Jojo

>so like, time skips, and the opponent doesn't remember what happened but you do, and also you avoid all harmful things during the skipped time
How is this any better than simply just stopping time? For being so convoluted, you sure are getting pretty much the same result other than the opponent moving a little.

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Who said it was better? It's just his power, it's not like he can choose a different one.

>How is this any better than simply just stopping time?
It's not.

you cannot erase time, fuck you araki bring santana back

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You get a nifty visual effect and don't have to wait as long for pizza to get delivered.

You're only looking at half of the ability. He can see the absolute future which will happen, then say "nah" to that, that's pretty neat. Imagine if a nuke went off. The time stopper would stop time and try to run away, while the time eraser could simply skip over it and be fine.

You would still die from the radiation.

Its better defensively but much worse offensively than stopping time. Prove me wrong

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How is it better defensively?

That's true, but I'm mainly just talking about pure impqct. The searing heat and radiation would annihilate Diavolo since it would last well over 10 seconds. That's one of the 'results' that Diavolo jumps ahead to.

Epitaph can see the future.

stopping time is limited to how fast you can react. (which of course means nothing given star platinum and the world are faster than light), but precog > reaction speed

>Be Santana, a "lower class" pillarbro
>use all sorts of crazy fucking weird techniques that involve absolute control over your body's cells
>can fit through the tiniest gaps
>can embed peoples' flesh in each other or tie them in pretzels
>can suck out their life force with a touch
>only get got cause muh sunlight hax

>be "elite pillarmen"
>never use any of these powers
>just punches and kicks and armblades and sometimes shoot wind ball or something
What happened here? Did Araki forget?

They would be too hard to kill

Whamuu and Kars used the distortion power. Looks like you're the one who forgot brainlet

The fact that Diavolo has to sneak behind his enemies in order to finish them off as soon as time return to its normal flow says a lot about it.He can get away with anything but can only harm others when having his ability unactivated

It's not.

No one said it's better. Jojo villains aren't a scaling upward threat level, they are threats in their own ways and armed with their own abilities, it's not a competition.

Who could beat Ultimate Kars legitimately? The only characters I can think of that could are Kira, Okuyasu, Vanilla Ice, and maybe Giorno and Johnny.

notorious big maybe. Avdol maybe.

Man in the Mirror can probably trap him forever. Unless he evolves a way to break out

I don’t think avdol could. Kars survived molten rock so heat really isn’t a problem.

he was going to die without the bubble rock armour and that was only going to last for a few minutes and i think vaporised metal is hotter than molten rock
fugo maybe

Funny Valentine, Pucci, Rolling Stones, either of the D'Arby's, Rohan, Yoshihiro Kira, Toyohiro, Cheap Trick possibly, Chariot Requiem, possibly Fugo, possibly Polpo, Notorious B.I.G., Green Baby, Pocoloco, Giant Tree,

Wouldn’t Kars just kill the D’arbys? He has no reason to gamble with them. Maybe the younger could trap him in that weird pocket dimension, but who knows how that place really works.

Yes, but if they could get him in their games somehow, they could legitimately kill him.

The pocket dimension was just a room disguised by Kenny G.

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In terms of brute strength KC is better than SP and TW

It's true, King Crimson is basically a freight train.

King Crimson has never been shown to have the same strength Star Platinum has demonstrated

SP couldn't even doughnut DIO

Star Platinum's real gimmick is it's precision and insane reactions not it's strength. I'm not saying SP and TW aren't strong but they're definitely weaker than KC

Oh okay

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he doesn't skip time he deletes it

I completely forgot about that.

Based on what? King Crimson can break bones and tear flesh, but Star Platinum can rip through metal and stone.

Optical illusion

>Jonathan Joestar is called JoJo
Yeah...
>Joseph Joestar is called JoJo
Ok...
>Jotaro Kujo is called JoJo
A bit of a stretch but I'll allow it.
>Josuke Higashikata is called JoJo
Wait what there's only one jo
>Giorno Giovanna is called JoJo
It's time to stop.

Star Platinum could carry trains ffs and chuck it at a good speed. Stfu about KC being stronger, his strength is punching a whole in flesh which isn't all that great.

