Fate Grand Order Babylonia ep 0

>bombed Chaldea (Animusphere workshop)
>bombed Olgamarie (Alien God Priestess)
>bombed A-Team (Crypters)
>bombed 2016 (the political normalfag invasion of Yea Forums)
Is there anything that our boy Flauros can't bomb to save humanity?

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He obviously failed bombing the Gudas

He couldn't bomb Marisbilly, thus he couldn't stop his plan. It seems like Lev also didn't know that A-Team were supposed to be LB rulers/Crypters since the very beginning too.

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Gudako got bombed with the rest of the disposable scrubs.

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>they still translate Sheba as Shiva
How fucking retarded can funi be? Did they have like no contact with the official TL of the game? That misstranslation is kinda severe in general since you lose a hint for solving the mystery for yourself.

>since you lose a hint for solving the mystery for yourself.
Is it supposed to hint at Solomon's role in all this? Doesn't make much sense to me, Lev never knowingly had contact with Solomon.

w-why is Daybit visiting Moneybills at night so regularly that Moneybills comments he's five minutes late this time?

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Flauros was in his subconscious from the day of his birth.

Female masters btfo then, I guess.

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>Marisbilly has Romani/Solomon
>Daybit has Pepe and maybe Marisbilly too
Poor Kirsch

Can someone give me the run down on the FGO localization?

I guess you could say...he's the bomb

>hue hue

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>creepiest motherfucker ever
>"your hired" t.Animusphere
I get that all wizards in Fate are autistic weirdos but come the fuck on.

Superior version

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Here's an example

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It's okay. A bit inconsistent in quality early on because they split it to multiple outsourced translators, some of whom were decent but at least one of whom was probably a southeast asian ESL, but since then they've generally cleaned up although typos can show up every now and again. Somewhat troublingly they admitted that they massaged the script of the very rapey chapter Agartha a bit (no direct mentions of cumming inside Amazon wombs while being raped for example, but the script still says that the slaves are being forced to impregnate amazons with no choice so really it's saying the same thing just without rapey words) because they were scared of offending some people. But otherwise it's fine and understandable and they get terminologies correct (except that they fucked up the latin spelling of one of BB's skills I think)

tl;dr it's okay

>5 freaking Fate threads
I need more

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Just wait for 2 more months

>Granbelm is a Fate thread

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>set in a world where magic is on the decline and magus families are off competing in a battle royale as part of a wish granting ritual where one of the main wish was to restore magic from a lost, ancient era
Sounds pretty Fate to me.

They really, desperately need someone to do editing/QCs.

Shimosa anime by Ufotable fucking when?

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Isn't ufotable in purgatory now because of the tax evasion thing?

>still doing Kimetsu and Heavens Feel

This is why you should stop getting your news only from Yea Forums and actually do your own readings and follow ups.

>bombed olgamarie (alien God priestess)
Wha?

Brainlet here. How can he bomb an A-team? I thought they are talented magus.

So? They're still fleshy human beings and nobody expected to get attacked right in their own damn base.

What? How can you get that it was him from those frames?

Romani King of the Eggplants and Gudao.

Nah she is just chilling with the fujobait servants

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>Poor Kirsch
Woody can't compare to Daybit.

I gotta say that I love the scene where Moneysbill mentions he won. All the city is burning and Solomon is using a robe waiting for his master to make a wish.
His appearance looks similar to the one of the Grand Berserker.

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That episode has nothing to do with Babylonia chapter. Again, they wasted time on boring Chaldea staff flashback and Mash. It was nice to see Marisbilly at last, but still it looked more like preview to Solomon arc than Babylon. Also it all went to shit when Guda showed up, he looked so fucking unnecessary, like a blatant self-insert from isekaishit.

>when Guda showed up
It's not like he did a lot. He just shows up and is the transition to the first OVA of FGO.

the boots and the shadow from the 2nd pic and the cuff(?) in the 1st pic. of course this is still a speculation anyway.

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>That episode has nothing to do with Babylonia chapter.
It sets up Masshu's character for Babylonia and Salomon when she has to grapple with her own mortality, no?

I kinda liked that it felt more as if Mash was the main character while Guda was just a side character. I hope the actual anime keeps this up and won't just have everyone sucking his cock for no real reason (which is alright on the game, but just feels out of place on anime).

Mash definitely will be better MC though I don't like her too. Guda will be plain self insert shit.

It was enough to look irrelevant and out of place.

What are the chances of us getting at least one scene with summoned servants

Nigga, it was just the transition. He doesn't talk much, he has like two lines and ends the episode.

I CLAPPED WHEN SHIKISAI STARTED PLAYING

I CLAPPED

Drakes tits were the best part of this

t. Blackbeard

So this anime's gonna cover Solomon, right? This introduction episode would be nothing but blueballing if we don't get Mashu and Goetia's discussion about human worth, and the setup of her dream without having it end with Mashu and Guda beneath the clear sky in the reclaimed 2017.

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Blackbeard hates BBAs you newfag

>animated Ars Nova
Nice

It should, but I cannot imagine how nightmarishly expensive it must be to have all of those VAs in for just one OVA

He's only pretending, read his interlude.

OR it's nothing but an advertisement and ends with a "go play the game to get the ending :^)"

They'll only have Jeanne and whoever has minor plot relevance talking. The pillar fights will be skipped or happen in the background and 99% of those five pixel smears won't say a word.

>all this quality in just episode 0
Why cant they treat their multi billion dollar franchise better?

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If we don't get an Avengers Endgame-scale scene of all the servants dabbing on the pillars then there's no point to this OVA being made

it's just the shitty art style

Do you have ANY idea how much money F/GO makes

They were in their coffins when the bombing happened. No time to run, let alone try magecraft.

How is fighting pillars even visually interesting? They just sit there, writhe, and shoot energy blasts. They were always shitty antagonists to me apart from looking kinda creepy.

Nah they just draw like shit

No quality here, Liz is just hideous

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Just turn them into cute girls

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How did a shitty bomb even hurt a TA?

They all look awful

They can make them as mobile as they want for an OVA, it's not like they'd be breaking some super important canon

Because they could shit out DEEN quality stuff, and it would still print money.

Quantity>Quality

People are just just picking, the start of this episode was kino as fuck.
Yeah they should've go with who ever the illustrator was for Babylonia squad

They can pay some VAs with SQ. Some of them are unironically hooked to the game.

They're still just big, weird-looking ropes with eyes that wiggle around

Yes, but I doubt they're willing to burn such a huge amount of it by having to pay the outrageous wages their VAs demand for just an OVA

What kind of preview do you need for Babylonia? it will play out the same as the game, there's no need to change anything. While the Solomon arc in the game was severely underdeveloped.

Yamanaka Kotetsu (illustrator of the Demon Pillars, Goetia, Tiamat, Holmes) already did that in her artbook

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There's a rumour going around that this chick is actually Olga

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The few seconds of Mash dodging lazers looked decent but everything else looked god awful!
I mean compare this shit to El-Melloi. Fucking night and day.

Don't seiyuu love to reprise their roles in japan? I thought it was a huge deal of respect and professionalism over there.

Her tits dont look that big

this. should've designed them like actual demons from the book of Solomon. When I heard about demon pillars, I never thought that they are literally pillars

Why do people care about Olga so much?
She was pretty useless and existed only to die like a bitch

Sure, but that don't mean they're gonna do it for free. Getting paid isn't seen as unprofessional over there

I dunno user, how did they make the fight with gilles's giant demon insteresting?

Who is the expensive VA?

