Shit shows Yea Forums tricked you into watching

The happiest one

Dont pretend to be retarded please, Suka is the bottom of the barrel LN garbage we get every year. Nobody even fucking dies or gets hurt

Eureka 7, I hated every single character. Fuck.

How is it anything like SAO? Is it because the main guy has black clothes and a sword?

Yeah, he also has the same debth as Kirito so it makes them competely same

thank you for telling me you didn't watch the show

Most of the “masterpieces” that Yea Forums praises are absolute garbage

What level of irony are you on?
Is this some 5th layer of irony meta-post-post-ironic reironistic bait, or are you legitimately retarded?

I can agree with you on that

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What do you mean? At least half of these are considered masterpieces by Yea Forums.

>Nobody even fucking dies or gets hurt
>has the same debth as Kirito
lol, not taking it
>in before hurr durr I am just pretending to be retarded

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They're absolute garbage as well.

>SukaSuka
>not like SAO
Fuck off retard, that's exactly why SukaSuka was good. It didn't have garbage RPG/gaming elements and wasn't an Isekai. It had decent enough animation.

>SukaSuka music
>not god tier
Retard, kill yourself

>Bait this bait that
Please tell me how MC or any other character has any depth in the anime? You cant, you basically cant. Only thing MC-kun has going for himself is the generic nippon backstory of losing his friends and being transported into an another world by being frozen in time. His skills are nothing more than isekai wankery, basically fantasy version of "look at my modern knowledge and TOOLS!".

As for the girls theyre one dimensional as hell. Only thing Fem MC has to stand out is "muh love", blue hair and "muh suffering". We learn nothing other than she wants MC-kuns babies. Sure, she loses her memories but thats basically dialogue, it doesnt actually affect the course of the show.

The whole garbage heap is native isekai, it really is. Instead of being transported into another world the MC is simply transported in time.

>Fuck off retard, that's exactly why SukaSuka was good. It didn't have garbage RPG/gaming elements and wasn't an Isekai. It had decent enough animation.
So you eat shit long as it doesnt have worms in it? Good to know you have garbage standards.
>Retard, kill yourself
Yeah, the generic symphony and orchestra sure lightened up the mood. Its not like we hear those same tracks every season with every fantasy show. Fuck off retard.

OreImo for me.
I still don't know why I kept watching after episode when each and every one of the girls is fighting for who gets MC's cock.
I can't say I didn't see it coming.

>native isekai
you retards don't even use your meme phrases correctly. What happened to the "it has rpg elements in fantasy setting so it's a native isekai" Not that your bait was even good to begin with

This is a shortcut of the ending scene
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The thing with the setting is that MC-Kun is NOT overpowered, but a complete and utter wreck who can't do anything at all to protect anyone, every time he does something he spits blood. His body is completely ruined.
That is why the only thing he can do is catch Neph and shield her with his body.

Chtholly then saves them by going ballistic and sacrifices herself. She dies.

How is this even related to SAO? There are no levels or stats. There is no way to win the day. There is just a broken MC in a broken and dying world with cute waifus who are all destined to die and DO DIE.
The story is basically about how it's nice to have small pieces of happiness even in spite of that.

Like, you can complain about this. You can not like it, call it edgy, call it cringy, but SAO? Come the fuck on, if you actually are not baiting then you are literally subhumanly retarded, nigger.

Native isekai isnt a meme phrase, its a word that is just used in wrong context. Isekai implies that the main character is transported to a completely different world whilst native implies the world does not actually change. When the SukaSuka MC travels about 500 years in time, sleeps through destruction of the world, humankind and the surface then that is native isekai.

You should really stop using the word meme

You should stop forcing your retarded meme definitions then. Not that you'd listen to anything other than your autism

>The thing with the setting is that MC-Kun is NOT overpowered, but a complete and utter wreck who can't do anything at all to protect anyone,
Except he did. He alone changed the way how fairies fight. Before him they opened gates, after him they solo threats with the swords only he can tune. If that isnt Mary sue isekai MC then I dont know what is. Also in the context of the world only fairies are more powerful than him so its not like he is weak, he is powerful enough to compete with literal undead killing machines.
> She dies.
Didnt.
>How is this even related to SAO? There are no levels or stats. There is no way to win the day. There is just a broken MC in a broken and dying world with cute waifus who are all destined to die and DO DIE.
Nobody died though, not even Chotolly. Its just a cliffhanger but she reincarnates. And the MC is actually broken, not just figuratively like I said previously.
>The story is basically about how it's nice to have small pieces of happiness even in spite of that.
True but its not a very good one.
>Like, you can complain about this. You can not like it, call it edgy, call it cringy, but SAO? Come the fuck on, if you actually are not baiting then you are literally subhumanly retarded, nigger.
Its not really baiting. The MC draws immense parallels to Kirito.