>Giorno Giovanna is called JoJo
When

GioGio

Also with Josuke it's a Japanese thing, the Suke — 助 — in his name may also be pronounced as "Jo", so JoJo

No.
It literally did.

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>Star Platinum has punched through teeth as hard as diamond
>King Crimson is stronger because it donutted a couple of twinks

Still holds the record for most doughnuts made, hes getting employee of the month at Krispy Kreme

It's weaker than stopping time, it's basically a The World but with a nerf patch, those being the extra conditions to be weaker.

Can Diavolo win against time stop? He would see himself "die" in an instant or get hit and erase time to stop it from happening, thus stopping the time stop since the ability to stop time wouldn't spend any of the available 10 seconds Diavolo has to erase time, it would all be instant.

Best yet. Diavolo can spam this shit forever, Dio is stuck on a cooldown every time he tries to use time stop.

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You can treat radiation sickness. The real killer with a nuke is the initial blast. Skip the shock-wave and you have a decent chance of survival.

>Annasui got doughnut'd two times by people he trust a lot.
Damn.

Time stop is better because you can attack while invulnerable. King Crimson makes it a point that he has to deactivate his time skip to do damage and that almost gets him fucked by Silver Chariot.

the one who acts first wins. Honestly Araki should have brought Jotaro into part 5 even though he already did that in Part 4. Jotaro vs Diavolo would be way better than GER.

Can someone please explain exactly how king crimson works?

We been through this before user, Diavalo loses to Dio 9/10 but has a better chance against Jotaro since he isn't a vampire.

he eat da spaghetti

He can save himself from the time stop, but DIO could still win thanks to his vampire strength and regeneration.

He deletes time

The one who acts first would always be Diavolo. He can see the future, therefore he would know he is going to suddenly get pummeled out of nowhere and erase it.

Neither of those things saved him from losing to Jotaro

Realistically?
>Part 3
Vanilla Ice, the stand that makes people into babies, Anubis
>Part 4
Killer Queen BtD, Heaven's Door, The Hand, and unironically Super Fly. The Lock technically could but it requires Kars to feel remorse and haha no.
>Part 5
GER, Notorious BIG, Purple Haze

What does that mean?

People need to actually think before they guess. Diavolo would not be able to defeat DIO or Jotaro. The guy gets tagged by Sticky Fingers and Silver Chariot, he would get FUCKED by The World or Star Platinum even without timestop, with timestop it's a spite match.

Diavolo has a 10 second window where things play out and he can delete that time and so he already knows what is going to happen. He can spam it all he wants too

It's the World plus precognition, but Diavolo doesn't use it that much, besides that time when he toldd Bucciaratti that he knew he was hiding behind the pillar. King Crimson reflects Diavolo's desire of having skipped his cumming inside of Donatella.

Because Jotaro is Jotaro

Don't forget he also gets tagged by Giorno's ants.

Yeah but what does 'deleting the time' actually do. Lets say he has a watch in his pocket. When he deletes time does the watch lose 10 seconds?

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It's makes so none of what just occured happened.

That sounds way better than The World and Star Platinum

>people actually take Araki's dumb statement about Star Platinum being the strongest stand before MiH seriously

SP destroyed The World with a single punch.

Star Platinum has better feats than fucking punching your arm through a person's chest.

kûJÔ JÔtarô
kûJÔ JOlyne

can someone explain how he was keeping his mother alive under the fucking floor? was that a part of his powers?

Jotaro was about to beat Pucci though. He only lost because Pucci targeted Jolyne which made Jotaro save her instead of killing Pucci

Why does everyone think this is reddit?
Is it cause it was established in the first two episodes that Gio is way more Jonathan's son than he is Dios? Or do people just think fan service is reddit now?

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Jotaro can just stop time and put a hole in Diavolo's chest.

King Crimson could beat Made in Heaven

Nobody can explain it. It's meant to be a mystery

He was conceived when DIO was using Jonathan's body so Giorno could also be considered Jonathan's son, that is why he is a jojo. That's why Araki made DIO be Giorno's father, so Giorno could be a jojo too.

Fucking Koichi could BTFO made in heaven

Not even Jotaro could catch Pucci with that speed, how Diavolo, who's dumber than Jotaro, could defeat that Pucci?

