Which fighting manga would Yea Forums prefer?

Depends on my mood, I will say though out of those I enjoyed Holyland the most and I'll never get past Baki's atrocious human caricatures

Where would you set Rokudenashi blues?

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Have to go with Philosophy with power level fighting. That one just usually has the best balance.

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Holyland and all rounder Meguru are definitely in my top 5.

Shamo is definitely the best though, artistically-wise (meaning including artwork and writing).

>tough
Why though? I read most of it, but it is more akin to a wrestling manga when it comes to the story telling and the writing.
>endless not-so-dead-brothers coming back from the dead to mess with the story
>bullshit bloodline story
>powerwank of the Nadasinkage-ryu
Still a fun ride, mind me.

>Realistic

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How about good paneling and choreography? An actual good fight from a fight POV?

My boy Joe was the first manga I read dealing with fighting that wasnt superpower shit and I never read another. The great tragedy of starting with the best you can never enjoy any others again.

>Philosophy with power level fighting
>Mindless shonen power level bullshit
That's quite the exageration.

You should check out Veritas although it got cancelled.

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So basically you read 1 (one) non superpower fighting manga, arbitrarly decided that it was the best of its kind (despite having read only a single manga of that kind)?
I sincerely hope that you weren't trying to look sophisticated or something.

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Oh poor man of poor English comprehension. I did not say it was the only one I ever read merely my first and only I enjoyed. That does not imply it was the only I ever read in fact the implication is I had read others. How shameful people still make posts over large reaching assumptions simply to start internet fights. Still. I mean fuck ive been reading various versions of this post for years.

>Acting retarded to make it look like you were baiting from the start
Nice try, dude.

My favorites are:
Ashita no Joe
Kengan Asura
One Punch man
Dragon Ball

Also, while it's not a manga, I think that The Breaker deserves a mention.

one with sexy girls wearing clothes that explode when they're hit

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One Punch Man is literal trash compared to other stuff you mentioned.

Dragon Ball is shit

No, that is Dragon Ball and Discount Baki

As far as fighting goes these two are among the best I have read. Both Toriyama and Murata are gods when it comes to choregraphy. Murata's art is plain gorgeous to look at and you really feel the impact of the punches, explosions, slashes in each fight.Toriyama's art, while less detailed, is simpler in a good way. It's not instantly understand how a fight is going and you spend next to no time trying to understand how the fighters moved between one panel and another.

Yes, One Punch Man is literal trash compared to Dragon Ball and Discount Baki.

AGI fags BTFO

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Murata's paneling is average at best though.

How is Kengan Asura Discount Baki?

this you can see it more clearly when murata doesnt have story boards from one

Beard BTFO of everyone to be fair.

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Those kengan dumps were the best. Why does no one do it for omega?

Average at worst but when he does have story boards from ONE the panels ranges from good to amazing.

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The hypest fighting

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Anyone read Kento Ankokuden Cestvs? Seems pretty good but there's also a sequel and I dunno if it continues to be good or it goes to shit

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You clearly don't know what paneling means.

If you think details are the only thing going for the image I just posted then I have some bad news for you.

Baki is exageratted semi-realistic shounen
While Kengan is more realistic

Dokgo>Tong>All

They do. Check weekly Thursday mornings burger time

There's one for Omega every Thursday.

there's literally no panelling in that page

So you don't know what paneling is then. That's a two page spread. It has literally one panel so it doesn't show any paneling, you retard.

God seeing that pussy whipped Rei power of love getting BTFO was one of the best things.

Bless Gensai.

Is there any good fighting manga left even?

Teach me fampai

I remember really enjoying Kenichi. That was a really fun fighting manga

I'm a little behind on the sequel but it hasn't gone to shit as far the fights go the current arcs a tournament arc the King put together with people from all over.
seems our cute slave boy is gonna potentially fight this guy.

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Teppu and All Rounder Meguru are my favourite fighting manga.

I wish there was more WMMA manga because it's fun interesting to see women fight like Hell.

X

4d chess mango

I was going to comment something similar but you saved me the trouble, as well posted that marvelous pic, so I can't do anything but thank you, random Hunter Chad.

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Paneling has to do with how well a page flows and how it guides the eyes. On this page the page starts on the right then pulls the eyes to the top left, similar to how the nail moves when unsheathed, then it guides you down straight to the speak bubble. It's simple to follow and has a clear reason behind it. Notice paneling has nothing to do with how good the art is.

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Zeke Yeager is looking fine here.

if I enjoyed the "psuedo-magic powers but fairly realistic fighting styles" aspect of Kengan, should I read Baki? The artstyle kind of turned me off but I've heard pretty much nothing but good things about it

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The fights in holyland are boring change my mind
>exciting fight is happening
>pause for 5 pages explaining technique
literally why, just show it, nobody actually cares.

holyland

Is paneling the number one aspect of mangaka?
One has godly paneling

It's not the most critical aspect but it's definitely a huge bonus, especially for fighting manga.

