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How would they do in Nasuverse?
Brayden Perez
Bentley Garcia
Would be funny to see Jotaro ORAORAORA the shit out of Saber.
Joseph in Tsukihime would be hilarious too.
Zachary Cox
The only one worthy of becoming a heroic spirit would probably be Jonathan, and even then he'd be a mediocre servant
Kevin Perez
Aren't people with the Jacob's Limbs basically the Jostar line in the Nasuverse?
Gavin Phillips
Jojo is stupid and boring.
James Taylor
no u
Jose Edwards
Shirou would probably take it for her.
Christian Fisher
Imagine Jotaro telling Rin to shut the fuck up.
Adrian Myers
Apart from Jotaro and Giorno is there any Joestar who could solo the holy grail war?
Cameron Nguyen
Jonathan would be nothing but a gentlemen to Saber.
Aiden Torres
I just realized Shirou is Jonathan except he's a fag.
Easton Bailey
How many jojo threads we need?
Angel Sanders
All of them, sweaty.
Nicholas Myers
11
Hudson Ramirez
OTP
Juan Sanchez
How would Jonathan fare against Berserker? How many lives would he take off Herc
Jackson Hill
We need to fund this
Zachary Parker
Does Add ever meet Rin?
Kevin Wright
IMAGINE
Henry Price
Considering Herc would be decently above or around Tarkus tier strength and Jonathan manhandled Tarkus like nothing. Probably quite a few actually. Whether he'd actually win is debatable but he'd fare better than most.
Wyatt Ward
I always found extremely funny how Fate Herc is probably the weakest of all of the Herakles in fiction. Disney Herc would mop the floor with him without breaking a sweat.
Gabriel Hall
I remember first hearing about how the guy has 12 lives and thinking he was such a badass. Kind of a letdown
James Robinson
Beginning - Noble gentleman
End - two gayboys and a now a girl
Justin Thomas
Would Jolyne and Mordred bond over sounding the same and their daddy issues?
Aiden Edwards
They would become BLACKED actresses together.
Jose Nguyen
Hot
Jason Garcia
Nah.
Grayson Perez
i know next to nothing about fate, but can't humans not hurt servants? so wouldn't only stands be able to hurt them and vice versa? would servants even see stands?
Jacob Evans
Let's say they can see and hurt eachother.
Christian Brooks
Yeah society's fucked up but at least we have jojo
Sebastian Ross
can any servant beat GER?
Austin Lewis
Servants are actually pretty weak compared to other bullshit in Nasuverse.
Michael Cox
Can the other bullshit in Nasuverse beat GER?
Adrian Lopez
I think it would end up as an infinite neverending fight.
Austin Turner
What about the Shikis?
Jose Johnson
What can they even do against GER, dumbo? Maybe Third Personality Shiki but all she does will go back to 0.
Parker Jones
Gae Bolg?
Leo Bennett
afaik
>can not miss the heart, no matter what, ever
vs
>no
what takes priority?
Jason Morris
Are you stupid? Even without GER Giorno would be able to dodge it just like everyone else. Gae Bolg is just so shit.
Isaac Gutierrez
Gae Bulg goes on forever as does the no
Jack Sanders
No since gae bolg will never be thrown.
Aiden Davis
Technically GER makes it so your action never started in the first place, hence it was never thrown so it can't miss
Tyler Parker
ok, so what about cursed arm? he doesnt even need to touch you
Caleb Wood
He will never do it.
Dylan Rivera
Hassan will never activate his NP.
Lincoln Wood
I'm gonna explain GER in simple terms.
Imagine you're playing an MMO, and Gae Bolg is a skill with a cooldown where you throw the spear, it locks on, and no matter what it will always hit and do damage.
In that case, GER would force you to immediately suffer packet loss upon attempting to use said ability. The server is never contacted with the truth of "I pressed the button to use the ability," and so it never registers, meaning you never actually throw Gae Bolg in the reality of the MMO despite initiating the command to do so IRL.
Jeremiah Mitchell
Damn. Gold Experience looks like a douche in that picture
Jonathan Nelson
That’s life for you I guess
Joshua Walker
Typical fate retard that has never ready anything from nasuverse prior or other than the retarded gay horrible trash cancer that is fate, otherwise you would have basic grasp on conceptual powers like mystic eyes of death perception.
GER makes it so that intended result of the action is never achieved, this can manifest in many ways but the end result is that whatever action was about to happen becomes impotent. The most extreme example of that is that he can kill you in such a way that you will keep resetting your own death just before you die but once you are about to die you will relive your death again never reaching the result of your death but infinitely experiencing the process of "Dying".
An easier example is just canceling actions or powers, you attack him, he removes the result of your action, thus it did not harm him.
