>Kyoto Animation admits it has record of receiving draft novel from arson suspect
>the company initially said there were no records of receiving any works from Aoba
>We’re confident that none of the company’s products so far has any similarity” to the apparent work of the suspect, said Daisuke Okeda, the firm’s lawyer.
Hmmmmm strange they didn't release the novel so we could check ourselves and had to have one of their lawyers issue a "we totally didn't steal shit bro trust us" comment.
If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed.
Mods why did you delete the last thread? It was on topic and relates to Anime. Do you support theft and plagiarism?
People like to feel sad or write about how sad they feel that a bunch of people they don't know died and then to proceed to make angry comments about what should happen to the perpetrator self-righteously, then finally feel good about themselves knowing that they are morally right!
Blake Rivera
Kyoani already stole another man's work in 2012. Surprising, said man (JINRUI author Tanaka Romeo) is quite famous.
Evan Jenkins
Ok, let's pretend for a moment that they really did copy his shit. >company does evil shit >therefore 33 wagies deserve to die Does this make sense to you?
Brody James
>Japantoday is there an original jp source?
Henry Jenkins
Yea
Oliver Cook
As a HUNTERCHAD, we’ve been telling you that Kyoani are thieves.
Caleb Thompson
Kyoani were always evil, at least since 2009. It's a karma
Jordan Perry
What did they steal from you?
Grayson Turner
H
Landon Cruz
Are you the faggot that thinks that "theft" of intellectual """""""""""property"""""""""""" is both real, and something that somehow merits arson? If so, please gas yourself.
Justin Wilson
Never said it did make sense, that's not even what im talking about.
Ethan Lee
If a guy killed your family because he said you did something rude to him a decade ago, you deny ever meeting him but then you discover from security footage that you actually did step on his shoe at a McDonald's without ever looking at his face, would that justify it?
Lincoln Perry
>Kyoani may have actually plagiarized this guy's stuff >Therefore, he's completely justified in setting a fire that killed 35 people and injured 33.
They violated the NAP by stealing his work. Think of it this way, maybe he just wanted to burn the building down and not kill anyone. He couldn't have known KyoAni turned off the fire system and didn't have fire escapes. Now because of their negligence he is going to spend the rest of his life in Japan prison (which is hell-tier) and then die while KyoAni rake in millions in sympathy money for stealing his fucking work. So yes, I feel sorry for Shinji-kun.
Nathan Lewis
Considering that none of kyoani anime in recent years have been particularly original or notable outside of animation, the arsonist claim is about as legit as deviantart fags and their oc donut steel. No, there is nothing strange, just you being retarded.
Camden Jones
Nice try except the perp made conscious efforts to try and kill as many people as possible
Jaxon Sanders
Too many bootlickers in Yea Forums as you can tell from this thread. They spread their cheeks wider when getting raped by companies.
You and all the other faggots sitting around starbucks going on and on about your original screenplay. Imagine having such a hateboner for some cartoon studio that you have to justify the actions of a mentally ill landwhale. Seek help, user.
Gavin Anderson
>They violated the NAP by stealing his work. Except he gave up his work as part of the terms and conditions of a mutual agreement.
Gabriel Gomez
KyoAni can't just release scripts they don't own. Shinji Aoba could have released his scripts in the past to prove the accuracy of his claims.
Samuel Robinson
> killing people is wrong > REEEE BOOTLICKER Go shoot up a school or something, incel.
James Garcia
Jesus fuck, I don't even know who is genuinely retarded and who is baiting at this point.
NAP doesn't apply to intellectual property fucktard, read some Rothbard
Angel Powell
Didn't he turn out to be an actual train otaku after all the barisaku false reports were cleared up?
Adam Turner
Any sufficiently advanced baiting is indistinguishable from retardation.
Brayden Powell
Even if he wasn't trying to kill anyone (which, btw, he absolutely was) that STILL doesn't justify his actions and he still has to live with the consequences of those actions and accept full responsibility regardless of any negligence on Kyoani's part. Stop being an edgy retard.
Jaxon Brown
yes
Jose Parker
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed.
Yeah, sure. Lets disregard the 35 dead, 33 in hospital, property damage, wasting city resources, and loss of business.
Next time when Lays steals my ammonia and bleach flavor, I am going to nuts on them like this but all will be forgiven because my idea was stolen.
Jackson Butler
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed. If they did actually steal his work he should have come forward with the claims before setting fire to the building. But yeah, let's say KyoAni did steal his work. He's then owned royalties, but he's still in death row for murdering 34 people. Whoo-hoo.
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed. Yeah that's what would probably happen if he didn't kill anyone which he did.
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released No. IF (and I still think it's a huge if) his novel was actually similar enough to a KyoAni original series (ie, it didn't happen to be similar to some other novel someone else wrote and KyoAni adapted) he'd be owed royalties. He is not justified, legally or morally, in committing arson and murder.
Camden Flores
>Think of it this way, maybe he just wanted to burn the building down and not kill anyone. If he wanted to burn down the building with minimal casaulties, he'd do it in the middle of the night, not in the middle of a work day.
How the fuck does a mass murderer get a defence force?
Not everything is a conspiracy you dense piece of shit. The manuscript didn't make it past the first stage and was never distributed to staff, they've only found it now because they have more important things to deal with (such as 35 funerals, and 10 people in the ICU) Come back when you actually have tangible proof instead of speculation
Charles Barnes
In the last ten years, KyoAni has produced only one original series, that being Tamako Market. So yeah, it should be pretty easy to prove whether or not that dude's competition script is in any way similar to that.
Stop acting like a fucking retard.
Brayden Murphy
You're violating the NAP by being aggressively retarded. Now I am left with no alternative but to tell you to go kill yourself. You really forced my hand on this one.
Working for criminals makes you a criminal. No, ignorance does not make you any less of a criminal. This is literally a normal legal standard.
If anything people becoming extremely leery of working for shady companies and corporations would be a great thing for society.
Alexander Diaz
The guy could have just sued them, fucking them over and actually gaining something from it. Instead he sperged out and fucked himself over massively.
Alexander Gray
KYOANI LIED PEOPLE DIED
Jordan Rodriguez
Remember kids, every time something bad happens in your life kill the people who aren't responsible for it.
Juan Bell
NAP applies to contracts though. IP is a social contract and novel submissions (depending on context) can be contractually protected as well.
Either way anyone that just hands their work to a publisher instead of publishing on the internet themselves is a fucking idiot asking to get ripped off. Even if your work isn't copied wholesale all these publishers will archive everything they get and use them piecemeal when making seasonal shovelware garbage.
Joshua Nguyen
moe moeru
Logan Bell
>he thinks anime studios don't have just as many slaves in the middle of the night as during the day Just saying.
Kevin Ortiz
His novel was probably such generic garbage than some generic anime that Kyoani made to pay the rent might had some similarity. The guy was obviously a loonie that would see any similarity and jump to think that they stole it from his manuscript, if it were that good, he could either have gotten a contract somewhere else, or he could have published it to prove that Kyoani stole from him and that his idea was good. He didn't do it, deep down he knows that it's garbage and that he's full of shit.
Ethan Hughes
Guilt by association is how the real world works. Just look at the nukes.
he could have avoided jail and made money by proving his claim, either he was a retard or a liar
Blake Johnson
>suing companies as some starving artist Good fucking luck. I bet you think the justice system accomplishes its purpose.
Jayden Wood
Or both.
Aiden Reed
Funny how they haven't released the work so we can check if there's no similarity isn't it? Smells like they're covering up their plagiarism.
Brandon Richardson
Who cares. The fat little freak killed good people and I only hope they live stream his execution.