Kirito
>Transported into a new reality
>OP as fuck
>Ladies man
>Black sword guy
>Obsessed about love through the show
Black agalite swordsman
>Transported into a new reality
>OP as fuck, just as a support. Overhauls whole military system overnight.
>Ladies man
>Black sword guy
>Obsessed about love through the show

Yes, and One Piece is also an issekai then, because they literally go to a place called NEW WORLD after a TIME SKIP.
You can spin any definition around so long until you have yourself a nouse. But please hang yourself with it when you are done.

>I dont like the word so it doesnt exist!
>Look at this totally different example
Okay retards.

So goblin slayer is a native isekai because of the rpg elements, this is an isekai because of time travel, how many more are you gonna push? Bleach? All of fate? Sky is the limit.
>I dont like the word so it doesnt exist!
It doesn't because it's just a forced definition made by one guy that didn't like goblin slayer that doesn't make sense with any of your mental gymnastics

>So goblin slayer is a native isekai because of the rpg elements, this is an isekai because of time travel, how many more are you gonna push? Bleach? All of fate? Sky is the limit.
Fate would work if it was from the point of Saber or Cu. Whats your point?
>It doesn't because it's just a forced definition made by one guy that didn't like goblin slayer that doesn't make sense with any of your mental gymnastics
Who gives a fuck

>No flashy animation.
Because the point isn't the action you retard.
>No gaming elements.
That's a good thing you tasteless fuck.
>Bad music
Sukasuka's OST is miles better than SAO.
>Like SAO
Unironically go and gouge your eyes out.

You actually can't agrue against the fact that half of the anime can have the definition of a native isekai. Sure is a useful one.
>Who gives a fuck
I see, so you're literally retarded.

>she reincarnates
Oh moving the goal post here?
So she DID die. You claimed """no one even got hurt""".
Let's leave out the philosophical ramifications of reincarnation as a concept.

Kirito
>Transported into a new reality
>OP as fuck
>Ladies man
>Black sword guy
>Obsessed about love through the show
Guts
>Transported into a new reality after the eclipse
>OP as fuck
>Ladies man
>Black sword guy
>Obsessed about love through the show
Sasuke
>Transported into new reality after learning the truth
>OP as fuck
>Ladies man
>Black sword guy
>Obsessed about love(for his brother) through the show

Like, if you name the most superficial characteristic you can literally make ANY two characters seem similar.
This is just an obvious dishonest argument.
If you were HONEST, then you would realize that the MC is OBVIOUSLY meant to represent a broken character who USED to be like Kirito. It's a subversion.
Imagine Kirito, but instead of beating the boss, he loses and gets sent to the future and is broken.

Kill yourself

>Its like SaO
Top kek.

>You actually can't agrue against the fact that half of the anime can have the definition of a native isekai. Sure is a useful one.
But thats wrong you dipshit. Even timeskips barely count since theyre in decades and dont change locations/worlds.
>I see, so you're literally retarded.
Tough shit that not everyone cares about your generals drama faggot.

>So she DID die. You claimed """no one even got hurt""".
Well yeah, if you immediately come back alive after dying then how does it matter? It doesnt, death is just a pit stop like getting lost in the woods for a month.
>Imagine Kirito, but instead of beating the boss, he loses and gets sent to the future and is broken.
What youre comparing is completely dishonest as Guts/Sasuke werent actually transported anywhere or even in time.
>Like, if you name the most superficial characteristic you can literally make ANY two characters seem similar.
You still cant name anything that would give MC depth, all you can do is to quote me and run around circles since MC does not have the complexity to differentiate himself from Kirito like Guts would from Sasuke.
>MC is OBVIOUSLY meant to represent a broken character who USED to be like Kirito. It's a subversion.
yeah, real subversion when he overhauls military overnight and transforms suicide operations into winnable battles by his experience alone.

Read book nigger

Would futurama be a native isekai then?
And IF SO, what about back to the future?

