Is anime dead?

lol

Most people stream. And the fact that you pay for the streaming service inhibits the willingness to buy.
Pirates buy BDs. As you can see, legal streamfags don't.

user you can be a streamfag without paying anything

Anime is bigger than ever. Only Physical is dead.

>Animu is dying

Dafuq, if anything, it's doing better than before. Sure, there's pirating, but the sheer number of people watching anime today probably more than compensates for the lack of weebs shilling out $200 for a blu-ray. Even normies watch a lot of anime now.

Yes, but that's not what I am talking about.
Legal streaming services are changing the software economy in dramatic ways.

>Sure, there's pirating, but
Stop believing in the myth that piracy is bad.

I'm friends with a manga artist so I support the industry by virtue of being friends with her

No but buying physical media is.

I wasn't saying it was bad. I've always pirated anime, even before I realized I was doing it. I haven't really done much research on the effects of piracy to know if it results in a net loss or gain for those involved in the production of anime.

However, I am kind of curious as to how you think pirating helps the industry.

>that piracy is bad
>violates someones rights
>it's not bad guys!
I have 20TB of pirated cartoons and people like you disgust me more than anyone else. What you do is WRONG. It is BAD. It is legally prohibited. You're not entitled to this content because you exist. At least be man enough to acknowledge that you cocksucking leftist cuck.

idiot

Intellectual property is not a right.

>cocksucking leftist cuck

Can't tell if this guy is trolling or not

>However, I am kind of curious as to how you think pirating helps the industry.
There are studies on the topic. None for anime in particular, but for other stuff.
On average, pirates spend more on their hobbies than people who don't pirate.

The reason being, the pirate can actually learn about the topic and choose which items are worth buying, and then make good investments. Also, since the pirate spends all that time on the hobby, he feels more strongly about it than non-pirates.

There are many pirates who don't spend a single cent on their hobbies. But the ones that do seriously outspend everyone else.

>leftist
Why is copyright leftist in your opinion?

Sometimes illegal ≠ bad. Piracy is illegal but is not bad.

Interesting. Just to be sure, could you by chance give any links?

>There are many pirates who don't spend a single cent on their hobbies
Basically me

>tfw you have to wait til December to see uncensored Nande Koko ni Sensei ga!?

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I don't have an opinion on that, those were his words not mine. I just thought his wording was a bit odd

Seething hetfag lmao

I googled a link years ago.
wiki.laquadrature.net/Studies_on_file_sharing

I live in a rural area and my internet connection is 1.1mbps DSL... I had to buy a mobile hotspot with 100gb of data just so I can watch anime over 480p. Streaming is the only option I have, user.

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Oops. Sorry. I didn't even finish his post because it was so stupid.

Thanks for the link

>those were his words
Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills, you leftist cuck.

>Streaming is the only option I have, user.
No, it isn't. Torrenting is actually better for you because it means you can make use of your internet connection while you are not at your computer. Download your anime while you are sleeping.

What a silly idea, not being able to torrent because your internet is too slow. Do you know that streaming only became popular when internet speeds supported it. People preferred downloading before then for reasons that are obvious to everyone, except you.

torrenting would require the same amount of data likely

>people don't want to pay ~80 bucks for 4 episodes anymore, especially when streaming services exist
Wow who would know

go to Yea Forums if you want to bait you fucking faggot

I had 4 mb internet last year, and before that I had 1mb and later 2mb, I would just let shit downloading every morning and night. I didn't have data caps so torrenting was better, every time I wasn't using my computer I would put something to download.

You're not entitled to this content, InstagramAnimemer04.

Everything there is complete garbage except SnK and the manga is selling like hotcakes.

>t. snkfag

Even if I sleep for 8 hours by the time I get up only 2-3 gb of data get downloaded. It's easier for me to just stream and watch what ever I want than having to wait for everything to download.

>8 hours by the time I get up only 2-3 gb of data get downloaded
you'd never be able to stream anything if that were true

>by the time I get up only 2-3 gb of data get downloaded
Yeah, those 5-8 episodes of anime will get you through the breakfast at least. But why stop downloading just because you are watching? Keep downloading. Just like you download the data while you are streaming anime, there is no reason to stop downloading while you are watching from your HDD. The only difference is that you can fill your HDD 24 hours a day.

lmaoing at Fairy Gone, that shit is supposed to be 2 cour

Ikuhara hasn't directed a good anime since Utena.

None of these even make it into this (outdated) list so no.

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My memory is flawed, but aren't the majority of these relatively new?

Yes, but that's most likely because we simply don't have the sales numbers for older shows, not because new shows are selling less than anything that came before.

It's split cour, the second half is coming next season. Still, I'm pretty surprised that it sold 302 copies, I thought it'd be on the double digits.