DROP THE LITTLE SPERGLORD
Andrew Richardson
B-b-but think of 33 gorillion
Jaxson Harris
>good people Every last one could have been a pederast for all you know.
Robert Price
They're not going to do that when there's an active police investigation you retard.
Jason Williams
>and I only hope they live stream his execution. lmao stop being such a liveleak consuming edgelord
Anthony Powell
At least they've contributed to an anime and make a name for the brief time they've been here. Can you say the same?
Aiden Gomez
It largely does. Otherwise it would be called the injustice system.
Kayden Lewis
OP quote the end of your article too. >Kyoto Animation’s attorney went on to say that the novel submitted by Shinji Aoba was formally eliminated from the contest in the first round of judges’ evaluations. “We have confirmed that it has no similarity to any Kyoto Animation works,” he added.
It’s unclear whether Hatta’s initial statement that he had never received any written communication from Aoba is a result of one quickly eliminated novel not being noteworthy enough to stick out in his memory, or if the Kyoto Animation head simply wasn’t personally involved in the initial round of contest judging. I bet it was some generic shit that was eliminated from the contest together with 500 others, and no one remembers it ever happened.
Aiden Peterson
Innocent until proven guilty you fucking lunatic. What are you on about?
>oh they could have been child molesters you don't know!!! Shut your faggot mouth up you retarded faggot. I fucking hate you. Drop with the sperg
Joseph Gonzalez
The only original works Kyoani have ever done without a credited existing author are Munto and Tamako Market, tell me which one "stole" from a mentally ill person who was stuck in jail during that time.
Mason Reyes
KyoAni doesn't as far as I know.
Zachary Bell
A CEO is not going to read the turds some braindead otaku send them
Owen Harris
He lives in fucking Japan, he wouldn't even have to fucking sue them, just come forward with proof about plagirism. If the claims held water, he'd get official apology pretty quickly. The thing is, only way his claims could be true is if he submitted his novel to contest that was held before 2013, which was the year when Tamako Market was made. That is the only original work that KyoAni has made in the last ten years, everything else has been based on novels or manga written by other authors.
David Allen
Based. Rightfully exacted revenge makes me feel warm and fuzzy. The thieving gooks thought they had gotten away with it but /ourguy/ didn't cuck out.
I never go to liveleak and usually close out of anything with that watermark. I am a squeamish little bitch most of the time to gore and snuffshit but I would be damn near FULLY ERECT watching that fat little autist dangle around with the rope digging into his fat rolls
Wyatt Russell
>thinking titles arbitrarily decided by rulers corresponds with real function in any way whatsoever I look forward to your support for my upcoming "save all the children" and "make the bad people go away" laws.
Justin Brown
Kyoani expand very extensively on their source novels, they could've easily stolen characters or plot lines from different novels.
Jason Bennett
This post could've taken up way less space if you didn't format it like an annoying faggot
Adam Young
But without any proof you're completely talking out of your ass.
Ryan Butler
Now you're just being ridiculous. What did they steal, yuribaiting so they could add it to Euphonium? Wow, what a fresh concept that has never been done before.
Connor Hughes
>implying plagiarism suits ever pan out in any but the most high profile, high money cases You'd literally have to be hoping Kyoani is dumb enough to keep record of themselves plagiarizing because anything else falls under plausible deniability.
Jacob Martin
Imagine getting killed by a guy wearing a fanny pack
Bentley Harris
Besides, even if (perhaps especially if) they're innocent, they certainly not going to want to give a psycho's work any publicity, much less distribution.
I bet Reiko Yoshida one of the most prolific writers in the business needs to steal ideas from a no name.
Landon Brown
THEY COULD HAVE LITERALLY STOLEN HIS RETARD FANTASY NOVEL WORD FOR WORD IT DOESN'T EXCUSE HIM KILLING PEOPLE IN SUCH A HORRIFIC WAY IF YOU UNIRONICALLY THINK OTHERWISE YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD LIKE HIM YOU SHOULD BE DRAGGED OUT INTO THE STREET AND SHOT POINT BLANK
Manga artists in Japan have gotten dropped over those claims. Meanwhile somebody who is found to be in possession of actual CP there just gets a slap on the wrist. Don't fucking act like American practices apply everywhere.
Juan Rogers
>IT DOESN'T EXCUSE HIM KILLING PEOPLE IN SUCH A HORRIFIC WAY It literally does.
William Cox
No matter how hard you samefag these threads it doesn't make it true, bud.
Chase Russell
Mate, nothing excuses setting a building on fire and killing the people inside it.
Colton Rogers
Getting dropped has nothing to do with litigation, it's the bad PR that a claim by itself generates. It just goes to show how worthless the actual creators are to these companies.
Jeremiah Bell
I don't think you are serious but I will bite anyway. It really doesn't.
Brody Powell
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed. He still killed 34 people.
Brandon Peterson
If it turns out that Kyoani stole his story; I think he should be given the balance as he's owed.
And once he's hung, his estate will have the full value for anyone he desires to inherit it.
Bentley Hill
It doesn't excuse it but it does provoke it. Anyone that gets up in arms in defense of a fucking corporation when nobody knows the full story is a cuckold.
Josiah Gray
>Let's justify murder and arsonery because confirmed plagiarism happened
I mean, imagine self-defending with a chainsaw against an annoying baby.
Ethan Ortiz
Who here is HYPED? I simply cannot wait for his well deserved execution Would be extremely based if they chose to bring out the guillotine Hope they livestream the whole event too
I’d say killing people in the street point blank for the wrong opinions is worse than murder in retaliation to theft.
Elijah Phillips
>Killing thieves is wrong Back to r/socialism with you
Gabriel Murphy
It doesn't, but if he already tried taking legal action against them in court and got fucked over, while also actually being in the right, it is somewhat understandable. Which is an easy thing to imagine happening. Hell, it is like he didn't have enough money to even take this to court so the company wins by default. Even more, as others here point out, submitting to competitions to such companies often means they magically get the rights of your script forever and ever, so once you send your story they can easily fuck you over and claim to be in the right legally. As bad as is what he did, it might be the only way for what KyoAni did to him and possible others to come to light.
Jack Miller
I don't know if you're trying to prove a point or what but yeah those laws of yours are ones I'd be happy to support. Is it better to not save children or have bad people stay?
David Miller
The guy is literally mentally ill and has criminal records, has no job and very little education, no experience in writing anything. Yet you have retards here who even entertain the idea that what a mentally ill person claimed is true and actually had his amazing novel ripped off.
Xavier Reed
>Anyone that gets up in arms in defense of a fucking corporation when nobody knows the full story is a cuckold. Says some guy in a thread where people are bending over backwards to try to justify the actions of an unemployed neckbeard mass murderer.
Tyler Young
Even if they did use his material this does not excuse mass murder. And there is zero evidence that they did use anything. Dismissed.
Lincoln Mitchell
It took over 10 years for the Aum Shinrikyo guy to be hanged. And no, it wasn't recorded.
Justin Collins
>removes both moefags and plagiarists SUGOI SHINJI-KUN
Aiden Morales
>But your honor, that woman was wearing short skirt and was making eyes at me. It's not my fault I ended up raping her.
Kevin Baker
Oh, go fucking fuck yourself. The dude was a train otaku that had already that had already been to prison previously. You seriously fucking think that Tamako Market ripped his ideas off? Stop fucking acting like his claims have any merit.
Henry Young
>rape I prefer the term surprise sex
Henry Nelson
We can't know until we see his script. There is absolutely no reason to immediately think the company did nothing wrong, because of what he did.
Hunter Hernandez
What if he don't have money to press charge for the plagiarism. Suing someone needs money after all
Benjamin Edwards
Companies don't magically gain rights to your work. Read what you sign, think about it and take it seriously.
