This. Monogamy is literally a shitty christian meme. The world is going to be a far better place once it'' dead.

Contracts are agreements between two consenting parties. Government regulations is interference of society into people's affairs

Keep the pseudoscience out of Yea Forums you smoothbrained retard.

I guess you're some kind of saint who couldn't even hate a mass child rapist/murderer then? There's no point in playing pretend anonymously over the internet.

Yeah but he got tricked so he was dumb haha stay mad. 3D men like you are so stupid. They get tricked so easily for millions haha

Somalians were able to beat Arabs in battle a thousand years ago while Spain couldn't and Spain got conquered. Stay mad kiddo. You were never the master race

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Who do you think made the divorce laws? The fucking government. The cucked bastard didn't payed 7 mil by his own will I can assure you.

He did because he got tricked. He consented to playing the game of marriage. Because you boys are so stupid. All according to keikaku.
Tbh baka senpai

That's not a woman thing, you dumbass. Everybody wants to get with the most beautiful, successful, and powerful people.

Which, no fucking shit. Literally the only reason that's seen as even remotely wrong is because of the nonsense idea that is monogamy.

Hate is a strong word. When I read history books, my main emotion is curiosity, and many of their characters fit the description. Of course if someone is really bad, I accept that evilness, and sometimes can even get emotionally invested, but that does not happen every time, and only for a reason.

Yes. And then they'll probably abandon that girl if they ever get the chance to fuck a non crazy 5/10.

How to be a desirable woman:
>don't be fat
>don't be a slut

How to be a desirable man:
>regularly work out
>have a good job
>be alpha in appearance and personality

Totally the same thing.

Stop projecting, roastie.

>don't be fat
Not even that

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What a sad and ignorant life view. user there's a reason you think and feel this way. Judging from the tone of your post you're probably not a very interesting or kind person. There's a good chance you'll never be loved by anyone

So relatively cute, virgin (and presumably also relatively young). Congrats, that's a top few percents. If you are in such a top yourself, try to go for it.

There is no projection. It's simple human nature to want something better than what you currently have. This applies just as much to sex as it does to a new game console.

>look for women at bars, clubs and their online dating equivalents
>want them to put out first date
>complain about them having sex before
don't be this retarded, user

>Congrats, that's a top few percents
Which says a lot about the modern woman.

No. You are desirable based on your social position and the current beauty standard imposed by society. There is nothing unfair about it , expect arguably the system itself.

Could've been worse. At least it looks passable unlike the Kaguya movie.

Actually people who aren't used goods sluts tend to seek out lifelong partners. Or do you think the people with 1 partner here just coincidentally found an amazing 10/10 person rather than them simply being happy with having someone who loves them?

A job and a relationship are two different things user, stop being stupid.

Relatively young alone limits the choice a lot. Although if you'll take the 40 years old who has ok weight and is by some reason a virgin, then my bad.

He was tricked because there were government regulations in the first place. Said regulations were abused, hence the "tricked" part. "free market" your ass.

That's how women see it, yes, which is in line with my post. Men tend to date/marry below themselves so things like that don't matter as much as it does for women.

But maybe jobs should be like those traditional corporations in Japan with employment-for-life? If you must be faithful to your spouse no matter what, maybe that should also apply to a job?

No. That's how men see it as well. You can try to delude yourself into thinking you are different. But the only way that's true is that you'll most likely never have any sex whatsoever.

Scientific proof that virile men are good and sluts are bad.

With Pokémon youtube.com/watch?v=OccWmmaCqlE

You missed that boat decades ago, not even Japan is like that anymore. Capitalism has moved on for better or worse it's the latter.

>40 years old who has ok weight and is by some reason a virgin
Practically impossible unless they had some other severely negative quality. Any 'average'-looking virgin girl in her 20s would 100% have men pursuing her and therefore not ever end up being a 40 year old virgin.

