Fate Stay Night 15h Anniversary

shit. just got back from work. am i late? what did i missed?

Septem anime adaptation announced.

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>15years since 2004
where did it all go

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I like what I see so far

nero best saber change my mind.

>still no Fate route adaptation
Phew. Filthy fucking secondaries don't deserve experiencing Best Girl's route.

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Deen was a fine adaptation as long as we're talking about romance scenes. There's nothing else of value in that route.

>summer pockets
Naw, FUCKING NAW!

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>we'll never get a Kotomi route
>kotomi would be the only person able to properly explain the multi-verse theme in the show

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>kotomi route
Fuck, Kotomi after, am tired and Retarded, excuse my autism

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I liked the music and atmosphere better in DEEN, they dropped the ball on everything else though

I want a fucking Shinji route. Come on, Nasu

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That and the F/SN Dresses figures. I have no hope for Type-Moon alone to produce anything original at this point.

He got one, in the new Prisma ova

Any Fate adaptation that would happen now would have to be reworked so hard that it may as well be an original series. What is there to even do with the original route that would necessitate a remake? No, it wasn't the prettiest, but we're not talking a 2010 movie level of "this seriously doesn't even cover the story" level of fuck up.

you are the dumb secondary nasu already stated in 2015 that Fate route is not becoming a thing because DEEN already exist, this is also why he added some her scenes in the UBW anime,

Though that OVA does look hilarious; it doesn't count.

What the fuck did I say that made me a secondary?

everything
this franchise is dead, the fans are also dumb

Based contrarian retard

>Maybe we will even get a Fate route
Not gonna happen. Give up finally.
>or HA anime finally.
Yep, I can see that coming. Still WHERE IF FUCKING GIRLS WORK!

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We eventually will get it, story is complete so only ufotable needs to animate it

I know, just how many times they push it away for sake of another Fate adaptation. I pretty much expect HA being also announced before.

Has anything worth caring about been shown?

See . That's all.

You mean hours upon hours of Shirou being obnoxious as fuck and pointless exposition dumps that are followed by characters repeating said exposition dumps? Oh no the horror. Literally the only good scenes are the church basement and when Illya stays in the Emiya household after Berserker gets mogged by the one of the dumbest asspulls in the franchise

I liked the ending and final fight.

The franchise has been eclipsed by its spin offs for over the decade. That's all it is at this point.

The main FSN story is done. It was done in 2004. Arguably 2005 with HA. Like, what else is there to do other than have it be eclipsed?

Proper Sequel?

Only way to do that justice would be to write a story following Fate, UBW, and HF respectively. Like, what happens to Shirou down the line in each.

I don't think that's an endeavor Nasu would ever want to try and tackle, though.

The only part left to write about is the dismantling of grail 10 years after.

I hope we get an official english release of the VN

Takeuchi is a lazy fuck.

We all know that the Fate route has problems but for newbies it's a great entry. We've just seen/heard all the exposition 1000 times now and so we're more critical about it 15 years later. If you think about the route from a newbie's perspective (few have had the privilege of doing this) it's a pretty good route because it does a good job of doing both:

explaining Saber and her struggle
explaining the dynamics of the world

The only issue is that they could have done more of the former in expense of the latter, but for it being the first route intended to be played they couldn't afford that.

If they re-did the Fate route it would probably have a lot of added stuff about her history at the beginning, like a whole 4-5 episodes of basically what is covered in Garden of Avalon. If they did this it would be hugely successful, because people like a lot of those characters now. It would be easy money and I could see them actually doing this, because the plot is already pretty much written and there isn't really enough story in GoA alone, so they'd probably tack it onto the adaptation of Fate in lew of the exposition of the world dynamics.

My King is beautiful.

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I seem to have missed it, but apparently there was nothing really of note?

>Maybe we will even get a Fate route or HA anime finally.
Only thing I want to see is Rin being the protagonist and getting Saber as her Servant while Shirou would be dead at the start of it and not present at all.
A Fate fan can dream, but it will never happen, it's obvious we will get another mobage anime with boring male MC will be done.

>hating Shirou
Secondary detected.

Shirou is great protagonist.

All informations in that stage are posted here Other than that, nothing else.

I'm not hating him, I'm fucking bored of him already.
After so many anime and movies and even his prominence in Illya spin-off he just makes me barf whenever he shows up.
He is mile better than male MCs we got from mon=bages who are complete even more boring trash, but enough is enough.
How much you can milk one fucking boy as MC?

Secondaries, everyone.

>15 years
>still no Tsukihime anime ever
For what purpose?

