What exactly is "The Demon Realm" where Dabura comes from?
Dragon Ball Super
Brayden Moore
Wyatt Gonzalez
Never explained outside of being said to be where all the demons come from . Typical toriyama introducing concepts and doing nothing with them. Basically all of dragon ball is like that
Kayden Barnes
The only concern for Toriyama is where he gets the next strong fighter.
Jackson Miller
It's a mirror plane within their overall universe. Instead of a God of Destruction, they've got a God of Salvation who stops the baddies from blowing up planets. Since it's a mirror plane, they've exactly 82 planets and in the case of Universe 7, instead of a cat hakaishin their GoS is a dog. The onɘZ of their Demon Multiverse preserves stuff instead of erasing things, he's also taller than his non-Demon Realm counterpart, Zeno. This is where Dabura, Babidi and Buu came from. It's also the place where Moro's brother, Janemba, currently resides. Zeno and onɘZ made a deal to prevent illegals from traversing across the planes, and just like time travelling, traversing the planes is also considered a major offense. There's only one being that's exempt from these rules, and that's the offspring of Jiren and Broly, who has yet to be conceived.
Leo Long
It's that bottom spindle there
When a core person (what kais are) is born evil, they are sent to there. The dragon Ball heroes games heavily explores their world and population.
Anthony Foster
I...I like Hunter X Hunter.
Brandon Cooper
SSJ3 transformation is still the best moment from the series.
Pathetic imposter haitusfag
Cooper Edwards
It's a Buddhist concept: The realm of the Gods, the realm of the Demons and the realm of the Mortals. When you die, your karma dictates in which realm you'll be reincarnated.
Justin Long
>born evil
The fuck? What about free will?
Cameron Rivera
Wait, but there could easily be stronger fighters than Goku in U7.
The only reason we've never seen them is because Whiss left the job of finding strong fighters for the ToP up to Goku and he chose those he was familiar with.
He left Uub, despite him being stronger than 1/2 of the team.
He never scouted the universe for high power levels and he believed that Monaka was strong, because Beerus told him so.
This means that we can easily get another villain from a planet even Frieza would be scared to screw around with. A planet filled with mortals who wanted to stay off Beerus' radar and/or were plotting to overthrow the GoD's and Zeno from the start and decided to keep their planet hidden like Wonder Woman's Island.
A planet(s) filled with magic users who can create barriers to shield the fighters with their enormous power levels.
At least 5 of the 28 planets can be like this. Frieza wasn't the emperor of the universe at all.
For starters, he wasn't the emperor of Namek even though Namek was canon fodder.
We could have more rivalling empires and planets.
Similar to how Earth has had several empires coexisting and warring with each other.
Hell, Frieza could then be the laughing stock of them all because his empire is on the brink of extinction and because he was defeated by mere monkeys.
They could mock him, because Frieza believed that he was born with the right to rule and felt no need to train because of his natural strength but was forced to after he had his ass handed to him, while the other empires did nothing but value training.
Cold knew about Beerus (the other emperors as well) but we've all seen that Cold was a conniving coward.
Easily the weakest of them all and it would explain why Frieza is so "evil", it's because of shame.
And his obsession with the Saiyans was simply his way of having fun, to distract from the reality that he's worthless compared to the rest and he would kill everybody to keep this a secret.
Enter: Dragon Ball Z2 or Next!
Ayden Peterson
We can have empires vs empires, wars, political intrigue, actual reflections of reality.
We can have planets with actual bad guys and badasses without dumb (repetitive) gimmicks like in Blerghoes or the ToP.
The enemies in the ToP were kind of wack when it concerned powers.
The best fights were between those who didn't have wacky powers (prove me wrong).
The only ningens we can't bring back are Saiyans, because Whiss made it clear that there were only a handful of Saiyans in the BotG
As long as Toriyama doesn't make gimmicky planets (like a pirate planet, a cowboy planet and other retarded shit) we may look at a real gold mine.
And it would be legendary.
The introduction of Cooler:
Cooler gets Frieza to battle the other emperors (yonkous) for supremacy, but Earth's quadrant gets dragged into the battle so the Saiyans join Frieza to protect the Earth and to fight strong enemies
It's a bit of an rehash of Radditz, but that shouldn't matter when done right.
Christopher Gray
There is no free will, everything is predetermined before birth.
You weren't given a choice to choose your parents, date of birth, disabilities, country/ city of birth, your appearance, level of poverty, etc while it are exactly these things that will determine your chances of success or at the very least, how easy it will be for you be successful later in life.
The only choices you're allowed to make are really just picking between the best of bad situations.
Those Kais simply drew the short end of the stick, just like the baby who is born with AIDS.
Jack Ross
Guys... I miss Super...
Ayden Jones
> Gnnn Furiza Sama harder gnnnn
Nicholas Murphy
You never knew how much you enjoyed having it around until it's gone :(
James Gomez
How can you miss something that is still around?
Jaxson Perry
Seething Toyotard
Andrew Perez
>The introduction of Cooler:
>Cooler gets Frieza to battle the other emperors (yonkous) for supremacy, but Earth's quadrant gets dragged into the battle so the Saiyans join Frieza to protect the Earth and to fight strong enemies
See this shit right here is a thousand times more interesting than the shit that's been going on in Super
Nicholas Adams
Enter CUTEhan
Joseph Johnson
Cringe.
Bentley Jenkins
>OP isn't Chadchad
Shit thread.
Hunter Hill
This show is over. We don't know much about the manga, but the anime is over.
Do you think that, Toei is gonna ever explain the fuck up with the universes ranking system, or it's gonna be buried forever?
I'm mean, come on!
Everyone saw the last Tournament between U6 and U7. Including Zeno.
That tournament was dominated by U7 fighters, they DID WON.
Not to mention Beerus is way stronger than Champa .
So you can't say "ningens lost, but the Hakaishin is stronger".
Now how the fuck is Universe 6 is superior to Universe 7???
> If you would say it's TOei's fault, I 'd believe that!
Hudson Mitchell
>J
>Haitus
Pathetic spic.
Ayden Sanders
The newfag aura from this post is so palpable
Owen Perez
Julian Diaz
>intimidated by the mere presence of a Jirenscholar asserting his intellectual dominance
>n-n-newfag!
Quiet, little pet. You were not given permission to intrude upon this den of unmatched mental acumen. QUIET.
James Collins
>known abbreviation throughout the community bad
>t-typo
You aren't worth my time.
Logan Fisher
Fucking based Smartrenscientist.
Isaiah Phillips
SSJ is objectively wrong, you fucking Mexican. Now KNEEL.
Logan Nguyen
Pathetic newfag tryhard
Noah Green
>mfw jiren is just superman if superman was an alien
Isaiah Torres
>quoting my post twice and one is in an usual position
Unironically seething.
Xavier Martinez
>frightened IQlets squirming in the face of a single Jirenscholar's titanic intellect
Quite amusing.
Adrian Hall
You like Jobren, you don't get to accuse anyone else of being an IQlet, you shitty spammer.
Xavier Cox
BASED.
>b-b-but like PHILOSOPHYren m-means you're s-s-stupid
What a jejune little creature you are, a dross, humdrum existence seeking only to cling vociferously to the coattails of great scholars and intellectuals like the Jirenprofessors. Crawl back into the hole whence you came, filth.
Ryan Jones
>if superman was an alien
Jobgetatards everyone
Sebastian Phillips
>seething
How so? I'm enjoying the based Super series Tori and his successor have been doing since 2015, you are the one mad Toei's fanfic was canned a year ago
Lincoln Watson
>promotional book
>officially-overseen anime
Hmmmmm.......
Xavier Allen
>How so?
Because on one even cares for the shitty manga.
>Tori and his successor have been doing since 2015, you are the one mad Toei's fanfic was canned a year ago
Too bad no one cares for whatever they put out though :(
Brody Clark
>jiren is just superman
The actual Superman is weak AF.
Jiren is more like Superboy Prime but far stronger.
It looked as if Toriyama watched Screwattack's Death battle and was like "No, gaijin. What a shameful dispray. I will show you the ULTIMATE BATUUUR"
John Gray
>Because on one even cares for the shitty manga.
>Too bad no one cares for whatever they put out though :(
Cry, then cry some more, then continue to cry, and then cry even more.
Kayden Wood
It's not about battle power, but about how much more advanced the universes are
Jason Flores
>PHILOSOPHYren
Imagine typing this about the most cliche character arc in the history of anime. Just stop trying, this is pathetic.
Logan Garcia
>a promotional manga and an overseen anime
Sorry Juan but we are talking about DB here, not a series where the anime has ever been canon. Go back when you finish your homework
>can't even type "no one" correctly
Yikes, Pedro
>NO NO NOBODY CARES ABOUT IT TRUST ME
I guess that's why they cancelled it last yea-oh wait no, that was the anime.