Going full retard I see.
>If you must be faithful to your spouse no matter what
If that’s the kind of relationship you’ve set up with your spouse the you should absolutely stay loyal to them as they are to you, or talk about breaking it off

>you'll never have sex if you'd prefer to settle for someone who loves you instead of exclusively pursuing 10/10s
So what you're saying is that women are incapable of love. Guess I can concede on those grounds.

No, they are simply miserable for the sake of some stupid religious dogma. Their sacrifice, I guess.

Men aren't capable of love either, except with other men. Humans are a curious race like that.

Neither men or women are capable of the romanticized idea of love. The whole notion that you can and should only have one partner is fundamentally wrong.

Dude, every man is 100 bucks away from having sex, regardless of appearance or social status. If he wants sex, he will have it.

It says a lot about you to assume they're miserable because they've only had sex with their spouse. Roasties, not even once.

Well, the initial point was that if you are unhappy, you must only blame yourself since it's your fault. As a generalization it is simply wrong both for relations and job.
>or talk about breaking it off
That's one of the ways.

Gas yourself fag.

Was it also you who said that men sleeping around is not a big deal?

Not really. It has solid grounds and works just fine in other species too.

Imagine being a used up roastie who no longer believes in love. You realize you're just reinforcing the message of the above graphs right? At least don't project your brokenness.

How would childcare work in polygamous relationships?

I'm assuming they are miserable because most religious zealots, and let's face it those are pretty much the only people that still follow this nonsense, are pretty much always miserable.

I'm not a girl, by the way. But I guess that for a sociopath like you, men actually caring about the wellbeing of other people is a foreign and alien idea.

No, but according to the data and common sense it's not as bad as women sleeping around.

You simply don't want to accept the facts.
Look at societies with polygamous and open systems and you'll see. This is most of human history after all.

>the initial point was that if you are unhappy, you must only blame yourself since it's your fault. As a generalization it is simply wrong both for relations and job.
The initial point was that generally if you are unhappy it’s usually your fault, not if you’re happy it is always your fault. And your relationship with your spouse and your work are two different things. You can hate your work and still be happy, but you can’t hate your spouse and still be happy

>common sense
Now we're really memeing here

That makes no sense at all because religious zealots are less miserable than atheists, due to believing they are loved and will be rewarded by their god.
>calling others sociopaths while arguing that slutting around brings happiness
The absolute state of cucks.

Well, if man sleeps around in a relationship, then I hardly care about woman returning that sentiment. Cheating without cause would be bad though.

>It has solid grounds and works just fine in other species too.
Animals don't have such a thing as romantic love, idiot. Most animals are not monogamous, and the few that are both incredibly far removed from humans and only do so as a survival strategy.

What message? That graph has nothing to do with if love does or does not exist.

It's a graph you pulled out of your ass anyway, without anything resembling a credible source.

Ask literally any divorced parent.

Ultimate roastie dream is that some good guy will look past all their sexual mistakes

That's why religious zealots always get so angry and bitter whenever anybody questions their believes. Why they spend hours trying to make the lives of other people miserable. And why most of them look like they want to die 99% of the time.

>calling others sociopaths while arguing that slutting around brings happiness
If having sex makes you and the person you fuck happy. Then having a lot of sex makes people happy. This is literally about as simple and straightforward as it gets.

>You can hate your work and still be happy, but you can’t hate your spouse and still be happy
The first part is quite questionable. Of course you can go to work, suffer and return to loving wife and kids. But then you also may dislike/ ignore your spouse and have a fulfilling enjoyable job. Both things would be hard to achieve without each other though.

You really think bringing up other species helps your case? Do you also think you're a lobster by chance?

>society should become polygamous
The absolute state of Yea Forums

I'm not going to put in the effort to look up anything. Explain how would a childcare work. It's one of the reasons why monogamous relationships are a norm.
I didn't know that divorced parents are always in polygamous relationships. What does that have to do with anything?

Yes, this is one of the persistent "conventions" (lies) in art/entertainment which surely distorts people's view of reality.

