Why are there actual retards on these boards that prefer Kengan Ashura over Baki?
>boring one dimensional characters
>horrible action with horrible paneling and no sense of impact
>author likely never trained a single hour in any martial art
>bland art
You would have to be a literal fucking brainlet to enjoy this soulless garbage, a single chapter of Baki characters eating or chatting has more passion and life poured into them than that entire piece of shit series.
Baki thread
Forgot to mention how Baki characters actually feel like actual people instead of a collection of shitty shonen cliches, not to mention the narration in Baki brings so much life into it.
How the fuck can anyone even like Kengan?
Kengan Asura managed to get an ending and stay coherent.
Baki went completely nowhere after the Maximum tournament, with Memetobe becoming top 5, the make believe fights with Musashi, Oliva becoming a jobber ( Any non japanese got nerfed ), the girlfriend powerup etc ...
It's just going nowhere since the Yujiro-Baki fight, tho it had its fun moment after.
And Kengan had a consistent translating team.
>Kengan Asura managed to get an ending and stay coherent.
What about Omega then? The author will milk this cow just as bad as Itagaki did with Baki, the only difference is that Baki actually has fun characters to follow.
But i agree that Baki should have ended after the Yujiro fight
>Baki characters actually feel like actual people
It's the opposite for me, everyone is just too much of a fighting autist to feel believable.
>horrible action with horrible paneling and no sense of impact
Are you blind?
>bland art
Are you blind?
Also, where are the new Baki chapters anyway?
Kengan just looks like digital shit, you can see the artist has no talent
Didn't read Omega, probably won't read it tho, because like you said i just fear it will be milked to death.
> fun characters to follow.
Which one ? They're all kind of one dimensional honestly, not as cliche as Kengan's one but they clearly don't feel like "Actual people".
Besides Oliva, which is the best boy of the series.
>Which one ?
Memetobe, Jack, Doppo, Hanayama, Yujiro
Doesn't matter if you read it or not, the point is that it's still continuing. If it worked like that then you can pretty much disregards everything after Baki vs Yujiro as well.
Retard
No u
WHERE'S THE NEXT FUCKING CHAPTER
I have it.
post it
Sorry, i lied.
Shibukawa, Jack, Motobe, Hanayama and Doppo. I could go on but Baki has a good amount of likable characters.
I'm crying and shaking and farting rn
I´ve read Baki all the way to Motobe vs Jack, I´m a bit burnt out, even if I like Musashi a lot. Is Kengan worth it?
> Is Kengan worth it?
No, it's just discount Baki, soulless garbage.
Kengan is definitely good and if you enjoyed Baki you will definitely like this BUT the brutal nature of Baki is not present in the series and there is a lot more comfy and comedy bits as well but they make up for it in the much better art. One thing about Itagaki is the art just looks strange even as someone who loves the series.
no
>Is Kengan worth it?
yes
shitposts about kengan in these threads made me check it
100% agree, its just bland boring shit, but only compared to Baki
>Is Kengan worth it?
It's fun, but it's not like Baki, it's more about the fights than the characters.
this
worst part of kengan is its fanbase full of retarded faggots spamming unfunny Yea Forums tier shit
This thread is just one guy samefagging, jesus christ.
All me
>27 posts
>12 original IPs
>30 posts
>13 IPs
Not samefagging retards, just replying to posts. You autistic faggots can't admit your series is shit.
>Yea Forums-tier console warfare
The only Yea Forums-tier shit here is the Kengan fanbase.
ironic
>yfw the samefagging retard hating on Kengan in this thread is just a scared Itagaki
Dumb phone poster, fuck off back to where you came from.
Kenganfags really are an embarrassment.
>Itagaki
>scared
dude doesn't give a shit
Not on a phone, retard. Capitalized 'Yfw' just isn't pleasing to look at.
>Itagaki
>Scared
Baki sold nearly 80 million volumes and he's pushing 60 years, dude is just doing whatever the fuck he wants.
>What is a joke
Are you guys ACTUALLY fucking retarded?
>i-i was just pretending to be retarded
You can't actually think I thought that Itagaki is on fucking Yea Forums. You're hilarious. Have a nice day being so miserable to hate a series enough to keep samefagging in this thread.
What a brainlet.
embarrassing
>but they make up for it in the much better art
What in the fuck are you talking about? Baki has way better art not, it's unique but it fits the series perfectly.
Kengan's art is just generic and the action lacks impact.
>shit art
>shit scans and made-up translations at points
>peak nippon wank
>meandering plot with no purpose after son of ogre
Yyeah, Baki is great lmao. Fucking pleb.
