Evangelion

>be shinji
>shinji: the world is destroyed but I did save Rei....
>fuyutsuki: no you didn’t
>shinji going insane
>be rei
>see the boy you love going through emotional pain again
>start crying tear of blood
Anyone notice how rei start to cry after shinji enter terminal dogma? I guess she is still conscious.

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Poka Rei is inside Eva-01. Pictured is Yui.

I think it's worse. Shinji was already discorporated into Unit 01 and that was likely already fired into space by the time of Third Impact, but Rei was clearly involved and those red Eva shapes everywhere, the ones called to Lilith and reaching for her when apparently she was beheaded and theirs all popped off, too, all have Unit 01's particular chestplate and fin design. It looks a lot like she was trying to find him.

Well kaworu did say shinji was the trigger for all of this. (Notice how he blamed shinji for causing 3rd impact and yet he didnt blame him for 4th impact because kaworu was the trigger)

>rei tried to reach him like EOE rei
>end up getting kill instead
>see him going through emotional pain again
3.0 is created to make rei and shinji suffer

Kaworu and Shinji are the same person

No they are not. Shinji might be NGE version of kaworu but he is definitely not the same version as this kaworu. Kaworu himself even express that shinji hasn’t change and is looking forward to meet him

anyone else come to feel that 3.0 is the best of the rebuilds and 2.0 is the worst?

ANIMA confirmed Kaworu is the 'ideal part' and Shinji is the 'flawed part' of Adam.
It explains why they're both triggers, why Shinji goes albino in 2.0, why they sync immediately, etc.
They're pretty much the same person.

>using ANIMA logic in a completely separate universe
You forget there are literally 4 adam (4 soul)in the rebuild universe. It’s further disproved your theory when shinji awakening causes Eva 01 to has 3 eyes while kaworu awakening didnt cause any third eyes on Eva 13.

Eva 01 has the same third eyes as one of the Adam. Guess what, kaworu called the shinji the third. The third and the three eyes Adam.

ANIMA revealed multiple things like Rei Q, Eva 02 going cat-mode, etc. all years before 3.0 came out. I don't think Yamashita pulled the Kaworu-Shinji shit out of his ass.

>You forget there are literally 4 adam (4 soul)in the rebuild universe
Doesn't really disprove anything. Pic related implied there's more than one Shinji and the Kaworu we see in 2.0 and in 3.0 may be different as well.

>It’s further disproved your theory when shinji awakening causes Eva 01 to has 3 eyes
They can cause different awakenings, how does that disprove anything?

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>ANIMA
well, i'm confused as fuck here, what is this multiple-characters thing? how is it even explained in the movie in a non-fan-theory territory?

She could talk to him if she wanted, she still will have gotten out of time at some point.

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During first impact Adam cut off 'his flaws' so he could become perfect. Those flaws eventually came to be the being we know as Shinji, and the perfection that remained of Adam is what we know as Kaworu.
This is how ANIMA describes it, there's mutliple instances in Rebuild that show it will probably be the same in the movies too.

but how is it explained that there are multiple shinjis and kaworus? just like Rei?
Because that wouldn't make sense since Shinji remembers everything and feels the same

The situation is worse that all you imagine, Shinji is not the real son of Gendo and Yui on the rebuild lore, he is actually a direct clone of Gendo but with the non-human soul of Adam, and he's still not aware of it.
though it fix the incestuous bullshit between him and Rei.

Then why would Yui tell Gendo to take care of him in 2.0?

Oh, it doesn't even make sense in Anima. Kaworu's one appearance was as a voice that Shinji thinks is Kaworu, giving a line of supposition that doesn't account for EVA-01 still being of Lilith and unrelated to Adam, Shinji still having been born Lilin, or Shinji having been transformed by becoming EVA-01's core, then the voice shouts 2D4U and bails when Shinji starts questioning.

probably for their fucked up plan.
reminder Gendo Rokobungi is now Gendo Ikari and Yui Ikari is now Yui Ayanami.

so these
are straight bullshit
good to know, i was freaking out

It's not bullshit, that's what happens in ANIMA.

