Why couldn't Nasu just write something with a cool setting/characters like this?
Nasu's the one who created the original character setting for Lord El-Melloi II. He debuted in Complete Material. But that's really all he did. The ones who ended up fleshing the character out are Urobuchi (Fate/Zero) and Sanda (Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files), as well as a few cameo roles sprinkled here and there by other authors. Even though Nasu was the one who created the original character settings, he's never used Waver even once in any of his stories.
In Mahou Tsukai no Yoru: Witch on the Holy Night, Rail Zeppelin was mentioned when they were talking about Touko's exploits.
Nasu is great at coming up with characters/concepts/settings but mediocre at executing them.
Angel Thompson
Generally, the protagonists of his stories are all novices. They don't really know much about magic or anything. They often have extraordinary talents or circumstances, but they're also cut off from the greater "world". There's usually at least one expert, but that expert is never the main character and is often in a position where they either can't or won't solve any of the core issues.
What Nasu doesn't seem to want to do is write a story where the protagonist is an expert, or one where the protagonist is surrounded by too many experts. Also, he seems to fundamentally prefer writing in a Japanese setting. He could have made Japan a more significant nation in relation to magic, but he deliberately made Japan one of the "boonies" of the magic world.
Isaac Perez
you fucking secondary, what of the part of him being the supervisior don't you understand? he always works with the writers together, he tells them what to do or what to add, same for the characters heck all atomic scenes in the novel was written by him
Lincoln Cooper
Has Nasu even written anything except for some minor FGO stuff and Mahoyo (which took several years to write) in the last 5 years?
All he does is get royalties for fate spinoff these days.
Parker Walker
"supervisor"
His policy is that anyone doing a fate spinoff can write whatever they wants because they all occur in different parallel worlds. See what happened with fate/strange fake and Narita. Nasu deliberately avoided working with Narita to make sure the canon matched up because he just doesnt give a shit.
He probably spends less than 4 hours a day "working" these days now that he gots so much money from FGO and other spinoffs without lifting a finger.
Jaxson Gutierrez
Is this the same Nasu who "supervised" Arthuria being translated to "Altria" for FGO? He just doesnt give a shit anymore.
Caleb Watson
He's allegedly been making progress on the Tsukihime remake, but the last time we heard anything about it was I think 2015. He also wrote a decent chunk of Fate/Extella Link.
2015~2019: Fate/Grand Order (wrote the prologue, 4th, 6th and 7th Singularities, Temple of Solomon and various events) 2016: Fate/Extella (co-written with Sakurai Hikaru) 2018: Fate/Extella Link (co-written with Sakurai hikaru) 20??: Tsukihime Remake is still being worked on. Allegedly.
He's been pretty quiet this past year, though.
Robert Diaz
Last decent thing to come out of Nasu was Kara no Kyoukai so it's probably for the best.
On top of my head he wrote some parts of Orleans, Camelot, Babylonia, Time Temple, Last Encore, Extella and Extella/Link (with Sakurai or Link is written by Sakurai and Higashide, i don't really remember). Also for FGO >The interview moves on to discussing Nasu’s role in FGO. Nasu says that as a writer, he handles the chapters he is in charge of, the voice lines and intermissions of servants he is in charge of, and events when it is his turn. Next, as writer supervisor, he handles each chapter’s intro and outro and parts that are critical to the main plot (such as lines and important scenes involving Roman, Da Vinci and Mashu in part 1, or lines for Goredolf, Da Vinci and Sion in part 2), and checks and revises other writer’s work, which is usually 20% of event scenarios and 30% of main scenarios (he notes that this has fallen to 10% from chapter 2 of part 2, since the writers got an idea of part 2’s atmosphere from the first chapter and he wants to give them more freedom to explore their themes). Finally, as director, he looks over the schedule, proposes event content, and oversees and adjust various in-game data
Blake Turner
Also, it's said that he often adds to or rewrites parts of Singularities and Lostbelts not explicitly written by him pretty extensively. It's said that the script can increase exponentially in thickness once he's done with it.
Isaiah Lewis
Mahoyo came out in 2012. Also Clock Tower 2015, Garden of Avalon and a book for Last Encore.
Cooper Evans
So nasu is fucking rich right? grand order was number 1 in profits for mobile games last time I checked, so even with sony or whatever taking a big ass cut of the profits, there should be enough trickling down to him to make him not have to work on anything if he doesn't want to
Thomas Martinez
>So nasu is fucking rich right? He and Takeuchi are making "fuck you money" and to think, this all started because a salaryman let a NEET sleep on his couch and write his vampire fiction without asking for a dime.
Xavier Long
Well he's passionate about writing. I don't think he's lost that passion yet. It's just that I guess he's not writing what Yea Forums wants him to write so they accuse him of getting lazy. It's the age old Yea Forums addage, "If I don't like it, it doesn't count".