Garou in OPM has a lot of pleasing fights, as far as martial arts/choreography goes. Though, it's not quite like Kengan or Baki in how it goes about them.

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"Grappler Baki" era Baki is more even with Kengan. Also Kengan itself isn't that grounded either, you see stuff like people punching through solid concrete (and even harder in a couple instances) all the time in it

It's fine. Sequel has less Greek politics so far, scanlations are currently in the middle of a tournament that I swear is at least partly inspired by Street Fighter 2 (each character representing a specific nation)

Holyland is smarter, actually

The first thing I look at when seeing this page is the top-left though

Holyland is terrible.

This is why I couldn't finish Keyman. The paneling is awful and I had no idea what was going on

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>baki

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>one more day until the extended PS2 cutscene based on Kengan Asura comes out
I'm not ready bros

if the plot is good and actually details martial arts of course, most street fighting manga the authors actually know what they are talking about. when you actually fight you are not using a martial art you are fighting for your life. most marital arts are just philosiphies to go by.

Holyland was good, the character picks up something from each art and uses it in street fighting. I'm half and half for Kengan Asura, some of the stuff was pretty stupid, like when everyone was like during gaolong's fight "he doesn't practice muay thai but muay boran", the impractical fights though made it ok. Baki is kino, but musashi arc was dog shit. A mixture of Akagi/Holy Land would be pretty nice.

martial arts super power shounenshit is terrible and boring. don't rely on your fists when you can use a gun retard.

imagine having this animated by a notable studio

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or Muteba's ear-o-vision

>cestus
I laid eyes on you and knew you were my nigga

Yes. Its a bit nuttier with its stuff, like theres a caveman, and musashi comes back to life, but generally if you liked Kengan, you'll probably like Baki.

Note however, that Bakis plot is not as tight as Kengan.

This board is anime and manGa, faggot.

Basically every Garou fight is kino, and he fights smart. Still, not really as intricate as some other battle manga fights.

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To this day i can't understand Kuroro's power.

I don't like how Garou just tanks or regenerates all kinds of damage in every fight, he just as bullshit as Saitama in the manga.

>Cestus
I tried that one, but I got too much triggered about the intensity of making the reader clear, that a loss during a fight means death, which is historical bullshit and doesn't make any sense if you think about it.

>Murata
He has art but not posture and panelling. ONE is better at that.

>Murata

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Caught up on Meguru's scanlations lately and I really quite like it, as much as I dig Baki I'm starting to think that I prefer these comparatively more down-to-earth type series (that being said, this fight Maki is having vs the capoeira chick where the scans currently are at is pretty goofy), where fighting isn't some glorious life-or-death reason for existence but just a hobby/sport/commitment that drives the cast's personal development. My main issue with it is that I still don't really get what makes the protagonist tick and what he wants out of doing what he does, am I missing something here?

>Holyland is crybaby shit btw
>recommends Cestus
It takes forever to Cestus to finally grow a spine though

We need more WMMA anime and manga?

In manga only though. IRL it's fucking hell

Toriyama is overrated, his fights are boring

this

vagabond

dont you ever get tired of yourself

>hunter chads
youtube.com/watch?v=pUDUK-yvwQs&t=1s

JoJo does that, but better. That's why To-hack-shi loves ripping it off so much.

I wanna read Shamo but everything I keep hearing about it turning into a disappointing mess that retroactively ruins the story is putting me off

>shamo top tier
>with that third arc
Kek no

thats not how you read manga

which means the page has bad paneling because it draws your eyes out of order

Jojo fights are full of inconsistencies, jojofaggot.
Based.
OK, fag

Are you not used to reading manga?

Yeah, that page has bad panelling but it's not that apparent. Here's a page with the same problem but more extreme

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For me it's Dragon Ball Z, the greatest anime ever made.

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He steals powers, can save them in a magic book, can use more than one at once but can't stop holding the book, the power disappear if the original holder is killed.

That is the best way to keep the reader engaged. Treating it like the WWE or SJPW that gladiatorial fights were closer too lacks tension for a lot of people.

Whoever made this image is a moron that has no idea what they are talking about.

Read Teppu.
WMMA is too new for it to be good at this point. It doesn't have the roster that MMA has, nor does it have the weirdness early UFC and the like had to make up for it.

Normally I'd agree if there was dialogue or an action page, but it's drawing attention to the weapon which is important for the rest of the chapter and the first panel is there for continuity reasons. Also it draws the reader towards the bottom of the page. Unlike shit like this where it draws you eye to the dude right hand corner then leads left. I have no idea what the order of the panels are here

That page gets somewhat of a pass in my opinion because its a spread. Those aren't meant to be read so much as taken in fully.