Think of how often you've seen a Hollywood movie where a very attractive 20-something (or early 30-something) girl has had no serious male attention. It's a super-common trope because it's dramatically a very useful device. (The female audience can identify with her; the male audience will want to protect and impregnate her.) But it's fantasy.

The first example that comes to mind: the movie Heat. Remember that girl who talks to Robert De Niro in the restaurant? He's rude to her then apologizes. Turns out she's just desperate for affection/attention.

Here's the scene:
youtube.com/watch?v=rsIujHJpKIc

In reality that girl would be knee-deep in men.

You could argue that zealots obtain happiness from spreading their religion and therefore should be empowered to do so, but I get the feeling you have double standards when it comes to this form of pursuing happiness.

If you want to be polygamous, you may already do it now, just without paperwork. Not much wil change with the paperwork added.

Society IS becoming polygamous. It's only a few backwards fossils still trying to go against what everybody wants and needs. Most of which are going to die alone or change their mind once they stop being a whiny virgin.

>In reality that girl would be knee-deep in men.
Who want a quick fuck?

>You can hate your work and still be happy
No you can't. You'll spend more time at work than with your spouse over your lifetime so arguably this is a bigger critical factor to happiness.

>What does that have to do with anything?
The fact that it shows that you can have two people that are fucking somebody else and still raise a child.

I'm pretty sure the topic is promiscuity over the course of a lifetime, not promiscuity during relationships. I don't think anybody here from either camp would defend cheaters.

Society will become 2Dgamous (and robogamous in a near future)

>Spreading their religion.
Unless they do so through violence and oppression. Zealots are some of the worst people to spread their religion peacefully. Most modern zealots are stuck deep inside echo chambers anyway.

>Hollywood movie
Fuck off.

>just be yourse-

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>robots creep me out
>still a long way to go beford genetically engineered cat girls
Wat do?

>I'm not going to put in the effort to look up anything
Then you don't deserve anything. I'm not going to spoonfeed you, child. If you want to know, learn yourself.

No. But robotsex is going to help bring about the end of monogamy. Once you can create literal sexbots, there is no point to keep up any pretend of what you actually want.

>The first part is quite questionable. Of course you can go to work, suffer and return to loving wife and kids
Not really, as long as you’re being paid enough to sustain your family and yourself any job will do.
>But then you also may dislike/ ignore your spouse and have a fulfilling enjoyable job.
If I don’t like my spouse to the point I’m actively ignoring/avoiding them it’s time to talk and maybe break up, there’s no point in leading them on. Again, your relationship with your work and spouse are two different things stop comparing them

I sincerely doubt the "national survey" which produced the aforementioned graph was conducted in the middle east. Why are you so eager to deny that there are people in western countries who aren't absolute degenerates like yourself?

Get a hooker. Or find some girl willing to let you stick it in for a while.

Not just that. She would have to deal with plenty of those, sure. But she would also have her pick of men with serious intentions.

>Again, your relationship with your work and spouse are two different things stop comparing them
Of course they differ a lot, but ultimately the idea that you should cope and keep even intolerable job/relationship is equally unfitting for both.

>I sincerely doubt the "national survey" which produced the aforementioned graph was conducted in the middle east.
Religious zealots in the middle east are no different from religious zealots in the USA. The only difference being the degrees of power they have.

>Why are you so eager to deny that there are people in western countries who aren't absolute degenerates like yourself?
Degeneracy doesn't exist, user. It's a meme people invented to culturally justify the oppression of groups that might go against the status quo. More than that, I'm not denying that there are different people in western countries. It's just that most of those people are miserable, angry, and hateful.

Easy there tiger. Animals have just the same base functions as you. Eat, sleep, shit (they just don't do it on Yea Forums).

>any job will do
Jobs that take up too much time, are too dangerous, or are not fulfilling to you drain your happiness significantly. You could have all the money in the world from a job, but if you don't get the chance to use it on things that could make you happy it doesn't matter.