What the fuck, Itagaki.
>generic
>lacks impact
You have no idea what you're talking about.
I sure fucking hope this series ends with ayy lmaos attacking and Musashi reviving to BANZAI them into oblivion
Oh yeah retard lacks impact and is generic. Go smash your head into concrete.
Will Katsumi (Brazo derecho de Retsu) be top tier?
HAHAHA
>new chapter after a month
>10 pages
gee at least I'm not a Berserk fan ;_____________;
What a fucking mess.
SoO was peak, and frankly I treat Musashi-dou and Sukune-dou as high quality otherworlds or something like that. They're fucking fun as long as you're not a raging weeb, hooked on story and characters
Anons are outraged by this but lets see the stupid shit Itagaki has done.
>Speck gets has his throat completely destroyed and has massive blood loss yet lives
>Doyle gets his face caved in and within a panel gets healed up
>Yanagi can poison his hands and administrator poison to other people by touching
>Dorian has his spine, ribs and legs shattered but is walking about within a few panels in the hospital
>Sirkowsky gets punched off a building and lives
>Olivia smashes Doyles head on to the floor causing the entire building to rumble and is fine a few seconds later
>Doppo survives a bomb to the face
>Hanayama only loses his cheeks when explosives go off in his mouth
>Doyle has his spine destroyed by Olivia a hired killer who makes sure his victims are dead yet somehow Doyle survived
>Yanagi is a man who attacked Baki behind his back yet waits for Baki to finish having sex
>Dorian has a grenade in his stomach
>Retsu can run on water with someone on his back
>Dorian is a man who killed bodyguards for no disregard but failed to kill Kato
This is just from one arc and believe me I can go on but this series is riddled with idiocy and things that don't make senese but hey its an old series and people have to expect that from Itagaki.
At least Kengan makes sense and doesn't pull dumb shit like Doyle purposely going deaf and is stronger now that he has no hearing or sight. Give me a fucking break here.
>At least Kengan makes sense and doesn't pull dumb shit like Doyle purposely going deaf
Somebody forgot characters like Bando or Hanafusa, let alone the absolute bullshit like Muteba's heightened sense and Predator implants, Murobuchi being completely fine the day after getting blasted to shit by Waka or really just most of the weird shit going on.
Granted, Kengan doesn't have over the top bullshit like swole caveman sleeper holding giant sewer alligators (yet), but that's not necessarily good either.
Some of the things you are pointing out are just standart action manga stuff, like falling of a building and living or walking on water. It is impossible but still relatively
>"kengan has no impact!"
FUCKING STOP ALREADY. Why the fuck do you guys start a fandom war for every fucking manga. Fighting manga are fucking rare and don't have a huge community. Just read and enjoy both of them instead of having a retarded competition like Yea Forums or shounenfags. Both of them are unique and great manga
Guttu Ebuning
Mistaa Katsumi
>animeonly
lmao
relatively tame
>tfw the chink makeups of Motobe VS Frieza are now dangerously likely to be future canon
>itagaki's actually gonna do it
Yeah Baki characters have superhuman strength, what's your fucking point? Yujiro is a character that wanted to become the strongest in the world through physical strength alone and he defeated the fucking US army by himself
Clustered mess, the dude should really learn to draw.
Superhuman strength is one thing. Seemingly being immortal is another.
>clustered
You should learn English.
So?
>"Clustered mess"
you should learn more human anatomy, thats what the inside of a human looks like.
>Seemingly being immortal is another.
Keyword here being "Seemingly"
;_;
>Trying to pick a serieswar between two series passionate about fighting.
Why would we have to fight? Both are enjoyable and its not like you cant read both.
This, in a Yea Forums dominated by shounen its just silly to fight over two fine Fighting Manga.
I knew this would happen when the anime released
why did you have to remind me you monster
Sorry that I made it too hard for you to understand.
Ashura looks like all the characters are designed to be CG models
Baki characters have artistic style and soul
>Talks about anatomy
>Posts a fine example of Yaoi hands
>6'0 vs 5'11
Nice bait
>yaoi hands
Excuse me, what?
>pretending baki hands are better
Retard. Why does having superhuman resilience is so worse than having superhuman strenght?
If you look at baki characters they have scars and cauliflower ears
Kengan Ashura characters are prettybois
Kengan has too many fucking waifus and useless characters. All of them annoying and chuuni as fuck
Only the black merc and wrestling guy are based, rest are shit. With Ohma being one of the most dull of them all.
Beard is okay. Low-tier Baki character, basically on the level of the convicts.
is that retsu's arm?
kengans main character is covered in scars, and plenty of the other fighters are middle aged men with wrinkles and beards. you have no idea what your talking about.