Xavier Ortiz
>b-b-but he's s-so cliche
As if you haven't read the myriad esoteric tomes of ethereal knowledge the various Jirenscholars have posted here detailing the nuanced and multi-faceted characterizations that came together to craft the most fascinating character in anime history.
Michael Thompson
>ONE arc from two years ago has sold a bit
Kek pathetic.
Xavier Martin
SOB.
Chase White
The anime was far too intellectually-sophisticated to continue. It was starting to trigger sub-intellectual apes like (You).
Joshua Reyes
>this damage control
>number #1 spot is "a bit"
You got BTFO. Kneel and prostrate yourself.
David Hughes
This only sold because of the anime arc's popularity. You won't see it happening for the other arcs.
Austin Flores
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy fuck
This is the first literal cope I've seen.
Christopher Lee
Whimper.
Jonathan Baker
Concession accepted.
Carson Long
That's a nice fansite user, if only fans' headcanon wasn't irrelevant... right?
Eli Hall
>d-d-doesn't count because it's not canon!
>posts non-canon promo posters
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I CANNOT lose holy fucking shit.
Liam Turner
>can't post the same image for other arcs
I'm right.
Nothing compared to the anime's popularity. Some videos on youtube have over 15 million views. It set new records.
Chase Foster
>b-b-but the anime is more popular
The same was true for the original manga vs the anime. Anime is a more widely-consumed medium. However, to say that the manga is not popular and "no one cares" is disingenuous and incorrect, as was just proved in two separate posts. Now concede, admit you were wrong, apologize for wasting my time, and beg for the forgiveness of your superior.
Jordan Perry
>switching IP addresses
This is fucking pitiful.
Nolan Long
I feel unclean posting on the same side of a shitrentard
Isaac Wood
>incomprehensible ESL babble
Anyone else?
Aaron Turner
>popular = good
Yikes. Got kicked from your Facebook group so you had to come here, right Hernandez?
Nolan Nelson
>Jirenfags actually believe that
Superman would still beat anyone in Dragon Ball.
Nicholas Kelly
Canonically can't even beat Yamcha. Cope.
Kevin James
>d-d-doesn't count because it's not canon!
I never said such a thing, Juan, because canonicity isn't a thing for IRL stuff, it's only for information in-universe, "this product is canon" statement is no different from something like "this producted was released at 2015" or "this product is published on the V-Jump magazine", it's IRL information so it's always true, Juan.
Unless you think some fan on the internet knows more than official media, of course
Lucas Morris
LMAO.
Adrian Richardson
>-NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE MANGA I SWEAR!
>+Hey look, you are wrong, faggot
>-B-BUT THE ANIME..!
Josiah Harris
Superman is galaxy level at most. Prove me wrong
Xavier Morales
>backpedaling frantically
>t-t-that's not what I meant
Try harder, little taco.
> it's IRL information so it's always true, Juan.
HOLY FUCK YOU'RE DONE
Screencapped. Never forget that this is the day Toyotacos claimed that "any IRL information is always true".
Nolan Edwards
You claimed the manga was unpopular and no one cared about it and you got proved wrong. Stop trying to move the goalposts and just accept that you got BTFO, you fat beanerspic.
Jordan White
Quoting is not an argument.
NEXT
Nathan White
Compared to the anime, yeah unpopular. And, most people think of it as a gay little side story and wait for the anime, the true continuation, to come back.
>>popular = good
Too dumb to follow an argument, sad.
>too dumb to even use his own cancerous meme
Not surprised.
Why do you think I would do that voluntarily? It achieves nothing.
Ayden Powell
>b-b-but compared to the anime...
>moving the goalposts again
>changing IPs again
Just fucking cope. This is beyond pathetic.
Thomas Morgan
Was talking relative to the anime you strawmanning tracetaroshitter
Zachary Wright
>And, most people think of it as a gay little side story and wait for the anime, the true continuation, to come back.
>most people
The braindead spics in your favela are not "most people" Alejandro.
Noah Ortiz
>B-B-BUT I WAS TALKING ABOUT RELATIVE TO THE ANIME
>no mention of this in the original post
You are fucking over.
Evan Ortiz
>"Too dumb to follow an argument"
>Continues posting about popularity as if it was ever relevant
Holy fucking shit this is too easy.
Lincoln Russell
>Toeipoodles don't know what a strawman is
Imagine my shock.
Jack Taylor
>Holy fucking shit this is too easy.
Destroying Toeilards always is. Usually they just BTFO themselves.
Eli Cook
>Toeipoodles and Shitrendogs are infighting now
Kek
Mason Bailey
>anime vs manga
This has been going on for four fucking years. Are you fat autists not sick of posting the exact same shit in every thread?
FOUR
FUCKING
YEARS
Ethan Sanders
Cope.
Kevin Smith
Have sex.
Anthony Wilson
B-Begitabros...
Aaron Taylor
And as usual, instead of striving to make the threads a little less shit, you just spew the same retarded buzzwords from your dick deposit box of a mouth. I hope you get killed IRL.
Jaxson Martinez
Seething
Jayden Mitchell
Lose some weight and stop shitposting, you fat, ugly virgin.
Tyler Fisher
No one cares about Pedroes, spic
Jason Lopez
What is Jiren's tax policy?
Jason Collins
SSB Goku and Vegeta are stronger than God Toppo, how can this be when SHITrenprofessors say they haven't powered up at all since the ToP!?
Austin Hill
Pedroes isn't canon. INVINCIBLEren the UNSURPASSED is still the strongest. Cope.
John Gonzalez
This is stupid. Cooler is established to have ruled more planets than Frieza, and the manlet himself only controls the north part of the galaxy. Both are supposed to be space realtors and yakuza, not space tyrants
Anthony Butler
>Pedroes isn't canon
nice headcanon
>SHITren is irrelevant
Based
Jaxson Peterson
Freeza is literally called a tyrant multiple times you dumb fucking Superbabby. Eat shit and die in hell.
Cameron Walker
>PHILSOPHYren naysayers are now claiming Pedroes is canon
The desperation is palpable.
Liam Stewart
>nice headcanon
>implying DBH is canon
Aiden Gonzalez
It's because if you are immersed in japanese mythology it doesn't need an explanation.
Think of it like this: if I, a western author, wrote a comic with angels and demons as secondary characters, no one would ask me to explain what Heaven, Hell and God are.
Michael Bailey
Based Jirenscholar.
Lincoln Scott
>Shitrenmong has been spamming Pedroes for the past 3 days even making threads with it in the OP
>a good point is made that base SSB is fighting at the same level as a Belmond tier fighter
>"N-No stop pointing out that the main character has gotten much stronger and is portrayed as such...I-It's not canon..."
Imagine being this much of a broken mess that you come into these threads to masturbate to this shit but then get completely mindbroken when it isn't about your shit character.
Xavier Martinez
>mind-broken Copelycamel thinks all Jirenscholars are the same person
Imagine being THIS fucking mind shattered at the wit and wisdom of the literal smartest posters on the Internet.
Colton Lewis
>explain you how I never said something I NEVER said because you are too retarded to get it right the first time is backpedaling
>official statements shouldn't be considered true ignoring what fans think
Manolo...
Joseph Gutierrez
>B-BUT N-NO WHAT I SAID IS NOT WHAT I MEANT S-SHUT UP
Silence.
>ignoring that you literally said "anything that is said IRL is true"
NEXT
Bentley Carter
>Juan is still unable to tell the difference between his imagination and real life
Okay dude, take another (You) and tell me more about why I should trust you when every official statement says you are wrong.
Jayden Hall
>deflecting
>it's IRL information so it's always true, Juan.
This is the average intellect of a Toyopup.
Isaiah Morgan
Wait so you can't tell me why I should trust your headcanon? I guess I will stick with actual sources, then
Ayden Miller
>still deflecting
Never forget the day a Toyotaco claimed any info you hear IRL is automatically true.
Leo Johnson
Well, they're free to do whatever in the demon realm
Core people aren't really like mortals
Angel Rivera
>tells me to ignore sources and hear his headcanon
>can't explain why
Guys, I think I broke the toeishill again
Luke Evans
>>PHILSOPHYren naysayers
Turbo ESLrendog also found the anti-Jirentard.
Logan Russell
>Copelycamel can't comprehend my complex lexicon
As expected.
Jaxon Bailey
>says that all info you get IRL is true because it's IRL
YIKES
Mason Robinson
Nice concession
Easton Perry
OWIE ZOWIE JIREN SAMA
Henry Jackson
>c-c-concession
Over.
Jackson Wilson
Nice projection
Lincoln Harris
>no u
Concession accepted.
Landon Carter
>UCB has no argument
Done.
Justin Campbell
>newfag abbreviation
Concession accepted.
Michael Cooper
PLEASE DON'T FUCK ME IN THE ASS ANYMORE!