Speedreader. Jotaro could have beaten him but chose to save his daughter. If. He let her die he would have been able to kill Pucci

Don't listen to these people. I don't know where the whole "deletes time" thing came from anyway. It's actually very simple.

Diavolo has two abilities. King Crimson can remove himself from time. Epitaph can see the future. It's this combination that makes him so effective. Without Epitaph he wouldn't know what segments of time to remove himself from.

It's that simple. Y'all are just retarded.

This.

Nigger, Pucci knew Jotaro was going to save his daughter, that is why he chose to approach to them that way. How dumb can you be?

>Yeah but what does 'deleting the time' actually do.
You aren't aware of those actions you just did for that amount of time. That's why they relied on "muh count the blood drops".
>Lets say he has a watch in his pocket. When he deletes time does the watch lose 10 seconds?
Depends on how you are phrasing it.
This is the best run down I can give you based on that watch analogy you want.
You take out your watch and you're timing someone as they run.
The person in question is running a lap and you are ready to click the watch at 2mins 20 seconds
King Crimson activates stand at that same moment you were about to click the watch
The watch will read 2:20 but that person is now between you and the finish line to check their time
It throws you off and you question how that person went from point A to point B without you noticing it

If he "removes himself from time" then where the fuck does he go?

People think it’s “reddit” because people liked it. I could say “Gyro is such a reddit character” because a lot of people like him. The thing is oftentimes a lot of people will like the same thing because that thing is actually good. The moment in your picture was just a fun callback. Don’t overthink it.

>t. reddit

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Delete is not a good word to use. Delete makes it seem like every that happens within skipped time is gone, but it isn't really gone. It all still happens except that diavolo is the only one who is aware of what happens inside the skipped segment.

This. One of the biggest advantages of going to an entirely new crew every part with the Stands is that you don't have to worry about power creep, you just reset everything back to a certain level each time. Or just put it at any level you want, really.

>Loving a good character in a series means it is reddit"
>Gyro is considered reddit
This board is going down the toilet. Since when did you faggots give a shit what those cucks like or care about? Or you so pathetic you have to change your stance on something because a group of people like it as well? Grow some balls.

>You don't have to worry about power creep
With every new part the Stands get more retarded. Power creep is present in Jojo

>uses nouns as adjectives

>the stand that makes people into babies
No way. I have no doubt that, even as a baby, he was way more powerful than a regular human, which is what that stand user is outside of the baby thing.

But, they are? When Doppio was fighting metalica and Diavolo saw that Doppio was going to get fucked soon he said that he needed KC to come out so he could erase that future.

remember when aerosmith's bullets hit diavolo when he skipped 0.5 seconds of time

Wherever the fuck he wants to. He still exists in the world he just steps out of the time stream in order to position himself according to what he predicts with epitaph

That's mostly because he just has crazy new ideas. But you don't have to make the stands more powerful every time. It's not inherent to the format like most shonen with a single protagonist who gets stronger as time goes on has. Hell, Jojo even has some characters get weaker over time, like Jotaro, who is blatantly stated to be weaker in Part 4 than he was when he fought DIO

I can do with less of those crazy new ideas. Soft & Wet is such a stupid stand.

I treat King Crimson as being a 10-second period of unreliable glitch-lag.Time is stuttered, skipped, and erased, and the results don't seem to match up on either end, or in each use, or even from point of view seen.

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Completely untrue. As the parts go along the threat levels of Stands become far more personal. Very rarely do we encounter huge, massive Stand battles that endanger large areas or involve big fights, and instead it's usually an intense throw down between two individuals on a tiny scale. One of the most dangerous fights in part 6 is a sniper battle in a prison, another is just a dude whose trying to kill himself, or how about a fucking Stand battle where the enemy is an annoying frog in a boat.

During that fight doppio only had access to epitaph. He could see what would happen but was unable to "erase that future" without KC. KC erases futures by his actions changing the predicted future during skipped time. I don't see what your point is.

Yes and?

He only got the opportunity anyway because Annasui sacrificed himself knowing Pucci would go after him. If it was a 1v1 Jotaro would get wrecked in seconds.

Star platinum made few holes in Dio's body.
The world (High Dio) only broke some bones from Jotaro.
King Crimson pulverized Polnareff to pieces in REALM TIME and in ONE SINGLE HIT.

