Kaguya-sama

>forced drama with the president.
1/10 speedreader shitposter

I know why Miko likes that bear.

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Remember when this manga was good?

Twitterfags already want Ishigami to fuck Miko on that bear.

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It was never good

MIKO WILL WIN
MIKO WILL WIN
MIKO WILL WIN
SLUTBAME WILL LOSE
SLUTBAME WILL LOSE
SLUTBAME WILL LOSE

Yes.

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link pls

yeah when IshiMiko got focus

Kei's eyes?

I can't imagine my self insert will fuck a used good instead of the pure maiden. I will kill myself if that happens.

Hopefully all of you fags do it. Would certainly improve the threads

twitter.com/usagi1435/status/1159130937742901249

t.slutbamefag

This guy's gonna meltdown when Tsubame wins.

Wrong

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Canary fucks chihuahua on bear.
hm.
hm
...I'm not seeing it.

>gloating over someone who doesn't even know you exist
pathetic

It will be fun and i will see it
FUck you.

Also, did one of you tweet to Aka calling Tsubame a slut?

Just like when all those Nips totally had a meltdown last few chapters right?

Well yeah, we knew from day one prez and Kaguya would be an item, and we only chimped out at the blueballing. Here we're actually whacking our brains trying to predict the outcome.

fuck off she is cute also draws cute Ishimiko

I recognize that dick!

Even if Miko can control Ishi at the school but on his free time he will be going on dates with Tsubame. Miko meltdown would be great.

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Actually the artist had a meltdown for all the loser flag Miko gave that chapter
And in elevens board it was a lively thread.

>Miko meltdown would be great.
please, dont give me hope, I love seeing cute girls enduring a heartbreak.

Miko and mikofags will go in full meltdown when Ishi rejects her.
but they'll still end up together in the end

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Artist is on an emotional rollercoaster lately.
Don't worry. You'll always have Tsubame.

Slutbame will obviously make up with her chad ex again. It's a doomed to fail relationship.

>Kaguya-sama
who?

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Source?
>for all the loser flag Miko gave that chapter
Such as...?

>Don't worry. You'll always have Tsubame.
but Tsubame is hot, no cute.

She can be cute.

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You're blind
she is cute.

>Tsubame is thot
fixed

Miko's clearly acting like a villainess.

>slutbamefag
>reading comprehension

nah, they'll get into a threesome when Tsubame invites them to another "party"

Hayasaka arc when?

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who?

>Hayasaka
who?

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Tsubame's character growing.

>poyo

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Never, Aka clearly just have her to make snarky comments at Kaguya, but I would love a chapter where Prez and her, specially since they are LINE friends, hang out, and Kaguya spergs out.

growing enough to ntr /our guy/

>we're in the timeline where F of all people would save the manga

>implying this wasnt Aka masterplan since chapter 1
You are barely starting to grasp the genius of his plan.

do you remember female NTR chapters? the ones without sluts whoring out and bitch drama? I remember because I lived back then

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Fujiwara and Ishigami should have gotten together as a funny beta couple. Why did Hacka introduce Lino and Tsubameme?

Is Aka self inserting as Ishigami?

Ishi doesn't deserve a lying cheater.
Also Chika doesn't deserve someone who wouldn't support her tyrant dream.

Yep

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Chika is a semi-closet Tyrant, her little sister is yandere, what is the big sister?

>Hayasaka's winter vacation chapter comes after Miko and Ishigami's vacation, the pointless ramen filler chapter, and Kaguya and Shirogane's date

Oh, I'm not a slutbamefag. Just, Miko's been acting pretty bad lately, and some were worried that it meant she was a bad girl.

Osaragi only dated the captain so that he wouldn't confess to tsubame, leaving her free to take ishigami, all just so that miko wouldn't be loved.

Queen of thots

>Smug = villain
I've been enjoying her character much more recently, but how is that a lose flag for Miko?

>she ends being a loyal girlfriend/wife
>the catch is her having some weird fetish, one that could barely even be considered sexual

Why yes, I do remember when /r9k/ cancer didn't flood these threads. Hopefully the future chapters piss then off enough to drop it

can we hope for the good old days to come back?

>Miko is main character, bros, Ofcourse she will win. Tsubame is a filler. She will rejected him and disappear.Just tolerate her one more chapter and we will never see her again.

That doesn't answer my question

>And I came to butter up!

Remember when Tsubame was good character?

Why yes, I do remember the recent chapters

Is this the same artist who reportedly saw Miko in his dreams or something?

GG, this is it Yea Forums, I'm gonna to call it here.
>just threw all my money into one stock and lost it all 5k in a week
>mom use to keep me locked in the basement for days when i was younger and never got caught for it
>family wants to kill me
>keep hearing niggers and homos giggling 10 feet from my window every night
>get gang stalked every single day (helicopters sometimes keep flying over me and i know they're spying on me because of the way they're rotating)
>older brother has recently came out as a tranny and has admitted he has sexual feelings for me
>younger sister is a furry, also one time caught her masturbating to loli porn
And thats not even half of it, even thinking about my life makes me sick to my stomach. But i'm honestly just going to cut straight to the point. Since you guys have always been my main board, and since you've kept me entertained and sometimes happy. I'll return the favor. I'll be streaming my suicide in about 20 minutes. In the mean time, I'll answer any questions you may have for me.

stream url and quickrundown:
pastebin.com/vPSEpqY6

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club orgy soon

k will be there

Examples please, for my dick

Post papagane!

I think that's this one. Has been flipping the fuck out, very clearly invested in the ship.
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Aka likes Ishigami
So he makes him suffer.

Based Koba-chan in charge of maintaining kino

She needs to do it again but this time dropping the spaghetti.

she likes doing it while wearing mascot customes, no those cases where both persons are doing inside one, but each person wearing one and trying to get into it, despise the massive bulk.

Die alone, faggot

I'm hoping for the reversal, with Ishigami teasing her this time

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The whole room needs to be incensed to hell and back if she wants to get moist
No sandalwood aroma and your dick is gonna get sandpapered down

it's way too awkward to tease the girl you refused to fuck

??
Why

DELET

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Now that would be Ooc for him to do that
He wouldn't do that even to Miyuki.

Nigga be trippin, man. I guess that's what happens when you get invested enough on a ship to make fanart.
It's still fucking funny, though. Like get a grip, my dude.

The chapter JB, give it to me

would you tease the girl you rejected?

Either of that would be glorious. Do it Aka you fucking hack. Atleast make this shit interesting.

Iino+Ishigami > Kaguya+Kaichou

Prove me wrong

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Oh, to correct you. It's not his dreams. It's hers. Girls love Miko-chan.

has her collection of chads telling sweet things ever been brought up again?

>Prove me wrong
i literally can't

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This chapter's ending, with Osaragi ominously calling Miko's upcoming realization a bad thing (probably because she expects her to get her heart broken) is the first legitimate loser flag Miko's had.
There's still far, far more pointing to Miko winning, but she definitely will suffer a lot before getting there. He's not going to move on from Tsubame easily.

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>Girls love Miko-chan.
that's why she's worst girl

It's a bad thing because she wants to fuck her best friend Miko.

Can't fight shit taste so there is no point

Fucking kek user that was hilarious, thanks for that mental image

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One of them will be Mikado

Y'know, even if Kaguya and Prez never returned to the focus, I'd be pretty happy with this manga. Somehow, they ended up becoming the most boring thing about it. I was looking forward more towards F/Prez chapters than Kaguya and Prez. Pretty based Aka.

Thank God these two will be carrying the manga from now on.

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ETA until Mikado comes and save this shitshow?

the development will be amazing

He didnt reject her though .
Just turned down mating session

>tfw I only read this because of Kaguya and Prez
I'm not disliking the current chapters but I wish they could end already.

>Kaguya-sama wo kokurasetai!
>Kaguya havent appeared since last year

Bravo, Aka you fucking hack.