このクオリティーで作って欲しいけどアニメーターが死んじゃう

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good design

>That animation
If only all anime had this level of quality.

That Bunyan part is my favorite

Speaking of VA, i like seeing Nobunaga cosplaying his characters.

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>Mash throws her shield like Captain America and Izou airsurfs on it
Babylonia anime better have some fun stunts like this

ushi + mash should work well together like that
until the NTR

>Male painting his toenails
Ewww what a faggot.

I like Penth's toss and the camera tracking

This anime is low budget trash. Nobody cares about male MC anyways.

I never get tired watching this, it's so awesome

>ibaraki blocking the fire with her hand

I'm overjoyed that my wife Passionlip got even a second of screentime!

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The only thing fgo characters have is design, so it makes sense

>all that Gudako focus

Will they finally stop being retarded and give her anime?

He's cosplaying user. Arjuna Alter has painted toenails

>all these limited servants that you can't get anymore

What's the point of showcasing Mecha Eli or Passionlip if new players won't be able to roll them ever

The art in the show looks so garbage. The demons will probably look like Overlord tier garbage cgi

It's really funny how Fate became japanese Marvel.

Its to make the fuckers who payed thousands on a mobile game feel better about themselves

And leaving her butt unguarded for a slap!

I'm gonna call BB you ginger prick

She already has one

I thought they're introducing a system to load up old events? Presumably limiteds will be achievable like that.
As for event locked servants like Lip, they'll always come back around for special banners, just exceedingly sparingly.

Ritsuka is way better than mash

Even this is full of fucking QUALITY.
Look at Mecha Liz and the dragons. Look at the Hydra. Look at the Bridge. God, that last bit at the end with the summoning? That looks fucking terrible too.
You can really tell the Beserk 3DCG animation director worked on this.

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????
There's many anime with the VAs of FGO cast together.

Yes, but not with ALL of them

Stop for a second and realize just how many servants show up for the Temple of Time, user

Nice bait.

You could say the photorealistic CG clashes with the 2D animation, but it's a well-animated trailer by all means. Also, it was made by different staff from the Babylonia anime. The usual FOG CM animators worked on it, but with the GOD Eater director of photography handling the digital compositing. The CG itself was by a studio that usually works on stuff like car commercials.

That explains why the surroundings look so good

Easily, if it's a preview for Babylonia they should have shown Gilgamesh and Enkidu's past, so anime only will understand what happened between them. This ova though is direct preview to Salomon. Why even call it Babylonia? Ridiculous.

The backgrounds look pretty great. I'll give that to them. But seriously, that animation just is off and terrible.
>photorealistic
If you mean those fucking dragons, hydra or the fucking massive oni, I'm gonna have to stop myself dying from laughter. The sea was fine. The rest is absolute crap and just looks like shit. I'm sorry. They can't even be asked to give a little detail to the servants who are far away from the camera, I know that's extremely common, but fucking hell. Its a 1 minute animation and the quality is equal to an OVA. There's no story to it, all they had to do was do a good 1 minute animation with decent CG and they failed at that.

>ufotable in purgatory

You call this purgatory when they made these amazing shit? The only one's in purgatory right now is KyoAni.

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And? Aniplex funds Fate anime and none of the VAs are that expensive.

They already have Jeanne, Nero, Drake, and Nightingale just from this preview episode alone.
All they'd need is Mordred and Artoria for the bulk of the dialogue to already be handled, and Ayako Kawasumi shows up to literally every single Fate project, I doubt she has much of a pricetag since Artoria is her star role. (Oh, and a quick check tells me she's actually already on the cast too.. as Fou. So yeah, just Mordred.)

No, there are no plans at all for Solomon adaptation. The more retarded looks their choice for 0 episode storyline.

They spent all money on Mash totally ignoring fan favourites servants, as usual. Sasuga nips and their genius anime business strategy.

Because Gilgamesh and Enkidu's past doesn't need to be told. This episode 0 was shown at FGO Fes and you can play the episode inside the mobage for those that couldn't attend. It was an episode for players that gives hints for future developments.

>Avengers Endgame-scale
You need to be braindead to consider that capeshit something good.

>amazing shit
Yea, if you mean tracing and pretty visuals instead of actual animation I guess you'd be right

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It's not good at all, just typical Takeuchi sameface shit.

It was visually good.

>/alter/ is here

It was good while it lasted

Mordred and Nightingale are both voiced by Sawashiro. Dantes is voiced by Nobunaga Shimazaki who voices the MC.

Why call it babylonia if it has literally nothing to do with it then?

It wasn't. It was CGI shitfest.

We never left dummy.

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Oh, okay. Even less then! Cast's already on board. Pretty sure Cuchulainn had a line too talking to Mashu? Yeah, that's plenty to get the whole spirit of the scene done. And obviously Medusa is going to be in the anime as Gorgon and Ana.

Because Mashu and Roman are main characters that play an important role in Babylonia and FGO as a whole. Because the episode ends with Mashu before going to Babylonia. Because everything relevant about Gilgamesh that needs to be told will be happen during Babylonia and doesn't need an episode for him.

Shut up and Cope Gudao is fucking based!

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Mash and Roman don't play an important role in Babylonia. Mash is just a sidekick to Guda there. All important stuff for them happens AFTER Babylonia. It was retarded to make ova about them and label in babylon. They should have named it Chaldea past or something.

She's probably one of the weakest TA ever, not to mention that it's Fate verse not Tsukihime.

>literally self-insert dummy character
Disgusting

Also remember that Ueda Kana said the Babylonia anime script was different from the game too, so just wait and see i guess.
Nasu is the voice director of Babylonia anime according to Kobayashi Yuu btw.

Mashu has a few important scenes of character development (particularly the one with Leonidas) and her conversation with Goetia occurs between Babylonia and Solomon.

Why, infinity war was pretty good

Then absolute state of the gacha addicted chaotic evil gudako fans

>Mash and Roman don't play an important role in Babylonia

I guess all the scenes of Merlin and Roman fucking with each other without dropping their act flew right over your head

nah she cute

dumb yurishit.

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She's not precisely a True Ancestor, she's just something so similar (an Elemental with a living body) that it's not too important to differentiate them. She is neither as strong as they are, her body is not a recreation of an Ultimate One (else she'd have the Ultimate One skill like Arc), and if she drinks blood she doesn't go crazy.

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What the hell are you talking about, the animation was great

you realize that gudako is literally the same, right?
>inb4 muh meme 4koma

CIA director and bunny girl servants when?

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>it's a jogrekek
Not even surprised

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Team A is a bunch of jobbers anyway. They get top tier servants and a whole world that helps them and yet they still loose to Gudao most of the time using way worse servants namely Mash who is just using a fucking mech armor at this point because Galahad is a whiny bitch.

It wasn't. I've given examples such as the last scene with Billy being in the summoning scene that has animation that looks stilted.
Look at the part with Tamamo, Mash, Gudako and Blackbeard. Didn't even bother to do minimal effort to give the characters some basic details, even at that distance.
Look at Jack with Cu Alter with mash and Gudao.
Look at the bridge falling apart and crashing into the water. It looks off, it looks awful and doesn't blend well at all. Not to mention the way it falls into the water is completely stupid. There's smaller parts of the bridge falling above the fucking main part of the bridge. The Hydra is terrible. The boat on water is pretty good, but again, it clashes with the rest of the animation so hard it looks completely out of place.
Do I even need to repeat myself about Mecha Liz with the dragons? They're terrible too.