Camden Turner
>to think, this all started because a salaryman let a NEET sleep on his couch and write his vampire fiction without asking for a dime. nasu is living the dream
Nolan Carter
>Nasu >writing anything in FGO after part 1 Please, he copies the plots and elements of the games he played like V3, Undertale, Bloodborne and Sekiro.
It's more like he came to his house one day and said >"Nasu, come live with me. You don't even have to pay rent or get a real job, just write whatever you want and I'll take care of you." Which later became >"Shit, why aren't people reading your webnovel? It's because it doesn't have advertisement? Nasu, form a doujin circle with me. We'll make a VN together and sell it at Comiket as advertisement for Rakkyo! You just stay home and write. I'll draw all the CGs and also work part-time during the day to pay the bills. What? No, you don't have to get a job, just write. I'll support you." And later on it became >"Tsukihime was a hit and Kara no Kyoukai's gaining steam. It's time to go national. I'm gonna start a company created for the SOLE PURPOSE of publishing your stories! I want to create wonderful stories with you forever!"
And then they got married and lived happily ever after. All of that is (mostly) true.
Samuel Miller
>minor FGO stuff He wrote entire chapters of FGO that are quite long.
Anthony Cruz
Unironically. I don't think FGO would actually require that much writing for each individual person and the amount he'd be making would be massive.
I don't want to deflate your sails but Fate by it's very definition is Nasu copying myth and history, him taking from games is just taking ideas from more modern sources.
Oliver Roberts
Nasu wrote every single prologue and epilogue in all Lostbelts.
Daniel Jones
Sounds like Takeuchi is the bro everyone wishes they had. I wish people believed in each-other like Takeuchi believed in Nasu, the world would be a much kinder place if that was the case.
Easton Lee
His chapters are usually the longest. He's always been bad about that. Part of the reason it took so long for him to debut was because whenever he entered his stories into contests, they were always rejected for being too long.
Evan Foster
Takeuchi is Nasu's number one fan. He pretty much fell in love with Nasu's stories since they were in high school. He loved Mahoyo and Fate from the prototype stage. At the same time, he's a pretty vital part of the process since he also functions as Nasu's sounding board. Nasu's writing quality tends to take a dive whenever Takeuchi's not working directly with him. They're strongest when they're together.
You might say it was... Fate.
Caleb James
user, I respect you and say this next part with the most love and kindness two anonymous people on the internet can have so I say this with a heavy heart but please kill yourself, that pun was terrible, it hurt me, it hurt my dog, it's pain lingers even as I typemoon this. Puns are the lowest form of humour and you are not only debasing yourself but myself by doing them.
Everyone know that the remake's development cycle is fitting for dead apostles, the only ones who can enjoy the true Tsukihime experience
Cooper Morris
>Nasu's the one who created the original character setting for Lord El-Melloi II He just took some pnp settings and mixed them together. As a writer he is shit.
>Fate 15th Anniversary news tomorrow. So what will they announce
Dominic Taylor
information about the exhibition, that's for sure. and maybe new project too, but keep in mind that ufotable hasn't said anything about that stage (they're only involved with the HF3 stage) so probably no new anime adaption.
Why hasnt any of those interviewers asked Nasu the elephant in the room : "hey, why has it taken like 10 years for you to write the tsukihime remake?".
Ryan Hall
Jesus Christ. 14 years in the making, is the Tsukihime remake the Duke Nuk'em Forever of VNs? The last Eva movie and Haruhi season 3 will come out before the remake if things stay like this.
Jeremiah Bennett
I remember him mentioning something about how he lost interest in remake when Hisui's VA died.
Elijah Flores
Nasu: well you see, to have perfect remaje you need to have a lot of passion and time. A decade isnt sth long. Just wait and your patience will pay back >proceed to use money to wipe his sweat
Luke Cook
I doubt it. Not even Mahoyo, which had the highest production values ever, was voiced. Tsukihime Remake (if it ever gets released) will have no voices too
Brayden Gutierrez
IF remake happens, hopefully Nasu realizes his mistake with Mahoyo and actually include voice acting.
I used to not care for Wada's art or anything else, but she really is one of the few TM artists who still puts in effort. If she's also one of the few who still cares about Tsukihime, all the better. Good for her.
Nathan Gutierrez
Prologues of the first two volumes were adapted, but also extended with original plots to make them full episodes. The kid Reines and Waver talk ended up quite nice and made for a good episode 1, but the extension for the cat story, which was originally but a mere anecdote to shed some light on Waver's character, was pretty weak.
I don't know the first thing about directing, but I feel the cat stuff would have worked better as a set up near the start and a resolution (ded cat) at the end, with an unrelated plot in the middle.
>knK >pretentious edgy wankfest that was only somehow fine thanks to ufotable adaptation >decent >am i contrarian and pretentious enough Go finish your summer homework and don't forget to put that fedora on your empty, underage skull.