Part 6 had Bohemian Rhapsody and Made in Heaven

Araki nerfed Star Platinum again in Part 6

>home
>no mr. president

You forgot about Dragon Dream

I was referring his comment to large battles that affect a massive area.

? No he didn't. He actually buffed it back up to what it was in part 3. In part 4 he could only stop time for 2 seconds and Araki buffed him back up to 5 for the final battle.

>King Crimson pulverized Polnareff to pieces in REALM TIME and in ONE SINGLE HIT.
Yeah and then he fell off a cliff and lived. DIO exploded.

>Very rarely do we encounter huge, massive Stand battles that endanger large areas or involve big fights, and instead it's usually an intense throw down between two individuals on a tiny scale.
Green day? Bohemian Rhapsody? Love Train?

>Love Train?
i don't think love train really counts even though it had global range

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Star Platinum's durability went from an A to an E.

After Jotaro just recovered from being a vegetable

>Star Platinum punches someone dozens or hundreds of times
>they fly backwards
>King Crimson chops or punches someone once
>they explode

Diabolo was worthy. King Crimson Requiem would the most based stand in existence.

Jotarofags BTFO

Was that even relevant though? The two times Jotaro got hit that fight, he was the one hit, not SP, so it's durability never came into play. He just got sliced twice and the second time he instantly died without SP even trying to defend him.

It would just be The World Over Heaven. They even state in Eyes of Heaven that TWOH is similar to GER, but has the opposite effect. Meaning that while GER causes your actions to never reach reality, TWOH lets you affect reality directly without the need for actions. It's a logical extension of the "removing cause and keeping effect" idea from king crimson.

Jotaro doesn't punch people at full strength because he has a moral compass. Or are you going to tell me that you think the human body is more durable than a boulder?

He's holding back

I agree, just like how Doppio doesn't have the full strength of KC in example given.

Jotaro pulls his punches because he doesn't want to kill people most of the time. Diavolo has no reason to hold back since his identity is on the line.

>sons of Dio commanded to come in Part 6
>Giorno and GER conviently missing
Araki is truly the hack of hacks

That's just some convenience hoesntly, his stomach exploded there, DIO didn't die there until Jotaro had the time stop.

I think Jotaro has it easy with Diavolo, but Dio against him it wouldn't be that easy.

Not to mention you need a good few seconds of contact to age even a few decades. Kars is like 10000 years old.

To be fair, even at the times where Jotaro WANTED to kill, it wasn't as brutal as some normal KC' beatdowns.

No it wouldn't. The arrow responds to your desires so the requiem ability would have something to do with wanting to remain hidden

Diavolo said he gave him the arms of King Crimson. He doesn't have the full time erasure ability but the physical strength shouldn't have changed.

>The arrow responds to your desires
No, it doesn't do that.

Are you confusing the One Ring with the arrow

>The arrow responds to your desires

Oh boy this youtube e-celeb headcanon again.

swinging your arms around makes for weak punches you need your whole body and put some weight into your punches

You don’t get what I was saying. Anything good is considered reddit by the idiots here.

The brutality of the kill still depends on their character, not raw strength.

that only demonstrates why it's worse at being offensive not why it's better at being defensive

Bites the Dust proves me right

>Bites the Dust
>having anything to do with Requiem
Oh boy

>Gio brings Turtle Polnareff along with the arrow inside
>Heartfelt reunion between Jotaro and Polnareff
>Arrow gets stolen by Pucci, no more GER bullshit

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Not only is bites the dust not a requiem stand, but Polnareff's flashback destroys your headcanon.

That's probably because Jotaro is a big moralfag deep down despite his crude attitude on the outside. He still has standards even when fighting to the death. He calls his own mom a bitch yet decides to risk everything for her and helped save Kakyoin despite the fact that he almost got killed by him, and even let DIO of all people, stand back up to fight properly.

Only difference is the arrow was used on Kira instead of Killer Queen

Meaning that it isn't a Requiem stand and therefore the rules for BTD do not apply to Requiems

A stand is just a reflection of it's user.