There is an approximately equal number of men and women. Why would there be a lot of serious men for the each woman then?

Love isn't a base function so it doesn't matter what me and an amoeba share in common.

>Degeneracy doesn't exist
Oh so you're one of those "people" who like to rewrite the dictionary huh.
>complains about graphs not being 'proper sources'
>proceeds to continually to pull statements out of the ass
I am fairly certain there is at least 1 study out there that says religious people are more happy than atheists, but since your entire argument hinges on the claim that they're mostly miserable I'd like to see you source that. inb4 it was anecdotal evidence all along.

Divorced parents are able to raise their children there is a rooted in way of thinking that makes a decent human take care of his / her own child and there are also some "motivating" laws that prescribes stuff like child maintenance and parental responsibility. You want to change the very basic fundamentals which provide groundwork for said way of thinking and laws, yet you expect things to stay the same? The moment polygamous relationships become the norm, sense of responsibility for your own children will vanish. Mainly because fathers would never be able to tell whether the child is their own. With it goes the legal framework. Suddenly, single parents are not able to raise their children on their own.
>the answer to your question is this but you go look up the reasons why
Okay.

What is love?

>people who divorce end up having sex with more than one person
Holy shit I cant believe this!

You can drop an unfulfilling relationship and while harder to do, you can always find a more fulfilling job that pays good enough. So if you’re unhappy it’s probably your fault, if you don’t like your spouse, dump them, nothing is keeping you tied down with them. Don’t like your job? Put up with it until you can get a different job

Brainlet

Agreed here. If you are deeply unhappy in a job/relationship/marriage, then leave/drop/divorce. What was the point we disagreed about anyway?

>Oh so you're one of those "people" who like to rewrite the dictionary huh.
No, i'm the kind of person who likes to point out that words are just ink on a paper invented by humans. Some of them have no value.

>I am fairly certain there is at least 1 study out there that says religious people are more happy than atheists
I don't see atheists blowing themselves up for the sake of their believes.

I don't understand. How can a man stomach marrying a woman who's not a virgin and especially someone who's got a list of Ex boyfriends. Won't you ever think to yourself the endearing words she says to you, she must have said to her Exes? That she said "I love you" to all of them and not just you? How can a man spend his life with a woman like that? Especially her already slept with all of them. I'm not an incel but sex really is an emotional moment for women. Won't she be really damaged as well. She must have really loved someone only for it to not work out. How can you be any different. You're just picking up the pieces left behind by her boyfriends?

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>The moment polygamous relationships become the norm, sense of responsibility for your own children will vanish.
No, they will not.

>Mainly because fathers would never be able to tell whether the child is their own
This more or less confirms my own assumption. Which is that people like you are actually still living in the 1800's.

Like, try to understand how making babies works and what modern science can do before you pretend to understand how the world works.

You misinterpreted/maybe didn’t like my initial point, that generally if you’re unhappy, it’s your usually your fault.

>words are just ink on a paper invented by humans
No, they have meaning, you brainlet. If I say "the sun is hot" it's pretty obvious what meaning I'm trying to convey. Similarly, if I say "you're a degenerate" it's also pretty obvious what meaning I'm trying to convey, but you choose to ignore it because it hurts your feefees or whatever. Or are you going to try refute me with some more retardation like "hot is just a concept humans invented bro"?

>I don't see atheists blowing themselves up for the sake of their believes.
Those are the vast minority of theists in western countries, which is what we're talking about in case you forgot. Also they were probably extremely happy to blow themselves up because they believed they would be rewarded in the afterlife, so your argument is worthless anyway.

>That she said "I love you" to all of them and not just you?
She probably also said it to her dad. Yet, i'm not going to hold that against her.

> Won't you ever think to yourself the endearing words she says to you, she must have said to her Exes?
Imagine being this fucking paranoid. Like, unless you're dating a actual world class poet, I doubt "endearing words" is anything more than crap she found while watching romantic comedies.