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>GIRLS WORK
It's called Fate/Requiem now.

I know right!? Whoever made the Unlimited Blade Works anime must be a hack and a thief because he just stole the characters from the Studio Deen Fate/Stay night anime and now someone else is doing it again with the Heavens Feel movies. I guess originality really is dead huh?

Shiki's seiyuu is voicing Marisbilly now duh

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I'd genuinely be for alternate interpretations of FSN, and I do kind of like the idea of a "what if we stuck with Rin after the prologue?" premise, but Shirou is a very important part of this franchise. I don't know how anyone can complain about him, when we've got three times as many Sabers floating around.

And granted, I'm mostly for alternate interpretations because I just love these characters, and I know damn well we'll never get a proper sequel, so the best we can hope for is what basically would amount to "what if?" fanfiction.

that'll be done by sanda if it's done anyway

Well Shirou is important so it would be actually interesting to see what if scenario when he died in the fire years ago, Archer would not exist too. And Rin pulling out Saber as her servant would be just pleasing to the eyes, maybe once Lancer would not be killed off and stayed to the end.Or make Rin get Gilgamesh.
Only problem is that for most FSN fans Saber and Rin are Shirou/Archer property so they just don't want to see them getting paired with someone else than him.

Rin and Gilgamesh have great compatibility and would probably win the war. This is assuming Kirei doesn't have him too, obviously.

>Saber and Rin are Shirou/Archer property
Based, women are just property, don't you know?

>Only way to do that justice would be to write a story following Fate, UBW, and HF respectively.
There are ways how write overal sequel to all routes, if you are little smart storyteller. Still would be interesting to see even individual follow-ups as you say.
>I don't think that's an endeavor Nasu would ever want to try and tackle, though.
Well, Nasu once said, that he doesn't write personally, can still write others for him. Let's hope that at least this will be case.

Nope, it's clearly different story.

Will they show Babylonia trailer today?

Both stories take place in weird towns.
Both MCs are of the exactly same age.
It's suspicious.

They revealed Camelot PV and Babylonia ep 0 (only for people that go to Fes) in FGO anime stage. It seems like Babylonia ep 0 is really emotional based on the reaction of the guest and people who went to Fes today (they're all crying).
Young Roman and Mashu are cute anyway. We got a backstory of Romani when he still had short hair and travelled to warzones as a doctor before being a staff at Chaldea as well as Lev, Marisbilly and Mashu regarding the Demi-Servant project (Mashu tried to attack Marisbilly and run away but obviously she failed). Also A-Team in Chaldea uniform too, nips said Ophelia looked beautiful.

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Is there any chance we'll see Babylonia ep?

Here's Camelot trailer
youtu.be/HbZqEwVSQcI

What ep? If you mean ep 0 then we will probably have to wait until October tho

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So that episode was about Mash?

It's about Chaldea as a whole back in 2010, but yes it also focused on Romani - Mashu relationship and their past. They mentioned previous singularities too, which would be helpful for animeonlies i guess.

I thought they showed Gil's past when meet Enkidu or something but it's another boring Chaldea staff bullshit.

Hope that Bedivere really will be the MC and not self-insert Guda for once.

It's kind of Grand Order/Zero though. It seems like they also show the scene when Marisbilly and Solomon won the HGW and Marisbilly's death too.

>It seems like they also show the scene when Marisbilly and Solomon won the HGW and Marisbilly's death too.
Now that's interesting. I want to see Solomon in anime at last.

it's aparantly gonna be from his pov

What are your expectations for the Camelot movie?

Lot's of fujobucks. It will be even more profitable than Promare.

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Nope, just Meteor being Meteor.

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Camelot looks like the Mont Saint Michel from afar.

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FUCK YOU. Because of
>Fate Stay Night
And youtube link i immediately thought about saber route

What's wrong with DEEN version? It has everything the original route had and, additionally, it corrected Caster/Assassin subplots (Fate route dropped the ball on that part).

Nothing, Sakura in bondage costume is a miracle of the universe and is the perfect costume for the sexually dominant slut that she is.

This but unironically

I just want it to include Sanzang and Serenity. No need to worry for the rest since most likely the final scene with Bedivere and Excalibur will be perfectly animated and have stains of Nasu and Takeuchi's fluids all over.

I'd love to see a Rin/Gil story.

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>wanting the worst parts of Camelot
What is wrong with you?

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I'm a waifufag. Like any Fatefag that isn't braindead enough to take the franchise seriously.

We have a prophet over here

Nero is the most fucking retarded part of the Fate franchise. What next, is Hitler going to show up as a misunderstood saberface?