Everything in that video clashes with everything else. It looks so overproduced. If only they could rub a bit of that off on the actual fucking show

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Press X for Jason

Yes judging by your previous posts aswell as this one I can clearly tell you are the most qualified person to judge if the animation is good or not. Clearly everyone else is fucking stupid for thinking this animation is good.

I want Brave Liz to get an anime

Lead Character designer Takeuchi

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Why doesn't the dumb fox carry something aswell?

People don't self-insert into Gudako so no they're not the same.

God dammit his style wasn't that bothering in ufotable's anime why it's so weird here?

>that Gudako's ; ω ; face

That hack has to ruin everything doesn't he?

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Embrace your copy and paste savior

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Wow, you really disproved my points there user. I guess the animation is fucking great because people said so.

I wish he had a personality

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>animation is bad because I said so
>"I think it wasn't"
>shut up moron

Yeah my biggest complaint with fgo was the mc.

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>Animation is bad because I said so.
Go back and read the post. I give reasons. All you've said is just "You know you said its bad and I think it isn't so any point you have is wrong"

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you're missing alter, fgog and tmg

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See

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Holyshit there were people there
Who is the other one sleeping?

Literally the worst male Fate MC by far.

Hans

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It's gonna flop literally nobody cares about Gudao.

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Also shit feet so he avoids them

It's pandering to the people who already play the game. Players were surveyed a few years ago on what parts of the story they'd like to see get animated and Babylonia and Camelot were the biggest winners.

If they wanted to pander to anime only retards they'd make a full adaptation that makes some sort of sense and not just skip into the best part of the story.

I want the saber

>Look at Mecha Liz
Yes I want to marry her and show her my great LIZ LOVE

>prescreening in Fes
>only available on FGO app for a short time
I mean it's pretty obvious that ep 0 is for FGO players (kinda like the Lostroom OVA i guess), but yes it is also an advertisement for new animeonlies like how Case Files anime mentioned Adra Castle like two or three times and Rail Zeppelin ends on a cliffhanger too.

>It looks so overproduced.
is this the new "forced animation"?

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Expect, it's not deconstructive and the least and seems to play the premise completely straight.

But people do care about Mash and other servants. Gudao is just there for people to project themselves into.

Can't show blatant lesbian stuff in nu-fate and of the top of my head Babylon has Mash, Eresh and Quetz lusting after you.

Are you actually complaining about something looking too good now?

>Can't show blatant lesbian stuff in nu-fate
Your evidence for this is...?

They could get easy otomebucks with Gil pandering though. And Prisma Illya exists.

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I could've been more hyped if ritsuka was a character with an actual personality

>And Prisma Illya exists.

They sadly toned that down drastically

you can't ruin what was already shit

>tfw I thought redman and Gil were the same person at one point.

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While the assets look good, they are very inconsistent therefore they look very bad when put beside each other even in such a short duration

Who gives a fuck about Gudao. He is literally just there to bark orders and give a speech here and there. They could make him awesome if they give him all the "funny" answer options that are in the game but they are gonna go with the goody two shoes route anyway.

Of course you can

>Dat Evangelion first scene though
Am I the only one with a 160+ IQ that has made the connexion with Evangelion? Surely, statistically, there must be someone with a slightly lesser IQ than mine that did.

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>redman on cuckwatch duty

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The CG was awful so I was paying more attention to that

who gives a fuck about Gudao? I want to see my boy Gil in his glory, not an arrogant asshole like Fate Stay Night

new cutest servant

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He's saving the world alongside with his family and other heroic spirit where his best skill, cooking can shine.

Will Camelot/Zero get animated too ?

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>ERNESTAAAAAAAAAAA
Don't know about that

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>Lancelot killed this

Camelot is getting an animated movie

>New KoTR
>It's just some Gunlance joke from monster hunter
Fuck you Nasu

Daybit is Adam reincarnated and his servant is Cain. Screenshot this

But king hassan is cain

is she for her master?

What? Post evidence

No he's some muslim guy.

Only Ufotable can understand and improve
Takeuchi's Art Style

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Only Ufotable can understand and improve
Takeuchi's Art Style

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Why is Jeanne D'arc only as religiously crazy as her real life counterpart in the chibi webcomic?

This is older Takeuchi's artstyle when he still care.

Based. Male MC 4 life!

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Have they added a skip NP option to the game yet?

Dark Sakura is so sexy.

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Good taste, but there's one other character that is perfect when corrupted

Only Ufotable can understand and improve
Takeuchi's Art Style
Ufotable Great Job

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Ufotable Great Job Thank you

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>why doesn't this anime based on a game with designs made by different artists look just like the game

I prefer DEEN to be honest. They did the best job translating the style of Fate to the small screen.

Yep. They really did. Shit on them all you want, DEEN did a good job with music and visual style.

It's a shame they have overused Maaya sakamoto as VA

This is Studio Dean Everyone don't Forget This Shit

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He's still an arrogant asshole, just a competent one

We get it you Korean ESL fucker now stop.

>described as antediluvian
>unable to die

>jobs to overwork
Why diddn't he just fight the godesses alone if he's so strong

point out where I said anything about powerlevels

Where is he described as either of those and how reliable is said source?

It's still a better Shirou vs Archer fight than Ufotable. Seriously.

In the VN Shirou loses, then gets up, and wins. in the Deen adaptation, Sirou loses, then musters up, and win. In Ufotable's, Shirou loses, gets up, loses, gets up again, is pulled into a reality marble, loses, gets up again, has a big song interlude about his inner power and shit, loses, gets up again, loses again, gets up again, UBW is dismissed, he loses, gets up again, and then win.

3 episodes of total bullshite. 1 hour 20 of stupidity. DEEN, for all the ANIMATION, did a better job at it. You know I'm right.

>competent

Even Gil admires Guda after spending a few months in Babylonia. I'm sure the anime is going to bring even more depth to Guda as a main character.
youtube.com/watch?v=BIZN34WMi5E

That doesn't mean high powerlevels or anything, it means he led a successful defense of his kingdom for months without external assistance and micromanaged it all himself

>if it's not exactly like the VN point for point it's bad, fuck translating things to other mediums in a way were they lend themselves better

Ufotable's fight was much more exciting and engaging, deal with it

>sucessful
every single citizen is ded by the end of the story
even siduri, his right hand woman died

And they would've died much, much sooner if it weren't thanks to his guidance. They survived long enough for Guda to be able to beat Tiamat and end the singularity before it was too late

Except a couple hundred who he sent to the northern wall. A Beast was involved and no servant can fight a Beast alone.

I don't think you've actually read the visual novel if you think the Archer vs. Shirou fight was short.
The UBW anime was a proper adaptation of the VN. It was not only more visually stimulating, but it had important changes that improved the heavy symbolism. Shirou also had no chance of winning in a physical competition vs. Archer. DEEN made it look like Shirou overpowered Archer with sheer strength, which is not only wrong but it's fucking retarded.

She won't survive the cut will she?

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Fuck off retard. DEEN was garbage in just about every way sans music.

Uruk was meant to fall either way. Tiamat awakened and they barely got off by the edge of their teeth

he had the help of two(three?) grand servants and multiple divine spirits

Agree. DEEN honestly understood the point of the fight.

And? Isn't gathering allies also competence?

not so competent if his kindgom was destroyed

I don't see why not. They already said Ushi and Benkei will be the comedic foils, and Quetz is a goofy woman. This won't be Zero tier levels of seriousness

see
There only way there might have been a better result was if Ishtar hadn't lost Gugalanna

But Uruk was destined to be destroyed.

sound like a fancy way of saying "d-doesn't count"

>if Ishtar hadn't lost Gugalanna
Technically she didn't lost Gugalanna. Ishtar from SF took Gugalanna from her.