Jordan Howard
This is what a TRUE TYPE MOON FAN looks like. Alpha all around the board.
Brandon Turner
>Servants
What stand could defeat Ado Edem.
Dominic Gutierrez
The World Over Heaven.
Lucas Mitchell
What does it to again?
Ethan Davis
It becomes as strong as it has to be to defeat the opponent with one hit, that includes deities etc.
Though the bigger/stronger it gets the more earth it destroys in process. It also somehow represents the ultimate truth of humanity, our endless potential and the truth of how earth is meant to be, which is why when it is activated in the post apocalyptic future the sky around it turns into blue and grass green, showing ye olde earth.
Samuel Phillips
Sounds like BS, has it ever been defeated?
Gavin Reed
Too bad you can't beat GER with strength or power.
John James
It's unknown
We don't know that, because Slash Emperor is also a conceptual weapon, it doesn't literally just hit you stronk, it hits you with the ultimate truth. Now the metaphysics of JoJo and Nasu-verse are too different to determine what would win, something that removes the effect from cause, or something that represents the ultimate truth no matter what.
It can be argued both ways, like you could argue that the slash is an action thus it can be reset, but you could also argue that using GER is forcing reality and thus is fake/unnatural to how it is meant to be to some degree thus Slash Emperor would be unaffected by it since it has an aura of "how it is meant to be around it".
Lincoln Myers
GER is like that half a press guy.
Austin Ramirez
That ultimate truth can never be reached
Thomas Cook
As I said it works both ways, when you start talking about conceptual shit like this.
Who would win, GER, a CHIM user, Azathoth or Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.
All of these are from universes with completely different metaphysics and it would be essentially impossible to determine who wins.
Noah Harris
Any ships happen?
Grayson Peterson
Giorno X Luvia
Jolyne X Rin X Shirou X Saber
Jotaro X Ayako
Waver X Joseph
Johnathan X Arcueid
Dio X Kirei
should i keep going
Bentley Nguyen
Go for it
Josiah Gonzalez
aight
Saber X Johnathan
Ayako X Jolyne X Rin
Arcueid X Dio
Dio X Gilgamesh
Kakyoin X Luvia
Polnareff X Medea
Shirou X Jolyne
Berserker X Dio
Ciel X Kakyoin
Dio X Akiha
Aoko X Giorno
Touko X Dio
Mikiya X Jolyne
Nathan Peterson
It'd be interesting if hamon worked on Tsuki vampires.
Anthony Mitchell
In Fate servant are not good at all (Angra/Gilles/Gilgamesh even Artoria the "perfect one" have madness) in fact the Grail summon them only as weapon
So even Dio Brando can be summoned un a Grail War
If Jonathan was summoned he would be the only one who haven't madness at all
Jason Price
Pucci summons Dio as his heroic spirit
Landon Lewis
So would their Noble Phantasms be their Stands?
Sebastian Fisher
Not that user, but that would make a lot of sense. If it were someone like Jonathan his Noble Phantasm would be something like Sunlight Yellow Overdrive, and Dio's being a time stop and him beating the shit out of a servant and resuming time, à la Jotaro beating the shit out of Kira at the end of part 4.
Landon Sullivan
Sounds awesome
Lucas Edwards
Literally fucking 0 you retarded Jojofag.
Jeremiah Turner
this is it
the worst thread on Yea Forums
mein Gott...
Cameron Diaz
Is there a higher powered Hercules than the Cannon Films Lou Ferrigno Hercules?
Jackson Watson
Boyz II Men if RPS Kid wins one game of RPS.
Adam Ortiz
Caleb Smith
Chaos War Hercules from Marvel.
Joshua Harris
Kek
Jack Long
Is GER just a better version of King Crimson?
Isaac Long
Pretty much yeah
Julian Adams
This isn't an Eva thread so that's impossible.
Robert Nguyen
Diavolo's prediction that he would donut Giorno is about as guaranteed as Gae Bolg. GER doesn't stop Gae Bolg from happening, it just makes the distance Gae Bolg needs to travel to kill infinite
Lucas Lewis
This is just sad
Owen Foster
You need at least an A-rank attack to even touch him and he's supersonic in combat.
Jonathon has nothing on that level.
Jose Ward
For arguments sake, if he's actually allowed to touch Heracles, he could actually probably take off quite a few. Alot of people forget how ridiculously strong Jonathan actually is.
Jace Smith
GER is just a foil of KC. KC removes the effects but leaves the cause (your bullet fires, but never hits). GER 'resets' the cause to zero, which in effect means you would have never even fired the gun, because you will never reach the 'truth' of being able to shoot in the first place.
Though I'm not autistic enough to know if that means you get stuck in a thought loop of trying to pull the trigger forever, or it just means you 'decide' to not do anything, and the whole time loop thing is simply something else Giorno can do on command.