We almost had that when prez invited her rapping, but then Kaguya came along too. I'm disappointed the confession before we could get more Haysaca x prez antics.

Why is Shirogane so useless?

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I really need someone to give me an actual example of forced drama. I've seen this term spewed at literally everything drama related that it seems to only mean "thing that I don't like."

IshiMikofags are really fucking glad that Miko likes him without knowing if he gave her the flower or not.

No surprise that they'd wanna self-insert to the girl with the shitty attitude and have the boy who's practically a saint beneath the asshole exterior to fall for them

This is Onedera's manga now.
Post OnoderASS.

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>I'm disappointed the confession before we could get more Haysaca x prez antics.
we could still get them
>Kaguya birthday or valentine is coming
>Prez ask Hayasaka for help to look for a present
>Kaguya has been reading some maid love story where the maid steals her misstress man
>she somehow manage to learn about Hayasaka and Prez "date"
>freaks out
>follows them
>gets late and miss them looking for the present
>they are only hanging out now
>for a big part of the day
>they may even encounter Ishigami and Miko
>Kaguya loosing her shit all the time.

are ishi and miko gonna date or not? they were holding hands at the end.

If Aka's India trip is any indication, it's likely that his first appearance would be in India, which could be kino.
I'm scared that El Hermano de Maki wouldn't live up to the hype bros

We shoujo now

I love twitter now?!!

I wonder if Osaragi will go to Shirogane for help after what happened this chapter. The wording from this panel in chapter 103 kinda implies they'll try to mediate things between them again at some point.

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Next chapter maybe
It will probably set up the whole Fujiwara/Hayasaka incident with Kaguya requesting her to keep F busy or making her crazy post date
I need my fix of best girl

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Both Tsubame and Miko are trash
Ishigami deserves someone better

He deserves Maki

He deserves nobody

Unironically would make a good couple based on aesthetics alone

He deserves Mikado

>Not Onodera

What chapter's this from?

SPEED UP THE NIGHT MIKADO

tiles

Do you guys want to see Chika with a serious romantic development? (no yuri shit)

oh God, someone post the screencap.

So a repeat of the Maki/Tsubasa/Kashiwagi scenario?

He deserves (You)

exactly, but since this is Kaguya, this wont end bad for her, since she got the good luck when it comes to romance, unlike Maki, remember, a lot of jokes of Maki is that she is a Kaguya that has shit luck on romance, soo a lot her situations are similar to Kaguya, this time is Kaguya being in a similar situation to Maki, but a different outcome.

Yes

Good thing she is not after the Prezbowl
Kaguya would sweat if this woman was her rival.

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I'd like to see Chika with a serious development, doesn't matter whether it's romantic or not.

Because he didn't have a mother to help him learn instead of just chucking him into the deep end and expecting him to swim.

It was when he found Fujiwara that Prez found a true Mommy.

Was the furry remark just the gook translator memeing us?

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Do the recent revelations about Osaragi justify her relatively trash exam results?

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JB version is out

If it comes at the expense of fun for drama, then no

ishitgami is a piece of shit that deserves to be cuck'd by slutbame's ex

Chika deserves to be alone. Subject F deserves no love except chaos itself.

better than pointless Fujiwara chapters

Could have been Koreans memeing us.

JB version is out

who

Johnny Bravo

Kaguya Wants to be Confessed to Official Doujin

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>(no yuri shit)
Fujiwara x Hayasaka is happening whether you like it or not.

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I'm just hoping for a satisfying conclusion, whatever that might be.

>JB doesn't want to insult the furries
hmmmm

Why is this so different, what is the deal here JB?

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>ishitgami is suffering thanks to Miko
where

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jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/kaguya-wants-to-be-confessed-to/en/0/158/page/1

JB version. Some of the dialogue flows better, not much changed.

>gook translator memeing
can """""""we"""""""" trust him?

If it comes at the expense of Hayasaka finding the guy friend she wants, no.

he was right though

I'll check the raws as soon as they're out.

>actual line is "furries"
>it's translated to "even worse"
I don't see the problem here.

The raws have been out for a while already.
mega.nz/#F!81hUSYYI!ZlvCxMbiyPxCca4QnpvL5Q

I like how everyone thinks Ishigami and Miko's story is ruining the manga, the manga went to shit the moment Iceguya's arc started

You are wrong Satan

>Iceguya arc = Central arc
>Ishiharem arc = dark chef arc

>Soma cucks want to compare

ShindoL should be taught in schools, everyone would immediately become abstinent vegans and terrified of drugs.

go back to your grave otterfag

Shamefur dispray, satan
"""Ice""" arc is the best thing in the manga

>Ishigami this
>Ishigahmee that
>Ishigami gami gami gami gami
Can you all please talk about other stuff that isn’t Ishigami? This is getting so annoying and it’s making me angry. Ishigami is so fucking shit and I seriously can’t understand how you don’t get tired of talking about him without ever stopping. What about Miyuki? What about Tsubasa? WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THE OTHER GUYS, ITS NOT FAIR. Ishigamifags are the worst, I hate them and I hate Ishigami. Ishigami a shit. A SHIT.

Ishigami is literally you. Why do you hate yourself?

You actually have your own board. I'll even help you, since it doesn't show on 4chanell, newfriend.

So, this last chapter was bout the aproaching shitstorm
i hope the next one starts it so we can see once its done, cute interactions beteewn prez and kaguya

Next one IS about prez and Kaguya.

The raws specifically mention furries, so that was probably Koreans making a joke.

great

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This shit is finally getting sidelined for the actual main couple stuff.
Just idiotic antics of two retards dating for a few chapters is what the manga needs.

but next chapter is in 2 weeks

Okay lets see about Onodera.

Why is Onodera's butt so lewd?

i have endured worst
tough i enter uni in a couple of days so, i am fucked anyway

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Ah, thanks. Yeah, it's not "even worse". There are a few other translation errors, though. Translating that note at the end as "She can't love, but" is wrong. it doesn't even include the quotes around "can't love". It should be something more like,
>It's supposed to be "Cannot Love", though...

>aka doesn't take this golden oppprtunity to shit on the furries
what did he mean by this?

Well i take it that way
Based aka dabbing on furries.

Or
>It should be that she "Cannot Love", though...
But that's nitpicking. That should or supposed to is very important to the meaning, and that's what matters.

I want a Chika girlfriend bros.. I wanna go on comfy ramen date with her.

Is a note anyway is not like it really matters
Im always surprised that people keep tl those things

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It's not important, but it was something obviously wrong.

He drew it. The madman drew Ishigami fucking her on the bear.
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Based

what a hero

absolute madman

That's really lewd.

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Osuragi actually a serial killer. She hides her beauty and immense intellect because she wants a quiet life of reading BL and drowning drifters she finds in manga cafes. Her Stand is「DOWN BY THE RIVER」which can drown people in solid matter as long as the medium is more voluminous than the body, and people so drowned will sink into the earth where they can never be found.

But I don't have a midget lusting for my dick

Some of these IshiMikofags seem to all the childish motifs around her, because pairing that off with a long haired boyfriend gives it a sort of corruption feeling.

>seem to
seem to like*

It will be the best time of your life user. Cherish it while it lasts.

I've greatly enjoyed every single recent chapter, including the ones that made you dumb incels so upset. Stay mad, faggots.

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Oh, seems he accidentally left a line on the bear's chest. Fixed version.
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If only life was that simple.

If it's never taken truly seriously I'd be fine with it.

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Yeah
someone like me

Fuck you for making me see this abomination

this is my second semester already
it isnt that great its full of commies and feminist

based guau guau

Incel.

>he doesn't recognize the most well known smuggims
fuck off newfag

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Incel.

You’ll regret it if you don’t wake up user. You’ll wake up one day and realized you squandered a great chance.

Roastie

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deja vu

eh, will go , dont worry
i just dont like , like 90% of the people i see

Incel.