>Ufotable's fight was much more exciting and engaging, deal with it
It isn't after 35 minutes of the same bullshit. That's the entire point of the critique.

The second half of UBW is slow. Sometimes, ridiculously slow and disjointed. It is present everywhere in the second season, but it is especially incarnated by the Shirou vs Archer fight, that goes on for 3 entire episodes and has six or seven "Shirou gets up after a crushing blow". The emotional high point of the fight, with the music and the song and the parallels with Artoria, is before the halfway point of the fight. I'll repeat it. When the fight should have ended, when the music boosts out and Shirou finds in himself the path to move forward, the fight is not even half-way finished.

I've talked with many normies who've watched ufotable's UBW. Most agrees that they were bored with the Shirou vs Archer fight. You can't expect anyone to endure an 1:25:00 long fight that retread old grounds again and again. Only the most brainwashed of morons can. You can't expect someone to see the hero falls down, gets up, falls down, gets up, falls down (with music), gets up, falls down, gets up, falls down, gets up, falls down, and gets ups, and then not feel that something isn't quite right.

For this fight, DEEN had an horrible animation. DEEN was also far closer to the source material, and far less boring.

I know, but that wouldn't have been possible if she kept a closer eye on it in the first place

God I wished Dark Sakura could just slice off my balls and spit on me.

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Nigger the point is that history doesn't change on a large scale. Uruk was fucking dead because it was destined to be, what Gil does with his actions is what matters.

>she kept a closer eye on it in the first place
I think that's a situation that is more related to the behind the scenes than the story. Ishtar mentions she lost Gugalanna but we don't have an official answer until it's revealed SF Ishtar took Gugalanna with her. Something Narita did on his own.

Archer Vs Shiro is not Fight Action Scene you fool
It is Ideal Vs Ideal Crush Scene

>DEEN was also far closer to the source material,
Fucking shut the fuck up if you've never read the visual novel retard. Nobody believes you've actually read it after you've proven multiple times you clearly haven't.
>You can't expect anyone to endure an 1:25:00 long fight that retread old grounds again and again.
Congrats, you and your friends have ADHD and watched the show expecting flashy DBZ-like swordfights instead of exploration of what it means to be a hero and the pursuit of selflessness.
Kill yourself.

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>DEEN was also far closer to the source material
I just wanted to call more attention to how stupid this sentence was. You couldn't be more ignorant if you tried. You're a liar and scum.

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>For this fight, DEEN had an horrible animation. DEEN was also far closer to the source material, and far less boring.
Exactly. I could not have said it better.

boring garbage

Fate is not a series for you. Go find something more action oriented and mindless.

Uruk was going to be destroyed as per history anyway, the most important part is to defeat Tiamat.

so the whole reveal about how the deaths from singularities can't be undone cause you can't change what has already happened that means goeita didn't really change much other than how people died in these singularities right? but despite gil saying we can't change what has already happened we mange to keep hundreds of people alive longer than they were supposed to be so didn't we change something that already happened

No, they still died at the end, Uruk was still destroyed, that's all that matters.
The only thing that changed was how the deaths happened.

Someone is giddy.

FYI, in the VN, Archer crushes Shirou's ideals, then Shirou is in a limbo thinking about his ideals, but he musters up once, and decides to crush Archer. Three acts character development, easy to understand, and relatively fast. It's still emotionally poignant, and a great moment of the VN, maybe the best moment altogether with some parts of Heaven's Feel. There are none of the "will I or won't I, am decided but I'm not, he's completely wrong but... three minutes later, Archer's right" that is in the Ufotable's adaptation.

If you didn't read the original material, I can sort of understand why you'd consider the Ufotable's adaptation of that fight decent. But it isn't. It's boring, repetitive, don't stop when it should, and continue far after what is reasonable. How many times can Shirou decide that Archer is wrong? Seriously? How many times can he be crushed and then tap into hidden depth and be crushed again? What even is the point of those scenes?

I've read conflicting reports about the second season of Ufotable's UBW. Some say it had an issue with budget, other than there weren't enough material to adapt into a second season, and that's why it is so shit.

it doesn't get more mindless than a gacha game user.

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so your saying you can make small changes such a bit of diffidence in when they died just not big changes

I decided to stop being a secondaryfag, so I've been reading the VN in my free time for the past week.

I've only just summoned Saber.

For the entire sequence from Lancer showing up at Shirou's home, to him fleeing after failing to kill Saber, I did an experiment, where I rewrote everything I read, but concisely, while maintaining all the important theming.

Most of the time two "pages" could be condensed down to a single sentence. In particularly dense pages, one page could only be cut down to two sentences.

Why does this thing ramble so goddamn much?

user I hope you like swords, justice, and cooking

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Yes.
History thus stays the "same", Uruk is destroyed, Camelot falls, Rome is destroyed, the american civil war happens, etc etc, but the minor details are changed.

>I shortened Lord of the Rings to the "midget takes a ring to a mountain"
>"Im so smart tehee xD"

Kys

You really are retarded if you think those episodes were just the Archer vs. Shirou fight and nothing else.
There was Rin's whole situation spliced into every episode several times.
There was Saber's reflection upon their situation and likening it to her own.
The fight in the VN was equally as long, it just had a fuckload more inner monologue which was transferred to a visual format via symbolism.
The actual fight is barely fucking 15 minutes in the anime so don't give me any of this "an hour and a half of repetition!" bullshit.

Shirou falls on his ass the exact same amount of times as in the anime. He experiences his flashbacks and hardens his ideal at the same time.
The biggest difference from the anime and VN is that instead of projection various different swords they stick to Kanshou and Bakuya, the swords that represent truth and ideal through yin and yang.
>If you didn't read the original material, I can sort of understand why you'd consider the Ufotable's adaptation of that fight decent.
Don't pull that shit on me. You're not fooling anyone.
The archer vs shirou fight was the climax of the entire route. Obviously it's going to get the most attention and focus.

The UBW movie was a rushed piece of shit that forgot the entire purpose of the fight in exchange for a really poorly animated sword fight where Shirou somehow overpowers Archer just because he shouted "you're wrong" the loudest. It doesn't do anything to explain why Shirou still pursues his path of heroism. Fuck, if anything it tries you sell you that "might makes right".

the fact you can make small changes but not big ones seems arbitrary and contrived especially since logically the small changes would build up over time and result in big changes

You can condense anything into a sentence.

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Not at all.

I don't need to see Shirou explain what a he thinks a "fight" is. That it's a battle between two people, where both could potentially kill the other. And where both of them are trying to kill each other, so the outcome could go either way. What happened earlier was not a fight. But this, right now, is a real fight. But not just that. The girl called Saber is even pushing that man back.

I need to know that Shirou himself couldn't even put up a fight, but that girl, Saber, actually has him on the defensive.

You could remove Taiga and Quetz from the story and nothing would change.

Shirou was explaining that him vs. Lancer wasn't a fight because it was completely one sided.

Congrats on not being able to extrapolate this information even after having it all laid out for you. You are literally too dumb for fate.

>Quetz
>not important
Look man you don't have to like her but that's just wrong.

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>Guy who reads F/SN just to say he read the VN gets mad the writing isn't a condensed sparknotes and that it actually requires paying attention.
How the fuck does F/SN draw in so many people with ADD?