We got those overall.
This pic perfectly represents Itagaki's knowledge of anatomy, he just often exagerates various parts of the body as a stylistic choice.
It's a manga, the over-the-top actions and super human capacities are accepted in the universe.
But there's a truth in your criticism, it's that there's basically no consequence in Baki ( Not like there's a lot more in Kengan ), after a 100 volume the only real impactful death in the series is Retsu's one, Jack is supposed to have "thrown away his future" 70 volumes ago, and only Katsumi was meaningfully hurted and not the same after a fight ( Doppo doesn't count his loss of an eye changed nothing but his design ).
For a manga that puts so much emphasis on the violence of its fights, the fear of death and shit, it's quite ludicrous how so few people have died or how quick they heal from "injuries".
Tho Kengan is not much better with how the author resurected a literal who with a broken neck.
also Ryan Kure and Dudley Adam look exactly the same, sucks.
Ryan was a pretty cool character too, but criminally underused.
author wanted to jerk off emo fags like ohma and that speed freak dude as well as the fang, it was obvious
and every criticism of kengan in this thread can also apply to that panel.
>two different mangaka has different art styles
oh wow, how is that possible
Baki and KA are different manga, trying to do different things. Stop comparing them in literally every aspect. Both are good in their own way.
Thats because if you just kill off characters you often loose a chance to use them again and do more with, something mangakas often avoid. Arguably Ohma actually dying at the end of Ashura was a move nobody genuinely expected to be done because he still had plenty he could be involved in.
yea, but baki is better in every single one of them so..
Bakifags are fucking retarded lmao
motobe is the best baki character
hanayama is a good boy, him defending Baki's love Life from creepy convicts was great
>Author wanted to jerk off emo fags like ohma and that speed freak dude as well as the fang, it was obvious.
>Literally all of those mentioned got a big portion of the humble pie served by Gensai.
Your arguments fall apart the second you actually read the manga and realize that Sandrovich normally gives each character some attention. Hell, the mans selfinsert is the Fisherman out of all people, and that one went out in round 1.
What's your argument?
You're all fucking retards you know you can pick both and enjoy both like me?
>not funny, didn't laugh
That you're retarded. Can't you read either?
based
Thats the supreme opinion, yes. This thread is basically one guy trying to get both sides against each other.
maybe i checked out when fisherman got bodied.
And then checked out again when the Hard Skull guy got killed.
All the good characters got wiped out and we had some pretty boring fights after that.
it's one guy arguing with himself
BASED and reasonpilled.
Baki is canonicaly girly
what tf is itagaki doing rn? i get that musashi was a "golden age of weaponry vs fists" but then sumo guy came and was like "nah sumo is the best". feels like he's jerking off to muh gloriosu nipon culture.
How much more of a pathetic samefag can OP get?
Yuujidog being the voice of reason as always.
You say that, but Sukune is one damn pretty guy, and we had a whole chapter dedicated to him making his hair.
he's been jerking off nippon martial arts since the introduction of shibukawa
OP here, haven't even posted in the thread in about an hour. take your meds schizo.
>old japanese guy loves japan
shocking
Yeah it's mostly the same guy pretending to be multiple and inserting strawmen into this thread to make it seem like everyone's hating Kengan.
It is shocking, whit*ids can't comprehend that since boomers hate their culture and country and are responsible for it's destruction.
>being this delusional
Maybe not everyone likes the things you do, ever thought about that?
How come everyone talks shit about kengans art when everyone in baki looks like a fucking whos from dr seuss?
Yeah but there should be a limit, it really dulls the fight a lot to know that every character will either be saved by Tokugawa or survive "just because"
Itagaki didn't even had the balls to kill completely those two Karate jobbers from Katsumi's school.
Thought about it for a bit and nah i don't see any reason people wouldn't love the same things as me
If Baki was a Marvel comic Musashi would be replace with Obongabonga the African grandmaster and Abdullah Mohammad, the unkillable Hashishan
Baki would be white, but he'd lose all fights against minorities
>How come everyone talks shit about kengans art
It's one samefag
Sure thing butthurt OP
It's quite obvious, looking at the way he (you) talks.
Ashura characters all look like they're CG models
Baki has an art style that machines could never replicate
El tigre bebé súper gordito y enojado
Based
Cringe
Seething
>"Ashura characters all look like they're CG models"
you say that, yet bakis CG is much better than kengans.
it reads exactly like the retarded shonenshit fanbase wars, just with Baki and Kengan substituted for HxH and whatever the fuck else
probably the same guy moving on to a different target
>this much cope
>Watching the Baki anime
Cringe
Abandon the troll thread you retards
>Forgot to mention how Baki characters actually feel like actual people
I'm pretty sure the author has never interacted with actual people, because his characters, their interactions, dialogue and all that, are weird and unnatural as fuck.
i already read the manga.