>How can a man spend his life with a woman like that?
You might not. And if you do, it's probably just because she's the kind of person you want to spend your life with.

You're a fucking idiot, if it used number of partners before first marriage would actually make sense.
But instead it uses lifetime partners, meaning people who divorce the only person they ever had sex with and have other partners afterwards are counted the same as people who slutted around before marriage.

That's why you will die a virgin

>No, they have meaning, you brainlet.
A meaning invented by humans. You can argue that some are factually correct. In most cases, I would even agree with you. But other words are literal nonsense.

>Similarly, if I say "you're a degenerate" it's also pretty obvious what meaning I'm trying to convey, but you choose to ignore it because it hurts your feefees or whatever.
I'm not ignoring it. I'm pointing out that the concept of degeneracy is nonsense. It's not real, and the people that tried to make it a real thing had biased reasons for wanting it to be real.

>Those are the vast minority of theists in western countries
Still doesn't change the fact that it's only theists that do that kind of crap. Because most zealots are miserable, sad people. And it's only zealots that still believe in no sex before marriage.

>not wanting to be your wife's first and only
What the hell is wrong with you?

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Do you know how many people have kissed you and have seen and touched your dick since you were born? You were used goods since you were a baby, user. I'm sorry I had to be the first to break this to you.

>Thinking that a living being is the same thing as a mattress.
This is why you people will never get laid.

Shes not a roastie though before they fuxed

> I don't see atheists blowing themselves up for the sake of their believes.
They do it all the time. Most modern mercenaries are atheists and they blow up each other for their belief in money, or adrenaline, "way of life" or whatever.

Shame they took down those study blogs

>comic
If you are a poorfag without any couch or computer, you'll probably become a bit less picky. Although sleeping on a floor is a possibility, and living without gf is even easier.

>Most modern mercenaries are atheists and they blow up each other for their belief in money, or adrenaline, "way of life" or whatever.
Even if I did actually believe that, which I do not. There is a difference between fighting in a war to earn cash, and blowing yourself up for allah.

men being whores are applauded

Do you seriously suggest doing DNA tests to determine parenthood? Or some other magical way to tell which man is the father? No matter that it would take a fuckton of time. No matter that there are probably no capacities to make this work, considering the number of children being born every day. No matter that some people would be unable to afford it. You live in a very idealistic world, hun.

>A meaning invented by humans
Animals know what "hot" is, even if they don't understand the English word itself.

>I'm pointing out that the concept of degeneracy is nonsense.
The vast majority of society disagrees with you. Go into a public space and do something degenerate, then when the police arrest you for disturbing public order or worse, go tell them "b-b-b-but degeneracy isn't real bro, chill out" and see how that works out for you.

>Still doesn't change the fact that it's only theists that do that kind of crap.
Yeah no shit, by definition you need to be a theist to kill yourself in the name of god. In terms of simply killing others for whatever reason, that's not something limited to theists.
>Because most zealots are miserable, sad people. And it's only zealots that still believe in no sex before marriage.
Have you got a single fact to back this up?

getting your diaper changed =/= having sex

cucks dont care, as long as they have a hole to cum in. people are so thirsty that theyd go to any length for pussy
thes same people listen to every word women say and begin plunging society into a death spiral

also inb4 someone goes like "you just dont want a non virgin girl because youre insecure "
the problem isnt my insecurity, the problem is her lack of stability

The best one I remember is probably Karekano.

You're right, at least with a mattress you can bleach out the stains from other guys, unlike with women who can give you an STI.

>t.American

It's the same end result though. You end up in pieces because of your choice.

>Do you seriously suggest doing DNA tests to determine parenthood?
If it's in doubt because all of the copious amount of dicks you took while wanting a child. Then yes, I would argue that a DNA test is the way to go.

>Or some other magical way to tell which man is the father?
Let's say you and a girl decide you want to raise a child together. It's a choice you both made, something you decided you wanted to do together. Now, with that in mind, there is a very easy way to make sure the child is actually yours. Can you guess what it is ?