Judging an anime's success by BD sales is a dead meme at this point. It's all about how much it makes streaming and merchandise now

He asked as the same question is brought up literally every season.

Even the site itself says that those numbers barely mean anything anymore.
Things like Miru Tights are the top sellers on 3 sites, but because none of them are Amazon they'll never turn up. I assume many of the series on these lists are also under-represented due to how many other stores offer the BD.

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For all the torrentfags in this thread. How is torrenting any better than using sites like kissanime?

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It's doing better than ever. Industry revenue is growing over 10% per year.

>better video file for superior video quality (this is true for kissanime. It is not true for Crunchyroll since most people watch CR rips)
>better player and codecs for superior video quality
>no need to buffer anything. The video starts instantly and you can skip around any which way you like
>No ads. I will repeat that: No ads.
>soft subs, so you can make your screenshots prettier
>no dumb kissanime watermark
>you can still watch even if kissanime is down, or your own internet connection is down (like while you're riding a plane or if you simply have an incompetent internet provider)
>choose the encode you like the best (rather than being forced to pick the one encode that gets uploaded to kissanime)

>>choose the encode you like the best (rather than being forced to pick the one encode that gets uploaded to kissanime)
Related to this, you also get V2s, like when there was a mistake made in the original encode, or when a BD comes out.

No one preferred downloading shit, zoomer. We only did because we had to.

>No one preferred downloading shit
That's a good joke.

thanks, some of the stuff I already knew, but I never knew about soft subs. I might consider trying it.

>I never knew about soft subs

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You also don't give money to people that had nothing to do with the creation of the anime you are watching.

retard

Japanese anime fans have shit taste.

Doesn't matter if retards do or don't. The industry goes off streaming numbers.

citation?

Humans don't have any rights

We empirically know that new shows ARE selling less than old shows, though. Physical media sales have been steadily decreasing apart from one spike in 2013.

>I never knew about soft subs
Hard subs haven't even existed for downloaded anime since at least the early 00s, if not earlier than that. You've never downloaded a single video file ever?

Where do you think 99% of your torrents come from now?

The dumbass never even noticed the godawful gradients and crushed blacks, he's got eyes and still can't fucking see and you expect him to actually think?

Anime industry report 2018 page 2.

>watching seasonal anime and not waiting until the bluray comes out
If anything streaming is kind of like placeholder animation, just a flaw you have to deal with until the bluray comes out. Crunchyroll doesn't even update their videos all the time. Pretty sure the Jojo videos on CR are still the TV versions, placeholder animation, censorship, and all.

evidence for your claim?

They make more in merchs tho

Domestic trend. Streaming revenues surpassed video sales.

Physical sales have been dropping for years and companies like CR are on more and more production committees. Some studios don't even bother because the expense keeps increasing vs streaming. It's just cheaper to rake in fees vs dealing with the more expensive option.

citation?

>Idolmaster cinderalla girls climax sessions
Who wouldn't buy that?

Trends in Japanese Animation Market 2018 version.

here

animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-11-16/itmedia-journalist-explains-why-anime-discs-are-not-selling/.139442
aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data#
(purple is video vs green internet and red-orange international)

There is another article that I can't find at the moment that outright stated Crunchyroll streaming numbers would determine a season 2 for some anime. I think the trend to really keep an eye out for is/if when Netflix/Amazon/Hulu truly realize how cheap an anime season is to fund (~$3-4 million) compared to most American television.

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source for said evidence?

based empirical based poster

Association of Japanese Animation.

presentation of said evidence?

A column diagram.

I accept your concession Kentucky user, glad I could teach you a lesson

see

>he bumped a page 10 thread
holy fucking summer

I haven't watched an anime in a year and a half. Is there anything good right now, or anything I missed?

Association of Japanese Animation hands out the information.

>nu-Yea Forums shills hard for sarazanmai
>it was fucking dogshit

Anime got so popular in the west ONLY thanks to piracy and manga raws. No one would have interest and keep up with current anime series if they didn't know about it thanks to torrents. And after a comparatively big fanbase has already formed in the west, companies started to see profit in buying and officially distributing/streaming ongoing anime and not only old or mainstream shit like Miyadzaki. There would have been no such fanbase without piracy in the first place. Also anime is shown on tv in Japan, so torrents is basically the same free commercial for it.

>Is anime dead?
No, but it looks like DVDs and BRs are dead.

It was a pretty shitty season

I sure hope so

Japanese companies are demanding that there be no illegal distribution of their intellectual properties outside of official channels that they have an agreement with.

Nips are generally retarded and very archaic at business and don't get how it works in modern times. That's why anime industry is in such state.

Well anime like bocchi is pure garbage so i can understand at least that