Kiryu did more damage to Kuroki than Rei did.

Fucking Based.

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>recca

You and me are nigs

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I see what you're saying but the only thing that indicates that it's a spread is Overhaul and he completely ruins the sense of continuity that the page would have without him.

Holyland really went to shit from the mid point. That period where every week or two some new extra strong guy would show up to be fought. Does it pick up again towards the end?

I think Shamo can be considered top-tier fighting manga just for Ryu vs Sugawara fights, which were fucking magnificent.

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It's not a matter of not being used to anything. The top left panel is larger than the top right, it naturally draws the eye to it breaking sequence.

Koga is gettibg stronger slowly. I think if Sandwich continues Koga journed like this we have a good time waiting for us. Btw how the fuck do you even miss the weekly threads? Some last 2 days

Right now in Omega we had the most realistic matches so far. A far call from the first fights in the tournament in Asura

>those ugly digital effects
Absolutely disgusting.

Man of taste

so this is the power.. of a Huntertard

we prefer the term "huntard" thanks

At least post the fixed version. This is horrendous.

I stopped reading before that arc and it was a good time.

I liked kenichi first part

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There's nothing better than a fight between two beasts.

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Really? I've seen this opinion multiple times through the years but I don't think they are nothing special, really fun and enjoyable though.

i think rikudou is very interesting
"real" feeling fighting manga are generally the best, since the grounding makes our hero's wins matter more

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yeah it's really good but too bad the translations are too fucking slow

yeah i've been reading raws and sorta guessing what the general gist is
horrible experience

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this was too edgy for me
there's "real" and then there's stuff like this

it's not really that edgy. The first chapters are pure edgefest but it's about the edgy kid finding a purpose in life through boxing and turning into a wholesome kid

bad shit happens to riku but it works because he's generally a very nice guy and kinda weak. You root for him to succeed and that struggle in a higher weight class is made more powerful when looking at his origins.
if he was just a little bit edgy or "bad" the shit wouldn't work. He's also not a cry baby about it either

Pretty sure he's missing a set of bones here.

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It's worth it for the first 'arc', 2nd is a major pleb filter, and 3 is mindless fight kino. Keep in mind Yea Forums has shit taste; it's far above average.
Also this

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Teppuu is also pretty based. Slow start but it's a short manga so that's not such a drawback.
Can't wait to train my freakishly tall daughter to become a badass tomboy.

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It's a journey, Cestus eventually does grow up. And he's never as unlikable or whiny an MC as Yuu was throughout the entirety of Holyland.
Also making the Judo guy job first is a pet peeve of mine, so it didn't make a good first impression.

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holyland author guy has something against grapplers...
they're all useless and job constantly, even though grappling and clinching is basically the most devastating shit ever in a street fight.

>All this talk of fighting manga and Fist of the North Star hasn't even gotten a passing mention

I'm among fags, I see.

Hard to illustrate grappling well, KA is so far the best at doing so from what I've seen.
Probably didn't want to draw a lot of it so he made grappling weaker than it really is.

Don't you dare comparing shitty Naruto to godly DBZ, fucking zoomer shit.

FoTNS is a manga with fighting in it, but it is not a fighting manga.

None.

>Kengan Asura
>Philosophy
What did user mean by this?

You have to consider the fact that you are taught to read from left to right, and manga is made to be in a book form where you flip pages.

I know this post is really old but no there isn't. Several of Yujiro's punches combined (used by kaku kaioh) can create a big crater in an arena wall. Baki ever proclaimed that no human can do that punch. Meanwhile Wakatsuki can do that shit with one normal punch. And even someone weaker like Saw Paing can make a big crater in the ground with a headbutt. They are much closer to baki characters than you think.

Psyren had dope fights.
People have personal powers, and it still have some rules and structure to how you use them.
Its like hxh but without extreme text spam and consistent art quality.

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Honestly the only thing that made Adam vs Zeus good was Adam and his motivations. The fight in itself was just a punch spam until Zeus won. Ragnarok doesn't really have good fights so far.

Yujiro can stop an earthquake with his bare fist and defeat the entire US army who apparently have no weapons capable of harming him. Meanwhile Wakatsuki has a debilitating ankle injury that prevents him from using his strongest move repeatedly. You're talking out your ass.

holyland is based as fuck.

yujiro punched through the ground from a prone position with just arm strength

Holy fucking shit how could you have everything in reverse? You have worse taste than the guy from a few years back who wrote an entire essay on why Rahxephon was deeper than LOGH

>strongest character ever
>ran away from a punch characters like Waka and Julius can dish out easily
Even Young waka could create huge craters on the side of a mountain. Explain that shit.

all rounder meguru is the best at it, it's very technical about it, to the point of boring the uninitiated.