If they are rich/famous, then they are applauded for that, and fucking around a lot won't bring them better reputation. If you are a low-tier and you try to fuck around (or spend all money on whores), that will not bring you good either.

Your innocence was taken from you involuntary, user. I know it is hard but you have to accept this.

> Do you seriously suggest doing DNA tests to determine parenthood?
What's wrong with that?

>Do you seriously suggest doing DNA tests to determine parenthood?
Looking at this I think they should be mandatory

>Can you guess what it is ?
Kill every other male in her presence to be sure that there was no one other than me able to creampie her?

>Animals know what "hot" is, even if they don't understand the English word itself.
I'm pretty sure animals don't know what degeneracy is either. Because, again, it doesn't exist.

>Go into a public space and do something degenerate, then when the police arrest you for disturbing public order or worse, go tell them "b-b-b-but degeneracy isn't real bro, chill out" and see how that works out for you.
There is a difference between the fictional concept of degeneracy, and breaking the law.

>In terms of simply killing others for whatever reason, that's not something limited to theists.
Obviously. But killing for their religious beliefs, or lack thereof, is something mostly relegated to religious zealots.

>Have you got a single fact to back this up?
The fact that most people have copious amounts of sex nowadays is a fact.

The only people who want women to slut around are other malicious women who want to devalue their competition or bring them down to their level, or men/cucks who want to devalue women so that they become desperate with age and are therefore more likely to have sex with them.

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The end goal of being a mercenary is getting rich. Being blown into more pieces than your arguments is typically seen as a failure state.

Trust me, having your diaper changed by a hot girl is better than sex.

>The fact that most people have copious amounts of sex nowadays is a fact.
That depends on what time periods are compared (or maybe exact amounts).

No. Just don't fuck anybody else for like, a week.

Give me examples of rich mercenaries. I'll wait.

It does not depend on that. If you look at the amount of religious people and the amount of people that had sex before marriage, you'll find that both numbers are going to overlap significantly.

women are already worthless if you consider how they literally provide no benefit but sex. and a sex doll nowadays can be just as good.

Virgin >>>>>>>>>>>>> non-virgin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dogshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sluts

>Do you seriously suggest doing DNA tests to determine parenthood?
In sexually open societies where they raise their children communally they don't give a shit about who's the mother or father. To them they are all their children and are given the love and care as if they were their offspring in a monogamous nuclear family society. Bonds are stronger in those societies since they don't fracture their personal bonds into nuclear nodes, but interconnect them through their whole community. The main way these societies were broken were by being conquered, slaughtered and enslaved from the outside and having monogamy imposed on them.

>First story.
A woman thinking somebody she might have liked could have been her soulmate in hindsight.

>second and third story.
Two people killing themselves based on pressure from society.

>I'm pretty sure animals don't know what degeneracy is either. Because, again, it doesn't exist.
That's like saying programming doesn't exist because animals are too stupid to comprehend it.

>There is a difference between the fictional concept of degeneracy, and breaking the law.
There are laws which ban degenerate acts. It's not that the laws say "thou shall not be degenerate", but rather "thou shall not do x y z" which are classified as degenerate acts. Next you'll tell me murder isn't bad because animals kill each other all the time and only humans make laws against it.

>But killing for their religious beliefs, or lack thereof, is something mostly relegated to religious zealots.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say the majority of mass shootings in america happen because of non-religious reasons.

>The fact that most people have copious amounts of sex nowadays is a fact.
So you're saying sex is the only path to happiness? Ridiculous, and I can only hope you're just shitposting.

It depends on where and for who exactly you work. But your average private military contractor earns more than enough to have a very good living.

Other way around. I love used goods especially in anime

Nah, the latest meme in society is slutting around and being 'independent career women'. It's society which tells them to fight biology, but they're not brainwashed enough to deny the ticking of their biological clock after they hit their 30s or 40s.