>Stealing a mentally ill guy's novel Sausage Kyoani
Gavin Richardson
...I fail to see the contradiction.
Henry Martinez
Just fucking come forward with claims online, holy fuck. This is Japan, you don't need to immediately press charges.
Connor Watson
Doesn't mean anyone genuinely believes it's justified. I for one am glad to see that so many people are willing to play the devil's advocate.
False equivalence, clothing is not damaging to anyone else. If some chick started kicking some hobo trying to sleep in an alleyway I wouldn't feel the slightest bit bad for her getting raped.
Camden Kelly
You, user, are alright.
Samuel Perry
>People should be able to steal whatever they want without consequences I can't tell if you're trolling or not
Jaxson Watson
And got ignored. Big guys will always just sweep him off as non threat. And chances are, internet won't take him seriously
Alexander Young
>status = moral good I pity you.
Innocent until proven guilty is a meme which even the phrase's originating government doesn't follow. Nobody is bad until proven otherwise, but likewise nobody is good until proven otherwise.
Christian Barnes
So the arsonist did nothing wrong?
Colton Myers
So let's suppose actual theft happened. Why did this dumbass kill KyoAni employees, and not person who would have stolen his script, Reiko Yoshida?
> clothing is not damaging to anyone Neither is plagiarism, actually, if the plagiarized person has no personal means to publish and monetize the work in question.
Daniel Russell
Do you have proof about him trying to come forward with the claism about plagirism?
Blake Gomez
At bare minimum he was wrong for getting caught. If you're doing something bad you shouldn't get caught, and even if you're doing something good you still shouldn't get caught.
Brayden Butler
I just make an assumption from people here's question of "why don't he press charges if he really is plagiarized"
Isaac Brooks
Breach of contract, IP theft in a society that observes IP.
Jace Cook
Breach of what contract, show me the exact legal grounds he had. Oh you can't because you're making shit up.
Blake Russell
Its not understandable. Get yourself checked out mate, you seem like you can structure an argument and aren't an idiot. You might actually be suffering from some mental illness.
Blaming an entire company, when probably only one or two people could possibly be held responsible for "stealing his idea", and then setting fire to said company and killing 32-34 people (who likely didn't have anything to do with the alleged "stealing") is just flat out wrong. He blamed an entire collective of people for the perceived wrong doing of a few. KyoAni as a company wouldn't be at fault here, but the few people who made the decision to reject the submission of his novel idea and then plagiarized it, allegedly.
Objectively true though. If she didn't want some of this dingaling she wouldn't have looked in my direction.
David King
>this spergy talentless hack and mass murderer should be released and paid for his epic anime ideas Spoken like a true jew.
Hunter Collins
Plagiarism has nothing to do with a breach of contract. Copyright stems from laws. I'm not saying it's okay to plagiarize, just that it might not be damaging.
>If some chick started kicking some hobo trying to sleep in an alleyway I wouldn't feel the slightest bit bad for her getting raped. Nothing justifies rape either. I'd still think she's a bad person for kicking a hobo, but she doesn't deserve to be raped.
Carter Kelly
violate the NAP...
Jacob Scott
Just because it is lawful, doesn't mean it is ethical. Getting the rights to your script just because you submitted to some competition of theirs is fucking bullshit. It is understandable action for someone that gets screwed over big time and possible have his whole life. And especially in Japan you can't claim "lol it is just two guys that are at wrong, has nothing to do with the company as a whole".
Christopher Jones
>but she doesn't deserve to be raped >"she" There you go. Justified.
Not justified, but still provoked. When someone has a lot to lose and picks a fight with someone with little, they bring this type of thing on themselves. It's called stupidity, and it deserves no pity.
Ryder Jones
Then don't enter into contracts you don't agree with. There, your nobel prize tier novel is safe.
Aaron Cruz
This is why mandatory burqa wearing for woman is a necessity. You can't stop woman from their thotful nature
Luke Ortiz
Women shouldn't go outside without their male guardians.
Cameron Russell
>How the fuck does a mass murderer get a defence force? Usually by being cute/hot. But the guy definitely didn't have that so dunno.
Objectively not true. She kicked someone she thought was weaker than her and then failed to realize that she kicked a tiger, that is entirely on her for getting a milky bootyhole. It's even worse because she kicked a homeless person, someone malnourished and starving still had the strength to overpower her. Maybe she shoulda went to the gym instead of kicking the homeless.
Don't pretend to be such a slick smartass. Even today with the internet being self-published is a completely different animal than being published by a big publishing house and being in people's way every time they buy that one magazine. It is absolute immoral and unethical how such businesses abuse their position to fuck over people.
Asher Evans
Objectively speaking, the need for children justifies rape. If there was one fertile woman left in existence, and she refused to procreate, it would be completely justified to rape the rebirth of the species from her.
Wyatt Gray
Sure it's stupidity, but it still doesn't make rape in any way okay or proportional as a response. Punch her in the face, sure, that's reasonable. Beating her to a pulp would be a bit excessive, but not entirely out of line. Rape is always out of line.
Jordan Sanders
>Some guy from a middle eastern shithole country: "No you see, you should be doing things OUR way!" Ok, Ahmed. Go lick Mr. Bonesaw's toes while you're at it.
>It is understandable action for someone that gets screwed over big time and possible have his whole life. He already had been in jail before he wrote anything, has no education, has mental illnesses, had no friends. Yeah he definitely had his life ruined because he submitted some trash novel to a trash anime competition.
Cameron Scott
Shut up, stupid woman.
Jack Sullivan
>sex is worse than murder
Justin Harris
>big publishing house invested big money into their big publishing network >i-it's not fair that they set their own rules to protect their big investments, those bastards Find smaller publishing house wherein you can negotiate the rules. Also expect lesser remuneration.
Xavier Bell
Oh, and what're you going to do about it, internet-tough-guy? Quote the Koran at me? P.S. Mohammed was a pedophile.
>sent draft to company >they did nothing >he think they stole it ???
Wyatt Martinez
That is proof indeed that they stole it.
Cameron Parker
Seek mental help.
Ryder Morgan
Well, it did ruin it if they indeed stole his story and made tons of money through it. How do you know he wasn't doing his best to live properly until they pushed his bottoms massively? That's the thing, some people in this thread whine "How could people be defending him!?", but why are people offensively on KyoAni's side, at least on this part of the issue, without us having seen the original script that he has submitted? It is completely possible that he is telling the truth. Oh yeah, protect their big investments into stolen products? How noble. >Also expect lesser remuneration. Actually very possible not. But publishing house give absolutely small percentage of the sales as payment. Except that we don't know nothing for a fact. If anything so far it is a bit suspicious against KyoAni considering they might have tried to hide his submission.
Brandon Ross
you can tell this is a troll because real libertardians would never say plagiarism is wrong
Dylan Perry
Well you can sent drafts to all companies across the world now and claim they stole it. But I know this is bait threads so whatever
Jordan Reyes
>fucks some 11 year old girl >n-no Your Honor, y-you see her parents totally told me I could, so in Agrabah that makes it legal! Pic related called, you need to answer.
the lawyer said 'we dindu steal nuffin' surely they wouldn't just go on public and lie?
Jacob Jenkins
>considering they might have tried to hide his submission. Or just mistaken? You know tons of autists send their wet fantasies to studios and writers everyday. They probably didn't even notice him. We will see
Jason Reed
Don't worry, soon it will be legal everywhere, Allah willing.
>fucks Marries. Fucking outside of wedlock is only for degenerate w*sterners.
Easton Collins
>Well, it did ruin it if they indeed stole his story and made tons of money through it. Once again, the only thing that could have possibly been stolen are Munto and Tamako market, both which are huge flops and probably lost money. >How do you know he wasn't doing his best to live properly until they pushed his bottoms massively? Do you even read? He was already a criminal before he wrote anything, he claimed to have written the novel in jail, which even in jail he was a huge problem case and had to be isolated.