They have great compatibility
Rin = big spender, requires lots of gems
Gil = actually unable to run out of money, has some of the finest gems in the world

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youtube.com/watch?v=67njJLl4sRM
Just watch this instead

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I really hope ufo does Fate after HF, and does Last Episode in an OVA afterwards

They're rereleasing DEEN F/SN, no way they'll do Fate.

>implying that's not what really happened

no they didn't because they killed by gil if you actually read the FHA retard

It'd be retarded of them to not do it

...I need more.

Why? There is already a decent Fate adaptation, plus DEEN F/SN is still very popular in Japan, the main market. I doubt they want to step on their toes for now.

All I got, sorry

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Adapting two of the three routes but not the first one, the one that properly finishes saber's journey that they started in their prequel is just stupid honestly

Didn't Nasu said something like Fate route would be possible, but he would have to re-write some things?

awful taste
shirou being swallowed by the Grail and his projection against Gilgamesh are two of the best moments in the whole VN, nevermind the other moments like saber vs rider or saber's first projection against berserker

Nasu already said he'd revise the hell out of it if it were remade into an anime again.

Nasu's recently been talking about wanting to redo the Fate Route (Likely to fit more with End of the Dream.)

Beyond that nothing, I think it's just him sorta just regretting how he route the Fate Route.

I would much rather a loli Rin x Kirei story

>loli Rin being taught by Kirei with the weird rich blonde kid lazing around

And then they all fuck

Already made obvious that it won't gonna happen. Give up.
It would be more retarded for them to do it when they can do original stuff that is more likely to sell than an outdated thing like Fate route. Especially if one it's adaptation already exist.
First again, Fate route was already adapted. Secondly, if they really wanted do Fate route, they had clear chance when whole project started. Now it's out of point doing introductional route after they just finish grand finale route.
Nasu said, that Fate route would require heavy rewrite to be still relevant at this point.
Only mention, he made during an interview for UBW anime and it was just to explain why they choosed to skip route in early production. There are no serious for Fate remake.

Don't try to make it sound like you're making an argument based on logic alone, when you just want fate/LE to be adapted because you like it.

Maybe they're saving the Fate route for last, I wouldn't be surprised if Takeuchi requested for it to be the last one adapted. Sure it's the best most boring, but it's route of Saber and she makes serious $$$$$ no matter what.

It boggles the mind that there is still no HA adaption.
It's the closest thing we will ever come to a unified route but nobody in charge seems to care much for it.

Someone please redpill me on Camelot and Babylonia.
I have heard they are decent/good but i refuse to play F/GO

> original stuff that is more likely to sell than an outdated thing like Fate route
imagine believing this

>new content with saber would sell less than old content with saber
imagine believing this

you just agreed with me you fucking idiot

No, Fate/Stay Night is awful

>when you just want fate/LE to be adapted because you like it.
I wouldn't be wanting an adaptation if I didn't like it, that doesn't mean there's no good reason for making one.

>Maybe they're saving the Fate route for last, I wouldn't be surprised if Takeuchi requested for it to be the last one adapted.
Interview for UBW was clear on this regard, and it would not really work. Fate route is primarily introduction into overal the plot without telling anything important. It would be huge downhill, if you went with that after HF. Only way would be heavy rewrite Fate route into something completely new.
>it's route of Saber and she makes serious $$$$$
Serious $$$$$ would make Saber alone in anything new. They don't really need remake known story.

Fate route adaptation won't happen.
Fate route adaptation shouldn't happen.
I say this as a diehard saberfag.

I don't want to see them ruin her or sully her image further. She comes from the golden age of anime, when VNs were unique cutting edge story telling mediums. VNs allowed her character struggle to be fully fleshed out via her relationship with Shirou. Anime couldn't do this nearly as well and so they shouldn't even try. The secondaries are also awful and don't deserve her.

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Fate route is old content at this point. Nobody except blind Saberfags will care about that. And even they will appreciate if new story with her will be made, so there is no really proper reason for any wise producer to invest their money into another Fate route.

i don't remember the third director but three of them that worked at ufotable were interviewed. miura and sudo were two of them. they wanted to work on hf while the other guy wanted to work on ubw. not even the directors want to touch fate.

Not everything has to be action, FS/N is focused on shirou and saber's character, which is why it's great.

>They don't really need remake known story.
It's easier to make something which is guaranteed good than something which can easily be shit

>so there is no really proper reason for any wise producer to invest their money into another Fate route.
You are delusional

How would adapting F/HA even work? Shirou still needs to pick one love interest.