Ryder Kelly
>Anime: turning into a god of destruction makes you big and scary
>Manga: god of destruction is just a title, not a transformation
>Anime: ultra instinct is the most powerful transformation and it makes you more powerful than the gods of destruction
>Manga: ultra instinct is just a technique that makes your body move on its own
And yet some people will unironically defend the manga
Thomas Gray
How do I know you're a spic?
Elijah Barnes
If you wanted to defend the anime then you failed miserable.
Try again.
William Young
Concession accepted.
Ryan Flores
>MUH TRANSFORMATIONS
Ask me how I know you're a Mexican.
Carson Moore
>then you failed miserable
>IESLB
Easton Hernandez
This has to be bait, Toeipedros can't be this lacking in self-awareness
Henry Flores
>filtered
Nice.
Elijah Wright
>manga: X is X is supposed to be
>anime: X is a transformation with a big powerlevel
Thanks for proving manga's superiority once again
Jeremiah Murphy
>cowering behind a filter
Pathetic little sissy bitch. Kek
Nathaniel Butler
>X is X is supposed to be
>IESLB
Jordan Wilson
>Y-YOU FORGOT THE "what" before "X" YOU MUST BE LATINAMERICAN
Whatever makes you sleep at night
Luke Brown
Anime UI is better
Inner peace is something you'd see from nu-shonens, not something you'd see in a classic
Samuel Wright
>damage control
Pipe down, Pedro.
Levi Watson
Cope.
Julian Edwards
Imagine being this much of a braindead shit-slurping Toeitard.
Blake Nelson
Thi doesn't mean that other more powerful emperors can't exist.
We don't know many planets Frieza owns.
We know that Namek is very far away from Earth, but still wasn't under control of the Cold-clan.
We also know that Frieza lost a lot of power when he died, which gives other rulers the chance to stand up and/or expand their territory.
Cooler is a movie villain and not canon, so the statements about him are irrelevant.
When they introduce him, they will give him the Broly treatment and create new lore.
>the manlet himself only controls the north part of the galaxy
Which galaxy? The DB Verse is as big as our universe and our universe has roughly 200 billion galaxies. So, Frieza controlling the northern part of 1 galaxy is literal peanuts.
Nicholas Campbell
>C-c-c-cope
I accept your concession, dog.
Austin Young
>anime UI is better
>because I don't like how UI is supposed to be
Kek
James Green
>I-IT'S BAD BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT AND IT SHOULD ALIGN WITH WHAT I LIKE AND THINK SHOULD BE IN DRAGON BALL
Holy fucking shit, cry some more.
Ayden Barnes
Come here ! Come to India you fat american ! I'll show you who is the boss !! fucking big burger !
Benjamin Flores
James Foster
>poo-in-the-loo ESL starts sperging out in the face of my intellectual assault
Go back to bathing in shit, you currycuck.
Ian Ortiz
>promotional book
DONE
Robert Richardson
> muuuh curry cuck
Shut up big pig !! Come here, I'm waiting fucking coward pig !
Luis Ortiz
>UI isn't supposed to be a power-up
According to whom? Toriyama loves power-ups
Dragon Ball has always been about transformations making the characters stronger
Caleb Peterson
Silence, shit-bathing dog. You fecal-frolicking turd-tankard. SILENCE.
Adrian Brooks
>Dragon Ball has always been about transformations making the characters stronger
Ask me how I know you're a fucking Z-babby.
Tyler Gray
He was calm and silent while he was in UI Omen in the anime as well, dipshit.
When he actually controlled it in MUI he was able to open his mouth again.
That's what mastery does, it makes you able to use something in any way and at any time
Zachary Watson
What a worthless contribution you piece of shit shitren retard
Tyler Walker
>literally no mention of Jiren
Pic related.
Nicholas King
>UI isn't supposed to be a power-up
Stop putting words in my mouth
UI isn't supposed to be a bullshit not!SS form that becomes stronger with rage
Juan Foster
>retarded spic lore picture
Entire post discarded.
Nathan Adams
>mastery of UI means you can go against what UI does
>also implying Goku mastered UI when he can't use it at will
Retard alert
Caleb Gray
>When he actually controlled it in MUI he was able to open his mouth again.
There's no way someone is this retarded.
Levi Morris
Look at the picture. It's obviously just a dumb shitposter.
Jason Bailey
Shame this guy was filler. He could've been an interesting inclusion in Z.
Colton Nelson
RENT
FREE
JICHAD THE REN
Samuel Robinson
lol
Joseph Torres
>mount paozu
nice reference to anime filler, non-canon manga
Michael Russell
Looks like a shittier Tien.
Eli Jenkins
Are you fucking stupid? That's where Goku's house is you goddamn idiot
Blake Bennett
I can recognize you dumbrenmongs by your low quality posts that never add a thing to a discussion and equally cringe memes
Jeremiah Foster
>Superbabbies
Luis Torres
>literally sees Jiren in every single post he disagrees with
RENT
FUCKING
FREE
Brayden Flores
In the manga that place has no name. "Mount Paozu" is what it's called in the anime.
Toyotaro referenced the anime
Anthony Hughes
>Mastered Ultra Instinct is not Mastered Ultra Instinct
Oookay
>Please punch my face
Done
>There's no way someone is this retarded.
Don't tell me your Google translate made you take this literally? "opening your mouth" means "talking".
Levi Wright
>In the manga that place has no name
I love watching Superbabbies BTFO themselves
Daniel Mitchell
>so seething and pants-shittingly infuriated he forgot to link to the post he was responding to
Gabriel Hill
>this level of reading comprehension
See, that's another way to identify you scum
Jeremiah Brown
>sees the Jiren boogeyman ever
>B-BUT NO NO NO THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT
Keep quiet, dog.
Easton Harris
>Mastered Ultra Instinct is not Mastered Ultra Instinct
Yes, mastered UI is mastered UI, and something Goku never got, Juan. The black haired one is "UI Omen" and the white haired one is "UI", "mastered UI" is just mastering Blanco and Goku never did such a thing
Nathan Smith
>Headcanon the spicpost
Lucas Gomez
So fucking dumb you are
Robert Bennett
>they never revealed the name in the manga until years after the anime gave it a non-canon name, finally canonizing it
So? Tori did the same with Broly
Cameron Morris
>IESLB
Jose Gomez
this. so many retards think goku mastered UI meanwhile he fucking loses it over and over
Anthony Martin
Joseph Brown
>no argument
I win again.
Bentley Peterson
You are not worth anyone's time and I really mean it here.
Zachary Mitchell
>No argument
Well, I wasn't expecting any from a brainlet anyway.
>The black haired one is "UI Omen"
They actually renamed it to UI -Sign-, Pedro.
He mastered it for that battle, but forgot how to do it again because the style wasn't appropriate for the weak(er) enemies (bar Heroes) he has been fighting since then. I can be a master of painting, but lose the ability after having not done it in a while or while going through a stage in which I have zero inspiration. Your argument is headcanon and moot.
Brody Smith
Why is heaven a planet instead of a plane?
Daniel Evans
>Juan Pablo can't stop posting his cards
>accuses others of using translators when he can't even understand how UI works (which has been explained in plain english multiple times)
Camden Bell
>ESL is crying over being called out
Cope.
Connor Butler
>ACKSHUALY
Discarded. Cope.
Parker Barnes
>Dai Kaio
What?
John Morris
Enter CHADren.
Daniel Lee
>UI has been explained in plain english multiple times
It's more evidence than you have provided, Pedro.
The statement of being as calm as mt Paozu is from when he was in SIGN.
That's why he was as calm in the manga as in the anime, while being in his UI sign form (he talked a lot more in the manga though).
>Completely mindbroken
Nicholas Baker
this guy
he's canon and his planet shows up in the manga too
Ryan Cruz
>damage control and making shit up
I win yet again.
Asher Cooper
Headcanon discarded.
Thomas Butler
>he's canon
nope
Xavier Mitchell
piccolo mentions him in the buu arc
Zachary Long
Literally seething about the true sequel (正統続編) of the DB manga.
Robert Roberts
>no argument
Cope
>Samefagging NPC without an argument
Concede
Jordan Anderson
source?
Camden Scott
Sign and Omen are both translations of the same word, Kizashi, but thanks for admiting you are wrong and there's no state called "Mastered Ultra Instinct", Juan.
And no, he didn't master shit
Colton Fisher
The fucking manga you stupid Superspic.
Colton Cook
>buzzwords in place of an argument
Yet another victory is attained by me.
Angel Morales
>incomplete UI is when Goku acts like under UI's effects, but once he's in the complete UI state he discards this behaviour, it makes sense!
Maybe if you are retarded
Liam Morgan
>cuckettoEX still salty about the manga being canon
Every time
Brayden Jones
James Reyes
No argument? Hold on, let me get my cards then. KEK
Jacob Cooper
>replies to you with a shitren image in the next minute
>n-not a SHITrentard you psycho!!!