Jason Barnes
>Oh yeah, protect their big investments into stolen products? How noble. It's not a "theft" if you consented to it beforehand. Why is this so difficult to understand?
Alexander Jenkins
>Do you support theft and plagiarism? Yes. """Intellectual""" """property""" is a meme. Based KyoAni knows what's up.
Liam Davis
>going to jail if the parents consent Who is going to snitch, user?
Ian Perry
Why is so difficult for you to understand ethical questions? You are hardly a human being if you can't make a difference between right and wrong as simple as this. A complete drone.
Aaron James
>10 years ago >didn't pass the preliminary competition (shit) >plagiarism
Judges can fuck off. If the girl and her parents are okay with it then why is it anyone's business? Is deciding who is allowed to procreate government's job now?
Andrew King
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released No, why? >and paid all compensation and royalties owed. Yes.
If they did steal his work, why burn them down instead of taking them to court?
Aiden Moore
>Is deciding who is allowed to procreate government's job now? Yes, why would it not be? It's not like you can abort your own fetuses without our help.
Jaxson Walker
Yes OP said they stole it 10 years ago
Jeremiah Collins
No.
Xavier Wilson
>without our help. >our help >our And well, once legalized abortion usually becomes a private business. Murrica being one of the great examples.
Angel Anderson
Classic /pol/, advocates for the power to genocide then proceeds to complain about it being used against whites.
Zachary Martinez
Everything in America is a private business, what's your point? Or are you presuming that the politicians aren't paid for like they're the middle management of important roles?
Brody Rivera
All their anime are adaptations. Except K-ON and Tamako Market. Tamako Market was made by K-ON team. They don't need to steal anything because they were K-ON team. >arsonist wrote K-ON cool story
Charles Kelly
>but why are people offensively on KyoAni's side, at least on this part of the issue, without us having seen the original script that he has submitted? It is completely possible that he is telling the truth. Given KyoAni's record of treating its animators and other employees well and paying them decently, I think it's fair to give them benefit of the doubt here. I'll keep an open enough mind on things, but the most likely scenario is that KyoAni didn't base a damn thing on his novel and he's just a psycho who lashed out.
Justin Turner
>/pol/ No-one was talking about /pol/ until you got here, user. I think you need to stop seeing your boogeyman everywhere you go.
Cameron Harris
I don't see anything unethical about using means which were duly agreed upon by both parties beforehand. But I'm just a simple proffesional liar certified by this country's bar association, which might have made me a but sociopathic and insensitive towards questions of ethics.
Owen Robinson
How is abortion your problem when privatized?
Andrew Phillips
But they do own it. That's the problem with those writing competitions, even if you don't win, they still own the rights to your work, meaning you'll can't monetize it elsewhere and will never get paid for it.
Cooper Hernandez
Because he's a pathetic poser and desrved to be robbed.
Asher Lee
Dude, K-On was based on an existing manga.
Caleb Lopez
>implying privatized businesses are removed from governmental control.
Jack King
Wait really?
Camden Price
>all those faggots getting hard on so many people who brought them good animes dying
The foreign otaku community was a mistake, and yoh should all kill yourselves, you know you will never bring anything of value to this world anyway.
> But I'm just a simple professional liar certified by this country's bar association, which might have made me a but sociopathic and insensitive towards questions of ethics. There you go. K-ON is based on a manga. Also most of their "adaptations" are in-house LNs that they do such a horrible job adapting that if you actually liked the anime you will be disappointed once you learn the original is very different. Some of the writers have talked about how unhappy they are about it too.
Josiah Davis
>if it were that good, he could either have gotten a contract somewhere else, or he could have published it to prove that Kyoani stole from him No he couldn't, because the moment he submitted it, it became kyoani's manuscript. Their property and publishing rights, not his.
Elijah Perry
Where's the control in paying out of pocket to get feti slurped out?
Cameron Phillips
>Good anime Aside from Amagi they were pretty trash
Lucas Sullivan
If this is true then they deserve it.
Jonathan Jenkins
Yep. Written by kakifly, serialised in Manga Time Kirara since 2007.
Sebastian Torres
Such a shitty falseflag
Luke Fisher
You first
Andrew Clark
>I advocate government control over who is allowed to have sex because abortion is government controlled lolwut
Mason Wright
The government can still choose whether it's legal or not on a whim. They can decide at what month it considered "too late", they can allow or ban methods of removal etc.
Christian Bennett
He wrote Tamako Market. And it was AOTS. Fuck KyoAni. They deserved to die. Arsonist was genius.
Joseph Lewis
I don't approve of theft. You steal anime an manga every day. Fuck off and kill yourself.
Austin Gonzalez
Rip off my story, it's gonna get gory.
Christopher Howard
I feel kinda sorry for Shinji-kun now. Imagine getting your shit stolen and going crazy because of it. Fuck KyoAni.
Nathan Hill
>Also most of their "adaptations" are in-house LNs that they do such a horrible job adapting that if you actually liked the anime you will be disappointed once you learn the original is very different. Some of the writers have talked about how unhappy they are about it too. These days they're mostly based on in-house light novels, but even before they started doing that they still did almost exclusively adaptations. Also, changing things in the adaptation isn't necessarily doing a horrible job of adapting. For the most part, I think where KyoAni have made changes it's for the better. And writers can get their noses out of joint for all sorts of dumb reasons; they're not the absolute authority on what's good or not.
Joshua King
STEAL A NOVEL BURN IN A HOVEL
Isaac Fisher
All of their works in the last 10 years are adaptations, what the fuck could they steal?
Chase Hughes
based
Sebastian Lewis
Tamako Market. Confirmed.
Jaxon Moore
wrong
Caleb Anderson
the atmosphere
Michael Campbell
How would you know if they made it for the better? You would have to read them to know. They add new characters, tons of filler shit and almost always yuri or yaoi baiting that wasn't there before. It is de facto bad advertisement for the novels anyway.
Jayden Martinez
In-house adaptation that they do this with. You can easily get better deals for the LNs if you give characters and plot point to some random dude and then change it yourself even more in the adaptation.
Jordan Cooper
>Light novel >Written by Mutsuki Ichinose >Illustrated by Yukiko Horiguchi >Published by Kyoto Animation >Published April 8, 2013 KYS
Grayson Martinez
>confirmed
so they stole the nonexistence novel because the author was still in prison back then
Logan Butler
>How would you know if they made it for the better? By reading the original and watching the anime and comparing the two? I mean sure I haven't done that with every title, but it holds true for what I have.
Eli Perry
I hope the same happen to shaft soon.
Juan James
Fuck off with your speculation. Show the proof this happened.
Julian Johnson
Such great arguments, surely no one could dispute such well reasoned reputations.
Mason Morris
Pretty funny >they stole it! >but Kyoani only has 1 original show >hmmm hmmmm uh! Their adaptations are full of OC! I heard it from JOP in discord. They stole it!
Daniel Cruz
*refutations
Jonathan Baker
Hyouka.
Nathan Long
>they gave the novel to another dude who rewrites it and calls himself the author
Christopher Williams
fucking lol, >better deals for LNs please show me ONE example when it's the case
Owen Sanders
I don't think you even understood what was said.
Matthew Sanders
chuunibyou koi ga shittai should be considered original. Kyoani just borrowed original novels character only, entire plot was rewritten by them.
Ryan Smith
He wrote FMP. Gatoh is hack.
Thomas Sanchez
Did you read original LN?