>Not everything has to be action, FS/N is focused on shirou and saber's character, which is why it's great.
Action or not, the nature of being introductional route is too apparent on Fate route story, to be sold after HF.
>It's easier to make something which is guaranteed good than something which can easily be shit
"good source" can never guarantee good result. That's something you should know. If not, then is a question who is there really delusional.
>You are delusional
If you worked in the industry, you would talk differently.

why do people want FHA anime, holy shit how about use the fucking brain for once because FHA wouldn't work as anime, the story only works as VN mechanic and it's even longer than a normal route

UFO has already shown they can produce good results, and as you said Saber is guaranteed money

UFO + Saber + guaranteed good material = money, Fate being introductory is irrelevant, people would pay for it.

>How would adapting F/HA even work?
Just set it as an after-story to the trilogy.

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Inclusion of pictured scene and Sunny Days in UBW adaptation was already clear hint that there are zero plans for Fate route in UBW at this point.

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Fate/Prototype when?

There are some legit really great scenes that could be adapted. It would sell for sure.

Fate being introductory is one of key things here. It means, that it's out of point right now. As I already said, if it supposed to happen, it should happen before UBW. Now it's late. And will be for foreseeable. Maybe one day in very far future (if ever). But not now. No proper producer would fund it, unless would be a hardcore fan of story itself, which is clearly not case of Ufotable. Just read that interview.

Cute and canon

Just adapt it as an episodic sketch SOL anime like Cooking or Carnival Phantasm, with interspersed plot.

Honestly if they want more animated Seiba they should just make an anime expanding on Garden of Avalon, and it can end with the beginning of Fate.

Is your argument about narrative or money?

Narrative wise they've shown they don't really care by doing F/Z then skipping Fate, despite Fate fleshing out Saber and Shirou and serving as a prelude to UBW, and money wise all three routes would make a lot more money than a spinoff (excluding gacha)

That's the best part tho.
They could technically make an anime original ending where Luvia wins the bowl and nobody could really be mad about it because muh timelines and shit.

Narratively they solved the absence of Fate route by adding various elements into UBW anime, and more connect it with their Zero adaptation.
Financially you strongly you overestimate the marketability of Fate route.
Expanded Garden of Avalon has far greater chance to get anime than Fate route. From every way it would be productively more lucrative investments.

>FHA wouldn't work as anime
Yea because that sure stopped them from adapting CD dramas, beat em up games and fucking cooking recipes into anime from.

Christ fuck, why is it always retards with mental disorder that call other people stupid.

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Nasu said that he's unhappy with a few things he wrote in Fate, maybe we'll get a slightly altered fate route by ufotable?

They didn't solve anything, I really don't see how anyone could like the UBW or Zero anime without having previously played the Fate route, they don't do a very good job of painting Shirou or Saber's character, it's like opening a book halfway through.

Why would it not be marketable?

F/SN doesn't work very well as anime too, but it didn't stop them.

>Capsule Servant Mobage, 2019 release.

There is pretty strong connection between UBW and Zero anime, that move key elements of Fate route into one or other. Yeah, not exactly as Fate route itself, but for matter of going from Zero to UBW it works. Only what is really lost is the element of Saber being main heroine.

>Why would it not be marketable?
I don't say it won't be marketable. But it's not so lucrative anymore. There is already one adaptation (like Deen or not, but existence still counts), and story is already out of point. Any usual producer would be interested in doing something new that surprise people. It's hard to sell story that everybody already knows, and you face enormous danger, that people eats you alive if you fail with something like that. It's more safe and better doing something new with popular stuff (Saber). You appeal wider fans and Saberfags will be simply happy for getting "moar of Saber". Simply too clear way to go, to ignore it and trying to appeal hardcore Saberfans

I don't think some people understand just how boring a Fate adaptation would be. The mid-way twist of the story is that Saber is King Arthur. You will have read over 100k words before that fact is explicitly stated.

Oink

>shirou being swallowed by the curse and his short fight against kirei
>shirou's projections against berserker and gil
>saber vs rider
>shirou ready to kill shinji in the school
Fate has as many good moments as UBW

oh and shirou seeing the church's underground area too, that was great

There's not enough content, dude. There wasn't enough content in 2006. Especially not now when everyone knows how Holy Grail Wars work, and that King Arthur is a girl.

>shirou being swallowed by the curse and his short fight against kirei
You do realize this would happen after people saw spring song right?

if there's enough content for UBW there's enough for Fate

what?

The Fate route was full of exposition. Exposition that everyone over the past 15 years has absorbed. I don't think you could do a straight UBW adaptation anymore either, especially not after the 2014 anime explained everything about Archer.