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You realize that this chart shows an overwhelming majority of marriages NOT ending in divorce, even for couples where one or both partners had an outstandingly high (7+) number of sexual encounters in their lifetime, right? And also that it's showing data for both genders, not women specifically? Fucking incel retards can't even interpret their own "evidence" competently.

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You can have a "copious amounts of sex" with just one person. In fact, people in stable relationship do indeed have a lot more sex than the "polygamous" retards like you.

Mercenaries are the sluts of the war economy. Turns out having no loyalty to anything but money pays off sometimes.

>That's like saying programming doesn't exist because animals are too stupid to comprehend it.
No, what i'm saying is that degeneracy doesn't exist. And animals probably don't know the concept.

>There are laws which ban degenerate acts.
There are laws that ban things for reasons. Most of those have nothing to do with the fictional concept of degeneracy in a civilized country. For the same reason why there aren't that many laws based on pseudoscience from two hundred years ago.

>Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say the majority of mass shootings in america happen because of non-religious reasons.
Well, most mass shootings are the result of white nationalist incel freaks that push every worldview you seem to espouse. Almost all of which are tied to at least some kind of religion.

>So you're saying sex is the only path to happiness?
No, you dumbass.

If he survives. And avoids heavy injuries. And a bunch of other "if"s. Also
good living =/= rich

I don't think there are capacities to make DNA tests en masse.
How does this help me to determine whether the child borne by the woman I actually dicked is mine? I don't follow. This is a polygamous relationship, after all. She has other mate and I somehow don't mind.
Yeah but we don't live in such hippie communities anymore. No one will help you to raise your child today. Look how much the word cuck is thrown around here.

The focus on prioritizing work and your career is a result of the modern capitalist system. It has nothing to do with people slutting about.

Real life is not Yea Forums. Look around in universities. Most people are super nice and would love to take care of your kid.

>In fact, people in stable relationship do indeed have a lot more sex than the "polygamous" retards like you.
1: I'm not polygamous but celibate. 2: You can have a lot of sex in a monogamous relationship, or you might not. That has no bearing on the possible benefits of having a polygamous relationship. 3: Evidence?

It's a risky fucking job.

>How does this help me to determine whether the child borne by the woman I actually dicked is mine?
You know how pregnancy works, right? Just agree to not have sex with anybody else for a week. Get her pregnant. And then start fucking around with anybody.

That’s because you have shit taste and your mother was a whore

The Pope is one of the most famous and influential persons on the planet.
> Turns out having loyalty to a single deity pays off sometimes

She had three boyfriends, which to many people here means she must have had sex with them and pretended not to

Says the poor permavirgin who demands his perfect manic pixy dream waifu be a virgin to boot.

>if you think shitting on the streets is a bad thing then you're a white nationalist incel freak
>also if any religious person does something bad then by association they did it on behalf of their religion
Miss me with this twitter-tier idiocy. Go look up what "degenerate" actually means because I'm not wasting any more time on you.

Holy shit really. I always knew that abandoned children were just fake news. I'm sure that one of my university mates whom I never met would be perfectly willing to take care of my child for no remuneration at all. I also wouldn't mind entrusting my offspring to stranger at all, what could go wrong. Seriously?

>people defending 3DPD sluts on Yea Forums
Holy fuck this board has gotten bad.

Why are you blaming women for something the capitalists imposed on society back in the 1800's? They needed women to work in order to increase the workforce without importing labor since children were no longer a socially acceptable option. Now everyone is forced to work so much they hardly have time for personal fulfillment or properly forming families, so the capitalists make egg sperm freezing scams to mooch more of your money off you while keeping you a wageslave. You keep thinking it's women or immigrants that are causing the shit happening now, but they're going through the same thing. The cause is elsewhere.

>I don't think there are capacities to make DNA tests en masse.
The technology is mature and could be scaled up fairly quickly if the economy supported it.
Right now you're only a cheek swab and a $50 test away from knowing with certainty if it's yours.