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Lets be entirely honest here, Itagaki doesn't really have too much love for America. It and every fighter in it exist to get fucked to death by superior Nippon in his shit.

Although I will agree that both Baki and Kengan are on completely different powerlevels, Yujiro especially.

You ever read manhwa? It's not my cup of tea so I'm not going to say it's all shit just because this is a Japanese manga board but I just get pissed at how the panels are structured because it's meant for dudes to scroll down with their phone so I can't enjoy them.

Is Holyland actually good? How does it compare to MK's other works?
I remember liking Suicide Island but right now reading Sousei no Taiga the only thing I can think is "holy fuck was this guy ever good?".

>hurr completely different powerlevels
Yujiro avoided this. Several of his strongest punches combined.

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idk, Kengan is fucking fantastic but not because of any perceived depth. Just because it's the most fun read

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it's a manga about mental illness and having huge issues with coping in general.
It's character drama first, and fighting second, which might scare away some people, but it takes the fighting seriously and comes from personal experience from the author.

The spergy tidbits of information and fact-boxes he puts everywhere is the best part of any of his manga.

Meanwhile YOUNG, WEAKER NOT IN HIS PRIME YET Wakatsuki can do this with normal punches.
Yujiro is definitely more skilled in terms of martial art and the like. But physical strength alone? Good luck.

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Powerlevels arn't really consistent in Baki. I mean Yurio's ILLUSION did this to Baki, and we currently have a dude who is able to crush coal into diamond. Hell Yujiro with sheer anger alone was able to shake a sky scraper.

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Out is where it's at user. Badass story.

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I found it to be really mediocre most of the way through but whatever that's beside the point.

Kengan for this page alone

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Yeah, people forget that a manga have to be interesting to read first and foremost, with no amount of philosophy helping if it is boring.

Dave from Osaka Prefecture, age 35: "I myself am a raper... I know the challenge of raping. To put it simply... What I saw that day was not possible by the laws of human limits."

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That's the thing. Itagaki is telling me that making an earthquake stop is less impressive than the punch Kaku did? Seems really silly.

But still, the fact stands that a punch like Wakatsuki's could damage him (I believe Kaku hit him and it made Yuji bleed? I might be wrong though), so in a fight he would not win as easily as everyone thinks.

Realistic ones

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Holyland is great but really have low level of fighting. The author did check up his facts but it's not facts about strong fighters. Holyland is about kids fighting in the street so it's still very realistic for the level of fighting they're at. I'd say they're 2kyu maximum for the best of them.
>the guy realising karate is better in low stances
Yikes~ after half the story he understand what his own martial art is about. Very basic

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>the guy realising karate is better in low stances
i read it more as him finally getting over his complex over his short height.
He tried to make himself bigger earlier in the manga, but finally feels better and can use karate to its fullest
might just be me, idk, they're pretty low level as you say

Yes but I'm not talking about the story itself but the efficience of MA.

btw the kendo guy should beat everyone.
woodblade >>> any kung fu

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The previous dude mentioned the breaker which is a mawha as well. Lighten up.

You should push through it, Keyman was one of the most kino manga I've ever read. The messy art/panelling gets a little better, and it was never in the truly unreadable tier of shit like Jabberwocky.

HxH fights are way to removed from actual martial arts to be compared with the examples in OP. Much like with JoJo, while I understand their appeal I read martial arts manga because I appreciate the basic concepts of CQC like technique, distance managing and physical fitness interaction shaping either triumph or defeat. You may find haxed characters twisting reality into a pretzel or whatever, but that sure as hell ain't martial arts.

Whatever category you put The Breaker in

>WMMA is too new for it to be good at this point. It doesn't have the roster that MMA has

The amateur talent pool is pretty big in WMMA. I already know and enjoyed Teppu. I forgot there was another WMMA called Hanasaka Flowers or something but that one is good too.

Women fighting is ok, what is not okay is these women frequently beating men to prove they’re “better, stronger” et cetera.
It’s a pretty gay way of showing strength.
Esp in the way they do it.
Sure a female fighter might get some subs on a guy, especially if he is not trying but it’s fucking retarded to think they’re even in the same ballpark
If the experience level is the same, the men crush women every single time, like its not even funny.

You can really tell the author cared a lot and it seemed like a really personal work which had a lot of weight for me personally, there are some kinda goofy bits though like everyone looking like a 30-year old yakuza. Probably one of my favorite manga desu

Thats not all that different than the small guy takes out the big guy shtick that so many stories do.
Its just part of the genre.

To be honest, I love all the three options for different reasons.

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Still the best.

>overrated
Arguably
>Boring
Nah, Toriyama is a genius when it comes to dynamic fighting and entertaining fights. The man on his peak was without a question, among the best artists of his time.

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Why is the title named Holyland?