Ethan Cooper
Nasu never cared about his works, consistent fluff or writing though. Tsuki and original Fate are completely composed of popular trends of the time and Extra gave us digitalization after SaO/LoG became mainstream.
You have to understand this, Nasu doesnt write anything that isnt already proven mainstream or wont make money
Asher Lewis
>flesh out character >he's never used Waver even once in any of his stories. What the fuck are you even talking about? flashing out who? waver was created and fleshed out f/z, the fuck you are spergin out? >Why couldn't Nasu just write something with a cool setting/characters like this? Exept he did, which is why you have all this shitfest to talk about. The amount of literal retards in this place is just painful to witness, it's like you fucktards don't even bother anymore to make any fucking sense, just fuck off to leddit or something.
Levi Bailey
>He debuted in Complete Material. What is reading comprehension.
Matthew Hernandez
HA is great fuck you
Zachary Nelson
Waver debuted in Character Material, apparently everyone is retarded.
Cameron Richardson
Let's be fair here. El Melon the Sequel debuted in complete material, but his identity as the nerd Waver and his backstory was probably all from Butcher with Nasu's blessing.
Michael Long
Character Material outlined his basic story and character and Nasu helped Butcher write F/Z so it's kind of redundant.
Joseph Ortiz
Someone should have showed him Twilight's sales numbers to convince him Vampires where on a all time high a few years ago. Then maybe Nasu would make the Remake and Tsuki2. Or maybe Tsukihime Alternative with a genderbent cast
Tsukihime movie with a script written by Stephen Mayer?
Adrian Jones
Wada and Pako are probably the best FGO has at this point
Evan Cox
i'm 30% fate route and i finished tsukihime a week ago. i watched fate/zero, fate/kaleid, deen fate, ufotable ubw. read the 4 novels for strange fake and 2 novels for case files. which series should i start after? extra (psp) or apocrypha (LN)
Justin Moore
butcher wrote f/z during fsn development right? he had nasu check everything too
Noah White
Are there any subs for this that aren't Vietnamese Google translation?
Juan Ramirez
Extra, but use cheats because it's a fucking chore to play
Grayson Price
the only subs that exist nowadays are vietnamese google translations or HS fansubbing is dead
Eli Bell
You should watch/read KnK.
John Baker
HS rips this from CR, who are the aforementioned Vietnamese Google translate subs I mentioned.
Gabriel Morris
No, he was a big fan of fsn and asked Nasu to write the prequel.
Fate was never about fighting for grails or about servants, this is what GO gets wrong. What made F/SN good were the themes about morality and self sacrifice vs selfishness. Shirou's development, the exploration of his twisted worldview and his dynamic with Kirei and Archer. The best characters in F/SN are Shirou Emiya, Kirei Kotomine, Kiritsugu and Archer (nameless hero) for this reason.
This is also why F/Z is the only good direct spin off of FSN, because it understood what made F/SN good and built upon it.
The 3 main focal points of Fate/Zero are kiritsugu's morality (and how it contrasts with Shirou's), Kotomine awakening to his true nature (which finally made Gil an interesting character instead of the Saber orbiter/Psychopath, because all he was in UBW was a psycho), and Saber's idea of kingship vs Rider and Gilgamesh's.
Diarmuid Ua Duibhne (Zero Lancer) is handsome and charming and he reminds Arthur of one of her knights, someone she was very close to, she is in a good mood and lad banter feels right. Lancelot (Zero Berserker) is plagiarized from Diarmud's legend. Arthur treats Diarmuid Ua Duibhne different from every other servant because in a way they are not strangers. Lancelot and Diarmuid Ua Duibhne team up to fight Arthur a few pages later so even the people that are maybe not as smart get this spelled out for them.
Every other spinoff of Fate has always made the critical error of focusing on the idea of servants, and they've had some pretty cool ones like Vlad and Karna, but they all lack the thematic linchpin that actual makes the story worth reading.
Apocrypha tried to have a theme of salvation and how it is achieved, but neither Shirou Kotomine nor Sieg were good enough characters to make it work. And the side characters were either forgettable (every master save Sisigou), or wasted potential mostly relegated to pointless fights.
Wouldn't he kill anyone to achieve his goal and not otherwise? It's a pretty clear cut case.
Samuel Evans
I dunno, killing some little girl seems kinda cold blooded
Oliver Smith
Kiritsugu doesn't give a fuck.
Gabriel Hall
That's Kerry's MO though? F/Z spends ages banging that point home.
Colton Green
Wait, the panda has been resurrected? Or is it just Alexandria shit?
Levi Evans
Where the fuck are these wavergang pics coming from? Where do I find it.
Brayden Phillips
Oh no, she's got a case of KFC (Kayneth's Fried Circuits)!
Kayden Barnes
It's too soon for them to reveal some Spring Song key visual right? Seems like the natural thing with the kew visuals for Presage flower and lost butterfly on both sides.
Jonathan Green
Is there some release date? Last I heard it was somewhere spring 2020.