>Tough shit that not everyone cares about your generals drama faggot.
I can't believe you don't see the problem with where the word even comes from to begin with. You are also using it however it suits you in the argument just because "isekai is bad" so to show that a series is bad you need to make the comparison. From today on I'm gonna call harry potter books alternative sci-fi because it suits me

Do you understand that there are already terms that define things like "timeskip" or "rpg elements"? Are you just using native isekai just because it makes something look bad? Maybe if you actually read some books you'd understand why a flimsy definition like that is shit

I really dont care who created the word if its apt and has real world, meaningful usage.
>you are also using it however it suits you in the argument just because "isekai is bad" so to show that a series is bad you need to make the comparison. From today on I'm gonna call harry potter books alternative sci-fi because it suits me
Thats your right and I dont actually consider isekai inherently bad as there are some good ones.
>Back to the future
Not sure if its future enough
>Futurama
In princible yes but Futurama being American cartoon that gets it comedy from popculture and then current events Im not sure.

user, the MC does not need to have depth. ANY literally me MC does not have depth.
What even would be depth to you? Sasuke does not have any depth either beyond MUH REVENGE.
The MCs depth is: He lost in the past, and has to deal with the fact that everything is his fault because they lost. He has to deal with the fact that he is not as strong as he used to be. And that is depth in away. It's a totally different situation - period.
The list of characters with true depth in ALL ANIME is actually extremely short.

SukaSuka is different from SAO because the setting is different.
SAO is WISHFULLFILMENT.
SukaSuka is a TRAGEDY.

It is not the same genre.
Using your definition of Isekai, Steins Gate would be an isekai because the MC changes timelines and thus worlds.
And he is also brooding at some point. Therefore it would be exactly like SAO.
EVERYTHING is like SAO.

Timeskip does not imply isekai though. Naruto time skips, HxH time skips and everyone else time skips but rarely do those time skips alter the world much as in SukaSuka. In Naruto human race isnt replaced by dogs and cats, in Naruto oceans havent dried and timeskip isnt 500 years into the future.

Claiming timeskip is somehow similar is completely dishonest.
>rpg elements
Not every Isekai has those though

>has real world, meaningful usage.
There is no usage other than trying to compare a series to isekai when it's not one. There are terms that make a better job at describing what a given series is about while this can have fuckload of uses as shown in this thread. The original guy who used it never even talked about any timeskips just how isekais often have rpg elements and that's how you define a natvie isekai. You literally changed/added to his definition to suit yourself. If you don't see what's wrong with a definition that you can change on a whim and that has such an ambiguous meaning I don't know what to tell you.

>Yeah, he also has the same debth as Kirito
What are you talking about

I don't have the patience to write a wall of text, but she did die(later) and didnt come back to life. That's the fate of all fairies

The main point of an isekai is that it skips from the
ORDINARY world
into a
FANTASTIC world

If just changing worlds during the story is engouh, then naruto is an isekai because at some point they are in kaguyas dimension which is a different world.
The MC was a hero in the past already.
The skip happens at a totally different point in the arc.

If that makes it an isekai, then Lord of the Rings is an isekai, because the RING was lost for millennia and it's a big timeskip where lots of stuff changes.

>The main point of an isekai is that it skips from the ORDINARY world into a
M FANTASTIC world
Yes
>If just changing worlds during the story is engouh, then naruto is an isekai because at some point they are in kaguyas dimension which is a different world
Except that happens mid arc and isnt a semi permanent or sudden like in Alice in wonderland etc. Changing worlds in naruto isnt an important part of the story, its like going to the shitter
>If that makes it an isekai, then Lord of the Rings is an isekai, because the RING was lost for millennia and it's a big timeskip where lots of stuff changes.
If Ring was the MC and we had her perspective in waking up 9999 years in the future where magic is gone then yes.

But it's saaaaad.

Thanks for making me remember.

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Jesus, how can you add so much shit to this and still use it as if it was a proper way of describing a genre. The worst thing is how you are the only person using it like this, and just made it up right now. Similar to how it was made up before with completely different meaning. I don't even understand why you would do that when there are other ways of describing the story. It's almost like the whole definition was just forced by one guy to get (you)'s and fuck with a fanbase

Man, this is not at all what I expected from the annual sukasuka thread.

Just imagining the amount of shit taste you must have is staggering

This thread is a fucking shitfest of trolling and reverse-trolling.

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I got tricked into reading Little Busters
>dude trust me the visual novel is so much better!
Its 40 hours of boring shit
The baseball minigame was nice though

Alicization

P
Arcs 1, 2 and 3 were decent but arc 4 was pure mediocrity

people just need to stop replying to him.

>The worst thing is how you are the only person using it like this, and just made it up right now.
But its the literal meaning of the word. Isekai means transportation to another world and native simply implies that world remains the same. Just like word biography etc implies recording your life. And sure, the specifics are open to interpretation but general meaning is there.
>Similar to how it was made up before with completely different meaning.
Thats just abusing the vocabulary for trolling

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Sorry, not world but the location does not change ergo its native.