The Recoome fight was great on its own, but it felt like a redo of the Nappa fight too much in context.

because we're all searching for our holy land

>I believe Kaku hit him and it made Yuji bleed? I might be wrong though
The thing is that Yuujiro decides to let Kaku hit him with everything and after that he decides to answer with his own power.

Up to date, its still amazing.

What's a good site to download mangas?

Fuko is so easily best female shonen character.

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It should be applied female fighting in manga. WMMA manga are very underrated and deserve more content.

The scanlators webpage, or if it has an official release, you might find it on nyaa.

I've been trying to find Teppu and a couple of other mangas that don't show up on Nyaa and it's been a pain in my ass specially with manga rock being shilled in my face.

It's nowhere near the same. Unless you fall into the fantastic side where literally none of this mathers, David vs Goliath type of stories in martial arts have real world precedents for authors to draw inspiration from (professional boxers going up two or three weight classe to challenge a champion and winning, Fedor Emilianenko vs Hung Man Choi, Midori Kenji winning limitless weight full-contact Karate tournaments standing at 5'5'' and weighting 70 kilos etc, whereas there has never been a case of a female fighter defeating a single professional male (even one smaller than her) under any recognized rule system. Lucia Rijker, who's widely regarded as one of if not the best female stand-up professional martial artists in history got her ass horribly kicked by some nobody male thai boxer in like two rounds, and he was just a couple of kilos heavier than her IIRC. Biology is a huge bitch like that IRL.

Where did you download it user? I've been looking for it but I couldn't find it anywhere.

Should I watch the anime or read the manga?

Yeah, Yuujiro might be pretty powerful but can he flip a log like based Sen?

Yeah, this was kino as fuck. I'm actually enjoying all the fights so far, though.

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While it has the bombast portion down, the lack of interesting choreography is a slight against the story.

I liked the straight up brutality of the Adam fight. The Kojiro fight is pretty flashy sometimes, though.

>The Kojiro fight is pretty flashy sometimes, though.
Probably my favorite page from his fight

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I realize that's not a very high bar to get over but she was really cool. Her fights where some of my favorite in the whole series.

The manga was sadly cancelled after the first major story arc, so I'd recommenced the manga.

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Just wait until you see the next chapter

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Ba-kino

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Fuko is probably only legit female shounen in Shonen Jump.

Blood and Steel is kino

based hunterchad

Recca wasn't published in Jump

That's a shame, from what I've seen the general visuals and animation look pretty good, as to be expected from late 90s-Pierrot when they were still consistently a pretty great studio. Could I just watch the show until it ends and switch over to the manga?

Well, You cooooould. If you wanted to it's around volume 16 so the anime covers about half of it. There are some small and not small changes that really add up to make it a bit of an awkward shift if you just hop over. I'd say read the manga from chapter 1 anyways just cuz it's good. Maybe watch the anime alongside if you want.

I thought it was published by Jump, then who?

Weekly Shōnen Sunday

Oh yeah now I remember

>the amount of people saying Shamo was good in this thread
Jesus fucking christ I knew Yea Forums had shit taste but I foolishly thought at least fighting manga would be spared. It instantly goes to shit after the first big fight with how ridiculously inconsistent it is, and only has one good moment after that in god knows how many volumes.
The ending being trash isn't even surprising, everything after his first big fight is. Fuck you all. May you die but not before your favorite manga all get canceled.

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I really tried to keep going but once it got to the monkey shit I just gave up

I love All-rounder so much bros.
How is the translation doing?

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>Toriyama is a genius
At getting dumbasses to eat up his tired shit

Karate Shokoushi Kohinata Minoru

Anyone have at which time does Kengan Asura anime starts?

>Toriyama is a genius when it comes to dynamic fighting and entertaining fights

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what manga is this?

nah its good

I only liked Meguru for the tomboy

The universe that Min has crafted in Dokgo / Tong / Blood Rain is super interwoven and complex but if you can't into korean names that part is completely lost on you on their own the parts rank from meh with high points to good but together they tell a great story

Now post the battle of two from the manga. And you will undertand why he is pretty great.

You post it, you want me to think it's not a pile a shit.

What? Peak Toriyama is fantastic regardless of what he is doing right now. Goku vs Piccolo is amazing in every way.

Hey, I'm not the one who brought up two images from the anime to try to prove a point.
I understand why the hatred against him but I think is absurd people pretend he is a bad mangaka. Toriyama is still one of the most influential and talented shonen artista.

Besides if you don't like him, that's alright. I'm just trying to illustrate that he was one of the best.

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for me its crowsxworst

Is holyland worth putting up with?
I read about 20 chapters but nothing's grabbing me, and the narrator kinda gets on my nerves for some reason

Yes, IMO the weakness of the author is the narration.

All-Rounder Meguru

The breaker kid literally took a magic pill though

>Mindless shonen power level bullshit
DBZ, Naruto & etc..