Isaac Sanchez
yeah. but only half, I guess is right. I couldn't get it why kyoani gave this shitty novel a prize. if OP is not bull shitter, chuunibyo would be the thing they stole from arsonist.
Jacob Lopez
What's the difference?
Adrian Diaz
>implying they had to plagiarize his novel as a whole, not just a part of it, which they incorporated into another title of theirs
Carson Perry
nibbutani wasn't in novel at first. sichimiya wants to get over her chuunibyo state... etc.
Dominic Lopez
>nibbutani Can't even spell the name correctly. >wasn't in the novel Also wrong. You haven't even read it.
Logan Nguyen
>nibbutani wasn't in novel at first. Why are you fucking lying, EOP?
Benjamin Phillips
Take off your tinfoil hat. The initial "no records" comment could have been a simple mistake made by a company member under (understandable) duress.
As someone else pointed out, Occam's Razor holds. Kyoto Animation reviewed what the man-boobs "wrote" and quickly realized it was shit. Aoba didn't take the rejection well, hence the immolation of the studio.
The only sad thing is that the POS didn't experience even a fraction of the pain and suffering of the KyoAni staff and its family members. His death at the end of a rope will be quick and merciful by comparison.
Nathaniel Howard
It was Dekomori and Kumin.
Nathan Thompson
isn't he still in a coma?
David Johnson
no! i fu kinh read it! its facto
Noah Hughes
>The initial "no records" comment could have been a simple mistake made by a company member under (understandable) duress. Also, who the fuck remembers the author name attached to every single submission to a competition? I sure as hell don't remember every single name I come across in the course of my work.
Nathan Wilson
Shinji "Steal a story, it's gonna get gory" Aoba >Shinji "Take my book, prepare to cook" Aoba Shinji "Steal my novel, burn in a hovel" Aoba >Shinji "Not published in your magazine, let me get some gasoline" Aoba Shinji "Steal from a fan, I'll empty my can" Aoba >Shinji "Take my profits I'll burn down your office" Aoba Shinji "Act like a Jew, I'll turn you into BBQ" Aoba
Sociopath always like to bait people that are just with this stupid shit, he killed people, he doesn't deserve to be called human anymore, so he shouldn't expect to be treated as a human anymore,
Daniel Cook
How can Yea Forums's trolls stay this fat?
Henry Moore
Is this guy a schizo? Or just wants to bait?
Nolan Wilson
>chuunibyo would be the thing they stole from arsonist. Oh cool. 10 years ago he sudenly realized and got angry. Seems legit.
Jeremiah Howard
>he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed That's not how it works. If you submit your novel/project to a company for a competition. Even if you don't win, they have the rights to use it. It's a shitty rule but that's how it is
Joshua Lee
Why is this dude acting like the light novel industry isnt just copies of copies of copies?
Jackson Hall
Kek >Shinji "You owe me a lot, it's gonna get hot" Aoba >Shinji "Plagiarism leads to smoke inhalation" Aoba >Shinji "Piss off a writer, he'll reach for his lighter" Aoba
Jayden Martin
>you post your drawings on Twitter >user reposts them on Yea Forums >your burn down ISP office
Nolan Butler
Chuuko
Joshua Bailey
Don't bother trying to reason with libertarians or worse, ancaps.
If in doubt, assume retarded. Even if it does turn out to be bait, they're still probably retarded anyway.
Owen Perry
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed. yeah after he's executed for killing 40 people
op stole my idea for this post i need you guys to give me his address so i can rape his entire family(+pets)
William James
the guy was a panty thief should he have gotten executed for that he also attacked his neighbor before he should have gotten executed for violating the NAP
Sebastian Gray
moeshitters in damage control
Lucas King
Unlikely. He'll hold a kill count record. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executions_in_Japan The previous highest count, the sarin gas attack, only killed 29, and it was 13 people, so 13:29 vs 1:35. He's totally going to be executed.
Luke Reed
Even if plagiarism was proven, wouldn't he still get hanged? While some anons might think it deserves the mass murders of 35 persons, I doubt the tribunal will think like that.
Xavier Hall
OP lives at KyoAni, so ganbarre, user.
Sebastian Gomez
>the novel submitted by Shinji Aoba was formally eliminated from the contest in the first round of judges’ evaluations haha what a loser
Christopher Robinson
Kek these are great
Kayden Hill
Funny how hypocritical this board is, when artists don't want their arts to get reposted elsewhere they're called entitled and whiny but someone murdering 35 persons because muh rip off is fine.
Isaiah Thomas
you think hes ok with rape or burning alive??
Liam Bell
How the fuck is informing people, in any way, equivalent to approving of the attacks
i hope they make grilled cheese out of him cant w8
Robert Allen
The thing is there's still nothing to suggest that they plagiarized anything. They may not even still have a copy of his works and even if they did, that's for the police, not the media feeding frenzy that'd take place if they released it. Nobody, other than spastics on Yea Forums and in some comment sections, honestly believes that his claim of plagiarism carries any potential weight.
Benjamin Harris
Is burning alive for plagiarism a normal legal standard?
Caleb Robinson
Ah yes, the heinous crime of being accused of plagiarism.
Jackson Collins
They don't release execution videos and such.
Austin White
The burden of proof is on Aoba and his advocate, if they plagiarized anything then prove it.
Josiah Rodriguez
So he was the good guy all along? Fuck Kyoani
Jordan Clark
In Japan, it now is.
Evan Russell
the one that's getting the fire squad LOL
Jayden Lewis
They're trolls probably
Dominic Russell
Stop whispering huntercunt
Owen Williams
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed. Being a LN author is just more reason to hang him
Cameron Perry
It's really interesting watching Americans try to comprehend a mass killing where the attacker isn't being combed over for the media and fetishised like most mass shooters are. The Japanese press hasn't been the most responsible ever over this but it's still doing better than most US media.
And this is relevant to the murder of all those people why?
Liam Parker
Intellectual property is the greatest crime against humanity after usury.
David Long
It means that it was justified self-defense.
Ryan Brown
>"We never received anything from this guy's he's crazy" >Police search his computer >"O...ok we did receive something but we promise it was absolutely nothing like anything we made after it" >"No you can't read it just take our word for it"
Chase Jones
I don't give two shits about Kyoani's anime or company. Murdering people over plagiarism, be it real or not, is not justifiable. If we could forgive murder that easily you piece of human trash, you would be fucked, mark my words.
Kevin Allen
It's same arguements retards use to say Adachi did nothing wrong
Isaiah Murphy
Once the NAP has been violated any retaliatory action against the aggressor (KyoAni) is allowed. Since he went after the office itself his actions were justified.
Joshua Sanders
I'm going to justifiably tell you to fuck off.
Cameron Richardson
Dude even if the guy did get his shit stolen by the company he could of done literally so many other things then literally commit arson and in doing so kill 35 people which probably had no relation to the "theft" since they were animators, don't go posting stuff like this it shows that you're on the side of a guy who in the end still killed 35 people cause lol my shit was stolen.
Jaxon Perez
How about you die in a fire instead user
Brody Davis
Well they stole his shit user, it's not hard to understand
Jacob Carter
Why the fuck would they have to prove it to you, though? That's the problem of the police and the killer's lawyers. The court of public opinion isn't an actual court. And for that matter, why would they even own up to getting something? And if they did use his ideas, why wouldn't they just give him an award and be done with it? The entire purpose of the competition is to find new content. The amount they pay out is a pittance compared to what they could stand to make.
For that matter, what show would you even propose they stole from him? They've made virtually no anime-original properties in the past couple years, with everything else accounted for as a light novel.
Josiah Gomez
Well arguably he was defending his property from misuse, so yeh I guess you could argue that
Dylan Williams
This, clearly sign of damage control and kyoani trying to hide their scam ln contest. They went from total denying -> hiring lawyer - > we received an entry from him in 2weeks
David Robinson
I'm justifiably laughing.