Asher Carter
Fuck Fate/Stay ranks
Camden Turner
Speedwise, Jonathan kept up with Bruford who seemed to teleport when he moved(before he got a the boost from Zeppeli) and Part 1 Dio who moves at least at supersonic speed with hypersonic reaction speed. Dio in part 3 who is physically weaker and slower than he was in part one effortlessly deflected the emerald splash(not that impressive, all things considered but still should be noted) in a moving car with a casual flick. Not to mention Jonathan managed to outpace an explosion to shield Erina who was a good distance away while dying.
In terms of strength, Tarkus who Jonathan is explicitly stated to be vastly stronger than could destroy an entire cliff side with a swing of his sword along with his feat of lifting and demolish a massive boulder with Jonathan on top of it it with his finger. Jonathan also pulled three thick bars of solid steel apart to the point of snapping, and punched through Dio who was blocking him and freezing his arm at the same time. To compare, Star Platinum did the same but against a significantly weakened Dio and needed to catch him off-guard to do it. I'm not sure how that scales in terms of Servant strength myself though sense Fate has been pretty vague on how stats quantify but estimating A rank to being around building level or so than Jonathan should be damage him if we ignore the humans can't harm servant rule unless Hamon is able to touch Servants than that's just a whole different can of worms.
Cooper Howard
You're not understanding the function of Gae Bolg, though.
Gae Bolg reverses cause and effect, so that rather than the cause of attacking progresses to the effect of the spear piercing the foe, the cause becomes "the spear piercing the foe" and the effect becomes "thus the attack was made".
Since GER leaves the cause in place, but stops the effect, Gae Bolg's reversal of cause and effect makes it a perfect counter.
End result of the clash is that the spear is never thrust, but Giorno's heart is pierced nonetheless.
Gavin Peterson
The problem with this is that Jonathan has IIRC two methods of attacking: his fists and his sword. One of the key functions of Berserker's noble phantasm is that it renders him immune to whatever weapon last took a life from him. That's why the Servants best suited to fighting him are those with many different weapons, such as Gilgamesh or EMIYA.
Jonathan, I think, would take two lives from Berserker, but would then be without a way to harm him.
He could improvise weapons from his surroundings, but those would be mundane and thus unable to harm the Servant.
Ethan Reed
It gives him resistance to it instead of outright nullifying, but yeah, even then it pretty much might as well nullify it considering how potent the defense God Hand grants him after reviving from a certain attack. So yeah at best Jonathan can take maybe two or three life's if he's tenacious enough but that's about it since he doesn't really have any attacks that can let him kill Basaaka multiple times over in one go like Caliburn and Nine Lives Blade Works. Well, possibly a Sunlight Yellow Overdrive but I would highly doubt it.
Kevin Roberts
How strong are The World and Star Platinum compared to Jonathan post Zeppeli boost?
Nathaniel Hughes
>evolution of jojos is equivalent to the evolution of animu itself
>high-detail muscle shounen to waifus
Matthew Sullivan
Based
James Price
I mean they can stop time. That’s a pretty big advantage.
Grayson Edwards
Putting aside the fact they can stop time, I'd say they're about the same if slightly less powerful than Jonathan and Part 1 Dio who are stated to be equal in power and going off that with DIO in part 3 saying he's multiple times he's a lot weaker than he was back then to the point he's concerned about facing Jotaro and Joseph head-on who he gauges as still not being as big a threat to him as Jonathan was until he absolutely. Their absurd striking speed and the catastrophic amount of damage they can deal with that however gives them pretty big advantage over him - though to be fair we never really get to see how fast Jonathan is with his most impressive speed feats being outpacing an explosion while near death and landing over 40 blows on Bruford in 4 seconds.
All in all, I'd put them all around the same ballpark with one another either way.
James Moore
>Dio X Kirei
>Dio X Gilgamesh
NO GOD. PLEASE GOD NO. GOD PLEASE NO.
James Brown
Hopefully they bond over having the same voice actress.
Logan Bailey
>to a paraplegic
>to a autist with 4 balls
Tyler Miller
>Pucci is voiced by Kirei
William Campbell
>No wumen allowed
Carson Cook
God Hand also prevents him from being harmed from attacks that are B Rank or lower. Considering how stupid strong a B+ rank attack is it's doubtful that he can even harm Herc.
Sebastian Bailey
Damn
Evan Wright
It's two bullshit powers that can only be decided if there was a death battle between araki and nasu for who can decide on the canon.
Henry Sullivan
Jojo sucks and is only good for the memes
Logan Sanchez
Gae Bolg is almost always useless in it's own series, what makes you think it will fare any better against GER?
Cameron Campbell
Can't MEODP work on stands?
Parker Ortiz
and what about Fate?