Are visual novels the superior Japanese medium?

I like Fault series. I hope STP will out soon

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>Japanese live ""acting""
>superior to anything

Takase Naofumi posts designs and shit on twitter all the time, so probably.
I'd rather he finishes it properly instead of a half rush job Seinarukana was.

eroge, nukige, utsuge, nakige etc, it's not like this is unusual
kamige is used ironically a lot of the time though

even the worst series still has better writing then the average anime

no they're padded to high heaven and a majority of mcs are self inserts

Utawarerumono is still pretty new and they have confirmed that they will make more games in the series. But yes a lot of good VN studios has been shutting down lately.

GACHA

I agree.

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"no"

Also, you're forgetting that 3DPD is fucking ugly to look at which immediately devalues everything.

Don't remind me

Many of them are trash, but perhaps they're the final bastion.

God I love VN designs so god damn much, it reminds me of what I first expected anime to be

Mahoyo 2 will be released, some day

>Utawarerumono is still pretty new and they have confirmed that they will make more games in the series
user, they went full gacha

Yes they are. Though I still think manga is best overall

>series was inspired by Star Trek: Voyager
Must have been an interesting brainstorming session

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Wait really? Fault is a road trip science fantasy in a fantasy world right?

yeah, i rarely watch anime unless its related to a vn now. unironiucally started playing vns because i didnt understand shit in ufotable ubw, then i played tsuki, then higurashi, umineko, 11eyes, maiji, demonbane

No, they're trash.

I think that's a common sentiment, saying that nothing will live up to the good old days. But the fact is history tends to forgets all of the mediocre things and only the really good ones stand up to the test of time. Good VNs are just as rare now as they were in previous "golden ages".

This, if the eroge industry has another decade as bad as this one was it won't survive

They feel like they get paid by the word. There's so much useless repetitive dialogue giving you the same information you already learned 5 minutes ago. And they rarely use reader input, what separates them from actual novels, to good effect. Like Grisaia, which might as well not have branching paths at all for how little choice it gives you.

Medium might be in downward spiral but each year still usually have atleast few prety damn great games coming out depending on your taste.

I'd say the sound, images, and in many cases voice acting separate them from "actual novels", but what do I know.

>4 hour shit that can be done in 1 hour

setoguchi-sama

They're good for moege and porn. The 'deep' vns people rave about are mostly juvenile affairs, only held up by shock value

> I highly doubt any new kamige will ever happen.
This is the statement done by an EOP. There are plenty of good VN coming out frequently.

They certainly make you feel closer to the characters, since not only does the length of dialogue give them more quirks and nuances but you also get a lot of 1-on-1 time with them.

Visual novels are padded to hell and back. Grisaia had a 10 hour common route where absolutely nothing happened. All KEY games are insanely long for no reason. Chaos;Child had an engaging murder mystery and some genuinely interesting things to say, but good luck finding anyone who's willing to put up with 60 hours of boring SoL to get to it. Subarashiki Hibi, the visual novel that gets touted as god's gift to mankind, has tons of stupid comedy filler, tons of pointless porn and a million irrelevant endings. Visual novels are just too damn long for no reason. The authors aren't made to edit their scripts at all. Every word must have its day, whether or not it has any meaning.

>medium dominated by isekai
>superior

This thread isn't about manga.

Sure, there are good ones, but is there anything that measures to /jp/'s kameegays?

>I highly doubt any new kamige will ever happen.
:^)

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>Subarashiki Hibi, the visual novel that gets touted as god's gift to mankind, has tons of stupid comedy filler, tons of pointless porn and a million irrelevant endings
Sasuga ADHD-kun.

You are retarded user, I am sorry.

VNs are no more padded than LNs or manga that run for 20 volumes even though the story could have been wrapped up in 3-5 at most.

>still working for PC environments
>not migrating to android/iOS
No wonder why VN are dying.

Haha that sure worked out well for light.

>works bad for 1 single novel
>nooooooo!!, all medium is doomed in this format!!
Migration doesn't always works at the first tries. But it's completely neccesary in the long run, unless you want to die forever, and you're ok with that.

sorceress alive was pretty meh imo.
MC was a massive retard, really ruined the true route for me.

Moshi Moshi user! I'm back! You remember me, don't you?

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All text based Japanese media aimed at young adults has the same fundamental problem: Language competency of people under the age of 30.

needed an evil/Yuumi route where you can truly join her to play with the world she basically created for you but considering MC's cliche personality it might not have worked out.