Naruto isn't mindless power level bullshit. Up until the very end of the show the fights had depth and strategy to them. Even naruto being the brainlet that he is had won a few fights by outsmarting his opponents: neji, pain etc. Shikamaru vs Temari isn't the only strategic fight. Sasuke vs Deidara was a mind fuck with all the genjutsu going on you would have to read it twice to understand what was happening. Shit... even the zabuza arc had naruto and sasuke outsmarting zabuza and kakashi outplaying him with genjutsu later on.

Fact: People only like Holyland because they self insert as the beta MC standing up against his bullies, which is what Holyland's readers consists of

>I think X is shit
>NUH UH IT'S GOOD, POST MY ARGUMENT FOR ME!

Toriyam's a hack who only got lazier over time and moved everything to barren wastelands so he wouldn't have to draw backgrounds

Its a story about having issues and overcoming them, with great struggle and effort through manly combat.
I know you’re trolling but if you can’t see the appeal you’re legitimately retarded

>I know you’re trolling

And yet you still replied

My favorite fighting manga ever written is Air Master.
It's fucking great even though the artist's style will probably make you choke the first time you see it.
It's got the best balance of pseudo-realistic fighting. No fireballs, no power levels, nothing goofy and fantasy like that. Lots of basis in real MMA or street fighting styles, taken to just the right enjoyable levels of near absurdity sometimes. Doesn't take itself overly seriously either but it has its moments too.

You must be thinking of Sun Ken Rock.

end of the show they're throwing planetary size ki attacks and toss celestial bodies at each other nigga what are you talking about? They make fuckking kaijuu monsters out of chakra lmao how hard can you cope for that shit series.

Sometimes I know my position is unassailable

You even speed read my single paragraph. Kys speed reader.

Batuque is still pretty new and the english translation hasn't gotten to the fighting part yet but I'm still enjoying it a lot and going through the raws the fights look good

Is that the one from Usogui? If it was then it might be good since Usogui is BASED.

Yeah it's from him, I like Usogui too and was the reason why I checked it out in the first place

I read the first chapter and something about the translation bugged me, dunno how to describe it. Seemed potentially interesting though.

Yea ik you said "Naruto." So you admit shippuden was powerlevel trash then?

why do u think so

First and middle.
Fucking lol

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Did you read Usogui in raw too? Mind telling me what comes after this battleship arc? It's pretty shit so far for usogui but still good overall. Was the next arc is as good as tower arc?

The translation is being done by a Chinese guy who still has some problems with English, recently he's picked up a proofreader so it's gotten better

Yujiro can literally walk through missile-proof glass, shake a skyscraper with anger alone, kick a helmet straight through the stratosphere, surpass Oliva and Hanayama in brute strength easily, overpower a giant elephant that literally tanked bullets and can step on jeeps, tank lightning, and you think anyone in KA can compete with that?
>but muh Earthquake is an outlier
Fuck off, whether it is or isn't is irrelevant when Yujiro has a ton of insane feats.

Also Spec did a similar feat towards the Statue of Liberty and he's not even worth a hair on Yujiro's ass.

The next arc after the battleship arc is a flashback about Baku and Leader's past

If you can't see the Nietzsche themes prevalent in Baki then you're a brainlet.

aaaand no response, right on time. naruto fags are the worrrsst

I loved Kenichi up intil the point where Odin showed up and had his magic barrier bullshit and it all went downhill from there. The masters were not just played for laughs anymore, we got a Save the country from terrorists arc, and it ended up just becoming magic.

kendo is fucking garbage

seething sea level iq faggot. 90% of naruto was strategic fights, you look at the 10% like it is the whole series. I don't have all day to argue with a child like you. You argue like a flat earther does and it makes no sense for me to waste my time on you.

Kenichi is literal shit.

>trying to reason with a hunterfag
don't

>G-guys i want attention too!!

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So what is your opinion on Ippo? It had some really good shit in it before he decided that barrel rolling was a valid move in boxing.

It was good at first. Fun intense fights, entertaining cast of characters, good feel of progression etc. then it ran over a nail and the author's been trying to drive on that flat tire ever since.

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I enjoyed this

Should I read Shamo?

It was good in early chapter when ippo was learning boxing then it became really bad when it was about Japanese spirit and oxygen

Sure.
It's good up until the twins and the retarded girl shows up.

The Chinese arc was very weird and felt the most out of place in the series imo

What a shame.

It's funny that Sendo was introduced as the guy who punched just as hard as Ippo but couldn't guard, and he actually learned to block and get his brain damaged.
Volg is best boy.

>kengan philosophy
What my dude? Where? The only piece of philosophy they had was straight up ripped from baki, kengan's barely surface level

Finally my boy Baku is back. Too back it's a flashback again. I'm sick of Kaji. Hachina is nice though but will he ever get his memory back?