>samefaggs as usual to write pretty much the same thing
This mongoloid is so predictable, holy cope.
Wyatt Carter
>in case anyone is counting. (I am.)
I can't help but laugh.
Adam Wilson
mentioning a name doesn't mean a filler character is canon. we don't know anything about him in the manga
David Cox
>Proves me right about Sign being the new official translation
>Thinks he's made an argument
Cope
>there's no state called "Mastered Ultra Instinct"
Are you retarded?
It implies that he MASTERED UI, Pedro.
Forget Google translate, you need English classes.
>He didn't master shit
So we're ignoring the OFFICIAL cards with the OFFICIAL translations now?
You're really grasping at straws, Pedro.
Xavier Foster
His design isn't canon, the character itself is. You lost. Now cope.
Aiden Long
we know that Tori designed him and even specified his personality for the anime
he doesn't show up in the manga, but it's safe to assume that he looks and acts like in the anime, since it was toriyama's idea
Noah Gutierrez
user
Get the cards
Jacob Clark
>cards
>having anything to do with canon
You are fucking coping.
Joshua Ortiz
>we know that Tori designed him and even specified his personality for the anime
source? genuinely interested if you're right
Blake Gray
>proves me right about "MUI" not being a thing
>thinks he's made an argument
Cope
>pretends burger fan art is actual official material
Juanito...
Hudson Gutierrez
Okay to make sure that these threads don't turn shit we need to make a few rules.
>First of all no manga Vs anime at this point it's beating a dead horse with how shit the manga is.
>Second no Waifufags in these threads it's stupid how we literally don't know anything about them and Waifufags have already shown up fucking shit up. Besides 18 is the superior option anyway
>Third no Torkansufags or whatever they are called.
>PowerLevel fags: fuck you!
>Jobhan fags should also fuck off and stop thinking there boy will do anything other than job.
>Are gtfags allowed? Is it the superior show? NO, HELL NO! Even the worst of super, is still better then the best of gt.
>Furries out!!!
>what about vados and 18 lewd posting? Completely fine and requested!
>Buucucks and Cellfriends should stop shitposting about there irrelevant boys not being in the tournament. If people actually wanted them then they would already be a part of it.
>Copy pasta fags get out!!
>NOBODY LIKES CAULIFLA AND HER AUTISTIC SISTER beacuse they ruined Dragon Ball Super fanbase with public masturbators and femdom fags
>no jobgeta vs lizardcuck
>Don't call all sides cucks and feel superior!
>Finally stop giving these retarded tripfags (You)s
If we all do that then the threads will improve.
Caleb Harris
AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIE
Brandon Perez
>I'm totally more intelligent than an NPC
Cope
>I don't understand the foreshadowing: the post
You're wrong, the only ability UI granted was to be able to move his body faster than he could think.
It allowed his body to move without him having to think about the moves he was going to perform.
Now, having mastered that, does it mean that you can't talk anymore? Does it mean that your emotions should render your fighting prowers useless? Of course not, because that's already what happens without UI. Instead of mind first body later, UI simply implies body first, mind later. The fighter will not perform worse by silly emotions and when Jiren tried to blast the benches Goku deflected the blast without any effort, despite them being equal in strength.
Cope, kneel and concede now
Daniel Perez
What is the meaning of canon?
Manga or animation?
English subs or dubs?
Also, characters that in a canon animation, but at the same time non canon parts and characters of the animation?
This is completely confusing.
Easton Hernandez
>the seething spic forgot to link to the post again
Calm down, Pedro. You'll give yourself a heart attack.
David Cox
>wall of babbled headcanon
Another trouncing is obtained by the victory, which is me.
Henry Flores
JUSTICE
Kayden Butler
Broly needs to be more considerate.
That could cause Goku to have whiplash.
Jackson Ortiz
>>having anything to do with canon
What does official translation mean, Carlos?
>burger fan art
>not official translations
That's not how this works, Alejandro
More NPC spictalk
>No argument
I accept your concession
Blake Kelly
>cards
Discarded. Cope.
Joseph King
>m-muh NPC
1-0.
>muh concession
2-0.
Holy shit. Two victories in a single post. I'm so fucking smart.
Angel Morales
>No argument
I got news for you, buddy. It is an argument. A really fucking solid one at that. Just because you refuse to take the time to do the necessary research does not invalidate shit that everyone already knows is fact. Maybe if you took the time to shuffle your fat fucking sausage fingers around that keyboard you too would understand just how fucking bulletproof my argument is. But you won't will you? You're just going to sit there on your fat, greasy ass with your smug fucking face thinking "oh I got this fucker now. I really meme'd him good!" You don't "got" shit, you insufferable little cunt. You never had shit and you're never going to have shit. I'd google it for you if I thought you had any fucking intention of actually debating me. But you don't and you won't. So why should I waste my valuable fucking time? All you have is your trite bullshit and canned responses. Sorry faggot but that shit isn't going to cut it around here, not when I'm around. Maybe when you grow some balls you can debate me like a fucking man and quit hiding behind your little fucking memes.
Mason James
>that's not how this works
Are you unironically defending fan art as official products? Are you fucking retarded or something?
Official: UI Sign (black) and UI (white)
Spicheadcanon: UI (black) and MUI (white)
Ayden Carter
Look at this esoteric scroll of truth, last 3 times I posted it scared Toyoshits away
>claim the manga is canon because the "canon movie" has SSG
>claim the manga is canon because the "non canon movie" has LSS like the anime and unlike the manga
So? Which one is it, little cuck? Tripping over your own convoluted bait? KEK
Victory! Again!!
Nolan Richardson
>Are you fucking retarded or something?
Yes. I'm actually clinically autistic, and shitposting the same redundant garbage every thread soothes my autism. Fuck off and cope.
Henry Ward
What retards have being saying the movie isn't canon? Cope.
Jaxson Rodriguez
191527784
Why are you fucking retards feeding (you)s to this literal autistic tourist using NPC unironically?
Cooper Hughes
SHITrentards are this stupid...
Jackson Phillips
>191528045
>has LSS like the anime and unlike the manga
But LSS works like in the manga (user's body grows slowly, white eyes even before reach full power), not like in the anime (body grows like if using Grades, green eyes and only white when reaching full power), are you stupid or just a shitposter?
>Victory! Again!!
Shitposter, I see. No (You)s for you, try harder.
Wyatt Richardson
Cope. Cry. SEETHE.
Ian Barnes
>What retards
>IESLB
Discarded.
Ethan Lewis
>no Waifufags
Your
>there boy
Opinion
>then the best of gt
Is
>there irrelevant boys
Discarded
Liam Miller
>literally can't comprehend English
Stop trying to use memes you don't understand, Shitrendog.
Juan Bennett
>responding seriously to an ancient pasta
New fucking fag.
Mason Carter
>designed by Tori
>mentioned twice in the DB manga
>b-but he's not canon...
Brayden Scott
Based
Asher Phillips
> Not counting that Caulifa and "FemBroly" have different hair, face, and outfit
There are ACTUALLY people that think the smug, barbaric girl on the top = the shy, timid girl on the bottom
Remember when people thought Gotenks was Black
Nolan Cooper
Come one, little taco. DEBATE ME. Bring forth an argument or experience a perpetuity of coping and wailing, while at the same time offering free housing for Jiren in your twisted, underdeveloped psyche.
John Murphy
>that pic.
Not my Kale.
Colton Nelson
Literally no one wants to discuss a worthless waifubait character, get lost.
Gavin Wilson
>filename
Should be called "Kale damage control". Because you are completely pathetic.
Grayson Bell
It's amazing how many "DBZ fans" aren't actually Dragon Ball fans at all. You hate the original music, the original voices, and the original dialogue. You only like the bastardization of the series that Funimation released, and you hate their fix of it which is DBZ Kai.
You're not fans at all of this series.
Colton Garcia
This. Burgerfaggots and their shitty VAs are the worst part, literally anyone else is great.
Jaxson Diaz
>canon movie not only has Ribrianne and Kefla remembered as strong fighters by Goku (because he fought them in the canonime)
>it also has the anime exclusive LSS Broly
Fucking over holy shit.
Jayden Cooper
Reminder that this is the one true DB canon:
> Jaco the Galactic Patrolman Manga
> DB Manga
> Yo! Son Goku Returns! Special
> BoG Movie
> RoF Movie
> Champa Arc script
> Dicasty's extended artwork
> Future Trunks Arc script
> Universe Survival Arc script
NOT canon:
> Movies other than BoG, RoF
> TV Specials and OVAs other than Yo! Son Goku Returns!
> Episode of Bardock
> Filler
> Any differences found between the Champa, Trunks, and U. Survival scripts (such as SSB Kaioken, Planet Potaufeu mini-arc, Mastered SSB, Trunks' healing)
> Entirety of DBGT
> DB Videogames (other than MAYBE DB Online)
Debatable:
> DB Online
Robert Richardson
>those hips
God just like my cousin.