Jotaro would piss his pants if he saw King Crimson

No. Star Platinum has way better feats. It's shown to have the strength to stop a moving truck, and lift the weight of a car, not just lift, but yeet it up the side of a mountain. And it donuted straight through The World with a single punch. The only difference between KC and SP/TW is the fact Diavolo doesn't waste time using punch rushes, he simply donuts and gets out of there. He's more efficient, but SP could do the same thing if Jotaro was a murderous psychopath. But it doesn't. Because Jotaro isn't a murderous psychopath.

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Am I retarded if I though part 3 took place in modern times?

Cope.

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Fucking speedreader. It was multiple punches in quick succession

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Maybe? To be honest the 80s still feels modern to me. I might be out of touch.

Why didn't Jotaro bring Josuke to Italy to heal Polnareff? Why didn't Polnareff get better prosthetics from the Speedwagon foundation?

What a speed reader.
You clearly didn't understood king crimson's ability. When he uses it, it goes into spectator mode for the next 8 seconds. When those 8 seconds end, he could be like "yeah, I didn't liked that, let's do it again".
And so on. Until he finds the most useful way to skip time.
It doesn't stop time. Time goes but in the way Diavolo wants. While the world directly doesn't let the flow of time go.
Which one is better? Well I'm not in the mood to make that analysis.

Polnareff was scared of the mafia and never contacted anyone

That's such a dumb explanation

Welcome to Part 5

>"one" king crimson punch
>multiple fists flying at polnareff
hmm

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>We have to wait at least 5 years for Johnny to figure out the meaning of lesson 5

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my question is WHY. For what reason did Diavolo/Doppio fucking put her under the floor. Like bro what's your damage against her? On top of that why not just kill her or somerhing?

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>we have to wait 5 years for a CGI fest
No thanks

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Not gonna happen.

It was never really implied Diavolo was mentally stable

Like I actually though it took place in the 2010s.

We all said the same thing about Part 5

Part 5 was CGI?

thought you meant never coming in general

Well most of it takes place in foreign countries and the wilderness so it makes sense that someone could see it that way.

whatever you say, dio

Power Symbol should be Ojiro.

>Very rarely do we encounter huge, massive Stand battles that endanger large areas

>Very rarely

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DEATH 13

Weather Report

>king crimson is the strongest fags still exist
Show me the time he broke diamond teeth

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Kars could just turn back from being a snail

that's the real explanation

>become superhacker
>can't contact Jotaro because passione apparantely has a strong grip on the internet even while it's in its infancy
Yup, a great explanation HACKraki

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KC in the hands of someone who isn't an impulsive retard would be stronger than Deus Ex Platinum, pure strength doesn't matter

Heavy Weather is subconcious control, not just transformation. By definition no living organism can revert that
Also he could just throw Kars into space with strong wind, since it can manipulate the atmosphere layers

>pure strength doesn't matter
this is what we're discussing tough. i accept your concession.

>pure strength doesn't matter
Pure strength matters when we're talking about which stand has the most pure strength

Aren't the snails caused by fucking with the UV rays? What if Kars just evolved past UV light.

>Also he could just throw Kars into space with strong wind
Uhh why didn't he just do that to Pucci

I am tired of people underplaying KC, sure he isn't shown lifgting fucking cars but that shit only happens in Part 3.

What IS shown is him tapping a guy and immediately going through his fucking limbs like a hot knife thru butter (polnareff, Giorno's arm) not to mention the donuts.

Hail to the King of The World, baby

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Just the infection. Once one touches a snail or the rainbow their conciousness believes they are literally snails, at that point only way to revert it would be to become braindead

Nobody is saying that KC is weak, but he sure as hell isn't the strongest.

making him into a snail/ sending him to space =/= killing him

>it's newer therefore it has to be better
Kars could still wipe the floor with any stand user if he weren't blown into space by sheer luck

Kira would beat his ass

TW punched Polnareff and he flew away

KC punched Polnareff and he fucking broke very limb he had

King Crimosn is the only other stand in JoJo outside of Part 3 whose punches are Ken-tier stronk

Noone is arguing about TW being stronger, namefag, Dio would beat Diavolo's ass but in terms of pure strenght the strongest stand is either starplatinum or strenght

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Red Hot Chili Peppers took off Okuyasu's arm with just one finger.