Please give us man of steel ending in Blu-ray

UBW has a fuckton of exposition too, it goes over a lot of what was already explained in Fate and then goes over some more of its own exposition

>man of steel
What does Superman have to do with Fate?

*mind of steel

UBW was factually the shortest route, because it didn't have to establish every little rule of the Grail War. That was half of Fate's job. We've reached a point now though where we have half a dozen weird spin off Grail War adaptations.

What class would Superman fit into?

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Imagine seeing Kirei essentially killing assassin and pummelling Shirou, then in the fate route Shirou basically stabs him and he's done. Sure he used Avalon, but Kirei basically stood still.

Archer. Laser Eyes + Ice Breath

not sure what your point is

UBW is shorter because it blitzkriegs through story beats Fate had already set up, there's tons of exposition (a mix of summing up Fate exposition necessary to explain to shirou's character, and then exposition for the route itself)

Exactly? Like, people do not need an in-depth explanation of what a Grail War is again. All that information's been covered to the nth degree. A straight adaptation of the Fate route would be almost mind-numbing, regardless of a few highlights.

Bear in mind, really, outside of potentially being a bit prettier, what exactly did DEEN do so badly in terms of adapting Fate's content? The fights aren't that great but you still got the story.

>shirou being swallowed by the curse and his short fight against kirei
This won't be much of a finale after HF is my point.

>would be almost mind-numbing, regardless of a few highlights.
you are seriously overexaggerating the amount of exposition, what makes Fate take a little longer to ge tinto the darker side of the story is that it spends more time on SOL moments between characters

shirou being swallowed by the curse was amazing though, counting HF or not. not everything has to be an epic fight for it to be good.

Like was said at the beginning of this conversation, one of the biggest twists of the Fate route is that Saber is King Arthur. Like, the VN unironically sells that as shocking.

It'd be like doing a regular adaptation of UBW nowadays, when we live in a time when Archer is straight up named "Emiya" in FGO.

>not everything has to be an epic fight for it to be good.

And if that's the case, what's wrong with DEEN?

what has that got to do with anything?

bad direction and stupid decisions all around.

Saber being King Arthur is "exposition." That's the thing the story runs on after it's through explaining the Grail War to you.

Outside of jamming in weird UBW/HF stuff briefly in the second season, what was particularly bad about it?

Which OVA is this?

Type Moon is dead, it's all about the gacha gravy-train now.

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>That's the thing the story runs on after it's through explaining the Grail War to you.
It's about their characters though, I don't see why you think people knowing Saber's identity makes Shirou's dreams about her any less interesting. it might spoil the initial surprise of finding out who she is, but it doesn't ruin anything that comes afterwards.

Most, if not even more of Saber's backstory has been delved into in various adaptations over the years. It sounds to me more like you'd want a Garden of Avalon anime.

It's not about finding out about Saber's backstory, it's about how it plays into the story, Shirou's character and his relationship with Saber, as well as his own motivations.

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And how did DEEN fail in that regard?

They basically put very abridged version of her character arc in UBW anime already during Archer vs Shirou battle.

>shirou being swallowed by the curse was amazing though, counting HF or not. not everything has to be an epic fight for it to be good.
The fight against Kirei breaks down completely after HF, and Shirou has already interacted with the mud already in the HF movies. Don't know if it happens more times, but it very well could. I never said everything has to be an epic fight.

And a full version would be much better

have you even read the VN?

I'd want a sparks liner high ova/extra over a fate adaption.

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Yes. I know Shirou interacts with the mud plenty of times in bad ends, and once in day 8, but I can't recall if it happens again in the main story.

DEEN had a full version of her character arc.

Then you should know it's never done as interesting as in the end of Fate, as it had already been done in Fate it's not made into as big a deal.

I wrote how it was better in fate, but erased it because I have no clue how they'd do it if they adapted fate. Forgot how deen did it, but UFO just gave it like 2 seconds in HF, and I doubt they'd give it much more time in fate, unless they decide to start doing more monologues.

Regardless, the part about Shirou stabbing Kirei while he essentially stays still would certainly fall apart after HF.

how they did it in the deen adaptation*

>would certainly fall apart after HF.
why? nobody's incapable of liking both.

It's weird to see Kirei's combat prowess in HF, and then see him just stand around while he's getting stabbed. If it doesn't bother you, then that's that.

They didn't really fail, they just added in a lot of bullshit that didn't need to be in there.

BUILT for old men

no he didn't stop making shit up saberfags, he already said in 2015 fate route is not a thing

just give me Rin and Shirou case files

never going to happen, thank god