Grayson Robinson
her?
Ian Ramirez
>literally Broly with lipstick
lmao
Julian Anderson
>not in the script
>Shintani filler form
Ethan Jones
>no source
>pretends to know the script
Just like that. Alright who's next?
Joseph Reed
Ultimately canon is whatever the original creator says it is. If he hasn't ruled on something that shows up in the primary series/work, or he just quietly helped create it without making some grandiose "THIS IS DECREED TO BE CANON!" gesture, and it isn't contradicted by the ongoing manga, then it's fairly safe to assume it's canon.
Robert Cooper
>dicasty
Henry Cook
>Come one
>IESLB
Brody Edwards
>t.mark
Wyatt Cooper
Sob, weebshitters.
Owen Gonzalez
Who?
Aaron Clark
The moment dbs peaked
Austin Gomez
Eli Allen
>Using shitrentards abbreviations
Kill yourself
Only to reach lows never reached before
Luis Turner
The title is, the design and everything else? Not so much.
Chase Perry
>80 average WPM
Weep.
Levi Gutierrez
>official translation
Nothing to do with being canon, that's for sure. You're as retarded as spics if you think otherwise. Given the Retardku image choice, that's a fine bet. Nigger, you don't even finish your sentences outside questions.
Samuel Robinson
>anti Jiren tacos going at each other
Fucking KEK
Angel Roberts
Matthew Reyes
The final battle between Jiren and Goku is lame as fuck. The timed tournament setting ruined it.
Elijah Diaz
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little ningen? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Supreme Kai School, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Saiyans, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in Potara warfare and I’m the top apprentice in the entire U10 Kai forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across U7 and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Sacred World of the Kais and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, ningen.
Caleb Clark
>genderbent
Asher Rodriguez
I'm merely rebuking him to not imitate such disgusting behavior again.
Isaiah Foster
Is this a bot? Why are these replies entirely irrelevant to the posts quoted?
Asher Cooper
ftfy
Justin Murphy
It seems that i have to save these threads again...
Jackson White
An authentic/legitimate work. So, not Super. The vague outlines getting bastardized two different directions (Toei and Toyo) don't qualify. Just publishing his napkin is more credible. He can declare canon, but is never going to (nor will he denounce official releases that make him 'stay out of ass rape prison' money).
The concept is foreign to Nips (and they lack a word for it sort of like how they struggle with their 'artificial humans' and other limitations of their language as has been pointed out before). Toei fillers don't even have room to pretend. Toyo's tracers like to run with the idea it is at all credible to suggest AT is fully hands-on for the manga (total supervision with nothing unapproved getting through). Nonsense.
He was fast and loose with the canon (source material). Occasionally checking his stupid 'successor' (not even his first tool given that title as I recall) when he dares slip romance into DB (that isn't for raffs at the expense of the community) he gets put his place, but to suggest he isn't largely acting the same as he does with the anime (ignorant until release if even watching to see what they did) is absurd. This while ignoring how this exists in the secondary continuity (certain signs exist as with Piccolo's hands).
Gabriel Bell
It peaked the second YamCHAD got a 1-0 against Vegeta and CHADllin got a whopping 3-0 against him.
Aaron Gray
That's just Vegeta's head on a woman's body. And this? This isn't genderbent either.
Aaron Scott
>Discarded. Cope.
You can objects against the cards all you want, but they still show the official translation.
Cope
>I'm so fucking smart.
I see we have a clear case of the Dunning–Kruger here.
>Stale pasta
I accept your concession
>Are you unironically defending fan art as official products?
Are you calling the cards fan art?
>Official: UI Sign (black) and UI (white)
>Spicheadcanon: UI (black) and MUI (white)
You're completely retarded if you think that I'm implying the bottom. You probably would have understood it better if I had written in your language, but I can't write in spic, sorry.
>Nothing to do with being canon, that's for sure
>Officially licensed translations aren't a thing
Kneel
Blake Fisher
>cranberry is that random soldier killed by a kick of zarbon
How does toyotaro remember shit like this
Cameron Gutierrez
Cope
Jeremiah Hernandez
Strongest vs Strongest
Carter Hughes
>can't even save himself
Gabriel Perry
>Entirety of DBGT
I understand,but I am still not happy about it
(However, it is officially neither canon or non-canon and is debatable)
Eli Watson
Josiah Sullivan
On account of 'references', he actually glosses over the source material (unlike AT).
Blake Gomez
Blake Rivera
>aren't a thing
They're not a qualifier for being canon, yes. Now you know. Write it down on your hand if you don't trust your head.
Lucas Diaz
Adam Clark
Hudson Mitchell
Joseph Martinez
>last thread shows him desesperate for my comeback, still being rent free in his head
Sad
Nicholas Long
This is it for now
Christian Gomez
Ok, this is actually pretty cool. Nice one, Toyo.
William Watson
>baseball
Ignoring this (and the Saibamen debacle), let's go over Krillin again. Kicked by Vegeta for a KO (1-0). Wakes up and happens to be the last man standing (1-1). Then they don't fight anymore. Partly because Krillin just cowers without putting one up (multiple times). Even got made to be a glorified zenkai dispenser (alongside Dende), but Vegeta had to threaten him into attacking (while lowering his own PL so it would do something). Still, even if by luck, he has done better than Goku against Vegeta. And that's canon.
Nathan Bennett
>jijii fanfic
Absolute cringe
Wyatt Peterson
>ran away
Familiar. A favorite of Gokek, too.
Christian Cook
Little picture for a little man.
Jace Diaz
>"i-it wasn't in purpose!
Holy cope
Ryan Ortiz
No, I'm not a bot!
I'm one of the many Gohanfags who don't actively voice my hatred for Caulifla or Kale, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Since they've appeared on the show, they have stolen the spotlight that rightfully belonged to Gohan. Before then, Toei and Toriyama have both hinted at Gohan achieving a new form that surpasses his Ultimate one. But it seems as though they've dropped this for some unknown reason and it infuriates me to the point where it causes me to have mood swings which ultimately effect my personal life. It doesn't help that I come unto these threads and see the constant trolling that's done against Gohan's character by multiple posters, including the Caulifla fans. I know it's bait and all and I should ignore it, but I can't. I genuinely can't. I always attempt to respond to them with reasoning, but they immediately shut me down which angers me further. It made me take a two month break from this site.
In that time, I rewatched some of my favorite Gohan episodes from both Z and Super. From his filler episodes whilst training with Piccolo, to the last filler episode in Super where Gohan fought that one blonde actor dude. It calmed me down, but alas, once I returned to Yea Forums, my despair returned.
I grew a connection with the character unlike any other. I typically self inserted as Gohan, and would and still do feel that I am the character spiritually. This might sound autistic but I can't help but feel as though Toriyama had written Gohan for me. He was the reason why I aimed for higher grades in school. I was pushed around, like Gohan, but inside I had a dormant power that caused me to lash out and overpower my enemies.
But I digress. What Toei and Toriyama have done to Gohan has been completely unacceptable. Purposely setting up for a return of the greatest character in this franchise only to have him sidelined for these Universe 6 Saiyans.
Nicholas Hernandez
>wasn't on purpose
What on Earth are you mumbling about?
Bentley Ortiz
>Literally no choreography at all.
Garage.
Christian Evans
Best girl
Andrew Martinez
what a boring fight, I guess that's what you would expect from two Brolys fighting
Logan Miller
Nice strawman, Raul.
I never said that all cards have characters who are part of the canon continuity.
I said that the cards use the official translations.
MUI Goku and UI Sign Goku are canon and they would continue to be canon had the cards never existed.
The names serve as a snapshot of what Goku went through.
You might have interpret it as if they meant it as the name of the technique or form if you're really retarded, but that's not my problem.
Comprende?
Jonathan Green
SORRY! wrong pic
Luke Garcia
Elijah Perez
>cauliflafags
Christian Richardson
I am the only one that finds caulifla ugly? Like, not even as an insult. She seriously looks ugly
Noah Bailey
Only you gayboy
Luke Sullivan
Witness true beauty
William Garcia
Toei wins again.
Dylan Brown
People that don't like her tend to say that it's because she's obnoxious and she gets too many things for free (particularly SS Grade 3 and SS2 in the anime). I don't tend to see people claim that she's ugly (unironically anyway), but rather that she's just not that cute.
>AITOO
is never true, but it is a somewhat rare opinion you have, I guess.
John Butler
Fixed
Thomas Sullivan
youtube.com
>Make a fan animation with fantastic animation
>It's a complete and total edgefest
everytime
Daniel White
It creates more questions than answers though. why didn't he age in almost 20 years? Why didn't he throw out his helmet in all this time? Why didn't the Galactic Patrol take it off when they put him in jail?
Easton Smith
Brody Rodriguez
Based
Jason Edwards
UNIRONICALLY because he's always looking for things to trace in the original manga.