I heard it had some fun twist about half-way through? should I add it to my backlog?

Personaly was the last kamige for me from last year

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>should I add it to my backlog?
Maybe if you have nothing else to read.
First part of the game is basically a moege.
>I heard it had some fun twist about half-way through
at the beginning of Alive route it does get pretty intense with twists/betrayal etc but then goes downhill and furthermore takes it too far and when you get introduced to literally Mr.Infodump the character who fixes all problems for you or tells you how to fix them you know the writers should've just stopped escalating with the twists before that point.

i can barely read subtitles while watching anime and you want me to read this faggot shit for weeks just to unlock some porn CG
no thanks

the breasts are too big, dropped

ok thanks, I have enough games alreayd on my backlog but might remember it thanks to nice looking art. last quesiton tho, is the protagonist shitty self-insert with no own personality or something atleast acceptable?

>with no own personality
hah if you put it that way and if we're being technical indeed that's not his own/real personality.
But yea he's basically your cliche nice guy MC.

Superior to manga, at the very least.
I’d much rather imagine a scene in my head than try to make sense of what’s going on with a bunch of black and white pictures layed out in a weird order.

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>that measures to /jp/'s kameegays?
Just by this you can probably infer why most if not all the kamiges by jp's standards are translated.

You can find really good ones but since they are not going to be translated most of the users there can't know shit about how good they can be. You just have to search really carefully.

This just sounds like you are too retarded to take your time to read something.

Yes, yes they are, but VNs aren't Yea Forums related.

but mememasa is my eternal JOP shrine

>usually not censored
99% of the eroge I've seen have pixelated genitalia.

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I wish they were, makes more sense than Yea Forums (which isn't explicitly prohibited area for VN's) - after all the artstyle is similar to manga and anime and there's lots of overlap between the franchises and there's usually nothing that can be called "gameplay". Then there's /jp/ which is the recommended board for VN's - but that's a dead Touhou board in practice.

JUST has it covered. Eventually.

That is literally part of the appeal.

Visual novels really are excessively long though. Grisaia has the same wordcount as the Bible.

Yes, they are. Faggots don't like reading though so they're not very popular.

The real good thing about them is that most of the time they are complete stories, unlike 95% of Anime, Manga and Light novels

>worse girl
>worse route
>every time someone brings up Grisaia it's usually this picture or the spinny meme version

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The companies are migrating, theyre just making gachashit instead

Can't imagine that ever turning out well.

>worst girl
But that's not Amane

Songs are coming out at least

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They would be, if their main audience weren't disgusting fat moebuta who buy the exact same fucking game a hundred time over.
Actually interesting vns are few and far inbetween. Everything is derivative harem shit with generic art. Grisaia has quite of great stuff going on and definitely worth a read, I'm not saying harem are bad by definition, but how about being more original sometimes.

This will be my first time with 07 sprites... I'm not picky but I hope it will live up my hype same as ps3 sprites.

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VNs are censored by The Ethics Organization of Computer Software. You don't technically need their approval but it's much harder to distribute a software without it.
They have banned lots of words that could imply a character is underaged, for instance "highshool" or "student", characters need to be at least five heads tall, randoseru are banned et cetera. They are very strict about mosaics too. No small black bars here ...
They don't approve games that are too extreme expressions. When reviewing software they take into consideration things that go against the norm of society that could be harmful for the moral development of the youth. For example raping, excessive violence and use weapons, criminal activity, underage drinking, drug use, suicide, torture. It's not exactly banned, it depends on how it's written about, how detailed it is.

Given that Kara no Shoujo exists, doesn't sound like they're too strict.

They don't want games to endorse those things that were listed. They probably wouldn't approve a game were you played as the murderer for example.

try euphoria or maggot baits, kns is babby tier

>we do not condone or encourage any criminal behaviour present in this VN
There, done. Just a little disclaimer when you boot up the game and you're free to do what you want.

This user is right. VN is a dying medium. They need to bring those VN to the mobile platform. When I say that I meant the professional ones.

VNs are great but there are only a few that really achieve what the medium is capable of.

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>I highly doubt any new kamige will ever happen.
Are we talking genuine kamige or /jp/ meme kamige, aka "it becomes shit once it's translated?" Because Rance X is a genuine kamige and released only just last year.

KnS3 has kamige potential.

Maybe plot focused stuff is dying but moege are still fine, and moege delivers better romance stories than harem romcom manga/anime, plus you get some nice porn as an extra.

I've been following the series since the day it released on Steam and the wait for StP is frustrating as fuck.