As says, it's straight out of left field and contradicts the AU that Yamashita created, which is exactly why I think it's a plot point that will be revealed in Rebuild - or else where would he randomly come up with the idea to include that? This isn't even the first time he put in an idea that makes no sense in context with his story that would later be confirmed in Rebuild.

all in all, Anno has come up with some horror-worthy iconographies.

because all Rebuild are not completely thought out. Unlike the TV show, Anno here is proceeding by inventing things one by one. that's why 3.0 seems so disconnected from the other two movies. Maybe Anno was not satisfied with how the story was going and he thought it would be a shake to give viewers the same confused state as Shinji, but it is still clear that he changed the cards on the table when the game had already begun.

Yamashita is an ideas guy repurposing old concepts that didn't get used. Like upgrade modules for Evas, international tension about Evas, competing mecha projects, an evil boss Eva running itself and its own agenda, Unit 01 looking to Shinji who is himself being strangely affected by piloting while it decides how it wants to evolve, those were all things he wanted to do by 1995. It's more like Jon Peters trying to get a giant spider into any movie for a decade than like he's secretly telling a metanarrative about a made up cosmology.

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FOR FUCKS SAKES BM-03 STANDS FOR THIRD CHILD HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO GO OVER THIS

You guys forgetting the interviews from the cast before Rebuild 2? I can't recall if it was Ikuhara who said it or not but they said pretty much the same thing, that Kaworu is basically a "perfect vrsion of shinji"

>Ikuhara
He's not attached at all. He's commented on Eva, but it was that someone told him there was a character that reminded them of him and that he wanted to see the blue one happy with a man and impregnated to troll the audience, he doesn't sound like he's seen it.

Anno himself said Kaworu is a perfect version of Shinji, way back in 1995.
This isn't a new concept at all.

Also you're radically paraphrasing what Ikuhara said. He wanted to teach the Rei otaku who were using Rei as escapism as lesson.

>He wanted to teach the Rei otaku who were using Rei as escapism as lesson.

What?
(Just pretend that I lived in a cave until now)

Is not Rei simply popular because she's the classic submissive Gf type?

She became extremely popular in the 90s because she was really the first character of her kind. There's never been a character like Rei before in Anime until Eva came along.
She had a lot of normalfag fans, but there was a very vocal minority of Rei otaku who were batshit insane for her.

They pissed Anno off because they basically ignored that she was a traumatized fucked up girl to make her an uguu submissive waifu, they made her a sex/moe icon.
Ikuhara suggested Anno make Rei get pregnant to some random dude in the last episode to btfo those otaku off and make them realize she doesn't belong to them, that the Rei they're thinking of is just a fantasy completely different from the show.

All of them are worst. All in their own field. No winners here.

>Beta male 03
>Shinji Ikari?!
Deep...

I was thinking to my self how is 3.0 + 1.0 out do the horrors of third impact in EoE. In EoE everyone's AT field was destroyed.
I think we will get reversed impact where everyone will be trapped by their AT field unable to communicate, doomed to loneliness forever and trapped in an eternal dream.
just some random speculation

Funny how Kaworu right before he dies referes to this. "Even when you die, your dreams and curses remain in the is world and are changed through time"

>It's not bullshit, that's what happens in ANIMA
and so, it's straight bullshit to try to explain what happens in rebuild with ANIMA, Anima has its own universe and everything is fine with that, but trying to explain Rebuild with Anima is stupid becasue they aren't even in the same universe or even canon.

I'm not. I'm using the way ANIMA just randomly inserts the Kaworu-Shinji thing as evidence on why it will be featured in Rebuild.
Why would Yamashita put this random thing in his story that not only contradicts several points of his own canon, but is completely random and out of nowhere? It also doesn't seem like the kind of thing he could come up with on his own.

Rei is inside unit 01 you moron.

Rei is ded

>Rei is ded
No,she is my wife

I think the Lilith we see on 3.0 was actually the teen Rei from the SEELE childrens we see on this pic.
The SEELE childrens were involved on this third impact and Kaworu is probably not innocent knowing his bond with Eva mk06.

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Only a millennial would like the disjointed soulless janky shit that is 3.0.