Enter a club, you'll be happier for it.

i cant believe notjag joined jb
jag pls come back...

This. I waited two years until I finally did. Now I'm practically prolonging my studies so I can spend more time there.

That leaves 10%. That’s massive.

Maybe stop judging people too. Not for their sake but your own. Every time you judge someone and feel negative about them, you make yourself more stressed out. You are the one who has to deal with that stress, not them.

Maybe they deserve to be judged, but what do you gain from it? They will still be there tomorrow. As I get older I have learned this is why tolerance—putting up with people if you think that’s too leftist a word—is the best course.

I'm not supporting user's statement but no, it doesn't mean that, or shouldn't.

It's contrivance. That's it. Not very hard to understand, is it?

i dont think there are clubs there, besides DnD
well, i do talk whit a lot of people, but i just talk whit them and i dont considerate them friends, as they are too retarded and i dont want to get infected whit they shitty ideology
Plus, if you say out loud something they will not like, they will crucificate you, so i pass of being attacked by a mob of retards and hang whit my small group of fellow "yellow´s" as they called us, just because we agreed whit the teacher on something they wanted to be lazy and not do

How the fuck does your university not have clubs? Even elementary schools have clubs.

I don’t know how it is in other countries, but I have never met an actual communist, not even in grad school. Nor did I encounter many girls who were militant feminists. There were some who complained about issues relating to women and sometimes I agreed and sometimes I didn’t. Eventually I realized getting stressed about what I disagreed with them about wasn’t worth it so I talked to those people about things we had in common and I was able to get along.

I caused myself a lot of unneeded stress by not following this policy but it is a good one. Nobody in university ever made fun of sincere beliefs and no one will make your change yours. But this user isn’t happy. People on /pol/ are some of the most miserable I’ve ever seen. It isn’t worth it to live like that, or I don’t think so at least.

Find nicer people. Fuck, there’s probably an anime club. It may be full of cringe-inducing people, but they’re not all bad. What do you have to lose?

It depends on the country and the institution. My uni has like four or five official clubs that the university endorses and funds, and students don't really form their own clubs. Club culture just isn't a thing, you need to get out of the university context to possibly find more.

I haven't read this since their first kiss
did they move on or is something funny with their parents?
or same shit?

Fuck off with this RL shit
Now talk about Kaguya and how she will name the baseball team

Sounds like a simple case of just needing to grow up a bit. I say this with all good intent, because I've been in the same mindset.

You mean after the festival? They spent Christmas together, there were some upsets here and there before that when Icekaguya took over. Their story is in a hold up for now because some Ishigami love triangle.

I dont know, people gotta study a lot, its a pretty good uni desu, just, as any good uni is a hard one to stay on, so i doubt there will be too many groups or clubs as everyone is busy trying to pass
I dont really want to go to the anime club, if there is still one
When i went to do the paper work to join the uni, every career had a stand
at the end of this literally party (because they where doing a party on the middle of the hallways) , i found a single, lonely, separated from everything, anime table

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There’s an often old saying; female otakus like to imagine and picture a story on their minds whereas male otakus would prefer to see how a story goes “visually.” The theory has brought about this…yes, it’s ドリーム小説[dream shousetsu, “dream novel“]. It’s also said as 夢小説[yume shousetsu]( 夢 means a dream). To get to the point, ドリーム小説 is a fan-made novel on the net, and some of those characters’ names can be decided by readers, so you can enjoy the story as if you were in there. Most stories stem from manga, anime, otome games, or live-action movies or whatsover. So all you have to do is just enter your name before you start to read it, and you can be the heroine in the story…and have fun with your favorite character.

It sounds like most readers for dream novels are fujoshi(BL fangirls), but actually not necessarily. Though such fan-made, I mean BL fan-made novels are everywhere on the net. Some fujoshi might dislike dream novels whereas other dream novel readers(from now, we can say ドリーマー[dreamer]) might insist they dislike BL…and they would say they are 夢見乙女(dream novel reader). In fact, I asked my fujoshi friend how she feels about ドリーム小説, and she said like;

“Well, I for one shall play otome game if I want to have fun with bishounen. It would be boring to put myself into such a dream novel. If I read a fan-made novel, it should be BL because that would be much enjoyable. I don’t think I want to enjoy dating in such a dream novel. I am not so “dreamy,” you know.”

…O-Okay, so then I shall explain some terminology for dream novel readers here.

Why would anyone root for miko? Also does the fact that tsubame was cheated on change anything about the situation? For me not really, though it adds credence to why she was inclined to act like a stupid teenager

Ishigami will win Tsubame by joining the rhythmic gymnastics club.

1. 裏[ura]; Literally it means reverse or back. But in dream novel circles, it also means a dream novel which includes some pornographic contents.

2. 男主人公[otoko shujinkou]; Basically, you can be the heroine in a dream novel, but in this genre, you can be the hero. So the name you shall enter must be a male one, and you would move on with the story. Yes, you could feel a buddy friendship, otherwise you would end up placing yourself in a BL story…

3. 逆ハーレム[gyaku harem]; In this genre, the heroine should be surrounded by several bishounen. Sounds like otome game! The exact opposite of harem…逆[gyaku] means a converse.

4. クロスオーバー[cross over]; A dream novel where some characters from a different series show up. Like Harry Potter world gets a connection with Load of the Ring world.

Yeah, I mean on the roof after the festival.
Thanks, are they officially together right now?

5. 作品傾向[sakuhin keikou]; This term is used to simply distinguish what kind of taste the dream novel is. For example,

a. 友情[yuujou]; It depicts two(or more) boys’ friendship.

b. エロ[ero]; It is porn (including BL).

c. ギャグ[gag]; It is just a gag story.

d. 悲哀[hiai]; It is a sad story.

e. シリアス[serious]; It is a serious story, no joke.

f. ダーク[dark]; Very depressing…we can also say 鬱展開[utsutenkai].

6. トリップ[trip]; It means to cross the faraway space in order to go to the place where the story takes place such as Yuuri Shibuya in Kyou kara maou.

7. 逆トリップ[gyaku-trip]; Yes, it means that those characters cross the faraway space in order to come to our real world.

8. パラレル[parallel]; In this genre, the setting where those characters are, is completely different from the original. Like…well…Inuyashiya happens to be a school student and plays tennis.

9. 未来[mirai]; Those characters are living in the future world which is made by the author. Like Ryoma Echizen happens to be a pro-tennis player and Tedsuka buchou happens to get married. And they are over 25 years old…

10. SS; It is an abbreviation of Short Story. This is the shortest in all the genre. The longest order is 長編[chouhen], 中編[chuuhen], 短編[tampen], and SS.

I used to like Miko but I don't like her doing things this way.

After Christmas yes

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Great, thank you, I'll find some time to keep up.

>So all you have to do is just enter your name before you start to read it, and you can be the heroine in the story…and have fun with your favorite character.
Honestly that sounds kind of fun. Im guessing the story is always maximum pandering, though?

Maybe you’ll find even one person there. Just that one will be worth the effort.

Why would anyone root for slutbame? Do you feel sorry for her, user?
OH POOR SLUTBAME

It gives context about tsubame, we pretty much knows nothing about how she thinks so this can help with that to the readers and the characters

>Why would anyone root for Miko
she's been through a lot and wants to do the right thing, even if she doesn't know what that is
Also she's suffered a lot and i want to see her happy.

Thanks for this user, people like you make things more enjoyable for everyone through your efforts. I appreciate you.

So pure pity for self inflicted problems?

Basically like the blandest battle harem or isekai trash where you can self-insert on the mc. No personality or characterization, just a name and bland, expected reactions to events that happen around the "character".
I don't really see the appeal in the same way that I can understand why some people write self-insert fanfics, but I guess some find it titillating that they're self-inserting to a story that they do not know how it'll go.

She didn’t deserve to be bullied. No one does. Cute girls especially.

It adds context to her mentality, and helps add to her character, and makes her an actual character, instead of a plot device.