Charles Johnson
Whatever happened to Dragon ball Absalom?
Wyatt Martin
Who knows, a new part may come out by 2025..
Lucas Lee
but it's so kooool!
Connor Walker
Toyohacko didn't think this through
Hudson Gray
You're so wrong, it hurts.
Ayden Nguyen
I find her ugly because her face doesn't have any details. If you compare her to any other dragon ball female, at least they look fine (yeah, even chichi) but caulifla looks to simple. Her face looks like something out of a cartoon show. (Her design is pretty simple too)
Asher Murphy
oop.
Ian Smith
Well the only real looks at the Demon Realm we have in any official source is from Heroes. We know they have their own Gods, with Mechikabura at the top, who can grant Demon God status to others. They also have their own dragon balls, which get spread throughout time instead of just space.
Bentley Harris
God I wish that was me
Daniel Edwards
Why does that fucking artist draw pan body like if she didn't have bones?
Ryan Butler
>>Manga: ultra instinct is just a technique that makes your body move on its own
This is better, though. Transformations are boring at this point.
Brandon Gomez
holy mother of cringe
Easton Murphy
>Spin off design is better than the actual one.
Why can't this be canon?
Easton Kelly
>oversized hair that is basically the saiyan equivalent of an afro
>stick body
>weird eye shape
Nah, she is ugly as heck at least in normal state. Kefla is so much better it's not even funny,
Nicholas Clark
at the end of the day, she's just a green woman with a tail and pointy ears.
Humans are boring
Asher Butler
Fucking amazing art, better than most of Super, DB, GT and Z!
Pan and Bra
Liam Thomas
Yeah. You explained it better than i did. Kefla looks sooooo much better
Colton Adams
because she's not a baby
Parker Harris
>not something you'd see in a classic
Imagine not knowing what the fuck you're talking about.
Connor Robinson
These niggers don't know about sekiha tenkyoken
Jonathan Peterson
nobody ages in the dragon ball universe
krillin looks the same he did in the namek arc too
he kept the helmet because it serves a lot of purposes (his helmet is shown to be fully functional in the moro arc). The ability to feel strong power levels is important if he's trying to hide from Frieza's army and the Galactic Patrol. It also helps him hear everything said by Frieza's army, since all scouters allow him to communicate with each other
the only real question is why they didn't remove his helmet when he got imprisoned
Hunter Price
Enlighten me since i'm more of a TRANS-AMfag
David Brown
So in G Gundam, there are two types of super modes. One just called Super Mode, which is basically like Super Saiyan where you get really emotional and it gives you a power up. But then there's Hyper Mode, or Meikyo Shisui, where you attain emotional calmness and stillness in the heat of battle, and that gives you a much more significant power-up. It's also tied with the ultimate attack of the School of the Undefeated of the East, Sekiha Tenkyoken.
A big part of Domon's character arc in the second half is learning how to calm the fuck down, because he's pretty high-strung and just has hot-bloodedness on all the time when he fights.
Luke Wilson
Where's El Hermano ?
Jack Rodriguez
>SHITrentard has all those characters living rent free in his head
Logan Flores
Not any of the top tiers. Superman is Buu Arc at best. That's a respectable level, and he's still about level as Goku in canon DBZ. Super makes things retarded, but at this point he should be stronger - but Supers (retarded) retcons have introduced contrivances to weaken Goku in certain ways , like him losing "focus" which was a reference to a non canon DBZ filler scene/
Parker Howard
>the only real question is why they didn't remove his helmet when he got imprisoned
He probably pulled some bullshit like "please it's all I have left and it's broken anyway"
Austin Phillips
>posting the old version
Christian Hernandez
Who care
freeza is been dead for 20 years or something
Jacob Thompson
Why do I even post in these threads? They are so boring nowadays since the anime ended.
Parker Hall
How to deal with Jirenpeasants?
Lucas Hughes
I love that guy.
Aiden Phillips
Post the strongest man in the multiverse
Their kryptonite
The most handsome and fun guy to be around
Son Goku
Ryan Hall
AHHHHH SAVE ME BEJITA-SAMA, HURIZA-SAMA!!!
Kevin Edwards
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Alexander Howard
Oh yeah I remember now, thanks
Isaiah Evans
Enter /dbs/.
Asher Bailey
Goku is the strongest in the multiverse
Luke Foster
>posts an ad of something that never happened
I wonder who's behind this!?
Justin Gutierrez
Enter CHADren.
Ethan Bell
the absolute state
Gavin Smith
Even TV guides know the obvious, Gokek lost to CHADren.
Robert Thomas
Tyler Garcia
KIAI*
Oliver Sanders
does ui open the door to other characters winning arcs? what if krillin uses ui and beats a super powerful foe and saves the day? its not a saiyan power, nor is it a god power even though its treated as such in games. so he should be able to do it. hes been a monk all his life. he should be able to clear his mind
Daniel Johnson
Remember that when god ki was first introduced people also thought that that was the key to let other people "win arcs". Don't expect anything.
Easton Lee
yeah but that god ki was achieved through a magic saiyan ritual. ui isnt race specific
Nathan Thompson
>Tardkushitters get verbally raped by Bejitafags and turn to JirenCHADS thinking they're gonna have better luck.
Oh boy.
Thomas Garcia
>schizo JUANrentardo has to samefag every time
Christian Lee
idgaf about anime/manga debates, I just want more DB. It comes out way too infrequently for how popular it is.
Isaac Diaz
>does ui open the door to other characters winning arcs?
No, nobody besides Goku will get UI. When they want a fodder character to win an arc, they won't use anything like UI or God Ki, that character will simply be SSB level with no explanation, just like they did with 17. It's not like they give a shit about powerscaling anyways.
Oliver Kelly
P-Pikkoro-san...
Gavin Mitchell
at least its like 30 pages or something. it would be gay if it was week sized for a monthly release
Adam Edwards
God I fucking hope we're not doomed to shitty movies every couple years
As irredeemably shitty as the anime is, at least it has proper fucking arcs and not "here's your designated fanservice filler villain GOLDEN COORAH-SAMA - oh look he got defeated by Goku"
Jordan Garcia
No one gives a shit about the manga.
Caleb Rivera
then what the FUCK are you talking about, prick. the manga is infrequent. anything else doesnt exist. you framed your comment as if it was about the manga taking too long for your liking. there is literally nothing else you could be talking about in that post written the way it was
Caleb Smith
HOLY FUCKING BASED HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
Jason Thomas
Gohan de Huesos....
Dominic White
That's some faggot larping as me. And yes, I agree that at least the page count is decent.
William Lopez
That's still like 7 per week.
Aiden Jackson
Remember that DB was serialized/aired for 11 straight years in its original run in the 80s and 90s, once a week without pause and complemented by seventeen movies. As westerners, our perception is probably warped by its air date and you mentally perceive it as a frequently running early 2000s things, but to its native audience it had already worn out its welcome by the time it ended. Its revival was a nice little treat with a few movies, games, and manga volumes, but then it went back to a behemoth with another three-year TV run and six massive AAA vidyas including two ongoing card games that made billions and are possibly the face of the franchise in its home country (notably, games that have no real presence in the west). And this is AFTER they not only released another glut of vidys in the 2000s, but reaired a slightly edited version of the 90s cartoon at regular programming hours for another three years, then a pause, and then another year after that, leading directly into Super. From Japan's perspective, DB has been in the limelight for ANOTHER 11 years after its original 11 year run, so again it's not surprising that fatigue is setting in.
Benjamin Mitchell
Why did Shueisha even commision an anime if they were going to only call the manga canon?
Elijah Mitchell
To promote Heroes and Dokkan Battle.
Landon Smith
Enter Prince Bejita.
Samuel Price
Canon is insignificant to them. Their goal is to make profit, not to make a hyper-consistent story.
Oliver Rivera
11 per week since at least the latest chapter was 45 pages
Jordan Watson
those fucking foreheads.
Oliver Gray
Soon
Carter Lopez
>that giant Vegeta head
Josiah Ramirez
>Soon
...I will be even MORE irrelevant
Jaxon Gomez
Better put a shirt on, looks cold outside.
Dylan Edwards
>instead of teaming up with cooler, freeza remakes cell and uses his unending genetic potential to fight the saiyans
Ryan Cook
See ya Begita.
Adrian Ward
>fatigue is setting in.
>most lucrative franchise several years in a row, including this year
Nicholas Gonzalez
Because you are a retarded newfag that doesn't even know what Shueisha is.
Mason Walker
Are Toeifags being dumb on purpose or are Mangafags just that good at destroying them?
John Bell
I want Cheelai to play with my peepee.
Jack Bennett
newfag.
Charles Allen
I don't know what this thread is about, but Jiren is undefeated in 1 on 1 combat.
Joseph Carter
He lost to his brother when he was a child and that's the only time
Easton Morris
How do you recover from being told to cope by a Jirenbro in DBS threads?