Samuel Thompson
Don't bother, these people don't actually give a shit If this is fair or not, If they did, they would actually care about the victims, they just wanna rile people up with this shit
What's the point of Kyoani plagiarizing his work? If anything Kyoani would want another author for their lackluster LN imprint.
Colton Collins
>One "winner" >Several hundred losers you can steal ideas from and not credit Shinji-kun was justified IMO
Chase Carter
Looked down your pants did you?
James Adams
You still didn't answer the simple question of what even could've been stolen. You don't have many shows to pick from, you know. Or maybe you don't, crossboarder-kun.
Grayson Ortiz
It's not strange at all they didn't release a draft novel that doesn't belong to them you fucking retard.
Nicholas Cooper
Plagiarism is worse than arson IMO
Zachary Martin
I guess because tits:
Luke Rogers
Yeah it's just sad to see just like trolling about this shitty stuff
Julian Green
samefag Trumplet
David Flores
>It didn't belong to them and yet they used it anyway Hmmmmm I wonder why Shinji ended up burning their office down
Christopher Campbell
Speak up son you're not on your asmr channel now
Parker Jackson
Maybe, but not worse than straight up murder
Bentley Campbell
It's possible they don't even have a copy to release, they probably don't archive everything someone shits into the first round of the competition. The police might have the only remaining copies.
Daniel Lee
Arson and murder are not an appropriate responses to plagiarism, shithead. Fuck you even if you're trolling.
Gabriel Cox
I was going to say that someone should burn your basement down with you in it, but you are so forgettable and insignificant to anyone that no one even knows who you are or would even bother incel trumplet-kun.
Cooper Ward
how do moralfags always get baited so hard?
Caleb Johnson
Nice summer thread you have there
Elijah Howard
"Murder is worse than Plagiarism" ok fixed it 4 you user, got ur back bud! ;)
Tyler Williams
It's because of anonymity, they like the power to say stuff they couldn't normaly say, so they just show their true colors here, imagine If people found out the shit they all said on the internet under anonymity
When you have beliefs and you stand for good it's hard not to get angry at you little edgy nihilists. Try being less of a garbage person in your next life summer redditor.
Isaiah Evans
This board is filled with pedophiles and sociopaths. You people make me sick.
Alexander Nguyen
They are absolutely justified. Think about it, the stronger the reaction from the artist the less likely the plagiarist (and any other companies in the future) are to do it in the future. Shinji-kuns actions have made the world a safer place for artists in the future, since anyone who might steal their work might have second thoughts as they might get KyoAni'd. It sucks people died, sure, but intellectual property rights are important too.
Jonathan Ramirez
I read "pedophiles and socialists" and that was more sickening to me than the sociopaths, to be honest.
Liam Wilson
>191478987 >Kill 35 artists >I'M HELPING ARTISTS
James Myers
Because only good people fall for this, sociopaths don't, that's why they like to keep posting crap like this to make people angry
Sebastian Richardson
I'm going to murder you to make Yea Forums safer from shitposts. Does that sound fair to you? Don't answer, because I don't care. Enjoy your grave.
Owen Cox
>Claims to stand for good but defends theft Reddit-kun are you lost?
Jose Martin
Ive been saying this for the longest time, kyoani awards are a scam
Jason Edwards
yes yes it does.
you send stuff to them so they publish it and you get a cut. they publish it and you dont get a cut. you take it up with the higher ups they tell you to fuck off you go above them they tell you to fuck off they stole your ideas and your money their fair game to be torched
Angel Mitchell
They were collateral damage. It sucks, but if anything it only makes Shinji's actions more potent in defending future artists. Think of them as sacrifices, or martyrs if you prefer, to the defence of intellectual property.
Mason Sanchez
And now 70 kyoani staff members paid the price for it, with half of them dead.
Levi Adams
Don't expect any sympathy from us. Worthless people who never ever was willing to put in the slightest effort to create something will never understand intellectual property issues. We're too addicted to our hedonistic lives we now tell each other that we're owed everything from artists, studios, creators etc and we will keep reinforcing that mentality as economic class divide grows, affording us even less ways to "support" anime and manga.
Oliver Thompson
A writer's IP is his life. I'm not saying that what he did was right but it's easy to see how a writer would get that furious if you were to scam the right of his IP away from him.
Michael Thomas
Stop acting like a dumb retard. But in case you're not acting I'll spell it out for you. No one in this thread is defending theft. Normal, healthy people are attacking murder. You fucking baiting imbecile, I loathe you. Also you waste of fucking faggotty oxygen, I've been on Yea Forums since 2007 and I've never posted on reddshit so you can fuck off, get a job. Have sex.
Dylan Nguyen
i think koyani did good in steeling his crap novel they did it better IMO
Gavin Long
This. They took everything from him, what did they expect him to do.
Isaiah Rivera
I think what's more likely that he did what all shitty writers do at some point, saw a vaguely similar premise and assumed it was totally because he had a somewhat similar idea once. How many people over the years have been 200% convinced they came up with Harry Potter first?
Alexander Baker
did it better, all that matters.
Andrew Myers
thank you for your service moralfags. your contribution to both society and this thread is wholly appreciated
Connor Richardson
>victim blaming ok trumptard
Jack Allen
So you think KyoAni should be able to steal whatever they want without any repercussions? That doesn't sound like something a 'good' person would say, Reddit-kun...
Kayden Campbell
based redpilled
Isaiah Wright
Shinji is the real victim in this.
>Had his work stolen >Took revenge >KyoAni turned all fire alarms off that day for some retard reason >People died (KyoAnis fault) >He gets put in prison >KyoAni make millions in sympathy money
Jordan Scott
triggerd^
Colton Jackson
And now KyoAni won't have to pay a salary to 35 people anymore. Everything's going according to keikaku. Note, keikaku is Japanese for plans or whatever.
Kayden King
if they can make it happen shure bud!! even better if they make it work, heck yeah i support them even more now! lmao
Jack Powell
k
Cameron Smith
honestly he deserved it he was a dumbfuck for even giving them content
Dylan Foster
Attention whoring edgelord
Jaxson Collins
triggered^ LOL
Brandon Flores
>parents and family abandon you >government won't help you >forced to "rob" a store just to get a roof and food by going in jail, nobody gets hurt >with basic survival ensured, work on fixing your life while in jail >write a heartfelt story >a company known to be progressive and kind tricks you >steal your lifework, make millions >court won't even look at your case due your criminal past This was a man pushed over the edge by society itself, and his path to ensure protection of the next generation of writers won't get assfucked like he did.
Joshua Gray
True self doesn't exist and anonimity certainly don't reveal it.
John Johnson
No u
Jayden Sullivan
you'd think he could of killed him self ages ago
Joseph Butler
will we get to see this guy's manuscript soon?
Brody Torres
HAHAHHAHAHAHAH OH NO YOU GOT ME!!
Christopher Perez
Boo hoo too bad for him Nobody cares btw
Robert Kelly
F.
Poor Shinji
Caleb Williams
nah we already saw it if koyani had anything to do with it ;)
Daniel Cooper
Where in your story would you add stealing panties?
Dominic Kelly
KyoAni will never release it as it will show they ripped him off and that his actions were somewhat justified
more like they should, so that they can show us how much better they did it. that fuck wad had trash and koyani prob turned it in to gold
Benjamin Jackson
I'm honestly surprised amateur-hour-kun succeeded at killing anyone at all. You have to leak your manifesto before you attack. If you want people to believe they ripped off your novel lay out the case on paper before you murder people.