>youtu.be/ZJchKbPBk-4
Is there any better fight than this?

I have no idea if he ever gets his memories back

>hachina
Who is that again? It has been quite long since I read the raw years ago.

Volg's title match or Sendo vs Ippo 2.

Hachina is the leader

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As the GOAT.

Fighting manga without delinquents may as well not be worth reading.

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Why is his Souichi persona looks so bad while Hachina is good looking?

Different hairstyles? That actually does make a huge difference.

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I like meguru cause there are a lot less japanese bullshit or secret ancient art

This, Kengan Ashura is uninspired schlock written by a guy who cares more about fighting games/manga than he does the martial arts.

It's still alright though.

BASED

Yeah kengan's not bad at all, problem is that both the daily releases and the Yea Forums threads made it more popular than it should've been so now we have retards who wank it like nothing before even if it's just flat characters in a tournament

hahaha so many fights were won just by naruto sucking then using his fox chakra to make up for his lack of skill/training/cunning/wit lmao.

Sry you watched naruto when you were 13 and now have to defend it to the death. Face it, it's a shit show.

(with up to 40% filler)

definitely mindless shonen power level bullshit

I think what bugs me about Naruto fights, at least insofar as the anime was concerned, any battlefield they fight on seems to triple in size from any establishing shots so they can have all those retarded running around like an idiot scenes

>problem is that both the daily releases and the Yea Forums threads made it more popular than it should've been so now we have retards who wank it like nothing before even if it's just flat characters in a tournament
Pretty much, same shit happened with Baki with retards trying to make it the next Jojo.

I hope the kengan love dies because I'm getting fucking tired of people waking it and saying that baki is shit and stuff like that.
Look buddy, I give no shits that you like kengan more, that's fine, but don't go around saying baki's bad because it clearly isn't.

t.seething

The chinese arc was plain filler, yeah.
The third arc was just ridiculous though. Suddenly they're fighting retards, taking in that homeless girl?

I'd go with

>philosophy and gore
Fist of The North Star, Berserk, etc.

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sauce

Fist of the north star philosophy hahahahahaahah

brainlet

>HNK
>philosophy
Ikes

Kurosawa

Rei literally was just running into his fists.

Kouya ni Kemono Doukokusu

That's a huge reduction from what I was saying and I can see the future of the discussion. There's no point trying to argue if I know your opinion is not going to change. I just made my statement, that's all.

>A sumo wrestler is somehow the next big enemy after a prehistoric dinosaur hunter, Ogre "The Strongest Being", and Miyamoto Musashi

Yeah, we're really doing great over here. I do prefer the series over Kengan, but still. I'd get if a sumo wrestler had showed up earlier, but now? Really? We're going on about how strong sumo wrestlers are after a guy that hunted and killed dinosaurs and someone that was able to basically swim through concrete from a position of complete inertia have both showed up? Unless they no-sell him like they did Ali Jr. we're only going to go down from here.

Realistic or fantastic as long as it have a coherent fighting system like Hxh or Jojo for instance.
The "power-level" fighting, just feels too arbitrary, there's nothing to make you believe that the outcome of the fight does not depends on the author whims.

And honestly the whole "philosophy and realism" of fighting manga alla Baki or Kengan Asura, is mostly a gimmick that gets tiring quickly like when in those twos, the author can't balance it properly.

Saying that Sukune is "a sumo wrestler" is like calling Musashi "some guy with a sword". He's meant to be the second coming of Sumo Jesus.
I'm not saying that's the arc is going to go the way Musashi's arc went but you're just being disingenuous.

Whenever chi/qi/ki is introduced I drop the manga immediately.

Shamo was really food until mangaka split with writer. Holyland was great all around

We've gone down since the end of the Maximum tournament, we raised a bit during the Prison Arc and the Yujiro fight, now we've gone down in a straight line.
Character have been powered up and downgraded too many times, for levels to means anything and fight be correctly hyped.

There's no more coherence.

Is there any realistic fighting manga besides All Rounder Meguru, Holyland and Cestvs ?

Especially Meguru, i wonder if the author ever competed because it's the only real "naturalist" fighting manga i've ever read.

HxH without autism? I'll check it out.

>t. seething filtered pleb

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I just finished it, the first "half" is fucking great.
I recommend you read the first half and just drop it after that, you'll know when.

This except unironically. (and pic related)

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How does it feel to know that the best character in TrashxTrash is a JoJo reference?

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Realistic with philosophy.
>shamo
>ippo
>young prince of karate
>vagabond
>ginpaku no seikishi
I've also been reading Fight Class Three, a manhwa about a school focused on combat sports

>reading karate shoukoushi
i wake
>reading karate shoukoushi monogatari
i sleep
That shit was super lame.

Toriyama really knew how to make a page easy to follow.

Holyland manga hits differently when you have depression honestly.