Austin Garcia
>all of reality starts shaking
Everyone: D-did you feel that just now? It's like all of reality is shaking...
>all of space-time itself is quaking
Everyone: W-what could that be? What's is going on...at this rate the Multiverse will be destroyed!
>thunderous footsteps can be heard, the Multiverse is at a breaking point
Everyone: That tremendous energy is getting closer!
>In the horizon, as if illuminated by the brightest stars in the Multiverse, something, SOMEONE can be seen.
Everyone: S-so bright...W-who, no, WHAT is that being...
...
Tyler Sanders
Enter CHADren
Isaiah Peterson
I buy a new Broly themed dildo.
Benjamin Gray
Must suck to have Gohan the irrelevant as the #1 guy he would want to fight if his revival arc were to happen
Tyler Reyes
The CRIMSON god.
Austin Taylor
B to the A to the S to the E to the D
Angel Cook
>why does Shueisha only promote their own published material instead of Toei`s? Why dont they let another company take most of their profit?
I am amazed at the stupidity of these thread dwellers that still think because Shueisha dont acknowledge the anime in their promotions that means its not canon. Do they not realise at all that them doing that would be directly funneling money to Toei and losing themselves profit. Its not a case of what is or isnt canon, its a case of we want people buying our manga and not getting it somewhere else.
Benjamin Russell
Holy based
Disgusting cringe. Toyocucks don't know the actual canon
Based. Weaklings should not talk back to superiors.
Gavin Taylor
Name 1(ONE) good fight in Toyotaro's manga that doesn't use panels from Toriyama's manga
Adrian Rivera
Post that instance where he traced his own arc cover. The Moro arc and that Jack arc.
Elijah Wilson
This is a Jiren thread now.
Adam Edwards
/thread
Brayden Moore
Colton Rivera
BASED
A
S
E
D
Brody Reyes
Cope, you low resolve cuck
Logan Wilson
Enter broly
Jace Nelson
Toriyama can't even remember that Bulma's hair is supposed to be purple
Any reference to old stuff MUST be Toyotaro's doing
I doubt Tori could even remember that Buu had absorbed a kaioshin. The whole arc must be Toyotaro's idea with Toriyama's seal of approval
David Rogers
FUCK CHEELAI, I WANNA BREED WITH KALE AND HAVE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN SON WITH A POWER LEVEL OF 10 BILLION
Eli Lewis
EL JOBREN
Lucas Taylor
Arent saiyans wife beaters? Why would a saiyan go easy on a saiyan female?
Joseph Rodriguez
>I WANNA BREED WITH KALE AND HAVE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN SON
Not how it works, kiddo.
Carson Allen
>Bulma's hair is supposed to be purple
Could you point me the chapter and page where a character points out that her hair is purple?
Joshua Kelly
>you low resolve cuck
Pathetic, run now little clown, run with your tail between your legs, your lack of self esteem is palpable.
Jace Stewart
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Levi Jackson
enter antren
Caleb Johnson
>fucking a mary sue
Based Satan.
Angel Ramirez
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Ian Young
>Not how it works, kiddo.
Assuming that two lssj cant create another lssj not a standard saiyan because it never has happened before
William Ross
Stop assuming.
Owen Sanchez
No you
Ethan Walker
Stop being rude.
Asher Stewart
chichi version when
Jordan Fisher
Your saying that two lssj cannot create another lssj offspring even though it has never happened before.and you’re assuming it can’t happen?
Hunter Watson
God, LOOK at this fucking... TITAN.
Like a giant oak tree he stands resolute in the face of the winds kicked up by KEKarots pitiful "ultimate attack", ready to take it head-on.
Look at this amazing physique.
Bentley Parker
That's right, you got a problem with that?
Gabriel Perez
Cell is a warmachine in a sense. He got the spotted camouflage to give him even more of a military feeling.
Brody Baker
And I’m saying it’s possible that two lssj can create lssj offspring
Josiah Thomas
*ahem*
Gentlemen, I have a quick announcement to make
FUCK JIREN
Brandon Fisher
Stop posting garbage from cuck jiji
Aiden Harris
GOTEN SOON
Henry White
SILENCE.
Jeremiah Perry
>Goten.
Who?
Christopher Reed
Brandon Sanders
reminder that the anime was canceled.
Sebastian Rogers
CSSB Goku vs Fused Zamasu
Nathan Howard
Legendary SS only happen once in a thousand years, if it were a hereditary trait you would have an entire bloodline of LSS by now.
Grayson Nelson
So what are some of goku's BEST outfits and what outfit is iconic to a specific transformation.
For example, I think his xeno outfit is the best looking one, though it could be better. And I think his saiyan saga gi is the only one for kaioken
Henry Williams
>So what are some of goku's BEST outfits and what outfit is iconic to a specific transformation.
My favorite Goku outfit is the blue gi he had at the end of the manga/Z.
Dylan Williams
Adrian Turner
I really like his farmer outfit from super
Ian Roberts
Nolan Sanders
Based GODlyGOD
Logan Russell
When did Broly became such a meme character that only fusions can defeat him?
Adrian Collins
uchiyama did nothing wrong.
Kevin Butler
When someone mentions Broly she's always around...interesting!
Easton Sullivan
Yes but zero fighters as strong as a God of destruction, so essentially pointless. Only someone like Moro could become as strong as Jiren.
Zachary Harris
CHADFORCE WW@
Angel Wood
>blue-skinned thot
Gabriel Rivera
Her real husband
James Brooks
He traced some panels from Goku vs Freeza
And the most famous shot was traced from a video game intro
Gavin Hill
And their actual offspring
Mason Hernandez
right here godren bro
Logan Lopez
She's not a kai
Christian Brooks
Is SSJ3 stronger or Golden Ape?
Christian Harris
Makaioshin are just evil kai, right?
Anthony Robinson
We don't know as it is not thoroughly established in the canon, but supposedly Dabra was its king before he was corrupted by Bobbidi.
In the extended universe, there are said to be Shin-jin (the Core People that make up the creation gods of this world) born on a certain world. Shin-jin with pure hearts get to stay in the godly realm, with a lottery system set up in place to determine future Kaio and Kaioshin. Many Shin-jin become attendants or stay in school waiting for their chance to be Kaio or Kaioshin. The Shin-jin that ultimately get chosen become Kaio. The Shin-jin born from the rare golden fruits have the most priority of being Kaioshin and are the supreme beings; however, some Kaio such as Zamasu can still be Kaioshin if they show a lot of talent.
Some Shin-jin, however, are born with evil and corrupted hearts; they are forced into the Demon World. (It baffles me why Zamasu of all people isn't a Makaio but whatever.) The primary denizens of the Demon World are demons (presumably corrupted Shin-jin that aren't selected to be Makaio). The corrupted Shin-jin that are chosen become Makaio, with presumably the corrupted Shin-jin born from golden fruits being Makaioshin.
There is some reason to believe that Dabra is either a Makaio or a regular demon; most likely the former. Similarly, Dabra's sister Towa and nephew Fu are also presumably Makaio. No actual Makaioshin exist in the canon yet, but in the extended universe: Demigra and Mechikabura, who were both in Dragon Ball Heroes (the arcade game).
Then there are demons such as the one who killed Jiren's parents and master, who are said to have powers that not even Angels such as Marcarita can negate.
Benjamin Perez
More like jobforce lmao
Oliver Lee
Will I EVER lose an argument? Do I even HAVE an intellectual peer???
Owen Turner
>More like jobforce lmao
Juan Richardson
Hi, I just cucked KEKgang
Luke Sanders
youtube.com
ENTER CHADnemba
Juan Turner
Basednmba
Benjamin Price
>muh Toeishit filler villains
>NOOOO DONT USE ANYTHING FROM SUPER THAT MIGHT CONFUSE OUR BOOMER PLAYERBASE
FighterZ is such a cringeworthy game
Dominic Bennett
Bulma's considered a champion of earth?
Owen Harris
Based GODly is literally the Alpha and the Omega of the entire DB franchise, he gets the first and the last DLC slot!
Lincoln Cox
>What is Blue Goku, Blue Vegeta, Goku Black, Hit, Zamasu, Beerus and the upcoming blue Gogeta and DBS Broly
kneel
Anthony Edwards
>supershit
anything beyond zamasu is dogshit and hes already in
Nicholas Wilson
Adam Green
and jiren
Daniel Bailey
Her inventions litteraly saved the day. Without her Dragon Ball radar, she wouldnt have stumbled upon Goku and DB wouldnt have happend.
Landon Thomas
Golden Freeza
Jacob Wood
Also DBS 17
Xavier Price
He got nerfed so bad I forgot he was in the game
Isaac Gutierrez
They focus way too much on irrelevant characters, who the fuck cares about Nappa?
I suspect that they are taking so long to release them because they wait for the dub to catch up since they honestly think murricans only watch dubbed Super, so they had to wait until the dub reached Zamasu arc etc.