The small changes mean jackshit, because timelocks.
There are events that WILL happen regardless of timelines, Uruk and Camelot falling, Sefar's attack on Earth, Rome's collapse, Fuyuki Grail War, etc etc. They will happen, the details will be different, but they do happen.

For example, there was many instances of the "Fuyuki Grail War", there's the one in FSN, the one in UBW, the one in HF, the one in FGO, even Miyu's timeline had one.
Different things happened in them, but the main point is that the "Fuyuki Grail War" happened.

"couldn't even put up a fight" serves the same purpose in a single sentence fragment.

I don't want it laid out for me in that much obnoxious detail, because I'm perfectly capable of figuring that out without a long-winded explanation.

If you can't extrapolate that information without a paragraph-long explanation, you might be too dumb for reading in general.

>remove quetz
you know she's one of the main reasons Tiamat can't move right

"I wish the VN was shorter" also serves yours, but I wouldn't say no to more information.
You're not very far in the VN and you're already whining.
I think it's a little too much for you; you show absolutely no tolerance and you treat it like a chore.
Just drop the VN and admit you haven't read it when you butt into discussions from now on.

It doesn't need to be condensed as far as possible. I'm not asking for "I couldn't win, but Saber can."

But if you've read anything with actual quality to it, then this reeks of being intentionally drawn out as long as possible.

>Remove Quetz

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Well anyway so goetia only changed how people died to start the singularities right since you can't make significant changes to history right?

Why does he have to look like a weird Slash cosplayer?

Can't magicians be normal?

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Sorry bro, Lancelot already penetrated her

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More like skullbashed her

Hey, newfag. Yes, I know you're that newfag. Can easily tell with the filenames.
Do you think you should at least, you know, know about the things you talk about before opening your dumb mouth?
It isn't a fucking magician.

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I wish a servant would like me

This particular fight at least animation wise is drawn out to pad it out. Monologues happen a lot faster irl so reading them in a VN isn't as vexing

Goetia destroyed the very mechanism that kept history under control, so what he did could not be automatically reverted. He bellows it at the top of his lungs, "Human Order Incineration Ritual: Goetia" is his true identity.

>Can't magicians be normal?
No. That's literally the point of them. You aren't a normal person if you're a mage. They're the kind of people to autism so hard that they'll literally cut themselves into multiple pieces, spread them across a building in an elaborate ritual to live forever as a spirit to reach the Root themselves rather than just give their crest to a sibling

Mages are autism incarnate

>"I wish the VN was shorter" also serves yours
No, it doesn't. That explains "what," but not "why." It's missing information.

One of the most basic rules, for any kind of writing, is to not waste the reader's time. If you can express the same information with less words, do it.

The VN feels like Nasu is trying to reach a word count. Unless Shirou's opinion on what a "fight" is becomes a major theme down the line, and it doesn't need to be repeated at that point, it didn't need to be there.

>Shirou falls on his ass the exact same amount of times as in the anime. He experiences his flashbacks and hardens his ideal at the same time.
And that's fundamentally where you're wrong. That's where you don't understand why random people just find that fight boring.

In both Deen and the original VN, the fight between Shirou and Archer follows the same narrative pattern. I'm not talking about the rest of the work: DEEN's movie is a mess. I'm talking about that particular fight. In both, Shirou is unbelieving, he is crushed, and then find in himself the way to move forward with a flashback. It is the climax of the entire route, yes, but a climax that flows naturally, if only because it doesn't take 1:20:00 of screentime.

In Ufotable's fight, there are three (!) (3) flashbacks. Not one. Nor two. It's isn't like the novel or DEEN, nor is it an emotional climax of the route. You can't say that a 1:20:00 fight with three (3) flashbacks and seven (7) "get up after being crushed" scenes is an emotional climax of everything. It doesn't follow. The VN isn't like that, DEEN's adaptation isn't like that. Because Nasu, even though he isn't the best writer, knows that you can't drag down a fight for more than one hour by using the same narrative devices.

Ufotable sins by trying to push too much content into a single fight. Repeating the same patterns. Be defeated, find in yourself the way to move forward. Four times. Making it boring, without good reasons as to why.

Now, now, Ufotable's first season of UBW is almost perfect. I have nothing to say against it. I just wish that particular fight was better handled, or even that the second season of the anime was better handled.

hey on I thought he hadn't done that yet wasn't he gathering energy from the singularities so he could that if he destroyed the mechanism that kept history under control how come we were still affected by its rules

mean hang on

I think it's because ubw feels shorter in terms of meaningful development or exposition

>if only because it doesn't take 1:20:00 of screentime.
There you go again:
youtube.com/watch?v=onQNX6xao7A&t=8s
Here. A 12 minute video of the entire fight of Archer vs. Shirou without any of the other side content. This is JUST the Archer vs. Shirou fight.
You're literally complaining the fight isn't fast enough. Too bad. In the VN the fight was long as fuck too. I know, I read the route three goddamn times.
>In Ufotable's fight, there are three (!) (3) flashbacks.
Another method of incorporating inner monologue into visual information.

Now shut the fuck up about the hour and a half long fight when it clearly WASN'T an hour an a half long. It was 12 minutes
Shut your fucking mouth and leave.

You are so ignorant yet you manage to almost sound convincing by being a liar lol.

He had already completed that by the time you start the game. Anyway, the rules came back after you defeat him.

but you don't defeat him until after all the singularities so how can the rules still be affecting you during the singularities.

>Because Nasu, even though he isn't the best writer, knows that you can't drag down a fight for more than one hour by using the same narrative devices.
Nasu was directly involved in the production of the UBW anime by ufotable and all the changes are because of him, changes he wished to make after the VN was completed.

Cause it all works again retroactively. Time travel works like that.

so your saying the rules still effected you cause you were destined to win?

I know I'm going to get lynched for bringing it up but Homestuck does a good job with time travel.
Everything is pre-destined, everything happens because it already happened. Certain characters time travel back to cause an event specifically because it already happened and knowing about it won't change dick all. Those kids are effectively trapped in a narrative where everything is already decided for them and they just go through the motions.

That's how it works in Fate too.

Based and redpilled.

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>cloverworks
my condolences fate faggots

It's fine, most Fate works aren't good to begin with and Babylonia was only cool because of the sheer scope of the stakes. The characters and plot were still fucking shit so it goes without saying it'll be poorly adapted too.

>Because Gilgamesh and Enkidu's past doesn't need to be told.
It absolutely does. I have no idea how poeple think otherwise. Nobody likes the Gilgamesh and Enkidu dynamic, because we're just told they were bros. We never get to SEE this. Imagine giving a shit about Enkidu/Kingu struggles and what they feel about Gil if we never get to see them interact before all this went down? It breaks one of the most important tenets of writing.

>She is neither as strong as they are
Yes she is. She has backup from the planet same as them, which has always been what made TAs powerful. Shit like Marble phantasm and +1 backup are Arcueid's personal buffs or reserved for the strongest TAs. TAs are hunted down and killed. Hinako actually had good feats.

Actually Babylonia - was pretty great animation. a-1 being the studio doesn't mean anything. The animators themselves are great.

I liked it. It was better quality than the previous specials, or at least First Order. Eggplant was as cute as usual, one of the few forced mobage main girls I actually like.

Why are they lewding the eggplant? I thought she was not for lewd?

youtu.be/n_s3hTD5szI

it's ok. i guess

To be fair in every other timeline he is alright for a Magus at least.
He commits suicide taking Flauros with him so that Flauros can't initiate the incineration of humanity

Poor Mashu ;~;

Grand Bomber

Lol and he ends up summoning his(her) son(daughter) later.

so all animusphre are dead?