>strenght
That's a good point. Those cranes could probably lift way more than Star Platinum could.

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if it focused its power in one place it'd be the strongest physically

>Can't handle an idea

Was DIO stronger than his own stand? A casual backhand after being stabbed in the head was enought to take Polnareff out the fight. Also DIO was the one carrying the road roller

It's hard to say for sure. It seems like any time Araki wanted to show DIO doing some feat of strength, he used DIO himself to do it. Even deflecting the Emerald Splash.

Polnareff was in no state to fight mate, he just did one suprise attack, wheter he got hit by Dio or not he was out

t. reddit

No one said it is better. Regardless, it's more disorienting for the enemy and it also gives more room to avoid unexpected attacks. If an enemy has a plan to attack you and does so, you can erase that entire process making them unaware that they already completed the attack, and perhaps even planned to attack at all depending on the circumstances. But with time stop as long as your enemy is still alive and you failed to predict their next move they can complete the attack. It also lasts for 10 seconds as opposed to The World's 5 (not counting Joestar blood power-up).

the irony is palpable

King Crimson cannot be explained, you have to figure it out on your own like the rest of us

imagine trying to apply logic and consistency to jojo
power level obsessed shounenmexicans are something else

FUN FUN FUN. What good is having the ultimate body if you can't even control it?

Because you also get future sight on top of the Time Skipping.

Imagine you're playing a game online, and you can see exactly what everyone else is about to do about 10 seconds before it actually happens. You can then turn on your own personal lag switch, making everyone think the game is still happening as normal, but you're the only one aware of what's really happening and everyone's positions. Then when you turn it off, everyone snaps around to where they're supposed to be and act confused for a split second before you BTFO them since you already know what's gonna happen. It's not better than a straight-up Time Stop, but the predictions give you more leeway to use it properly.

Also GER is basically just forced packet loss.

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Characters that would have been better final villains than Diavolo

>Punished Leaky Eye Luca
>Truck driver
>Pistol no 4
>The Fly
>The gangster from Giorno's backstory
>That one guy Abbacchio/Mista/Narancia beat up for no reason
>Koichi
>The female prison guard
>Fugo
>Solido Naso
>Reincarnated Janitor Mario
>Punished Polnareff
>DIO
>Pesci
>Another Jojo
>Pericolo
>Trish
>Some random faggot from a gang members backstory
>Another one of DIO's sons

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Wham hid in a horse

He retconned the entire series to stop power creep

He retconned that too

There's no "Jo" letter in Japanese, just "Jyo". No real difference to them between Jo and Gio.

Giorno is an Italian name, the letters gio are pronounced jo

Dio's explosion was a chain reaction resulting from Star platinum's punch destroying the world stand, which Jotaro was only able to do because he outmaneuvered Dio's time freezing with his own to not only create a weak spot on his leg but damage Dio's pride and will to fight.

He can see the immediate future and then remove himself from reality for a moment to avoid whatever fate befalls him
If a predator missile hits him, stopping time wouldn't give him enough time to run away but erasing it can save his ass

>How is this any better than simply just stopping time?
Do people move in his time skip ?
because people moved a lot in 'stopped time'
JK it just work

No, he just punched really hard.

>Menu
kek

How did Bucciarati come back to life? Did Araki intend it to be Gio's secret stand ability but forgot?

Bad writing

>no Whitesnake at disc

its speed and precision

force = mass x acceleration
A fast punch = a strong punch

Stop speedreading.

>reading jojo
Jojo is good for the action, not the storytelling.

The reason Santana gave so much trouble to Joseph is because he was a noob at Hamon. When he tried to fight Esidisi and Wammu untrained he was so weak, they didn't even try to fight him and he got rekt.

Ever since it moved to Ultra Jump the storytelling has been the best quality

Stands you guys haven't mentioned:
>Yellow Temperance
>Gold Experience (Giorno's bullshit is so great he doesn't even need Requiem)
>Highway Star
>Green Day
>Atom Heart Father
>Ratt
>Babyface
>White Album
>Soft And Wet

Rolling Stones wouldn't do shit against Kars since it only fortells a future death. If Kars shows up on the rock then it means he was already fucked from the very beginning.