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>why she was inclined to act like a stupid teenager
is that she's a stupid teenager not a good enough reason?

The horror movie collection belonged to Chika's older sister. You guys forgot.

Ever play a Persona game? I think that’s the appeal.

I like Miko the same way I like Ishigami. They're both autistic idiots with highly unrealistic expectations, and it's great.

I've never understood the Miko hate. The truth is, Miko's awkward abrasiveness helps make the manga good. This manga takes a very tired concept and makes it fresh again by having it's characters constantly play off the realistic concept of the unrealistic expectations people have for romantic relationships and each other. If you don't like it for that reason then maybe something more formulaic and predictable like Bokuben is more your speed.

What a madlad. Didn't expect it to be that lewd.

Personally I dont see the problem with it so long as whoever is writing it knows what they're doing.

>She didn’t deserve to be bullied
She's a rare case of a character who completely deserved to be bullied.

>裏[ura]; Literally it means reverse or back. But in dream novel circles, it also means a dream novel which includes some pornographic contents.
>Ishigami and Miko's official roles are 裏主人公 and 裏ヒロイン
>Ishigami's birthday is close to the deadline
>Miko's birthday is roughly TWO MONTHS later

>Why would anyone root for miko?
Because Miko has deep-seated emotional issues and a level of immaturity that is so self-sabotaging that I just want to watch her make a mess of things and struggle to make it all work out in the end. Basically, it's because her character better services my desire for humor than Tsubame ever could.
>They're both autistic idiots with highly unrealistic expectations, and it's great.
This too.

She deserved to be argued against like the Prez did, not have signs stuck to her back.

you are a meanie and i don't like you

That might actually be a decent analogy with RPGs in general. Didn't even think about it because I almost always roleplay a character as opposed to playing how I personally am.

>Guya.moe has a search function to look for words on the chapters
>It actually fucking works
How the hell is this possible? Do they just have the entire script written in a database on the website itself? I wrote like ramen, and I found every single instance it was mentioned in the manga, and the specific pages.

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ok but can we agree Onodera's emotionless sex is endgame?

She's way too stuck up for that now, when she was younger it would be even more fruitless. On a scale froma arguing with her and putting razor blades in her shoes, a sign on her back is a perfectly appropriate medium to get your message across.

>Emotionally stunted and lonely kid is being Stuckup
>Clearly the most reasonable remedy is to bully her

They're self-inserters user, don't bother with them.

She probably criticizes the performance of her partners after sex.

I hate moralfags, especially when they force their values upon others so I hate Lino's character.

That said we got some cute and fun chapters with the StuCo thanks to her. I even started to like her development but she went back to being an annoying bitch in the last chapters. I'd need Aka to make her back into a comic relief instead of a drama device to maybe like her again.

Being simply stuck up doesn't warrant it. But being stuck up and forcing your worldview on everyone around you actually does.

They're just bad people who didn't like when good people tried to stop them.

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I don't think Miko deserves Ishigami to be honest, she's been too much of a bitch lately.
Also Ishigami likes Tsubame, and I don't think Aka is that big of a hack to change that anytime soon.

When you annoy the shit out of everyone around you what do you think is going to happen?
Either they completely ignore you or they retaliate.

Holy shit you're right. That's amazing.

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>after
>not during

That only gets me harder

It doesn't matter who Ishigami deserves. Once Miko finds out he gave her the flower, she's going to force him to take responsibility.

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Leave Ishigami to me.

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Miko is scary, she knows the laws too.

Miko is the law.

for me it's ichika and onodera

Fuck off.

I never really get to the point of hating characters for their intended flaws unless the manga itself treats them like they aren't a problem, but that's getting into legitimate mary sue territory so eh.

In most cases stuff like Miko's fuckup in 156 is there for the sake of development so I don't really get upset at them for it.

>go to the about page
>Indexed the entire main series (searchable by text) using Microsoft's OCR and text recognition tool.

who eats more, itsuki or Miko?

I blame otterfags. For everything.

Still dont get this meme

enjoy getting cucked by a bowl of processed wheat flour

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>being cucked by something that you can eat and turn into semen

Yeah, I’m playing Three Houses (which has a similar feel) and as I was reading this comment all the characters were saying “You’re so great professor!” “You helped me so much!” “We never could have done it without you!” and I realized, Ah, so that’s the appeal. And it’s twice as appealing for me personally since I wasn’t the best or most well liked graduate assistant-instructor...really, Ratemyprofessor is a cruel place, almost as cruel as a middle school...

>I never really get to the point of hating characters for their intended flaws unless the manga itself treats them like they aren't a problem
then you're smarter than most manga readers

But i dont like hags
Makoto was too much of a best girl to not choose her anyway

>implying she still wants your seed

Arent you people mixing things? if you hate a character it doesnt mean is a bad one

I know, I just mean I don't feel strong negativity for a character without it being a flaw in how the story is presenting their issues.

Lots of manga readers tend to equate their dislike of a character to bad writing so I get what that other user means.

ishitgami a shit

Hate is too big a word but it conveyed my point.
Bad characters don't make me feel anything. Hating one means they at least have some depth or personality and are good characters.

There's literally nothing wrong with moralfags, unless the story goes out of its way to prove them right. Miko has suffered because of it, and even she admits that she has to learn to tone it down.
You don't like them just out of some personal bias, probably you got your phone confiscated in middle school or something and you're still seething.

A dash of netorare would really spice up this manga. Anyone else agree?

Tsubame character analysis time.
>First relationship ended poorly and her BF cheated on her with her friend, which is likely why she's scared of relationships.
>Tsubame was planning to reject Ishigami at the start, and only changed her mind after seeing him protect Miko.
>She invited Miko to the same party as Ishigami, and "jokes" about how he's always thinking about her.
>Tries to sex him way before the 3 month deadline, while still unwilling to actually date him.
Well, this isn't a pretty picture. What it adds up to is that Tsubame has a trauma regarding boys being stolen away from her, and her interest in Ishigami is in part fueled by her fear that Miko's going to snatch him away. She doesn't want it to happen again, even if she's not sure she even wants to date him.

Teach better then, people appreciate that.

It also doesn't help that Ishigami still refuses to see that Tsubame is also at fault for what happened in Christmas. He thinks all will be solved if he just puts enough effort, while shit goes deeper than that.

Or narrowing things down, Tsubame's feelings probably amount to,
>Fear of relationships.
>Fear of NTR.
>Fear of hurting Ishigami's feelings.
>Genuinely impressed by Ishigami's attitude.
Those are her complexities.
"Also at fault"? Tsubame is the one primarily at fault. So you're entirely right. Ishigami sounds cool and all when he says he's going get Tsubame to love him, but he's got zero understanding of the underlying issues and the kind of place her attitude is coming from.

Well, you could hate a character if the character is written to be hated. That's not the case with this manga though

Why did this bitch give Miko such shitty advice?

Yeah but Ishigami is also kinda at fault for not really knowing anything about her despite claiming to like her. Compare Ishigami who wanted to confess despite barely knowing the woman and not being close enough to her to interrupt her while she's with others, to Kaguya who in the day she planned to confess, she was able to make an accurate guess of Shirogane's whereabouts based on how much she knew him by then.
Tsubame is a wreck, but Ishigami has been lazy as fuck. Nevermind her previous boyfriend, he doesn't know who her friends are, didn't know about her language quirk, or even what she likes. Dude was going to send her a gift catalog for fuck's sake.

>Dude was going to send her a gift catalog for fuck's sake.
Well shit, you're right. Ishigami has been known to supposedly be a surprisingly observant and considerate guy, but a gift catalogue practically screams that he doesn't know shit about her. Not only that, but he's not even shown much intent to get to know her better either. Not that he hasn't put any effort into impressing her, mind you, as he did some research to look cool at the planning committee and learn slang, but all that's all focused on himself and how he comes across.