E rank strength

Unlikely

they actually used a computer for the chant?

atlas tech ftw

their family shouldn't be that small

Best Saint

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>ahah she spoke funny
no

Based Martha

anyone else wan't BB and OG sakura to meet?

Not a good idea because BB is a vastly superior character and will show just how inferior OG Sakura really is if they were to meet face to face.

Actually you are a retard, kill yourself

youtu.be/5MkBFxre8jA
How nice.

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I wonder if anyone who doesn't know the story is going to watch this. I want to see the reactions when they reveal Bedi isn't a servant

Bedi is best boy

MUH JANNU

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>don't self insert into gudako
>all those twitter and Pixiv images of gudakos sweeping and being swept off their feet by the likes of roman, gil, dantes, and any round table knight
Maybe at a lesser rate, but at all? You can't be serious.

I agree, that's why I hope the anime includes their story. I mean when Kingu goes how this feeling in his chest is not his, getting dreams of Gilkidu back in the day, can't harm Gil, the last words of Shiduri etc it will be heavier and better if we see their past.

Filthy secondary here. Why did Salter know what the Grand OIrder was in the first OAV? Why she wasn't letting the Singularity collapse?

She's a Guardian of Humanity.

Don't forget the non-magus MC who feels compelled to sacrifice herself for others. Too bad it's not nearly as good as that makes it sound.

youtube.com/watch?v=67njJLl4sRM
just watch this for your gilkidu backstory and shipping

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i thought this was a boy

You could remove Benkei and Ushiwakamaru too but apparently you need to have nipwank in everything.

>kissanime streamer complaining about things being low quality

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i wonder what enuma elish will look like this time around. will it just be some red wind effects or will it actually temporarily break the fabric of the world like in CCC and FGO

>removing Benkei
Send yourself to the Pure Land.

I love this one but we need official stuff too. We only have some art here and there from FGO but nothing more. I hope it changes with the anime.

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I hope they show Ibaraki.

At max I imagine we'll get short flashes to Ibaraki, Amakusa, Fuuma and Tomoe when it's mentioned what happened to them.

She sacrifices because she wants to feel like her existence means something. Shirou sacrifices because he admires the ideal of sacrifice.

Will the lesbos show up even if they are jokes?

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Was that Mash or just Galahad being pissed of?

OLD AND BUSTED
MAJIN AND MAOU ARE NEW HOTNESS
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Galahad, he is not stupid and knew exactly the shit Moneybill was about to do and not putting up with it.

We are going to confront him in LB6

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>"That's the King of Knights, His Royal Majesty Arthur...! To think we'd meet again... (starts crying) ...My deepest apologies... My deepest apologies...! ...For I wasn't able to take part in your final battle...!"
>"Sir Bedivere! It's really you! ...Huh? What has happened to you arm? It's changed completely... What happened to it?"
>"Good day, Dearest Brother. .......Gawain? Ahahaha... Would you please stop ruffling my hair? I'll get upset. ...Even so, Brother, I am happy to see you. I love you!"
>"This is Mordred's presence... Hmmm... I'd love to speak to him more but I can't seem to find the opportunity..."
>"Infidelity is wrong! Sir Tristan. Sir Tristan! Please stop looking away, Sir Tristan!"
>"...T-To be honest, I can't really deal with Merlin. I like him, but he's also a bit frightening... I don't really understand why. Master, please don't tell Merlin about this."
>"Huh? Sir Galahad? ...You ARE Sir Galahad, are you not? Why have you turned into a girl? ...Ah! I was wrong, you're Ms. Mash! My apologies! Ahaha, I just..."
>"HYAAA! No way! No way no way no way! To think this could happen! I can't believe it! ...To think Sir Lancelot would be here...! How could that be! Awawawawa...! What should I do!?"
>"This sinister presence... He looks just as he did on the day he took my life. Sir Lancelot... Even now, it seems my voice cannot reach you..."
>"Oho! A knight of the Franks! Let us speak of lances together! Indeed, let us speak of lances!"
>"...Huh? His Majesty King Arthor...? Wait, you seem rather different... Um, I beg of you to forgive my rudeness, but... I think riding upon a horse indoors is a little..."
>"His Majesty? ...You ARE His Majesty, right? ...Huh?"

>Both versions are some of the worst servants in their class

Okita Alter may look cool but the OG is superior.

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No

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Redpill me on this Saberface and little girl Nobunaga are they good additions to Fate?

They're from a gag series called Koha Ace. The joke is that male heroes keep getting turned into girls. Okita's joke was that Takeuchi was gonna design a new Servant but it just turned out to be a Saberface. They were really popular so they were added to FGO. Most of their events are gags.

>additions

They been around for a long time, well before FGO came out

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Both are jokes from a joke manga but people loved them so they got added to FGO. Okita is from this old police samurai organization and Nobunaga is well Nobunaga.

youtu.be/kSdv9S-VTjk

>Okita has won a grail

Argument is invalid

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>Okita

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I really like Nobu honestly. She's just cool even if a unnecessary genderbent. Okita is cute.

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>"Heracles! If it isn't Heracles! Hahaha! Your scowl is dreary as ever! If anything, I can rest easy! Alright, I'll leave the rest to you. As always, let's wrap things up quickly!"
>"KAAAHHH! The ex-wife!! I'm sorry alright, just don't turn me into a figure! ...Huh? You have no such intention? DON'T LIE!! SHOW ME YOUR WORKSHIP!!"
>"...The Medea who knew no fear, from when she met me in my adventuring days. ...Ugh, how lovely. No matter how many times I see her, she's just beautiful. She's taken from before she would be made my wife, I see. As it was the goddess's order, it couldn't be helped. But even so! That's an entirely separate matter! Even if it's for my sake, to have her slice her own brother apart! Anyone would be shocked by that! It wasn't my fault!"
>"The stench of a cat, Atalante, is it? Your face is as depressing as usual. That's exactly why you're hated by children. AH, I WAS KIDDING, IT'S A JOKE, PUT AWAY YOUR BOW, YOUR BOOOOOWWWW!!"
>"What, if it isn't Instructor Cheiron. There's nothing more I want to learn from you. I mean, I've already mastered everything. No, why are you taking out your textbooks!? A randoseru!? Are you telling me to wear a randoseru!?"
>"This stench of medicinal herbs... Ascrepius, is it? As usual, you're a man who cares for nothing besides medicine, but... As long as you're here, there's nothing to fear. Give priority to my health above all else. Of course, you can put the bill on my tab."

Jason quotes?

Based Jason

When is DKNobu coming to NA?

based Cheiron

Nothing for Achilles? I guess that was before his time but I was hoping he would comment about Pellus.

2 years (maybe more)

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She came out last month in JP so two years.

>"The stench of a cat, Atalante, is it? Your face is as depressing as usual. That's exactly why you're hated by children.

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Why is she so autistic for kids?

I used to think that, but then they brought the entire cast back for voiced Valentines scenes.

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Achilles doesn't apply for his Argonaut buff, so it's probably due to that (Paris and Circe do get his buff though)

Can't wait for Sima Yi,hearing good things about that old man(girl).

Oh, by the way. Paris is a little boy because Apollo likes little boys.

Good fuck Paris let the trapfags have him little fucker caused to much suffering on both sides of the war.