Kevin Powell
That's for the sequel, when the big panty industry gets busted for stealing panties instead of making new original ones
Joseph Ward
"im glad they did" fixed user
Connor Morgan
Hello population bottleneck and descendant incest
Jayden Rogers
>rape is always out of line Not if they rape you first. You rape them right back.
Daniel Young
But clearly by stealing his work and not crediting him, they have violated the NAP and no matter how good they made it, they still left themselves open to justified ramifications.
They should have just paid him a pittance, then it would have been ok to publish it if he agreed (and he probably would have since he was poor)
Grayson Adams
k
Parker Hernandez
"Not if they kill you first. you kill them right back." fixed it for you user
Angel Peterson
Cite your proof they actually stole it, though. There's like, three recent shows from the studio that weren't directly based on known LNs that you have to choose from.
Tyler Peterson
"they" are not the fucking wagies
Isaiah Morris
Nothing justifies murder of 35 people, cretin. Moreover, the very idea is incredibly unlikely, considering the guy was a waste of oxygen in every possible way and never accomplished anything, I have a lazy and delusional sack of shit relative who is convinced he's invented the concept of self-organizing networks, but his claiming it obviously doesn't make it true.
Grayson Ward
Do you rape them after they rape? If you're both raping at the same time I don't think it would be rape anymore (unless you're getting raped by a loli I guess)
Michael Jackson
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed Nope.
Camden Green
NOT IN MY PIRATE LAND BITCH!
Matthew Scott
They stole Shinji's work of life, so Shinji stole their life of work. It's pottery.
With contraception, morning pills, easy abortion, and governement welfare, rape is pretty much meaningless, and is still consider as some heinous crime because it can be used as a legal weapon against men to smear and defame them due to antiquated and obsolete victorian era patriarchal moral.
If there is something criminal about rape, it is assault, but not the sexual act in itself.
Gabriel Barnes
It's all hypothetical until KyoAni actually release the work, but there's something very fishy about them stating they never received anything to going full latest mode and stating "oh yeah we did receive something but it was nothing like our work" once police started combing through his computers.
I have a feeling KyoAni will never release his work, which pretty much indicates they stole it, violated NAP and by extension were directly responsible for the fire that killed their employees.
Zachary Turner
k
Jose Clark
>kyoani haters are literal psychopaths and schizos >Yea Forums still tolerates them Permaban these faggots already and report them to authorities. Most of them are a ticking time bomb like the Aoba faggot.
Liam Sanders
Collateral damage that was made infinitly worse by KyoAni deciding to turn off the fire alarms that day. Had the alarms been working no one might have died.
Levi Price
they fucked Shinji in the ass and then made mad money It's POETRY. fixed it for you user i gotchu!bud
Cameron Powell
Have you considered it's possible that in the chaos surrounding the attack and approaching half of their workforce being unaccounted for, they didn't have a complete picture of the situation? Additionally, if they did release it, then they really WOULD be releasing something they have no right to. They'd be doing the one thing they've been accused of in order to meet your criteria for proving they didn't.
Carson Roberts
k
Hudson Myers
Get yourself raped in prison and then come back to pontificate. Let's see how you like it.
Landon Jenkins
Guys, it's commonplace for Japanese to steal from other Japanese.
Look at ZUN. Most of his early work was stolen from elsewhere, yet Touhou is one of the most successful franchises in the world.
Or they released both statements in good faith, first unknowingly and then after investigating. It's not a stretch to say they never got anything from the arsonist if all he did was participate in a contest with some amateur shit that got rejected over a decade ago.
Brandon Bennett
t.roastie You wish you would get raped.
Joshua Miller
If it was submitted to a competition they have the right to release it. Not publish it for profit, release it.
Cooper Jenkins
Holy crap, this looks like utter shit. I totally would understand if somebody torched that ZUN guy for releasing something so displeasing to the eyes.
Gavin Howard
That's it, I'm burning ZUN's house now.
Caleb Cruz
Only if they actually stole his work of course. That's the only scenario where he's the victim in all this.
If they didn't steal it then fuck him.
Nicholas Butler
Muh intellectual property. But don't mind me pirating my chink cartoons though
Samuel Kelly
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed. Yeah if he had just filed a lawsuit. He literally killed multiple people and caused insane property damage over works of fiction. If it's discovered they did steal from him then he should be told he was right before hanging the bastard
Cameron Evans
Except for you know that whole fire at the base of the fire escape thing and that piece of shit spiral staircase.
Camden Brown
What did they steal from him? WHAT?
Parker Smith
kyoani can make it better, if they can make shit better they NEED to steal!. thats how it works i will still buy their shit. fuck shinji/orw/e/hiscrapassnameis hes still getting the GOODOLD FIRESQUAD!!! hahahah you are all still faggots.
Kevin Hughes
They stole his light novel, which was his soul. So he stole their life.
Ian Myers
Didn't you hear? A lack of evidence for something is itself evidence for something. Apparently.
Easton Bennett
If they stole it then it's a NAP violation and the fire was the responsibility of KyoAni
Camden Russell
I don't know what world you live in where plagiarism is considered an equal crime to mass-murder. Even if the higher ups in KyoAni decided to plagiarize his work, the ones who died would mostly be innocent animators.
Chase Sanchez
His novel. They one they admitted they received after lying initially
Liam Long
I've got over 40 screencaps of this. I'm not going to flood the thread, but ZUN has traced other manga, ripped entire sprites from other games and redone them, and everyone knows about his music that sounds very similar to other songs before him. The Japanese community is well aware of how much of a hack ZUN is and still likes him because it's Japanese culture. Only Americans live in delusion trying to defend him erroneously.
Lmao, believing the word of a schizo. Even more reason to send the mentally ills and recidivists to some remote island and work them to death smashing rocks.
Joseph Baker
It's not about the severity of the crime, but who violated the NAP first.
Kevin Evans
I've have seen many things have concepts and ideas similar to ones I had in the past. Doesn't mean they copied me.
Evan Jones
I didn't realize Yea Forums advocated for the justified immediate murder of each and every anime pirate for violating copyright.
Asher Clark
So the brown one.
Mason Cruz
>NAP violation That's not how laws work because no human society would be dumb enough to enforce some vague NAP that lets you set people on fire if you feel they maybe ripped off your unpublished novel, and the notion that 30+ lives is worth as much as some pussies unpublished draft is literal autism. He deserves the rope. he's getting the rope.
Austin Jenkins
Because ZUN is actually based and everybody loves his works
Cooper King
Even so, how do you justify the killing of innocents with nothing to do with the supposed plagiarism?
Gavin Walker
"me saying dumassshit makes me wanna rub my asshole" user you need to slow down i can't keep fixing all them post for you, give me a sec bud plz!
Adrian Thompson
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed. Call this rddit hugbox or whatever the fuck you want. There's a boundary between trolling and actually being a psychopath. This is Yea Forums or Yea Forums levels of derranged.
James Sanchez
ZUN is a well known for copying other people music. Just go listen to Remilia theme with Beethoven Sonata No. 8 "Pathetique", 3rd Movement. The difference is ZUN work is a doujin work made for fans and sold to fan. Kyoani is a big corporation producing works to sell for profits.
Hudson Morales
WHAT NOVEL?
Leo Long
Nobody really plays danmaku. They're only there for the armpits.
Evan Anderson
>should be released he killed 33 people you fucking retard, of course he shouldnt be released. paid royalties *maybe*
Henry Cox
we will never know... no one will give you an answer because they are all retards.
Carson Robinson
A novel where an otaku torches down the workplace of some animators that work for a studio in Kyoto.
Wyatt Bell
Don't reply to the NAP autist. If you bumped on him he'd claim you violated NAP and have you burned at the stake for it.