On his current trajectory, Ishigami is probably going to improve his grades, clean up a lot of his act, and generally become a pretty cool dude, but the observation skills that used to be his thing are falling on the wayside.

To steal Ishigami from her
Hopefully she will suceed

Friendly reminder that Snape's entire life was ruined because he couldn't get over his first crush.

Onoderafag, do you seriously think someone as normally adjusted like her is single? Any day now Onodera will just say out of the blue that she has a boyfriend, not the even the first time a side-character in the series has pulled a stunt like this.

You can't prove it, so she is pure

His life got ruined because he chose to be an edgy kid over cute childhood friend he actually had a good chance with.

>all along people have been harping on Miko not to get raped
>turns out she already had a stalker

Rei~just according to Keikaku~ Onodera

>Maybe they deserve to be judged, but what do you gain from it?
There's something to be said about being honest with one's feelings- if only internally.

Osaragi vs Onodrea in chadness batle when?

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Yeah. Even in the pre-election chapters, she was insulting Kaguya and Ishigami just for trying to talk to her.

Fair enough.

Need version of Osaragi vs Onodera pci related

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>she understands ishigami quite well
>and also understands Miko
Onodera is a serious thing
spin-off when

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Ishigami had never given her any reason before not to think he wasn't about to break the rules.
Miko suspected Kaguya was playing dirty without proof, but the thing is, she wasn't wrong. Who knows how many times Kaguya has done shit that goes against the rules and then use either her authority as a Shinomiya, money or Hayasaka to cover her tracks? The discipline committee already has Hayasaka on a watchlist. Who's to say Kaguya isn't there as well?

Miko is a Pottterfag
Just literal trash

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So Onodera wants be a psychologist?

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wow, what a cancerous mess of a place this is

>So all you have to do is just enter your name before you start to read it, and you can be the heroine in the story…and have fun with your favorite character.
So, like, eroges from the 90s?

Shouldn't it be Osaragi vs. Kashiwagi: Battle of the Chad Stacies?

Anyone knows of there are any way to rip the coloured pages from the full colored Kaguya in the YanJump app?

I paid for some chapter but it doesn't allowed screenshot on mobile.

I miss when you could do that. I blame FSN for making eroge authors believe their MCs deserved a character of their own.

>Ishigami will be a fat ugly bastard
MIKO NO!!!

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She just a 4dChess player

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Miko deserves it

The problem is that a lot of people here unironically self insert into Ishigami, so they get personally invested in everything that involves him and feel jilted whenever something or someone pisses him off, which ends up being Miko a lot of the time

Kashiwagi is hots only for 1 boy
Osaragi uses and dump.

El hermano de Ishigami?
Also ishi is just his mom face

Doesn't that just make him more perfect?

>All the NTR lewds of her
I still don't get why

OR people can simply hate on a character when she is being a fucking bitch.

Stop projecting so hard.
People won't shit on her when she behalf normally like in this chapter.

Her type is anyone who looks like a Sengoku general

So like your average waifu war?

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When do we see Fujiwara coming out as lesbian?

When she finds out that despite her best efforts, Kaguya is now dating Shirogane and not her.

Other way around, those girls are too good for him.
I deserve Miko.

>when she is being a fucking bitch.
To who? You?

Based

But I just want to see her get rejected by Ishigami and date raped by faceless men.

Papa Shirogane has the best genes. No hair loss despite severe stress and long unemployment.

To Ishigami, you fucking waifufag.

>inb4 n-no Ishigami doesn't care you only care because you self-insert blahblahblah
Fuck off.
People likes Ishigami, they are entitled to call out her bullshit.

>N-no! You aren't allowed to criticize or shit on MY waifu!
It is clear that you are the one who is self-inserting here

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She'll die giving birth to Ishigami's kid anyway, so why are you so upset?

oh no, he broke the rules of a HIGH SCHOOL, he's living trash

No, but it gives her a reason to be hostile to him. She got used to expect nothing good from him, plus she's the one who has to clean his mess. Back then Ishigami didn't care if he got expelled.
And she was right in the end. Shirogane immediately picked a fight with her the second she mentioned she was the top student of her year. Ishigami just interrupted her for an useless discussion.

>People likes Ishigami, they are entitled to call out her bullshit.
is that part of your fanfic, user?

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I don't exactly agree with the conclusion is getting at since it absolves her of her own shitty behavior but it is true that until recently all she expected from him was being a being a lazy disrespectful delinquent and in truth until the sports festival he wasn't exactly proving otherwise. It's a case of their shitty misunderstanding of who hates who that's complicating their relationship where they would be great friends otherwise but that's the point, relationships, even a non romantic one can't work without honesty.

That's just me but I see that as taking what's going on too personally, what you say is true but even with the other user defending her, I don't see a reason to get heated about it in either direction.

People shit on Iceguya and Miko when they are being a bitch. People shit on Tsubame when she is being a slut.
Simple as that.
I am just sick of those waifufag white-knight trying to pin every "Mikohaters" as self-inserter

If you can't deal with different opinion perhaps r*ddit is more to your liking.

I love this dork

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Probably doesn't have a very good relationship with his brother considering nobody ever took his side until Prez stepped up.

We talk about Kashiwagi versus Onodera versus Osaragi, but /tg/ dictator is a contender for chaddest character.

What a naughty gyaru

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>People shit on Tsubame when she is being a slut.
never?

Why is it that both of the times Ishigami's dad was mentioned in the manga, he was punching Ishigami? He seems rather violent.

What if Tsubame never truly got over her ex, and was using Ishigami as a sort of comfort?
Would that actually make her a thot?

Post Chika without that silly bow.

Post otters. Or Kagunyas. Or Chika without that silly bow.

She didn't ask for him to pursue her.

how about a gigachad Osagari vs the sad slutbame?

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I mean I don't really care what anyone does as long as there's still some conversation about it instead of mindless bashing, don't so much have a problem with different opinions as much as how dramatic some anons are about it. The latter gets us to where the threads have been for the past few weeks.

Not this week though for some reason, there's been a weird lull in the shitposting.

To be fair, Miko haters have been a thing way before Tsubame was introduced.
I honestly don't understand. Both Ishigami and Miko treat each other rudely, yet only Miko gets the bitching. It's not like Ishigami is being the bigger man here.

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Why is Iceguya so perfect?

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To be fair, Miko is a garbage character and her entire existence revolves around Ishigami.
Then you realized she's barely had any development despite being introduced like 90 chapters ago.

>Both Ishigami and Miko treat each other rudely, yet only Miko gets the bitching
Ishigami only acts this way with Miko. Miko acts this way with almost everyone.

>Ishigami and Miko treat each other rudely
It totally isn't.
One instance where they emphasis their difference is Ishigami was able to name some good points about Miko,
while Miko struggled to come up with even one good thing to say about him.

Not to mention all the time where she being the one who started the fight.

>Two threads

No.. Stop.. Stop the fucking party

Blame the lazy anons that didnt wanted to dump the chapter here

>People shit on Tsubame when she is being a slut.
Incels aren't people

the cutest

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Could Iceguya handle Stargazing Prez?

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This isn't a mikohaters vs mikofags thing, this is a argue about a characters flaws without getting dramatic or shitposty about it thing. Its hardly limited to these conversations about Miko desu, this is a thing that every manga community has a problem with.

Anyway we're losing the purpose of this debate, all I was saying was I personally don't get upset at a character being annoying or unlikable if the point is those to be flaws that they are meant to grow from, it becomes bad when the manga treats those flaws like something cute and endearing. I don't defend the way they act but I don't really "hate" them like some people do, that's all, maybe it's a detached way of looking at it but I like to think I just have patience to tolerate it.

>Ice is cold enough to pull Shirogane away from his high
>Shirogane is bold enough to the point where anything he says makes Kaguya wet.

This isn't a battle I think anyone can win.

Who ever cums last wins.

That's the kind of war I'd like seeing between these retards

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That is the most powerful character you can be though.