BB is pretty much just a more haughty, memeish Hollow Sakura. The original will likely sigh at her antics and give more stoic, but colder ice burns. After all, if there is anyone Sakura is harshest to, its herself, so I expect the colder part of her to come out if BB starts being too fresh. If not, it'll be sweetness as they feed off each other.

>t.Achilles

Man, Gareth is prime grail material. Wish she was 3*, but oh well. If you give her a few grails, she should be a pretty decent tank.

Newer F2P servants have been better than various early 4 stars.

>Cu Alter in Camelot desert
Best boy crutch support gets his due

Gareth is a She? well being Saber's nephew i shouldn't be surprised,but i still am.

There have always been a few decent f2ps. Cu Chulainn, Mozart and Andersen come to mind.

Man, this is as bad as the diary scene in Hollow about Sakura with Shinji and Zouken. Nasu really tries to make the most awful people humorous. Only one I don't think he tries to get silly yucks out of is Makihisa/Kohaku.

>memeish
She's a flagrant shitposter.

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Nasu didn't write Jason. Though he did approve him. Besides, FGO's Jason has a lot of fans. People went ballistic when he became available in the gacha finally. Plus he's a 1* FP unit so literally anyone can get him.

His primary purpose is as a support character. He's not that strong, but he has decent buffs, particularly for Argonaut-attribute units. That means that Heracles, Medea, Other Medea, Evilcat, Berserkercat, Circe, Cheiron and some others I think benefit from being on the same team as him.

Oh fuck, I'll never be able to unsee the hands

Atalante confirmed for smelling of cat piss

Jason did nothing wrong though

>knight of the Franks
Is this referring to Astolfo?

shame there's no comment on gray/kay

It's not uncommon for rip-offs to miss what made the original compelling. Also, Shirou doesn't admire self-sacrifice, he spends the entire Fate route hating it, his ideals are just tainted by his survivor's guilt to the point where he doesn't consider himself as part of "the ending where everyone is happy."

don't you mean
>t.Menelaus, wifebeater

How can they make King Hassan entrance impactful if they skip Camelot? Its literally one of the hypest moments in the entire game

Im the reason Fate is a successful you honestly think Nasus shitty Otome story was gonna move sales?

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Based Takeuchibro telling it like it is

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You should be more surprised that there aren't more genderflips among the Round Table. Confirmed Knights of the Round Table are:

>King Arthur (cute)
>Kay (tsundere nii-chan)
>Bedivere (I hope waga ou notices me)
>Gawain (stupid gorilla)
>Lancelot (ruiner of everything)
>Agravain (bitchy secretary)
>Gareth (only other confirmed girl)
>Tristan (open mouth insert foot)
>Bors (no design or profile)
>Gaheris (no design or profile)
>Mordred (idiot)
>Percival (King Arthur's #1 fan)
>Galahad (daddy issues)

That or Bradamante since she's a lancer too

That would make more sense, due to the Merlin connection and all

It's so Nasu can still make her shitty otome game

Look, we all know she's not perfect, but I don't think it's fair to call Sakura one of "the most awful people."

>Gets to draw various versions of his waifu
>probably jacked off to the porn scenes he wrote in F/SN
>Is set for life with various company vacations to Hawaii and all the work he does is in photoshop
>All becasue he told Nasu "we should make King Arthur a girl"

How can one man be so based?

Why not just make Fate/Prototype? That's an otome game.

I think once heavens feel 3 is finished we either move to HA or Prototype gets a full adaption.

Speaking of the KOTR, why didn't the Lion King remember who Bedivere was? Was that ever explained?

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Incidentally, Lancelot is the worst. The absolute worst. Gareth was unarmed. She had absolutely no intention of fighting. Lancelot smashed her head in just for being there in a violent frenzy.

He also told Nasu to make twin maids. As far as I'm concerned, Takeuchi can copy all he fucking wants. He already produced enough content for a lifetime

That and he literally took in Nasu's ass to live with him while also being the only one actually working/selling a ton of his collection to fund them.

As much as you can bitch about his art no one can talk shit about Takeuchi's role in making the company a success. He did everything perfectly

Has anyone ever doubted that Lance "French fanfiction" lot was a piece of shit? There's a reason he goes full retard in F/Z

He never speaks of Gareth once. All he does is whine about how his king never punished him. He doesn't give a single solitary shit about the girl who admired him more than anyone, whom he murdered with his own hands. To make matters worse, Saber probably blames herself for her death as well.

Gareth's greatest regret is not being able to take part in the Battle of Camlann at her King's side. Because she was dead before it could happen.

Sorry, you can't spin that to her when it's obvious I was talking about the useless Shinji and Zouken who can't even wash a damn dish.

Did they purposely make Chen Gong the worst unit in the game?

don't you mean the best?

What? He's unironically broken as fuck.

I like to imagine the whole event going down like a FUCKING GAMESTOP story with Lancelot spilling spaghetti while raving about "rescue Guinevere" and "please punish me."

Shouldn't you be off slaying your kin, Sakura?

Reminder both Fate and Monty Python and Quest for the holy grail are the only accurate portrays of this fucking psycho.

youtu.be/GJoM7V54T-c

He's a free Plugsuit switcher, why would you think he's bad?

>Chen Gong: I was just about to go wild with my own prided tactic.
>Red Hare: That’s because Chen Gong-dono’s only tactic is just "Right there, blow yourself up" isn’t it!? I’m not a robot so that’d kill me!
Also IMO i don't think he is bad though...

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He can't even use his Noble Phantasm if there's no one to sacrifice.

>targetable taunt
>waver's defense skill
>hero creation lite
fantastic skills
>NP has massive damage
>gets rid of useless ally, fantastic for farming
>more damage on overcharge
he's the best low rarity servant in the game now

France was a mistake

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99% of what anyone knows about arthurian mythos is french fanfiction

yeah, he's obviously a support, not a solo servant. but he's one of the best supports in the game.

user are you really that bad at the game? He's like the Arts version of Dantes, except a fucking bronze.

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>Hey

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His NP damage is Arash tier, he works better as an attacker than a support even though he can also be one.

Hey, he hesitates to kill Gareth during Camelot/Zero

Chen Gong is OP as fuck. Jesus Christ.

>How Lancelot got Madness Enchantment

What is a servant who would care for you but isn't mad?
bonus point if good design

>MUH CGI IT'S BAD BAD BAD BECAUSE I SAID SO

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Kintoki
Men want to be like him
Kids want to play with him
Women want to sleep with him

Best Bro Servant

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she would cough blood everywhere

I know little about her beyond the fact that she's sick and rather weak
is she nice?

Emiya

Shes an airhead but shes the best saberface!

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Why is good full of dragons?

How can she be a Saberface if she has never had a swimsuit?

Whose VAs are these?

>but isn't mad
Isn't he a Berserker?

Karna

>is she nice?
She's very dedicated to (You), a bit of a doofus but on the battlefield she's a cold-blooded killer.

the madness enhancedment only activates when he gets hit and it works by turning him red and making him stronger.

Berserker=/=Crazy or mad

Look at this motherfucker, his design edgelord as fuck. He is one of the most rational Servants in the game and he is a Berserker

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FGO has berserkers who still somewhat have normal minds for the most part. Okita didnt even think Hijikata was one when he finally came to FGO.

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Kintoki has a unique skill as a berserker that lets him keep his sanity.

Hijikata is very crazy though Okita herself did not realize it becasue thats how he acted before he died and when he was alive he was borderline insane.