Kino.

I finally caught the last chapter of Boys on the Run and HOLY SHIT could that MC be more cucked?
Salaryman Uppercut's debut will never not be cool.

rikudou is one

Baki has nothing to do with Martial arts anymore. It's not bad but Baki the Grappler was the only Manga related to Martial arts. Baki is more in Jojo territory now

Baki is not bad but not really a Martial arts manga anymore

2edgy4me, it looked like a skyblog fanfic.

Well, good luck finding a guy who draws manga for 12-15 hours per day while also training and having a genuine love for martial arts.

I need a fighting manga that details weight cutting and issues with promoters, shit is wack.

Baki's author trained in wushu and boxing, Morikawa is a /box/fag ( A fucking casuals tho ).

And i would bet my right hand that All rounder Meguru author must either be a turbo /heem/fag or an ex competitor.

Sandrovich trained Martial arts for 15 years, his editor for 18 if I remember correctly. The guy drawing the Manga has no experience in MA

>ctrl+F clover
>0 results
How? Go read clover now mangadex.org/chapter/57539/1

well the reason that it's wanked is because it's not just flat characters in a tournament. the characters are well-written and have good development. the entire reason it's good at all is because of the characters so you must be speedreading if you think theyre flat

>Morikawa is a /box/fag ( A fucking casuals tho ).
He literally owns a boxing gym. Why lie?

thank you, kind user

He is a casual that tought Murata was actually good.
Owning a boxing gym doesn't make you less of a cazzie, especially in Japan with their horrendous coaching.

Have this and never use this small version ever again.

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Ashita no Joe.

It's got decent fighting and more higher level themes.

Most mangas rarely have both.

>31 volumes tl'd/43 volumes total
Why do you want to do this to me?

Holyland has some of the worst writing I've ever experienced in a highly-rated manga. The essence of the manga is weak, the premise is trite, and the art is mediocre. I find it crazy that it's anybody's favorite manga.

Any recs for realistic MMA/BJJ fighting like All-Rounder Meguru?

I don't care for any other martial arts styles.

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because it is worth it. Also is has some great art later on. The artist really improves as it goes on.

Going to give it another try, but outside of Dokgo and the preques, what else is completed?

Read Teppu.

Is their any chance of the rest being tl'd in the semi-near future?

What the fuck does this even mean? I only just met you in this thread and I already sincerely wish you die a horrible death.

Slow as fuck

I like Kenichi. It's certainly not realistic, but it's not quite DBZ either.

I read a couple months ago and while it's not bad, I think it's not that great. The last fifth or so in particular really dragged and it all felt rushed and abrupt. I remember reading the last page and saying "Wait, it's done already?"

It seems like you just didn't understand it.

>no mention of my boy rikudou
Sad!

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Eagle should have won don't (you) me

>any of those
>realistic
lol

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Are you the guy who made that Baki>Ashura thread

To kick things off sure, but the main plot point seems to be that the MacGuffin Medicine reacted so well to him in particular that he's basically as strong as his willpower lets him be (which is pretty cliche in itself, but whatever, at least he actually loses fights sometimes)

All-Rounder Meguru is pretty down to earth.

>read shamo because of this thread
>starts with gay rape
Wtf this isn't the kind of fighting I wanted

Don't worry the rape gets less gay as it goes on

You're really a pleb and you wouldn't understand Shamo in a billion cycle of lives and deaths.
All Rounder Meguru is quite accurate. I wondeer how the guy drew all this this fine and this reallistically.

>he doesn't know
youtube.com/watch?v=PTbhJ-zXf0I

>he doesn't own every single volumes in his own language

being an Italian is so good.

Just like in martial arts, you don't start kicking ass, you start with getting your ass kicked. But in this case he got raped, later he does the rape.

Muteba's reveal was great, usually authors do that right when they're introduced instead of when it actually becomes important

How is the grappling in Meguru?
Thats a litmus test of sorts for these stories.

Who let this brainlet in?

>pleb doesn't even realize he's been filtered and outed itt
Pottery

its got some good scrambles and takedowns, as the character is an amateur their is no ground and pound, but Id say it passes the litmus test

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Ref should have called that. It went on for too long.

>Read Teppu

I meant good ones

>I luv da cool kung fu majik! old man walk balance on bamboo and shoot magic out of hand so kol!!
Shut the fuck up Tanaka

he was letting him be a warrior

I understand.
Its sometimes hard to handle great stories.

>mfw waiting until shounen series' are finished so I can just look up lists of the filler episodes later

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the problem I have with all rounder is the fucking rival characters boring ass story, I just want to follow meguru not this donut steel oc

Option 1-M: Realistic tactics/close-quarters, but with magic mixed in
Pic related got a few good fights in that vein, especially once Negi got the crazy lightning shit, but overall it wasn't a fighting series.

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