No one can beat el observador de estrellas.

This isn't the first time they did that though. Based Koreans though. I'm surprised Aka didn't write this.

Ishigami's problem is that his more "normal" romance manga shit brings in the wrong people.

Yeah. >They're both flawed!
is cool, but it's not the same as >They're equally bad!

maybe if she wasn't a dumbfuck who initiated a battle when she already felt intimdated

It could be the gooks just being lazy with the tl

>implying he won't be NTRed by his fat ugly bastard dad
I've seen this too much

That's a very weak argument considering Fujiwara exists.

>Miko struggled to come up with even one good thing to say about him.
Put yourself in her shoes for five seconds. What should she have said? What positive qualities he showed her before the last day of the school festival?

He's been on the Council for months, working under -Kaguya-, and he hasn't been kicked out. That says something about how much he takes his duties there seriously.

>second time i see this page
>mfw I just realize what that means
I'm idiot

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He was a disiciplining a son he thought started fighting a dude for petty reasons, and later after his son more or less was partially responsible for breaking a girls' arm, that's called being a parent, not a failure who lets their children go around unpunished.

Feel like you're both putting more thought into it than you need to. She has a bad opinion for some valid(from her perspective) and invalid reasons and when put on the spot she immediately starting lashing out. It's a bitchy thing to do because until now she hasn't wanted to reconcile. There's no reason to defend her, she wants to do good but can't help but letting her immaturity fuck things up. Those are her character flaws.

I have to agree user.

I don't get it
What is that

Iceguya is Kaguya putting up a cold front, whilst being considerably more vulnerable than usual.
Moon Shirogane would make her go to a different level of crazy.

Most people have liked Fujiwara since her introduction -- same goes for the rest of the main cast. You can't say the same for Miko.

It's the Swallow's Cowrie Shell(Tsubame).

Miko is objectively more of a flawed character than Fujiwara has ever been though, don't think that comparison the other user made works to begin with.

People turning on Kaguya when she went Ice is more fitting, unlikable characters are always contentious regardless of whether it's intentional or has some kind of purpose.

Hah, good point. I hope Miko gets some need development this arc because it seems to be going in that direction.

Yes. She is Kaguya's pride, but she is also her raw instincts, stripped of any shame or need to conform to ideals of chastity.
Everything Kaguya hasn't done because she was scared or kind or unambitious, Iceguya has done. She wants to -win-.

Well yeah obviously, like I don't see this stuff happening as bad even if she is being unlikable because whether it's good or not, that is development, this wouldn't be going on otherwise.

I wonder where his skills in reading people like open books are gone
Cause i am afraid they went to Plothole County

Ishigami is characterized as being good at observing people but when it comes it things that involve him, he's as clueless as anyone else in the manga.

I'd think that would be the case for lots of people.

>Have we started the fire?
>Yes, Lino, the fire rises

Miko is flawed character in good way. Manga don't try justify her flaws, but using for comedic/drama way. Actually, character wise she is one of best in manga.

she's a cunt

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f was always the best character in the manga
you can't prove me wrong

Can this little bird destroy well written Miko's romance fairy tale?

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no
because she's lying about everything

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>"well written" fairy tale
Romance doesn't really work like fairy tale.
That's the point Aka tried to make when he gave Tsubame many 3DPG flaws in the last few chapters, despite her imperfectioness Ishigami still choose her at the end.

Tsubame is basically a seinen manga while Miko is a shoujo manga.
Kaguya is a seinen manga.

What would Tsubame be like if she were josei manga?

>Ice
You know, I bet people would have had a much more positive view of Ice and Miko if Aka gave them "labels" like he gave to Miyuki. You know, the Monster Virgin. It encapsulates the traits up, makes them funny, and sort of defuses the issue that the person in question is being an unbearable teenager.

>multiple ex
>experienced
>stds

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Narrator-kun's been quiet for a while. We used to get a lot of narration about what characters were thinking, especially Shirogane and Kaguya, but not so much recently. I think it's supposed to be a kind of "test" - the narrator told us what was going on inside Shirogane and Kaguya's heads, so we got clear examples of how and why people thought as they did, but has been backing off with Ishigami and Miko so that we're forced to figure things out ourselves. Like, case in point is probably the whole "Tsubame had an ex" thing. Aka gave us a quiz: why is Tsubame acting so weird about the whole confession thing, wanting to have sex but not to have a relationship? Answer: she's really hung up about a relationship for some reason we don't know. The reader should have been able to draw that conclusion immediately, and then Aka puts a follow-up note later so that we can all get on the same page and mark ourselves as right or wrong. It's kind of like the "check your answers" sections of ib - Aka likes that shit.

Maybe she show's up in the Media Club spinoff to do the Ishigami and Miko chapters.

I M A G I N E

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We've also never gotten anything from Miko's perspective or any of her internal monologue.

'ate lino
'ate tsubummer
'ate maki
'ate oslutragi
'ate F
'ate the taig cunt
'ate 'arems

luv me 'dera

simple as

Ohoho.

Well, that's a thing. Is there a larger version of that page anywhere?
Here's the thing. Is it really? Go compare the Ishigami that Miko is seeing to the one that Tsubame sees, and there's some pretty strong contrast. And let me just say, the one Miko sees is a lot fucking lamer.

From Tsubame's perspective, Ishigami is an incredibly bold dude who delivered a dramatic and earnest public confession, was surprisingly chill about it and gave her three months time to come to a decision, and generally looks confident smooth as fuck. Sure, there was a little roadblock where he hurried out after being rejected, but she didn't see him cry. She just saw him after he bounced back, and acted like a supreme gentleman about it. And as Onodera displayed, these normies consider their social lives to be public knowledge. It's shit that everyone knows. Oh, and she's also seen him be fairly considerate to and protective of that one midget, which only makes him look like a better person. She's only really seen him put in his best effort at the Sports Festival.

In contrast, Miko's seen him as a lazy piece of shit who squanders what opportunities he has. A condescending prick with a few redeeming qualities, but not ones she thinks of from the top of her head. It's only lately that her perspective has been changing, that she can recognize him as a person who is kind to most people. She's seen him bitch, moan, and cry, before tripping down the stairs because a drunk girl called him names. And he's still been really rude to her lately, even though she tried to bury the hatchet between them. He's only has a few cool moments that Miko has taken note of. Being considerate enough to give her pictures of the festival, and delivering a corny line on the staircase.

Miko might have a hyperactive imagination, but she's not the one likely to have an overly idealized Prince-like impression of Ishigami.

>Lino is a massive bitch
>Tsubame is a lying slut
There's just no winning for our guy.

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He could just throw out a corny line off the top of his head and Miko would turn to jello. It's not like she's hard to counter.

Ending alone is always an option
Not the best one but certainly better than what he has right now

You never actually read a shojo didn't you?
>he is a jerk!
>oh no he is actually my prince on a white horse!
Is some basic 101 shojo cliche

>our guy.

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>she ends being a loyal girlfriend/wife
> the serial cheater being loyal

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Yeah, but he's not into victories that mean he sacrifices muh morals.

> HE CAN'T RAPE!

I wonder why nobody has done this edit yet.

That's because Aka is dead and now this manga is drawn by some ugly fat loser who miserably fails to imitate his style.
This explains why this manga changed its tone and narration, stopped being funny, devolved into teen melodrama, switched its focus on dozen of shitty characters literally no one cares about, and even Kaguya had her personality changed through some bullshit reasoning.

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This is absolutely disgusting.
Seems like whoever did this has no idea about their personalities.

stuff like this will make Iino not getting together with Ishigami in the actual story all the more hilarious to see

> Clearly the most reasonable remedy is to bully her

It's about her being anal about rules, thus they retaliate in kind.

People, but especially children, can be cruel as fuck. They don't know her family background, and neither do they care about it.
Do you take pity on an user that spergs out, despite not knowing his background? No, you don't, you will call him a faggot.