Liam Anderson
SHITren is meant to be shit in the game, no one wants to be forced to buy unpopular characters just because they're good.
David White
>no female
Based
Austin Watson
They just took the relevant villains of each arc in DBZ
>Saiyan arc: Nappa and Base Vegeta (no idea why Raditz is no where to be found)
>Namek arc: Ginyu Force and Freeza
>Buu arc: Fat Buu and Kid Buu (also using Super Buu moves)
>Battle of Gods: Beerus
>RoF: Freeza comes with a Golden form special attack
>Multiversal tournament: Hit
>Black arc: Goku Black and Zamasu
>ToP: Jiren
It just so happens that DBS has less villains
Oliver Fisher
Based
>Toei Goku
>Toei Vegeta
>Toei Frieza
>Toei Gogeta
>Toei Vegito
>Toei Jiren
>Toei Broly
>Toei Future Trunks
>Toei Zamasu
>Toei Krillin
>Toei Yamcha
>Toei Tien
>Toei Piccolo
>Toei Chiaotzu
>Toei Yajirobe
>Toei Roshi
Cringe
>Toyo Goku
>Toyo Vegeta
>Toyo Frieza
>Toyo Gogeta
>Toyo Vegito
>Toyo Jiren
>Toyo Broly
>Filler goat
>Toyo Zamasu
>Toyo Human Chads
>Toyo Piccolo
>Toei Kefla
>Toyo Kefla
>Toyo Cutegang
>Toei Cutegang
>Toei/Toyo Adult Gohan
Joshua Ramirez
Dyspo Dyspo
Anthony Turner
>when you hear bejita is about to kiss your wife and you're not there to watch
Ryan James
Superman Prime One Million would reduce Jiren to atoms within a microsecond.
Carter Gray
Rumors say that Jiren got that strong because he could pay for the best trainers with all the money he saved by not paying rent.
Ryan Kelly
>needing transformations
pathetic
Wyatt Harris
I wish I could be like SuperChad...
Xavier Cox
>strawman
>various ESL babble
>every sentence deserves its own paragraph break
I don't know about all that, but "official" doesn't mean "canon". They are not equal terms/concepts. GT is official. It is not canon. Super is official. It is not canon. Is this too difficult for a smooth brained Chestnut? Also, why are you so tsundere for your fellow spics? What sort of faggot are you to even bring up cards, anyway? Nigger, that shit is gay. You keep carrying on, but you aren't listening. I'm not interested in your shit hobby. Just that you learn the terms in question. You act like official translation makes something canon. The dubs are official translations. The original JP version, too. And they're full of non-canon bullshit.
Brayden Johnson
N-NOOOOOOOO
FREEZA-SAAAMMMAAAAAAAAAA....
Gabriel Harris
>comicreliefags have to pretend that was Weakza instead of suicidal Bejita
Sad just like that 5cm lizard.
Jacob Perry
Raditz is shit
Jason Bennett
Is Dabura the most underrated DB character?
James Brooks
Lad are you stupid?
Henry Butler
Easton Collins
>dub is finally on the last 10 episodes
i guess i'll watch
let's see how awful funimation handles these episodes
Jack Kelly
Who?
Brandon Evans
are you?
Jacob Richardson
>Block shading
>Gohan in his gi with Chad hair
False advertisement
Lucas Jones
a bit.
Ethan Lopez
>kryptonite
>posts Goku
Begging for it. I have no doubt that even upon reaching triple digits in age, Vegeta will just keep wracking up those free wins off this clown of an MC.
>most handsome
>ends up with Chi-Chi
I wonder about that.
>fun
If you're into retards.
NOTE: What's with the shit format?
Aaron Rogers
...
Nolan Kelly
>forgetting the MC
Carter Myers
>says this
>Gokek still constantly jobbing
I suppose if he can't insta-kill with a 33% power advantage (or even 77%), it can be so even as he jobs (often to himself in one form or another). Vegeta finishes a foe in one-hit with less. Just ask the Dodo. Might not have to be so if he wasn't using a trash move like Kamehameha still. Tragic.
Jeremiah Jenkins
who could be behind this post...
Jacob Morales
Cope, Kekflacuck
Daniel Barnes
>tfw SHITren is the weakest character in the pack and the worst character in the game
Lmao at who bought him.
Aaron Wood
>Not even an El Hermano color scheme
Even more trash
Jackson Bailey
but Videl is trash
Adrian Brooks
>it's true
holy shit
Joseph Wood
>SHITren is the first and the weakest
>GODly is the last and the strongest
What did they meant by this?
John Davis
Next season...Moro will take over the competitive scene
SSS+ tier
Kevin Jones
>voredroid
>a-tier
Logan King
>next season
she's in
Charles Sanders
>tomboy
Chase Nguyen
He won EVO so his tier list is officially the best one.
Jace Martinez
Which reminds me, some retard was jerking off Frieza's known ability to survive in sorry states/conditions. Another pointed out Trunks fucking Cold up with a simple blast to the gut (taking all the fight out of him) regarding matters of PL difference (leading to quick kills). Where was it then (not being the main antagonist certainly hurts on that front)? It being his 'second restrained form' has no bearing (no talk of special perks beyond PL for the various forms). Canon tells us clearly that they are about equal despite this.
This is why DBM insists he can become far stronger than Frieza though we technically don't know that said state isn't his base. Frieza being a mutant (being a family of his kind exception to the rest) that was born in a higher base isn't out of the question (reverting to ancestral forms). The only issue with explaining things this way would be the 'third form' (were Cold his grandpa, it would be a more neatly handled matter).
Anyway, back on point. Frieza brought daddy figuring he could help if it came down to it (willing to use Plan B even before Super). If his limit was really in the ballpark of the restrained 'second form' Frieza used, there is no way he would think something so retarded. At the same time, he keeps saying he is the strongest (not his father). Sort of implies that pops can't go to higher forms, but his power in that state is similar to this augmented cyber lizard. Picture related.
Brandon Taylor
He also lost to a gay, furfag nigger who switches games every couple months (unlike him who breathes and shits FighterZ)
I don't know how he can live with that humiliation
William Bailey
Austin Flores
Enters 18.
Jaxson Bennett
>Same exact garbage thread
Shitrentards are so limited
Pathetic as always
Adam Garcia
Be it a big brown boy or a little one, there is no escape from 3-0. AT wills it.
Camden Turner
Xavier Brooks
Humoring official modifiers, SS3 is noted as x4 of SS2's x2 of SS1's x50. It is x400 of the base.
Golden Ape is noted as Oozaru with SS as I recall. That being x50 with x10 for x500.
SS4 is just moonbeams, so I don't know why it follows SS3 with official modifiers (x10 of that to be x4000). But then, SS3 doesn't seem like it should have anything to do with SS2, either (Other World nonsense form with insane ki drain).
Ryan Hughes
homo
Joseph Baker
Beerus, Golden Freeza, Hit, Black, Fused Zamasu, Jiren, and Broly are already in the game, as are SSB Goku, Vegeta, and Vegetto, plus Ranger 17.
Christopher Peterson
Its wholly possible that ss3 is a false form like how vegeta thought he had gone past ss1 by buffing up. Maybe it's so ridiculous looking and taxing because its incomplete
Easton Baker
That's my understanding. Kai (fruit people) of the Makai realm (designated evil zone). The lower realm. There is nothing backing it, but Broly jabbering about being a devil/demon in tandem with his LSS form giving ki gathering seems like it would help should the Lower Plane work inversely of the good kai's territory (whereas SS3 ki drains to exploit the Higher Plane). His mother is unknown, but I wouldn't want them to say he's a hybrid with someone of the likes of Towa. Just being a mutant that happens to have a form like that would be enough. It isn't like they've ever even said the Makai drains ki just to be in it (for non-demons). Might have been neat were it so.
Joshua Flores
>He also lost to a gay, furfag nigger who switches games every couple months
Hey I didn't know SF was a Jirenbro!
Owen Cook
>baffles you
He doesn't view himself as evil. He didn't even start as such. He just has a warped sense of good (and became corrupted later). That the others couldn't take notice of it and properly address the matter is another story. Tea bitch should have been sent packing there, but Super doesn't even humor the place (not even in the anime).
NOTE: Good thing a demon like Dabura didn't have King Piccolo's ability to send your soul into Limbo upon death. Also, where is "Abraca" in all this?
>demons beyond angel powers
I don't recall this.
Christopher Rogers
Not so long as you stick to absolute canon facts. The truth is the strongest.
Jack Morales
Might explain why it is such a brutal failure. We'll never see a day it gets properly finished even were it so, sadly. Ultimately, it is doomed to needing a dead body and the Higher Plane. If I recall right, GT had it be that having a tail helped offset this somehow, but it wasn't a full solution for the ki drain.
Xavier Sullivan
she kept the outfit for the occasion? cute!