I've been a long term Baki fan, and it still baffles me how anyone can take it at face value and analyze it seriously.
Sooo is kenran worth watching?
I loved baki (all seasons) but the new baki season made me hate anything with CGI.
i wouldn't recommend it i stopped before episode was even done it was awful but give it a shot what've you got to lose
manga is better and they cut a lot of stuff in the anime
dont watch the anime, its complete shit and cuts out entire characters. read the manga.
Read the manga for Baki
kengan>baki
>more so realisticly proportioned art
>less superhuman ridiculous bullshit
>a story that had a legitimate end instead of continuously continuing it until it crashes and burns with fucking resurrected samurai
baki is still good but I want to read 2 people beating the shit out of each other and doing some karate shit that might be able to penetrate skin like a lance or how he can stop a speading bullet, baki takes a fucking stance a triceratops literally materializes and everyone starts talking about "the real vs the fake......who will win?!?!?!?" i honestly stopped giving a shit
Baki is a way older. Please, don't compare the first two parts of Baki with Meme Ashura
Bros, I've been reading Baki the Grappler manga and reached chapter 206 but the rest of the manga is not translated yet. I really enjoy Baki but I don't know wtf to do right right. Should I just skip the rest and go straight to the next Baki series? Would did you guys do?
the anime is total shit, read the manga
>"Baki is a way older"
your point?
you can finish the tournament by watching the anime
>it still baffles me how anyone can take it at face value and analyze it seriously.
I must admit, it certainly takes an above average knowledge of various sociological, literary and generally scientifical topics to have a somewhat acceptable discussion about the themes in Baki The Grappler™, penned by Keisuke Itagaki.
The uninitiated struggles to comprehend basic subtext and cotext (not context, mind you) of something as trivially mundane as the analysis of the human mind in the character of Pickle, the study of human primeval drives, scalies and fundamental need of acceptance of our animal nature in the Dopposaurus, one cannot expect most people to see the depth of outstanding statements about war and society made in the various chapters about the famous japanese swordsman (剣士) Miyamoto Musashi, or Tokugawa's edonistic and aesthetic research of the ultimate fighter.
In short, Strong is Beautiful.
Because Kengan Asura has Dumbbell nan kilo while Baki does not, which already puts a giant gap between the two.
>baki doesn't have based girl Togo
automatically worse
>baki
>Kengan
>high score girl
netflix chads... our time is NOW.
I hate it when the man posts whole fucking chapters where he explains wtf is going on and how the character is amazing using ridiculous numbers and pseudoscience while you see generic
>volcano
>preying mantis
>dinosaur
>tigers eye
bullshit on the pages
anyone hear actually braindead enough to not speed scroll through that bullshit after the 100th time?
Baki doesn't have the powerunit that is Sakura Hibiki, so there's really no comparison.
He's a bored old Jap, once you hit his age and paygrade you start wasting that money in the best place possible: Sumo matches. Itagaki's admitted to basically making up Baki as he goes, so he probably saw a few matches first and realized how much he likes sumo and now we get Sukune.
bullshit, even i as a baki fan admit that this is not the case at all
cheesy pseudoscience explanations are fun though. Baki wouldn't feel the same without them
Baki without long-winded rants by the narrator about pseudoscientific circumstances that justify why a character can spit so hard it puts holes in concrete isn't Baki.
Baki without the narrator is like a FKMT manga without characters describing any single detail of a mahjong match.
Kengan thread are as comfy as it gets
This.
this
cringe
cringe bro lmao seething nerds i swear!!!!
I think the popularity of Kengan in Yea Forums was thanks to the weekly storytimes. From the viet scans to the translations made by HnG.
I like Kengan but I still believe Baki is superior. The story, the characters, the deep philosophy behind the fights. Baki goes deep into different questions of martial arts and also offers new answers for old questions.
Besides, when it comes to dynamic fighting, nobody can beat Itagaki.
>fang
>gensai
>sekibayashi
>haruo
>akoya
>pretty boys
Wtf are you talking about?
Kengan Asura characters have actual lives and motivations, most Baki characters seem like they can barely function in society. Fighting is all they can really do.
But almost all of Baki comes down to 'Nippon strong, Nippon superior.'. Hell, fucking Olivia jobbed. Plus, he killed best boy Retsu.