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Cute

I mean there is a difference between mean words on Yea Forums and irl bullying, I wouldn't so much say she deserved it(no one does) but that is indeed the reaction she was gonna cause on her crusade no matter what.

That's kinda what I'm expecting out of this whole fiasco. Whatever happens, the meltdown from both sides would be great, but it would be especially interesting to see how people that are dedicated enough to make doujins out of it react.

Someone's bound to be assmad about it either way, would be funny if it went that way for the reaction from the artists even if I think the miko end is beyond obvious at this point. Though I'm sure the people smugly waiting for mikofags to have a meltdown will also be the same people that'll start sperging if it goes the other way.

Lesson from all this is that both sides being so heavily invested in the other side losing more than whatever happens in the manga itself is retarded. Shipping rots your brain kids.

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This is the face of a winner, say something nice to her.

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It is pure,same cannot be said about slutbame.

Cute!

Feels a tad OOC.

>even if I think the miko end is beyond obvious at this point.
why?

>Tsubame will never get stuff like this
Shipping fanart is almost always ooc since most of the time the characters aren't canonically dating. This is pretty in character though

Well? Where's the next page where they fuck?

I am already assmad. I hate Iino, I hate Tsubame. And I am actually starting to dislike Ishigami because he slowly turns into generic VN protag character.
The only way for me to be glad with the resolution if all 3 of them get hit by a truck and isekai'd into Goblin Slayer world to be raped by goblins.

Take this L, loser.

It has barely been 4 chapters, with a break inbetween. As fucking everything else in this manga, it has been properly telegraphed. Tsubame not wanting to engage in a relationship, Miko being dumb and needy, and Ishigami crashing and burning.
You don't hate the manga, you hate the threads, and their shitposting is already seeping into your brain.

Not him but for me it's the fact that their characters are practically made for each other since they both contrast and complement one another so well. They mirror first year Kaguya and Prez. Both have an immature yet selfless sense of justice. Both are ostracized by their peers. She longs for a prince on a white horse while he loves being a whiteknight. She's uptight, studious and resolute. He's laid-back, lazy and meek(though that's changing). The photoshoot page clearly sets up their future character development and that they'll help each other grow out of these. Their talk in the hallway right before Tsubame invited them especially cements this. Nothing against Tsubame but those two together just don't have the same narrative weight

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Anything will feel OoC when they aren't even close to being together at the moment, Prez and Kaguya never had that problem cause they've been on the brink of confessing to each other since chapter 1.

Just the way I think the story is going, the past few chapters identified a problem with her behavior and why she can't love so the route from here is to go into that and have her progress from her shitty mentality that stops them from getting along. This arc feels major for her more than anyone so she can get through her flaws and find the right way to love without hurting people, you can disagree and hell I could be wrong but that's the direction I see it going in, I'm not really a mikofag but I don't see anything permanent coming out of the Tsubame situation.

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>despite severe stress

Papagane doesn't seem very stressed out. He gives off the vibe of not giving a fuck anymore.

From what chapter is that the extra?

What exactly would happen?

It doesn't matter at all since the one Ishigami has eyes on is Tsubame.
>made for each other ....
They can end up becoming great friends that support each other I guess.

I honestly not sure why you are so sure after the blatant loser flag in last chapter.
Miko's arc is more about her maturing which doesn't necessary require her to end up with Ishigami in order to conclude her arc.
While Tsubame's arc needs her to let go of her past and insecurity to accept Ishigami's earnest feeling.
Having her get NTR'd again would be horrible and doesn't give resolution to her arc.
It will also made Ishigami an absolute asshole.

Miko shippers tend to see Tsubame as nothing more than an obstacle to their ship who will just get magically written off at some point;
Which would be true before the party chapter but now Aka obviously want her to be more than that.
This chapter also hints a potential arc with Tsubame's past which could lead to some heavy drama shit.

What you see as loser flags I see as the low point before redemption and inevitable rewards for that turnaround(not them being together but reconciling and being friends), I see the most likely option with Tsubame is her self reflecting and being upfront with him while actually giving him a good reason why she can't/doesnt want to go out instead of leading him on like this. Either way I don't imagine Miko will be any sort of contender until well after the third years graduate so idk about calling it an ntr situation.

Anyway that's just how I see it, Like I said it's not an issue of what I particularly want to happen in either direction(already said I'm not a shipper) I just expect it to go with the Miko end. I know some people find the idea of Tsubame not winning bad but it all depends on how it's executed for me.

>an actual example of forced drama
Kanokari and Domekano are full of it.

only the annoying bitch ishitgami deserves to be isekai'd and be raped by goblins
Tsubame is a poor idiot and Miko is just a little like Jun (from TWO GK). Both are good girls

>Kanokari
Absolutely lost as to why anyone would go into this without expecting forced drama. As if the premise isn't bad enough already.

>genius
>likes potter
Jesus, pick one!

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I want Miko to find out about the flower thing, confess to Ishigami and Ishigami to accept it.
Both secretly care a lot about each other and are the secret saviour of the other one
Miko apologizing for Ishigami not writing an apology letter
Ishigami looking out for Mikos safety

While Tsubame is happy elsewhere because of something else.

This is why I dont understand why people want Ishigami to get together with her.
Ishigami was just enchanted by her kindness but doesnt know anything about her, not even about her former boyfriend who cheated on her.

Not only that, Tsubame is in a similiar situation, has relationship trust issues and would suffer from a relationship with Ishigami.

Curious to find out how the author's gonna solve this pickle.

This got me wondering how this entire thing would end for Ishigami without him looking like an asshole. If he rejects Tsubame for Lino, that would mean that Tsubame got NTRd once again, only this time by the two most hated individuals on the entire school. The normalfags would be up in arms against him, which would mean that Kaguya would be in full damage control mode, which means that a love embargo would be imposed, and that shit ain't cool.
If he rejects Nino for Tsubame, there is going to be so much negative energy around the Council, which means that once again, a love embargo would be imposed. It would also tank his approval rating from Onodera and Osaragi, and potentially Prez and Kaguya too.
How could he get a positive outcome out of this whole fiasco?

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>all this harry potter discussion
Miko likes harry potter was a mistake

Come back in 4 fours user, I doubt the flower will come into play anytime soon. Also chill with the shipperfaggotry, we're almost to the end of the thread without ruining the discussion.

I thought it was trashy but still readable until more girls showed up to start the harem, I can deal with drama but adding harem antics to the mix was the cutoff point for me.

She's not even a bone fide Potterfag; she follows onto trends and other stuff (now she'll probably self-insert into Okaa-san Online as Wise though)

Pretty sure Ishigami's got most of his looks from his mother.

Hes kind of fit and has a more vertical face with a slightly sharp chin like his mother. For him to become an fat ugly bastard he'd need to stuff himself with food everyday.

Simple, reject the both of them and go for Prez.

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Why doesn't she let Ishigami read Middle Jump with Prez then? Has Ishigami even brought in WSJ?

>now thaf Prez and Kaguya have paired up and Ishigami got his own love triangle well never get bro moments like this anymore

Pretty sad.

Ngl Miko fangirling over people that just happen to resemble Ishigami which you would only know if you look them up, is one of the funnier running gags in the manga. That initial thread where people connected the dots about Snape had me dying.

>How could he get a positive outcome out of this whole fiasco?
dates Tsubame leaves the council thanking prez and Kaguya for the support they've given him but he wants to spend time with Tsubame
max bittersweet

>Lino becomes wet at the first cheesy line Ishi could come up with and is kind of a tsundere if they became a couple
>Tsubame isnt romantically attracted to Ishi but will have sex with him (Ishi wants romantic love) and lies about stuff and constantly tries to distance herself from Ishi. Tries to reject him

Use the full res please.
I mean, sure. It probably fits with her shoujo bullshit, yes. Miko's still got the more accurate/less idealized perspective here.
It'd be win/win.
I think it's safe to say that Ishigami likes the Tsubame he's seen, but that's an incredibly small part of who she is. Likewise, the Ishigami that Tsubame has seen is a pretty princely dude, but that's not all there is to him either and some of it was pure accident. They're both starting off with a much too positive and shallow impression of one another.