Mason Baker
Millions of Touhou fans would say otherwise
Justin Bell
W8 shinji STOLE THAT FROM REAL LIFE SOME ONE NEEDS TO KILL HIM!!! oh w8 nvm he will be dead soon enough.
Adrian Robinson
lmao bump
Zachary Cook
And barely 1% did cleared the first stage, but their peepee still got sore after all that furious fapping.
Elijah Jones
NAP
Logan Collins
NAP
Camden Collins
Soon being 20 to 30 years, while he gets provided a living place and food by the state.
Joseph Murphy
Are you implying that's a bad thing?
Nathan Williams
same as dead to me, fuck that guy
Jordan Bailey
See
Cameron Collins
We live in a society.
Owen Campbell
>Make the most generic shit ever >Get shot down right off the bat >Someone uses a generic trope that both of you latched onto >FUCKING RIP OFF >STOLE MY DONUT STEAL OC >Better kill a lot of innocent people instead of hiring a lawyer because that makes my case better! Literally OP is as derranged as the arsonist.
Xavier Wood
NAP.
Gavin Phillips
NAP violations have to be intentional.
Jack Ramirez
Rape is literally not that bad.
Carter Jackson
NAP,
Jaxon Diaz
He killed 35 people, he is going to be executed, user
Carson Moore
nAP
Ethan Gutierrez
k
Oliver Foster
Nobody is denying that. It's just that soon can still mean decades away.
Eli Jackson
And we can't wait for that day to come
Christopher Rogers
Intentionality cannot be objectively determined as it is entirely dependant on subjective perspective. As such until mind reading technology become a reality, all aggression should be considered a violation of the NAP as a precautipn measure.
Isaiah Young
LMFAO I'm having to much fun. the idiots defending fuckfacemurdeguy are retards.
Ian Gomez
Justice
Nathaniel Hughes
The theory is the arsonist sent in a novel about gay swimming, and Kyoani then made an anime about gay swimming without crediting him. So the arsonist burned everyone to death.
Daniel Cox
NaP
Liam Wright
he should have torched kyoanidrones' houses as well tbdesu
Adrian Gutierrez
>ITT: edgy teens and manchildren
Elijah Adams
Or just straight up sociopaths, this being the anime board, i think it's the former
William Garcia
k
Nicholas Nguyen
nah.. they just need some one to call their moms so they can go to sleep.
Connor Johnson
k
Carson Brown
>fat >glasses >retarded >wrote a shitty novel Confirmed.
This Either it's edgy American teens or zoomers from third world countries like China and Australia
Oliver Thomas
bump
Aaron Butler
>this being the anime board Most posters in this thread are crossboarding shitposters who don't watch anime.
Noah Sullivan
literally can't agree more.
Andrew Perez
Quasimodo's gypsy bitch. Partly because she was burned at the stake. Okay, entirely because she burned at the stake.
Jayden Evans
No, that's not the theory and never was. Free is based on the light novel High Speed. The idea that some fat incel otaku would write a story about fujo swimmers is nonsensical to begin with, but underage Yea Forumsedditors pushed this rumor because they don't actually know anything about anime or kyoani.
I am mostly refering to the Hunterkeks, that shitpost here, they are goddamn sociopaths
James Williams
I imagine society would function better if that were the case, unironically.
Lucas Fisher
Fuck. His cellmate should have shanked his useless fat ass back then.
Aaron Jones
Oh, fuck off, you are not even trying. He was working in jail on his novel and High Speed was published before he was arrested. You need to try better with your baits.
>crossboarding shitposters who don't watch anime You're referring the fans ot Kyoto Animation, right? Cause that's the quintessential Yea Forums and /ic/ studio. Art school dropouts who make excessive use of Adobe Aftereffects in a desperate attempt to make their mess look good. Nobody who actually watches anime or has respect for animation as an art form cares about the fate of Kyoto Animation.
HAHAHHAHAHAH oh the strings WILL BE ATTACHED HHAHAHAHA
Nicholas Wilson
More like speculation. The examples above are not convincing either. The remilia theme repeats only the first 2 measures, there are only frequently used moves in music (arpeggios for a quartext chord and descent down to a third). Plus she is completely different stylistically and compositionally. piano-kun
Brayden Fisher
NAP
Noah Williams
>they pushed his bottoms massively I hope his cellmate pushes his massive bottom incessantly.
Easton Campbell
Based FUCK this fat piece of shit The day of the rope can't come fast enough
Connor Diaz
no first he needs to sit in his assrape jail then hang
Robert Howard
Shinji "check out my man tits, or I'll burn you to bits" Aoba
Camden Ward
It's fucking embarrasing that the mods let this shit stay up until bump limit and get archived. Everyone involved should kill themselves.
Grayson Rivera
k
Jaxson Richardson
Piece of shit mods can't do their jobs right
Julian Campbell
It's related to anime. Why defend a plagiarising company so hard bootlicker.
Brandon Lewis
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed. Here's the (you) you crave so much you fucking retard. And NO, copyright infringement is not good enough excuse to get away with a fucking mass murder so fuck of with your Yea Forumstier bait and kill yourself.
Camden Butler
STOP FUCKING SAYING NAP. KUMIN SENPAI KEEPS GOING BACK TO SLEEP MID-SEX.
Jordan Butler
Kill yourself.
Jaxon Perry
>"No you can't read it just take our word for it" So you expect police or KA to RELEASE the fucking LN without author's permission for the whole world to see? You're special kind of retard anonymous.
Owen Hernandez
It's going to become evidence at some point in the court case, so it'll be released to the public record anyway.
Jack Barnes
Violation of the NAP would put the blame for the fire at KyoAnis feet though, wouldn't it Reddit-kun?
Aaron Cruz
If it was sent to them they can release it, just not for profit.
Daniel Hall
>i have no counter argument worth shit, better start slinging memes and mention bogeymen Fuck off retard. That will be ok according to law, doubt there will me more than an excerpt or two.
Jaxson Powell
>NOOOO KYOANI DID NOTHING WRONG IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY HIM All this means is some talentless hacks working at kyoanus stole some mentally ill person's work and said crazy asshole proceeded to burn a bunch of inocent people because of it I can't believe how far some retarded studiofags can go to defend their shitty studios
Landon Williams
[citation needed] And something more substantial that 'it's usually like that in literally contests' would be nice, like the actual rules under which the work was handled.
Jacob Barnes
I know you are just fishing for (You)s but I will entertain you. By raping someone you don't tresspass only on their physical integrity. You also damage their dignity in sexual matters. So yeah, the sexual act is also criminal and is an integral component part of the crime. By the way, brutal rapes leave pretty fucking huge injuries. So in those cases, you can't even commit the sexual act without really assaulting someone.
Ethan Rogers
>If it turns out they did steal Shinji's novel he should be released and paid all compensation and royalties owed. That's not how law works. He killed 30 people.
John Barnes
I will have some chashu rice on that day. Who wants to join me?
Isaiah Morgan
I don't see how it would. People are agents, not events that happen due to you having acted. Every person is responsible for their own actions.
The crazy person could have filed a lawsuit if he was not crazy.
Christopher Ward
SOUND! GLOCKENSPIEL, the story of Komiko Youmae and her high school marching band.
Wyatt Gonzalez
>spend the rest of his life in Japan prison (which is hell-tier) Looks like a fucking hotel compared to third world prisions.
Gabriel Powell
My man, they could've directly stolen it and it wouldn't justify anything. Not in the least because all the people who died would definitely not all have been involved or even know about stealing his work. Fuck off.
Samuel Bennett
Preferably by scaphism
Jose Myers
Because they violated the NAP and stole his novel. That puts the blame squarely at KyoAnis feet. The people were collateral damage to his rightful retribution. It sucks they died, but if they stole Shinji's work they're responsible.