Kay: Couldn't deal with how his imouto was basically sacrificing herself day and night.
Bedivere: His greatest regret was that he couldn't see his King's smile.
Gawain: There's no helping this idiot.
Lancelot: Name one thing, ONE fucking thing this idiot ever did right.
Agravain: You can't do much about poor upbringing. If only he didn't have a stick rammed up his ass all the time.
Gareth: Cute, but has the worst taste in men.
Tristan: The perfect example of someone who says things he doesn't mean and regrets those words for the rest of his life.
Mordred: You can't do much about poor upbringing. If only she weren't dropped on her head as a baby.
Galahad: Kind of a dick.

I don't get this image. What's it trying to say?

so gareth isn't pure?

This is my mom. I love him.

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just a fanboy crush on lancelot

Waver buffed Arash to kill himself. Now Chen Gong is killing Waver with his NP.

>Top image
Left: Arash
Right: Waver
>bottom
Left: Waver
Right: Chen Gong

Arash's NP kills himself. Waver charges people's NP. Essentially he's waiting for him to die.

Chen Gong's NP kills his allies.

Gareth was super horny for Lyonesse.

But why

That's how he works, see

Okita herself might be a dumbo but when she’s fighting she goes all out she calls herself manslayer all the time.

It's the new farming strat. Waver used to buff Arash to kill himself, now he's buffing Chen Gong who kills him instead.

>be solomon
>want to become a human
>win the grail war you get summoned into
>make your wish to become human
>become a wageslave
are they trying to say something

From left to right (not counting Mafia cuz he is MC):
>Okubo Rumi: Eli, Astolfo
>Hayami Saori: Martha, Atalanta, Melt, Ushi
>Kawasumi Ayako: Seiba, Fou, Anne
>Shimazaki Nobunaga: Arjuna, Dantes, Gudao
>Akabane Kenji: Kadoc
>Yuuki Aoi: Okita, Tiamat, Shuten, Jinako
>Tanaka Minami: Ortlinde, Nito
>Tsuruoka Satoshi: Arash, Spartacus, Gilles, Caligula

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Gareth is pure. Lancelot never fucked her. Lancelot only fucks married women.
Gareth's greatest regret is not being able to fight by her king's side in the end. She can't even look Saber in the face without bursting into tears.

Gareth is one of the few members of the Round Table that Mordred liked, the other being Agravain.

then would gareth put out?
this is very important

All the Knights of the Round Table would put out for their king.

Kay sounds like the kind of person Mordred would get along with tbf, but I guess they never got a chance to actually interact normally since she was hiding her identity with the armor.

Dear god the second girls arms

I wonder if we'll get a Gareth Alter based off of her descriptions in the Camelot Singularity.

Top: KOTR
Bottom: Paladins

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Paladins are way more fun plus their king & kingdom weren't pathetic failures

The only thing she'd berate you on is not praying to God enough

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How will Gareth react when she learns that her king is a girl?

too dumb to realize

Does she even realize she is a girl?

Strictly speaking, the only RTKs who knew were Kay and Lancelot. But, well. One look at the Summer version and you'd figure it out instantly.

That's an alt world version, that's what they tell themselves. Chaldea is full of alt world versions of their king so they can pass off any explanation they want.

At Chaldea, she doesn't normally have all her armor on. Her top doesn't cover the minimal cleavage she has.

She has the chest of a fifteen year old boy. Even if she was topless they wouldn't see her as a girl.

Titoria says hello.

>those Zelretches

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alt world version, the knights understand that. Its not the same as their king.

See how easy that excuse is for the knights. They already know that many alt world versions of their king exist in Chaldea.

>"Yeah, surely she's just a version of our King from another world. Isn't that right, Sir Lancelot?"
>Lancelot looks away
>"...Sir Lancelot?"
>Lancelot refuses to meet anyone's eyes
>"........"

It'll be revealed in Lostbelt 7 when we find out Daybit is actually good and Marisbury is the final boss. That's why Daybit is the last Crypter, he'll deliver the last revelation.

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This look at the fucking episode. They show Flauros awakening/stirring directly connected to Marisbury (he's in his fucking office where he shot himself as the alarm for the crisis run the first time). Marisbury's death and actions triggered everything. And we won't find out the truth behind it all until Lostbelt VII.

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Marisbury was fucking smiling as a city burned, user. He's creepier than Lev (regular) was. Lev just dressed funnily in Animusphere workshop.

Only because Takeuchi draws a near cake as a teenager, but they are. watch lostroom.

He's the cutest wageslave.

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>alt world version, the knights understand that. Its not the same as their king.
No, the KOTR recognise her as the king but don't recognise that she's a woman.
My headcanon is that Bedivere's character design blinded the KOTR to Artoria clearly looking like a woman.

Seeing all those singularities was nice.
Thank fuck we don't have to sit through them though.

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But murrica is cool

I hated it so I started skipping most of the cutscenes.

For Shirou it's not about guilt. Shirou associates happiness only with saving others. When he first woke up from being erased by the fire, he saw Kiritsugu crying while saving him. Shirou is empty like Kotomine but in a different way.

There's nothing interesting about this.It's just candy for fgo players

Can you blame them? The cutscenes in the game are just static images of the characters with a dialogue box that's literally nothing but dialogue.
It's the most boring, half-assed way you can possibly tell a story in a JRPG.

Welcome to Type Moon circa Reiwa era. Feel free to head to the bunker known as /tmg/ to talk about the good old days.

To comfort him with the strong arms of Beochad, of course

Lmao,I can feel the split of the fanbase

There are multiple times in each route where Shirou explicitly states that he has to do something because he has a responsibility to all the people who died in his place that day. UBW retroactively puts a positive spin on it, but it doesn't change the fact that his craving for becoming a seigi no mikata is rooted in severe mental trauma.

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What movie? Sherlock holmes?

user, the split is already a thing for years. We literally have the fgo gacha addicts over at the generals on /vg/ and the dying tsukihime old men on /jp/

Its funny that I saw actual Tsukihime discussion on /vg/ before while all I saw when I peered into /tmg/ was people seething and a Dies Iraefag spamming shit.

The real problem is that Takeuchi ignores all the muscles and scars she's supposed to have. The knights see a better disguise than the audience.

>Scars
You do know she has a healing factor, right?

They're catching up

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Probably ? I mean isn't Mashu a Holmesfag ?

Yeah, her reaction to finding Holmes in Atlas was "wow! it's sherlock holmes! the legendary detective is real!"

You know that scars are part of the normal healing process right?

She had Avalon for most of her reign. Avalon healed Shirou's body so perfectly that not a single bit of evidence ever remained of his injuries.

In fact, magic healing never seems to leave any scars. After Rin healed Shirou's Gae Bolg wound in the prologue, it was as if nothing happened.

IIRC the scene where she complains about her muscles mentions scars too, but its been awhile.

She's just self-conscious. I mean, her body hasn't changed at all since she first picked up her sword, so how much muscle could she possibly have? Unless she went through strenuous body-building exercises before she turned fourteen.

Merlin gave her magic protein shakes if you catch my drift. Even with magic swords you still need some strength to swing it and do normal fighting stuff.

Using Rhongomyniad turned Artoria into a divine spirit, overwriting her previous personality and memories. Basically, she was being possessed by the spear.

But she knew all her other knights.

When Saber isn't charging her body with mana, she's weaker than Rin. When she darts around the battle field blowing enemies away, that's all due to Mana Burst.

Because they were heroic spirits and able to be summoned. Remember that every KOTR in camelot was a servant summoned by rhongobongo except except for Bedivere. He only became summonable after camelot so it makes sense she only knew about the ones that were heroic spirits

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Fate/Grand Order was a fucking mistake