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Bros... I just wanna see Miko happy. I feel like Ishi is the only way.

We can only hope Aka will do the right thing and btfo Miko, because that's what she deserves.

>I feel like Ishi is the only way
Abe could be her prince too.

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>While Tsubame's arc needs her to let go of her past and insecurity to accept Ishigami's earnest feeling.
>Having her get NTR'd again would be horrible and doesn't give resolution to her arc.
You're missing another point here, one which flips everything upside-down. When did Tsubame change her mind from rejecting Ishigami to giving him a chance? Why did she suddenly try to fuck Ishigami, despite the 3 month deadline?

If I really need to answer for you, there's one common point behind both attitude shifts. Miko. Tsubame had no interest in dating Ishigami before seeing him interact with Miko, and has been very clearly focused on their interactions. What if those insecurities that she needs to get over aren't just fueling her aversion to dating Ishigami, but also her interest in dating him? What if she wants Ishigami in part because she feels NTR'd when he interacts with Miko, and dislikes the idea of a guy being 'stolen' from her whether she wants him or not?

So she has gone yandere like Kashiwagi and Kaguya then?

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Kaguya and Prez want him to get together with Tsubame because that's what Ishigami wants.
And even Miko knows that he likes senpai, but instead prefers to act like a homewrecker.
If there's any justice left in this world, Miko will lose.

>No more bro moments

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Prez really is his only male friend. Even if he and Miko start dating, he’ll only have her, Maki, and frenemy Fujiwara, all of them girls. I mean Maki is a bro but she’s no prez.

Nah that seems too out there, don't think it gets anymore complicated than she saw a different side to him through his interactions with Miko and decided it wasn't fair to turn him down without giving him a chance, problem is she's being wishy washy about it, she likes him enough to not reject him outright but has too many hangups to commit to another relationship, and that has to be on her to either fix, or be honest about why she can't date right now so she stops leading him on.

You're projecting a bit user. Miko is in the wrong here yes but "homewrecker" is a bit dramatic.

I kind of don’t buy that if these two were in a relationship, Ishigami would leave any manga with any sort of sexual content more extreme than you’d find in their own magazine in a place where she could get it. And if she did like Onodera and found them in his hidey-hole he would claim they belonged to a friend who left them over by accident (the friend would be the prez who he would not hesitate to throw under the bus).

Why is Ishigami such a traitor?

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She warmed up because he saw Ishigami chivalrously defending Miko, and because Kaguya told her to give it a chance. She very clearly differentiated him from the average confessor by the very fact of seeking out advice in the first place.

Maybe not yandere, but it's become clear that Tsubame is rather insecure and potentially very possessive due to her past. In short, she's averse to getting cucked and thinks Miko might cuck her if she doesn't claim Ishigami first. Her interest in Ishigami isn't necessarily coming from a good place, and may in fact be a reaction to her initial trauma.
>she saw a different side to him through his interactions with Miko
Pay attention to Tsubame at the Christmas Party, right before the almost fuckening. What does she talk about? What does she joke about? She talks about how Ishigami thinks of Miko and how kind he is to her. She jokingly warns him not to make a pass at her when escorting her home. Then she lies to his face and maneuvers him into fucking position. With her relationship history revealed, Tsubame getting jealous of Miko seems pretty likely.

He probably wouldn't care any more than he does now desu, with how much of a degenerate she is she'd probably read them when no one is watching.

It’s kind of weird that manga is apparently not beyond the pale but anime is.

>She warmed up because he saw Ishigami chivalrously defending Miko
How much did you know about Tsubame when you first got that impression? Yes, Ishigami was clearly different from the average confessor, but it's also very clear that Tsubame is paying a lot of attention to how he interacts with Miko. And was clearly doing so on the very same night she rushed forward into sex. Do you really think Miko didn't factor into any of that?

Do you really think a girl whose been cheated on might not develop a certain paranoia and jealousy?

She talks about that because his care nature towards Miko(someone he has a complicated relationship with) is what caught her attention. I'm not denying in that specific situation that she might have been jealous but I need to see more to buy that she's intimidated by her in a meaningful way.

>but I need to see more to buy that she's intimidated by her in a meaningful way.
She got cheated on. That's the root of her relationship issues. Is that not the "more" to see that heavily leans things in that direction?

What would she do if Iino did steal Ishigami from her then?

Miko is currently entitled to her childish fantasies which she is projecting on Ishigami at the moment.
Remember how she always is on a danger situation regardless of who is around.
Now Ishigamibro is taking care of her because of his carelessness but what will she do once her arm is healed?
Will she keep lying she needs babysitting?
Will she allow Ishigami to go back to hunti Tsubame?
The answer is obvious and I think that's what her friend was thinking about.

Suicide or mind break.

I will buy all Aka's works merchandise if he pulls this off and post proof here on Yea Forums I have nothing to lose anyway.

This is the real loss here. Thots ruin everything

I was under the impression he only peruses the more ecchi stuff when only the Prez is in the StuCo room and she just confiscates everything on sight. I could be wrong though.

But even if that was the status quo it would definitely change if they started dating. Can you imagine him allowing Tsubame to know he owned such a thing if they were dating? And remember how terrified he was when Onodera took his self-insert Isekai LN?

I mean, it’s a cute comic, but just like those Kyon x Haruhi as adults comics, it requires the subjects to be out of character to make it cuter.

Honestly I doubt Aka had even come up with this plot thread back then. I wouldn’t be surprised if he came up with it in the last two weeks when he saw the Elevens turning on Tsubame.

Steal? She turned him down. If Miko mounted a full frontal assault with weaponized and all her latent dere energy and had Ishigami in love with her within the first week after break,Tsubame would have no right to complain.

Depends on how it happened. It'd feel pretty shitty if she started fucking Ishi on Tsubame's desk, but that's probably not how it'd turn out.

Miko doesn't have the social skills or inherent charm to just reach out and take Ishigami. Miko's very clearly very cute and capable of getting Ishigami's attention for a moment, as was shown at the party, but I think she'd have to really go for it to even convince Ishigami that she was an option. Because we need to remember, Ishigami already dismissed her as an unrealistic romantic option because she hates him. She'd have to make an extremely clear confession for Ishigami to catch on.

At that point, Miko would be so shockingly obvious that Tsubame couldn't ignore her, and it's -their- interactions that might decide how things turn out.

We were warned though. It was weird for her to be single, and like we said even back them, the whole distance from university and other small stuff sounded like excuses.
Not to mention her first reaction was trying to reject him, not the curiosity she showed later. Tsubame has been against being in a relationship from the beginning, which is weird considering how sociable she was.

If Chika wins Ishibowl or Maki
I'll send the man a bottle of spice vodka

>If Miko mounted a full frontal assault with weaponized and all her latent dere energy
This is what she's gonna have to do if she wants Ishigami to realize that she doesn't hate him, now that he's gone full dense. Hasn't Aka said that he made Miko to be extremely embarrassing and cringe, as the inspiration that he took from the First Prince, or is that just hearsay I picked up?

I'm looking forward to Miko's legendary mess of a confession, where she'll push way too hard, say way too much, and scare Ishigami away.

Nah, she's probably going to be brainwashed by either Kaguya or Shirogane into thinking that going for a full force confession is going to end up badly for her.
She'll probably try to change his opinion of her first.

Sure, but I think she's going to have to go full force in the end. Ishigami isn't going to sweep her off her feet, so she's going to have to take the broom here.

As long as Tsubame keeps keeping it to herself, Miko has all the time in the world. Ishigami is trying to appeal to her the wrong way.

Miko has three months.

It's funny because in the west it's sort of the opposite
Casuals and normalfags with low attention span watch anime while people more into this kind of media read manga