>few people
oy vey, I hope you mean as a preacher, etc, and not as a participant

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Maybe because women embrace and advocate it as a good thing it while men actually do see it as a bad thing.

also I'm a brainlet for assuming that preachers etc also preside over divorces

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>if you think shitting on the streets
Is a law for reasons outside of the nonsense that is degeneracy.

>>also if any religious person does something bad then by association they did it on behalf of their religion
Which part of ZEALOT do you not understand?

>while men actually do see it as a bad thing.
No. The people that make decisions like this do in fact see it as a good thing. That's why they implemented it in the first place.

Like, most men's entire opinion begins and ends with "My colleague is a hot piece of ass". While most woman's opinion of the subject begins and ends with "More cash = Better".

>You keep thinking it's women or immigrants that are causing the shit happening now, but they're going through the same thing. The cause is elsewhere.
That's modern fascism for you. It's literally just a scapegoat capitalists invented to keep the population distracted.

reminder this is the ova of the decade

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This doesn't sound like a very good long term strategy. Delaying gratification is tough for people like you, but you should at least consider it.

Delaying gratification until ending up alone and old?

Delaying gratification until you end up with a stable household with happy and productive children. Just think about this: Smart people get divorced less.

There are a couple of good boards for you, check them out.

> celibate
Virgin celibate, monogamous celibate or polygamous celibate?

Well, that's true. You can find a good long-term partner if you search, just don't set your standards too high.

"I don't want to waste my time on this nonsense" celibate.

Haremcel!

Well I think being a cumbrain would preclude someone from being a good long-term partner.

>Delaying gratification until you end up with a stable household with happy and productive children.
Something you can do far more easily by having lots of sexual relations.

Why would we want this if both of us have multiple partners with whom we have sex. This kind of agreement sounds almost like we wanted to have a monogamous relationship in the first place.

Would you mind expanding on your idea here for me? I don't follow.

If you want up in a stable household with happy and productive children. Then it's best to try and fuck as many people as possible until you find somebody you like enough to start a family.

Wanting to raise a child with somebody, and just having sex, are two very different things.

Also, not fucking anybody else for a week is not the same thing as not fucking anybody else for the rest of your life.

this thread should have ended here

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Buy why is that the case? Since divorce is negative for a child's development, I'm just using data related to divorce rates to get an idea of how to behave if I want the best for my children. What I've seen shows that what you want is an intelligent, college educated, sexually conservative, and religious individual from a stable background, and also don't get married too young. Never seen anything supporting what you're saying.

No, it should not. Because it has nothing to do with open relationships.

Because they have no pride.

excuse me while I show you just how shit 3D women are

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I dislike her use of the word romance, that doesn't exist. But otherwise... eh, whatever.

What about rape victims who are still pure?

they usually have just as much psychological issues as sluts even if it wasn't their fault stay far away

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Agreed, Lysenkoists like you need to leave.

How do you think the industrial revolution started?

Delay what gratification? Do you seriously believe that it's best to jump into a lifelong commitment with somebody before getting to know them?

I think only a cumbrain would conflate "getting to know them" with "having sex with them".

man I sure do love this anime and manga thread

>daddy where's mommy
>she's fucking Chad, and then she's going to go spend some time with her 4th baby-daddy. She'll be home next monday.
how to raise a serial killer

As much as people hate it I do enjoy Wotakoi. People just need to learn to stop being such fags because a girl has dated other guys.

Well you see, I'm a feminist. That means I don't think women are absolved of their responsibility. They're definitely too dumb to vote, though.

Once we kill mrtophat, immigrants won't drive the cost of labour down and fracture unions.

no she did not, stop lying.
she had to sacrifice her pride and bow / beg to let them pass.

>how to raise a serial killer
Be raised in white picket fence suburb and develop a persecution complex nurtured by sociopaths and scam artists on tv, talk radio and the internet.

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