Forgot to mention Rainy Day Dream Away because I condsider PHF to be canon

death 13

Star Platinum destroyed High Priestess' teeth, which are harder than fucking diamonds. KC has nothing on him.

Fucking lag-switchers

Can Death 13 really kill him? Surely Kars can regenerate from a scythe wound.

The real galaxy brain in this thread

I always imagined KC ability is like a film director in post production, he can cut out the film and it doesn't happen in the "movie" (real life) I've always felt that's an accurate way of putting it.

Someone already mentioned it but honestly I don't see Kars losing that fight. Logically he'd have a better chance of survival in the dream world than DIO, who was supposed to be stronger than any of his subordinates.

>Also GER is basically just forced packet loss.

Thanks Pat.

>Who said it was better? It's just his power, it's not like he can choose a different one.

Thread honestly should have stopped here. You don't get to pick your Stand, so going "wtf this isn't better than time stop" makes no sense.

Santana had to rely on those abilities extensively because he was weaker than the others. For fuck's sake he had trouble with a human who had weak Hamon and a regular Nazi with a grenade. Meanwhile the main three pillar dudes could do everything he could, but decided not to because they had their own personalized fighting styles that involved absolute control over their own bodies to the point that one of them could actually run around in the sun and create giant cyclones of destructive wind, one of them could boil you alive, and one of them could focus light into insanely sharp blades.

>TAKE THIS, BUCCIARATI!
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
what the fuck were they thinking?

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It's still relevant because for all of his speed, Jotaro still managed to get fucked up in parts 4 and 6 while having time stop. Granted that was more due to his not having practiced it in a while in the former and him having a delay between uses in part 6.

If there isn't a delay between uses it wouldn't be 2/5/9 seconds anymore.
Pretty sure all time-based stands have a cooldown, only Jotaro and Ringo spelt it out though

Suffered a surprise attack because he thought Pucci was going to get affected by Heavy Weather if he approached, only to find out that Pucci had removed his own sight and was able to track him because lolJoestar birthmark radar. After he gains the upper hand again, he gets distracted by Jolyne's car crashing nearby and Pucci finishes him off. He never really got a chance to use his full abilities on Pucci.

The sons of DIO who appeared were all losers or were missing something in their lives, and were drawn to Florida because they felt the need for fulfillment. Giorno already had shit going on and probably only felt a small compulsion to go to Florida. He probably just briefly thought he wanted to go to Disney World or some shit.

Yeah, they're all either heavily implied or outright stated to have a cooldown. The World and Star Platinum always had a cooldown. The reason Diavolo gets hit at all is because King Crimson has a cooldown on skipping time as well. It's all roughly made to be "a few seconds" of cooldown, but it's never outright stated what kind of cooldown they have.

>Pretty sure all time-based stands have a cooldown, only Jotaro and Ringo spelt it out though
Is the cooldown for stopping time ever actually stated?

>effortlessly, in one clean swipe, King Crimson slices Bruno's chest in half

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The World has no upper limit, so Dio could just train the shit out of his stand and deal a 7 year muda during frozen time.

It's never confirmed just how strong Kars' regeneration is, but it's safe to say that he requires total annihilation to die. I mean, he came back from having most of his flesh melted in lava in seconds.

>the stand that makes people into babies

Considering he’s thousands of years old he would have to be in the shadow for a while for it to be effective

You think a nuke completely disappears after 10s lmao?

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No, Epitaph can’t see time stop. There’s no way for KC to counter The World except getting the drop on DIO or Jotaro and attacking first.

But it would see DIO standing with his fist through Diavolo's stomach, which he would just skip past

Did you miss the part during the The World fight where he hits Dio full force and creates holes in his body?

No it fucking isn't you retarded animeonly shitters

How?

How would KC and Mandom's abilities interact with each other?

Diavolo wouldn't be able to do shit against DIO. Sure, he can evade his attacks through time skip and future sight but he would never get the opportunity to strike a lethal blow. DIO would instantly be able to react to any blow and stop time. Even if he went for the head first DIO would be able to stop time since he was able to stop time before Star Platinum (a faster and stronger stand than King Crimson) was able to land a blow on him and DIO still survived said blow to the head.

But he can't regenerate in stopped time, so destroying him should be essy with enough time.